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April 29, 2021
Open Thread 2021-032
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james @91 Posted by: s | Apr 30 2021 19:51 utc | 101 @pessimist 100 Thanks for the link. Magnier is always interesting to read. Seems that Zarif is another westernized idiot. Posted by: aquadraht | Apr 30 2021 19:59 utc | 102 @oldhippie, 6 Posted by: cirsium | Apr 30 2021 20:08 utc | 103 THE CRIME OF THE CENTURY Posted by: Hemiola | Apr 30 2021 20:10 utc | 104 Speaking of viruses – Posted by: librul | Apr 30 2021 20:28 utc | 106 The need for early treatment Posted by: Hemiola | Apr 30 2021 21:08 utc | 107 @librul #18 Posted by: Leuk | Apr 30 2021 21:29 utc | 108 @Hemiola, 104, 107 Posted by: cirsium | Apr 30 2021 21:31 utc | 109 james #91 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 30 2021 21:45 utc | 110 The commonly accepted idea that white police officers tend to shoot blacks more easily than whites is not, to my knowledge, based on any credible statistics. Posted by: jinn | Apr 30 2021 21:58 utc | 111 @jinn #111 Posted by: Leuk | Apr 30 2021 22:19 utc | 112 Cirsium @ 103 Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 30 2021 22:31 utc | 113 Most of the time, in the US, it’s black people killing black people. Posted by: jinn | Apr 30 2021 22:39 utc | 114 @Jinn. take your own advise about the internet. Just watch your local infotainment channel. A black person is more likely to die at the hands of another black person than a white OR a Cop. It aint whitebread cvhickenshyte hawkenberries doing most of the domestic shootings, overseas sure but not at home. Just sayin. Posted by: Tannenhouser | Apr 30 2021 22:53 utc | 115 @ 101 s – not sure why, but i see uncle tungsten had a similar problem, but finally got to it.. thanks uncle tungsten. Posted by: james | Apr 30 2021 23:20 utc | 116 @jinn #114 Posted by: Leuk | Apr 30 2021 23:23 utc | 117 A black person is more likely to die at the hands of another black person than a white OR a Cop Posted by: jinn | Apr 30 2021 23:26 utc | 118 Of course this is not your statement, but it is your logic, this is what I meant, what everyone will have understood except you. Posted by: jinn | Apr 30 2021 23:30 utc | 119 @ 100 the pessimist… thanks for the link to ejmagniers post on the zarif tape from the past week.. it is worth the read as you note… Posted by: james | Apr 30 2021 23:32 utc | 120 old hippie I always read and get something out of your posts. Wish you were my neighbor but my neighbors are trees and I’m happy for that… anyhow– appreciate you. Posted by: migueljose | Apr 30 2021 23:32 utc | 121 learn about fake news– Posted by: arby | Apr 30 2021 23:51 utc | 124 there is a word in Russian: презренье. It roughly translates as “contempt” but it’s much harsher. USA has презренье toward Russia and Russia for some reason doesn’t understand it or refuses to understand it. Thus, no real communication between the two is possible due to презренье. Russia shouldn’t even waste its time with USA; USA will never listen to them, will only try to cheat and will lie to them as much as possible. When you dont have respect toward somebody they mean nothing to you. Posted by: Zapekk | Apr 30 2021 23:59 utc | 125 Posted by: ADKC | Apr 29 2021 23:20 utc | 39 Posted by: K_C_ | May 1 2021 0:01 utc | 126 @jinn Posted by: Leuk | May 1 2021 0:02 utc | 127 Leuk @ 108 said;” Posted by: vetinLA | May 1 2021 0:04 utc | 128 But explain to me what you were trying to prove by saying that « In the last 5 years blacks shot by police was 36/million while whites shot by police was 15/million », which was not disputed by anyone. Posted by: jinn | May 1 2021 0:07 utc | 129 @ Posted by: Mina | Apr 30 2021 13:19 utc | 68 Posted by: suzan | May 1 2021 0:26 utc | 130 @jinn Posted by: Leuk | May 1 2021 0:46 utc | 131 «… no evidence of anti-Black or anti-Hispanic disparities across shootings » by police officers : Proceedings of the Natioal Academy of Sciences of the USA. Posted by: Leuk | May 1 2021 1:15 utc | 132 A statistical approach investigating whether officer characteristics are related to the race of civilians fatally shot by police : Posted by: Leuk | May 1 2021 1:38 utc | 133 @107 Hemiola Posted by: Grieved | May 1 2021 1:49 utc | 134 Regardless of racial angle, American police shoots way to much and all to often, is unnecessarily brutal. Last January there was a ridiculous example in Rochester, NY. Police came to a black household to question mom about something (that part is murky). 9 year old daughter run out shouting “I want my Dad”, and Rochester finest managed to put her under control by throwing her face down on the snowy ground and cuffing her hands behind her back. Then they put her on the back seat of the patrol car, while the girl kept shouting “I want my Dad”. HOWEVER, they could not close the door as the girl put her feet out to obstruct it. She was admonished “do not behave like a child”, but answered “I am a child” (seems that she had more brains than her captor). So they pepper sprayed her face and made her wait more than 20 minutes for medical aid (couldn’t they wash her face with the snow?). Posted by: Piotr Berman | May 1 2021 2:01 utc | 135 @116 james Posted by: Grieved | May 1 2021 2:16 utc | 136 Article on gun violence; Posted by: vetinLA | May 1 2021 3:01 utc | 137 Here’s another; Posted by: vetinLA | May 1 2021 3:04 utc | 138 the pessimist #100 Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 1 2021 3:06 utc | 139 May 1st – what happens on May Day? Posted by: librul | May 1 2021 4:59 utc | 140 gringo to Ozzie,
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[2] Posted by: denk | May 1 2021 5:13 utc | 141 Re post 104 and 126 Posted by: R M Rao | May 1 2021 6:11 utc | 142 “Bill Gates is lying to you about vaccines” Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 1 2021 9:28 utc | 143 Grieved #135 Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 1 2021 9:42 utc | 144 Anyone else caught this insanity? It’s over a TV show called “Viewpoint” about police surveillance & not since “The Conversation” in 1974 have I seen a good attempt to consider the fine line between subject and object, how by being an observer you actually become a participant, until I watched a couple of episodes of “Viewpoint”.
Like most crime cop shows Viewpoint is a whodunnit in this case across several levels observer & participant, but just like the ‘evil’ bloke in Bedazzled who gets his rocks off tearing the last page out of all the mystery novels in public libraries, ITV management have elected to deny their viewers the opportunity to discover *what happens* in the last episode of their show. The audience had sat through so many commercials in the first 4 episodes, ITV prolly already made a profit. Posted by: Debsisdead | May 1 2021 9:48 utc | 145 About Yeadon, the website itself “planet lockdown” says all. Many places are not and have not been in lockdown, but the Western MSM tell everywhere govs have adopted their prevention model (starting with the interdiction of cultural events!) to have people swallow the bitter medicine. In fact, even in Europe, some countries have left museums open and continued to have cultural events. Posted by: Mina | May 1 2021 10:33 utc | 146 Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 1 2021 9:28 utc | 142 Posted by: migueljose | May 1 2021 12:18 utc | 147 Must see, on the politics involved Posted by: Mina | May 1 2021 12:29 utc | 148 Colombia is screaming. Posted by: migueljose | May 1 2021 13:11 utc | 149 A question, at 20′ here, he quotes a paper mentioning a contra-indication with TB/BCG vaccine. That means a lot of people, no? Isn’t it one of the most common in USA as in the EU? Posted by: Mina | May 1 2021 13:33 utc | 150 More on deceptive use of statistics here Posted by: Mina | May 1 2021 13:35 utc | 151 @Juliana Posted by: Beibdnn | May 1 2021 13:54 utc | 152 @Hemiola 104 Posted by: Mina | May 1 2021 14:30 utc | 153 It has been raining bullcrap in Oz for years now, but this one takes the cake…
For what….single handedly feeding the Oz ‘miracle’ over two decades ?
Posted by: denk | May 1 2021 15:03 utc | 154 @ 126 k_c_ – that is how i am seeing all this somewhat as well.. however – i like what grieved said.. Posted by: james | May 1 2021 15:15 utc | 155 ut @ 143; Thanks for the link. Yep, here we go again. Public $ spent, private corps reap the profits. Posted by: vetinLA | May 1 2021 15:40 utc | 156 Dismissing the Covidiot (petty bourgeois) myth that containing the pandemic is a zero-sum game:
The link to the study is in the post. @ 143 uncle tungsten… that video is quite good.. thanks.. Posted by: james | May 1 2021 15:52 utc | 159 vk @ 158 Posted by: oldhippie | May 1 2021 20:29 utc | 161 Mina @ 150 Posted by: oldhippie | May 1 2021 20:52 utc | 162 The situation in India cannot be used to terrify the endemic countries (e.g. in Europe, USA) or justify a third lockdown because the deaths per million in India is vastly lower and has a long way to go before they reach the level of the endemic countries: Posted by: ADKC | May 1 2021 23:11 utc | 163 ErDOGan is still up to his evil.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 2 2021 2:08 utc | 164 Post 142 update. Posted by: R M Rao | May 2 2021 4:22 utc | 165 About BCG, does the counter-indication means that someone should not “get a BCG jab” while taking ivermectin, or that someone taking ivermectin should not have received a BCG jab (ever?) Posted by: Mina | May 2 2021 11:07 utc | 166 Reuters is for headline-readers
Posted by: librul | May 2 2021 13:03 utc | 167 |
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