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April 25, 2021

The MoA Week In Review - OT 2021-031

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:

> The fundamental misperception appears to be the assumption that Russia aims to find its way back into the US-led order; rather, Russia is pursuing an organized decoupling from the US-led order. Furthermore, the willingness to reach a political settlement is absent. The US and Russia view each other as increasingly less relevant actors and no longer the main focus of their respective foreign policies.
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Until a new format for cooperation is established that restores sovereign equality, any summit between the two world leaders will likely fall victim to political theatrics and harmful posturing. Moscow should politely reject the offer and instead rely on less public formats to negotiate pragmatic and mutually beneficial arrangements. <
Brahma Chellaney @Chellaney - 5:55 UTC · Apr 24, 2021
Thanks to COVID-19, many nations learned hard lessons about China-reliant supply chains. And the Quad agreed to build resilient supply chains. But now, thanks to Biden's hoarding of vaccines and raw materials, many nations are learning hard lessons about US-reliant supply chains.

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Other issues:

Afghanistan:

> Separately, a senior former Afghan security official deeply familiar with the country's counterterrorism program said two of six units trained and run by the CIA to track militants have already been transferred to Afghan control.
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The CTPT teams are feared by many Afghans and have been implicated in extra-judicial killings of civilians. In 2019, the head of the Afghan intelligence service, Masoom Stanikzai, was forced to resign after one of these units was implicated in the summary execution of four brothers.

Earlier this year, in Afghanistan's eastern Khost province, one of the teams was accused of gunning down civilians in a counterterrorism operation. The United Nations has also criticized the tactics of these units, previously blaming them for a rise in civilian casualties along with insurgent groups. <

Armenia:

Covid-19:

Covid-19 Vaccine Thrombosis:

Annals of Diplomacy:


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And yes, various treatments exist
https://www.newsweek.com/yale-professor-lockdowns-1585070

Posted by: Mina | Apr 28 2021 13:48 utc | 201

Mina | Apr 28 2021 12:24 utc | 191

Thanks for the Ivermectin info, we returned to Europe and the fever became dormant. (I think) as that is what happens to Malaria. You are still prone to it if you are infected again as "something" remains in the bloodstream..

Altitude has much the same effect. (Mosquitos are less of a nuisance)

This was many years ago, and Ivermectin was not on any doctors list. Even if you could find one in PNG.

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 28 2021 14:06 utc | 202

@ Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 27 2021 20:14 utc | 182


The mRNA technology appears to me to be easily tweaked by altering the code to combat break through spike mutations. It does, however, take several months to produce new batches so genome surveillance which only a few countries exceed at ( Denmark and UK) would need to be ramped up to catch at early stage. Interestingly, the US did not begin genome surveillance until late fall 2020 and still, even with further funding, lags way behind— almost as if it didn’t want to know but that is speculation.

That must be something Mina wrote regarding Sinovac and AZ’s lack of efficacy against P.1 (Brazil) and B.1.351 (SA) VOCs. What I have read says Sinovac is 67% effective against preventing infection in Chile where the P.1 variant is widespread. Part of the reporting confusion stems from not examining data available carefully, taking into concern time lags after vaccination for results to appear.

Regarding AZ and the SA variant, trials were paused early because of this concern. Concern was based on a very small sample size (may have been other unstandable concerns that went unmentioned), but with high prevalence of covid in the population, even if efficacy was reduced to ~ 50%, depending on one’s age group and risk factors, this is better protection than not being vaccinated.

I am not suggesting there is deliberate malign intent acting, rather conditions emerged from some unknown event whereby a crisis arose where opportunities manifested to perfect cutting-edge biotechnology, and wherein most participants believe their work will only be used to benefit humanity.

I am sorry to hear your wife, and you through being there, suffered with Dengue. The reinfection stage is termed “bone breaking disease” because it is so painful. I have heard that Ivermectin helps with this disease.

If you are apologizing for not responding quickly, then I need to apologize to all barflies as I rarely am here to reply in a timely back and forth. Often so much time goes by that it seems a waste of the bar’s time to respond, especially with tangential issues. My apologies.

Posted by: suzan | Apr 28 2021 14:19 utc | 203

Suzan,
i see that now the latest speaks of 67% efficiency, incl against the Brazil variant
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/chinas-sinovac-covid-19-vaccine-67-effective-preventing-symptomatic-infection-2021-04-16/
3 weeks ago, the "only 3 percent" made headline, but I see here that it was about only the 1st jab
https://www.ft.com/content/89992bc9-051a-42b5-8be0-60edad4165cb

There was a whole bunch of articles against the Chinese vaccine in the last three months https://www.politico.eu/article/everything-you-need-to-know-china-coronavirus-vaccines/. Probably orchestrated to allow the Pfizer and Moderna get more sales
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-56713663
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/04/07/china-coronavirus-vaccine-diplomacy-sinovac-sinopharm-mixed-results/
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/business/chinese-vaccine-brazil-sinovac.html
often quoting the surge of cases in Chile despite the high rate of vaccination as a sign it did not worked against P1 (probably I ve heard that in relation to the French Guyana situation)
But it is very good news that the large study now give it much better results.

Posted by: Mina | Apr 28 2021 14:34 utc | 204

Foreign Minister Lavrov slowly realizes the country he serves now (the Russian Federation) is merely a shadow of the country he grew up in (Soviet Union):

Liberals demanding pro-Western policies from Moscow simply ‘don’t understand Russian genetic code,’ Foreign Minister Lavrov claims

“I can’t even comment on this,” Moscow’s top envoy said, claiming that such notions amounted to “schizophrenic” thinking in Washington. “I think that during the Cold War, there were very serious tensions… but there was mutual respect. In my opinion, that is now in short supply.”

This lack of "mutual respect" is the abyss that separates a world superpower (USSR) from a Third World country (the Russian Federation). Indeed, the Russian Federation is not even the USA's number one worry - that "honor" now belongs to China, the true successor of the USSR and the legacy of Lenin.

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Recommend reading it:

US still 'king' of contemporary capitalism, by Ding Gang

More important than the content of the article is its historical context: it comes from a Chinese, in the Chinese government's extraofficial newspaper, in the 21st Century.

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India’s vaccine material shortage reveals unfair supply chain that tilts towards the rich world

A really sad end for India. I almost feel pity for them.

On a side note: did you see Bill Gates' video defending the vaccine IPs? In it, he basically says the Third World countries can wait until 2030 to get vaccinate if that's the price for the preservation of the IPs. So spoke a man who found oil twice in the 1990s (DOS; Windows) but is not actually very smart. He should stop talking on subjects that are not from his area of expertise.

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Neither Moscow nor Vatican received Zelensky’s proposal for meeting with Putin — Kremlin

It seems Zelensky has acquired the West's bad habit of doing politics through the MSM instead of the proper channels.

But then, that's how fascist governments work: 1% substance, 99% propaganda. There's a reason Hollywood's Golden Age only became a reality after Hitler's feedback during the 1930s.

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Double standards:

Economist warns that ‘China’s population crisis is approaching’, with ‘increasingly severe’ economic and social problems

Japan approves far-reaching RCEP free trade deal

So, let me see if I understood the logic: China is going to collapse because it birth rates are going to negative territory for the first time in the Communist Era (yes, the so-called "famines" of the Great Leap Forward are a myth; population continued to grow during that period); but, all of a sudden, Japan solved all of its economic problems by signing a free trade deal? Doesn't Japan also have a shrinking population problem for like, four decades now?

Why is a declining population a structural problem for China but not for Japan?

Also, why doesn't the SCMP - also known as the HK-Taiwan Morning Post - mention Taiwan's dismal population problems, which are even worse than Japan's?

Taiwan’s fertility dilemma

Just to remember: the Taiwanese jet pilot who crashed into the ocean and died (probably because of human error) was 44-year old - extremely old for a jet pilot. I'm waiting to see the Western experts look at this problem.

Posted by: vk | Apr 28 2021 15:08 utc | 205

Lavrov is talking about the changes in the US and "the west" not Russia.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 28 2021 15:23 utc | 206

@ Sunny Runny Burger ... thanks for the link to the midnight - music video... twas interesting.. i am not familiar with the band, but i liked what i heard..

thanks all for the back and forth on covid related matters..

Posted by: james | Apr 28 2021 15:41 utc | 207

@c1ue #183:

Looking at annual mortality for the past 70 years - it is very difficult to see the "spike" caused by COVID… How is this possible?

@c1ue #192:

…the multi-year graph doesn't show a spike.

Did you not see the big fat note at the top of the page you linked?

NOTE: All 2020 and later data are UN projections and DO NOT include any impacts of the COVID-19 virus.

@Bemildred #186, #194, @jared #187

The chart linked to by c1ue only shows real data up to 2019; 2020 and later are projections based on earlier data. It is thus completely useless for discussing the impact of COVID-19.

For a real 2020 U.S. mortality chart, see the article I referenced in my comment #154, specifically, Figure 2. The increase is clear as day.

Posted by: S | Apr 28 2021 16:53 utc | 208

Frankly, it is frustrating how you guys and gals are not paying attention to details. One bad comment has thrown you and the entire discussion off-track. The discussion should be about the significant undercounting of deaths found by Karlinsky & Kobak.

Posted by: S | Apr 28 2021 17:10 utc | 209

I have a question for ppl with medical training:
I know two persons who are in their mid 50s and had sudden hearing loss from one side within a few months apart. One ended permanent (but he did not see a doctor quickly when it happened) and the other one has had a little improvment with cortisone after 10 days (but is still at ca 80%). Can that be related to covid? They both work including at the office some times a week. When I asked if they had had a covid test they said that they had blood analysis and that if there was they would have been told.
Anyone has heard of similar cases? I am just wondering if the orders from above are not to bury cases, especially among employees.

Posted by: Mina | Apr 28 2021 17:12 utc | 210

@ Posted by: vk | Apr 28 2021 15:08 utc | 206

"mutual respect" | "malign/over-throw"
These two things are not entirely compatible.

If the "west" (meaning the owners) were showing "mutual respect" while driving Russia into the ground, that would be "schizophrenic thinking". They are not doing that, they only seeks to destroy and rebuild - well, the rebuilding is discretionary and comes at a cost.

Gorbachev gave birth to something, Putin is trying to return it to the womb.
The problem for Russia, the problem with Monarchies is the life of the ruler is limited and a great ruler is no necessarily followed by another of equal capacity.

Ukraine was on Putin's watch. Sometimes you play chess, sometimes checkers.

Posted by: jared | Apr 28 2021 17:18 utc | 211

Lavrov spouting ignorant drivel like "genetic code" while attacking parts of the Russian population is not nice, to say the least. It's not even smart. The Russian Federation is officially multinational but this kind of crap excludes non-Russians. And feeds anti-Semitism with everyone who identifies Jews with "liberals" too. Invoking DNA is always hateful and dishonest and contemptible. If you think it was OK for a Russian or a Chinese, remember the 1619 Project pulled the same crap.

The link to Ding Gang is not what is represented. Ding Gang is not acknowledging the key role of US imperialism in world economy but piously calling for class collaboration to reform capitalism. Ding Gang appears to be of the faction that deludes itself capitalism is the future if only class collaborationism permits reforms. Bah, humbug!

Re India's unhappy position in the world vaccine market? Liberalism is the idea that the market is the arbiter of justice. This is true both of the old liberalism, the neoliberalism and any daydream versions being touted as the alternatives to supposedly exploded theories of socialism/communism. The belief that God makes this a just world is fundamentally a religious one, superstition and bigotry combined. This is still true even when the "market" or the "genetic code" function as God in dispensing justice.

It is correct *in one sense* that gloating over China's demographic crisis while not even seeing one in Japan or Taiwan is just a double standard at work. There is a sense however in which it is not, namely that Chinese capitalism is deemed to depend on lower real wages, that imperialism can exploit by the perfectly fair exchange of goods on the international market. (Domestic capitalist pay their domestic workers a fair wage too...the theory of surplus value explains how this works, which is why so many "Marxists" are careful to disagree with Marx on this teeny little point.) Taiwan is not a country free from US imperialism, thus it's demographic crisis is not a problem for imperialism. The need for population replacement for the US is an often over-looked aspect of US domestic policy too. Population growth is the growth of the productive forces, because people are the number one productive force. That's why immigration is such a problem in the US. It needs it but a policy of importing scabs, which is what the government wants to do, is a tough sell, to say the least.

But of course, demographic collapse is not a problem for imperialism in the real China either, it's perceived as an opportunity to overthrow the Chinese government, to finally finish getting down the capitalist road to the destination, to finally be, home free! The rise in wages will make Chinese capitalists non-competitive and creating a government that will, like Yeltsin/Putin attack the living standards of the workers, will put an end to socialism with Chinese characteristics. In their dreams, to be sure. But who in the Chinese leadership doesn't want more capitalism?

Japan's is not an emerging economy but has a dense network of capitals that can invest in physical capital to save labor. And the capitalist system is developed enough that the perpetual regeneration of petty bourgeois and bourgeois capitals, which operates alongside the tendencies to immiserate the proletariat and to concentrate and centralize capitals, keeps providing a certain amount of internal demand. It's unstable, insufficient, ultimately a restriction of the growth of the productive forces, because it's capitalism. But although it's why Japan has been relatively stagnant for decades

Posted by: steven t johnson | Apr 28 2021 17:48 utc | 212

PS vk@206 wrote "(yes, the so-called 'famines' of the Great Leap Forward are a myth; population continued to grow during that period)..."

Total population can still grow, but grow slower, so that rebuttal is not decisive. The thing is, the Great Leap Forward was a radical decentralization of the Chinese economy, something rather the reverse of Stalin's Five Year Plans. The chances that floods, droughts and blights in different areas in the period caused famines is not in the least impossible. Given the withdrawal of central government, its ability to relieve "local" famines was sharply reduced. Thus, I cannot dismiss the reports of famine during the Great Leap Forward as mere myths. What is also impossible to accept is that the famine was universal. The overall population growth does go very far to refuting that claim. The desire to insist that the worst of the Great Leap Forward was the norm everywhere throughout the period is I think due to the insistence that the Great Leap Forward, all by itself, without any "help" from floods or droughts or blights, caused universal death. The implications are either it was all deliberate or all madness (like socialism generally.) It may seem like conceding too much to acknowledge any famines anywhere anytime, but in the long run, truth is the best defense. And the best offense too.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Apr 28 2021 18:01 utc | 213

@ mina... interesting... making a pun about it - 'i haven't heard about that...

@ 209 S.. thanks for the link...

Posted by: james | Apr 28 2021 18:34 utc | 214

Second PS re Ding Gang's pious hopes for redistribution. There is a study of equality by historian Walter Scheidel, called The Great Leveler. It is very wide-ranging, covering many societies and many epochs. It finds that taxation rarely achieves any significant leveling, that national catastrophe, huge wars, the collapse of civilization (in the sense of settled societies, living in cities, not in any stupid racial or moral sense!) are the only effective levelers...other than socialist revolution. But socialist revolution has been renounced in favor of socialism with Chinese characteristics, where the market will make ever more decisions about social investment and the government will be supportive of businessmen.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Apr 28 2021 18:44 utc | 215

james, this was difficult for me to find, but it is I think one of the best recordings - there is no attribution but it is the ancient chant for Holy Week exapostilarion "Your Bridal Chamber" - in Slavonic but with all voices:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSxk8Nyc8LU

Your Bridal Hall
I behold, my Saviour, made lovely;

But a garment I lack
To enter there;

Make radiant the vesture,
the vesture of my soul,
O Life Giver,
And save me.

[The version we sang was an elaboration on this chant,
and this was our translation]

I did finish reading "The Devils", yes, Dostoievski's penultimate novel. I loved it.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 28 2021 22:01 utc | 216

The text of Biden's speech:

Text of Biden’s first address to joint session of Congress

My wife reports he looked fairly together.

Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 29 2021 2:37 utc | 217

Below is the text of a Xinhuanet posting with an interesting question in it for MoA barflies

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BEIJING, April 28 (Xinhua) -- Chinese Premier Li Keqiang said on Wednesday that China stands ready to work with Germany to keep the overall direction of bilateral relations featuring dialogue and cooperation and promote Sino-German relationship to a higher level.

Li made the remarks when co-chairing the sixth China-Germany inter-governmental consultation with German Chancellor Angela Merkel via video link in Beijing.

He stressed that cooperation and win-win results is the main thrust of China-Germany all-round strategic partnership.

Li called on China and Germany to enhance anti-epidemic cooperation, promote fair and equitable distribution of COVID-19 vaccines, and reject vaccine nationalism.

He said the two countries should give full play to their fast track for essential travels and jointly safeguard the security and stability of the global industrial and supply chains.

Noting that both sides are willing to embrace opening-up and uphold fair competition, the premier said China stands ready to work with EU to jointly promote the signing and entry into force of the China-EU investment agreement as soon as possible to facilitate the healthy and stable development of bilateral relations.

For her part, Merkel said Germany advocates opening-up and cooperation and opposes to protectionism.

She underscored the importance of the investment agreement between EU and China and expressed hope that the two sides can jointly promote entry into force of the agreement at an early date.

After the consultation, Li and Merkel jointly witnessed the "cloud signing" of a series of bilateral cooperation documents including climate response, social security, health, food safety, transportation and sustainable development.

During the consultation, Li and Merkel also attended a bilateral forum on economic and technological cooperation and met with Chinese and German business leaders via video link.

Li said in the first quarter of this year, China-Germany trade went up by 41.5 percent year-on-year, which is a full demonstration of the high-level and huge potential of bilateral cooperation.

He said the more than 7,000 German enterprises in China and more than 2,000 Chinese companies in Germany have become an "active force" of bilateral cooperation.
"

The question for MoA barflies is what are the details of the investment agreement between EU and China that Merkel wants in force quickly?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 29 2021 4:14 utc | 218

Below is a Xinhuanet posting about the proposed dumping by Japan of Fukushima nuclear contaminated wastewater into the sea

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BEIJING, April 28 (Xinhua) -- A foreign ministry spokesperson on Wednesday urged Japan to revoke and apologize for its wrong decision to dump contaminated water from the Fukushima nuclear power plant into the Pacific Ocean.

Spokesperson Zhao Lijian made the remarks at a daily news briefing when asked whether or not to delete his related tweet, in consideration of protests from the Japanese side.

Zhao on Monday tweeted an image by a Chinese illustrator based on the famous painting "The Great Wave off Kanagawa" by the Japanese artist Katsushika Hokusai. The new image depicts nuclear waste being poured into the sea.

"Japan has done a wrong thing. Don't people have the right to talk about it?" Zhao said.

He said that the new painting reflects the Chinese people's concern and dissatisfaction with Japan's unilateral decision to dump water contaminated with radiation from Fukushima into the sea.

"In fact, Japan's decision has aroused strong opposition and serious concern, not only from China, but also from the governments of many countries, international organizations, more than 300 environmental protection groups around the world, and people from various countries including Japan," he added.

The nuclear-contaminated water, from the date of discharge, will affect all littoral states of the Pacific Ocean within a few decades, and the radioactive materials it contains will bring harm to the global marine environment for thousands of years, said Zhao, adding that it is extremely irresponsible for Japan to unilaterally decide to release the nuclear wastewater into the sea for the sake of saving money.

"I have pinned the tweet at the top. The illustration reflects the righteous public opinion and the call for justice, and the Japanese government needs to revoke the wrong decision and apologize," he added.
"

This is a very good example of showing where economics is a myth cover for the cult of global private finance making societal risk management decisions, regardless of the consequences.

The Fukushima nuclear power plants should have never been built but were because of growth/profit motives and the potential environmental concerns were cast as exogenous factors and disregarded.

Now those environmental concerns are real and the exogenous factors are nations that were probably not happy when the plants were built initially and are immensely concerned now about the potential environmental effects of pouring all that nuclear contaminated water into the Pacific ocean.

Poor risk management decisions made by people that have never have had to suffer the consequences of their actions could be the cause of our extinction, but the cosmological caravan will keep rolling along.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 29 2021 4:38 utc | 219

Below is a Xinhuanet posting that you will likely not read about in the West, nor see any similar movements towards by the West until forced to by starvation.

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BEIJING, April 29 (Xinhua) -- Chinese lawmakers on Thursday voted to adopt an anti-food-waste law at a session of the National People's Congress (NPC) Standing Committee.

The law will go into effect on the date of promulgation.

According to the law, catering service providers could charge customers who leave excessive amounts of food waste a disposal fee, but rates for the charge must be clearly advertised.

Approximately 18 billion kg of food is wasted every year in China's urban catering industry, according to a report based on nationwide field research carried out by NPC deputies.

The country also sees over 35 billion kg of grain loss at pre-consumption stages including storage, transportation and processing, said the report.
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Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 29 2021 4:52 utc | 220

@ psychohistorian | Apr 29 2021 4:14 utc | 219


more than 7,000 German enterprises in China and more than 2,000 Chinese companies in Germany have become an "active force" of bilateral cooperation.
The question for MoA barflies is what are the details of the investment agreement between EU and China that Merkel wants in force quickly?

I worked in one of the 7000.
I don't think Germany needs from EU.
Germany is the last remaining of european industrial capacity. Just want not to stay "stuck in the mud"


In terms of market access for EU businesses, China has made significant commitments on manufacturing, the most important sector for EU investment in China. Manufacturing makes up more than half of total EU investment – including 28% for the automotive sector and 22% for basic materials. This includes production of electric cars, chemicals, telecoms equipment and health equipment, among others.

https://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/press/index.cfm?id=2233


As Russia [see my last posting on Covid thread], China is pushing for partnership. EU Commission in Brussels, a bunch of non elected bureaucrats, lead by UrSofa WonderLying [and NATO] is pushing for submission to
Yankees.

Merkel is resisting Brussels's suicidal (for german industry / R&D) behavior (Russia, NS2, Sputnik V, China, B&R...) for a while .
For now "à fleurets mouchés"

But Germany's "maillon faible":most of the political establishment in Berlin is aligned with EU.

In my opinion, the fight is between two kind of capitalist. Traditional national and production centered [old German structure but still strong] and financial globalist one.

Posted by: Bernard F. | Apr 29 2021 7:15 utc | 221

suzan @ 204

The mRNA technology appears to me to be easily tweaked by altering the code to combat break through spike mutations

Already shilling for the third jab, uh, suzan?

I am not suggesting there is deliberate malign intent acting, rather conditions emerged from some unknown event whereby a crisis arose where opportunities manifested to perfect cutting-edge biotechnology, and wherein most participants believe their work will only be used to benefit humanity

Classic word salad...replete with altruistic dressing.

Are you plying for Anti-Vax Watch by any chance?

Posted by: john | Apr 29 2021 10:13 utc | 222

James: you're more than welcome :)

Synthpop and similar bouncing back was a surprise to me, I didn't see that coming at all :D

"Ghost in Your Stereo" (also from The Midnight) is another interesting one to me although I'm not sure I get the opening lines at all the rest of the lyrics make me think. They've made a lot I haven't heard yet. Another band/artist that's kind of similar but more instrumental is Robert Parker with the album "Club 707" (there are more albums from him too). I think "A Light in the Dark" 4:33 is the only vocal track and that one could easily have been a extremely large super-hit in the 80ies. I tend towards instrumental, here's "Back on Track" 5:45 but it's all good :)

On Covid it's become impossible for me to in any way keep up with the vast majority of it (S' link looks good) but I'm taking my chances on avoiding the jabs since I'm much more isolated than most people; everyone has to decide for themselves what might be correct (there's no guarantees either way).

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 29 2021 12:05 utc | 223

@ Posted by: john | Apr 29 2021 10:13 utc | 223

While I am not concerned or bothered by you trolling my posts, perhaps you might give consideration to the other barflies who have the ability to discern for themselves what my words mean. If you must reply to me, offer more substance in place of empty labeling.

From our initial engagement it was clear you are intransigent on this topic, having a firmly held view. I engaged with you because you asked me to, out of politeness.

As Bemildred pointed out many threads ago (and he did correctly interpreted my words), you are misinterpreting some of what I say. This could be due to native language culture gap, or not. And I agree with Bemildred that the decision to vaccinate lies with the individual.

All the best to you.

Posted by: suzan | Apr 29 2021 14:20 utc | 224

@ juliania | Apr 28 2021 22:01 utc | 217... thanks juliania... it is quite a beautiful piece of music... i am listening a 2nd time right now... might have to listen a few more times to let it sink in.. this reminds me of the idea that music has 2 very different pathways - one for entertainment type purposes and another for therapeutic or meditative purposes.. i know this simplifies the complexity of music, but this piece made me think of this again.. thanks for sharing...

@ psychohistorian | Apr 29 2021 4:38 utc | 220... thanks psycho.. i agree with the chinese on their position on this.. the japanese response seems really wrong here..

@ Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 29 2021 12:05 utc | 224... thanks! it is an style of music that i tended to avoid at the time! i might be dating myself.. i am in my mid 60's! however, there is beauty in this too.. i am listening to the robert parker song 'a light in the darkness' and like the melody and harmonic underpinnings... i think my problem with this style of music is how the drum parts are driven by computers - drum machine - and quite static in the rhythmic sense, from a drummers point of view! i wonder what would happen if they didn't have drums on it?? i think have gotten into it more! the other track - 'back on track' is really reminiscent of disco - more 70's then 80's... this is kind of like dance - trance type music! it has an uplifting quality that i always associate with and tend to look for in music!! hey - i am just a subjective person like everyone else and come to my positions in ways i don't even understand! i relate to your comments on covid... i like what @ suzan echos from @ bemildrid - "the decision to vaccinate lies with the individual." cheers and thanks for the music! james

Posted by: james | Apr 29 2021 15:12 utc | 225

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Parker_(music_producer)

Posted by: james | Apr 29 2021 15:17 utc | 226

suzan @ 225

Since the so-called pandemic broke over a year ago I determined pretty quickly that the virus in mind was not something the vast majority of people had to worry about much...beyond good sense, and I've seen nothing to this day to change my mind. The ensuing tyranny however, both medical and otherwise, I see as a massive crime against humanity, whose effects are profoundly, probably irreparably, altering society for the worse.

I consider the virus to be relatively benign, in the scope of other influenzas, and therefore vaccines to be unnecessary, not to mention experimental, unapproved vaccines whose long term effects are unknown. If this was the Black Death, a guinea pig situation might be acceptable...it isn't, so it's not. Not even close.

I don't recollect your commentary before a month or two ago, so when you showed up pushing the jab and dissing dissenting voices, voices that were/are being smeared, censored, deplatformed, and deleted as we talk, I felt obliged to say something.

And I still do.

I'm pretty sure the other barflies are perfectly capable of making up their own minds.

Posted by: john | Apr 29 2021 20:05 utc | 227

James: I mostly avoided it myself (I was into thrash and speed-metal but only actively avoided disco which I couldn't understand at the time) and yes sometimes drums or any kind of beat is misused as metronomes and that is a pet peeve that I have to "unfocus" on. I don't have a problem with it being static or repetitive unless it's a blatant tick-tock (or rather tock-tock lol).

However if I'm in a bad mood or shape I can manage to find that in nearly anything including in lovely stuff from Jaga Jazzist :) Btw here's "The Shrine" (9:06) just in case you haven't heard them, and also the "live" "Toccata" (5:39) which "betrays" them as the bunch of Norwegian monkeys they are :D

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 29 2021 20:30 utc | 228

James: And I just found this which has a "drummer moment" caught perfectly and might make you smile or laugh :) Jaga Jazzist performing "Starfire" Live on KCRW (8:51).

I'll stop now (really need to get some sleep).

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 29 2021 21:04 utc | 229

@225 suzan

I hope the personal attacks don't inhibit you from posting whatever you can in the future. As you say, a little substance would go a long way to making a useful comment.

I always read your comments, although I don't always agree with your viewpoint. I'm glad to see you here. I understand your time is very limited so I'm especially grateful for your effort. When you do post, you tend to offer solid material, and I know that this takes time to compile and write out.

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@228 john - "I don't recollect your commentary before a month or two ago"

She's an infrequent commenter, time-limited. Personally, I do recall other comments of hers, and I have benefited from them greatly. As I said to her, she does tend to offer solid material - enough such that, if one doesn't agree with her viewpoint, one can actually speak to the material offered.

I realize this comment of mine isn't very substantive, but you made it about persons rather than ideas.

Posted by: Grieved | Apr 29 2021 21:29 utc | 230

John wrote:

I see as a massive crime against humanity, whose effects are profoundly, probably irreparably, altering society for the worse.
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There is a good argument to be made that you are 100% wrong. Business as usual is really the crime and not just against humanity but against all life. The virus interrupted the crimes in progress regardless of what else it did or did not do or will do in the future.
How exactly is it harmful or altering society for the worse to get people to hop off the rat-race treadmill for a while? The real problem as I see it is that this will all end and people carry on as if it never happened. It would be better if its effects were indeed irreparable.

Now I could take a page from your playbook and accuse you of being a shill for TPTB that run this rat race, but that would be stupid - they could certainly spend their money purchasing the services of someone who was more persuasive.


Posted by: jinn | Apr 29 2021 22:36 utc | 231

@ Sunny Runny Burger.. i am surprised i haven't heard of this band jaga jazzist before! they are quite good.. i enjoyed all the videos you shared.. thanks... i was reminded a bit of the usa band snarky puppy.. but they are different.. i enjoyed them all, but i liked to see the drummer one in particular...they are like 3 brothers in that band.. here is one of snarky puppy here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuhHU_BZXSk i think many of them met at music school and then continued on..

there was a band called atomic from norway that i saw live and really thought they were great... they had one or two members from sweden as well.. they are more avant garde... fun band jaga jazzist.. i really admire what they are doing.. thanks!

Posted by: james | Apr 30 2021 1:23 utc | 232

Grieved @ 231

I realize this comment of mine isn't very substantive, but you made it about persons rather than ideas

I first engaged suzan when she showed up and defamed Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche as being some kind of uneducated hack.

Reflect, dude.

jinn @ 232

The virus interrupted the crimes in progress regardless...

Hahaha...that's a good one!

Posted by: john | Apr 30 2021 9:17 utc | 233

@S #209
I looked at the paper you referenced - the United States data in particular.
It says that the US has experienced 500K official and 580K excess deaths due to COVID as of Feb 2021.
This is utter bollocks, and it becomes clear why when I read this:

We took the officially reported COVID-19 death counts from the Johns Hopkins University dataset (https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19) (Dong et al., 2020) as distributed by Our World in Data. To find the number of officially reported COVID-19 deaths at the time corresponding to our excess mortality estimate, we assumed that all weekly data conform to the ISO 8601 standard, and took the officially reported number on the last day of the last week available in our dataset.

Or in other words, their model is tuned to the official data set.

Or put another way: if COVID truly killed 500K to 580K more Americans than "normal", then total mortality - as in actual deaths, period, for 2020 should be (2019 deaths) 2854838 times 1.2 (20% from this "study") = 3428505 deaths. That's including the 503K official COVID deaths - not the extra 77K deaths which said "study" extrapolated.

I guarantee you we will not see 3.4M deaths in the US for 2020.

If you actually look at the historical trend for the non-COVID top 10 causes of death for Americans, you'll note that every single one was increasing since 2013.

Raw CDC Wonder data for annual mortality in the US by year:
2010 - 2,468,435
2011 - 2,515,458
2012 - 2,543,279
2013 - 2,596,993
2014 - 2,626,418
2015 - 2,712,630
2016 - 2,744,248

Wonder data ends 2016 at this moment. As you can clearly see - annual mortality has increased every single year from 2010 to 2016.

In this context, the 2.85M deaths for 2019 are at least sensible.

Given the historical trend: it is very likely that deaths in 2020 would have been 2.9M, give or take - So the base is likely 2.9M.

Preliminary data is saying 3.3M deaths in 2020 = 14% increased mortality. Of course, we don't know what impacts the lockdowns have overall. Flu deaths = 22K in 2019 are down, but the increases in homicides, suicides, overdoses etc are likely to offset that.
What about the effects of job/business loss = suicide rate impact in 2020 and in the future?
What about the likely decreases in cancer, heart disease, etc deaths in 2021, 2022, 2023 - as people seriously ill with those diseases were "accelerated" by COVID?

We will see over time, but it is 100% clear that the official COVID death numbers are inflated to some degree. The question is how much: is it double? Is it 50%? Is it triple? It likely isn't quadruple and it certainly isn't an undercount.

So yet again: COVID is a terrible disease.
COVID has had a real impact.
It isn't really serious though - if we compare the opioid deaths as apparently not being serious.
Opioid overdoses are easily on par with COVID deaths albeit spread out over more years - yet we didn't have lockdowns on opiates, nor massive government spending to alleviate opioid overdose and abuse suffering, etc etc.

Posted by: c1ue | May 1 2021 13:51 utc | 234

@c1ue 235
I agree (of course) that calculating the "COVID deaths" as a portion of excess deaths makes much more sense than as 'deaths with COVID'.

May I, however, suggest an even geekier approach:
It would seem reasonable to assume that when COVID goes away, we will see a few years with lower mortality rates -- because a large number very old and very sick people have died 'from COVID' in 2020-21. If we compare mortality estimates in the following years with the actual mortality numbers, we could calculate an estimate of the number of years lost to COVID!
How about that?

Posted by: Mao Cheng Ji | May 1 2021 14:30 utc | 235

Talking about mortality, it would be interesting to have a real study of how many dead per total cases or per total hospitalized, because obviously, some countries kill you more than others (e.g. USA, UK, Belgium, France, compare to Switzerland, Singapore, Taiwan, Australia?).

Posted by: Mina | May 1 2021 15:15 utc | 236

@Mina 237,
'total cases' is a meaningless metric, a function of the number of tests, and testing practices (do you test random people or only symptomatic?).

Also, a 'COVID death' might be defined as 'death with COVID' in some places, and in other places as 'cased mostly (or even solely) by COVID'. According to CDC, only 5% of the 'COVID deaths' in the US are cased solely by COVID.

And the criteria for when people need hospitalization probably vary too.

Posted by: Mao Cheng Ji | May 1 2021 19:15 utc | 237

In France, it seems mainly to be that people are hospitalized when they have a shortness of breath, and then depending on co-morbidities, they get either oxygen or are directly intubated. Do they find covid in the serology when people are admitted directly via the emergencies?

Posted by: Mina | May 1 2021 19:29 utc | 238

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