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April 11, 2021
The MoA Week In Review – OT 2021-027

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:

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Other issues:

Myanmar / Fake news:

> At least 82 people were killed in one day in a crackdown by Myanmar security forces on pro-democracy protesters, according to reports Saturday from independent local media and an organization that keeps track of casualties since the February coup.
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The Associated Press is unable to independently verify the number of deaths.

The death toll of 82 was a preliminary one compiled by the Assistance Association for Political Prisoners, which issues daily counts of casualties and arrests from the crackdown in the aftermath of the Feb. 1 coup that ousted the elected government of Aung San Suu Kyi.

Their tallies are widely accepted as highly credible because cases are not added until they have been confirmed, with the details published on their website.
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The online news site Myanmar Now also reported that 82 people had been killed, citing an unnamed source involved with charity rescue work. <

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Ahh, the Myanmar version of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights in Britain:

The "Assistance Association for Political Prisoners" is run from Thailand by Ko Bo Kyi who is a fellow of the CIA offshoot National Endowment for Democracy. Myanmar Now does not say who finances and runs it but its donation account is with the Commonwealth Bank of Australia in Sydney. The National Endowment for Democracy lists 77 current grants for organizations related to Myanmar / Burma with an average grant size of some $75,000. That's a hell lot of money in a rather poor country.

The whole anti-government protests are now obviously a 'regime change' operation run by the CIA. It includes 'moderate rebels' who are killing soldiers. But the real target is not Myanmar but China's Belt and Roads projects in Myanmar like pipelines, railways and harbor operations in the country. That is why Chinese companies in Myanmar are set on fire. There is no chance for this operation to win against the ruling military so all this will just fuck up another country 'because we can'.

Covid-19:

Brexit:

I am on the record saying that Brexit will blow up North Ireland and that it is likely to leave the Union.

The Brexiteers made three promises with regards to Brexit and North Ireland:

    • Leaving the single market and custom union with the EU
    • No border between North Ireland and Great Britain
    • No border between North Ireland and the Republic of Ireland

These three promises are logically incompatible. Only two of the above can get fulfilled at a time.

Media:

The New York Times knew of an upcoming Israeli attack on an Iranian ship but did not publish about it,<

> Haaretz and others have reported that an individual who leaked the operation’s details asked the reporter to wait with its publication, after the defense establishment had decided to postpone it by one day.
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Eventually, the operation was successfully carried out a day after its original date. Its details were then published by the media outlet that originally received the leaked information – presumed to be The New York Times. <

Use as open thread …

Comments

Both Debsisdead @94 and gottlieb 3 comment about sabotage of the centrifuge facility in Natanz, Iran and the Iranian sea vessel attacked in open waters- last week.
https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/incident-reported-in-iranian-natanz-nuclear-facility-664792
Apparently the electric grid and basic infrastructure were destroyed and a below water line hole was inflicted on the vessel? The sabotage may have been designed to influence regime change operations in coming in June elections in Iran, to tip the balance in negotiations concerning the non nuclear agreement, and to attract China closer to Iran.
But Iran officials say, the attack actually accelerated implementation of pending technical advances as the new stuff will be installed in the rebuild.
Does anyone know who actually planned this operation, who actually conducted it? Who authorized it? Can any show What the attack actually destroyed (show us some satellite pictures) ? Iran says it has apprehended insider persons involved so we may know something sooner than later.
Yemeni drones, missiles hit Aramco refineries, military sites in Saudi Arabia
Monday, 12 April 2021] can anyone speak to which facilities were hit?
War draws closer.

Posted by: snake | Apr 12 2021 11:48 utc | 101

Another COVID Myth Dies The Death

How many years will it take before people can come to terms with the embarrassing and scandalous reality that much of what posed as Science last year was made up on the fly and turns out to be wholly false?

This is a reality that people need to consider and not let cognitive dissonance get the better of them.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 12 2021 11:58 utc | 102

A bit of info on Myanmar–
“A disunited nation
The foundation for Myanmar’s longstanding ethnic conflicts was laid during British colonisation, which began in 1824. British colonisers imposed racial categories and hierarchies of favour to divide and rule the population. During World War II, ethnic groups, such as the Karen, fought on the side of the British against the Burmese, hoping to get in return an independent state.”
Myanmar has never been a nation.

Posted by: arby | Apr 12 2021 12:42 utc | 103

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 12 2021 11:58 utc | 102
Thanks for reminding everyone here that you are just a troll who is blatant enough to link to an unscientific article from the fucking American Institute for Economic Research. Yes, that neoliberal (Austrian wing) institute closely allied to the Atlas Foundation, Cato, and the fossil fuel lobby.

Posted by: v | Apr 12 2021 12:50 utc | 104

@v | Apr 12 2021 12:50 utc | 104
You are welcome. I was especially thinking about people with cognitive dissonance who react with anger when their world view is challenged, and attack the messenger in order to avoid considering the message.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 12 2021 13:39 utc | 105

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-april-11-2021-n1263752
Yet another example of the crazed, immoral character of US media in pushing towards nuclear war – and no one calls them out for it. No one seems responsible enough to reply, “will you be satified if we launch a full nuclear strike tomorrow? Would that be enough for your ratings?” It’s often difficult to find anyone in authority to simply acknowledge that Russia and China have nuclear missiles and may use them if they are cornered or if they perceive that a strike is imminent. And there is this collective psychosis resulting in huge piles of conventional weapons as if such could be used against Russia/China without ending the world.

Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 12 2021 13:43 utc | 106

Posted by: v | Apr 12 2021 12:50 utc | 104
v, the source of the article is a symptom of coordinated blackout on all authoritative sources that have from beginning questioned the hysterical response to the not-the-plague.
however, since you are a covid mental zombie, a reminder that Covid Farts are more dangerous than 2nd hand smoke. All major superpowers and wannabes are offering a complementary Covid Anal Plug (AstraUranus from America, YuriPlugHerIn from Russia, SteckerVonAnalStein from EU & ThePeoplesLongPlug from China among the most popular) to protect us from the not-the-plague.
Are you wearing yours?
Norwegian: Have the globally coordinated media informed (“explained”) the meaning of a “case” to covid mental zombies?
“We have found traces of semen in this woman’s vagina. Conclusion: She is pregnant”.

Posted by: Mōnandæg | Apr 12 2021 14:03 utc | 107

@Mōnandæg | Apr 12 2021 14:03 utc | 107
I try to avoid the globally coordinated media as much as physically possible, so I wouldn’t really know, but based on what I have been involuntarily exposed to the answer is ‘no’. It is a key point, I agree.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 12 2021 14:27 utc | 108

Interesting rumour posted in the comments by Auslander at The Saker website

The Armed Forces of Ukraine in Donbass were left without satellite communications, GPS and SEC equipment due to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (Sevastopol News Portal)
According to the news-r.ru portal, in the Donbas, the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were subjected to a “radio strike” due to electronic warfare from the RF Armed Forces, and now they are left without GPS.
Now the Ukrainian army does not have the opportunity to use its UAVs, radars, radar reconnaissance systems and other instruments for confrontation. This information was shared by the Chinese edition of Sohu. According to the newspaper, the OSCE reported a surge in activity to suppress signals. Such maneuvers contribute to the emergence of opinions that the escalation of the conflict is already close.

That seems like a rather definitive blow if correct….

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 12 2021 14:43 utc | 109

Where are the Western Green Parties on this?
Western media absent as Tokyo is about to dump radioactive water
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Can Biden Be Our F.D.R.?
No.
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Fed chair Powell warns against reopening the economy too soon amid new spike in cases
Translation: our crappy vaccines don’t work against the new Brazilian variant and we’re fucked.

Posted by: vk | Apr 12 2021 15:04 utc | 110

@ juliania | Apr 11 2021 22:54 utc | 39… thanks! yes – michael hudsons articles are worth reading and i find his insights helpful in better understanding the financial dynamic at work, even if it is somewhat depressing… my brother encouraged me to watch a richard werner interview – this is the fellow responsible for the documentary ‘princes of the yen’ which i found so fascinating and educational…. here is a link to a long interview with him if you are interested..
How Banks Work & Dictate the Economy – Interview with Danielle DiMartino Booth & Richard Werner
jb 32 / john 98.. i will try to find some time to watch the 51 minute video.. thanks…

Posted by: james | Apr 12 2021 15:20 utc | 111

PR China made a rail connection to the EU through Kazakhstan and Russia for their exports. This can also transport Russian or Iranian oil.
Why would they need a road connection to Pakistan through the Himalayas in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir? Polluting, technically difficult and controversial, an geopolitical decision, not to get to Arab oil.

Posted by: Antonym | Apr 12 2021 15:26 utc | 112

that video i shared @ 111 is quite good.. if you want a small taste go to 28 – 30 minutes and listen for 2 minutes…

Posted by: james | Apr 12 2021 15:51 utc | 113

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-april-11-2021-n1263752
US media in pushing towards nuclear war – and no one calls them out for it. by: Eighthman 106 <= u did and no one cared.. The question <=why does no one cares if the actions the nation state take might wipe them off the earth? Maybe you can explain it better than I, but IMO, the political systems that reside inside each of the different nation states are like customer complaint departments in department stores. You can get your money back if you scream loud enough, but nothing will change <=cause the political system c/n do anything about how the oligarchs in charge use the nation state system. . it is not within the power of the politicians who answer to those the system governs to change any structural or functional part of the nation state [the politicians are store keepers, but keeping the governed returning to the store is a giant part of the Oligarch imposition of divide and conquer strategy. Keeping the political store front between the Oligarch and the governed, is a major function of MSM <=truth is the oligarch could care less what the people do or think along as the politicians keep them at bay]. That is why it is useless to say Russia or Israel or Uk did this or that.. name the parties responsible for directing the nation state to do this or that. to understand the answer to your question.

Posted by: snake | Apr 12 2021 15:59 utc | 114

Re: Budesonide
That is great news that Budesonide has shown good effects on moderate covid symptoms. Does this fall into the cytokine storm effects of covid where inhibiting the immune response with steroids is a way to mitigate the effects? It sounds like it.
Budesonide is a relatively harmless steroid when compared to the popular systemic prednisone. It is broken down better by the body and has far fewer side effects than pred.
I have taken it for years for crohns and have a nice stockpile. I can maybe offer it to acquaintances who run into covid complications.
With all these therapies, vitamin d and zinc, why do we need a gene-altering mRNA drug which was brought by Big Pharma and DARPA-funded Moderna? Or J&J vaccine containing aborted fetal cells?
No thanks!

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 12 2021 16:20 utc | 115

If there is one thing that a would be Machiavelli cannot abide, it is restraint.
This shall not stand!
Russia has but team Z in a time out!

Posted by: jared | Apr 12 2021 16:36 utc | 116

Mōnandæg | Apr 12 2021 14:03 utc | 107
I will relay that good news to my niece who lies intubated as her premature infant struggles for life

Posted by: ld | Apr 12 2021 16:39 utc | 117

It is interesting to see how readily Joe Public is to yield his liberty.
Should be pretty much clear sailing from this point.
I can see why they are taken lightly.
Give me liberty or give me $1000 and an IPhone…
OK, just $1000 then.

Posted by: jared | Apr 12 2021 16:40 utc | 118

b
can we curtail some of these asshats in the name of decency?
please

Posted by: ld | Apr 12 2021 16:44 utc | 119

Brought my kids to see latest Godzilla.
I was inspired to realize that exposing ones-self to juvenile, simplistic, sloppily executed entertainment, not only does not promote intellectual growth (as would be expected), but actually reduces intelligence in that it lowers perspective from which we view the world to a simplistic and juvenile level.
So, mental note, continue the avoidance of Wapoo/NT Times.
The less you read, the more you know.
Interesting that the movie was centered on Hong Kong – Xi and Putin as Godzilla and Kong duo and “West” as Mecha-Godzilla. The little girl was definitely channeling Greta and the evil daughter was Nuland.

Posted by: jared | Apr 12 2021 16:52 utc | 120

The V-104! (The overheated and frothing at the mouth version)
It’s hard to reason with the Branch Covidians, and when you do try they go ballistic. Take the V-104, it simply cannot endure a narrative being so mauch as questions and it flies into a rage attacking everything it sees as even the remotest threat. Although really terrible for most applications it was discovered that if it could be convinced of a threat, it would invariably hurl itself at it. Thus many a V-104 was expended in attempts to destroy fortified bunkers, which explains why they are in short supply. Poor V-104…

Posted by: Chevrus | Apr 12 2021 17:09 utc | 121

Mōnandæg | Apr 12 2021 14:03 utc | 107
I will relay that good news to my niece who lies intubated as her premature infant struggles for life
Posted by: ld | Apr 12 2021 16:39 utc | 117
can we curtail some of these asshats in the name of decency?
please
Posted by: ld | Apr 12 2021 16:44 utc | 119
It is not “decency” that concerns you. It is any intelligent discussion of these matters.
Are we to understand that prior to not-the-plague, no one’s relative ever fell victim to a disease?
What is it about the phrase “hysterical response” that escapes your comprehension?
What is it about the critique of lying global media hysterically claiming “[thousands] of new cases” when a “case” — a case being that of an infected individual prior to “new normal” and “new science” — is apparently simply having trace amounts of signifier molecules in one’s nasal cavity? (Did the pregnant analog go over your “grieving but decent” head)?
Entire world has been turned upside down and globally — hi there snake — a systemic rejection of human rights are being handed down by client states of the emerging Global Government.
And based on what? Willful alternation of long standing medical norms, definitions, methodologies, and procedures for dealing with a disease.
You covid mental zombies (and the globally coordinated media that dictates your talking points) are insistent on silencing any dissenting voice and view. That is what is “indecent”.
And it is perfectly clear why that is the case. None of this hysteria can stand the light of reason, facts, and actual science.
Posted by: ld | Apr 12 2021 16:44 utc | 119

Posted by: Mōnandæg | Apr 12 2021 17:36 utc | 122

There was this interview with Al-Jolani and when he said HTS was no enemy of the US I thought he had a point. So did IS. Their aims are local and regional. There may be spillover, the attacks inside Europe, but these were mainly about deterrence: leave us alone (while we kill everyone here who is not us) and we’ll leave you alone. That also applies to the other fundamentalist militias who more or less aligned with the Brits or the Americans.
So Bin Laden overstepped a bit, it happens. Even then it’s debatable whose interests that served.

Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Apr 12 2021 19:06 utc | 123

@Posted by: jayc | Apr 12 2021 6:45 utc | 88:
Surprised victory? Not me, I’m not surprised. Being in Empire’s backyard, the opposite would’ve been a surprise.
I’m sure michaeljose must be brooding right now.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 12 2021 20:00 utc | 124

Wondering which EU politicians will be on the board of a pharmaceutical company two-three years from now…

Posted by: passerby | Apr 12 2021 20:42 utc | 125

@ Posted by: Mōnandæg | Apr 12 2021 17:36 utc | 122
It is I think human nature (or at least man’s nature) to want to be taken care of and to yield responsibility to some greater authority – even the wife.
I see it most strongly in the youth.

Posted by: jared | Apr 12 2021 22:29 utc | 126

The desire to have something to blame.
To live through a crisis.

Posted by: jared | Apr 12 2021 22:31 utc | 127

To some extent, sure. It is a natural in a social species. We have a long maturation phase under care of parents/guardians, and most certainly are trained in that period to take direction, to respect authority, etc. Not all of it is necessarily negative.
But these zombies have entirely lost sight of their own self interest! Not a single one of them apparently stops to ask:
Why is everything that we, individuals and “little people” cherish is on the table for reconsideration, including the long understood right to refuse to be subject to unwanted medication, but the right of corporations to profit from the not-the-plague-hysterics and “new normal” is sacrosanct?
Something deeper is going on. This past year has been borderline mind control territory. It may be an subconscious expression of actual fear. Possibly they have cottoned to the cold inhumanity of the overlords and this is not “human” response but a more canine like cowering that wags the tail for the cruel master that beats it.
Never in my wildest dreams did I think I’d ever see something like this. This is something out of dystopian sci-fi novels.

Posted by: Mōnandæg | Apr 12 2021 22:55 utc | 128

The Israel lobby can interfere in the internal affairs sovereign nations with impunity:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uk-israel-lobbyists-alan-duncan-interference

Posted by: Paul | Apr 12 2021 23:30 utc | 129

I agreed completely, I would not have belied it.
But I welcome truth good or bad – now I know and shame on me if I am not willing to learn from what the evidence reveals.
People do not believe in freedom of expression or even thought really. People do not love their brother. People do not have empathy or any genuine concern for others. People do not believe in rationality or science or objectivity or intelectual curiosity. Thank God I have a good dog, a good wife and great kids and enough to eat for now.

Posted by: jared | Apr 12 2021 23:39 utc | 130

@b
You’re not very good at counting, are you? ‘Two months of silence’ was in reference to the fact that your one and only post on the situation in Myanmar was, in fact, posted two months ago.
As for what my sources are, well, all the pictures of people with their brains splattered over the pavement, for a start. Now you can just dismiss that all as fake, but that kind of Twitter evidence is at least as good as the type of stuff you cite regularly.
For the sake of argument, let’s say that the body count is massively inflated. Instead of 700 corpses, let’s say that the Myanmar military has only killed 100 people. Is that not enough for you to issue even a mild condemnation?
I guess to you it’s all just taking out the trash. After all, it’s just a ‘fake color revolution’, you assure us.
You’re like an inverted American Exceptionalist; to you nothing can happen in the world without it being a CIA plot. No one anywhere has any agency of their own in your mind.
I’m sure that the CIA and other American actors are creeping around the edges of events in Myanmar. They would be foolish not to take advantage of events to push their agendas. But that doesn’t mean the events themselves aren’t fundamentally a domestic affair.
But then again, I’m talking to a guy who is confident that the Tiananmen Square protests were another foreign engineered ‘fake revolt’, despite the fact that the ‘evidence’ he posts that student leaders were American intelligence assets actually says nothing of the sort. But you see what you want to see, based on your preconceived narrative.
@Hoarsewhisperer
This may be the most bizarre case of whataboutism I’ve seen in a long time. Yeah, Israel is a brutal, apartheid shithole. It also wasn’t the subject I was discussing.
And yes, in a way, what’s happening in Myanmar is ‘legal’. Burmese democracy, such as it was, existed at the whim of the military. A solid argument can be made that there actually was no coup, and that the military is within its legal rights. ‘Legal’ doesn’t always mean the same as ‘right’.

Posted by: Ben | Apr 12 2021 23:46 utc | 131

Sixty years ago, Soviet cosmonaut Yuriy Gagarin became the first human to journey into space. There’s very little coverage of this major anniversary in the Western media:

The only Western journalist to show normal human emotions was BBC News’ Moscow correspondent Steven Rosenberg:

Steve Rosenberg @BBCSteveR – 18:00 UTC · Apr 12, 2021
My musical tribute to the original Rocket Man: I play one of Yuri Gagarin’s favourite melodies, Tenderness by Alexandra Pakhmutova. @BBCNews @BBCWorld @BBCScienceNews @BBCRadio3 @BBCRadio4 #Gagarin60
[video]

Posted by: S | Apr 12 2021 23:52 utc | 132

“I’m sure that the CIA and other American actors are creeping around the edges of events in Myanmar. They would be foolish not to take advantage of events to push their agendas.”
This has been going on for at least a month. There’s a lot of genuine pictures with comments like “The murderous coup is backed by China” going on, when the internet is actually turned on there around. Which of course makes no sense, because China has pretty much no dog in the fight; it was content with the way things went, it would be content with the military ruling and content with NLD ruling. But to be blunt, there’s no point to exchange a gang of most probably corrupt assholes for a gang of violent corrupt assholes, it doesn’t bring any advantage to China. Just like it makes few sense for the West to support NLD to hurt China, as long as China doesn’t seriously back the military. But the ongoing BS about China being behind the coup might create a Catch-22 for Beijing – either stay silent and let things follow their course, and gain the loathing of a lot of people in Myanmar, or put some pressure on the military if not downright disavow it, and risk losing some credibility when it comes to “internal affairs are strictly internal affairs and we don’t interfer”.
At least , sooner or later, China will have to be clearer on that policy – for instance, it could back the current ruler at the time the policy is officiallized, and condemns any illegal change or violent removal attempt, but if such a thing were to happen, it would back the previous “official” government. Though not interferring at all is way simpler a message and a policy, but it leaves China open to losing allies because the other side will interfer and try to topple China’s allied governments, and in this case, “no interference” means losing allies and appearing weak.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Apr 13 2021 0:02 utc | 133

Correction:
NBC did post an article (syndicated AP article) about the anniversary: Soviet cosmonaut made pioneering spaceflight 60 years ago. Sorry, was looking at the wrong NBC home page.

Posted by: S | Apr 13 2021 0:03 utc | 134

You should read this in full:
https://foucault.info/documents/foucault.disciplineAndPunish.panOpticism/
I have to say I truly admire Foucault’s mind, and even forgive him for being a “philosopher”.

Hence the major effect of the Panopticon: to induce in the inmate a state of conscious and permanent visibility that assures the automatic functioning of power. So to arrange things that the surveillance is permanent in its effects, even if it is discontinuous in its action; that the perfection of power should tend to render its actual exercise unnecessary; that this architectural apparatus should be a machine for creating and sustaining a power relation independent of the person who exercises it; in short, that the inmates should be caught up in a power situation of which they are themselves the bearers. To achieve this, it is at once too much and too little that the prisoner should be constantly observed by an inspector: too little, for what matters is that he knows himself to be observed; too much, because he has no need in fact of being so. In view of this, Bentham laid down the principle that power should be visible and unverifiable. Visible: the inmate will constantly have before his eyes the tall outline of the central tower from which he is spied upon. Unverifiable: the inmate must never know whether he is being looked at at any one moment; but he must be sure that he may always be so. In order to make the presence or absence of the inspector unverifiable, so that the prisoners, in their cells, cannot even see a shadow, Bentham envisaged not only venetian blinds on the windows of the central observation hall, but, on the inside, partitions that intersected the hall at right angles and, in order to pass from one quarter to the other, not doors but zig-zag openings; for the slightest noise, a gleam of light, a brightness in a half-opened door would betray the presence of the guardian. The Panopticon is a machine for dissociating the see/being seen dyad: in the peripheric ring, one is totally seen, without ever seeing; in the central tower, one sees everything without ever being seen.
It is an important mechanism, for it automatizes and disindividualizes power. Power has its principle not so much in a person as in a certain concerted distribution of bodies, surfaces, lights, gazes; in an arrangement whose internal mechanisms produce the relation in which individuals are caught up. The ceremonies, the rituals, the marks by which the sovereign’s surplus power was manifested are useless. There is a machinery that assures dissymmetry, disequilibrium, difference. Consequently, it does not matter who exercises power. Any individual, taken almost at random, can operate the machine: in the absence of the director, his family, his friends, his visitors, even his servants (Bentham, 45). Similarly, it does not matter what motive animates him: the curiosity of the indiscreet, the malice of a child, the thirst for knowledge of a philosopher who wishes to visit this museum of human nature, or the perversity of those who take pleasure in spying and punishing. The more numerous those anonymous and temporary observers are, the greater the risk for the inmate of being surprised and the greater his anxious awareness of being observed. The Panopticon is a marvellous machine which, whatever use one may wish to put it to, produces homogeneous effects of power.
A real subjection is born mechanically from a fictitious relation. So it is not necessary to use force to constrain the convict to good behaviour, the madman to calm, the worker to work, the schoolboy to application, the patient to the observation of the regulations. Bentham was surprised that panoptic institutions could be so light: there were no more bars, no more chains, no more heavy locks; all that was needed was that the separations should be clear and the openings well arranged. The heaviness of the old “houses of security”, with their fortress-like architecture, could be replaced by the simple, economic geometry of a “house of certainty”. The efficiency of power, its constraining force have, in a sense, passed over to the other side — to the side of its surface of application. He who is subjected to a field of visibility, and who knows it, assumes responsibility for the constraints of power; he makes them play spontaneously upon himself; he inscribes in himself the power relation in which he simultaneously plays both roles; he becomes the principle of his own subjection. By this very fact, the external power may throw off its physical weight; it tends to the non-corporal; and, the more it approaches this limit, the more constant, profound and permanent are its effects: it is a perpetual victory that avoids any physical confrontation and which is always decided in advance.

Posted by: Mōnandæg | Apr 13 2021 0:04 utc | 135

@ ben,
you used to post at moa much more frequently… i don’t share your view here, but i am happy you are sharing your viewpoint.. do see what @clueless joe says about this.. i don’t think it is a stretch to suggest a number of intel agencies including the cia have a presence in myanmar…. who is playing who and what is the long term game at work?? we were reading about the rohinga plight or worse a year or two back… was that muslim extremism exported from ksa to give myanmar a black eye, or was it all legit??? it is hard to know what is or isn’t legit… but i think you are right that b takes an altered or contrary view to the western msm… i share a similar approach… look at the latest article highlighting russian aggression according to the cnn… what is that?? do you think it will be any different when innocent people get killed/murdered with the likes of cnn?? do you think the coverage on the ukraine coup, or the military grade chemical agent – novichok which seems unable to kill sergei skripal or alexi navalny – is this all just a coincidence, or have the western intel agencies gotten a good grip on the msm so that they can propagandize us 24-7? i tend to think the later, but i am receptive to having some of it wrong.. cheers..

Posted by: james | Apr 13 2021 0:19 utc | 136

@james #111
Thank you for the heads up about the interview with Werner. Here’s the original video at Danielle DiMartino Booth’s YouTube channel:
How Banks Work & Dictate the Economy — DiMartino Booth — Down the Middle with Richard Werner (1 h 19 min).

Posted by: S | Apr 13 2021 0:27 utc | 137

With regard to why, I dont know,
but it comes from the owners, largely directed at distruction of small business and idividual wealth and eliminating the concepts of liberty, rights and education. Something to do with rejigging the economic system.

Posted by: jared | Apr 13 2021 0:29 utc | 138

@ S | Apr 13 2021 0:27 utc | 137
thanks s! the video is quite good.. i recommend it.. and yes – that is the same video…. anyone into michael hudson would benefit from listening to richard werner and if they haven’t seen his documentary – princes of the yen – free on youtube – i recommend that too!~

Posted by: james | Apr 13 2021 0:58 utc | 139

Related:
Midnight Express – A Bad Machine
“A good Turk always walks to the right”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shlBZZ-IQYY

Posted by: Mōnandæg | Apr 13 2021 1:26 utc | 140

Don’t know why so many commenters are suffering bilious attacks in this thread, but insulting others is a perfect way to make sure your comment has zero effect, other than to waste the time you took to write it.
It’s why society invented courtesy, so that no one would trip over personal differences, and could share communication effectively.
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@107 Mōnandæg:
I assume you’ve read the latest Lin Dinh. I can’t help but find the joke funny, after a year or more of terror. Sorry you drew out the censorious.
@109 Norwegian:
I don’t know how you scrolled that far to find Auslander’s comment, but many thanks for doing so. As you know, people regard Auslander as a pretty straight source, living in Crimea as he does, and with his military connections. He seems to be citing Sevastopol sourcing for the news. Amarynth, the editor at Saker, seems ready to run with this news so I assume we’ll hear more tomorrow. As you say, it’s a masterful blow if true.
Disabling the entire Ukie capacity to wage war is exactly the kind of simple thing the Russians would do, having waited first for France and Germany to agree that there is no alternative to the Minsk agreement. Auslander says this betokens the advent of the clash, but I suspect that it means the walking away in shame of the Ukraine from the Donbass. I look forward to hearing more about this.
@121 Chevrus:
It’s always good to read your rare comments. Nice job on that noise.
@139 james:
Thanks for the Werner link. The comments at Tube suggest she let him speak without interruption – the sign of a great interviewer. And he’s a man worth letting speak. I always download anything with Werner in it. I look forward to digesting this at leisure.

Posted by: Grieved | Apr 13 2021 2:02 utc | 141

@102 Norwegian
Thanks for the ZH link – too bad it drew the crazy.
The conclusion especially fits with the article that b links to in his review: The Gaslighting of Science. It’s an excellent article, for any who may not have read it yet.

Posted by: Grieved | Apr 13 2021 2:13 utc | 142

Michael Hudson’s latest interview is really rather depressing given reality, not the daily reporting of lies. Here’s the last question he’s asked and his response:
“What are you seeing really coming up in the next six months or so, as these eviction moratoriums and bad debts and so forth start to really weigh down on society?
“Michael: Nobody can tell. Nobody that I know can tell even how far the stock market is going to go up. To us, wait a minute, where’s the reality underlying this? Nobody I know can really tell. All they can do is follow the crowd and hope to be allowed in a hurry when they see the crash. And there’s no way of knowing when a crash comes because somewhere there’s a break in the chain of payments and that causes a disaster, but there’s no way of knowing when the disaster comes.
“Australia is willing to act as a victim and do pretty much whatever the United States and Britain (which does everything the United States tells it to do) tells it to do. So the United States is going to put its own interests first, England’s interests second, and Australia is going to be pretty far down the line. It’s a country that lets itself be victimised. So I don’t know what the forecast for Australia is. You never know how much and how deeply people can be victimised until they fight back. All you can do is squeeze and squeeze and squeeze and maybe some day somebody will fight back, but that point has not arrived either in America or England or Australia yet. So there’s no reasonable forecast, except things are just going to get tighter and tighter and tighter and all the income will be more and more concentrated in the top one percent.”
And the closer:
“Michael, any concluding comments to round up another interview?
“Michael: I’ve never been so unable to forecast the future as I have now, because you keep expecting people to act in their self-interest, that’s the assumption underling all political theory, but people are not building in their self-interest, they’re not actin gin their self-interest. The whole economy seems to be self-destructing and you and I are talking about this happening and I talk with a number of other people and I put the interviews on the website we’re the webmaster for. There are a few good sites, like Naked Capitalism, that talk about it, but all we can do is watch and say my heavens, how long can it go on? And nobody knows when it will stop.”
And as Hudson says, the future within neoliberal afflicted nations is so clearly unknown, whereas that of the collective nations like China and Russia is very well planned, organized and underway. I’ve tried to describe the two sides in this very dire competition that’s a war against people and their defenders. Here’s how Hudson puts it:
“They’re not commercial rivals with the same system.
“What’s really in rivalry is a different economic system.”
What Marx though would eventually become a humanistic, democratic Socialism versus the financialized parasitism of NeoFeudalism.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 13 2021 3:14 utc | 143

California is going to burn in 2021:
FMC at record low at Santa Cruz Mountains region

Posted by: vk | Apr 13 2021 4:47 utc | 144

@Mōnandæg | Apr 12 2021 22:55 utc | 128

Never in my wildest dreams did I think I’d ever see something like this. This is something out of dystopian sci-fi novels.

Yes, I guess it proves certain philosophers right.
“In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.” – Friedrich Nietzsche (1844–1900)
Just over a year ago I also would never believe something like this, but I recognized it for what it was in mid March 2020.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 13 2021 5:17 utc | 145

@Grieved | Apr 13 2021 2:02 utc | 141
Thank you very much for that comment. I am aware who Auslander is and that’s why I found the information very interesting indeed. And no, I didn’t just scroll, I read many of the posts.
We will have to wait and see what comes up next. I hear there is an upcoming summit in the Normandy format. Perhaps that can provide some clarity, and even a resolution of the crisis. We shall see.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 13 2021 5:29 utc | 146

@Grieved | Apr 13 2021 2:13 utc | 142
It is cognitive dissonance. After having participated in “climate debates” for many years, this is nothing new. The shock and awe effect that propaganda has on many people who are unprepared causes a psychological commitment, i.e. it manufactures a world view that they will defend violently even if it is entirely fictional.
When such a world view is challenged, the anger displayed is not because they sense you are wrong, but because they sense you are correct. This subconscious understanding conflicts with the psychological commitment and is a source of the anger.
We are observing a lesson in pathological science. One of its characteristics is “Ratio of supporters to critics rises up to somewhere near 50% and then falls gradually to oblivion.” . I am hoping we have reached the peak and are now observing the gradual fall to oblivion.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 13 2021 5:41 utc | 147

Norwegian @109/146
Spot Report 6/2021: SMM long-range UAV unable to take off due to dual GPS signal interference
KYIV 
7 April 2021

On the evening of 6 April, an SMM long-range unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) was unable to take off from its base in government-controlled Stepanivka (54km north of Donetsk) to conduct regular monitoring of areas on both sides of the contact line, due to dual GPS signal interference assessed as caused by jamming. This is the first time such interference has prevented a take-off since the Mission launched long-range UAV operations in October 2014.
Since 21 March 2021, the SMM’s long-range UAVs have been experiencing increased levels of GPS signal interference on take-off and landing, affecting both of their GPS receivers, in areas near their base in Stepanivka, located approximately 25km west-north-west of the contact line.
During pre-flight trials of the long-range UAV on the evening of 7 April, jamming at ground level persisted, impairing safe operation.
High levels of GPS signal interference with either or both GPS receivers have also been encountered during the UAVs’ regular flights. Over the last two months, 62.5 per cent of SMM long-range UAV flights encountered GPS signal interference, and on 75 per cent of the affected flights, it occurred more than once.
The Mission notes that, in each case, the source of GPS signal interference could have originated from anywhere within the radius of tens of kilometres from the UAV’s position.
Any GPS signal interference hinders the Mission’s ability to conduct effective monitoring and reporting of the security situation in line with its mandate. Long-range UAVs are an essential part of SMM operations, especially at night and in areas where the Mission’s monitoring and freedom of movement are restricted.
The Mission underlines that OSCE Permanent Council Decision No. 1117 specifies that the SMM shall have safe and secure access throughout Ukraine. The mandate also tasks the Mission to report on any restrictions of its freedom of movement or other impediments to fulfilment of its mandate.

Posted by: pogohere | Apr 13 2021 6:32 utc | 148

Weaponising Phil the Greek
According to the englander fishwraps, the BBC propagandists received an unprecedented number of complaints (more than 100,000) over the BBC decision to cancel all scheduled programming across all four TV channels then replace those soap operas & infantile game shows with wall to wall coverage of Brenda’s number 1 prick, who had shuffled of this mortal coil that day.
Of course in addition they also received complaints about having received so many complaints.
This is the bloke who the BBC once demonstrated had attempted to organise a military coup in england to replace Prime Minister Harold Wilson with . . . you guessed it . . himself!
So I realise it may seem equally infantile, but I’ve been climbing on the BBC Complaints site via an england VPN and clearing out all BBC cookies after each complaint and then whining about this travesty as much as any englander.
It is inevitable that the plethora of citizens pissed about missing east-enders or whatever will be described as putinbots or useful idiots, no matter whether done or not, so why not get in first and log in from a russian VPN describe the coverage as ‘worse than Pravda following Brezhnev’s death’ or “more mourners at VI Lenin’s wake”, or whatever.
We can never put together as many IP addresses as the NSA or even GCHQ but we can confuse them to buggery & have a laugh doing so.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Apr 13 2021 6:41 utc | 149

Drosten once mentioned his astonishment that in Germany there had been for quiete a while a discussion if children can infect others despite there relatively low viral load. Yes, they can, and from a purely scientific point of view that might indeed have been clear pretty early. Drosten, however, is ignorant about what HUGE practical impact that has. Working all day long with a mask and washing your hands every five minutes or so is annoying but it is at least feasible. Closing schools and kindergardens on the other hand inevitably means shutting down -half of everything-. At least one of the parents has to be at home to watch the children at any time – there is just no other option.
I don`t believe anybody ever had the conscious intention to “gaslight” the aerosol scientist. It´s just the same kind of denial at play for the same reason. Aerosoles being the dominant way of infection has HUEGE practical implications. The notion that other mitigation strategies could have been easily implemented – like focusing on the ventilation systems – is nonsense. The vast majority of all buildings don`t have an active ventilation system that could be upgraded. Indoor aerosoles being the dominant way of infection means that the only effective way to fight the epidemic is to shut down as many public buildings as possible – schools, workplaces, shops etc. – there is just no other option.
It also has a range of other implications that are highly insightful:
– The innitial finding from China that transmissions within the family have been the biggest factor has been confirmed. It´s just not direct contact but arosoles in the common family apartment.
– There is finally a reasonable explanation why the case numbers in developing countries – usually the most vulnerable societies for infectious diseases – are so suspiciously low. Due to the warmer climate people tend do spent more time outdoors.
– It explaines why mass protests – like the BDS-riots in the USA last year – didn`t lead to a spike in cases.
– Possibly most surprising the “Covidiotes” happened to be right from the beginning in rejecting masks as ineffective. They add little value outdoors where aerosoles aren`t stable anyway and they provide insufficient protection indoors (for instance when you have to spent 8h a day inside a room with an aerosole because that`s your workplace.)
(…)

Posted by: m | Apr 13 2021 7:18 utc | 150

https://asiatimes.com/2021/04/__trashed-7/
Can any North Korean scholar confirm any of the infos in the above article?
If that’s true, it’s also grim for North Korea. We desperately need North Korea as a military force in the region, too bad Vietnam cannot help them much.

Posted by: Smith | Apr 13 2021 8:16 utc | 151

@pogohere | Apr 13 2021 6:32 utc | 148
Thanks! So it looks like it is real then…

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 13 2021 10:17 utc | 152

What are rare earth metals and what are they used for? (CGTN, Arij Limam, April 13, 2021)
The article reports U.S. Geological Survey statistics on rare earth metals reserves and mine production as of 2020 (in metric tons of rare earth oxides):

    RESERVES
China 44,000,000 36.7% Vietnam 22,000,000 18.3% Brazil 21,000,000 17.5% Russia 12,000,000 10.0% India 6,900,000 5.7% Australia 4,100,000 3.4% Greenland 1,500,000 1.2% United States 1,500,000 1.2% Tanzania 890,000 0.7% Canada 830,000 0.7% South Africa 790,000 0.7%
Others 4,490,000 3.7%
World 120,000,000 100.0%

MINE PRODUCTION
China 140,000 57.6% United States 38,000 15.6% Myanmar 30,000 12.3% Australia 17,000 7.0% Madagascar 8,000 3.3% India 3,000 1.2% Russia 2,700 1.1% Thailand 2,000 0.8% Brazil 1,000 0.4% Vietnam 1,000 0.4% Burundi 500 0.2%
Others 0 0.0%
World 243,200 100.0%

Interestingly, Myanmar does not even make the list of top 11 reserve holders, i.e. it must have less than 790,000 t of REO, and yet it is currently the third largest producer at 30,000 t of REO annually (and growing, if you look at the chart in the article). At these rates, it will be stripped of rare earth metals in about a decade.

Posted by: S | Apr 13 2021 10:20 utc | 153

@ S
Ha, so it seems Asia is blessed with rare earths, this could be why Asia also loves electronics so much.
That or Asia is overly exploited in this, and the americans and europeans are just holding into their sources.

Posted by: Smith | Apr 13 2021 11:19 utc | 154

Just had a look at Ecuador’s presidential election results, and they don’t make any sense:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Ecuadorian_general_election#Results
Uber-liberal Lasso winning the 2nd round after losing the 1st to the left candidate and being at the same level as leftist indigenist candidate is just not realistic or possible, it would mean that the bulk of Pachakutik voters actually voted for him instead of Arauz or merely going with blank / fuck-you-all ballots. I just can’t see how this would happen.
More informed and knowledgeable commenters might be able to correct me or explain this big riddle to me, because from where I sit, this looks like dodgy results – way more than US 2016 election Bolivia 2019, or any Russian election in the last 20 years, all of which have been subjected to various accusations of frauds.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Apr 13 2021 11:52 utc | 155

m @ 150
“There is just no other option.”
There is always an option.There is always an alternative.
To the smaller point of ventilation. This was pursued very strongly in 1919. By public health departments. Even the smallest residence has a ventilation device called a window. What we have done is encourage the fearful to seal the windows and stifle themselves. Which has bad health consequence. Moralizing fearmongering and “no option” thinking is why we have a problem. The moralizer and fearmonger is always above the fray, above criticism. While being the whole problem.

Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 13 2021 12:06 utc | 156

Interview: Adaptation of Marxism to Chinese context key to CPC’s success, says Iranian politician
–//–
Several U.S. states shut down Johnson & Johnson vaccine sites after adverse reactions reported
Also according to the RT reporting, it seems the J&J causes blood cloths because it essentially is an AstraZeneca ripoff.
So much for the vaunted “American innovation spirit”. More like American IP theft.
–//–
Elon Musk leaves Vladimir Putin stranded on Earth, by Clara Ferreira Marques, for Bloomberg
“Clara Ferreira Marques is a Bloomberg Opinion columnist covering commodities and environmental, social and governance issues.”
Not a specialist in the area. Highly ideological article for the commemoration of 60th anniversary Korolev’s sending Yuri Gagarin to space.
–//–
Opinion: Now is the time for a Third Reconstruction — abolishing Jim Crow once and for all
Second FDR, second New Deal, another Marshall Plan, Third Reconstruction… the USA is starting to pay too much attention to its mythological past. Not a good sign for an empire.
–//–
Russia to send three missions to Moon by 2026

On Cosmonautics Day on April 12, Russian President Vladimir Putin held a meeting with heads of the space industry and government members on the space research program. According to Sergeyev, it was confirmed at the highest level during the meeting that the government would restore financing of scientific space exploration under the federal space program, which would amount to 15 billion rubles ($195 million) a year.

Another trivia is in this article:

“The USSR actively participated in this and the first soft landing was made by the Soviet Union. And the last Luna-24 probe that brought back lunar soil was the last mission of that period for conquering the Moon,” Sergeyev said.

It is now known that the USSR never intended to send a man to the Moon. It already knew there was no water on it (besides vestigial water in the form of “sweat” on its surface) and, therefore, it was not economically viable to do so. It decided to send unmanned probes – which it did, and did first.
Nowadays, the landscape is a little bit different: space exploration is a fully economically viable field (that’s why the Chinese decided to enter the space race these last decades, and not for propaganda purposes, as many in the West theorize) and, with reusable rockets from both China and Russia coming soon, man presence in the Moon – even a lunar base – may become viable. Sergeyev also mentions there’s been an ice build up on the Moon (from comets shocking with it over the years), which would give us a source of hydrogen and oxygen. Interesting, didn’t know that.
–//–
75 years later, Europe is carved up again:
Western insistence on Russia paying Ukraine rent to use old Soviet-era gas pipelines drives Moscow away from EU & towards China
As some cynical historian would say: the European never fully recovered from the fall of the Roman Empire.
–//–
Oops:
Taiwanese Dollar Plummets as Joe Biden Government Set to Designate Taipei as Currency Manipulator
Taiwan wanted to build the impenetrable shield and the unbreakable lance. The problem is they are made of silicon – a very fragile material.
Don Quixote has already taught us what happens to a rat that thinks it’s an elephant.
–//–
Desperate Soviet bureaucrats desperately trying to save the system at the end of the 1980s, colorized:
America Needs to Empower Workers Again: Unions aren’t obsolete, and we need to get them back, by Paul Krugman, NYT.
The Economy That Allows You to Get Your Job Done Is Broken: President Biden understands that caregiving is infrastructure, and that all families need it, by Molly Kinder and Martha Ross, Brookings Institution.
We Need an Infrastructure Package for Nature, by Paul Greenberg and Carl Safina, Safina Center.

Posted by: vk | Apr 13 2021 14:09 utc | 157

Thanks to b for the added link he has given to a short article on the Ukraine problem by Nicolai N. Petro of the American Committee for US-Russia Accord. A quick read-through brings up a lot of questionable assertions, but this paragraph got my attention:

In the Oresteia trilogy the Greek playwright Aeschylus presents an alternative approach, which links the compassionate transformation of the individual to the creation of new social institutions. In this way the former Enemy can be made a stakeholder in society, and false Justice (vengeance) is replaced by true Justice (compassion). I gave a long talk about this last month, which can be found on YouTube at “>https://lnkd.in/dGT_kCh.

Any time classical Greek literature is mentioned, my ears prick up, and particularly when the mention is of that monumental trio of plays, since that reference is dear to my heart (as Dostoievski would say.) I will be going to the professor’s long talk next, bearing in mind that segments of his short article are troubling, to say the least.
I can, however, already see positive aspects of the above paragraph in applying the plays to an analysis of the Ukraine problem, and I thank b for pointing us in this direction. I did also note that the top line of the ACURA site lists an archive for Stephen M. Cohen, so the author of the piece, Petro, is at least in good company, and gave it as an address in Moscow at the beginning of the month.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 13 2021 14:16 utc | 158

Posted by: @uncle tungsten #76 | Apr 12 2021 5:00 utc | 81
Alibaba is so 2010s, the real e-commerce in China hotness is Pinduoduo wtih far less middlemen taxes.

Posted by: J W | Apr 13 2021 14:16 utc | 159

Norwegian @147
“I am hoping we have reached the peak and are now observing the gradual fall to oblivion.”
I rather doubt that. There are still surprisingly many people in shopping centers etc. without masks. Though the number of people in ‘demonstrations’ is down to rather miniscule numbers.

Posted by: Jimmy-6Pack | Apr 13 2021 14:20 utc | 160

@Jimmy-6Pack | Apr 13 2021 14:20 utc | 160

I rather doubt that. There are still surprisingly many people in shopping centers etc. without masks.

That observation serves as an experiment testing your hypothesis that we are not observing the gradual fall to oblivion. But as you confirm, we do.
“If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b240PGCMwV0

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 13 2021 14:40 utc | 161

Don’t worry about me, I mask up, like an increasing number of my fellow citizens. Believe me, the oblivion is pretty damn near. That WAS my observation.

Posted by: Jimmy-6Pack | Apr 13 2021 15:16 utc | 162

I’ll add to what I wrote at 158 that the long talk (given last month) linked by Petro in the paragraph I included there is an excellent explanation of the Aeschylus trilogy and tragedy in general as far as relevance to political conflicts is concerned. He ends by noting that tragedy is the vehicle by which personal wisdom can be measured against collective wisdom, and promises an additional talk explaining the relevance of this to the situation in Ukraine.
I think what he is describing is a good explanation for the manner in which Russia has been attempting to retain Ukraine as a political entity. This doesn’t match with some of his article’s statements however, so I’m unwilling to embrace it as an overarching assessment.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 13 2021 15:18 utc | 163

Iran raises the pot by increasing enrichment to 60% and adding 1,000 more centrifuges at Natanz facility after attack by Occupied Palestine.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 13 2021 15:51 utc | 164

From karlof1 @ 143:

“…as Hudson says, the future within neoliberal afflicted nations is so clearly unknown, whereas that of the collective nations like China and Russia is very well planned, organized and underway. I’ve tried to describe the two sides in this very dire competition that’s a war against people and their defenders…”
Given my above comments on the analysis given by Petro, I would say that his lecture linked in his article on Ukraine applies even more definitively to the confusion elaborated on by Hudson.
Perhaps our neoliberal TINA advocates need to be all assembled in a Greek amphitheater (out in the open) and forced to watch Aeschylus’s trilogy from beginning to end. After which, each individual being exposed to the catharsis the Greek populace experienced, some healing drops of collective empathy might trickle down into their souls.
Most certainly, I would ascertain that at present they are under the influence of the Furies and the situation does seem hopeless indeed. With dialogue seemingly impossible to generate, I suggest the Uighar situation in China might further be a model to follow. From what little we know of that process, its positive aspects are restoration of citizenhood to a society within the state without the negation of its culture. Somehow that has to apply to our one percent idiots.
It would be a kindness.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 13 2021 16:10 utc | 165

james @111, apologies – I didn’t mean to ignore your suggestion, but I had to do a bit of research on Richard Warner, and I see that he investigated very thoroughly what happened in Japan with the Central Bank playing a somewhat negative role in that country’s financial troubles.
I have to say on economics that I am a babe in the woods, and will have to leave it up to experts for those discussions. Looking at Werner through the eyes of wikipedia (which I know is not always trustworthy) I do see he advocated for or supplied the term quantitative easing – which I’m trying to determine as a policy as it seems to be a way of keeping things from going bust while accommodating the 2 percent. He’s for a separation of powers, it does seem, as far as banks are concerned, but on the financial capitalism aspect, I’m rather hesitant to push my brain any further than that. Thanks for the recommendations though!

Posted by: juliania | Apr 13 2021 17:52 utc | 166

juliania @165–
I’m currently traveling across our nation and have had an opportunity to see conditions and interact with locals in a few states. A few states have lots of activity and are short of labor to man the ongoing build-out, while elsewhere–I’m on the West Virginia/Virginia border now–the poverty is dramatic and is reflected by an epidemic of opioid and meth that’s highest in the nation. Hudson describes the boarded-up stores in NYC, and I could report the same from here and elsewhere within this particular region. But such a blanket description is incorrect as amidst the old, rundown and ruined are new buildings that reflects the very uneven nature of outcomes as some get ahead while many more are left behind and are clearly in the wrong region if they hope to better their condition. And that situation forms the basis in the disparity between the actions of Russia/China and the USA. IMO, Biden’s “infrastructure proposal” looks more like a shotgun blast instead of several well placed rifle shots that target the development of Human Capital. I don’t agree with the numerous negatives raised in this article, as too little is aimed at the very serious situation caused by socio-economic disparities caused by the last 40+ years of failed policies.
After I finish my visit with my daughter, I’ll be visiting my in-laws who live on the Alabama/Georgia border, which is yet another region of very uneven development and resulting social problems. I’d like to hit the Rustbelt region, but our trip’s priorities won’t allow that, although I’m getting a partial picture. As with the situation in NYC, will people return to the abandoned storefronts and open new businesses only to be starved of customers who can’t afford to pay the rents?

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 13 2021 17:53 utc | 167

Sorry, meant to say “Werner” above,correction to 166.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 13 2021 17:55 utc | 168

@ juliania | Apr 13 2021 17:52 utc | 166.. thanks juliania! no worries… we can’t be well versed in everything! i hope you are getting some gardening in.. i got the onions and potatoes planted , along with the broad beans which i got off to a late start… peas have been in for a good 2 or so weeks as well… our garlic is looking very good this year.. we have about 90 heads out in the front yard… the thing about richard werner.. he is quite knowledgeable… you might enjoy the documentary – princes of the yen’ which is free on youtube.. it gives a good overview of what happened in japan in the 90’s and which could easily happen here in the west too… he has a strong understanding of finances and banking as i understand it and he is fun to listen to… that might not be his best video interview, but i think it is quite good because he does most all of the talking as grieved noted above! cheers james
@ 167 karlof1… thanks for your traveling post.. that sounds so sad about the opiod crisis in west virginia and etc… enjoy your travels and keep on posting when you can!

Posted by: james | Apr 13 2021 17:58 utc | 169

Thank you, karlof1 @ 167. Nothing can beat on the ground observation. Have a safe trip, and we look forward to hearing more about what you see. I haven’t been back in that part of the world since I graduated from college – used to travel by Greyhound from California back in those days, even sleeping on the bus overnight. It’s an epic journey…enjoy!

Posted by: juliania | Apr 13 2021 18:02 utc | 170

Thank you james, garden is good, though as always we could use some rain. But hey, although it looks very dry out on the plains, the mountains have had snow on them, still do, so we are not in serious drought yet as a lot of that snow will replenish the rivers and reservoirs. I’ve seen it worse with no snow retained there all winter, and the plains scoured of all vegetation other than cacti and junipers (with even the latter experiencing some die-off.)
I did enjoy a comprehensive program on the Everglades on PBS last night – unfortunately it ended before we really got into the global climate change scenario. And I’m glad karlof1 is seeing some positive along with the negatives as he travels. Might be Biden feels he has to use his shotgun approach, given his time may be limited – I know how that feels! And I remember that was FDR’s mantra also – throw everything against the wall and see what sticks.
I am noticing on blooming fruit trees that we do have an abundance of large fuzzy-grey bees that are definitely more menacing than the honey bees and scare the latter off — don’t know what that portends. But I am planting more insect-loving annuals where I can – the dearth of insect life in general is alarming. We used to get the migrating monarchs – love them as we have them aplenty in New Zealand. I’ll know we’re accomplishing something if and when I see them returning.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 13 2021 18:31 utc | 171

Lavrov met with Zarif today; afterwards they held a presser during which Lavrov made the following comment during his general remarks:
“In elaboration of the steps to consolidate our legal framework, today we agreed to draft another intergovernmental agreement on cooperation in biological security, which is becoming more relevant when such threats are growing and there is an absence of control and verification mechanisms to ensure the transparency of all countries’ activities in this area. Our US colleagues are strongly against creating a multilateral universal mechanism of this kind under the Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production and Stockpiling of Bacteriological (Biological) and Toxin Weapons and on their Destruction (BWC). We and our Iranian friends, just like many other partners of ours, believe it is necessary to follow bilateral channels in order to ensure transparency in this essential area.” [My Emphasis]
Given what’s been said recently and experienced on this topic, the Outlaw US Empire’s refusal seems very much like an admission of guilt, rather similar in its refusal to ratify the Universal Declaration of Human Rights so it can act unilaterally, which is to say illegally/immorally.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 13 2021 18:54 utc | 172

@ 171 juliania… thanks for the overview from where you are… it has been much drier then usual here… apparently california is having a drought.. i can see that given we usually get a fair amount of rain, but this past winter we have had very little… it seems like climate change to me, but i realize i am only seeing a small part where we live.. what kind of bees are those large fuzzy grey ones??? what was unusual this past year was seeing bees way late and early into winter… that suggests much warmer then usual weather for us… we don’t see yellow jackets in november or december ever… fruit trees haven’t started to bloom here, except some japanese ornamental plum or some other types.. so, some blooms, but not as much as elsewhere i am sure…

Posted by: james | Apr 13 2021 19:36 utc | 173

Lavrov was asked several questions about JCPOA at the presser. He referred to the EU’s latest sanctions on Iran as an attempt to “sabotage” the Vienna talks, and provided this final comprehensive answer:
“The only way of restoring the JCPOA lies in the US fully returning to the implementation of all of its commitments that were approved by the UN Security Council. Washington flagrantly violated them at its own discretion. Moreover, the US adopted many laws that prohibit all other countries from implementing UN Security Council Resolution 2231. Only Washington’s full return to observance of UN Security Council Resolution 2231, without any exceptions, provides a way out of the current situation. Otherwise, we will create a dangerous precedent of treating international law in a way that may backfire on us unexpectedly in some other areas of human endeavor.
“I listed the American laws aimed at introducing an enormous number of sanctions against Iran. However, Iran also has a parliament that has adopted a law on strategic measures with a certain timeframe that is taken into account during the current contacts in Vienna.
“I don’t think we have a lot of time. Obviously, those who want to bury the JCPOA are resorting to various provocations just because there is a certain timeframe.
“I hope common sense will prevail and our European colleagues will realise their responsibility for the JCPOA and won’t follow in the wake of those who want to wreck and bury this agreement.”
IMO, once NS2 becomes operational, gas transit via Ukraine will drop dramatically if not cease altogether, and a major internal crisis will erupt there. I see nothing positive comng from the Vienna talks, and given the Outlaw US Empire, the EU3 and EU’s continuing violation will cause its demise by year end. The EUP’s refusal to ratify the trade deal with China and its economic sanctions will further diminish overall EU GDP. The EU’s relations with all non-Neoliberal nations will reach a new low that will impede economic recovery from the pandemic which will continue to rage.
Meanwhile, Eurasian connections will continue to boom, and we might see indications of progress toward a Persian Gulf collective security agreement that becomes more imperative daily. The argument for people centered development IMO is solved for the Global South and that’s going to draw a geopolitical line of unknown consequences.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 13 2021 19:39 utc | 174

Ecuador – 6% differential between winner and 2nd place, while an amazing 16% of the ballots were “invalid”, many of these deliberately spoiled as a form of protest vote by Pachakutik supporters. Ecuador will now become leading S American country in adopting specifically anti-China policies as dictated by US State Dept. (specified by Moreno-Pompeo last autumn), on top of neo-liberal “reforms”.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/04/13/right-wing-banker-pulls-upset-win-ecuador-over-leftist-champion

Posted by: jayc | Apr 13 2021 22:27 utc | 175

@ jayc | Apr 13 2021 22:27 utc | 175
man, but that sounds depressing… how can they spoil 16% of the votes and get away with it?? this Pachakutik guy sounds like a dipshit, or a tool for the empire… lawfare.. i hate that word…

Posted by: james | Apr 13 2021 23:09 utc | 176

@ S 153 & @ Smith 154
Rare earth minerals are not so rare, the ability to process the ore to metals is dirty and complicated. Australian miner ASM has huge deposits and clean South Korean technology. Lynas also has huge deposits processes.
Myanmar actually has something rare, tin deposits. According to the excellent new book ‘The Rare Metals War, by Guillaume Pitron, translated from French, the worlds tin supply will last between 6 to 17 years depending on usage. The London Metals Exchange possessed only a couple of days supply last month. Currently Myanmar exports most of its tin production to China. Presumably for printed circuits and soldering. Tinned copper wire is needed for boats. Don’t expect China to punish Myanmar for human rights abuses.
Meanwhile, speaking about the worlds premier human rights abuser, Israel. There has been a major victory for a real [non selective] human rights campaigner, Australian, Melissa Parke and the growing BDS movement:
https://johnmenadue.com/john-menadue-melissa-parke-successfully-settles-defamation-case-against-pro-israeli-commentator/

Posted by: Paul | Apr 13 2021 23:28 utc | 177

@172 and 174 karlof1
This is interesting language from Lavrov – many thanks. Let me spin it out into a high-altitude speculation.
We have long discussed the information war, and many have said for years that the west leads in that war, with the various “resistance” countries woefully behind the curve. To this, I have long argued that Russia and China act in ways that change paradigms rather than trying to counteract propaganda in its own words.
What we seem to have been seeing for some time now are Russia and China setting out the various terms of a framework of accusations against the west, and these may appear somewhat theoretical at first glance, but nonetheless, together they form the parts of a coherent whole.
And while these words may seem powerless today, imagine a situation where they suddenly held actual power – at such a point, what would the US stand accused of, and who could even attempt to defend it against these charges?
~~
So I think that – perhaps – the game plan is increasingly to spell out the crimes and dereliction of the US (and Europe), partly to uphold international law, and partly to create a catalog of the untenable position of the US.
In the same vein, the US has been attempting to build a propaganda case against China with the ultimate goal of removing China from the UNSC – or so we surmise.
What if a similar game were being orchestrated by the resistance nations, the multi-polar world? What if some day it is the USA that stands to lose its seat at the UNSC?
The imagination blazes like a wildfire trying to consider all the possible ramifications from such a scenario. But I am developing the tiny suspicion that many of these ramifications already form part of the long-range war games that the Kremlin and others engage in, quietly and deep in their basements.

Posted by: Grieved | Apr 14 2021 0:17 utc | 178

@ Paul
I have no comment on the China vs Myanmar human rights abuse things, human rights are basically just a talking point nowadays.
But that does confirm the americans and europeans are just holding onto their sources, they would rather exploit Asia and other continent’s resources, devious.

Posted by: Smith | Apr 14 2021 0:24 utc | 179

@166 juliania
Allow me to offer some thoughts on Richard Werner, and the banking game that he increasingly reveals to the light of day.
He’s a professor, and talks like someone accustomed to thinking in lecture terms, but he obviously has the soul of a decent human. Like Hudson, he’s held tenure at universities and also worked for major financial institutions.
He coined the term “quantitative easing”, and this is where what he does gets interesting. He basically observed what the US central bank was doing and put a word to it. This term became useful enough that everyone started using it. But notice that Werner observed what was being done and named it. This seems to be his signature activity.
This latest interview that we’re talking abut revealed something I hadn’t known. Namely, that for the three main competing theories of how (and even if) banks create money, he actually performed scientific experiments to test each one, and concluded, scientifically, that banks create money, out of nothing, by loaning it into existence.
He published his results in 2014. In 2016, the Bank of England published its own paper explaining that yes, in fact, banks do create money, out of nothing but debt. In other words, Professor Werner observed and described what the banking system was doing, and the banking system was ultimately compelled to agree that this was so.
One can speculate that without Werner and his paper, there would be no Bank of England paper. One could surmise that the system of banking does not reveal what it actually knows about how it operates unless it is forced to, and then only in the most frugal of measures.
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So this leads me further into the wilds now, with an overarching view of economics and banking in general.
Economics is intended, I believe, to be obscure. It is a system of misdirection and disinformation. If lay persons can’t use their “common sense” instincts to understand finance, this is not because the subject is beyond their ken, but because finance is largely a fiction – a crime disguised as a transaction.
For example, we know that one of the Rothschilds quite long time ago said something to the effect that he cared not who made the laws of a country if he could only issue the money. He obviously understood something in completely coherent terms that no mainstream wisdom ever imparted to the ordinary populace.
So my guess is that deep in anonymity where the ultimate owners of banking systems reside, the true nature of economics is understood in very clear and simple terms, and has been so understood for hundreds of years.
But if you understood what they understood, and benefited from the systems that they controlled, then you too would foster the mis-education of the entire populace so that lay persons would not understand how their money was created, and at what cost to them.
I can remember a time when in the national and global discourse, commentators and experts were not even sure what created inflation. Gradually, populist efforts forced the knowledge that inflating the money supply caused rising prices. Gradually, inflation came to be simply understood in the mainstream. Notice that this true knowledge is actually quite simple, rather than mysteriously complicated.
Notice also that the knowledge was advanced from the bottom up, and not from the top down.
And that’s what Richard Werner does, and that’s why I prize him and his work.

Posted by: Grieved | Apr 14 2021 0:54 utc | 180

Grieved @180–
Obfuscation of basic economics is why Hudson published J is for Junk Economics, the companion book to Killing the Host. Fundamental economics were well known by those called the Classical Economists, who were in fact political-economists as there was no separate subject known as economics at the time. The deliberate change began @1870 in England as Hudson details, and the practice of banking furthering the rise of industrial capitalism began to diminish and replaced by financialization. The events that occurred between 1890 and 1930 were the first attempt to establish the Neoliberal paradigm but failed. Hudson explains some of this here, but much more is revealed by studying the conversation surrounding WW1’s war loans. Further understanding of the growing difference in systems can be seen in Germany’s reindustrialization prior to 1938, and studying the Pecora hearings on the bankers and war material suppliers. Yes, it takes lots of time but a great deal is revealed. FDR and Wallace knew and tried to point the nation in a different direction, but the Vested Interests were too powerful and too well placed, so the massive profits made from rebuilding Western Europe were then plowed into finance instead of the further promotion of human capital. Would Hitler’s Nazis become financialists instead of industrialists is a very good yet seldom asked question? We know what American Industrialists became–Financialist Nazis.
On the line of thought you forwarded on the other thread, I highly suggest reading this short missive that the publishers distill to the following and melds with my postulation that the conflict is now between Anti-Human forces and those that are Pro-Human:
“What is in progress is a clash between people and nations who support normal human values and the part of the Western elite which preaches post-human values.”
I find the term “post-human” an obfuscation of sorts. The core of the crux is explained as follows:
“The dead-end reached by the West in the deontological competition was keenly noted by Russian political scientist Sergei Karaganov in a recent Serbian ‘Sputnik’ interview[Link at Original]. ‘What is in progress is a clash between people and nations who support normal human values and the part of the Western elite which preaches post-human values.’ Speaking for his country Karaganov pointedly stressed that ‘we stand for human values and that is potentially a far sharper disagreement than what used to exist between communism and capitalism.’
“Has Russia any sympathizers in the West?
“‘Yes, of course she does,’ Karaganov was quick to respond. ‘Not just in the West but throughout the world, ninety percent of which consists of normal people who share belief in normal values, who wish to live and bear their children in peace, for elders to be respected, and that people should be free to devote themselves to what they most highly cherish – family and fatherland.'”
Woke and Cancel are the polar opposite and are clearly weaponized culture.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 14 2021 2:09 utc | 181

Over at ZH is a posting of an interview by Matt Taibbi of Norm Chomsky and below is the last answer of that interview
”
Noam Chomsky: Well, actually, manufacturing consent is much easier now. And it goes on at a level that’s never happened before. Fox News, Breitbart, the rest of them have succeeded, along with the administration and the GOP generally, in creating a large mass of the population, almost half of it, which is living in another universe.
I mean, take a look at the poll results. They believe things that are just so far from reality, that it’s even hard to talk about. That’s very effective. The mainstream media, CNN, New York Times, the rest, have done the same on other issues.
Take what we’ve just been talking about. Take, say, the so-called Iranian threat, the return, the efforts to deal with it. This is described everywhere as, “Iranian nuclear weapons is the greatest threat to world peace. We’ve got to do something about it.” Where’d that come from? What makes them a threat to world peace?
I mean, is it the reports of US intelligence? No, not at all. What they tell us is, if Iran is developing nuclear weapons, it would be part of their deterrent strategy. Well, the US government doesn’t like a deterrent strategy, nor does Israel. That’s why they’re attacking Iran constantly.
The countries that rampage in the region don’t want deterrence. How about telling people that? Anybody read that anywhere? How about simple ways of solving the problem, if you think it’s a problem?
There’s a very simple way, if you think Iranian nuclear weapons are a problem. Let’s move to establish a nuclear-weapons-free zone in the region, with intensive inspections, which we know work very well.
US intelligence agrees that the inspection regime under the JCPOA was working perfectly. So let’s extend it, and make it a total weapons-free, WMD-free zone in the region, get rid of nuclear weapons.
What’s blocking that? The United States, period. Everybody else is in favor of it. Iran’s strongly in favor of it. The Arab States have been in favor of it for 25 years, with no protests from Europe.
Every time it comes up, the United States, most recently from Obama, it’s coming up again in a couple of weeks. It’ll be vetoed again. What is that? Everybody knows the reason. It’s just, you’re not allowed to say it.
The reason is, the United States will not permit Israeli nuclear weapons to be inspected. In fact, the US does not recognize their existence, even though everybody knows they’ve got a huge arsenal. And there’s a reason for that, US law.
According to US law, countries that have developed nuclear weapons systems outside the international framework, cannot receive US aid. Nobody wants to open that door. How about that for the triumph of manufacturing consent?
Here’s what’s called the greatest threat to world peace, an elementary way to overcome it, we can’t carry it out, and nobody can talk about it. That’s way beyond the WMD story in Iraq. I mean, there, maybe some of them actually believed it? Okay. Here, there’s nothing.
I mean, there are things like this all the time. That’s manufacturing consent at such a level, that you can’t even see it.
”

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 14 2021 2:48 utc | 182

In his latest analysis, The Saker points to this:
“Last Sunday, Margarita Simonian, the head of Russia Today, said something very interesting on a Russian TV show”
but omits the show’s name and doesn’t provide a link, which IMO is very poor scholarship. When you read his paraphrase of her words, you’ll see why I want to hear/read them for myself, and others will too. If others draw a blank, I’ll try tomorrow.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 14 2021 2:55 utc | 183

Below is a link to the latest posting at Wall Street on Parade
Margin Debt Has Exploded by 49 Percent in One Year to $814 Billion. The Actual Figure May Be in the Trillions. Here’s Why.
That whole casino of margin calls now has another casino layer on top of it called derivatives….and when the music stops, the entity holding the derivative winner will hold Senior Position over all other financial instruments in the US…think about that….one derivative to rule them all…..what will it be like to try to execute that derivative?….grin

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 14 2021 4:19 utc | 184

Below is a quote from a Xinhuanet posting about a virtual meeting on the 13th with Chinese Premier Li and over 20 US multi-national corporations
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BEIJING, April 13 (Xinhua) — Chinese Premier Li Keqiang said on Tuesday that China welcomes the active participation of companies from the United States and around the world in its reform and opening-up, as well as its modernization process.
Li made the remarks during a virtual dialogue with U.S. business leaders, with board chairmen and CEOs from the U.S.-China Business Council and over 20 U.S. multinational companies in attendance.
Promoting the healthy and stable development of China-U.S. relations is the common aspiration of both peoples as well as the international community, Li said.
He called upon the two sides to implement the consensus reached by the two heads of state and uphold the principles of non-conflict, non-confrontation, mutual respect and win-win cooperation, respecting each other’s core interests and major concerns, enhancing dialogue and communication, expanding practical cooperation and properly handling differences.
“The essence of economic and trade relations between China and the U.S. is mutual benefit,” said Li, adding that such a relationship benefits the two peoples as well as world peace, stability, development and prosperity.
Noting that trade between the two countries in 2020 increased despite multiple shocks, Li said this indicates that there are objective conditions and opportunities for cooperation between the two sides.
”
Is the “selling” of the Taiwan issue (“…respecting each other’s core interests and major concerns…”) to US multinational corporations going to change the course of this geo-political conflict?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 14 2021 5:08 utc | 185

Below is a quoted Xinhuanet posting that says what I think is going to be told to the US about how to respond to Iran
”
TEHRAN, April 13 (Xinhua) — Visiting Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said here on Tuesday that all the U.S. sanctions against Iran should be removed unconditionally, according to official IRNA news agency.
“Our position is clear, and all sanctions against Iran should be lifted unconditionally. And I hope that by lifting sanctions on Iran, more cooperation climate will be created,” Lavrov said, elaborating on Russia’s position as a member of the 2015 nuclear deal, also known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), on the return of the United States to the deal.
The only way to revive the JCPOA is Washington’s full implementation of its commitments and act in accordance with the UN Security Council and UN resolutions, he said, stressing that if Washington fails to do so, it might be a dangerous act that could have dire consequences.
“We are trying to help the Americans and the Iranians return to their commitments,” Lavrov said at a joint press conference with Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif.
“We condemn any attempt to disrupt the (negotiation) process with regard to the JCPOA,” he added.
Iran gradually stopped implementing parts of its commitments in May 2019, one year after the administration of former U.S. President Donald Trump unilaterally abandoned the agreement and re-imposed sanctions on Iran.
The United States and Iran are at a stalemate over reviving the nuclear deal. U.S. President Joe Biden’s administration said that if Iran returns to full compliance with the JCPOA, the United States would do the same. But Iran insisted that its compliance would only take place once U.S. sanctions are removed.
Lavrov arrived in Tehran on Tuesday to discuss regional and international issues, including Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan, and economic cooperation, with Iranian senior officials.
”
I hope Iran sticks to its demand for removal of sanctions as beginning of movement forward. It will be one of many needed stakes in the heart of the monster of global private finance.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 14 2021 5:14 utc | 186

Amazing that so many people still dont know whats the deep state, or ptb..

Who is behind this SARS2, aka covid19 madness? I accept the risk of triggering your “conspiracy theory” buttons by identifying the widely recognized ”
global military-medical-petrochemical-pharmaceutical cartel” as the only suspect that can wield the powers necessary to effect these frightening outcomes.

……………….

In the days preceding the emergence of the first covid cases, American raced to the Pacific Rim to impact escalating aggressions on the Korean peninsula, SCS, TW straits, HK, ECS. Communist China-a “most favored” trading partner with America, is politically allied with several American enemies, including those said to possess weapons of mass destruction, including Iran. Coincidental? Not likely when viewing the larger political picture involving the Ango-American oligarchy’s RMA and instigated “conflicts short of war.”
Ultimately, “We the People” have become the greatest victims of this latest fright, and the larger political agendas it serves.

http://whale.to/a/sars2.htm

Posted by: denk | Apr 14 2021 15:01 utc | 187

Tibet destabilisation [Failed]
TAM destabilisation [Failed]
HK destabilisation [Failed]
Xin destabilisation [Failed]
Trade war [Failed]
Covid [Failed]
Final solution..
The ultimate harakiri that will destroy the entire East Asia hub.
Mission Accomplished.
https://dissidentvoice.org/2020/10/dumping-fukushimas-water-into-the-ocean-seriously/

Posted by: denk | Apr 14 2021 15:20 utc | 188

Very informative article related to Putin’s remarks about Russia’s Arctic goals. Do take note of the almost non-existent Arctic assets available for the Outlaw US Empire at the article’s ending that I’ve mentioned before, particularly the lack of any deep water port facility or S&R infrastructure on Alaska’s Arctic shoreline, let alone settlements aside from those of the natives.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 14 2021 15:50 utc | 189

[Must watch interview with Richard Werner]
Posted by: james | Apr 12 2021 15:20 utc | 111
Thank you for the link.
TLDW;?
Points made by Mr. Werner:
1 – The banks create money out of thin air. He discusses at length why and how he set out to “empirically” determine which of “3 alternative theories of banking”.
1a – Academia is for whatever reason silent on the topic of money creation. “It will confuse matters”, according to the reference textbook used in GB.
1b – Theory #1 was phased out during the Great Depression. This (accurate) theory, maintained that banks create money.
1c – Theory #2 lasted until around mid-60s. This held that “fractional reserve banking” is the basis of creation of money.
1d – Current theory #3, is that banks are “intermediaries” between lenders and borrowers.
1e – Only 3% of the money supply is created by central banks.
2 – Given this enormous power to create money, and being the “deciders” as to which sectors of economy, which asset classes, etc., are given loans, banks in effect are in control of direction of economies, and naturally as a consequence, society itself.
– ☿ –
Further implications (and here our dear friend Psychohistorian needs to pay attention):
Given that Bankers have “license to create money” from an un-disclosed authority (as fellow beneficiaries have “license to kill” ..), the fact of their collecting interest is now seen for it truly is: Economic Vampirism.
You have had various red herrings thrown your way over the years: specie money, paper money, fiat, “gold!”, “public vs private banking”.
Let’s consider the last one. It is the process of extracting wealth from the borrower via interest (usury) that creates distortions and gross inequalities. Now, whether this wealth is sucked by a coterie of Vampire Families, or a State occupied by ideological cliques (which inevitably due to nepotism gives rise to yet another set of Parasitic Families), it does not matter.
Why should you, who work and apply your God given brains and brawn to create wealth have to give annual pounds of flesh to a bank, private or public?

Posted by: Iméra tou Ermí | Apr 14 2021 16:33 utc | 190

According to US sources, three satellites from Russia, China, US exploded within a two weeks period.
First impression,
Space wars have kicked off.
But apparently the US ‘casualty’ is a decommissioned unit ready for scrap.
If so, it’d reek of FF
[[[somebody]]] took out two rival satellites together with one of its own junk, to effect plausible deniability.

Posted by: denk | Apr 14 2021 17:18 utc | 191

@ Iméra tou Ermí | Apr 14 2021 16:33 utc | 190 who wrote
”
Now, whether this wealth is sucked by a coterie of Vampire Families, or a State occupied by ideological cliques (which inevitably due to nepotism gives rise to yet another set of Parasitic Families), it does not matter.
”
I strongly disagree with your characterization of all States as “occupied by ideological cliques (which inevitably due to nepotism gives rise to yet another set of Parasitic Families)”.
I dare you to go to the US State of North Dakota which has had a public bank for over 100 years and prove your assertion….How about Cuba, Venezuela, China?
Humanity is in a civilization war about the subject you think does not exist, who and how should finance be run in our semi-homo sapien world.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 14 2021 17:23 utc | 192

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 14 2021 2:55 utc | 183
The quote comes from the Solovyev show which tends to be quite long. Here is a clip with Russian text covering that particular statement, we’ll never get along she says, too bad and I do not agree because I was witness and participant in a venture that got soviets and Usians working together and getting along quite well. -can’t get my self to say Americans since an Argentinian or Costa Rican is an American too-.
I spent this afternoon watching a long program about Gagarin and curiously a cultural convergence was pointed to begin back in the sixties comparing the post flight Gagarin to US stars like Presley or James Dean, and I agree, there is a lot more common cultural traits between Russians and USians that lets us say USians and Chinese, or Turks, or Arabs.
Simonyan at Solovyev excerpt

Posted by: Paco | Apr 14 2021 17:53 utc | 193

Paco @193–
Thanks very much for digging that up! On the citizen to citizen level, I agree there’s more shared than not. Rather, it’s at the level of elite zealots that are implementing the “values war” mentioned by Karagonov and cited here I see as being the real problem. Blanket assertions don’t reflect reality as you note. Most of humanity wants to get along with the rest of humanity, but those addicted to divide and rule to justify their status continue to get in the way.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 14 2021 18:29 utc | 194

☿: nepotism
“I strongly disagree with your characterization of all States as “occupied by ideological cliques (which inevitably due to nepotism gives rise to yet another set of Parasitic Families)”.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidel_Castro
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%BAl_Castro
Also: 太子党
☿: Is Public banking a euphemism for Statism?
“I dare you to go to the US State of North Dakota”
Can’t be that scary, is it? But I don’t need to go there. We have the internet.
BND charges interest on “money [publicly] created from thin air”:
https://bnd.nd.gov/rates/
Now the question is what happens to real money that is earned by borrower to pay BND. Fairest assumption is that the State of ND uses these funds for public works, etc.
So Mr. or Ms. North Dakota gets a loan for a house. Since you know so much about the scary state of North Dakota, can you break down the amount received (created out of thin air and then loaned) and how much is paid back (not created from thin air, rather from Mr. or Ms. North Dakota’s working wages)?
So we of course applaud the good people of ND to have the good sense to not send their annual pound of flesh to City of London, but the fundamental error persists: interest on loans.
& How does it work in China? How many pounds of flesh does the “People’s” bank get from the Chinese borrower? Are these funds then used to finance the strengthening of State Security apparatus to maintain power?
☿: The Conflict
The conflict we see today is waged against Humanity, Individual Rights, Freedom of Conscious, Freedom of Belief, etc. (You likely are referring to the conflict between dominant Western and ascending Eastern elites. Try and think out of your single note box.)

Posted by: Iméra tou Ermí | Apr 14 2021 19:01 utc | 195

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 14 2021 18:29 utc | 194
Interesting, in Karganovich’s article education and enlightenment are the key for preserving a country, I watched another excerpt of the show, and curiously Simonyan says that the last victory of the US was “us” since the USSR fell by itself but with a lot of help from the US. Then she goes on to say that since then the root of US decadence is the catastrophic plunge of the US education system, and with irony avers that if it goes on like this Russia does not need any nuclear arsenal, to read US intelligence reports is like watching Comedy Club she says.
I would not take it to that extreme but there is some truth in it, just compare the Kremlin.ru note on Biden’s call to Putin with the press note issued by the WH.

Posted by: Paco | Apr 14 2021 19:40 utc | 196

Paco @196–
Thanks again for your reply. I saw there were many more participants in that discussion and wondered what else might have been said. Thanks for providing a bit more context. I agree 100% with Karganovich.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 14 2021 20:26 utc | 197

From post Apr 14 2021 16:33 utc |# 190 & April Apr 14 2021 19:01 utc |# 195
When the use of public generated/created money goes out to the community, the act of individual use, particularly to create hard assets that benefit the growth of the community – such as adequate houses for community members or new businesses – the low and entirely reasonable interest charged effectively offsets the need to other wise tax to fund necessary public services and infrastructure as well.
Not seeing that as anywhere close to the process of Usury: interest at unreasonably high rates.
I believe your conflation of charging simple interest used for public benefit with usury is unjustified.

Posted by: doesitreallymatter? | Apr 14 2021 21:42 utc | 198

Mossad USA base in Kurdish occupied Iraq bombed by suicide drone PressTV reports. Tiny url used to get past the league of decency censorship bot.

A picture circulated after a reported “attack” against the United States’ airbase in the Iraqi Kurdistan’s capital Erbil, shows plumes of smoke billowing out of the facility.
The United States’ airbase in the northern Iraqi Kurdistan region’s capital Erbil has come under an “attack.”
Iraq’s Sabereen News television channel and Qatar’s Al Jazeera television network reported that explosions had rung out in the city on Wednesday night.
The Iraqi channel reported shortly afterwards that columns of smoke were being seen billowing from the base towards the sky.
It added that the roads leading to the US Consulate in the city and the Erbil International Airport had been shut down following the incident. Another Iraqi information network said the airport itself had also been shut down after the development.
Iraqi journalists confirmed that at least one rocket had landed inside the outpost. They also circulated footage of overflights above the city of a large number of aircraft that they identified as likely American drones.
Kurdistan’s interior ministry claimed that the incident had involved a “kamikaze drone.” It said the alleged attack had targeted a facility affiliated to the forces of the United States-led coalition that has been operating in Iraq since 2014 under the pretext of fighting the Takfiri terrorist group of Daesh.

Note that term “Kudistan’s Interior Ministry….”
PressTV is now running Kurd bloated self aggrandizement terminology. Try this “The fake Kurdistan invention “interior ministry” or the Mossad front Kurdistan terrorists claimed…

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 14 2021 22:13 utc | 199

I believe your conflation of charging simple interest used for public benefit with usury is unjustified.
Posted by: doesitreallymatter? | Apr 14 2021 21:42 utc | 198
Banking is a profitable business.
As said, “fairest assumption” is that the profits generated by a state operated, public bank, will be used for the benefit of the public.
The question arises as to who is taking out the loans? Who needs to borrow money? Your argument is close to the argument made to support another questionably practice — gambling in form of lottery — which is also a profitable business and the profits are used for public good.
In the former case, generally people who lack funds need loans to buy the basics needs – a home/property of one’s own, transportation, loans for education, etc. Has someone done the numbers? It would seem likely that the not-rich are subsidizing the entire community, including the rich?
How much comes out of the pocket of a citizen of a state with public banking to finance the purchase of a home? It is a lopsided balance sheet, is it not?
And the related question is this: is the claim that sans public banking based on the same model as that devised by the bankers, it is not possible to effectively finance public works?
As to “simple interest”, the question remains as to why is the device interest sacrosanct? Are we to understand that it is ‘impossible” to have an effective financial system for a healthy economy without interest? Why is this topic not on the table?
You know, Werner in passing noted that “banking is 5000 years old”, and pinned it on the Babylonians. In fact it were the Sumerians that came up, among many other clever things, with interest:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumer#Money_and_credit
It is a very intriguing fact that the 3 major prophets of that same general area — Moses, Jesus, and Mohammad — all forbade lending at interest. In the case of Jesus, the one and only instance where he behaves in a violent manner was turning over money changers tables. (And a quick little search for etymology of “bank” gives us: The word bank was taken into Middle English from Middle French banque, from Old Italian banca, meaning “table”)
So the claim remains that the 5000 year old struggle against the proverbial “Babylon” and Mammon” is in fact the “conflict” that matters.
(And speaking of prophet Mohammad, permit me to echo hon. Lavrov and extend the warmest wishes for a successful Ramadan to the Muslim community worldwide.)

Posted by: Iméra tou Ermí | Apr 14 2021 22:13 utc | 200