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May 28, 2021
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@ Miss Lacy | May 29 2021 15:36 utc | 98 with the questions
What are the pissed off Americans going to do?
There will be a new phrase come into the language similar to “going postal” only it will be called “going medical”. People don’t like to see their loved ones abused in this way and karma is a bitch. I am encouraged that this may also provide an opening for the shift to a bio-electric instead of bio-chemical approach to mental health therapy…..I am 18 months out from any negative mental health problems after being diagnosed with TBI, PTSD, Anxiety Disorder, etc.
Your question about ZH is puzzling. They are advertising a premium version and some of their stories want you to pay for that premium service but I just go elsewhere…and so far it has been very few stories. Otherwise the main page and most of the stories (many from other blogs) are available to me without sign in
Posted by: psychohistorian | May 29 2021 16:45 utc | 101
Neocon think tank Atlantic Council says don’t ban bitcoin
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/banning-bitcoin-is-a-bad-idea/
That makes one suspicious whether there was something else behind the cryptocurrencies, such as enabling run on currencies and funding covert activities in other countries.
Posted by: Les | May 29 2021 18:10 utc | 102
I’m going to go out on a limb and predict a victory for Alberto Castillo in Peru’s election June 5, next Saturday.
Full disclosure- I’m wrong quite a bit of the time. I thought Arauz would win in Ecuador.
Here are a few differences between the Ecuador election and Peru’s:
Castillo is indigenous, a classroom teacher with bedrock support among the indigenous majority. As far as I can see there is no Indigenous/woke “third way” to divert and subvert the people. Peru appears more like Bolivia and less like Ecuador.
Verónika Mendoza, a more typical Euro-Peruvian liberal, is actively supporting Castillo which means the upper middle class and the Yuppie wannabes have no role models to follow into neo-liberal/neo-fascist land.
Castillo is very plain spoken and has a spine: he doesn’t back down or sugar coat his positions. He’s catholic. He’s a socialist/public sector supporter and proud of it. He has a record as a union leader and lead a big strike and won. He’s also close with Bolivia’s MAS and Morales. If he and his Peru Libre party win watch for another bit exodus of spoiled rich latinos moving to Miami. again.
https://orinocotribune.com/peru-a-teacher-to-the-presidency/
Posted by: migueljose | May 29 2021 19:13 utc | 103
A bit more information to share from Canada:
On Sunday, May 30 at 10 AM EST, an exclusive Canadian interview with British PM Boris Johnson will air.
https://twitter.com/RosieBarton/status/1398376482829910017
A clip from the interview has been released in which Johnson comments on the lab leak theory. He says, while keeping an open mind, that from what he’s seen, it’s most likely the virus developed through farming of wild animals, not through a leak from a lab.
Today (Sat, May 29th), Canada’s Foreign Affairs minister talked about Belarus and Gaza.
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thehouse/belarus-lukashenko-protasevich-putin-1.6044213
The audio clip from the radio program is part-ways down the page linked above. First 5 mins Garneau talks about Belarus (and uses the term ‘multilateral’ about 48 times). From 5 min to 9:30, he talks about Gaza. At 9:30 to 11, he talks about when the Canada/US border might open.
From 11 mins to the end of the segment at 19:28, the host talks with an Eastern European expert from the University of Waterloo, Alexander Lanoszka and the chair of the Belarusian Canadian Alliance, Alena Liavonchanka.
**N.B. Canadians — when asked how Canada can help the cause of those seeking the overthrow of Lukashenko, Liavonchanka requests that Canada consider providing asylum for political prisoners from Belarus on an expedited basis.**
Posted by: Bruised Northerner | May 29 2021 19:17 utc | 104
Bolivia’s top nazi, Arturo Murillo, is in jail in Miami for stealing millions in a tear gas deal while he was the top enforcer assasin for semi-white beauty queen fascist Jeanine Añez. It’s a feel good story, to be sure, but also underscores the depth of commitment and organization of Bolivia’s MAS government: they are planning, consolidating and implementing. Bolivia will continue to emerge as a, perhaps the, leader as South America breaks away from colonial bondage. Looks like the fascists are melting.
https://kawsachunnews.com/bolivia-seeks-arturo-murillos-extradition-from-u-s
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2021/05/26/bolivia-former-interior-minister-arturo-murillo-arrested-bribe/
Posted by: migueljose | May 29 2021 19:22 utc | 105
Mr. migueljose | May 29 2021 19:22 utc | 105
The Colonial Bondage, in every single country in South America, was superior to that which followed it.
An Ibero-American Commonwealth, enjoying the political, legal, cultural, religious continuity with Madrid, would have saved millions of lives had the late Napoleon Bonaparte not destroyed Legitimate Authority in Madrid.
All those liberals, trying to carry out the programme of the French Revolution in South America, very clearly failed: the late Simon “Soy-Bonsparte” Bolivar, el martido San Martin, the late great Juarez….
Even the late Bolivar came to admit the necessity of at least a confederation.
Alas, in South America, the progressives are still fighting the Church, the oligarchy, and not yet analyzing the past. Only Catholic intellectuals are willing to look at the post-colonial history and critique it. But not the role of the Church.
Posted by: Fyi | May 29 2021 19:38 utc | 106
Here is an important new book on WW1:
http://honesthistory.net.au/wp/stephens-david-everyman-as-soldier-how-men-in-suits-in-drawing-rooms-conned-the-people-and-their-families-into-fighting-on/
‘The most important parts of this book are Appendix 4 (War Aims and Secret Treaties of Britain and the Entente Powers, 1914-1918) and Appendix 5 (Lost Opportunities for a Negotiated Peace, 1914-1918). Appendix 4 has 35 treaties, of which 20 were ‘secret’ at the time they were made, and just 15 ‘public’. Appendix 5 has 45 entries, the first the day after the war began and the last four months before the Armistice.’
Posted by: Paul | May 29 2021 21:39 utc | 107
I haven ‘t seen Paco post anything today, so I’ll assume no word’s been posted about the last bits of the Putin/Lukashenko conversation transcript. What follows is the context developed by Lukashenko prior to his sharing the documents he brought with Putin; that action closes the transcript:
“[Our GDPs/economies are doing well] But, you know, there are always people who want to add to our problems. You know about them. I will tell you. Given our trustful relationship, I brought along some documents so you can understand what is going on.
“I will say the following on the record, so you can understand what kind of people these are, even though we have discussed many problems in this vein.
“Do you remember a period last year when probably no country saved more of its people than Russia by evacuating them from resorts? It even helped evacuate 200 Belarusians from India. In some places, we did evacuate Russians. Our Belavia Airlines did the job.
“At that time, everything was shut down. Only one airport was open, in Minsk, and we were evacuating our people. They closed everything. And asked Belavia – asked our company, and our company helped them evacuate thousands of people: Swedes, Germans, Poles, Lithuanians (they shut down everything) and Americans. We flew thousands of them to Minsk because it was the only airport open. Then the Americans flew their people out after we brought them there. You cannot imagine how grateful they were late last year and early this year, to us, to the Belavia team, for saving these people.
“Belavia has nothing to do with this case, with this aircraft. What does Belavia have to do with it? There were no Belavia planes there. The company is based at the airport where you and others fly. A foreign plane. The military is accused of forcing it to land. But how is Belavia involved in this? Now they are penalising Belavia. If it had not been for your actions during this time… I saw that Moscow refused to accept aircraft and told them to fly around Belarus. They felt this right away.
“But what exactly is Belavia being punished for? For evacuating thousands of them during the pandemic? This is their true face.
“I will show you some documents. You will understand what is happening and what happened there. This is an attempt to destabilise the situation to the same level as last August.
“Vladimir Putin: The Bolivian President’s plane was once forced to land, the President was escorted out of the plane – and nothing, silence.
“Alexander Lukashenko: Absolutely. And what about the incident with the Russian plane in Turkey? The plane was en route to Syria. It allegedly carried weapons. It was forced to land and was inspected. Nobody yelled about this. Okay, it was inspected. That is your sovereign right.
“Now it is simply clear what our Western friends want from us. What is there to discuss? But there are no heights the Bolsheviks would not have climbed. We will follow suit.” [My Emphasis]
So far, there’s zero news as to what those docs contained; but given Lukashenko’s words, we might assume there’s something deeper they reveal, which is why the West’s “emotional outburst” and immediate attack on Belavia Airline absent all reasoning. And what to make of the first bolded statement? How does the context of the Putin/Biden Summit get changed, or does it? And how will Lukashenko and Putin follow the Bolsheviks?
On a dead end street, two males and one female found murdered inside an apartment and one male victim found outside.
Posted by: vinnieoh | May 28 2021 15:46 utc | 21
Dead end streets can be deadly. One explanation of an aspect of the grim story: why neighbors did not notice gun shots. In bucolic American countryside it is not rare that people shoot to targets for fun and practice. Consider this dictionary entry (web search for “plinking”):
plinking — meaning number 3
NORTH AMERICAN
shoot at (a can, bottle, or similar target).
“we enjoyed idyllic family afternoons plinking cans with a revolver”
Posted by: Piotr Berman | May 30 2021 0:12 utc | 109
Posted by: Fyi | May 29 2021 19:38 utc | 106
FYI You lost me on the South America comments. I’m more of a peon (Irish/German farmer/coal miner people along with years of Mexico) than an intellectual but I think you were basically saying that the Latins need to form a federation between movements within their countries… Here’s what I think: the most effective and successful movements in all America are Cuba, then Bolivia followed by Venezuela and Nicaragua. Cuba and Bolivia amaze me. I truly believe that if I were to move there I would qualify for only the most basic, periferal roles in their systems as they have withstood centuries of imperial boots on their collective necks. Currently I am very impressed with the people of Bolivia and hopeful that Peru will step up. Increased collaboration appears to be growing between Bolivia and Peru (Castillo), Bolivia and Argentina, Bolivia and Ecuador’s indigenous, Bolivia and Mexico (AMLO). I’m not sure about “federations”. Spain and the U.S. are nothing good for them or anyone outside the current borders of their imperial “homeland”. Appreciate your thoughts, if you want to go deeper…
Posted by: migueljose | May 30 2021 0:16 utc | 110
Posted by: m | May 29 2021 8:26 utc | 91
In the case of the original SARS of 2002 the zoonotic origin is a scientifically established fact. Not even the China hawks like Mike Pompeo – let alone the WHO – have ever claimed otherwise. RJPJR doesn`t provide evidence for his claim.
Yes, I heard all about how the zoonotic origin of SARS-CoV-1 was scientifically established — by the same people at Fort Detrick and Porton Down who brought us so many other scientifically established facts (e.g. the poisoning of the Skripals, the chlorine attacks in Syria…).
Yet the WHO brought in the team of seven British military germ warfare experts (from Porton Down), and they ran the show.
You forget/ignore that the U.S. has adamantly denied ever having a germ warfare program since Richard Nixon tried to dismantle it a the beginning of the 1970s.
Yet the quality of the anthrax in the 2001 attacks, as declared by the FBI investigators (and subsequently ignored by the corporate media), to wit ONE TRILLION anthrax-infected spores in a gram of dust (the previous record was several thousand) plus their coating with silicone to make them impervious to static electricity and instantaneously dispersable in the air, attest to years of work by a team of world-class scientists in a state-of-the-art lab.
The official story still has Bruce Ivins cobbling together a lab in his basement and concocting the anthrax there then killing himself, just before he was to be indicted (and had indicated that he’d call as witnesses all this fellow researchers to testify under oath) because he was depressed and haunted by guilt… If you believe that, you’ll believe in clean coal.
Pompeo Magnus in all this? Do you really think he would open this can of worms by claiming that something as fearsome as SARS-CoV-2 came out of the area of research in which the U.S. leads the world?
As for the WHO, it does only what its member states allow it to do, and there is one heavy-weight member state that usually calls the shots, represented there by a “charitable” foundation run by one of the richest (and most egocentric) men in the world.
Posted by: RJPJR | May 30 2021 0:24 utc | 111
@111, if biden pursues this, whilst the msm continues beating the drum…how do you foresee our countering the momentum toward WW3?
Posted by: emersonreturn | May 30 2021 0:59 utc | 112
@ Bruised Northerner | May 29 2021 19:17 utc | 104.. thanks.. i commented on that thread.. cbc comments have been typically closed on those types of topics..
@ RJPJR .. i meant to thank you for your various posts here and elsewhere.. cheers.
Posted by: james | May 30 2021 1:23 utc | 113
The Bandit State’s ‘friends’ exposed many years ago, this article is hard to find on today’s sanitised net;
https://alt.atheism.narkive.com/U0MloGuI/their-beliefs-are-bonkers-but-they-are-at-the-heart-of-power
Meanwhile the Pro-Palestine movement is growing world wide:
https://mondoweiss.net/2021/05/san-francisco-teachers-union-endorses-bds-movement/
https://theimeu.medium.com/life-in-gaza-diary-of-a-survivor-8f8d9d94236b
Here are some real Christians:
https://mondoweiss.net/2021/05/middle-east-christians-denounce-state-sanctioned-violence-in-gaza-and-jerusalem/
Posted by: Paul | May 30 2021 1:57 utc | 114
Full spectrum smear campaign.
fukus have never stopped trying to
‘nail the chicoms’ ever since they
‘lost’ [sic] China to the CCP.
‘Chinese virus’ = fukus FF
Blame on China
A crime most foul
Coming up next…
Kangaroo court in FUK ON ‘uighurs genocide’.
Can we say,
Foregone conclusion ?
—————
PS
Oz bull export is suffering
But its raining BS over there these days.
mAKE way fukus [uk,us].
little bro Oz is on way to the world’s
no 1 BS exporter.
https://citizensparty.org.au/china-haters-run-cover-newscorp-virus-warfare-propaganda-implodes
PS
fukus is clamping down on P & i,
Enjoy yourself while it last.
Posted by: denk | May 30 2021 3:30 utc | 115
What’s Germany cooking up with it’s Namibia Genocide confession?
My guess is that it’s about to tell the Empire’s Fake Christian murderers, liars and bloodsuckers (and its Bosses) to Go Fuck Themselves. The confession isn’t being taken seriously in Namibia because it’s a minuscule (1.2 Billion Euros) ‘compensation package’ and comes with lots of strings attached.
So is it really just a public Reputation-Laundering operation, or is there more to it? And why now, 100 years after the event?
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 30 2021 6:06 utc | 116
@RJPJR | May 30 2021 0:24 utc | 111
Yet the WHO brought in the team of seven British military germ warfare experts (from Porton Down), and they ran the show.
A song from 1979…
by Peter Hammill
Porton Down
Won’t hear a sound at Porton Down
The clear liquids keep their silence
Buried underground at Porton Down
The fast form of the final violence
Quite right to be worried about the proliferation
Of nuclear bombs and power stations
But there’s a deterrent that’s going to
Unearth us yet…
Hurry on round about Porton Down
A quick glimpse of the future warfare
Hidden underground at Porton Down;
Far too frightening to utter what you saw there
They got bacteria to drop us where we stand
They got diseases still unknown to man
They got the virus and a microgram’s enough
To do in a continent
The ultimate madness
Just one shattered test-tube to wipe out the world
It begins with the mustard gas
It proceeds to Hiroshima
The culture moves on –
Now it’s bacterial, truly insane
Porton Down waits to fever the brain
Won’t hear a sound at Porton Down
The clear liquids keep their silence
Buried underground at Porton Down
The fast form of the final violence
Hurry on round about Porton Down
A quick glimpse of the future warfare
Hidden underground at Porton Down
Far too frightening to say what you saw there
No sound at Porton Down
No sound at Porton Down
No sound from Porton Down
No sound
After Porton Down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do5raqQZouQ
Posted by: Norwegian | May 30 2021 6:11 utc | 117
@PJPJR
You keep on repeating the same claims still without providing evidence.
What does for instance Russia have to say about the origin of SARS-1? Did Russian medical experts ever challenge the notion of a natural origin? Why not?
Is Putin part of a USA-UK-China-WHO conspirancy in order to cover up it’s germ warfare origins? Because Wladimir Putin does what Bill Gates tells him?
Posted by: m | May 30 2021 7:14 utc | 119
Thanks John, I did appreciate your video, so I passed it on to a number of people The barflies will enjoy Numuves’ video about the Outlaw Empire’s wars against Toshiba, Alstom and Huawei. How the US dominates Tech | Untold Story
Posted by: John Lilburne | May 28 2021 13:24 utc | 11
Knowledge is no burden.
Posted by: Paul | May 30 2021 10:13 utc | 120
Posted by: Norwegian | May 30 2021 6:11 utc | 117
Thank you Norwegian, I enjoyed the song and the lyrics, cool raw punk from 1979. I passed it on. The lyrics are, of course, still topical today.
Posted by: Paul | May 30 2021 10:54 utc | 121
Posted by: Paul | May 30 2021 10:13 utc | 120
The real problem is most US tech sucks, is inferior, crappified for commercial profit. Otherwise there would be no need for anybody to be compelled to use it.
You can say the same about a lot of things here since we went full-tilt empire. It was not a good choice.
Posted by: Bemildred | May 30 2021 11:44 utc | 122
@Paul | May 30 2021 10:54 utc | 121
You are welcome. The song is from the album PH7 which I bought new in 1980. The Porton Down song and lyrics has stuck with me ever since. Yes it is more relevant than ever, he predicted the current situation 40 years in advance. Peter Hammill and Van der Graaf Generator are long time favourites of mine.
Posted by: Norwegian | May 30 2021 11:51 utc | 123
Apparently the war on Gaza was the first A.I war:
Having relied heavily on machine learning, the Israeli military is calling Operation Guardian of the Walls the first artificial-intelligence war.
“For the first time, artificial intelligence was a key component and power multiplier in fighting the enemy,” an IDF Intelligence Corps senior officer said. “This is a first-of-its-kind campaign for the IDF. We implemented new methods of operation and used technological developments that were a force multiplier for the entire IDF.”
(https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/gaza-news/guardian-of-the-walls-the-first-ai-war-669371)
Having found themselves not intelligent enough to defeat a primitive human enemy they seek assistance from machines.
Yet their machines merely amplify their own propensities: The tendency to murder murder children in greater and greater numbers.
I can’t help thinking that A.I tends to extract and amplify the strongest traits of it’s masters …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 30 2021 11:56 utc | 124
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 30 2021 6:06 utc | 116
The confession isn’t being taken seriously in Namibia because it’s a minuscule (1.2 Billion Euros) ‘compensation package’ and comes with lots of strings attached.
The ‘compensation’ is a bigger insult than the genocide itself.
1.2 Billion for decades of mass murder, that’s about a third of what israel gets in a year from the US alone.
“Your lives are a fraction of the worth of our pet colonists in the middle east. Now Shut Up and forgive us.”
Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 30 2021 12:01 utc | 125
https://www.futuremedicine.com/doi/full/10.2217/fvl-2017-0143
Fairly damning already but it gets worse. Note Ralph Baric as author.
Posted by: oldhippie | May 30 2021 13:44 utc | 126
https://mobile.twitter.com/Greg21143362/status/1398946807351152645
I don’t know how to link directly to relevant post. Scroll down to the journal citation above and read that thread. Actually pretty much everything at that twit feed is relevant. I do not particularly trust the lab notebook extract, you’ll see why if you look. Smoke all over this, there is a fire. This is now 11 hours old, hard to imagine it will be up long.
Posted by: oldhippie | May 30 2021 13:52 utc | 127
@oldhippie | May 30 2021 13:52 utc | 127
Interesting. archive.org now has a copy of that twitter thread.
You couldn’t make it up. Gilead Sciences being involved in the Ft. Detrick coronavirus gene mongering and leaking it to make a handsome profit via their pre-prepared patented vaccine. Only in America.
In a sane world one could rule this out immediately as too farfetched and morally unthinkable.
But, in this world, wasn’t Donald Rumsfeld involved with Gilead somehow?
Posted by: Lurk | May 30 2021 14:26 utc | 128
Amazing
people still do not know what’s sars1
SARS1 revisited…
1997
William Cohen
‘Others are engaging in race specific bio weapon research’
Any ant-imperialist worth his salt should know how to translate this…
fukus are up to its EYEballs in it, at the leading edge/
Ironically Cohen forgot to send a memo to the PNAC crowd…
IN the same year, 1997
PNAC highlighted ‘race specific bio weapon as a useful political tool‘ in its pax murikka manifesto.
Turns out there’s another ‘insider predictive programming’
Less than one year before SARS hit the Chinese mainland aNd its diaspora worldwide…
United States Air Force medical expert Colonel Michael J. Ainscough titled “Next Generation Bioweapons”, which predicted that “the Third World War … will be biological”. Published by the USAF Air War College in April 2002, some seven months before SARS broke out in Guangdong, China, the paper is premised on the need to protect against “biowarfare and bioterrorism”, but includes a chapter that outlines “Six Paths to Enhance Biothreats”. Under the sub-heading “Host-swapping diseases”, Col. Ainscough explains that “When a virus has a primary reservoir in an animal species, but is transmissible to humans, it is called a zoonotic disease.” Noting that deadly diseases including the Ebola haemorrhagic fever and AIDS, among others, are presumed to have had zoonotic origins, he states: “These examples illustrate that manageable infectious agents can be transformed naturally into organisms with markedly increased virulence. … In the laboratory of inspired, determined and well-funded bioterrorists, an animal virus may be genetically modified and developed specifically to infect human populations. Emerging diseases could have serious implications for biological warfare or terrorism applications.”
well funded bioterrorists !
Who might that be, col ?
hehehehehhe
https://citizensparty.org.au/china-haters-run-cover-newscorp-virus-warfare-propaganda-implodes
Race specific bio weapon.
A pic is worth a thousand words,
https://www.cuttingedge.org/SARS_Global_Map3.jpg
—————
COVID [SARS2] is of course a bio attack.
If the NIH did ‘outsource’ gof research of coronavirus to China, a declared enemy, It could only be a set up
As is witnessed by the current intensive campaign to nail the chicoms !
Too obvious,
Manufactured plausible deniability.
‘
Of course this crap came from the WIV, the chicoms have been messing with that stuff since 2015
occam razor !!
An ‘accidental leak’ just at the right time…?
After an avalanche of H5N1, H7N9, swine flu, army worms had already devastated Chinese food supply chain, after the trade blitzkrieg had failed to smash the Chinese hitech network, the virus pop up right at the time of peak migration, the CNY.
Sorry,
tHIS defy the Ian Fleming’s law of probability.
It has gotta ba a fukus FF
Blame on the chicoms.
A crime most foul
Posted by: denk | May 30 2021 14:32 utc | 129
Lurk @ 128
Rumsfeld is Gilead. Full stop.
I read and browse. This needs a dogged investigator. There is motion all over the backfield. Hope someone picks up the ball and runs.
Posted by: oldhippie | May 30 2021 14:42 utc | 130
@ Lurk | May 30 2021 14:26 utc | 128
Board of Directors between 1988 and 2001; CEO from 1997 to 2001. Made a killing on Tamiflu and various HIV-related drugs . . . and, if he still owns his several million dollars’ worth of shares, remdesivir too.
Posted by: corvo | May 30 2021 14:49 utc | 131
https://theduran.com/the-2013-chemical-attack-on-ghouta-it-was-terrorists-not-assad/
A good uptodate summary
Posted by: Jo | May 30 2021 15:37 utc | 132
The other time I told a poster,
[was it oldhippie ?] this guy is ajit singh of grayzone.
Turns out he’s Daniel Dumbril , a canuck
in Shenzheng.
https://dissidentvoice.org/2021/03/the-xinjiang-genocide/
Posted by: denk | May 30 2021 15:41 utc | 133
Posted by: Norwegian | May 30 2021 6:11 utc | 117
A million thanks for the lyrics and the link to the recording!
Posted by: oldhippie | May 30 2021 13:52 utc | 127
The paragraphs in the tweet that you linked to are from:
Timothy P Sheahan & Ralph S BaricPublished Online:21 Feb 2018
https://doi.org/10.2217/fvl-2017-0143
https://www.futuremedicine.com/doi/full/10.2217/fvl-2017-0143
Baric is one of the heavy weights in gain of function work.
And Posted by: denk | May 30 2021 14:32 utc | 129
What you’re showing us is that the basic psychopathic thinking that bought us nuclear arms runs parallel to the psychopathic thinking that has been doing germ warfare work for decades.
Many thanks!
Posted by: r | May 30 2021 15:44 utc | 134
Regarding Posted by: r | May 30 2021 15:44 utc | 134
That was supposed to signed RJPJR. It ran away from me.
Posted by: RJPJR | May 30 2021 15:46 utc | 135
@ Norwegian | May 30 2021 6:11 utc | 117.. great track.. thanks! i used to listen to Van der Graaf Generator but didn’t know it was peter hammill behind the band..
Posted by: james | May 30 2021 16:18 utc | 136
Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 30 2021 12:01 utc | 125
(Germany’s Namibia confession)
Agreed.
This is the sort of parsimonious, half-assed stunt which should have been done quietly on the side-lines. However, German FM Heiko Maas(?) stepped up to a wired-for-sound lectern to make a grovelling apology.
As it stands this cheap trick is shameful which is why I suspect that it’s just the opening gambit in a MUCH bigger game…
(I hope Bibi is pretending it didn’t happen)
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 30 2021 16:26 utc | 137
rjpjr 135
‘ the psychopathic thinking that has been doing germ warfare work for decades.’
Thanks for your comments. !
YOu might be interested in the following.
I just cant help posting it again and
again.
Behind every pandemic lurks a gawd damned fukus gof program.
fukus weaponisation of H5N1, H7N9, both have hit Chinese multiple times.
The perps even publicised their recipe
!!!
This planet has already achieved a delicate balance between all species, long before we arrived. But the self-deluded geniuses wanted more excitement to the show. There is a conspiracy to spread the flu virus at the widest coverage possible, and it’s not just a theory.
The scientists themselves who were conducting the specific research on how they made H7N9 virus increase its rate of human transmissions are already publicizing it.
https://eclinik.net/heres-the-proof-flu-virus-was-deliberately-weaponized-for-widest-transmission/
Posted by: denk | May 30 2021 16:52 utc | 138
Lurk, Denk, corvo, RJPJR
Now that we are finally approaching this on the right track it becomes clear that for a year and a half a significant number of well informed observers have known plainly what happened.
Saw a piece from Thomas Borody yesterday in which he talked about how he treated peptic ulcers with 100% success for twenty-six years before his work was acknowledged. And that was without armies of PR flacks laboring to bury the story. Of course now he is treating his covid patients with ivermectin, also with 100% success, and his work again mostly disappears.
Posted by: Oldhippie | May 30 2021 17:20 utc | 139
I posted a comment above noting that an interview with British PM Boris Johnson (exclusive Canadian interview) aired today. Segments from that interview are being posted at @CBCPolitics (I missed it on TV earlier) and I’ve watched them.
A couple thoughts: the way BoJo talks about the G7 and Covid, complete with ‘Tower of Babel’ reference, I get the impression that the G7 has morphed into a forum for UK/US rivalry. And BoJo seemed to me to be a bit… smug. Make of that what you will!
In his comments about the UK/Canada Free Trade agreement, I thought he changed his tone. Mr. Johnson, you did not fool me with your cute-sy story of purchasing Canadian made bicycles while mayor of London. To me, he appeared to harden, and I suspect (if you can believe this) that the UK is attempting to create an agreement that is not in Canada’s best, if any, interests. Oh boy. Let’s see what leaks out, post-interview.
Posted by: Bruised Northerner | May 30 2021 17:33 utc | 140
(This is such a good idea, I wish I’d thought of it, but here’s to the age of instant communication!!)
Re: comment @140
We (Canada) need a Free Trade agreement with Moscow.
Let’s do this, Canada!!
Posted by: Bruised Northerner | May 30 2021 17:58 utc | 141
I got a bit over-enthusiastic and posted that above comment without much explanation.
Of course it is in every nation’s interest to have a Free Trade agreement with Moscow!
What is being suggested, I think, is to counter possible British aggression by offering equal access to Moscow. (Can’t argue with geography. Russia’s right next door, have to cooperate with them. National security and all that.) Let’s say, purely hypothetically, the UK might wish to involve banking regulation in the free trade agreement. Then Canada (who’s not powerful enough to say no), would say, yeah-sure, but so long as Moscow has the same arrangement. Historically, this type of situation can resolve itself by all involved agreeing that maybe Canada should just make its own regulations on banking, with the usual geo-political reality of needing to satisfy those countries more powerful than it.
Posted by: Bruised Northerner | May 30 2021 18:22 utc | 142
@Oldhippie | May 30 2021 17:20 utc | 139
You say Thomas Borody, I say Ignaz Semmelweis
Despite various publications of results where hand washing reduced mortality to below 1%, Semmelweis’s observations conflicted with the established scientific and medical opinions of the time and his ideas were rejected by the medical community. He could offer no acceptable scientific explanation for his findings, and some doctors were offended at the suggestion that they should wash their hands and mocked him for it. In 1865, the increasingly outspoken Semmelweis supposedly suffered a nervous breakdown and was committed to an asylum by his colleagues. In the asylum he was beaten by the guards. He died 14 days later, from a gangrenous wound on his right hand that may have been caused by the beating. Semmelweis’s practice earned widespread acceptance only years after his death, when Louis Pasteur confirmed the germ theory, and Joseph Lister, acting on the French microbiologist’s research, practised and operated using hygienic methods, with great success.
I have been pointing at EVALI and Ft. Detrick for over a year, and so has RJPJR (just yesterday found a post by him on MoA dating back to feb or mar 2020). B has been deleting my posts when I speculate about these matters, but perhaps the reality is starting to break, even to him now, since he has left my latest one in the most recent corona thread untouched:
The highly underreported or even suppressed facts seem to indicate that the coronavirus was making the rounds in many places worldwide before the Chinese reported its appearance in Wuhan.
At the time when the Chinese started seeing cases, more than 1% of blood donors in a USA sample tested positive for antibodies against sars-cov-2. In the preceding 6 months, mysteriously misdirecting EVALI and “a bad flu season” had caused many deaths in the USA.
These circumstances make me conclude that the new coronavirus most likely first emerged in the USA.
On several earlier threads I have speculated that the US government has seeded the new coronavirus in Wuhan with several possible objectives. Alas, b has for some reason memoryholed all these posts.
The motivations for the USA’s hypothetical stealth spreading are clear. Obviously it has been attempting to shift the public blame to China, both for internal and external consumption. The response of the home voters to the truth about the virus’ origins could severely destabilize the USA political scene. Internationally the diplomatic lashback would severely damage the USA’s leverage in international matters.
And imagine if the coronavirus emergence in the USA had been truthfully reported in early 2019. Soon, the USA would have been cordonned off by the entire world. Just think about the effects of an international quarantaine against the USA. What about all those military bases the USA has sprawled around the world?
Obviously, if sars-cov-2 escaped from Ft Detrick, the USA military and government have been motivated to act precicely the way they have acted. I see no failure to repond, but a precisely executed mitigation operation. Even Donald J Trump played his role as the fumbling bumbler convincingly.
Posted by: Lurk | May 30 2021 10:06 utc | 255
Of course, reality is always more bizarre than we can imagine (viz the speculations about Gilead Sciences involvement.)
Posted by: Lurk | May 30 2021 18:51 utc | 143
Lurk @ 143
With you on all of that. I had been reading a little of this here and there and mostly mentally filing it together with Mike Adams and controlled opposition disinfo. It is plain hard to get started with a story when there are concerted efforts to bury it. Hard to read technical medical and harder still to spot who is blowing smoke with jargon.
I do remember being struck early by the Wuhan military games. There was a 50-something lady on the cycling team (I know cycling) who had retired from competition years ago. Wasn’t much then. In comeback training she was DNF and last place. Even in piddly local races she was wholly uncompetitive. And fell. Not who you send to compete if you want to win. Not even who you send on a junket as a reward for long service, falling on your face is not rewarding. Reward her by making her a pretend coach. Also had a military sinecure as a diplomatic driver. Someone they trusted. No obvious reason for her to be there except skulduggery. When attention was drawn to her the press was a bit too quick with the misogyny and conspiracy theory routine.
Rumsfeld was G D Searle, which merged with Gilead. Rumsfeld was the one who got aspartame approved when the FDA initially, and correctly, would not even allow human testing on such obvious poison. Aspartame is not precisely mass murder. Mass developmental disorders for children and shortened lifespans in ill health for adults. Rumsfeld would never be the one to quietly collect a stipend for a directors seat. He’s top dog or he knifes you in the back.
Posted by: Oldhippie | May 30 2021 20:56 utc | 144
Oldhippie | May 30 2021 20:56 utc | 144
On behalf of many other readers I thank you for the rundown on Donald Rumsfeld, because I already knew “Rummy” and his antics and associations.
I was never surprized on sept 11 2001, really. Admittedly I had been rather shocked to see Bush the lesser being appointed in 2000, watching all the evildoers from poppy’s days openly marching back into Mordor’s nexus of power (not that the Clintons ever were a real discontinuity of government). The ensuing events were only a logical corollary.
But thanks a lot for pointing to the Gilead Sciences link to the coronavirus skullduggery. I didn’t know about that one yet. In hindsight everything always makes more sense.
Posted by: Lurk | May 30 2021 21:48 utc | 145