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April 22, 2021
Open Thread 2021-030
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Those dastardly Russians did something new to our troops. What it is will have to wait for the MSM to invent. Posted by: Librul | Apr 22 2021 15:51 utc | 1 Today I read that Google has an AI called Deepmind that has already beaten two Go champions, one from South Korea, one from China. The South Korean guy, Lee Seedol, quit Go altogether 2 years after his defeat, and the chinese believes that the AI is some sort of God that humanity cannot beat nor perceive. Posted by: Smith | Apr 22 2021 15:53 utc | 2 freddie deboer on “woke” types and their cynical/cowardly motives. one of the best of many articles i’ve seen given that i’ve personally witnessed these types going back to the “PC” phase of the 1990s. Posted by: the pair | Apr 22 2021 15:55 utc | 3 speaking of nathan j robinson…. Posted by: james | Apr 22 2021 16:11 utc | 4 Smith in 2 above mentioned AI and the systems coming on line. He should look at Martin Armstrong’s Socrates to see real AI. Posted by: Ed in Kanata | Apr 22 2021 16:12 utc | 5 China’s digital yuan displaces the dollar: $16 trillion of US dollar deposits may disappear
Memorize this quoted above paragraph, learn to recite it by heart. This is the essence of the American Empire post-1st Cold War foreign policy. Everything the Americans have been doing at least since the Gulf War – good and bad, smart and dumb – revolves around this simple statistics: it must find USD 1 trn (current USD value); 15%-20% of its GDP, from the rest of the world every year to keep itself afloat, i.e. it must keep the rest of the world in a condition where it is forced to give the American Empire this quantity of wealth every year, minimum. All the rest is a mere derivation of this objective fact. Canada Reveals It Paid White Helmets $4 Million Annually After It Cuts Ties
<> <> <> <> <> Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 22 2021 16:18 utc | 7 A moment of self-adulation: @ Ed in Kanata Posted by: Smith | Apr 22 2021 16:24 utc | 9 https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-about-declare-us-recognition-armenian-genocide-enraging-turkey Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 22 2021 16:26 utc | 10 Canadastan and Brutain are welcome to the White Hellmate headchoppers, Jackrabbit. Just like they’re welcome to Ukranazis. Let them take all of them and free Syria and Ukraine of the burden. Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 22 2021 16:29 utc | 11 What the heck are they thinking by offending Turkey? Just when they get Erdogan to defend Ukraine and play ball, they screw him over. No “one” is in charge of foreign policy. Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 22 2021 16:38 utc | 12 vk@6 seems to think China’s economic warfare against Korean socialism is not even Chinese, but the Koreans closing the border because of covid-19 panic. Not so, the Chinese have consistently joined the US et al. in besieging the north, under various pretexts. The capitalist road Xi is pursuing finds its expression in hostility to socialism abroad. There is no Chinese wall, excuse the expression, between foreign and domestic policy, they have the same roots and the same fundamental goals. It is China that joined in the permanent siege of the people of Korea. (All economic sieges are directed against the population, by the way, especially when the perpetrators swear they are targeting the “regime.”) Posted by: steven t johnson | Apr 22 2021 16:53 utc | 13 The CBC has a morning radio show called “The Current” which broadcasts nation wide. Normally I try to avoid it because too often it is mostly propaganda and wokeness. This morning the had a segment on events in Russia and Ukraine, so I decided to torture myself by listening. The approximately half hour segment starts around the 22 minute mark, and three people are interviewed…their views range from somewhat biased to very biased. Enjoy! Posted by: Victor | Apr 22 2021 17:06 utc | 14 It amazes me that the Neo Cons can’t see that the US is helping China greatly by maintaining the status quo in Korea. Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 22 2021 17:19 utc | 15 Pretty cool, Russia pulling out of Crimea. Posted by: jared | Apr 22 2021 17:28 utc | 16 @Eighthman Posted by: m | Apr 22 2021 17:37 utc | 17 I posted this on an earlier thread- but it goes here Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 22 2021 17:42 utc | 18 Victor @14 Posted by: spudski | Apr 22 2021 17:51 utc | 19 https://www.cell.com/cell-reports-medicine/fulltext/S2666-3791(21)00103-8 Posted by: Mina | Apr 22 2021 18:40 utc | 20 @ Jackrabbit | Apr 22 2021 16:18 utc | 7… if you read the response to that article in the globe and mail from 2 days ago, it is encouraging… interestingly, MARK MACKINNON, the lead writer on the article was interviewed by matt galloway on cbc radio this morning.. i shared a link to it on the new thread on ‘ukraine crisis lessens..’ Posted by: james | Apr 22 2021 18:40 utc | 21 Interesting, I read about about a stray SAM from Syria landing in the Negev. Or maybe it wasn’t so stray at all? Certainly a reminder of the range of Syria’s missile force. Related to this, the explosion in some Israeli depot. Iranian media were very, very quick to report it, and with apparent glee. However, not a peep on all of this in German state media. Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Apr 22 2021 19:38 utc | 22 Not sure what is going on regarding errant missiles exploding near sensitive nuclear facilities, missile factories going boom, dodgy missile defense and cyber war but it sure was an attention getter diverting ones gaze from the other plates that are at risk of crashing to earth. One more event like that in occupied Palestine could have the toilets overflowing in the bomb shelters and send the settlers into a profound funk and having second doubts about their exceptionalism. Posted by: Tom | Apr 22 2021 20:42 utc | 23 https://www.rt.com/russia/521827-czech-expel-russian-diplomats/ Posted by: Kartoschka | Apr 22 2021 21:19 utc | 24 I have just read a marvelously ironic article that damns the Chinese for their propaganda efforts in South America and then describes how the Special Forces are galloping to the rescue to save the poor inhabitants from the Evil Chinese (Who use sneaky tactics like vaccines!) by means of propaganda. Posted by: foolisholdman | Apr 22 2021 21:33 utc | 25 juliania – https://www.instagram.com/p/CN-CTOtAp7X/ Posted by: james | Apr 22 2021 22:10 utc | 26 The anti-russian narrative is falling apart, on vaccine too. Posted by: Bernard F. | Apr 22 2021 23:28 utc | 27 I tried to prepare myself for how I would feel, knowing that after the initial “demand” of vaccines from the sheep, who unquestionably assumed it good, had fallen off, there would be a glut of vaccine ready to go with no takers. Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 23 2021 0:29 utc | 28 https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/overnights/549873-intelligence-director-haines-says-climate-change-at-the Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 23 2021 0:56 utc | 29 South America keeps rising! Posted by: migueljose | Apr 23 2021 1:26 utc | 30 sorry, I hit the wrong button…. Posted by: migueljose | Apr 23 2021 1:30 utc | 31 Pepe Escobar on his VK page reports that CENTCOM says it no longer has command of the skies, because of Iran’s drones. He doesn’t give a link but quotes this:
~~ Posted by: Grieved | Apr 23 2021 2:23 utc | 32 Sorry james @ 26, couldn’t access. I’m rereading “The Devils” at present – long time since first read. It’s a tangled web – I’ll wait till I finish to say more. Here is the Pushkin poem extract that I guess serves as a dedication piece, gives you the flavor of the novel: Posted by: juliania | Apr 23 2021 4:15 utc | 33 Eighthman #10 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 23 2021 4:50 utc | 34 Below is a Xinhuanet quote from a posting about Australia that is hard to believe Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 23 2021 5:04 utc | 35 Below is a link to a Wall Street on Parade posting about an interview with James Grant with his point 6 being the title Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 23 2021 5:27 utc | 36 Posted by: juliania | Apr 23 2021 4:15 utc | 33 Posted by: Paco | Apr 23 2021 5:34 utc | 37 I came over to MOA in the hope of seeing Bernhard’s take on the big explosion in Israel, particularly to see his response to the analysis by Taxi (of platosguns.com) the American lady who lives in southern Lebanon and writes on security matters. I’m taking the liberty of quoting her long comment: Posted by: sarz | Apr 23 2021 8:42 utc | 38 The author is highlighting her hypocrisy. Posted by: Kartoschka | Apr 23 2021 9:08 utc | 39 With the MSM intensely engaged in the latest episodes of the deathporn (Brazil, India), no question is asked about why rich countries do not lift the patents (as law allow them) to let vaccines be produced everywhere in larger quantities… But that would be too politically incorrect. Posted by: Mina | Apr 23 2021 9:33 utc | 41 Pfizer could give some recipients HERPES. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 23 2021 9:37 utc | 42 One can wonder how many elderly, weak, and ill people were in the groups testing the vaccines for initial approval, I guess zero. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 23 2021 11:25 utc | 43 Covid say – What Monroe doctrine? What Commonwealth? Posted by: Debsisdead | Apr 23 2021 11:50 utc | 44 In Belgium, a cluster of Indian students has been found. They arrived on April 12 in Paris Charles de Gaulles and travelled to Belgium by bus. Out of the 43, 21 are now positive with mild symptoms. All had negative tests and some where vaccinated with the AZ and the Indian vaccine Covaxin. Posted by: Mina | Apr 23 2021 13:24 utc | 45 @ Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 23 2021 0:29 utc | 28 Posted by: m | Apr 23 2021 14:28 utc | 47 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 23 2021 9:37 utc | 42 Posted by: suzan | Apr 23 2021 14:36 utc | 48 @Mina #41:
Immediate transition to reneweable energy worldwide? Sure, Xiye, we’ll transition tomorrow. After lunch. It’s not like it would take decades to build up the manufacturing capacity to produce enough components to do that. Everything is easy when you’re dumb! And what’s with the fixation on “fossils,” by the way? Wouldn’t burning abiotic graphite cause the same problems? Not to mention that the build out of the “green” infrastructure currently requires resources that are incredibly toxic to process with available technology (this may change in the future):
And what’s wrong with “pipelines”? Pipelines are the cheapest and most environmentally friendly way to transport any gas, be it methane or hydrogen. The latter can be produced via hydrolysis reaction using “green” electricity.
Really? Are Central Asians, Ukrainians, Bulgarians awash in cash? These regions are not in “the global South,” neither they are “black and brown communities.” Perhaps it’s better to drop the silly race distinctions and talk about rich and poor nations instead? Posted by: S | Apr 23 2021 14:58 utc | 49 I’m sorry Paco, james, Debsisdead, Posted by: juliania | Apr 23 2021 16:48 utc | 50 Forgot to say, that is the Lenten prayer of Saint Ephraim the Syrian. Posted by: juliania | Apr 23 2021 16:52 utc | 51 Posted by: juliania | Apr 23 2021 16:48 utc | 50 Posted by: Paco | Apr 23 2021 17:23 utc | 52 Czech newspaper Blesk has interviewed Václav Klaus, the former president of Czechia (2003–2013), about the Vrbětice explosions brouhaha:
* ČSSD, the Social Democrats: Czech Social Democratic Party. Posted by: S | Apr 23 2021 17:29 utc | 53 Why do embassies and ambassadors even exist? They are an artifact of the 19th century, they attract mobs and terrorists and require expense and soldiers to guard them. Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 23 2021 18:01 utc | 54 @ juliania | Apr 23 2021 4:15 utc | 33… thanks… the link was just some light humour involving a radish… Posted by: james | Apr 23 2021 20:42 utc | 55 To James at 55 Posted by: VS | Apr 23 2021 21:10 utc | 56 Posted by: james | Apr 23 2021 20:42 utc | 55 Posted by: Paco | Apr 23 2021 21:52 utc | 57 @ Paco, James and Juliana – I really enjoyed Dostoyevsky’s “The Demons.” It is sometimes titled “The Devils” or “The Possessed” in English. I thought “Notes from the Underground” was a great read as well. “Fathers and Sons” by Turgenev is my favorite bit of Russian literature. It is a beautifully written book about the same time period in Russia of “The Demons.” The time of the Nihilists and the beginning of overturning of the old order in Russia. Plus some good drama of father/son relations. Posted by: Lex Talionis | Apr 24 2021 0:37 utc | 59 @ VS – thanks! i was starting to think that… looks like a good book! Posted by: james | Apr 24 2021 2:41 utc | 60 Mr Eighthman Posted by: Fyi | Apr 24 2021 3:07 utc | 61 Below is a short posting from Xinhuanet Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 24 2021 4:42 utc | 62 Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 24 2021 4:42 utc | 62 Posted by: tucenz | Apr 24 2021 6:56 utc | 63 Supply disruptions on raw materials, as well as finished goods… Posted by: Herr Hesser | Apr 24 2021 8:45 utc | 64 @64 Posted by: Kartoschka | Apr 24 2021 12:03 utc | 65 http://thesaker.is/americas-neoliberal-financialization-policy-vs-chinas-industrial-socialism/ Posted by: Kartoschka | Apr 24 2021 12:06 utc | 66 For the Idiot, try the Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky translation. It was so absorbing (and many themes of the Karamazov are there) that I could not stop reading until I finished it in 3-4 days. Posted by: Mina | Apr 24 2021 13:25 utc | 68 @Lex Talionis #59:
Dostoevskiy himself famously hated Turgenev; in fact, the character of “great writer” Semyon Yegorovich Karmazinov in Demons is a direct caricature of Turgenev. Here are some of Dostoevskiy’s milder comments about Turgenev (translation by Russia Beyond):
The story of their relationship and the reasons Dostoevskiy came to hate Turgenev are summarized in this article (machine translated from Russian, very readable). Posted by: S | Apr 24 2021 14:09 utc | 69 to josemiguel: Good news that Castillo plans to leave the Lima Group. Argentina just did so. The Lima Group, for those who have not read up, is in fact the creation of the ukrainian nazi descent canadian, Chrytsia Freeland. (funny name. haha.) and includes a collection of eeuu toadie countries (yes it is complicated. Lots of overlapping billionaires) with the avowed intention of getting rid of the elected president of venezuela. At the moment, disappointingly, the chilean foreign minister, Andres Allemand, is still very strongly in support of the overthrow idea. I’m not sure about Pinera, but he apparently had a direct phoneline to pfitzer so chile was one of the first to obtain the modi-thingee. Posted by: Miss Lacy | Apr 24 2021 14:26 utc | 70 to Lex – and we from you. It would seem that many of us are reading russians just now. From a different era, there is Life and Fate by Vasily Grossman. Posted by: Miss Lacy | Apr 24 2021 14:54 utc | 71 Putin orders preparing list of hostile states for sanctions Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 24 2021 15:46 utc | 72 Norwegian | Apr 24 2021 15:46 utc | 72 Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 24 2021 16:17 utc | 73 as a canuck, i know russia permanently banned crystia freeland… good for russia for doing so… Posted by: james | Apr 24 2021 16:35 utc | 74 This is how the Kaishekists talk: like a bunch of spoiled gangsters with king complex: @Stonebird | Apr 24 2021 16:17 utc | 73
Yes, here is the announcement from TASS Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 24 2021 16:48 utc | 76 @ S – Thank you for that bit of information! Super-interesting! I didn’t know about Dostoyevsky’s dislike for Turgenev. I am quite eager to read Dostoyevsky’s The House of the Dead written about his time in Semipalatinsk, Kazakhstan. Posted by: Lex Talionis | Apr 24 2021 17:24 utc | 77 I believe the US cancellation of Turkey’s F35 contract is intended to do economic harm. Now Biden has declared that Turkey perpetrated the Armenian genocide. Serious displeasure over something – still the S400 purchase? Posted by: the pessimist | Apr 24 2021 17:25 utc | 78 And apparently Hamas has decided to mix it up with Israel: Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 24 2021 18:11 utc | 79 @ Kartoschka | Apr 24 2021 12:06 utc | 66 Posted by: Herr Hesser | Apr 24 2021 19:07 utc | 80 @22 Scotch Posted by: Kartoschka | Apr 25 2021 17:10 utc | 81 https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/asien/jerusalem-351.html Posted by: Kartoschka | Apr 25 2021 19:46 utc | 82 Lex Talionis @ 59, it was hard for me to enjoy “The Demons”, but my perspective is ‘tainted’ it being the beginning of Orthodox Holy Week. That one and “The Idiot” I have trouble with, though my admiration for Dostoievski matches that I have for Putin. He gave “Crime and Punishment” to Snowden to read during his stay in the Moscow Airport – I wonder if he did. I would say the difference with Turgenev is that even in the darkest characters (he did give the Karamazov father his own name, Fyodor, after all) Dostoievski finds human, even lovable characteristics and actions — even in Smerdyakov! And, reading “The Devils” I did keep thinking of the D.C. eruptions during Trump’s final days – very Dostoievskian those! Posted by: juliania | Apr 26 2021 3:21 utc | 83 james @ 55 Thank you – still ahead – if you can find online some of the Holy Week music, it is quite lovely. I have some tapes of early 80s recordings and concerta I will be playing for myself – classical radio plays selections sometimes and the Rachmaninov Vespers are beautiful if you can find that. We had a choir my younger days that did the eight part harmonies, but in church everybody sang as the whole service is sung or chanted, even the readings. No instruments, just the human voice. Posted by: juliania | Apr 26 2021 3:33 utc | 84 @ juliania – enjoy the beautiful music.. that sounds great! share what you can if you find something online.. i am curious to hear what you are listening to… Posted by: james | Apr 26 2021 5:00 utc | 85 Thank you james! I love that duet, just as I love Orthodox church music that includes women’s voices – here’s a very nice recording from a group in Kansas, of Rachmaninov’s interpretation of the central hymn for Orthodox Sunday worship. Below I will give our church’s translation of the lyrics, which we sang in English – they won’t match the Slavonic exactly but come pretty close. Posted by: juliania | Apr 26 2021 20:44 utc | 86 suzan #48 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 26 2021 22:01 utc | 87 |
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