Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
April 28, 2021

U.S. Four Star Generals Ask DNI To Stop Lying

These folks have had it with the constant stream of baseless propaganda U.S. intelligence is spilling over the world:

Dear Director of National Intelligence,

we, the the 4-star Generals leading U.S. regional commands all over the world, are increasingly concerned with about the lack of evidence for claims you make about our opponents.

We, as true believers, do not doubt whatever judgment you make about the harmful activities of Russia, Iran and China. However - our allies and partners do not yet subscribe to the bliss of ignorance. They keep asking us for facts that support those judgments

Unfortunately, we have none that we could provide.

You say that Russia thought to manipulate Trump allies and to smear Biden, that Russia and Iran aimed to sway the 2020 election through covert campaigns and that China runs covert operations to influence members of Congress.

Media reports have appeared in which 'intelligence sources' claim that Russia, China and Iran are all paying bounties to the Taliban for killing U.S. soldiers. Fortunately no soldier got hurt by those rumors.

Our allies and partners read those and other reports and ask us for evidence. They want to know how exactly Russia, Iran and China are doing these things.

They, of course, hope to learn from our experience to protect their own countries.

Currently we are not able to provide them with such information. Your people keep telling our that all of it is SECRET.

We therefore ask you to declassify the facts that support your judgments.*

Sincerely

 

The Generals

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PS: *Either that or shut the fuck up.

The above may well have been a draft for the letter behind this report:

America’s top spies say they are looking for ways to declassify and release more intelligence about adversaries’ bad behavior, after a group of four-star military commanders sent a rare and urgent plea asking for help in the information war against Russia and China.

The internal memo from nine regional military commanders last year, which was reviewed by POLITICO and not made public, implored spy agencies to provide more evidence to combat "pernicious conduct."

Only by "waging the truth in the public domain against America’s 21st century challengers” can Washington shore up support from American allies, they said. But efforts to compete in the battle of ideas, they added, are hamstrung by overly stringent secrecy practices.

“We request this help to better enable the US, and by extension its allies and partners, to win without fighting, to fight now in so-called gray zones, and to supply ammunition in the ongoing war of narratives," the commanders who oversee U.S. military forces in Asia, Europe, Africa, Latin America, as well as special operations troops, wrote to then-acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire last January.

“Unfortunately, we continue to miss opportunities to clarify truth, counter distortions, puncture false narratives, and influence events in time to make a difference," they added.

The generals must have been seriously miffed to write such a letter. There have been a number of published intelligence judgments where the NSA had expressed low confidence in conclusions made mainly by the CIA. The NSA is part of the military.

Between two bureaucracies such an accusing letter or internal memo is the equivalent of a declaration of war. It is doubtful that the intelligence folks would win that fight.

That gives some hope that the Office of the DNI and the agencies below it will now lessen their production of nonsensical claims.

Posted by b on April 28, 2021 at 15:49 UTC | Permalink

Comments

Right on man.
Thank You.

Posted by: Josh | Apr 28 2021 16:02 utc | 1

I hope you're right.
It could go the other way.
They will produce more "evidence"

Posted by: Kartoschka | Apr 28 2021 16:04 utc | 2

Thanks for that b....is it rubber meets the road time?

I just read that the US is getting all its ambassadorial folk out of Afghanistan....maybe somebody is believing May 1 is a firmer deadline than the Biden 9/11 myth.

The shit show is about to crash, IMO, but if it is in slow motion, this crazy could go on for a while....what geo-political straw will break the camel's back?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 28 2021 16:12 utc | 3

Lewis Black, a pretty good US comedian, used to have a bit in the mid-2000's where he would ask the W administration flacks why they didn't just make up evidence about the Iraq WMDs after they "found out" that there were no weapons in the country. Black would tell them just make it up; we're used to it. Just give us an excuse to believe in the BS for God's sake; we'll do it!

I feel it's the same with our satrap nations around the world. At this time, is there anyone who does not understand that US foreign policy is conducted for and by MICIMATT (look it up)? So the generals have got nothing to worry about: keep pounding out that BS; there's a willing, able, and ready corps of salesmen and women in the media who will make enough of the public believe it for "democracy's" purposes.

Posted by: Caliman | Apr 28 2021 16:25 utc | 4

General Flynn had been head of the Defense Intelligence Agency (military).
The CIA was out to get him. It took a while but they eventually hamstrung him good.

Posted by: librul | Apr 28 2021 16:30 utc | 5

"Dear Generals, who haven't won a war in 75 years, so much for the DIA huh? We'd love to share our intelligence with you, our evidence showing the overwhelming and egregious misdeeds of our hateful, spiteful disgusting enemies, whose questioning of our Word should be met with charges of treason, but to give you evidence on top of our own unquestionable and 100% correct threat estimations, would compromise our Intelligence Gathering Methods which are of the strictest security and would threaten the ongoing ability of this Agency to gather and disseminate the unquestionable facts that without fear of contradiction we know is the truth. In short, dear Generals - work on winning a war, any war, and don't meddle in places that befuddle your ability to follow orders. Hooah! The CIA."

Posted by: gottlieb | Apr 28 2021 16:36 utc | 6

This fight has been ongoing for years.
Bottom line: The CIA wants to control the messages and narrative.

Article from 2013, great lead photo. Robert Mueller, James Clapper, John Brennan
and General Flynn all seated near each other.

https://www.defenseone.com/policy/2013/07/intel-wars-dia-cia-and-flynns-battle-consolidate-spying/66716/
Headline and subtext:

Intel Wars: DIA, CIA and Flynn’s Battle to Consolidate Spying
The Defense Department wants in on the spying game. But will the CIA block their efforts?


The CIA essentially absorbed the Pentagon’s only military-wide spying agency seven years ago [2006]
when the Defense HUMINT Service was dismantled -- and now, the Pentagon wants it back.

The CIA is quietly pushing the Armed Services committees along, hoping that Flynn’s DCS will be remembered by history as a failed power grab.

Posted by: librul | Apr 28 2021 16:51 utc | 7

thanks b... this is indeed refreshing, but i think @ 7 gottliebs ''cia'' response is the likely response.... dr. strangelove - ie - cia - are still in command... until the cia- fbi is dismantled and replaced with something else, all bets are off on this letter making a difference, let alone a dent in all of this constant b.s..

Posted by: james | Apr 28 2021 16:52 utc | 8

...
Between two bureaucracies such an accusing letter or internal memo is the equivalent of a declaration of war. It is doubtful that the intelligence folks would win that fight.
That gives some hope that the Office of the DNI and the agencies below it will now lessen their production of nonsensical claims.
Posted by b on April 28, 2021 at 15:49 UTC | Permalink

I hope you're right, b. But I suspect that the (pro-"Israel") Neocons have consolidated their strangle-hold on the US intel agencies which, imo, was already overwhelming at the beginning of the Fake War On Terror circa 2001.

Here's the basis for my scepticism...
The internal memo from nine regional military commanders last year, which was reviewed by POLITICO and not made public, implored spy agencies to provide more evidence to combat "pernicious conduct."

So the DNI has been sitting on this 'treasonous' letter for 4+ months and hasn't started white-anting all 9 signatories?
I have grave doubts about that.

I have very little respect for dumbass military folk.
However, I suppose it's possible that the Generals had the common sense and foresight to formulate, arrange and put in place a plan to arrest and imprison ALL of the hi-profile Neaocons in USA BEFORE they sent the memo.

If they didn't, they're toast. Imo.
I hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 28 2021 17:08 utc | 9

The CIA/FBI/17+ known/unknown agencies are clearly a security apparatus that's gone out of control when even the USA's "nine regional [four-star general] military commanders" are out of the loop and pleading to be better informed. Worryingly, though, they ask for "ammunition in the ongoing war of narratives," which they apparently are ready to go right along with.

Western news media, of course, has become but a compliant weaponized appendage of that security apparatus, and democracy, which depends on informed voters, is nowhere in control of any of this.

Down this slippery slope, lies fascism.

Posted by: Canadian Cents | Apr 28 2021 17:10 utc | 10

The CIA is, in essence, a military organization that does not fall under the purview of the Department of Defense. As such, it is not much interested in the concerns of the other more hidebound military branches, and it will continue to make and execute policy as it pleases. Hell, the CIA has, on many occasions, acted without the approval or even the knowledge of the president.

Posted by: Rob | Apr 28 2021 17:19 utc | 11

I do not see how this is possible. Every major event, from Vietnam, to JFK, to 9-11, and a myriad of others, had US lies baked into the cake. If the US ceased to lie, it would cease to function as America functions today. It would be incapable of empire.

The US establishment, from the President on down, is based on lies. They cannot survive on truth.

No. Nothing is going to change in this regard.

Posted by: rgl | Apr 28 2021 17:31 utc | 12

I kind of hope the CIA wins. I want to see the butt hurt of those who at the same time correctly reject the Zenz propaganda re China, while pushing comparably produced propaganda re Rwanda (i.e. the Ugandan army/RPF/Inkotanyi "genocide against Tutsis" party line). The latter propaganda is debunked in far more detail than the former, and the only reason why many people can see through the former but not the latter is because it isn't the first time.

Posted by: Johan Meyer (2) | Apr 28 2021 17:43 utc | 13

b ended his post with: " lessen their production of nonsensical claims."

"Nonsensical" misses the mark. They are *agenda-driven* claims.
I don't believe the Generals care one whit whether the spineless jellyfish pols
in other countries see through our lies. The Generals want the Pentagon to
have more participation in shaping the agenda and it's attendant narrative.

Posted by: librul | Apr 28 2021 17:48 utc | 14

The military used to be that part pf the US government apparatus ("deep state") that emphasized the value and importance of allies the most.

IMHO what is happening here is that the generals sense the imcreasing cracks in the US-centered alliance system. They attribute it to the work of the intelligence community, which is certainly a contributing factor, but thr real cause is the relative decline in US power and general unreliability due to political instability. The USA is less and less attractive as a partner. When the generals ask another country for a favour as they had been used to for decades they increasingly often get just questions and excuses in return.

Posted by: m | Apr 28 2021 18:13 utc | 16

Look, The generals and the intelligence agencies haven't won a war for a long time. So now they will fight each other. At least ONE of them will win this time ! Success.

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 28 2021 18:38 utc | 17

President Obama, 7 years ago

Our intelligence community has done outstanding work, and we have to continue to protect sources and methods. But when we cannot explain our efforts clearly and publicly, we face terrorist propaganda and international suspicion, we erode legitimacy with our partners and our people, and we reduce accountability in our own government.

Posted by: jaqwith | Apr 28 2021 19:22 utc | 18

If this report is trustfurthy, then it seems to me that some of the 4-star generals from the sinking US of Northern A are now ready to chump ship real fast --not as rats, but upragiht heroes. Both in the US and in the the former Confederacy, remember the navies were the only ones not to dsciminate against 'negroid' shipmates like my own family-
These present-day generals or admirals of our precent time deserve our hails and also full colour honors when thay will be left-overs from more honest times and therefore killed/assassinated:. come deccapitations (get their heads chopped off)! -- as true US heroic hopeite heroistolkeiii- left-overs from more honest times,

Posted by: Tollef Ås/秋涛乐/טלפ וש | Apr 28 2021 19:55 utc | 19

Very good 'B', you read in between the lines, something the fools in our MSM never do.

BTW calling out hypocrisy can get tiresome but this one was just tooooo over the top to ignore. Jamestown accused China of using their economic clout to coerce smaller countries into tolerating their treatment of the Uyghurs. In fact, China was able to muster 50 countries vs our meager showing of 22 countries but Jamestown was unimpressed.

Really? But I seem to remember a country in the Northern Hemisphere that simply would not shut up about having 60 or 70 countries recognize Guaido as President of Venezuela. We recited that number over and over again and we did nothing but use coercion to get our numbers.

https://jamestown.org/program/the-22-vs-50-diplomatic-split-between-the-west-and-china-over-xinjiang-and-human-rights/ "This letter exchange between 22 critics and 50 supporters of the PRC’s policies in Xinjiang demonstrates how the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has leveraged its economic and political influence over other voting members at the UNHCR"

Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Apr 28 2021 19:56 utc | 20

@Posted by: jaqwith | Apr 28 2021 19:22 utc | 19

Thx jaq, that Obama speech is a pip!

"our ability to flout international norms and the rule of law" is not what makes us exceptional (!)
[rather] "it is our willingness to affirm them through our actions"

Obama then names some head-fake "actions":

1) pushing to close Gitmo
2) [combat] perception that we’re conducting surveillance against ordinary citizens
3) blah, blah, blah


I believe in American exceptionalism with every fiber of my being. But what makes us exceptional is not our ability to flout international norms and the rule of law; it is our willingness to affirm them through our actions. (Applause.) And that’s why I will continue to push to close Gitmo -- because American values and legal traditions do not permit the indefinite detention of people beyond our borders. (Applause.) That’s why we’re putting in place new restrictions on how America collects and uses intelligence -- because we will have fewer partners and be less effective if a perception takes hold that we’re conducting surveillance against ordinary citizens. (Applause.) America does not simply stand for stability or the absence of conflict, no matter what the cost. We stand for the more lasting peace that can only come through opportunity and freedom for people everywhere.

Posted by: librul | Apr 28 2021 19:57 utc | 21

Sorry for the miss-spelling; It should be "hopelites" and not "hopeite"

Posted by: Tollef Ås/秋涛乐 | Apr 28 2021 20:01 utc | 22

stonebird @ 18 hits more than just one bird w/that stone of truth. after cronos eats his children and the world, what's left?

one way for the Gadarene herd not to take us all off the cliff w/them is for the pigs to devour each other. however, more likely is that the madcow-fed swine being discomfited internationally today will cause domestic to more and more resemble foreign policy.

for reasons financial, political, military, medical, international, marine, cosmological, individual, domestic, etc., etc., above all environmental, there is only one task: the destruction of the USG.

Posted by: jason c quilty | Apr 28 2021 20:14 utc | 23

‘Oh what a tangled web we weave/When first we practice to deceive’

Ironic it's the military asking the DNI to stop lying. The same organization which lied about the death of Pat Tillman, and continues to lie about what is going on in Afghanistan and why we need to remain there. And about what we are doing and who we are helping in Syria, and a lot of other places around the world. These things aren't making the US safer they are undermining our ideas and credibility, not just from our allies but among our own citizens.

Posted by: 10 to 1 | Apr 28 2021 20:16 utc | 24

Is this a sign of a struggle between the CIA and Pentagon as to who is the boss of foreign and war policy? Anybody remember when CIA supported jihadists were fighting Pentagon supported groups (were they jihadists?) in Syria. Seems like the Pentagon is the one deciding on relations with the Syrian Kurds, and not the CIA. Flynn was actively helping the Damascus with info about the CIA backed jihadists.

I would rather have the Pentagon win as they are not all that hot-to-trot for actual wars. The CIA should just go back to running US media, law makers, corporation and ruining civil liberties.

Posted by: Erelis | Apr 28 2021 20:31 utc | 25

Isn't it safe to assume that *anything* the CIA says publicly, either through direct channels or their co-opted corporate media, is false? Cue the Mike Pimpeo quote: "We lied, we cheated, we stole..." and of course the entire history of that useless agency, lol.

Posted by: K_C_ | Apr 28 2021 22:26 utc | 26

Hoarsewhisperer #10

Ditto. I am sure the CIA will be grinding the generals as we speak. Even the letter in Politico could well be one of their strategies. I posted a piece in the open thread yesterday from The HILL that was pure propaganda.

USA is not alone in losing guerrilla warfare.

Watch for Biden announcing a 'shake up' of the military command in the next few weeks/months.

The US military 2021 retreat from Kabul will result in a slaughter in the USA.

I see the Pentagon pulling the plug on the opium income for the CIA. Now THAT is the real war. So the CIA now has to pay its mercenary army to defend the harvest and extraction. That added cost to the CIA will not be taken lightly.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 28 2021 22:44 utc | 27

Biswapriya Purkayast #16


"Crimea River"

Superb - allow me to buy you a drink.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 28 2021 22:51 utc | 28

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 28 2021 22:44 utc | 29

"So the CIA now has to pay its mercenary army to defend the harvest and extraction."

Seems to me it is the taxpayer that is paying for defending the fields.

US/NATO Troops Patrolling Opium Poppy Fields in Afghanistan

Posted by: arby | Apr 28 2021 22:53 utc | 29

OOOps UT.

I think I misread you.

Posted by: arby | Apr 28 2021 22:55 utc | 30

I bet these generals now don’t think that Kennedy’s idea of dissolving the CIA was such a bad idea. Tool late now.

Posted by: Alpi | Apr 28 2021 23:05 utc | 31

Arby

All good but it is correct that the taxpayer foots the bills while the black ops fills the CIA racket accounts.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 28 2021 23:22 utc | 32

UT,
I do believe that a large amount of those profits go to the folks with yachts that dock off Monaco.

Posted by: arby | Apr 28 2021 23:35 utc | 33

I think you have seriously misinterpreted that letter’s intent. The generals are asking for more lies about adversaries, not less.

Posted by: TimmyB | Apr 29 2021 0:52 utc | 34

The generals (if real) should quit or take some kind of action them deem appropriate but writing and leaking memorandums demanding "better lies" is less meaningful than most comments here (not a backhanded compliment against anyone here, instead pointing out the relative futility of the memo even if one assumes it is genuine).

Such catnip of false hope in empty battles between devils and demons is not appealing (and they will simply respawn).

So no; more is required, much more, to begin to appear to look like some kind of opposition or correction.

Instead due to its weak nature this looks like an attempt at distraction.

In our current world people can (if they are able to see it and recognize it) get enough sensible basic political instruction from watching others play "Doom Eternal" and listening to the propaganda of the pro-demon UAC spokesperson (-person, the "woke" title) to recognize the irrelevance of some "Pentagon rebels" allegedly complaining about getting their chairs arranged flawlessly.

"Ask not what we can do for you, ask what you can do for us"
A quote not of Kennedy but instead of the UAC, bringing the Kennedy original into a suitably revealing context and tearing down much more than him in the process. One example of many, the game is filled with it to a surprising degree.

- - - - - -

When generals truly manage to be or appear as some kind of threat of change or correction (and still regardless of being genuine or not) what happens is at a minimum the denunciations as seen last week in France.

They know that, so let us see how well the game is being played and scrutinize the quality of any coming "outrage".

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 29 2021 1:11 utc | 35

The difference between a cow and the CIA?
Cow: grass, in manure out.
CIA: garbage in, bullshit out.

Posted by: Antonym | Apr 29 2021 1:16 utc | 36

Posted by: Serg | Apr 28 2021 16:29 utc | 5

General Mackenzie who testified before the US House Armed Services Committee said Iran’s widespread use of drones means that the US is operating without complete air superiority for the first time since the Korean War.

Press TV @PressTV

Iran's IRGC drone takes precise footage as it flies over US aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf

[VIDEO]

https://twitter.com/PressTV/status/1384909993120518149

Posted by: Mao | Apr 29 2021 3:19 utc | 37

Fearful of Iran’s growing military power, the United States and the Israeli regime have decided to set up a working group focused on the Islamic Republic’s missile and drone capabilities.

On Tuesday, US national security adviser Jake Sullivan and his Israeli counterpart, Meir Ben-Shabbat, agreed in a meeting in Washington to establish an inter-agency working group to focus attention on Tehran’s military achievements, especially in the fields of drones and precision-guided missiles, and what they called Tehran’s supply of the hardware to resistance groups in West Asia.

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2021/04/28/651466/US-Israeli-officials-seriously-concerned-over-Iran-advances-in-developing-drones-precision-guided-missiles

Posted by: Mao | Apr 29 2021 4:12 utc | 38

The chief commander of the Iranian Army says drones are now a substantial component of the Islamic Republic’s Armed Forces and will be used in any battle if the need arises.

Major General Abdolrahim Mousavi made the remarks on the sidelines of a military march held on Sunday to mark the National Army Day, during which Iran’s latest military achievements, including home-grown air defense systems, were showcased.

“What you saw today was a small portion of the Islamic Republic of Iran Army’s capabilities put on display,” the commander said, adding that all the necessary health precautions had been taken into consideration during the parade at a time of the COVID-19 pandemic.

“Today, you witnessed the emerging drone power of the Islamic Republic of Iran Army, and it must be noted that this power was developed during all the years the country was under [Washington’s] ‘maximum pressure.’”

“Today, the drone capability of the Army is a major source of power and a trump card for the Armed Forces, which if needed, would be used in any battlefield,” the Iranian general emphasized.

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2021/04/18/649762/Drones-Iranian-Army

Posted by: Mao | Apr 29 2021 4:15 utc | 39

Below is a short Xinhuanet posting that shows that China is quite serious about their concern with Taiwan separatist movements

"
BEIJING, April 28 (Xinhua) -- A Chinese mainland spokesperson on Wednesday voiced resolute opposition to separatist attempts in Taiwan including those through the so-called "constitutional amendments."

"We will take all necessary countermeasures against such moves. This warning should be heeded before it is too late," said Ma Xiaoguang, spokesperson for the Taiwan Affairs Office of the State Council, in response to a query on remarks by sources from Taiwan's Democratic Progressive Party authority on amending the island's so-called "constitution."

In complete disregard of Taiwan compatriots' interests and well-being, a handful of separatist forces advocating "Taiwan independence" have been carrying out provocative and dangerous actions driven by selfish purposes, said Ma.

"This will only aggravate the tension across the Taiwan Strait, pushing the island into a precarious situation, and bringing suffering to Taiwan compatriots," said Ma.

Noting the legal foundation and reality that both sides of the Taiwan Strait belong to one China, Ma said political differences between the two sides can well be resolved through equal negotiations based on the one-China principle.

"We are willing to use our maximum sincerity and do our very utmost to promote the peaceful reunification of China," said Ma. "However, we will never tolerate any 'Taiwan independence' separatist moves, or allow the historical tragedy of national division to repeat itself."
"

I noticed skimming elsewhere on the intertubes that Australia seems to be the current yapping hyena of the ant-China Quad....talking about drums of war and other BS....what a sad joke....do they not see how servient they look?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 29 2021 4:48 utc | 40

...
I noticed skimming elsewhere on the intertubes that Australia seems to be the current yapping hyena of the ant-China Quad....talking about drums of war and other BS....what a sad joke....do they not see how servient they look?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 29 2021 4:48 utc | 42

Scum Mo, aka Mr Glib, is a Neocon and Christian Zionist Crank. And apparently doesn't care how stupid he seems. Kevin Rudd, ex-Oz PM, is so worried about Scum Mo's reckless stupidity (and Bible-Bashing - aka "Onward Christian Soldiers" re China) that he went on ABC.net.au/7.30 current affairs program last night to point out numerous facets of Scum Mo's questionable and contradictory religious beliefs, in notionally secular Oz.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 29 2021 5:54 utc | 41

Rob | Apr 28 2021 17:19 utc | 12

The CIA is, in essence, a military organization that does not fall under the purview of the Department of Defense. As such, it is not much interested in the concerns of the other more hidebound military branches, and it will continue to make and execute policy as it pleases. Hell, the CIA has, on many occasions, acted without the approval or even the knowledge of the president.

The CIA, as far as I can see is, in reality, not so much a government agency, as a gang, (The biggest in the world.) a criminal organization that largely controls the USA, running it for its own interests. The US Army, is correspondingly their enforcer. It controls the actions of the USG by blackmail and threats of violence.

Posted by: foolisholdman | Apr 29 2021 9:33 utc | 42

rgl | Apr 28 2021 17:31 utc | 13

The US establishment, from the President on down, is based on lies. They cannot survive on truth.

No. Nothing is going to change in this regard.


This letter looks like the Generals, who are inhibited from calling BS on the whole output of the Spy Agencies, asking for better, i.e. more credible, more self-consistent lies. "FFS stop embarrassing us!"

Posted by: foolisholdman | Apr 29 2021 9:41 utc | 43

foolisholdman | Apr 29 2021 9:33 utc | 44

That "CIA" should probably read "CIA/Mossad"

Posted by: foolisholdman | Apr 29 2021 10:18 utc | 44

One reading of the story is for the intelligence agencies to lie less. The other reading is for them to get more evidence, lie better.
What fun will we have when deep fakes have been honed? It will start small, videos, photos and audio about small incidents in the middle of nowhere posted by unknown people on social media. Once these fake videos and photos have been tested in the wild, will the intelligence agencies (of all countries) start manufacturing evidence wholesale?
I hope this does not come to pass but it would be really handy for them to conjure up such evidence. Though if we went down that rabbit hole, narrative would become totally unhinged from reality. (Yes, even more than now)

Posted by: Mighty Druken | Apr 29 2021 11:22 utc | 45

“Unfortunately, we continue to miss opportunities to clarify truth, counter distortions, puncture false narratives, and influence events in time to make a difference," they added.
Translation: "We'd gladly join you in hurling s**t around but unfortunately can't make it up quick enough, so could you please provide us with some bullet points well in advance, thank you."

Posted by: just a rat | Apr 29 2021 11:50 utc | 46

Where were the "nine regional [four-star general] military commanders" when Trump was POTUS? Not going public with their revelations is having their cake and eating it too. I don't buy it. I agree with Hoarsewhisperer @ 10.

"The professional military mind is by necessity an inferior and unimaginative mind; no man of high intellectual quality would willingly imprison his gifts in such a calling." H.G. Wells

Posted by: Lawrence Miller | Apr 29 2021 12:46 utc | 47

Dear Generals:

Thank you for your letter. Please understand that our communications are designed for internal consumption.

Regrettably, it is inevitable that these leak out to the international community and cause you some discomfort.

Our goal is to prepare the population for a significant event in the future.

When we need cannon fodder we will be sure to contact you.

Best Regards,

The Intelligence Community

Posted by: PE Bird | Apr 29 2021 14:26 utc | 48

When the CIA says the “Intelligence” is’Secret’, that means it doesn’t exist.

Posted by: William H Warrick MD | Apr 29 2021 16:49 utc | 49

The lack of forward looking intelligence across the American side of the board is the most threatening that it has ever been. The Generals know that intelligence outfit is pumping fake and the hegemonic rewards of any combat are non existent. Their motivation is clearly encased within their never ending personal gain corruption. Now their insane greed is rekindling the risk of total nuclear destruction across the board. The US is being taken down a cul-de-sac of the creation of increasing threats of western annihilation for nothing more than the gravy train of brown envelopes for the corruption brigade gangleaders. The right time to wake up was decades ago. Now the tentacles go most everywhere.

Posted by: Carver | Apr 29 2021 20:17 utc | 50

Here are America's vaunted "core values" in their fundamental character:

1). Lying about other nations.

2). Psychologically projecting America's own crimes and threats onto these nations.

3). Waging wars of aggression against these nations based on all these lies.

4). Rinse and Repeat.

In short, America is a nation of sociopathic liars and mass murderers--a nation of liars who even lie to themselves (and others) that they are a "Force for Good" in the world....


Posted by: ak74 | Apr 30 2021 0:53 utc | 51

Do those generals have difficulty in writing English?

we, the the 4-star Generals leading U.S. regional commands all over the world, are increasingly concerned with about the lack of evidence for claims you make about our opponents.

Your people keep telling our that all of it is SECRET.

Posted by: Moscow Exile | May 1 2021 6:14 utc | 52

Moscow Exile | May 1 2021 6:14 utc | 54

Do those generals have difficulty in writing English?

we, the the 4-star Generals leading U.S. regional commands all over the world, are increasingly concerned with about the lack of evidence for claims you make about our opponents.

Your people keep telling our that all of it is SECRET.


I should think it is quite likely. The educational system in Britain dropped the teaching of Grammar*, about 65 years ago and I think that was following the US example. These days, I find that when I read an article with very few mistakes in it, it is usually written by someone who learnt his English in the USSR!

* "Grammar is too boring and tends to put the pupils off learning English and besides, all those rules, cramp their creativity." This remark was made to me by the head of the English Department of an expensive fee-paying, English school.

Posted by: foolisholdman | May 3 2021 18:29 utc | 53

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