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April 20, 2021

Xi's Boao Forum Speech And The Messed Up Reporting Around It

A Reuters piece about a speech held by China's President Xi Jinping reveals how 'western' reporting skew the view of global issues:

China's Xi calls for fairer world order as rivalry with U.S. deepens

BOAO, China (Reuters) - Chinese President Xi Jinping on Tuesday called for a rejection of hegemonic power structures in global governance, amid growing tensions between Washington and Beijing over a widening range of issues including alleged human rights abuses.

Speaking at the annual Boao Forum for Asia, Xi criticised efforts by some countries to "build barriers" and "decouple", which he said would harm others and benefit no one.

China has long called for reforms of the global governance system to better reflect a more diverse range of perspectives and values from the international community, including its own, instead of those of a few major nations.

The bolted sentence is wrong. China has not called 'for reforms of the global governance system' but for a return to the existing global governance system that the 'west' over the last years tended to ignore.

Here is the relevant section of his speech (emphasis added):

- We need consultation on an equal footing to create a future of shared benefits. Global governance should reflect the evolving political and economic landscape in the world, conform to the historical trend of peace, development and win-win cooperation, and meet the practical needs in addressing global challenges. We need to follow the principles of extensive consultation, joint contribution and shared benefits, uphold true multilateralism, and make the global governance system more fair and equitable. We need to safeguard the UN-centered international system, preserve the international order underpinned by international law, and uphold the multilateral trading system with the World Trade Organization at its core. World affairs should be handled through extensive consultation, and the future of the world should be decided by all countries working together.

To 'safeguard', 'preserve' and 'uphold' existing laws and organizations is not a 'call for reform' of the global governance system but a call for a return to its foundations which were set after the second world war. The Reuters writer pretends, like some 'western' politicians, that those foundations no longer exist.

The Reuters piece continues:

[China] has also repeatedly clashed with the biggest stakeholders in world governance, particularly the United States, over a range of issues from human rights to China's economic influence over other countries.

"The world wants justice, not hegemony," Xi said in remarks broadcast to the forum.

"A big country should look like a big country by showing that it is shouldering more responsibility," he said.

While Xi did not identify any country in his remarks, Chinese officials have in recent times referred to U.S. "hegemony" in public criticisms of Washington's global projection of power in trade and geopolitics.

Who please are 'the biggest stakeholders in world governance'? While the U.S. might be a 'big stakeholder' China is by population size and economic power a way bigger one. And who are the other 'biggest' besides the U.S.? India and Russia may come to mind but both have offered the same critic about a 'western' centric system as China does.

The above Reuters snippet also leaves out the most central quote from Xi's speech (emphasis added):

We must not let the rules set by one or a few countries be imposed on others, or allow unilateralism pursued by certain countries to set the pace for the whole world. What we need in today’s world is justice, not hegemony. Big countries should behave in a manner befitting their status and with a greater sense of responsibility. We must not let the rules set by one or a few countries be imposed on others, or allow unilateralism pursued by certain countries to set the pace for the whole world. What we need in today’s world is justice, not hegemony. Big countries should behave in a manner befitting their status and with a greater sense of responsibility.

Reuters also includes this slight:

As the Biden administration rallies other democratic allies to harden their stance on China, Beijing is seeking to strengthen ties with its autocratic partners and economically dependent neighbours in Southeast Asia.

It is a rhetoric trick to put the U.S. into the corner of 'democracy' and to associate China with 'autocratic partners'.

For one - many of the U.S. 'partners', especially in the Middle East, are 'autocratic' ones or even worse. China itself is a democracy:

Elections in China are based on a hierarchical electoral system, whereby local People's Congresses are directly elected. All higher levels of People's Congresses up to the National People's Congress (NPC), the national legislature, are indirectly elected by the People's Congress of the level immediately below.

The Boao forum is not Chinese, it is an international one. It was initiated by former leaders of the Philippines, Australia and Japan - all three democracies. The 26 founding countries of 'Asia's answer to Davos' are mostly democracies.

In his speech Xi Jinping lists democracy as a 'common value of humanity':

We must advocate peace, development, equity, justice, democracy and freedom, which are common values of humanity, and encourage exchanges and mutual learning among civilizations to promote the progress of human civilization.

To purpose of the Boao forum is not to peddle to autocrats. Unless of course one counts the high profile U.S. businessmen who are taking part as such:

A slew of U.S. business leaders will be participating in the conference, including Apple Inc.’s Tim Cook, Tesla Inc.’s Elon Musk, Blackstone Group Inc’s Stephen Schwarzman and Bridgewater Associates’ Ray Dalio.

To sum up: The Reuters piece about Xi's speech at Boao is framed with a 'western' mindset and colored by 'western' hegemonic ideology. It leaves out the essence of the speech then adds bits that make the reader assume that the high level international event is a solely Chinese one, thereby disturbing its context.

It does not inform but propagandizes.

Posted by b on April 20, 2021 at 16:21 UTC | Permalink

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Well, the EU has warned us today that 150,000 Russian troops are at the Ukrainian border

Can find many links through a search. Here is one. This was posted 23 hours ago.

European Union estimates 150,000 Russian troops amassed near Ukraine’s borders

Other posts have the count also at 150,000 but euronews.com has 100,000

Is this old news? Is this pressure from the US?

Posted by: Don Midwest | Apr 20 2021 16:46 utc | 1

Don Midwest @ 1

Zerohedge has an article about how those numbers are wrong:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/eu-walks-back-embarrassing-claim-150000-russian-troops-near-ukraine-border

Posted by: Donbass Lives Matter | Apr 20 2021 16:49 utc | 2

WHAT WILL PUTIN SAY?

Russian President Vladimir Putin will deliver his annual address to Russia’s Federal Assembly on April 21. In the speech he is expected to make legislative proposals that will require approval in an extra session of the Duma to be held on April 22th. This is my speculation on what Putin may propose:

  1. Ukraine has unilaterally withdrawn from the Minsk Agreements. Russia is therefore free to act on its own.
  2. Putin asks the Duma to recognize the independence of the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics.
  3. Putin asks the Duma for approval to the use of Russian armed forces outside Russia.
  4. Putin may ask that the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics be allowed to join the Russian Federation, or possibly the Union State along with Belarus. If this happens, it would be pending referendums, that would likely take place on Republic Day, on May 10th and May 11th in Lugansk and Donetsk respectively.
  5. Putin may also announce changes to the structure of the Union State with Belarus.

After parliamentary approval Russian troops will march into Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics. Ceremonies will take place at the border posts, with military bands and foreign news crews present. The earliest time for the ceremony is noon on April 22nd. All of the above will happen without single shot fired.

What Putin fails to mention is that the claimed territory of the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics extends to the total territory of the former Donetsk and Lugansk Oblasts. Russia will demand that Ukrainian troops immediately leave the occupied areas. If Ukrainians comply, Russian influence may be limited to Donetsk and Lugansk. If Ukraine attacks, then Russia may extend military operations to western Ukraine.

On the other hand, Putin may simply talk about pension reform.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 20 2021 17:00 utc | 3

I guess it is only fitting that following a piece like this a driveby barfly will post an OT comment like Don Midwest did....grin

Soon Reuters is going to charge you for the privilege of being lied to...a self-licking ice cream cone of immorality.

Is the greater public ever going to get a clear view of the difference behind the "rules based order" of the West (we own the money system and make the rules) and the negotiated International law based order?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 20 2021 17:05 utc | 4

Donbass Lives Matter @2

Thanks for the quick response and the link. Even on the regular web I suspected something amiss with the different numbers of 150K and 100K. Zerohedge has many different numbers and points out that this whole thing may be nothing out of the ordinary.

The story appeared from AP in the Columbus Dispatch this morning. I pointed out to my wife that might be part of the anti Russia propaganda. She believes what was in the AP article. I will print off the Zerohedge article to see if that is convincing to her.

Posted by: Don Must | Apr 20 2021 17:06 utc | 5

spelling error

Don Must is really me, Don Midwest

Posted by: Don Midwest | Apr 20 2021 17:07 utc | 6

And now Reuters is going behind a very expensive paywall.

So who needs it? The UK Infowarriors.

Like BBC and AFP, they are the production arm of FakeNews, Inc. They work for their Special Services and Foreign Ministries. Their connection to journalism and a Free Press are mythological.

Posted by: Red Ryder | Apr 20 2021 17:16 utc | 7

ein dreifaches Hoch auf den Sieger!
Bernhard, you can peel their propaganda better and faster than I can peel lobster.

Mojitos for everyone!
"c'est ma tournée"
Con cantar de Carlos Puebla
https://youtu.be/sGlEvnY7oBc

Posted by: Bernard F. | Apr 20 2021 17:25 utc | 8

thanks b.. there is no reaching out to Kevin Yao the journalist or propagandist who wrote this....

seems to me ksa, that 'rules based' country, a part of usa-uk sphere, like to make their own rules when it comes to murdering off dissidents like kashoggi... and as @ alaff mentioned in the previous thread, the west ain't too shabby either when it comes to murdering or trying to knock off leaders who they don't agree with, or who aren't functioning properly within these same 'rules based' perimeters.... trying to take out belarus leader Alexander Lukashenk was only the latest.... so, i could see some world leaders being uncomfortable with this new (lawfare?) concept of the 'rules based order'... apparently Kevin Yao is incapable or unwilling to consider this..


Posted by: james | Apr 20 2021 17:41 utc | 9

when will it end I read a template story about Iran from the NYT but it could have been written for Syria, Venezuela, N.Korea, Cuba ...

part 1: Iran is suffering from mismanagement and corruption blah-blah-blah ...

part 2: Sanctions part are always mentioned as if lifting them is a gift or a bailout to these corrupt regimes rather than an act of war against the civilian population of those countries.

I am so tired of this BS.

Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Apr 20 2021 18:09 utc | 10

Dan Cohen has a very good interview with a young Chinese man about Xinjiang. The man is half Mongolian (mom), half Han, born in 1986 in Xinjiang, lives in Beijing but talks often to friends and relatives back home; gives his take on some history, his growing up years, schooling, and then the current smears and fairy tales about genocide, cotton, etc. I learned a lot

https://www.mintpressnews.com/xinjiang-native-speaks-western-media-jeopardizing-uyghurs-interests/276765/

Posted by: migueljose | Apr 20 2021 18:24 utc | 11

Yep. China-bashing is here to stay for the foreseeable future. ABC.net.au is repeating all the fact-free slurs against China and Russia in its World This Week tosh-fest.
Yesterday, 4 Corners broadcast a BBC Mockumentary Junkumentary about China's Covid cover-up called "54 Days: China & The Pandemic". It was somewhat balanced by a scathing reminder from China that the West is trying to blame China for its own negligence, incompetence and deafness. Funnily enough, Scum Mo has demoted Oz's Chief Medical Officer (the bloke who praised "China's decisive action" at the beginning of the Covid outbreak in Wuhan) with a Right-wing Crank who feels China's Covid strategy falls short of perfection (my words, not his).
The main flaw in "54 Days" is that nobody at BBC bothered to watch it before it was approved for broadcast. They obviously fell deeply In Love with it before it was finished. It is liberally sprinkled with "likely" from beginning to end and relies ALMOST ENTIRELY on HINDSIGHT to reach its 'conclusions'. BBC says (in April, 2021) that 54 Days is the result of 12 months of investigation. One amusing aspect of the junkumentary was that EVERY 'CHINESE' individual was a labeled member of a US Think Tank or bullshit factory such a CFR, so maybe BBC was under duress from the Assholians?

A similar anti-China fiasco emerged during last week's ABC.net.au Q & A which devoted its last 25 minutes to Oz's trade relationship with China. It was introduced with a question from a young graduate of the Greta Garbo School for Wayward Boys & Girls. He was already in an emotional lather when he stood up to castigate China for torturing Uighur Slaves, and subjecting them to forced abortion and forced sterilisation etc sourced, Ahem, from that Tabernacle of Truthiness the BBC!

Anyway, it was slithering along quite hysterically until a young bloke stood up and asked why no-one wants to talk about China virtually eliminating poverty, and a few other praiseworthy achievements absent from Western Homeland policies. And then whilst the bashers were digesting those assertions, a young Oz entrepreneur pointed out that he couldn't get research funding from Oz.gov or Biz for his new concept and asked China.gov if they were interested in helping commercialise it? China.gov had a look and a listen and said Yes We Can! Come on over!

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 20 2021 18:26 utc | 12

Don Midwest | Apr 20 2021 16:46 utc | 1

The difference probably came from Borell (EU) who mentioned 100'000+ (plus) Russians, and then his office rewrote the transcript and made it 150'000.

Shows you just what accurate reporting has to contend with ! I don't know the accurate figure but it is likely no one else does either. Definitely not Reuters.

*******

b's post about Xi. I think the US "Washingtoneers" are simply deaf. Their cognitive dissonance does not allow any new idea to enter, as it might reduce their "backhanders" from the military/industrial complex as well. Can't afford that. They don't all have Biden as Godfather.......eeerrr, or just "father".

As has been pointed out - the Chinese and Russians are almost helping the US to reduce its' hegemonic footprint. A disastrous sudden collapse could make life difficult for all. Even a collapse of the dollar is not on the immediate cards - reduction yes, in a world where other currencies have rights as well. Xi has (if I am not mistaken) said that they do not have the wish to make the Yuan "the" reserve currency. Just one of a bunch.

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An idea of what the Russians will do in Ukraine, is to play Zelensky and the others like a fish on a line. Panic here.... send tanks..... panic there.....send tanks back again ......panic again.....
If I was a stock market speculator I should have invested in Railways.

****

Blinken' cowboy talks with forked tongue.....
- he cut it when he used knife for eating".

I eat my peas with honey
I've done it all my life
it makes the peas taste funny
- but it keeps thm on the knife.

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 20 2021 18:58 utc | 13

Good quality post. The rest of the world really ought to seek to the most fundamental rights of all in international governance: sovereignty. Without sovereignty, a nation and a people has nothing.

Just look at the “Russian interference” scare. What if the vaunted American democracy if it has been subverted ... if the election has been tampered, bought, manipulated, whatever ...

We must demand a fair, multilateral system based on mutual respect and sovereignty.

It is the only way for a multicultural world to thrive.

Posted by: Allen | Apr 20 2021 18:59 utc | 14

https://twitter.com/US_Stratcom/status/1384343498825027584
What do you think about this hallucinating tweet:

T
US Strategic Command
@US_Stratcom
#USSTRATCOM Posture Statement Preview: The spectrum of conflict today is neither linear nor predictable. We must account for the possibility of conflict leading to conditions which could very rapidly drive an adversary to consider nuclear use as their least bad option.
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Posted by: Ed Crown | Apr 20 2021 19:07 utc | 15

in my opinion(quite small) russia Iran and China and especially Russia and China policies are now running in parallel which is you cannot straddle both sides and as Xi put it bully people around based on that alone.

what I am waiting for is India to link up with SCO.

and I believe it will eventually, not because it is in Asia but because when the silk road sprawls out and misses India then maybe it will look at the realities of mistaking sticks for carrots. then the self reliance of Asia on all fronts is too great an order for the current coalition of the willing, even if it color revolutions were to take over Africa, mid East, and Latin America completely. (which it cant but might try to with mid east). regardless, again these are all written as wars and rumors of wars. and I for one am not pro or against multipolar or unilateral as I think all system as long as a human is behind it will eventually break down and turn to shet in the end.

Posted by: jason | Apr 20 2021 19:28 utc | 16

@ Ed Crown | Apr 20 2021 19:07 utc | 15 with the US_Stratcom quote
"
We must account for the possibility of conflict leading to conditions which could very rapidly drive an adversary to consider nuclear use as their least bad option.
"

This is called projection and empire is good at it......until they are not, and I think we may be there.

Its bluff calling time, I think I love you........some words to a song flitting through my head....


The kindest collapse is the cessation of US Treasury purchase by many nations around the world so that empire gets the message the gig is up and time to settle your derivative debtmegeddeon for not spending time in prison....or worse.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 20 2021 19:29 utc | 17

b said; "It is a rhetoric trick to put the U.S. into the corner of 'democracy' and to associate China with 'autocratic partners'."

Exactly right b. That's why I go ballistic every time some here abuse the word "liberal", by tying it to people and policies that are anything but "liberal".

Neoliberal policies are miles away from anything "liberal." Tricks with words, are still tricks, as b's above quote proves..

Posted by: vetinLA | Apr 20 2021 19:39 utc | 18

i guess that post is going to show up on every thread now for how many threads?? show b make it a special post in some special way?? jesus help me here..

Posted by: james | Apr 20 2021 20:16 utc | 19

"...To 'safeguard', 'preserve' and 'uphold' existing laws and organizations is not a 'call for reform' of the global governance system but a call for a return to its foundations which were set after the second world war."

To say it again, the UN is not what it's imagined to be. There is a General Assembly, but it is largely for talking-shop purposes, a kind of stock where shares in the diplomacy of weak governments are conveniently bartered. The real power is in the Security Council. But the membership of the Security Council is not equal, not even in principle. The real principle is that the five permanent members can paralyze the body at will *and* that each permanent member is to have a free hand. The United-ness of the UN in that sense was indeed always multipolar. But it was never meant that their all actions of the permanent members had to be legitimated by the Security Council. You may protest this is inconsistent, but the UN was a victors' alliance of sorts, not an endorsement in real politics of the equality and sovereignty of nations. The UN is so to speak the imperialist popular front, where the workers' states were to support imperialism, just as in Popular Front within a single nation, the workers' parties were to support the rule of the bourgeoisie. Popular Fronts do not end well. Neither did the UN. Harking back to an imaginary, no, falsified, version helps no one.

And of course, the real joke if for China to call for such a return. In the system established after WWII, the Taiwan government is the permanent member! If anyone is returning to the post-WWII system it is those in the US who want to tear away Taiwan!

Posted by: steven t johnson | Apr 20 2021 20:35 utc | 20

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 20 2021 17:00 utc | 3

WHAT WILL PUTIN SAY?

Moskovskij Komsomolets speculates on Putin's speech and the "emergency" meeting of the Federation Council scheduled for April 23rd.

Zyuganov before an emergency meeting of the Federation Council allowed the introduction of troops into Donbass - MK.RU, April 20, 2021

Earlier, the head of the Federation Council, Valentina Matvienko, announced a meeting of the upper house of parliament for April 23, explaining that the instructions given by Russian President Vladimir Putin on April 21 during the announcement of the message would require "quick implementation."

[Boris] Vishnevsky explained that the Federation Council has only three operational powers - approval of a presidential decree on the introduction of martial law; approval of the presidential decree on the introduction of a state of emergency; resolving the issue of the possibility of using the Armed Forces outside the territory of the Russian Federation.

Note that Zyuganov demands that the Federation Council does exactly what I suggested Putin will ask it to do; officially recognize the DPR and LPR and send in troops.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 20 2021 21:09 utc | 21

@15 Ed Crown

"...conflict leading to conditions..." makes the interpretation wide open. Strictly speaking it's true, since it is always true. No obvious relationship to the current situation, unless NATO plans to use tac nukes, which they don't particularly plan on doing. Except again, they do have such plans, in the general sense, because their job is to have every kind of plan.

In other words, someone PR flack wants a promotion and is stirring the pot a bit so they can bump their performance metrics for views or retweets or whatever... and the 140 character format gives them an excuse to say dumb s##t like this with no context. But that's twitter for ya.

Posted by: ptb | Apr 20 2021 21:58 utc | 22

Vet in LA,

I agree with you. First there was neocon, then came neoliberal.

I guessed that these two words to mean new conservative and new liberal whatever that was supposed to mean.

Posted by: arby | Apr 20 2021 22:25 utc | 23

[China] has also repeatedly clashed with the biggest stakeholders in world governance

What a strange way of saying “the United States.”

In addition to misreporting the facts, the MSM has also turned to using wordy and awkward, not to mention grating, language. Widespread, practically hegemonic, use of convoluted terms and euphemisms is yet another product of the west’s degraded neoliberal university system.

Posted by: Antibody | Apr 20 2021 22:46 utc | 24

Great New:
Blinken Anchoraged by Berlin


Germany supports Nord Stream 2 regardless of other EU states’ view, says Merkel
https://tass.com/economy/1280613

Still at work, nightshift, no time to find link.
Please Help

Posted by: Bernard F. | Apr 20 2021 22:57 utc | 25

President, Putin, let them see the other side of you: Terrorize them in such a manner that the fear of Dante´s hell should hunt them from now on.

Posted by: nietzsche1510 | Apr 20 2021 23:12 utc | 26

The USG and mass media were taken over by the MIC/Israel/1%/Biz/WallSt factions after WWII, and now is a gang operation where elections, appointments, and judiciary derive from and seek only bribes. Its strategy consists of corruption, theft, threats, and genocide to get those bribes.

The US is a primitive tribalist tyranny: tyrants always pretend that the tribe is all good, and that all evil comes from outside, and must have an invisible monster so that they can pose as defenders of the tribe and accuse their opponents of disloyalty. Russia served as UK’s monster for centuries without causing any problems for UK, and communism served so well as the invisible monster for rich US tyrants, that they cannot let Russia and China go.

Were it not tragic, the best joke in history would be the US falling into the Brzezinski trap it set for the USSR in AfPak. And better yet that seems too foolish to simply walk right out of the trap. But quagmires serve its purposes.

Conflict is indeed the business of “DC sociopaths” (Donbass Lives Matter) seeking feudalism (vetinLA) so Russophobia is a “very durable policy” (oldhippie). The US “unelected, unaccountable government” (jared) “seized and held” (alaff) power as an “self-enrichment system” (powerandpeople) and learns only to get bribes without “personal nor professional consequences” (Feral Finster), so they “don't listen to anyone” (Stonebird) and simply feed the people “bogeymen vs. Marvel superheroes” (Patroklos).

But the kleptocracy moves toward smaller conflicts (drones, murders), economic/bio warfare, saber-rattling, and mere bluster. Its moral, logical, and financial bankruptcy will eventually turn its rich tyrants inward to economic slavery.

Posted by: Sam F | Apr 20 2021 23:15 utc | 27

It seems critical enough to the imperial liberal establishment to sell the empire's aggression against Russia and China that they pull their King Donkey Rear .org persona out of the dumpster. Note that you can detect the liberal establishment's real thoughts leaking past their narrative: "...Putin will not intervene militarily...". While the rest of the establishment narrative is nonsense, this part is important as it signals their intention to push past Russia and China's red lines. They are convinced that the Russians and Chinese will fold and kneel to the empire if the empire just leans on them hard enough. After all, that is how Reagan beat the Soviet Union, right? Or at least that is what they believe.

It is because of this delusion that the empire holds dear that war is inevitable.

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 21 2021 0:08 utc | 29

@ Posted by: King Lear | Apr 21 2021 1:15 utc | 31

That is what I like to call the "A-" theory, which states that, albeit the American Empire is bad, all the alternatives are much worse (they are Cs at best; Ds and Fs more commonly), so, end of the day, it's better to fight on the side of the USA in order to crush the rising alternatives. In other words, the USA is not an "A+" nation, but it is still an "A-" and, well, you don't ground your child for having an A- in its math test, do you? You work for it to get better and maybe get that A+, but you know it's still very good - and you sure know it is extremely better than your neighbor's kid who got an F.

In my opinion, this is merely a sophistication of the Manifest Destiny/American Exceptionalism ideology. It is not true by most objective socio-economic metrics, it is not dialectical (for example: Latin America is poor because the USA keeps it that way, it isn't an "F" because it wants to, but because the American Empire frauds its tests so it will always get an "F") and it isn't constructive.

Posted by: vk | Apr 21 2021 2:23 utc | 30

Posted by: vk | Apr 21 2021 2:23 utc | 34

True, this narrative is very disingenuous. Claiming that every state is just an offshoot of the USA and that they are all complicit in its imperialism shows the lack of knowledge and willingness to admit that USA is exceptional in all but of its delusion and perchance to do evil abroad in the world. Even in admitting its own vice and sins, America Exceptionalism still portray itself as a saint among robber!

Anyone who do geopolitical analysis like King Lear should ashamed of themselves.

Posted by: Hangar | Apr 21 2021 3:37 utc | 31

A political system with a single man on top who gets elected to his office for lifetime by some kind of council or assembly is calles an "elective monarchy".

Posted by: m | Apr 21 2021 4:14 utc | 32

May I be the first to claim 1,500,000 Russian soldiers on the Russian border. After all, these claim come from the same sh**s who printed US$10T in the last 12 months and divided it up between themselves and threw a few bones to the sheeple. Why not hyperinflation of soldiers together with hyperinflation of money? A trillion here a trillion there and soon you start talking about real money and a real war.

Posted by: Kiza | Apr 21 2021 5:00 utc | 33

I think Reuters decision to go behind a paywall is excellent.

It should definitely reduce their readership.

BTW there is an excellent translation app called "DeepL"

I haven't tried it on "Simplified Chinese" but it does Russian very well.

(This is not a commercial for DeepL. I have no connection to them except use of their excellent app ... FREE for OSx)

Posted by: robert | Apr 21 2021 5:02 utc | 34

Chinese leaders love the WTO because there their country get developing nation privileges till today - legally.
Same for the Paris climate treaty: ridiculously favorable for China - but legally done.
The UN Security Council is also a Chinese favorite: only 5 members are permanent and they are in: some animals are more equal than others. The UK in, India out - ridiculous!

Posted by: Antonym | Apr 21 2021 5:46 utc | 35

Let's see if they will reaktivate donkey tail, circle and some more of the old distraction gang

Posted by: Kartoschka | Apr 21 2021 6:02 utc | 36

Morning brief:

Event of the day, at noon Moscow time, Putin address to the Federal Assembly.

Delaware senator Sarah McBride announces support for Navalny’s widow…

Lithuanian FM suggests a “humanitarian mission” for Navalny to be medically treated in Europe.

Tsar Aleksandr III once said that Russia has only two allies, its army and its fleet, Rozhin says that according to Bismarck Russia has only two allies, Petroff&Boshiroff®

An eventful day for everyone.

https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/and_ekb/68526558/400257/400257_original.jpg

Posted by: Paco | Apr 21 2021 6:55 utc | 37

@36 m

Would it not be more like the late rebublik of Rome?
With "elected" tyranns?

@38 robert
Thanks for the app tipp

@41 aquadraht
Caitlin is spot on.
It's the last resort of the brainwashed. After an hour of discussion they will just wish all your arguments away with "but ze Russians/chinese/insert foe do it too"

I'm really worried about the mental state of the whole nation.

I have just got contact with someone from kasachstan.
Looking forward to get some insight into the "casual" mind of people from this part of the world.

Posted by: Kartoschka | Apr 21 2021 7:03 utc | 38

I think you're overthinking it, bro. "BOAO" sounds Chinese to American ears, so the "journalist" just assumed it was.

Posted by: Sam | Apr 21 2021 7:07 utc | 39

The Search (updated): My search for the most humane, ethical and peaceloving country on this earth. In the final five I listed are the UK, Israel, USA, France and Ukraine.
Obviously not New Zealand, Australia, China, Iran and Switzerland due to their abuse of their native populations. Ancient history also eliminated Greece and Italy. This is the updated version. https://youtu.be/2rZCjvMiuHo

Posted by: John Hagan | Apr 21 2021 7:21 utc | 40

ABC's Sc0 Mo-induced schizophrenia was front and centre on today's ABC-sponsored National Press Club Address. The topic was a book co-edited by Prof Jane Gottey called China Story Yearbook. NPC called the prof's speech "China Crisis." She feels that Oz & The West are making more mistakes than China in the current china syndrome beat-up.

One of the people attending the address was Wang Xining, Deputy Head of Mission from the Chinese Embassy in Oz. After Prof Gottey finished her address Wang was invited to comment which he did by saying "It's a very thick book and I shared the burden of reading it with a colleague." He described it as thoughtful and well-researched whilst declaring that he didn't agree with everything in it. He then touched on the Covid fiasco and post-Covid economic recovery, pointing out that China's Q4 2020 growth topped 18%.

Then he moved on to Chinese Culture, reminding the audience that 2020 was China's Year of the Rat and 2021 is the Year of the Ox. Chinese see themselves as hard-working Oxen - strong, diligent, hardworking, and able to plough through difficulties - but NOT as cows to be milked and slaughtered in the end. He hailed the 50th Anniversary of Gough Whitlam's China visit which laid the foundations for Oz-Cn cooperation. Latching onto the Crisis element he cited Churchill's "Never let a crisis go to waste" in the spirit that, with a bit of luck, on the other side of a crisis Nirvana awaits.
He left the impression that China, in some ways, enjoys hearing Western bullshit almost as much as the bullshitters enjoy believing it.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 21 2021 7:22 utc | 41

Paco | Apr 21 2021 6:55 utc | 42

Event of the day, at noon Moscow time, Putin address to the Federal Assembly.

Anyone knows if this will be available live with translation somewhere?

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 21 2021 7:43 utc | 42

Firstly, pity us in the Republic of South Africa. All our radio and print media information about the outside world comes either from Reuters (the bulk of it), the BBC (some radio) and the Washington Post. Some South Africans get to watch al-Jazeera on TV, but after watching it for a few days this month I conclude it's not wildly different from all the rest.

Secondly, regarding the whole "everybody is a capitalist state and must be fought against", that's not a bad plan so long as you are in control of a superpower; if not, what the hell are you going to do? By the way, it's not at all a Maoist notion -- Mao outsourced China's foreign policy to Nixon's USA.

If you want to be a Marxist you have to understand the global correlation of forces and the extent to which each government represents the executive committee of the bourgeoisie. But that would require some serious knowledge -- much easier to sit on your backside and denounce everybody who's actually trying to do anything. We had lots of people like that in South Africa under the Struggle, and a lot of them eventually turned out to be working, wittingly or unwittingly, for the secret police.

Posted by: MFB | Apr 21 2021 7:45 utc | 43

An interesting outlook on the prospects of world trade, payment systems, and the dollar:
https://asiatimes.com/2021/04/chinas-digital-yuan-displaces-the-dollar/

Posted by: aquadraht | Apr 21 2021 7:46 utc | 44

@ 43 Kartoschka
What rather comes to my mind is Imperial China. The CCP is today a rahter apolitical meritocratic bureaucratic organisation similar to the "Confucian" bureaucracies that had been administrating China for centuries. The Chinese had for several decades a system where the top leadership would step down and be replaced every ten years before they a few years ago switched to the current system of a leader for lifetime (Xi). The reason seems to be that several members of the highest echelons had been shown to be corrupt. In order to keep the bureaucracy in check there has to be somebody who stands outside of the bureaucracy. That is the emperor. (Who today instead of having a traditional Chinese title carries the Western-loaned, modern-sounding title of "president".)

Posted by: m | Apr 21 2021 7:49 utc | 45

Thanks b and great analysis.

IMO Reuters is fake news, not at the same screaming fake pitch as CNN (Convenient Neocon News) but fake news with a appealing make up on its face.

They are just another brick in the wall.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 21 2021 8:00 utc | 46

Sam #45


I think you're overthinking it, bro. "BOAO" sounds Chinese to American ears, so the "journalist" just assumed it was.


Journalists are paid and expected to investigate, read up on the source material, research the nature of the conference and get it correct...

'assuming' is work that is usually delegated to idiots and there is no pay involved.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 21 2021 8:13 utc | 47

OT: I like and have used DeepL but be careful and try to have some grasp of what is being translated (this applies to humans as well, they can also fail) because in the end the machine translation does not understand anything or any meaning and can quickly turn things into nonsense, errors, and lies.

It can be as bad as creating opposite meanings or adding or removing words. It almost always loses nuance and sometimes the entire intended meaning by picking the most widespread use of a word or forcing a vague translation into the structure its data/score decides is the most closely related sentence.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 21 2021 8:22 utc | 48

@Norwegian | Apr 21 2021 7:43 utc | 48

Anyone knows if this will be available live with translation somewhere?

I found Rossia-1 has this live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQRNfxYpzKQ

But it is probably only in russian, which I don't understand...

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 21 2021 9:02 utc | 49

Ok, this one from Ruptlylooks like it is in English

LIVE: Putin delivers annual address to Federal Assembly (ENGLISH)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWFhDcrzUas

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 21 2021 9:04 utc | 50

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 21 2021 7:43 utc | 48

Try this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYKsRaUmAdY

Posted by: Paco | Apr 21 2021 9:07 utc | 51

b

The bolted sentence is wrong.
Yes it is wrong! Maybe just a typo, but the correct word is "bolded". I.e. "made bolder". "Bolted" is a word meaning "fastened with a bolt or bolts". In German printing terminology, bolded = fett.

Posted by: foolisholdman | Apr 21 2021 9:45 utc | 52

uncle tungsten | Apr 21 2021 8:13 utc | 53

Journalists are paid and expected to investigate, read up on the source material, research the nature of the conference and get it correct...

What you are describing there is a critically-endangered species. If it isn't on the Red List, it should be. Most so-called journalists seem to get their material straight from the FO, the WH, the State Department or the Integrity Initiative. They don't even seem to edit it for typos or bother to rewrite it. You can see the exact same article in all sorts of different outlets; Yahoo, Reuters, AP, AFP, France24, DW, Daily Mail, Quartz, NYT, etc., etc. The Daily Express is a little different, in that it does rewrite, at least the headlines, to make them extra scary!

Posted by: foolisholdman | Apr 21 2021 11:06 utc | 53

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 21 2021 9:04 utc | 57

Local issues, but it if funny to watch the reaction of our national "paper of reference", he did not annex anything they say, they were expecting something radical about Donbass, they do not know Vlad, the hit will come when nobody expects it.

Posted by: Paco | Apr 21 2021 11:44 utc | 54

Dear "m" ;

You write:

"That is the emperor. (Who today instead of having a traditional Chinese title carries the Western-loaned, modern-sounding title of "president".)"

This etymology is wrong: The Chinese term is "zhŭxí" (主席) where "zhŭ" means 'main' or ruler of..", and "xí" means not 'seat' but 'sitting mat'. So the term must have been used at the time before the Chinese sat on chairs. Maybe a small pint, but it points out for us that the term was used in China long before the concept of 'presidentship' arose in Western Europe or in North america.

Posted by: Tollef Ås/秋涛乐 | Apr 21 2021 12:01 utc | 55

>>John Hagan | Apr 21 2021 7:21 utc | 46<<

I give your satire a 'B'.
1. A - for effectiveness, the viewer gets the point you are making quickly
2. A - for choice of music, I just love Chopin, I believe that was one of his Etudes.
3. F - visual imagery, too disturbing, I wish I could un-see it but it's why you get an 'A' on point 1.

But that's just my opinion. Great effort. :-)

Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Apr 21 2021 12:01 utc | 56

King Lear wrote of:

"evidence that China is a Imperialist power fully integrated into the Global Imperialist-Capitalist System."

Yes that is true, but if it were not true - if China had refused to play the game they would have been isolated and limited in what they could do.

IMO, the real reason for the current China bashing is explained by this article:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-economy-fdi/china-was-largest-recipient-of-fdi-in-2020-report-idUSKBN29T0TC

For many decades the US has been able to maintain a trade imbalance because that money that flows out flows back to the US as capital investment. US military hegemony is all about maintaining directing those flows. China is now threatening the US as the main destination for investment.


Posted by: jinn | Apr 21 2021 12:07 utc | 57

@ 22, 30, 31, 32, 34, 35, 37, 39, 41, 55

I think the underlying philosophies vary according to the time, the cultural history of the place, and the source of the chaos that brings about the need for an organizing theory.. But the people of the world are dealing with a structural constraint on their independence and freedom as strong as if it were a prison made of steel. That structure is the globalized armed nation state system. Call it capitalism, Maoism. Marxist-Leninist state, centrally planned economy, socialism or whatever you like, but the fact remains the structure is the nation state, localized by franchise to the time, place and culture. The Oligarchs have discovered they can use that law making armed structure to make into pulp, vaporized into water, or mush into putty or whatever is appropriate for the time and place those who are the governed under the nation state.

The enemy to human independence and human rights is the nation state system. No doubt about it. It gives the Oligarchs the only tool they need to always be the winner in any contest between their economic gain objectives and human rights and social dignity. The nation state denies everyone their right to self determination.

Posted by: snake | Apr 21 2021 12:10 utc | 58

Bolted" is a word meaning "fastened with a bolt or bolts". In German printing terminology, bolded = fett.
Posted by: foolisholdman | Apr 21 2021 9:45 utc | 59

There is another meaning, a horse can bolt, and then the bolted horse is in a wrong place. So a bolted sentence is a sentence that panicked and is now in a wrong place.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 21 2021 12:15 utc | 59

John Hagan | Apr 21 2021 7:21 utc | 46

Lovely bit of work. Deserves to be seen more widely.

:-)


Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 21 2021 12:20 utc | 60

@ Posted by: snake | Apr 21 2021 12:10 utc | 58; @ Posted by: jinn | Apr 21 2021 12:07 utc | 57

It's really very simple. What determines if a given political system is good/fair/works is the material prosperity it can give to its people. The reason is very straightforward: the homo sapiens is an apex predator, and apex predators kill each other for territory and its resources constantly. The only way to make apex predators to stop killing each other is if everybody has more than enough to satisfy their needs.

Political systems in the developed West appear to be better than the political systems in the "East" simply because the First World countries are richer. A richer people is more peaceful and feed themselves the optical illusion their countries/systems is fairer/better.

In reality, it's difficult to justify constitutional monarchies (Japan, most Western European countries), and it's very difficult to justify the USA's fixed two-party system which is clearly propped up by a fixed oligarchy of lobbyists and mega-donors. It is also difficult to ignore that their provinces (the Third World) copied their systems ipsis literis and they continue to be the same shit holes as they've ever been. It's not the political system: it's the wealth. Wealth comes first; it is only after the wealth that its people rationalizes/creates the theory that justify/legitimize its system.

The exception to the rule is Marxism-Leninism. Mao said it clearly in the 1940s - when the civil war was not yet over and when the Communist victory was far from certain - that he didn't choose Marxism-Leninism because he found it pretty: he chose it because it is the only science-based political-organizational theory, the only political system that he can use to act into the future, i.e. plan a new society without it existing already. It was the only tool that could give China what it needed. Other ideologies can only legitimize an already existing or an about to be hegemonic system - Marxism-Leninism is the only one which can predict, build and plan new systems. It elevates ideology to the status of science.

The October Revolution of 1917 was the first scientifically planned revolution in human history. The Bolshevik Party literally discussed and debated it and decided for it before planning it and doing it. They could only do that because they had in hands Marxism, a scientific theory that can be applied to human societies with scientific precision. Marx's theory unified Humanities with Biology, as Engels once pointed out. That's why Marxism is still a very alive theory today - 150 years after Marx's death - and will continue to be very alive for years to come.

Posted by: vk | Apr 21 2021 13:56 utc | 61

The comment numbering is off because some comments have disappeared, either by the host's intervention or, somehow? by gremlins?

In the new numbering @28 William Gruff writes "It seems critical enough to the imperial liberal establishment to sell the empire's aggression against Russia and China that they pull their King Donkey Rear .org persona out of the dumpster. Note that you can detect the liberal establishment's real thoughts leaking past their narrative: "...Putin will not intervene militarily..." The vanity in thinking the empire finds the comfortably right-wing nonsense larded into most comments on MoA is extraordinary. Also, the assumption that any argument can be refuted by assuming conspiracy is possibly a new error in logic, the paranoid fallacy.

As to the basic rationality of thinking "Putin" will not intervene? When the Maidanis overthrew Yanukovych *Putin did not "intervene.* Putin let a fascist regime set up shop, across the bloody Dniepr. All Putin did on his own initiative was to use the previous treaty arrangements that already gave Russian forces a legal presence in Crimea to support an previously suggested plebiscite. The Ukrainians like to claim that Russia invaded Luhansk and Donetsk, but they didn't. ]Putin did not even strongly support the defensive uprising against the new illegitimate Kyiv regime, providing only enough support to stabilize the front and prevent mass refugees in an untidy scramble. Putin immediately recognized the overall legitimacy of the Maidanis! A simple minimal tactic would have been simply to say that Yanukovych was the elected president. That would have opened the possibility of intervening with political and economic sanctions. The record of Putin's proven reluctance to intervene in Ukraine against fascism is also proof that it is rational to believe Putin will not intervene militarily against reconquest of Luhansk and Donetsk. This is particularly true if Ukraine makes verbal concessions on Crimea or if Luhansk and Donetsk suffer a political collapse.

[Many commenters here seem to agree with the Ukrainian fascists that the Russian army is in Luhansk and Donetsk and therefore Luhansk and Donetsk are invincible. Ukraine is weak, and weakening socially...but then again, the civil stasis in Luhanks and Donetsk is weakening them too. So no, Ukraine cannot conquer Crimea at any price, but it can conquer Luhansk and Donetsk, costly as it would be. Putin's technical support in advisers and volunteers was also technical support for the oligarchs with interests in Luhansk and Donetsk, such as Rinat Akmetov. These oligarchs and their spiritual affinities with the fascists---despite a commonplace rivalry when an individual pocketbook was threatened---makes Luhansk and Donetsk weak, in the same way they weaken the rest of Ukraine. (Or Russia itself for that matter.)]

Posted by: steven t johnson | Apr 21 2021 14:22 utc | 62

Russia would be much more impressive/influential if it could get its basket-case economy together. I can understand how Russia could be having trouble with food inflation unless they are exporting too much. And how can Russia have demographic problems - it's women are beautiful if crazy. Putins had enough time, I can see where his people would be getting impatient. It is a jerk thing to say, but maybe a war is what Russia needs.

Also the emphasis on the orthodox church makes putin seem quaint - he should be advocating diversity and lots of baby making - which I think he was offering baby bounties.

Posted by: jared | Apr 21 2021 14:41 utc | 63

Of course I meant to say -
I cannnot understand how Russia could be having trouble with food inflation

Posted by: jared | Apr 21 2021 14:50 utc | 64

There’s also a third meaning for the verb “bolt” which, interestingly, suggests a “hidden” meaning for the typo.

Sometimes plants prematurely bolt, rapidly shooting up, extending a central flowering stem which quickly goes to seed, otherwise ending the more desired proliferation phase of a plant’s edible foliage.

This often occurs when conditions become stressful — like heat or lack of moisture (can be read aggression and lack of compassion). If the empire goes to seed by bolting prematurely, what seeds it will produce?

Which reminds me about the talk of parsley on a previous thread, it overwintering in some places due to a mild climate.

Parsley is a biennial so the second year’s growth will consist of bolting and going to seed. There’s usually not much lush foliage in this second year of life cycle so best to plant some fresh parsley as well. The umbels attract a lot of pollinators and are handsome as well as providing seed for sowing. Some are self sowing.

Posted by: suzan | Apr 21 2021 14:50 utc | 65

Thanks to b for pointing out the poison in a seemingly innocuous segment of the Reuters report. I see this as actually a sign of progress. While the ptb in the west will think of it as a permissable strategy to embed falsehood within a seemingly straightforward piece of reporting, it becomes more important to decry the entire piece for having had the sole purpose of doing so.

We have seen this strategy time and again in national reporting: that it is for the most part a truthful document seeking to infiltrate perception by having within it the tiniest 'untruthful' statement. It must take think tanks up the wahzoo to work out how to employ this method; some such are obvious, the falsehood is right at the top of the article; others are so subtle we might either overlook or be persuaded that 'on the whole' the article is worth consideration. I have often felt that ambiguity and promoted such without realizing that no, the entire piece is contaminated by that one falsehood. And it is far more needful to point out the wrong thinking no matter how slight it may seem to be - another term might be 'subliminal thinking', which is what advertisers seek to impose upon our thought processes. It needs to be eradicated.

Bravo, b. I might have missed this one. Your point is sound. The important and wise thing to do is give a strong condemnation of the entire piece; it is contaminated, not even fit for a landfill. And it is appropriate that here at the bar this can be discussed, since we have long pointed to the western issues such subterfuge raises - lack of education in historical antecedents, particularly the creation and ongoing influence of the UN. karlof1 has often pointed to the fact of its international laws and even its existence being part and parcel of US history and enshrined in the Constitution of the United States. It is our present government that is going against that historical precedent, against a proud moment in its own past.

FDR and Eleanor Roosevelt must be turning in their graves, God bless them!

Posted by: juliania | Apr 21 2021 15:42 utc | 66

when trying to address someone, using their name with the time stamp is usually a good idea.. i see it is still lost on many!

here is putins speech from 6 hours ago - as a transcript.. i wonder if they can give it to kevin rao at reuters so he can screw it up as he did here with the speech from China's President Xi Jinping?? i sure he is capable!

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/65418

Posted by: james | Apr 21 2021 15:43 utc | 67


@
vk | Apr 21 2021 13:56 utc | 61
Luv U, VK (will explain soon).
Yes China & PCC are proving Marx better than A. Smith for humanity's future. Even Putin and al.
But you missed a bit the target...


[...]
the homo sapiens is an apex predator, and apex predators kill each other for territory and its resources constantly. The only way to make apex predators to stop killing each other is if everybody has more than enough to satisfy their needs.
[...]
Marx's theory unified Humanities with Biology, as Engels once pointed out

Everything was well said, but not enough. Most living organisms, including predators, are “social.” Man is a social animal and not just a predator. Hunter-leaver and even farmer since at least Homo Neandertalis.
I posted yesterday about behaviours and neurobiologie

May I, in a friendly way, suggest that you complete your analysis with two hours of viewing? I really soothed my mind with that knowledge. Some prefer to smoke weed, drink a SouternComfort or grow flowers... The important thing is to control aggressiveness even in our exchanges.
A "spécial dédicace" for you
https://youtu.be/rEjvRktXeis


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And some french benchmarks

https://www.futura-sciences.com/planete/dossiers/zoologie-chimpanze-grand-singe-menace-1867/page/3/

https://www.revmed.ch/RMS/2014/RMS-N-426/L-homme-sain-un-animal-social

Posted by: Bernard F. | Apr 21 2021 15:47 utc | 68

@ suzan | Apr 21 2021 14:50 utc | 65

You're right! Stress lead even plants to "reproduction" (or death...) . It's basicaly what's I am doing while triming my poor par tree. Without triming, too much timber and leaves...

As Putin said sanctions were a good stress. Xi don't spoke too much, but accelerate B&R.

Posted by: Bernard F. | Apr 21 2021 16:01 utc | 69

james in comment # 67 provided a link to Putin's speech today and it is incomplete but quite damming and I am going to provide that part to the end

"
At the same time, unfortunately, everyone in the world seems to be used to the practice of politically motivated, illegal economic sanctions and to certain actors’ brutal attempts to impose their will on others by force. But today, this practice is degenerating into something even more dangerous – I am referring to the recently exposed direct interference in Belarus in an attempt to orchestrate a coup d’état and assassinate the President of that country. At the same time, it is typical that even such flagrant actions have not been condemned by the so-called collective West. Nobody seemed to notice. Everyone pretends nothing is happening.

But listen, you can think whatever you like of, say, Ukrainian President [Viktor] Yanukovych or [Nicolas] Maduro in Venezuela. I repeat, you can like or dislike them, including Yanukovych who almost got killed, too, and removed from power via an armed coup. You can have your own opinion of President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko’s policy. But the practice of staging coups d’état and planning political assassinations, including those of high-ranking officials – well, this goes too far. This is beyond any limits.

Suffice it to mention the admission made by the detained participants in the conspiracy about a planned siege of Minsk, including plans to block the city infrastructure and communications, and a complete shutdown of the entire power system in the capital of Belarus! This actually means they were preparing a massive cyberattack. What else could it be? You know, you cannot just do it all with one switch.

To be continued.
"

May you live in interesting time......

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 21 2021 16:07 utc | 70

Thanks to Hoarsewhisperer for a bit of news from the ABC event (Australian Broadcasting Company, not the US TV conglomerate). Events in that part of the world start to open up a bit, good to see.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 21 2021 16:09 utc | 71

@ james | Apr 21 2021 15:43 utc | 67

Thanks James.

Improving communication (Quick and home made translation, RT and al...) was the best WoMD built by Russia.

Stress is a good lead to "seed"

;-) to suzan
https://youtu.be/Z7H57p1HNbY

Posted by: Bernard F. | Apr 21 2021 16:17 utc | 72

thanks pyscho and bernard... it is incomplete and to be continued as psychohistorian notes.... again, i am falling behind in reading the comments.. too much going on at the moment..

Posted by: james | Apr 21 2021 16:27 utc | 73

Thanks to Bernard F @ 25 - Nicely done! That is good news indeed. And I was going to post a thanks to all who having a different native language post in English here, including b. My hat is off to you. Never worry if spelling is off; the meaning is generally clear and much appreciated that you make the effort. Clarifications are always welcome but as Suzanne points out, even misspellings create new avenues to explore.

;)

Posted by: juliania | Apr 21 2021 16:39 utc | 74

@james19 What post is showing up? @Suzan. Yes I have this years parsley plants going in the grow room for now.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Apr 21 2021 17:11 utc | 75

Warning: ridiculous Hasbara Troll alert:

Posted by: John Hagan | Apr 21 2021 7:21 utc | 40

Enough said.

Posted by: Paul | Apr 21 2021 17:31 utc | 76

vk @ 61 says , It's really very simple. What determines if a given political system is good/fair/works is the material prosperity it can give to its people. <= I think maybe economic system has been confused with political system; each are different parts of a nation state franchise? Its difficult to tell your meaning. The economic system is oligarch controlled, even when it is state run, because very few people control the economic power (private or state run). To the economic power element of the nation states is coupled a bottom up control forward/feed back system seeking to control a mind set among the governed: the media keeps minds focused on the political elements in the nation state, while the economic factions use the nation state to rob the governed blind. Economic power does not define the successful state, it may define the state from the viewpoint of the successful Oligarchs who control it; but, the Oligarchic economic beneficiaries leave the right of self determination out..often denies the masses their natural rights, and almost never recognizes the manpower contributed and legislated taxes paid to those who control of the economic system. Slaves from third world environments were brought to the British colonies to make the land Grant Oligarch wealthy. Copyright and patents were used to obtain to the near free labor and lack of concern from environment in China and eastern places.. Without the nation state there would be none of this. The nation states is a weapon often used by the captains of industry to exploit the governed.

Posted by: snake | Apr 21 2021 17:41 utc | 77

@ juliania | Apr 21 2021 16:39 utc | 74

Thanks, I did'nt learn english (at School). Don't even want/try...
I did my military service (occupying french force) in Germany.
Need to speak to some pretty German girls in Biergarten, Weinstube was a good incentive. But finaly usefull for my future.

Anchorage is my Xanadu. As a former Boeing 747 Mechanics we have sometime to fix a B747 Cargo. Very cold place to change an engine. We need some tools and a big suitcase with Thermo-garment. The big case was red-marked:"Anchorage"

And Anchoraged soud like "encouragé" in french too!

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"spécial dédicace" Anchorage by Ry Jones (wild at the beginning but Turn space music "planant" in french, like a Boeing 747 at take off)
https://youtu.be/dxSytNRXCls

Posted by: Bernard F. | Apr 21 2021 18:03 utc | 78

@63&64 jared

The point was that selling on the world market was more profitable.
So the price for wheat, suger bla raised.

They already addressed it.
The point is: if you are a capitalistic you have to regulate things like this. Maybe the Russians didn't expect to become net exporter so fast. So needed rugularies were introduced only after the problem occured.

Posted by: Kartoschka | Apr 21 2021 18:20 utc | 79

Perhaps the liberal establishment's King Donkey Rear .org astroturf persona has read the entire Wikipedia CIApedia article on Marxism and now considers itself an expert? Fascinating how it tries to hang the label "Marxist" on itself even though the points it struggles to make always dovetail with the interests of the imperial establishment. I suppose it is working its way up to trying to sell the liberal establishment as a revolutionary socialist organization.

I wonder if anyone is buying?

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 21 2021 18:32 utc | 80

@ Posted by: Kartoschka | Apr 21 2021 18:20 utc | 80

Thank you for your response.
Yes, the price varies in response to market forces, but sometimes this is a result of choices made - compensation for loss of oil revenue or for cost of military.
Unfortunately for humanity, the US has developed a dynamic where the world pays for the cost of its own destruction.

https://www.bis.org/publ/bppdf/bispap89u.pdf

Posted by: jared | Apr 21 2021 18:56 utc | 81

Posted by: Bernard F. | Apr 21 2021 18:03 utc | 78

In 2019, it ranked as the United States' third-busiest airport and the world's sixth-busiest airport by cargo traffic

I stopped over in your Xanadu a few times, en route to more exciting places. Boeing 747, what an airplane, the symbol of the USA at the peak of its might, just like the new Boeings reflect disdain and neglect.

Posted by: Paco | Apr 21 2021 19:24 utc | 82

# Bernard F. | Apr 21 2021 18:03 utc | 78


I wasn’t awake. My brain has bifurcated.
Xanadu” "Rosebud”

Posted by: Bernard F. | Apr 21 2021 19:37 utc | 83

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 21 2021 18:32 utc | 81

I wonder if anyone is buying?

Doubtful, it is a game of label juggling, that was my quick impression, loaded dice.

Posted by: Paco | Apr 21 2021 19:38 utc | 84

@ Tannenhouser | Apr 21 2021 17:11 utc | 75

... ed crowns @ 15... it was in the last thread too and caitlin johnstone covered it in her e mail last night too... how is the parsley doing?? tabbouleh salad coming up??

Posted by: james | Apr 21 2021 19:55 utc | 85

@ James Still have to wait a bit for the salad:) Thanks for answering my question.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Apr 21 2021 19:56 utc | 86

Thank you, james @ 67 for Putin's speech. His description of the crisis with the covid virus was as exemplary in a different way as was China's, and I'm reminded of the distinction made by Michael Hudson that the attempt of the neoliberals to subvert China's economy came after the one on Russia had almost succeeded. Something of that has certainly affected the ability of Russia to deal with the current crisis, but I am betting they will be better prepared should there be another one. And Putin wasted no time casting blame. As always it was a speech everyone would wish their own leadership would or could make.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 21 2021 20:00 utc | 87

Avoiding all the usual semantically charged words such as Marxism, Capitalism, Communism, Democracy etc.

What seem to be happening today is the division into two sectors, of the worlds population. The rich and the poor.
The rich quite simply control ALL the "*isms" to a smaller or larger extent. One of the only differences, and incidentally the one that causes the problem for the "rich", is the Top-down system of control that they want, set against the bottom-up systems of choosing leaders.

Bottom-up can be "Democratic", "Communard", or modernised versions, but they must be real, not just empty shells into which proto-dictators and Ancoraged idoits are inserted to fill TV screens.

The (known!) wealth of one person like Bezos or Gates is superior to the GNP of three medium sized countries put together. (ie Belgium + Holland and any other) They cannot NOT have undue influence.-

The Reset to put the rich in command, which has been slid out of the spotlight, is a multilayered affair. It includes dumbing down educational systems. Putting all National Judiciary under untouchable extra-territorial inventions (Arbitration committees). The military deprived of its central National role has either to become part of a supra National group (NATO) or be supplanted by mercenary contractors. (Corporate armies). Social divisions, Antifa-BLM, Woke, etc.. are encouraged. The realignment of "political" parties into a unified dictat who all say the same thing. The reduction of Congress, or Parliamentarian oversight to a "single person cult". Religious division, or suppression if possible. Social and community links to be destroyed. Using International Organisations to assume leading roles (UN, WHO WTO etc, certes, but also NGO's). Governments are subject to unknown numbers or influences by "lobbies". ....and corruption. Industry is being concentrated among the "fortunate few" (Oligarchs). De-nationalised by using capital flight to more unregulated locations.

Then we come to finance. The system is shot. BUT it has unknown amounts of "assets" in Derivative markets (700 trillion?), Tax holes and the like. As well as nominally "known" assets. Basically National Governments are tributary to it's magic money tree mechanisms. As we all are. NOW they want to introduce "virtual" cash, where you don't own anything except debts. You will have to smile nicely to someone to be able to eat, drink, travel or sleep. (The Human basic necessities will become the new commercialised control). YOU have their debt to pay off. (Back to them, of course)

Grim huh?

So why take all the previous systems as actualities? They are all past their "best before date", and are now being reused as diversions to hide the real problem for humanity: The rich are too rich.

No question about which part of Humanity you belong to, but do you know it yourself? You cannot self-identify with the rich. You do not even know where they are at the moment, or even all their names.

PS. If you have more than 100 million dollars - you can consider yourself one of the 1%. Everyone else is a serf.

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 21 2021 20:02 utc | 88

@ Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 21 2021 20:02 utc | 89

All secured by debt which is secured by consumer spending which is secured by productivity. When the music stops, who will be left standing?

Posted by: jared | Apr 21 2021 20:30 utc | 89

@ Paco | Apr 21 2021 19:24 utc | 83

Thank you for paying tribute to the love of my life

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All barflies: Fly high with
some background music 

Posted by: Bernard F. | Apr 21 2021 21:28 utc | 90

Iméra tou Ermí #44

I totally agree with your analysis of the Eugenicist nature of the Global Capitalist elite and their desire to use the 4th Industrial Revolution/“great reset” to eliminate the Proles and ultimately create a system even worse then Capitalism (probably some Fully-Automated Transhumanist dystopia where only the Bourgeoisie exists and everyone else went extinct). Another piece of evidence for Russia and China being the same as the U$ is that they both happily participated in the exaggerated “Pandemic” show (China was literally the first country to implement fascist lockdowns in which they welded their citizens in their apartments), and thus both (especially China) are on the cutting edge of Implementing the Neoliberal Technocratic Fascist dystopia of the 4th Industrial Revolution/“great reset”, making the “New Cold War” even more irrelevant.

Posted by: King Lear | Apr 21 2021 18:16 utc | 79

Two interesting, penetrating, and unadorned editorials appeared in the CPC mouthpiece, Global Times. Tovarich VK earlier posted the first one, wherein the editors of GT reflected on the dynamics and geopolitical fortunes of Russia.

Then another interesting article appeared. It contains the following interesting sentence:

As the saying goes, "Gods may do what cattle may not."

Justice, not hegemony, is humanity’s common value: Global Times editorial
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202104/1221589.shtml

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Together these indicate to us that CPC is on-board with Globalism and technocratic authoritarianism. But it also reveals that the current leadership of CPC has come to a good understanding of the occult power running West and various (some "resisting") client regimes. This editorial indicates that they are not on-board with the highest level goals of the "international community".

Please note that CPC mouthpiece is using the precise terminology that the censored individual you were replying to used as well.

Posted by: read-before-it-burns | Apr 22 2021 0:42 utc | 91

@ 88 juliania... thanks... b turned it putins speech into a post which was good!

@ 91 bernard... are you quebecois?? listening to robert charlebois makes me think maybe yes!

Posted by: james | Apr 22 2021 0:51 utc | 92

Mr. Antonym

China was not involved in the establishment of WTO.

I do not find it noteworthy that they have found their membership useful to Chinese interest, like all other members save the United States.

The United States has crippled WTO, its adjudication mechanism and fora by declining to provide representatives.

That is why China and many-liked minded countries are setting up alternative fora and international institutions to get their work done.

Time stands still for no one, least of all for the Americans. The world cannot wait for them and has now proceeded to do its business without them.

Posted by: Fyi | Apr 22 2021 3:01 utc | 93

jared | Apr 21 2021 20:30 utc | 89

Musical chairs, with no chairs left?

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 22 2021 9:37 utc | 94

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 21 2021 18:32 utc | 80

In America, there's the far left, and the rest far right where some whose ideology starts with "L" who pretends to be left.

Posted by: J W | Apr 22 2021 10:26 utc | 95

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