Escalation In Palestine - Hizbullah Is Ready To Join The Fight
The current war the occupiers of Palestine wage on the indigenous population has some unusual features.
While the conflict was, without doubt, started by the colonial occupiers the course of the recent escalation seems to be managed by the resistance side. It may well be part of a larger plan.
The Israeli army had for some time planned a large scale 30-days long maneuver to rehearse an attack on Hezbullah in Lebanon. Last week Hizbullah reacted to that:
The Lebanon-based Hezbollah terror organization has announced it is on high alert following the IDF’s launching of its largest-ever military exercise.The IDF launched on Sunday its “Chariots of Fire” month-long exercise simulating war on several fronts, and primarily against Hezbollah in the north, including the massive firing of missiles and rockets from all arenas on the home front.
This is the largest and most comprehensive IDF maneuver in its history...
The maneuver had been announced for some time. Hizbullah has feared that the maneuver was a deception for a planned Israeli assault on Lebanon. It came at an interesting moment.
The International Day of Al-Quds (Jerusalem) was inaugurated by Imam Khomeini in 1979, the year of the triumph of the Islamic Revolution in Iran, to revive the Palestinian cause, and is celebrated on the last Friday of the month of Ramadan.
The last Friday of Ramadan was May 7. On May 5 the Secretary General of Hizbullah Hassan Nasrallah gave his yearly Al-Quds day speech:
[O]ur responsibility for Al-Quds Day is to provide all possible help to the Palestinian people, to the Palestinian Resistance; the Axis of Resistance must be even more united and attached to the cause, and it already is, it must increase its readiness (for the final war), it must strengthen itself further, because it is the Axis of Resistance that will shape the future of the Middle East.
If we follow the development of the current phase of the conflict in Palestine those words may getting a deeper meaning:
Al-Aqsa Mosque, one of the three holiest sites in Islam, has long been an emblem of Palestinian resistance to Israeli occupation.Al-Haram al-Sharif (the Noble Sanctuary), the complex in Jerusalem’s Old City that houses the mosque - which includes the Dome of the Rock and other Islamic shrines - is arguably the most significant symbol of Palestinian sovereignty.
Jerusalem has been on edge for weeks over Israel's restrictions on Palestinian access to parts of the Old City during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, and Israeli authorities' attempted eviction of several Palestinian families in the Sheikh Jarrah neighbourhood to make way for Israeli settlers.
Al-Aqsa found itself at the centre of a long weekend of violence from Friday, that left hundreds of people injured and led to a series of deadly rocket exchanges between the Israel military and Hamas in Gaza.
By Tuesday night, Israeli security forces had raided the holy site four times in five days.
On Friday May 7, Al-Quds day, the first protests at Al-Aqsa against the stealing of the houses in Sheikh Jarrah happened. They were also against the year's 'Death to Arabs' Flag March by ultra-zionist settlers through east Jerusalem which had been planned for Sunday May 9.
The settler march was called off but the protests and the raids on Al-Aqsa continued. By Monday night Israel security forces had stormed Al-Aqsa three times. According to the Palestinian Red Cross 305 Palestinians were injured and 228 others hospitalized including four in a critical condition.
On Monday the Israel military called off its “Chariots of Fire” exercise in the north to concentrate on a possible escalation of violence in Jerusalem.
That was the point where the resistance in the Gaza strip joined the conflict by launching missiles on Israeli settlements.
The move was not necessary. Gaza voluntarily entered the conflict. Presumably the resistance leadership in Gaza believes that it has the capabilities and backing to sustain a new round of fighting. Since then some 2,000 missiles were fired against Israeli targets as far away from Gaza as Tel Aviv, some 230 kilometers north of Gaza. This is a much greater range than previous missiles fired from Gaza have had. Only some 10-20% of the missiles fired reach their target. Some are caught by Israel's missiles defense but many of the locally produced weapons are not precise enough or simply fail. Still - the psychological effect on the colonial population is severe.
Israel immediately began to wage an air war on Gaza. As in previous rounds of the conflict it targeted the media, the police and civil infrastructure. These strikes are war crimes. They were accompanied by an assassination campaign against presumed resistance leaders.
On Monday May 10 another front opened up as anti-Jewish protests happened in Lod. Shops were damaged and cars set on fire. The next two night anti-Arab pogroms and anti-Jewish rioting escalated:
Israel on Wednesday experienced its worst night of internal Jewish-Arab chaos for many years, amid the ongoing armed conflict with Gaza, as scenes of unrest, rioting, hate rallies and growing social chaos spread throughout numerous cities, some of which were once seen as symbols of coexistence.Violent confrontations erupted in Lod, Acre, Jerusalem, Haifa, Bat Yam, Tiberias and many other locations, with people injured, some of them seriously, leading Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to announce he was looking at deploying the military inside towns to restore order.
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Jewish mobs were seen roaming the streets of Tiberias and Haifa looking for Arabs to assault.In Jerusalem, an Arab was stabbed by Jews and seriously injured at the Mahane Yehuda market.
“Death to Arabs” was heard in many locations of Jewish rallies.
Meanwhile, in Acre, a Jewish man was assaulted by Arab rioters and hit with rocks and iron bars, and was hospitalized in critical condition.
Arab rioting was reported in Jerusalem, Lod, Haifa, Tamra and elsewhere.
The Israeli military has called up reserves and moved forces down south to the boarder with Gaza. Today the Gaza resistance used for the first time suicide drones against Israeli missile defenses. Israeli troop concentrations around Gaza will have to fear that new weapon.
The Israeli government under still Prime Minister Netanyahoo is now threatening a ground invasion of Gaza. But ground assaults always cause casualties within the attacking forces, something the Israelis are usually keen to avoid. It will take more missiles fired from Gaza to goad Netanyahoo into launching such an attack.
Despite the Israeli and Egyptian blockade of the Gaza strip the resistance forces there seems to be well supplied. They may well have more capabilities than is currently assumed.
With unrest in Jerusalem, pogroms in Israeli cities, a potential third intifada in the occupied West Bank and a ground invasion of Gaza the Israeli army will be very busy. If it comes to that during the next few days the time could be right for Hizbullah, already on full alarm, to step in and to attack the occupation on the grounds that it is holding.
Nasrallah's speech last week can be understood as an announcement of such a step:
My last message will be for the Israelis themselves. I tell them this: you know well, in your heart of hearts, whether it is based on your religious texts or doctrines, on your books or your prophecies, and also based on what some of your leaders and experts say, and also some of your religious authorities, you know (very well) that this entity (Israel) has no future, that it is on the verge of extinction and that it has little time left to live, very little time. Therefore, in this battle you are wasting your energy, and your young people are wasting their youth and their blood, in vain and to no avail.
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We believe in this near future (where Israel won’t exist anymore), we believe in it very firmly, and this faith is not based only on religious and ideological bases, but is based (above all) on the data, on the events which occur, especially on those of the last decades, the last years and on what will happen (soon) in this region.
It is possible that Netanyahoo had planned the original escalation in Jerusalem to stay in office:
After four elections Israel still has no new government. Prime Minister Netanyahoo is on trial for corruption. A larger war that can be spun into a victory could help him to avoid a judgment and gain votes for the likely soon coming next election.
It that was his plan he has achieved a first step towards it:
Yamina party leader Naftali Bennett has taken “off the table” the option of forming a government without Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud, due to the ongoing military conflict with Gaza terrorists, a political source says.Bennett has renewed his negotiations with Likud due to the emergency situation, and teams from both parties met today, the source says on condition of anonymity.
But it is not Netanyahoo who can decide when the missiles from Gaza will stop flying. It is not Netanyahoo who can control the Palestinian youth. The escalation dominance is not in his hands but in the hands of the resistance. It is the resistance that decides when the conflict ends.
Ali @allushiii_new - 18:19 UTC · May 13, 2021
Bismillahhhh
3 rockets fired from Lebanon into Palestine
The Daily Star in Lebanon confirmed tonight's rocket strike. If Israel reacts to that provocation as it usually does a war in its north could soon become reality. It would not be a small one.
Ansar Allah, the Houthi led movement in Yemen, has offered to join a fight against the colonists. It is well know for its long range surprise capabilities and these may at one point be used in the fight.
While I am still not sure that all of this is part of a plan - from Hizbullah's speech, over unrest in Jerusalem, Gaza missiles, pogroms, to now missiles from Lebanon - it surely looks like a well rehearsed and coordinated (re-)action of the resistance front.
General Qasem Soleimani's plans are coming to fruition.
Posted by b on May 13, 2021 at 19:03 UTC | Permalink
next page »Thanks for the ME reporting b and I agree that "General Qasem Soleimani's plans are coming to fruition."
I don't think that many of us give the Occupied Palestine resistance axis as much credit as they deserve. I think the coming days will show their capabilities and determination.
I continue to be glad to see this cancer of humanity being dealt with in spite of the suffering involved.
May world peace rise from this civilization war....no more wars for profit and social control!!!
Posted by: psychohistorian | May 13 2021 19:26 utc | 2
Great report sir. Yes, the newest 'news' of harmlessly falling, poorly aimed rockets from Lebanon toward Israel is an interesting move. Whose ball is in whose court in the escalation of events. I asked in this forum the other day about whether the resistance was indeed ready to resist on the battlefield against Israeli aggression. One wonders if the rockets from Lebanon are a message from Hizbullah or an attempt at escalation from Israel. Guess we'll know soon.
Posted by: gottlieb | May 13 2021 19:30 utc | 3
Liberation of Southern Syria - the Golan Heights, also a possibility?
Posted by: tucenz | May 13 2021 19:32 utc | 4
General Qasem Soleimani's plans are coming to fruition.
I hope so! I believe such a development would solve many problems, not only in the middle east. The Palestinians deserve to get their country back.
Posted by: Norwegian | May 13 2021 19:39 utc | 5
Hezbollah is an obvious factor that would change things if they became involved. Perhaps less likely, but even more forceful would be Iran. This would risk a much larger conflict, but if it is a question of Israel's end game:
If necessary, Iran can fire 20000 missiles at Israel in less than 2 hours.
Posted by: Norwegian | May 13 2021 19:51 utc | 7
Hezbullah has been very careful not to be the aggressor until now. I'm not sure Nasrallah is ready to attack first and be open to the usual blame that follows - at least I don't think he'd do it if he wasn't absolutely sure of achieving a decisive victory, whatever that might be.
Still, this shows that Israel can't just hope to attack one side and have the others stay quiet and not intervene. It's good that the previous statu quo with IDF as the big guy that can do whatever he wants and bomb whomever he wants to is coming to an end.
Posted by: Clueless Joe | May 13 2021 19:54 utc | 8
As the rockets from the North were badly aimed and fell in fields, they were almost certainly a provocation by Israel infiltrators into Lebanon. This system was regularly used to call for Israeli air raids in Syria, when the terrorists were likely to be on the losing end of a SAA attack.
What I reckon is that Netanyahu wants the US to come to his rescue. ie. Let the Americans do the fighting and dying.
That the US has removed it's 125 personnel from Israel is a clear sign that they do not want to get involved in Israel.
BUT, include the presence of the US in Lebanon, (and the French and UK are there as well) - they could see this as an opportunity for Lebanon to be "regime changed" by themselves from the inside. Most of NATO is in the North Atlantic but there are also units waltzing all along the border with Russia, including ships in the Black Sea. The Russians were wary of a pseudo manoeuvre that hid a potential attack on Russia itself. This could also be used against Lebanon instead.
The only thing against that scenario is that NATO is in such bad shape. So a land affair might not be on the cards. However, it has a history of bombing for days on end. (78 in Yugoslavia/Serbia, and Libya)
Posted by: Stonebird | May 13 2021 19:54 utc | 9
i saw in a tweet from a lebanese that the jews would not attack after the bombing.
i found it trough the timeline of the Ali guy that b links above.
Posted by: Per/Norway | May 13 2021 19:56 utc | 10
Seems Nasrallah agrees with me: Israel's situation is very dire, it is slowly but surely collapsing from within.
The problem is that Zionism is a mere utopia. It's unfeasible in the long term. The only reason it apparently exists until nowadays is as a direct emanation of American power in the Levant - that's why, by the way, Israel is forced to make alliances with other Muslim Arab nations such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt.
Almost one fifth of Israel's population is Arab (presumably, absorbed Palestinians); Israel's Orthodox population - a useless population, who doesn't work and only pray and procreate - has implanted a demographic bomb in the country (that's the real reason Israel is so keen in finishing the occupation of the West Bank). Inequality has skyrocketed and continues to skyrocket in Israel, at a rhythm extremely high even by neoliberal standards. The economy is stagnating despite the yearly multi-billion dollar gifts from the American Empire (not counting the weapons, also given for free).
Israel flourished and reached its apex sometime at the end of the 1960s. After that, the Zionist model clearly started to show its first signs of exhaustion. After its military defeat in 2006, it became clear it was an outright crazy, even macabre, utopia.
The only question to be asked now is what it emerge from post-Zionist Israel, and what will be the situation of the Palestinians then. Both prospects don't look very promising.
Posted by: Roberto | May 13 2021 19:51 utc | 6
"are arab countries backing the palestinian cause?"
As far as I can tell they are backing into a hole in the corner, hoping no one will notice them. Their silence is deafening.
Posted by: Stonebird | May 13 2021 20:01 utc | 12
Last week the US asked all its citizens in Afghanistan to leave plus sending all those F18s and B52s et all to 'help with withdrawal'.
Then came the horrible triple attack on the elementary/middle school killing and injuring 257 shia children... prompting IRGC to announce an investigation into this which is very unusual as Iran always goes by the book (through diplomatic channels) when dealing with Afghanistan or other countries- at least overtly.
Iraqi Hezbollah also announced their readiness couple of days ago.
Posted by: Afgun | May 13 2021 20:11 utc | 13
I support b's comment re Netanyahu setting this off in an attempt to head of his corruption case now that it is no longer him that is trying to cobble up a new Government.
His problem now looks to be too many pressure points on the Palestinians, from the land seizures to the banning of Gazians fishing (their major source of protein), all coming to a head at the same time. The result is perhaps not what he expected, an easy political victory leading to a grateful nation reappointing him.
Instead he looks like the proverbial headless chicken, with no strategy apart from sending in the IDF. Already Israeli/Palestinian deaths are 1:10 that can only get much worse. If they really go in hard will the ME have to react? Can they go down in history as seeing Arabs slaughtered and maybe lose their holy place?
This is undoing all of Israel’s careful diplomatic moves, as, although Arab leaderships might want to do nothing their men on their streets really don’t like what is happening. For perhaps the first time there is little censorship on what they see, it is pouring out on social media.
It has also shot the Iron Dome in both feet, showing the World that, apart from under the best conditions, it is little more than a fig leaf. So much for all those export sales!
Every Israeli has now to feel very vulnerable. That Arab servant/shop worker/labourer has suddenly morphed from being a useful slave to a potential threat. This is a very serious economic issue on top of everything else. Their comfortable life is now a memory.
This is an opportunity too good to miss for Hezbollah. With the IAF having to fight on many fronts plus a valid reason to attack, the defence of their fellow Muslims. That looks like win:win to me.
All in all a huge strategic mistake is underway. Turning down Egyptian mediation will prove to have been a very costly mistake.
Posted by: JohninMK | May 13 2021 20:13 utc | 14
Update
"Lebanese Security Forces have reportedly arrested the individuals south of Tyre, #Lebanon who fired the rockets at #Israel"
Herzbollah denies responsibility for the rockets.
Ted Cruz wants the US to make sure that Israel has enough Iron Dome missiles, Macron has sided with Israel and called Abbass to tell him to stop the Palestinian missiles (and banned pro-Palestinian demos in Paris.)
We will have to see how the "International" crowd react now. Lots of words again?
Posted by: Stonebird | May 13 2021 20:16 utc | 15
If there is a coordinated plan behind the current events, maybe part of the plan is to deplete the Israeli 'Iron Dome' using hundreds of the relatively simple Hamas rockets as bait. Then, if Hezbollah gets involved the 'Iron Dome' is non-functional?
Posted by: Norwegian | May 13 2021 20:20 utc | 16
We need to wait and see. The rockets from Lebanon were probably from Palestinian forces, with approval from Hezbollah. A warning.
The only problem with B's analysis is his use of the phrase "anti-Jewish" to describe Palestinian protests and riots.
VK is right to see the Jewish fascist mobs as a culmination of Israel's essence: an ethno-religious, colonial-supremacist project.
Israel has no future. When the resistance moves into action, there will be a massive war and the zionist enterprise will be finished. 2006 was a foretaste. The zionists who survive will flee to NY, London, Paris, Boston, Montreal, Toronto. Pity those cities. And those of us who will have to endure the western media coverage of it.
Posted by: Prof | May 13 2021 20:37 utc | 17
@Serg | May 13 2021 20:26 utc | 17
That is very significant since it is the Ramon airport near the Red Sea, where the flights originally routed to Tel Aviv were re-directed. Looks like the Hamas rockets are not just basic bottle rockets anymore. The distance from Gaza to Ramon airport is approximately 190 Km!
Posted by: Norwegian | May 13 2021 20:44 utc | 18
One should consider the possibility that the provocations that started this were not meant for safeguarding Netanyahu's political future but to create a reason to grab the West Bank as per Trump's "Deal of the Century" - a "deal" that has clearly been rejected by the Palestinians.
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Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 13 2021 20:48 utc | 19
If most flights out had not been cancelled there would be a reverse Exodus underway this week.
Posted by: JohninMK | May 13 2021 20:53 utc | 20
This is an excellent analysis and a very straightforward report.
The occupation cannot control the outcome of these events.
What it can, and should, do is cease all aggression, release all prisoners from the Al Aqsa raids, and cease all eviction processes (which have been rumored to be but temporarily delayed by some courtroom procedure, as I understand).
Hezbollah has provided little support to Hamas in the past. It is usually 95 percent lip service. Who knows though. Interesting times.
Posted by: goldhoarder | May 13 2021 21:08 utc | 23
Roberto @6, Stonebird @12:
With the exception of Syria and Lebanon (which have enough of an Israel problem on their hands) and maybe Tunisia, the Arab states are satrapies of the USA that will mercilessly put down any pro-Palestinian protests in their countries -- with arms supplied by the USA precisely for the purpose of repressing the plebs. Looking a bit farther afield, Iran is pro-Palestinian but is not interested in a war with Israel; meanwhile, Erodgan's condemnation of the current Israeli oppression isn't worth taking seriously.
Posted by: corvo | May 13 2021 21:14 utc | 24
Apparently, a ground attack on Gaza is underway
https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1392953390443991040
Israel Defense Forces @IDF
IDF air and ground troops are currently attacking in the Gaza Strip.
11:22 PM · May 13, 2021
This will not end well...
Posted by: Norwegian | May 13 2021 21:40 utc | 25
A Qassam rocket costs $800. An Iron Dome counter-missile costs $80.000. Enough said.
Posted by: passerby | May 13 2021 21:46 utc | 26
A golden opportunity for MbS to recognize Israel and even better if he visits Israeli troops and the IAF just as they bomb the Gaza strip again [#sarcasm]. Some of the Arab states might be having buyers remorse now.
Hezbollah and Iron Dome ID is being pushed to its limits to handle 500 relatively low end rockets a day then the IDF just got a wake up call because Hezbollah can do much better than they. I recall reading that they could unleash 2,000 a day and their missiles are much better. Nasrallah does not want to do that. It's Netanyahu who is the psychopath burning down the house.
Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | May 13 2021 21:49 utc | 27
B's tendency to somehow see recent developments in a positive light is something I cannot understand in any way. All this can set in motion a chain of escalation that can also reach him in Hamburg. Many fuses are burning, many people are stressed by the pandemic and the deterioration of the economic situation in many places associated with it. Many states, especially in the West, are led by self-overestimating idiots. The weapons and over-weapons stored everywhere today in enormous quantities can cause irreparable harm.
Even if the war were to be confined to the current zone, it is another disaster without even one upside. Apart from external and internal destruction, nothing comes out of it. Afterwards, everything is much more difficult.
Posted by: pnyx | May 13 2021 21:50 utc | 28
A Qassam rocket costs $800. An Iron Dome counter-missile costs $80.000. Enough said. | Posted by: passerbyLyndsay Graham has already promised to replenish Israel's stock of ID missiles. Israel will be able to bomb Gaza with the full faith and credit of the U.S. Treasury Dept.
Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | May 13 2021 21:51 utc | 29
The Great Reset is really all about moving the center of all operations to Israel. The financial capital of the world. The purpose Israel was REALLY created for. Hence :
The land grabs Of Palestinian land and territory
The promotion of digital currency so it can be used worldwide
Covid-19 and lockdowns was created to bring about remote shopping and working and moving everything digital and remote
Investment in digital tech and AL tech
The Abrams accord
The slow destruction of US economy and US Dollar by the US FED Reserve (which is owned by the very people who created and own most of Israel )
The move out of New York City And the excuse of violence and taxes which they themselves implemented (Wall Street was going to move activities and HQs to Israel eventually, hence the push for digital currency and the move away from US Dollar) First they move to Florida then Israel. That's the plan.
This violence In Gaza was created so they can take Gaza by force hence the US marines were in town to help. They kept the Russians occupied with Ukraine (why no one understood the sudden troop Violence there) They kept China busy in the South Seas with US and Australia so they can quietly take Gaza.
The Israelis have been creating and instigating fights with the Palestinians for a while -throughout Ramadan hoping they would take the bait.
The Israelis even chose the date which is special for the Hamas so the world would think the Palestinians started it
BUT- Hamas fought back hard and took the Israelis by surprise
The US Marines realize now that it will become a WAR as Hamas will fight and may inflict severe damage - it isn’t as easy as the Israeli and US command thought it would be
America beware - they will destroy America and the America Economy in order for Israel to succeed. Hence all those chosen have dual nationalities- jump ship when time has come
Posted by: TheMagicRoundabout | May 13 2021 21:57 utc | 30
Gaza is under heavy attack according to twitter feed from Gazans.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/GazaUnderAttack?src=hashtag_click
This is a tragic, tragic development. The Palestinians are alone, as they always have been.
Posted by: JB | May 13 2021 22:03 utc | 31
I consider the death of the Israel project an extreme upside.
Posted by: ld | May 13 2021 22:06 utc | 32
@ Norwegian | May 13 2021 20:44 utc | 19
The new Gaza's missiles are now long-range and destructive. At the moment, not precisely guided.
How long before the next serial with "Yemeni precision kits" to be delivered?
It's time to pack and leave.
Nasrallah's speech last week MUST be understood
Either way, the sound logic that must be imposed on all occupiers and invaders is as follows: give back the land you have occupied to its true owners, and go back to where you came from. Otherwise you will be expelled in one way or another, by force or otherwise. This land belongs to the Palestinian people and the peoples of this region, in the diversity of their religious and doctrinal affiliations, but this land is by no means for Israel or for the colonizers, occupiers and settlers from all over the world.
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I must also conclude by greeting the Palestinian people, the young people of Al-Quds and all the children of this oppressed people, fighting, resistant, patient, who remain firmly attached to their rights. As I have always said on every occasion, this is the basis (of everything): as long as the Palestinian people remain committed to these rights, as long as they continue their fight, despite all the betrayals in the world, no one will succeed in liquidating the Palestinian cause.
But it's a long way to freedom.
As Nasrallah said, that cannot happen from outside. The biggest surprise is the return of "Israëli's Arabs" Youth in the fight.
Trump's agreement was $50 billion to "leave the country and forget your rights". Failed
Posted by: Djazaïr | May 13 2021 22:10 utc | 33
Thanks b, well argued and coherent even if speculative and circumstantial. The next chapter would be to consider the international response if you're right. Where do recent attempts at KSA-Iran detente fit in here?
Posted by: Patroklos | May 13 2021 22:14 utc | 34
@ Norwegian | May 13 2021 20:44 utc | 19
The new Gaza's missiles are now long-range and destructive. At the moment, not precisely guided.
How long before the next serial with "Yemeni precision kits" to be delivered?
It's time to pack and leave.
Nasrallah's speech last week MUST be understood
Either way, the sound logic that must be imposed on all occupiers and invaders is as follows: give back the land you have occupied to its true owners, and go back to where you came from. Otherwise you will be expelled in one way or another, by force or otherwise. This land belongs to the Palestinian people and the peoples of this region, in the diversity of their religious and doctrinal affiliations, but this land is by no means for Israel or for the colonizers, occupiers and settlers from all over the world.
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I must also conclude by greeting the Palestinian people, the young people of Al-Quds and all the children of this oppressed people, fighting, resistant, patient, who remain firmly attached to their rights. As I have always said on every occasion, this is the basis (of everything): as long as the Palestinian people remain committed to these rights, as long as they continue their fight, despite all the betrayals in the world, no one will succeed in liquidating the Palestinian cause.
But it's a long way to freedom.
As Nasrallah said, that cannot happen from outside. The biggest surprise is the return of "Israëli's Arabs" Youth in the fight.
Trump's agreement was $50 billion to "leave the country and forget your rights". Failed
Posted by: Djazair | May 13 2021 22:20 utc | 35
@ TheMagicRoundabout (31)
They have already off-shored a huge amount of US industry, degraded the infrastructure with neglect, incurred debts of 33 trillion and started a race war. I would say the destruction is more or less complete already.
Posted by: MarkU | May 13 2021 23:44 utc | 36
Jews are a tenacious bunch, smart, resourceful, with financial acumen. Yet despite all this, they have not learned how to befriend their neighbours. If they really wanted Israel to be world capital, they would have dispensed with the ethnostate drivel and lured all the poor Arabs and Muslims to Israel with promise of good jobs and lives, draining the productivity out of neighbouring countries, then influencing the development of the surrounding countries through trade and infrastructure development. But, they went down another path. Missed opportunity. Too much of the Caucasian in their blood. Psycho breed. Actual Semites are nice generally, Mediterranean laid back, it's the pale faces that go insane when the sun starts flaring.
Posted by: Jezabeel | May 13 2021 23:46 utc | 37
https://www.rt.com/news/523764-idf-ground-forces-attacking-gaza/
It's on.
Posted by: Smith | May 14 2021 0:26 utc | 38
History has a funny way of resurfacing. The old fascist provenance of Zionism is visible to the whole world now. I don’t see how the country endures as anything other than a District 9-style dump.
Posted by: Anonymous | May 14 2021 0:38 utc | 39
Jews vs Arab; Judaism vs Muslim; Christian vs Judaism and Mohammed-ism; Arab Occupied Palestine vs Jew Occupied Israel; one nation state vs the other nation state. Divide, split and conquer by method of binary. The end game of the global oligarch seems to be coming to the forefront, its time for Israel to be merged and to take its place in the divide and conquer game.
I see federalism rising from Ottoman dust. ASA the Turkey is done, the Ottoman Empire will consume it.
The Ottoman is forming into a western controlled federal government with rule of law control over the Ottoman lands. Federalism is likely to incorporate all the so called Arab states and gobble up Israel, and place the individual nation states under one federal government. That federal government will be in servitude to the Oligarch owned western nation states. The Oligarchs are in charge, they are on the march to take undisputed command over their WWI spoils of war prize, the Ottoman oil.
Federalism, made possible by the structure and design of the nation state system, provides the coordinated power needed to keep the Eastern Oil bandits from gaining access to the spoils of WWI the western oil bandits expected from Israel. Israel has failed the oligarch. The entire world will die before the Western Oligarch share the oil and gas their 130 year "get the ottoman oil" effort (since 1897) has produced for them.
The method since the war has been binary created turmoil. The Western Oil Oligarch goal in conducting WWI was to own all of the oil under the Ottoman empire. Israel is too small and too weak, too devastated, to be capable to guard the oil. Guarding the oil requires controlled access, restricted use, massive military power, rule of law provided monopoly ownership of the oil and gas beneath the old Ottoman Empire.
Posted by: snake | May 14 2021 0:53 utc | 40
Posted by: Jezabeel "Jews are a tenacious bunch, smart, resourceful, with financial acumen. Yet despite all this, they have not learned how to befriend their neighbours."In a way, that's what Iran says (minus the compliments) when they say Israel is an artificial entity doomed to fail because they need the U.S. to create chaos in the Arab world to survive. Wouldn't it be great if they proved Iran wrong by not bombing Syria every week, or by not getting the U.S. to cripple Lebanon, Iran, and Iraq w/sanctions, or hold back the few crumbs we give to the Palestinians unless they totally grovel?
But instead they prefer to be patronized by U.S. Evangelicals who encourage their worst fears and make them ever more aggressive against their neighbors and then lie about it and then lie about lying. Iran is a better friend to Israel because at least there is some value in what they are saying rather than the worthless flattery they get from their fake friends in the U.S.
Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | May 14 2021 1:14 utc | 41
>>>>: Norwegian | May 13 2021 21:40 utc | 26
Apparently, a ground attack on Gaza is underwayhttps://twitter.com/IDF/status/1392953390443991040
Israel Defense Forces @IDF
IDF air and ground troops are currently attacking in the Gaza Strip.
11:22 PM · May 13, 2021
Not yet. Apparently this is a mistranslation from Hebrew to English. Israeli ground forces are firing into Gaza but are not actually fighting in Gaza.
This raises the question of what are Israel's declared political objectives with this aggression. So far, they've not made them public. There has been no mention of eradicating Hamas or stopping the missile fire - if Hamas survive and/or the rocket fire continues then Israel has not lost because it was never their objectives to eradicate Hamas. and/or stop the rocket fire.
Instead it seems to be death and destruction for the sake of death and destruction and with the civilian population of Gaza that makes it terrorism and a war crime. In fact far more of a war crime than any death and destruction in Syria which was aimed at eradicating al Qaeda and other like-minded terrorist groups.
Will HRW start to describe Israel as a terrorist state? Somehow I doubt it but I hope it does.
But I quite agree "this will not end well", particularly for Israel.
Posted by: Ghost Ship | May 14 2021 1:29 utc | 42
Posted by: vk | May 13 2021 19:57 utc | 11
How can you describe the Zionist dream of establishing an apartheid ghetto in someone else's country and ethnically cleansing its population as a 'utopia'?
Get a grip on yourself, time for a reality check.
Posted by: Paul | May 14 2021 1:46 utc | 43
U.S. Evangelicals are Jews. Jews who married Christians and hide behind Christianity as a cover and to fit in. Name changes, and marriage to Europeans to create “European-looking” offspring are other ways. That’s what all my relatives do and have done for centuries. Masonic temple? That started out as secret meetings of Jews (who pretended to be Christians in order to fit in) to pray and perform Jewish rituals secretly. Hence the 6 pointed star/animal sacrifices etc that spies saw and reported back as devil worshiping rather than Jewish prayer and practices that they were unfamiliar with.
How do I know? My father researched this through diaries of relatives and friends over the years. But when you read closely the stories/ diaries of writers from the 17-19th centuries you will see what I mean.
That is why US evangelicals are strong supporters of Israel. They are Jews parading as Christians. My mom is one of them.
Posted by: Stargazer | May 14 2021 1:48 utc | 44
@ Posted by: Paul | May 14 2021 1:46 utc | 42
"utopia" in the sense that it is an impossibility, an illusion.
Pretty sure vk meant "utopian" in the sense of unachievable and not in the sense of some kind of heaven.
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | May 14 2021 1:51 utc | 46
Soon the day will come when all the Zionistas will stab all the new Israel expats in the back. The congresspeople have well and truly been payed off. So who will give a shit about the Israeli cannon fodder? Who?
They came, they saw, they dehydrated. Too bad, too sad. The fate of the temporarily useful.
@42 paul... ditto sunny runny burgers comment - my read as well..
Posted by: james | May 14 2021 1:56 utc | 48
I'm not sure Hizbullah is ready to join the fight. They have to choose their moment well. Hizbullah firing its missiles is probably a once-only event. They have to choose when it will have a devastating effect, preferably when the Iron Dome missiles have been used up on the Gazan cheap rockets.
Posted by: Laguerre | May 14 2021 2:00 utc | 49
I want to thank b for the update and all the posters for their comments and links. Great work everyone!
I wonder if the Israelis strategy of attacking Iranian tankers is one provocation too many. The Axis of Resistance has had the patience of Job. They always have stated that they would choose their time and place for the appropriate retaliation. Has that time arrived? If Hizbollah intervene then Israel is surely in serious trouble.
Posted by: EoinW | May 14 2021 2:07 utc | 50
I don’t remember this kind of escalation during Trumps term.
I know, correlation doesn’t etc, etc.
But shit seemed to stabilize a bit.
Just saying.
Posted by: Cadence calls | May 14 2021 2:10 utc | 51
plo president Abbas is a traitor
fyi
from the syrian girl - The apartheid state in 30 seconds - explosions, brutality, mass abuse of elements of the population, murder, suppression and violence against protestors, destruction of Palestinian shops and stores - Shocking images of inhumanity....... Sound familiar, America?
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1393017163519172608
"In the last few days 100 Palestinians, including 27 children, all because they refused to be kicked out of their homes and ethnically cleansed."
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/jordanian-protestors-call-for-expulsion-of-israeli-envoy/2236807
Jordanian protestors call for expulsion of Israeli envoy
Around 2,000 Jordanian staged protest for second day in row near Israeli Embassy in capital Amman
is Hezbollah soon going to jump in? Elijah considers this among other things
https://ejmagnier.com/2021/05/13/gaza-hits-israels-prestige/
Gaza hits Israel's prestige
Posted by: michaelj72 | May 14 2021 2:16 utc | 52
Why would Israel want another war? Stephen Sniegoski PhD explains why in his excellent online essay: The War on Iraq, Conceived in Israel:
"War and expulsion
To understand why Israeli leaders would want a Middle East war, it is first necessary to take a brief look at the history of the Zionist movement and its goals. Despite public rhetoric to the contrary, the idea of expelling (or, in the accepted euphemism, "transferring") the indigenous Palestinian population was an integral part of the Zionist effort to found a Jewish national state in Palestine. Historian Tom Segev writes:
The idea of transfer had accompanied the Zionist movement from its very beginnings, first appearing in Theodore Herzl's diary. In practice, the Zionists began executing a mini-transfer from the time they began purchasing the land and evacuating the Arab tenants.... "Disappearing" the Arabs lay at the heart of the Zionist dream, and was also a necessary condition of its existence.... With few exceptions, none of the Zionists disputed the desirability of forced transfer — or its morality.
However, Segev continues, the Zionist leaders learned not to publicly proclaim their plan of mass expulsion because "this would cause the Zionists to lose the world's sympathy."
Too bad, they have already lost the worlds sympathy, see this from Australia's former ambassador to the bandit state, Peter Rodgers:
https://johnmenadue.com/australia-and-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict-can-policy-overcome-politics/
Note the 'diplomatic language.'
However, they still have the sympathy of the bought and paid for unrepresentative swill acting as compradors who govern their Captive Nations.
Posted by: Paul | May 14 2021 2:27 utc | 53
Hezbollah is a "terror organisation " just like the zionist entity is an "island of freedom and democracy ".
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | May 14 2021 2:28 utc | 54
Jezabeel, yours is not an honest assessment of very real Nordic weaknesses. We did not adapt to high density societies. Especially due to the Reformation, we cannot compete culturally or politically. We believe in simplistic mass ideologies, are ignorant of history. Semites developed within dense societies where competing within society was advantageous.
Perhaps northeast Asians are like Nordics but with superior Confucian ideas. We once had Aristotle but rejected him.
Jews developed differently under extreme circumstances in Europe. They are perhaps more like a class or multiple, once-isolated castes. The issue there isnt broader race as you’re thinking. Look at cats and dogs: Breeds can arise quickly.
Posted by: Weaver | May 14 2021 2:28 utc | 55
@43 Stargazer - That is why US evangelicals are strong supporters of Israel. They are Jews parading as Christians.
This is a compelling concept. Thanks. I hope to explore it more fully. If you have any more collateral to offer it would be welcome.
Posted by: Grieved | May 14 2021 2:34 utc | 56
The compass for the resistance has not changed. Nasrallah has made his point very clear since 2000 and more so after Souliamani and Al Muhandis murders.
I do not think this was premeditated on the part of the resistance.
Another miscalculation on the part of Israel.
A case of the "the straw that broke the camel's back".
Israel has been on the edge for a long time. They have witnessed the massive upgrade of the resistance war machine in lebanon syria Iraq Yemen and so on.
“Chariots of Fire” was supposed to exhibit Israel's might and quell public fear, it produced the exact opposite.
The Genie is out of the bottle.
The US will give Israel time to improve its position in the ceasefire negotiations. Again, it will not achieve that.
Netanyahoo should consult with Olmert.
Posted by: TinDome | May 14 2021 2:37 utc | 57
As b reports, and as we are all here fairly agreed, escalation dominance rests not with Israel but with the Resistance.
It seems impossible that Hezbollah would act, simply as if in reaction to anything that Israel does. Surely, the resistance has long war-gamed all of the possible scenarios that can manifest from the fundamentals of the situation. Surely, Israel has found itself caught in this trap since 2006 - for it has invented no unique means of escaping from its circumstances.
Perhaps, its escape was long considered to be Crimea, and we know the Zionists maneuvered for decades for this alternate paradise to leech upon. But Stalin forestalled them, and Putin sent their dreams, with finality, into the bottomless abyss, never to resurface.
This must have upset their calculations.
Surely, the Resistance looks very much beyond the battles and physical actions that will result in the end of Israel as an occupying force - as a recognized nation, even - and has considered how this population of people will accord with the circumstances that destiny has long written for them?
Nasrallah, the truthful, has already begun to foreshadow this future when he now speaks of the population of Israel leaving for other parts of the world. Even here, now, we speak of this. So the paradigm has already been changed.
~~
The conversation will come to move beyond whether Israel plans this or that - or if the Twitter announcement from IDF of an attack on Gaza is worth the electrons it took to emit it - and instead will turn, and is turning, to the important question of this: where are the inhabitants of Israel to go when their criminal tenure on that land is foreclosed?
And this will be a rich discussion, wherein many stories from the long history of the world will come to the table.
Posted by: Grieved | May 14 2021 2:51 utc | 58
@ Grieved | May 14 2021 2:51 utc | 57who wrote
"
And this will be a rich discussion, wherein many stories from the long history of the world will come to the table.
"
There are a number or rich historic and cultural evolutionary discussions that need to take place but will they happen? I sure hope we have the chance and that this social juncture is the one to break the barbarism/socialism evolutionary barrier for our species.
Posted by: psychohistorian | May 14 2021 3:10 utc | 59
I'm more pessimistic.
Thus far the zionists, scared of coming as unstuck in Gaza as the wermacht they emulate came undone at Stalingrad by trying to fight determined patriots with little to lose amongst the street-blocking rubble that they themselves created, have confined their butchery to artillery & air attacks.
The resulting slaughter is horrific but a net & phone clampdown has prevented the few independent reporters in Gaza showing the world thus far, but the reality will come out eventually, whether many are permitted to see what these racist ethnic cleansers have done is another issue entirely.
I don't see Hezbollah going in, as as much as they would like to assist their Palestinian brothers their duty to their own homeland is a higher priority.
Gaza and surrounding environs is a zionist constructed killing ground and it is unlikely that Hezbollah will be as effective in destroying the zionist scum in and around Gaza as they have done & will do again in their own carefully routed killing zones in South Lebanon.
Nasrallah is too smart to fall for hasbara led taunts about "Why aren't they (hezbollah) assisting in Gaza", but I've no doubt we will continue to see that tosh posted here at MoA.
Many, many Palestinians will be murdered over the next few weeks and that in exchange for a few more *westerners* having the scales fall from their peepers in the realisation that zionist occupiers of Palestine are truly evil is not an upside by any stretch.
Imo egypt is the state most susceptible to internal dissent, the mess made of the pandemic has already triggered the egyptian in the street, this effusive pandering to the occupiers plus their corrupt & tyrannical friends in the Gulf states could easily get egypt boiling.
Posted by: Debsisdead | May 14 2021 3:38 utc | 60
Chapter One of Prof. Israel Shahak's book Jewish History Jewish Religion, The Weight of Three Thousand Years is 'A Closed Utopia?"
Shahak writes: "In a similar way true believers in that Utopia called the 'Jewish state' which will strive to achieve the 'Biblical Borders' are more dangerous than the grand strategists of the Gatiz's type because their policies are being sanctified either by the use of religion or, worse, by the use of secularised religious principles which retain absolute validity."
Sir Thomas More had utopian ideas too:
Like Plato’s Republic, More’s Utopia is the creation of a well-meaning member of the upper classes with a plan, rather than the live-for-the-moment dream of a peasant or worker. In Utopia, private property is abolished. “There is nothing within the houses that is private or any man’s own,” writes More. Every three months, the people pile up loads of stuff in the market place; anyone can come along and take what they need – like a recycling centre.
Above all, Utopia was the earnest attempt to create a fair society, not one which benefited only the rich. “I can perceave nothing but a certein conspiracy if rich men procuring their own commodities under the name and title of commonwealth," More writes.
Posted by: Paul | May 14 2021 3:51 utc | 61
Mr. Paul
I think Utopia is a vision of Heaven on Earth.
But men are in the State of Fall and thus Utopia will always remain out of reach, but with the Grace of God, which he has kept to Himself.
There is not a more damning epitaph for the United States than this:
"Here lies the Shining Republic,
The embodiment of the ideas of Enlightenment,
Imperfectly realized -
Hoisted by its own petard:
Judeo-Christianity"
Posted by: Fyi | May 14 2021 4:08 utc | 62
@ Fyi | May 14 2021 4:08 utc | 61 who wrote
My monotheistic myth is better than your monotheistic myth and discussing myth is more useful than the reality of private/public finance civilization war going on by proxy.
Typical faith breather....sigh....people like you are the reason humanity has not evolved from barbarism to some form of socialism.....your way is right, everyone else is wrong and you refuse to compromise your myth to get along with others.
Posted by: psychohistorian | May 14 2021 4:30 utc | 63
@43 Stargazer - That is why US evangelicals are strong supporters of Israel. They are Jews parading as Christians. This is a compelling concept. Thanks. I hope to explore it more fully. If you have any more collateral to offer it would be welcome. Posted by: Grieved | May 14 2021 2:34 utc | 55
...the institution of the divine kingdom was conceived as no remote event, but as a present fact, a living reality, actual in the hearts of men 'on earth as it is in heaven'. But the seeds of this doctrine, so fruitful for the spiritual regeneration of humanity, were planted in the soil of Hebrew prophecy. It is for this reason that not the Jew only but the Christian, can admit the claim of Israel to the title of the chosen people. 'You only have I known of all the families of the earth'. To Israel alone of the peoples of the pre-Christian worldwas vouchsafed the vision of the kindgdom of God; and her record of that vsion constitutes her legacy to mankind.
The Legacy of the Ancient World by W.G. DeBurgh, published 1960,
Posted by: Guerrero | May 14 2021 4:34 utc | 64
@grieved 55
Yes. Many Jews of European ancestry like mine married Christians and outwardly practiced Christianity but secretly practiced Judaism. This was to fit in and deflect persecution as well as loss of opportunities because of religion.
My great grandfather said there was a book that listed all the Jewish families in America and Europe who had Christian names and promoted themselves as Christian but were actually Jewish. He said he remembered it clearly because the name Rockefeller was in it. He was shocked.
Posted by: Stargazer | May 14 2021 4:40 utc | 65
"Ghost Ship - Israeli ground forces are firing into Gaza but are not actually fighting in Gaza."I've wondered about that. It's not as if the Gaza strip is large. Israeli artillery / mortars could easily rake the entire area without them having to go in and it's cheaper than using aircraft. Netanyahu can go full psycho on the Gaza strip and 99% of the U.S. Congress will trip over themselves sponsoring resolutions about how Israel has a right to defend itself and resupply them with bombs.
No one batted an eye when he ordered the IAF to destroy 3 of the largest apartment buildings in Gaza. Just say, 'terrorists, human shields' and he can do anything, might as well start using nukes. That might trigger a call for both sides to deescalate.
Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | May 14 2021 4:47 utc | 66
In a footnote to the forgoing quote, the author writes:
A further difference between Christianity and contemporary Judaism must be indicated. Christ came to preach 'good tidings of great joy', and it was as such that his message appealed to the people of the Mediterranean world. But in the Jewish apocalyptic writings of the period 200 B.C. - A.D. 100, the dominant thought is that of divine vengance. For the world-at-large , and even for the ungodly among the Jews, the message was one of terror, not of hope. The Jews believed in the efficacy of fear and punishment and taught God's implacable enmity to unrepentant sinners. Even the Testament of the Twelve Patriarchs (second century B.C.) which contains the nearest approach to the Christian doctrine of forgivenemess, falls short of the Christian ideal of love towards enemies.
Posted by: Guerrero | May 14 2021 5:06 utc | 67
@63 Guerrero
Thank you - what a welcome appearance of you.
So the message given was of the universal, and the chosen took it as applying only to a portion of all. But not only this, the message given was of the timeless, and the chosen took it as being bound in time. The primordial was made into temporal.
It's a commonplace fall. It's a common mistake among all sentient beings, to filter the absolute down into relative terms. Small brains, we.
And here in this case, the chosen think that the absolute can apply partiality, and to a particularity. This defies all the logic of this universe.
~~
The chosen operate under color of special dispensation, and commit actions that, absent the coloration, are abominations, and damned.
Remove the color. Let them stand accused of their crimes. This is the conversation that is eventually coming. They can run ahead of karmic justice for only so long, and then it catches up, and that time may looming.
Posted by: Grieved | May 14 2021 5:10 utc | 68
Hey, Grieved! Here is the continuation of that footnote that concludes Chapter Three of this great book.
...Mr Montefiore (in Jackson and Lake's Acts i. 79) notes that contemporary Judaism lacks the distinctively Christian precept of a love that seeks out the sinner and the fallen. If this be man's duty, it must be as the expression of divine love, extending even to the unthankful and the evil. The apocalyptic writers came to marvel why God created the mass of men for eternal punishment; but they never questioned the fact. Doubtless, Christian theology absorbed much of this Jewish tradition. In Dante's poem, we read that shoals of spirits are driven before the poet's eye, while only one (Statius) passes, during his journey, from Purgatory to Paradise. Yet this baneful legacy has never obliterated Christ's new and essential teaching of the universal love of God, as enshrined., e.g. in the parables of the lost sheep and the prodigal son.
Hope this helps!
Posted by: Guerrero | May 14 2021 5:31 utc | 69
Israel has, in the past, blasted away at any military presence in places like Gaza, and then simmered down and gone back to trying to live with its Palestinian population. This never achieves anything except yet more generations of hostile Palestinians. This time, Israel has gone to some effort to get in the good graces of as many of the Gulf States as possible (they are the primary monetary backers of Palestine), and then waited until President Potatohead took office. PP is the sort of guy who ducks like mad when any sort of trouble heads his way. He doesn't want to get involved, take responsibility, or share any blame.
This time, Israel may try to force out the Gazan population entirely. Anything else that leaves the Gazan population intact will only leave intact the problem of two peoples who cannot get along.
Posted by: Anon | May 14 2021 5:40 utc | 70
Interesting timing.
2 weeks ago we read how the neocon plan for Ukraine (combined with Belarus) was supposed to have hatched out on May 9 as well.
Until now Putin has had the luxury of responding to ziocon plots one at a time. This is definitely an upgrade in tactics.
Posted by: les7 | May 14 2021 6:00 utc | 71
@71
"Until now Putin has had the luxury of not doing anything remotely useful in response to ziocon plots one at a time."
Fixed that for you.
Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | May 14 2021 6:06 utc | 72
@71
You didn't fix anything.
In the words of Sheikh Imran Hosein, Putin, with the restoration of Crimea to Russia, delivered to the Zionist movement the first significant defeat it had ever suffered in its more than one hundred years of activity.
Did you miss that useful thing?
Posted by: Grieved | May 14 2021 6:15 utc | 73
The attempts to denigrate the president of Russia for the crime of the Russian government doing its job by not getting involved in issues that do not directly effect Russian citizens is an obvious by-product of fantasy world offered here by slow-witted hopefuls who have convinced themselves Russia is still bound by the ideology which was rejected nearly 30 years ago when the Russian army laid siege to their parliament and rounded up all the CP members.
Many of us were thankful when Russia lent assistance to Syria, but the way that this has been misinterpreted as some sort of ideologically driven act, when as we all observed after Russia & Turkey cut a deal which left Syria fractionated, Russia was serving Russian interests in Syria makes one very cynical about many posters' ability to correctly interpret facts presented by alternative media.
Like amerika, Russia has a powerful zionist lobby, so that it is ludicrous to expect Russia, or in fact any other non-Semitic culture, including China, to intervene unless they perceive an *earner* in intervening.
Many Palestinians are going to be butchered; killing many and maiming many more over the next few weeks. Unless those Arabic speaking nations ruled over by zionist bribed tyrants stand up to their local oppressors and force intervention to aid Palestinians, all we are going to witness in the short term is many more decent Palestinian folk having their already traumatic lives made even worse.
There is nothing I would prefer to happen than the sight of the occupiers being driven away to live their worthless existences in some refugee camp, but realistically that will not happen in the short term.
I'm not going to hope that the zio-fascists go overboard so the world is forced to confront the reality of zionism because for that to happen too many Palestinians would have to die.
Posted by: Debsisdead | May 14 2021 6:39 utc | 74
Lebanon is in SERIOUS trouble these days, exacerbated by a currency crash and the port explosions last year. And politically, Hizbullah can't offer many solutions.
Hizbullah is just itching to get into this fight, but on their Telegram channels, they say they're waiting for Hamas to invite them in first.
Honestly? I'd say there's now a realistic chance that Israel might be defeated within five years or less.
Nasrallah is right. Israel just doesn't have enough Jews to sustain their control over Palestine, no matter how many billions the USA gives them. It really is a matter of time before Israel falls.
Posted by: Sam | May 14 2021 7:08 utc | 75
@71 Putin continues to do what he does best
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is doing something stupid..."
Although, having said that, Putin did give a cryptic warning regarding the jackals using Kipling. When understood, even that was not so much an interruption as a subtle warning
Posted by: les7 | May 14 2021 7:26 utc | 76
@Grieved | May 14 2021 2:51 utc | 57
where are the inhabitants of Israel to go when their criminal tenure on that land is foreclosed?
The Palestinian inhabitants can obviously remain.
As you said, by now it is pretty clear the Zionist plan was to move to Crimea. The US Navy was even stupidly seeking tenders in 2013 for upgrading buildings in Sevastopol, so the US was directly involved. As we know, the Maidan coup happened in 2014.
So maybe this tells us a couple of things. First, the Zionists in occupied Palestine saw their own position as untenable years ago, and things have not improved for them since. Second, their Khazarian geographical origin was arrogantly chosen as their next destination, but the Russians saw that and cut them short in a brilliant move. If this is correct, the events in Ukraine and in occupied Palestine are directly linked, they are not isolated conflicts.
The Russians are requiring a settlement of the Ukraine crisis based on the Minsk agreements. Most likely, the idea of a summit between Putin and Biden in June will vanish unless the US can provide guarantees in that direction, and it seems very unlikely indeed. So the Russians and the US will not work towards settlement of anything, including the conflict in occupied Palestine. It looks like the present conflict will have to find a local resolution. Without sufficient external support to the Zionists it is a question of time before the game is up.
So where will the Zionists go in the event that it all collapses? Maybe the collapse of the US will offer an opportunity for another settler state? But the US is already a Zionist settler state so...
Posted by: Norwegian | May 14 2021 7:56 utc | 77
@ Norwegian
Top Zion dogs will probably go the US as some of them are already dual citizen.
Others will go back to Russia, Poland, Germany, eastern Europe.
The rest will just be Palestinian again.
Posted by: Smith | May 14 2021 8:02 utc | 78
Grieved. You have some interesting points about 'Nordic weaknesses', but I feel it's simply a matter of the Eastern Med being too hot for those of Northern European extraction. They all need to sit in some glacial water for a while and reduce the temperature of their testicles. Oh and quit with the Gods Chosen People schtick.
Posted by: Jezabeel | May 14 2021 8:22 utc | 79
The entire so-called 'Middle East' is totally 100% doomed because of lack of (reasonably priced) Fresh Water! California too. But no worry -- the next Ice Age will amply recharge those thirsty aquifers, and even North Africa will be green again. You just need a little more patience.
Something odd seems to be happening with comment numbers, is this website being interfered with? People are responding to comments but the comment number alluded to doesn't correspond. People do make mistakes obviously but there are too many cases for that to be a likely explanation. For example
Grieved (69) responds to 63 Guerrero but 63 is actually a comment by fyi
James (49) responds to 42 paul. but 42 is actually Christian J. Chuba
There are many other cases, I'm not going to list them all.
Posted by: MarkU | May 14 2021 8:25 utc | 81
The rocket arsenal of Hisbollah (some 150.000+) is generally overrated. It can level apartment buildings and kill a few hundred Israeli civilians but that's it. It can't do any serious damage to the Israeli war machine and it can inflict only limited damage to the Israeli infrastructure and economy.
It makes a strategic difference only in deterring an Israeli attack on Lebanon. Once Hisbollah actually joins the war that deterrence is gone. I agree with Laguerre, Hisbollah will think trice if it's really worth sacrificing that strategic advantage.
Overall the war isn't going very well for the Palestinians. The imminent downfall of Israel that many commentators here predict is IMHO wishfull thinking. That's still decades in the future. This round is most likely going to end like the war of 2014, in a stalemate.
Posted by: m | May 14 2021 8:25 utc | 82
@ MarkU | May 14 2021 8:25 utc | 82
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ALL web-host companies (except godaddy, yuck) are in fact owned by one monopoly, including this one. The only 'independents' are:
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Yep. Tis true!
@Jezabeel | May 14 2021 8:22 utc | 80
What's the nonsense about 'Nordic weaknesses" in this context? The Nordic countries are exactly 5 countries, the 3 Scandinavian countries + Finland and Iceland. Now for sure these countries are very, very far from perfect, but I don't see what this has to do with the topic of this thread, unless there is some implication of direct involvement that I am unaware of.
Posted by: Norwegian | May 14 2021 9:10 utc | 86
@ Smith 79:
My expectation too. The Palestinians will accept some jewish people as citizens of liberated Palestine eventually, because so many of the zionistanis have nowhere else to go, realistically, and so many of them are native-born Palestinians now; and also - hypotheses about the origins of modern jews notwithstanding - so many of them are Semites too, and living in the lands of their ancestors.
I understand that jewish Iranians are perfectly well treated in their home country, and have no desire to leave it to join the (doomed) zionistan lunacy in Palestine. Anyone with two working braincells could have seen from the beginning that such an evil apartheid project was going to end soon, and badly. It was formally declared when I was 8, and I may yet live to see it "vanish from the page of history" (Ahmedinejad).
Jews have mostly been rather well treated as minorities in Arab-muslim countries (I'm sure there are exceptions, but that seems to be true generally), and once zionistan is abolished, and jews can get back to being sane about their status with 'god' - that's to say: just average humans, nothing the least bit exceptional about them - then I imagine that most of the world's peoples will be able eventually to say: 'Sure, they're my neighbours. Good folk. I believe they follow the jewish religion, but that's their business. They're still perfectly good citizens of [insert country name], just like all the rest of us. Born here. One of us!" I have a number of native-born-Brit jewish friends who live on this understanding, and they have no trouble at all being both Brit and jewish. They have zero desire to get enmeshed in the end-of-zionistan disaster.
When the bulk of the zionistanis have had enough of living in the increasingly hopeless mess that is the zionistan cancer within Palestine, many of them will sober up enough to welcome this projected peaceful outcome: share the land(s), tolerate and indeed welcome the diversity of others, and dump the zionist 'chosen ones' lunacy.
I expect zionistan to go down along with its only real supporters in the world: the gangsters who run the US empire; also on its last legs. And even they support it only for geopolitical reasons. It's not as if most of them have any genuine love for jews, Judaism or zionistan-in-Palestine. "They were useful at the time. It was just business."
Just been looking again at Douglas Conlin's vids of his bike rides around the US, on YT. The steady decrepitation of the public infrastructure which Dougie's camera illustrates is striking, and clearly more advanced than any of the official 'news' output is willing to hint. The Anglozionist empire is now actually within its end-of-USSR moment. Inevitably, it will take it's ziolunacy appendage with it as it collapses.
Posted by: Rhisiart Gwilym | May 14 2021 9:54 utc | 87
Norwegian, Grieved
That does raise an interesting question
If you read the Yinon Plan there is an interesting section that stood out for me:
Rapid changes in the world will also bring about a change in the condition of world Jewry to which Israel will become not only a last resort but the only existential option. We cannot assume that U.S. Jews, and the communities of Europe and Latin America will continue to exist in the present form in the future. 21
If not Israel, then where?
What rapid changes was he referring to?
Posted by: Down South | May 14 2021 10:14 utc | 88
The Yinon plan is meaningless. In reality it is just another zionist propaganda beatup. At least 50% of the citizens of nation states in this world couldn'y give two fucks about any jewish person in their community if they knew the jew wasn't encouraging the butchery of other humans through zionism.
However the occupiers of Palestine and their enablers whinge about anti-semitism, apart from a tiny minority of proven loonies no one else has any problem with Jews, outside of ther likely support of zionism - aka the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.
Once israel the oppressor has been taken off the board jews will be welcome in most nations. The never ending indoctrination via israeli media spread everywhere else through saturday hebrew classes should cease. Then no one would care either way.
Between amerikan exceptionalism and jewish supreme victimhood the world will burn, but if israel ceased to exist and all the idiot zionists who have been pushed into the entirely insupportable 'palestine is ours' fiction WTFU & quit killing Palestine's indigenous population, humans all over this globe would decide "Now these dingbats have quit the externally created nonsense that they have some right to destroy other clans, who gives a fuck? It is totally unlikely that new boy David will be as much hassle to work with or live next door to than the drunkard fuck who was there before."
Posted by: Debsisdead | May 14 2021 10:53 utc | 89
Posted by: Stargazer | May 14 2021 1:48 utc | 45
Really very interesting and enlightening post! Thanks!
Posted by: foolisholdman | May 14 2021 11:08 utc | 90
@Down South | May 14 2021 10:14 utc | 89
I just read the Yinon plan. It was first published in February 1982, probably written a few months before. It criticizes the return of Sinai to Egypt. Remember, Egypt's President Anwar Sadat was assassinated October 1981. Maybe that was the supposed trigger for rapid change.
The central "idea" in that plan was to split the Arab nations into secterian mini-states with no power to resist Zionism. Clearly, the almost 40 years that have passed have not succeeded of making the ambitions in that plan a reality, but it sure looks like they have tried the same again and again ever since, each time expecting a different outcome.
Maybe the outcome will finally be 'different' this time.
Posted by: Norwegian | May 14 2021 11:17 utc | 91
Posted by: Fyi | May 14 2021 4:08 utc | 63
About a week ago I watched a very interesting discussion on (among other things) wokeness, between Gilad Atzmon and another old Jew, in the course of which they produced a wonderful aphorism : "Athens taught us how to think, Jerusalem teaches us what to say."
Posted by: foolisholdman | May 14 2021 11:26 utc | 92
Anon | May 14 2021 5:40 utc | 71
This time, Israel may try to force out the Gazan population entirely. Anything else that leaves the Gazan population intact will only leave intact the problem of two peoples who cannot get along.
Oh Boy! Not just anonymous but devoid of understanding too! How do you "Get along with" a homicidal maniac that has invade your home and told you to "Get out or be killed!"?
Posted by: foolisholdman | May 14 2021 11:41 utc | 93
Didn't read thread comments, but concerning b's post:
Anyone claiming that "Hizbullah Is Ready To Join The Fight" simply has no clue what they are talking about. Hizbullah has always been in the fight because it has always been a target of the ZioNazi terrorists. But Hizbullahs fights it's own fight. This is the key to it's success so far.
Hizbullah's strenght lies in the widely acknowledged FACT that it only defends itself against attack from the ZioNazis.
To my knowledge Hizbullah has never initiated attack on the ZioNazi entity known as Isreal.
Speculation concerning Hizbullah jettisoning it's decades-long doctrine of purely defensive action against the ZioNazi terrorists, and suddenly switching to offensive mode, is simply nonsensical.
In fact I would go so far as to seriously question the motives and agenda of anyone claiming, as b does in the post, that Hizbullah are suddenly about to switch from defensive to pre-emptive/offensive mode.
Posted by: Triden | May 14 2021 12:18 utc | 94
Rapid changes in the world will also bring about a change in the condition of world Jewry to which Israel will become not only a last resort but the only existential option. We cannot assume that U.S. Jews, and the communities of Europe and Latin America will continue to exist in the present form in the future. 21
What rapid changes was he referring to?
Posted by: Down South | May 14 2021 10:14 utc | 89
There is no point in obsessing over these cretin's puerile fantasies. (That's what they are, really.) He is trying to sound deep and like a long term thinker. That's it. It is easy as pie to think up these "long term scenarios" where everything you want just falls in your lap. The defense business runs on that pretty much. So does Hollywood.
It is, for example, quite obvious to anyone who pays attention that tomorrow is going to quite different from today. It's been that way for some time now. It is the condition of modernism.
It's like the McKinder bullshit, or the Geopolitical Trap that China and the USA are supposedly in. It assumes personalities don't matter, and that people have no agency, but they do, and a lot more than some theory too. It was Dick Cheney that got us into Iraq, not some theory, and it was Bibi Netanyahu and his friends who brought the Middle East & Israel to their present condition. Karma is real.
Posted by: Bemildred | May 14 2021 12:29 utc | 95
Hezbollah getting involved would be a massive gift to Netenyahoo as it would give Israel the pre-text to attack Iran and would also kill the JCPOA (which might be dead regardless).
Posted by: schmoe | May 14 2021 12:32 utc | 96
les7 | May 14 2021 6:00 utc | 72
2 weeks ago we read how the neocon plan for Ukraine (combined with Belarus) was supposed to have hatched out on May 9 as well.
Biswapriya Purkayast | May 14 2021 6:06 utc | 73
"Until now Putin has had the luxury of not doing anything remotely useful in response to ziocon plots one at a time."Fixed that for you.
There were quite a number of things that were supposed to happen around that time all of which have come, more or less, unstuck.
An attack by Ukraine on the Donbas Peoples' Republics; was stymied by the Russian build-up on the borders of Ukraine and a warning by Lavrov that such an attack would lead to the possible destruction of Ukraine. Then there was the plotted assassination of Lukashenko, with a color revolution in Minsk, unpicked by the FSB and the Bielorussian KGB.
The deployment of the US Navy to the Black Sea, which was called off, because the attack on Donbas, that it was supposed to support was called off.
All of this activity was supposed to be supported by a very large NATO force "exercising" in eastern Europe. Much ado for not much, as it turned out. I think there were also provocations that were planned to happen in South Ossetia and Abkhazia and Moldova and possibly something in the SCS at the same time.
How far this is a record of US plans thwarted and how far it is a concatenation of random events, I cannot say for sure, but it does not reflect as badly on Putin as you make out.
Posted by: foolisholdman | May 14 2021 12:32 utc | 97
The ZioNazis would like nothing more than to drag Hizbullah into this fight right now.
That way the ZioNazi terrorist state of Israel could claim then that it is under attack from Iran. And could then attempt to drag the US into this conflict which it, and it alone, bears full responsibility for.
Keep that in mind when you read someone telling you that Hizbullah has decided to jettison its decades long doctrine of defensive action in favour of offensive action
Posted by: Triden | May 14 2021 12:38 utc | 98
I don't see any 4D chess in this but Bibi trying to use war to save his own hide, 4 elections and he still can't secure a clear victory.
This is do or die for him.
Posted by: Smith | May 14 2021 12:44 utc | 99
MarkU | May 14 2021 8:25 utc | 82
Something odd seems to be happening with comment numbers, is this website being interfered with? People are responding to comments but the comment number alluded to doesn't correspond.
This has been going on for ever. I think what happens is that b deletes some posts and all the numbers above the deleted post diminish by one. this, of course, makes all the numbers referred to, wrong. That is why I always give the time of a post as well as the serial number. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Posted by: foolisholdman | May 14 2021 12:48 utc | 100
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If Hizbullah join the find, don't we have a war with Iran, can they keep it at bay, can US hold the weak presence in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan are US planners retarded?
Posted by: svaya | May 13 2021 19:21 utc | 1