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May 12, 2021
Open Thread 2021-036
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One cent at a time: The decline of the U.S. dollar I wonder if Hezbollah and Iran are going to step up to the plate and defend Palestine from slaughter. The IDF is razing neighborhoods and snuffing Hamas leadership, while hundreds of rockets causing little damage are indeed David to Goliath. Posted by: gottlieb | May 12 2021 16:01 utc | 2 “Palestine is not the original home of the jews. It was acquired by them after a ruthless conquest, and they have never occupied the whole of it, which they now openly demand. They have no more claim to Palestine than the descendants of the ancient Romans have to this country. The Romans occupied England as long as the Israelites occupied Palestine, and they left behind them in this country far more valuable and useful work. Posted by: Paul | May 12 2021 16:08 utc | 3 Does anyone know what was burning atop Temple Mount? Have seen notes that it was Al-Aqsa or Dome of the Rock. Or both. Seen burning at night in clip Paul posted at end of previous thread. It is daylight now and surely the site and the damage are visible. Posted by: or | May 12 2021 16:19 utc | 4 re: US inflation Posted by: ptb | May 12 2021 16:19 utc | 5 g@2…if you’ve read/listened to or watched any of nasurallah’s speeches you’d know hezbollah has been & is there for palestine. ditto iran, yemen, syria, the axis of resistance. leading from behind are undoubtedly russia & china. i’m sure you recall 2wks past lavrov met with palestinian leaders. today putin & erdogan chatted about a 2 part state. so, we have ukraine, china seas, israel, afghanistan, myanmar…all ready set to go…the world is on the brink. how do we find our way through this avoiding nuclear devastation to peace, harmony & goodwill? putin, xi, hezbollah & iran have their work cut out for them, while bliken & nod, nutty, bojo & the eu all preach exceptional rules based order. Posted by: emersonreturn | May 12 2021 16:30 utc | 6 em @ 6 … Yes to all that, including your 64k question – how do we find our way through this avoiding nuclear devastation? That is the question as human ingenuity is only matched by its hubris. Posted by: gottlieb | May 12 2021 16:41 utc | 7 Is the motive for the slaughter now taking place in Palestine designed to keep Netanyahu in office, Posted by: librul | May 12 2021 16:43 utc | 8 @ 3 paul… thanks for the quote… stopped for a break 1/3rd thru the book.. reading another h.g. wells book at the moment! Posted by: james | May 12 2021 16:49 utc | 9 @ 8 librul… window number 3, but maybe the other 2 get covered in this as well.. Posted by: james | May 12 2021 16:50 utc | 10 @4 Tree burning…..Jews celebrating something….. take your pick. Posted by: dh | May 12 2021 16:52 utc | 11 i don’t do links, sorry…but pepe has a must read post on SC. sets very like michael hudson does the money trail, the deep state & murika’s footprints in the snow. Posted by: emersonreturn | May 12 2021 17:13 utc | 12 Finally, the Third Intifada. Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 12 2021 17:37 utc | 13 Posted by: emersonreturn | May 12 2021 17:13 utc | 12 Posted by: Bemildred | May 12 2021 17:40 utc | 14
gottlieb | May 12 2021 16:01 utc | 2: Posted by: Ian2 | May 12 2021 17:44 utc | 15 gottlieb @ 7 responds to em @ 6 … Yes to all that, including your 64k question – how do we find our way through this avoiding nuclear devastation? That is the question as human ingenuity is only matched by its hubris. Posted by: snake | May 12 2021 17:54 utc | 16 the razing of Gaza the IAF demolition of apartment buildings is old school retribution. It has no military value. What ‘infrastructure’ does Hamas have in these buildings. The Israeli modus operandi is … if you damage something of mine, I will inflict 1,000 times more destruction on you. I cannot stand that FOX is trotting out the same idiotic talking points and ranting about ‘the squad’. Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | May 12 2021 18:12 utc | 17 @ Christian J. Chuba (18) Posted by: MarkU | May 12 2021 18:44 utc | 18 Latin America update: Posted by: migueljose | May 12 2021 18:48 utc | 19 “Inflation” in the US is mostly profit-taking and speculation (scalping)… Posted by: paulmeli | May 12 2021 18:50 utc | 20 First the French generals sent warning letters to Macron.
Posted by: Norwegian | May 12 2021 18:51 utc | 21 Just dipping through. Posted by: Skeletor | May 12 2021 19:08 utc | 22 Henry Kissinger is just a globalists high management representative, most likely for the Global Financial Syndicate. His realpolitik is just doublespeak. This syndicate knows that it will be the biggest loser from a world war and lose what it has accomplished over the last few centuries. So now it wants to buy time by proposing dialogue and then will strike its opponents (China & Russia) with a surprise. It ain’t happening. Posted by: Max | May 12 2021 19:11 utc | 23 I read Escobars las two pieces, which are very interesting, informative and confirm from the horse’s mouth what is aleady clear, and known. Posted by: JB | May 12 2021 19:17 utc | 24 @Skeletor | May 12 2021 19:08 utc | 23 Posted by: Norwegian | May 12 2021 19:28 utc | 25 I dunno, after the Texas power cuts, the pipeline leaks, we now see a major bridge cracking up. Posted by: Stonebird | May 12 2021 19:34 utc | 26 “The true equation is ‘democracy’ = government by world financiers.” Posted by: Max | May 12 2021 19:39 utc | 27 james | May 12 2021 16:49 utc | 9 Posted by: EoinW | May 12 2021 19:43 utc | 28 To Posted by: MarkU on vaccine research, I’m all for cultivating and looking at dangerous virus’ Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | May 12 2021 19:43 utc | 29 @ Stonebird | May 12 2021 19:34 utc | 27 who wrote Posted by: psychohistorian | May 12 2021 19:44 utc | 30 @Norwegian | May 12 2021 19:28 utc | 26 Posted by: DG | May 12 2021 19:46 utc | 31 gottlieb | May 12 2021 16:01 utc | 2 Posted by: EoinW | May 12 2021 19:48 utc | 32 Re: Gottlieb Posted by: Andrew Ho | May 12 2021 19:54 utc | 33 james | May 12 2021 16:49 utc | 9 Posted by: DG | May 12 2021 19:55 utc | 34 Norwegian @May12 18:51 #22
Is this leading to Civil War (as some believe) or simply a controlled demolition of democracy? Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 12 2021 20:03 utc | 35 Craig Murray’s conviction and now prison sentence based on the dubious legal theory of “jigsaw identification” stands as yet another ignominious marker in the collapse of Anglo-Saxon judicial norms, otherwise exemplified by the ongoing persecution of Julian Assange. Murray’s “crime” was to recognize a lawfare stitch-up designed to circumvent the practice of politics in Scotland Posted by: jayc | May 12 2021 20:07 utc | 36 for everyone’s edification Posted by: michaelj72 | May 12 2021 20:10 utc | 37 @ 31 psychohistorian Posted by: Max | May 12 2021 20:11 utc | 38 Christian J. Chuba @30 Posted by: William Gruff | May 12 2021 20:12 utc | 39 who can sort out the internal bickering oil vs pharma” .. in 9 Eastern states there ain’t no gas .. in Gaza a high rise apt building collapsed after being attacked? Afghanistan and Iraq want to be left alone? Dones attacked Israel? Ansarallah advances in Yemen.. Nordstream II nears completion, Assad stays in power, China is moving forward on its transportation and develop the middle east project. Russia is dodging “you did it” bullets. Erdergodan is dressing his Turkey. Posted by: snake | May 12 2021 20:15 utc | 40 @ EoinW | May 12 2021 19:43 utc | 29.. i call them freaks because they hijack every thread… going on memory, i think you have done the same…. it seems some folks here don’t give a fuck what the content of the thread is about because on their covid fanaticism… now.. i would like to be wrong, so feel free to tell me i have it wrong.. thanks.. Posted by: james | May 12 2021 20:18 utc | 41 Andrew Ho @May12 19:54 #35 IMO this is Hasbara nonsense. Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 12 2021 20:18 utc | 42 @ 36 dg… you’re right.. you rarely comment here, but i noticed your covid comment on the previous thread… see my meaning of freaks in the above comment.. Posted by: james | May 12 2021 20:19 utc | 43 @Posted by: Max | May 12 2021 19:39 utc | 28 Posted by: librul | May 12 2021 20:25 utc | 44
Forgive him, oh illuminated Western experts, for he’s just a Russian, he doesn’t know what he’s doing. He’s oblivious to the True Way of the Light, the Design of the Lord, of the great God Capitalism. psychohistorian | May 12 2021 19:44 utc | 31 Posted by: Stonebird | May 12 2021 20:56 utc | 46 @DG | May 12 2021 19:55 utc | 36 Posted by: Norwegian | May 12 2021 21:04 utc | 47 At this point the timing of these outbursts between the IDF and Palestine is comically obvious.
Palestinians protest or demand justice.
Repeat similar cycle next time NetanYahoo’s power (and freedom?) is in imminent jeopardy. Posted by: K_C_ | May 12 2021 21:07 utc | 48 wtf? isnt it called open thread?? Posted by: Mina | May 12 2021 21:08 utc | 49 Hm, nobody noticing that Craig Murray was sentenced to 8 month prison? Posted by: Cemi | May 12 2021 21:13 utc | 50
There has never actually been democracy in the USSA unless one falls into a small category of contemporaneous elites.
Maybe when Israel’s illegal razing of Albuquerque draws national attention, people in the USSA will begin to care. That said, I kinda doubt it given the demographics of Albuquerque proper. Posted by: K_C_ | May 12 2021 21:14 utc | 51 @46 librul Posted by: Max | May 12 2021 21:19 utc | 52 James, numerous posts on all threads. Posted by: CarlD | May 12 2021 21:25 utc | 53
In my own work I extend that idea to a circle of control and authority. In the US the people would appoint and have oversight over the supreme court for example. Posted by: David G Horsman | May 12 2021 21:26 utc | 54 @ carld…. it is an open thread and if you read my post @9 i said so too… i get tired of the covid discussion on all the other threads… it is nothing about being insecure either… i get tired of seeing all threads taken up by the covid junkies… have at it here, but leave it off the other threads.. thanks.. Posted by: james | May 12 2021 21:30 utc | 55 Past behaviour is a prediction of future behaviour: Posted by: Paul | May 12 2021 21:32 utc | 56 b, Posted by: CarlD | May 12 2021 21:37 utc | 57 K_C_ @May12 21:14 #52 Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 12 2021 21:48 utc | 59 Where do you find *real* journalists – prison. Posted by: librul | May 12 2021 22:01 utc | 60 @58 Posted by: librul | May 12 2021 22:04 utc | 61 Rhythm fan and practitioners Posted by: Featherless | May 12 2021 22:05 utc | 62 Irish MP who should win a hero award to speak unvarnished truth. Ireland, one of the few countries left in the world that you can criticize Israel and their atrocities without fear of retribution. This MP has my respect and adoration. Posted by: Alpi | May 12 2021 22:22 utc | 64 Bridge in the USA was literally falling: In my youth I worked as a very junior financial reporter and I have a continuing interest. While markets are crashing around the world there is a commodities boom, particularly in copper and critical minerals needed for green energy like cobalt, manganese, tin and rare earths. Posted by: Paul | May 12 2021 22:35 utc | 66 I used to check in at this site. It seems to have lost its mojo – like the Liverpool football team – from brilliance to well not so good. Could it be anything to do with a certain type of German? Very brilliant and intense but suddenly loses it? I really don’t know but I feel sure that huge brain james will help me out here… Posted by: Molinos | May 12 2021 22:51 utc | 67 Thank you, james, for the beautiful choral piece you provided on the previous thread, and also for your link @ 9 to the Michael Hudson piece I commented on there. Here’s a segment of my comment: Posted by: juliania | May 12 2021 23:05 utc | 68 Moon of Alabama? Posted by: Duncan Idaho | May 12 2021 23:27 utc | 69 james | May 12 2021 21:30 utc | 56 Posted by: EoinW | May 12 2021 23:34 utc | 70 thanks featherless and juliania.. juliania – i did see your thoughtful post on the thread you mentioned.. thanks.. Posted by: james | May 12 2021 23:54 utc | 71 @Skeletor Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | May 13 2021 0:13 utc | 72 “IDF Soldier Recounts Harrowing, Heroic War Story Of Killing 8-Month-Old Child” Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | May 13 2021 0:34 utc | 73 Posted by: Norwegian | May 12 2021 19:28 utc | 26 Posted by: wideshut | May 13 2021 0:36 utc | 74 An interesting read from Pepe Escobar at Saker’s site, related to the comments by Max @24 and JB @25: Posted by: Canadian Cents | May 13 2021 0:38 utc | 75 @76 Canadian Cents Posted by: ptb | May 13 2021 1:00 utc | 76 While several people have commented on the recent sentencing of Craig Murray to eight months in prison for having courageously carried out his journalistic obligations to the public concerning the political frame-up of Salmon, the frame-up having been designed to sordidly hide behind safety procedures protecting victims of sexual assault, I have not yet read anyone mention, significantly, that Murray was also told to surrender his passport. This effectively prevents him from giving evidence in a critical trial in Spain re the violation of Assange’s right to privacy which he had been on for.
Posted by: suzan | May 13 2021 1:10 utc | 77 In my relatively few recent years here at MoA, I have seen countless threads take on off-topic parallel discussions about countless other topics, not simply Covid. Posted by: Grieved | May 13 2021 1:17 utc | 78 William Gruff #41 Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 13 2021 1:19 utc | 79 @ EoinW | May 12 2021 19:43 utc | 29.. i call them freaks because they hijack every thread… going on memory, i think you have done the same…. it seems some folks here don’t give a fuck what the content of the thread is about because on their covid fanaticism… now.. i would like to be wrong, so feel free to tell me i have it wrong.. thanks.. Posted by: Madison James | May 13 2021 1:21 utc | 80 @78 suzan Posted by: Grieved | May 13 2021 1:23 utc | 81 @ 79 grieved.. thanks… i said nothing on the previous thread… i brought it up here on an ‘open thread’… but remember i am not the bright light bulb like @molinos who brings so much mojo to this site, lol… or how about @ wideshut who is quotable – “If you had any brains and self respect you would not be here.” ( like widehut, lolol).. i am in a pissy mood and i really don’t care if no one likes what i am saying… you grieved are right to say what you say and that was my reason for bringing it up here.. if some don’t like it – tough.. Posted by: james | May 13 2021 1:24 utc | 82 @ madison… thanks madison… obvious you know me really well! another freak who is incapable of reading what i said.. Posted by: james | May 13 2021 1:25 utc | 83 i guess someone rang the dinner bell over at off-g or whatever… Posted by: james | May 13 2021 1:27 utc | 84 wideshut #75
Sometimes the speakeasy needs to be a tad politic to keep the doors open. Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 13 2021 1:32 utc | 85 “seeing is believing all the world over.” – Plautus Posted by: michaelj72 | May 13 2021 1:39 utc | 86 Featherless at 63: Posted by: Absurdio | May 13 2021 1:43 utc | 87 re:craigmurray & all those posting that he’s facing 8yrs…craig on his website has said 8mos. while i have sent money & encourage all to as well…craig deserves help & support…i am questioning where the confusion/discrepancy is originating. please, i’d love to know, as i wish craig all the best, as well as all his supporters. Posted by: emersonreturn | May 13 2021 2:14 utc | 88 Absurdio @88: Posted by: corvo | May 13 2021 2:24 utc | 89 Thank you Absurdio and James, for the notion of « Beats being in little packages of 2 and 3 ». That REALLY caught my ear. Could you tell me more please ? Posted by: RuPaul Simon LeGree | May 13 2021 2:40 utc | 90 Biswapriya Purkayast @73: Posted by: corvo | May 13 2021 2:41 utc | 91 letter calling on the State Department to immediately condemn these heinous actions by the Israeli government against Palestinian families in East Jerusalem Twenty-five House Democrats have signed onto a letter calling on US Secretary of State Antony Blinken to condemn the looming evictions of Palestinian families in Sheikh Jarrah. The letter was co-sponsored by Illinois Rep. Marie Newman and Michigan Rep. Mark Pocan. It gained the signatures of Reps. Pramila Jayapal, Betty McCollum, Rashida Tlaib, Raul Grijalva, Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Andre Carson, Jesus “Chuy” Garcia, Cori Bush, Judy Chu, Ayanna Pressley, Bobby Rush, Eddie Bernice Johnson, Gerald Connolly, Jared Huffman, Peter Welch, Judy Chu, Alan Lowenthal, Veronica Escobar, Jackie Speier, Anna Eshoo, Chellie Pingree, Debbie Dingell and Hank Johnson https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/25-house-democrats-call-on-blinken-to-condemn-sheikh-jarrah-evictions/ Posted by: Djazaïr | May 13 2021 2:47 utc | 92 another freak who is incapable of reading what i said.. Posted by: Madison James | May 13 2021 3:06 utc | 93 People who write about music in Rolling Stone etc, have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to music theory. Posted by: Ruben | May 13 2021 3:14 utc | 94 @92 corvo Posted by: Grieved | May 13 2021 3:16 utc | 95 For those of us who don’t know anything about music, perhaps those of you who say you know something better than others do would stop attacking those others with ad hominem comments, and instead educate us with some lucid teaching? Posted by: Grieved | May 13 2021 3:25 utc | 96 Canadian Cents #76
Methinks Mr S reveals the deep state as a narrow minded dunderhead and if he is a high order functionary in the deep state of the USA and is losing the battle to inferior minds at every decision then perhaps that explains why we are seeing debacle after debacle as these muscleheads can’t think. Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 13 2021 3:29 utc | 97 Grieved #82
Thank you, YES, the englander courts are lower than a black snakes belly. SICK CRUELTY has always been their hallmark. Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 13 2021 3:49 utc | 98 It’s quite simple, China and USA simply used each other during the Cold War. Posted by: Smith | May 13 2021 4:00 utc | 99 @wideshut | May 13 2021 0:36 utc | 75
Thanks for being open and clear-cut about your goals. Posted by: Norwegian | May 13 2021 4:44 utc | 100 |
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