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April 15, 2021

Open Thread 2021-028

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So many problems all at once.

1. Taliban promises "nightmare" for US invaders if they are not gone by May 1st. Apparently they are not agreeing to any deadline extension.
2. Russia seems to moving entire sections of their military to the border of Ukraine, Crimea and Black Sea. Analysts believe Russian forces will be ready by early May when the ground thaws and dries there.
3. China becoming increasingly agitated by US support of independent Taiwan. China has hinted it will stop US before it goes too far and and reintegrate Taiwan soon.
4. Israel attacking Iran and the counteracts could happen soon. US will be ordered to "defend" Israel against Iran no matter what other problems arise around the globe.

If all these happen at the same time, US has no way of effectively handling all them simultaneously.

Posted by: Mar man | Apr 15 2021 14:27 utc | 1

Interested to see how Russia responds to latest round of US sanctions for all of Putin's trespasses/transgressions (cough-cough). One hopes the response is a hard-slap rather than a turning of the cheek. But because Russia's crimes are created out of whole cloth, like a fiat currency, and nothing but chum for a dumbed-downed American constituency, perhaps Russia will ignore the latest sanctions, and concentrate on the real-world battlefield, and not the ususal American refuge into symbolism and platitudes.

Posted by: gottlieb | Apr 15 2021 14:50 utc | 2

Frankly I'm beginning to wonder if the US knows what it is even doing? They say one thing, you know, calling for talks with Putin, but then turn around and slap sanctions on Russia. It's confusing to follow.

Posted by: Amber Carey | Apr 15 2021 15:10 utc | 4

This is troubling:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/exiled-gynecologist-exposes-details-chinas-forced-sterilization-uyghur-women

I wonder what other, reputable journalists have to say about this?

Posted by: jared | Apr 15 2021 15:11 utc | 5

@ Posted by: Amber Carey | Apr 15 2021 15:10 utc | 4

When acting in the political sphere (or in any subject) individuals are often not completely forthcoming with respect to their motives and intentions.

This would apply doubly to to news media, which are professionals at obfuscation and mis-direction.

The interpretation of reported events is a bit of a escherian riddle.

Posted by: jared | Apr 15 2021 15:24 utc | 6

No matter what happens in Afghanistan or the US; the narrative being pushed by the US/DNC/Politico/"anonymous sources" (see what happened there?) about Biden and Afghanistan is on a new level of ridiculousness and clearly not true. An inverted "Russia-gate" hoax.

See "Who is Really Running the Pentagon? Biden Reportedly Pulled Rank on Military in Afghanistan Pull Out" on Sputniknews to see what I mean.

Biden the Nigerian prince :D

The only part missing is a Trump tweet praising Biden for doing what Trump was (allegedly) prevented from achieving :P

That the DNC wants Biden to be a new Kennedy (minus getting killed, for now at least) is a good example of far down the drain the US already is.

Can't be long left now.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 15 2021 15:33 utc | 7

Reuters is going to be behind a paywall soon.
They have been a useful site for observing the mental state of the country (you are what you "eat").

I have a Bookmark folder that I open all at once. All sixteen news sites come up at once.
Have a full gamut (left to right) of sites: Reuters, Zerohedge, MoA, The Hill, The Washington Times, Foreign Affairs, The Vineyard of the Saker.....

People are actually going to pay for their own indoctrination.
Amazing.

Posted by: librul | Apr 15 2021 15:42 utc | 8

Btw Biden as a Nigerian prince (a scam) makes him the 3rd black POTUS (Patsy of the United States) after Bill and Bob-ama :)

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 15 2021 15:45 utc | 9

Jared #5

I wonder what other, reputable journalists have to say about this?

https://www.patreon.com/posts/unlocked-uyghur-49967709

Posted by: jayc | Apr 15 2021 15:45 utc | 10

@Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 15 2021 15:33 utc | 7

Sounds like Biden is kicking the issue, the can, down the road. When the September deadline arrives
do they plan to say "circumstances have changed..."?

The world situation can turn on dime, for example, Ukraine.

Here is an information filled article on Ukraine. I haven't finished it yet myself, but so far so good.

http://thesaker.is/putins-ukrainian-judo/

Posted by: librul | Apr 15 2021 15:49 utc | 11

https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/548410-biden-must-compel-china-and-russia-to-act-on-climate

Blazing, jaw dropping arrogance ! When does it ever stop? Russia and China must be "compelled". Really? When will we witness a climate extremist argue that nuclear war wouldn't be so bad?

Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 15 2021 15:52 utc | 12

librul @ 8,

You wrote:

People are actually going to pay for their own indoctrination.

That is what I think when some propaganda site goes behind a pay wall.

I always think:

You expect me to pay to be propagandized?

Really?

Posted by: Mike from Jersey | Apr 15 2021 15:53 utc | 13

Russia warns of 'consequences' to latest sanctions by US.

https://sputniknews.com/world/202104151082638672-us-slaps-new-sanctions-on-russia-expels-diplomats/

What may such 'consequences' be?

Russia's strategy should be to drive a wedge between the US and its European Nato members. It is becoming clearer by the day that the US is going rogue and its foreign policy is increasingly being conducted not only without consideration for its allies, but often in direct opposition to their interests. The best example of many, is Nordstream2.

How could such divisions be exploited?

Announcing that in light of hostile US actions, US units, ships and assets will be treated as such whenever in vicinity of the Russian military. If a US military asset has the CAPABILITY of attacking a Russian asset, Russia will from now on operate with the assumption those units are acting with such hostile INTENT.

For example, the next time a US Navy warship wants to enter the Black Sea, Russia can announce it will be targeted by radar, jammed with EW and aggressively harassed by aerial and naval assets as Russia see fit until it exits those waters. This has been done before, the difference being, it will now be announced as a matter policy until the US 'changes its aggressive and hostile behaviour', to take a leaf out of their book.

US forces in Syria will be targeted and monitored, importantly, from bases within Russia and with assets launching from Russia, a capability the US does not possess with conventional weapons from the US mainland. Any US planes operating over Syrian airspace must from now first coordinate with Russia (the Russians already coordinate with US, but as far as i know, the US does not reciprocate..) lest they be tracked and targeted as hostile.

In order to retaliate, the US would have to launch from allied bases and hit a Russian target in Syria, or risk nuclear escalation by targeting the launch site in Russia, either way, Russia has escalation dominance. While the US would always require an ally to sacrifice itself for the pleasure of protecting the only troops considered hostile by Russia: the US ones. Imagine being a US pilot and knowing from now on your are flying with a the buzzing sound as you're locked on by S500's or AEW planes on Russia's Caspian coast (easily within its range, altitude permitting) wherever you go because uncle Joe likes fake news about election meddling... there's a good chance you voted for Trump and think Biden cheated anyway. What a morale booster...

The ultimate goal would be to isolate and single out the US in Europe and the Middle East, and increasing and exploiting US reliance on its allies, who would not be targeted or tracked as aggressively, perhaps then making them more likely to be put forward for operations which are not in their national interest and further sowing divisions within Nato and ME allies of the US.

It would also highlight US military reliance on allied assets or from its own bases operating on allied territory. At what point would the US be considered more of a liability than a strategic advantage, if the US always needs your cooperation and any activities to protect the US result in you also becoming a target?

Eventually, it would be hoped that either some allies will grow a pair and refuse to be made a target, or better still, gain more leverage and are able to discourage the US from its aggressive behaviour in the first place. A stick for the USA strategy will be much more effective with a carrot for Europe, no matter how undeserving of it they may be...

It would be quite an escalation, but it seems like the latest Russian deployment next to Ukraine has achieved the goal of calling Biden's bluff and the US backing off (minus the latest sanctions..). It's quite clear that the US will keep pushing unless someone pushes back with force. A bully only understands the language of force. Perhaps it's time to push back with the only language they understand, unfortunately, and accept the risks it may entail.

Posted by: Et Tu | Apr 15 2021 15:54 utc | 14

@ Jared (5)

An exiled gynecologist who left China in 2011 and comes out of the woodwork at a convenient time to support the US narrative. Some might be sceptical.

Posted by: MarkU | Apr 15 2021 15:56 utc | 15

@ Posted by: jayc | Apr 15 2021 15:45 utc | 10

Thank you for the link.
I will take a look.
Why do you find Mr Lee to be credible?

Posted by: jared | Apr 15 2021 16:00 utc | 16

@ Posted by: MarkU | Apr 15 2021 15:56 utc | 15

Mark, yours is an excellent point and I support that view.
It's just that it is a serious issue worthy consideration.
Is there no way to discern the probabilty of truth - other than choosing what we wish to believe?

Posted by: jared | Apr 15 2021 16:04 utc | 17

It also goes without saying, that the US ambassador in Moscow and a good portion of his CIA spies will need to be sent back home so that the message is loud and clear to the whole world: Russia is no longer going to take any crap from Uncle Sam. It's bare knuckles time.

Posted by: Et Tu | Apr 15 2021 16:07 utc | 18

Russia will be limiting access through the Kerch strait.

JUST IN - Russia is closing the strategic Kerch Strait in the Black Sea for warships and state ships of foreign countries from next week until October 2021, closing off the Ukrainian ports of Mariupol and Berdyansk to traffic (Interfax Ukraine)
and
Ukrainian court seizes 12 Russian planes flying to occupied Crimea-Ukraine Interfax
Although I don't see how they could have "seized" them, In the air?

Note that the new sanctions were aimed at the ability of Russia to raise money by selling Bonds, even in other currencies, apart from the Ruble.
I suggest that the "de-dollarisation" is hitting hard in spite of tought talk from the Biden handlers, and this would be a reply to that. Whether it will have the intended effect is not known - or if the "intended effect" is to push a war in Ukraine. The latter is the most likely as it could be considered a good way to take attention off the mess that the US has become.

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 15 2021 16:23 utc | 19

Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 15 2021 13:24 utc | 137 [from the CNN-trains thread]
Grieved | Apr 15 2021 0:22 utc | 131

"Here in US it all goes in the memory hole. It never happened. We never walked up to the brink. No sir. Here we are at end of a dead thread and none of this ever happened. While every ministry on the planet knows what happened the US policy elite is certain it never happened and will not learn a thing. To continue."

I did see your posts. It is done...the Doomsday Clock now has sufficient momentum to ...

Posted by: chu teh | Apr 15 2021 16:25 utc | 20

tought....., it is tuff to write tough.

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 15 2021 16:26 utc | 21

Newest round of sanctions plus declaration of national emergency (I kid you not)---Executive Order Blocking Property with Respect to Specified Harmful Foreign Activities of the Government of the Russian Federation---can be read the Saker blog:

http://thesaker.is/.

This is totally insane.

Is it just Biden blustery? It looks to me like an active search for the needle in the haystack that could be interpreted to constitute a casus belli.

Posted by: Jane | Apr 15 2021 16:29 utc | 22

@Mar Man "If all these happen at the same time, US has no way of effectively handling all them simultaneously."

Thank God experts are in charge now!

Posted by: ian | Apr 15 2021 16:47 utc | 23

Putin is to make an announcement 21. April, is he not?

So what is it that the US fears so much? Could it be Russia and China will announce a ban on the use of US dollar in any transaction with them?

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 15 2021 17:09 utc | 24

@ Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 15 2021 17:09 utc | 23

In reference to my previous comments.. #14 and #18

Wouldn't imposing the Euro as an intermediary currency for all USD transactions in both China and Russia be the ultimate EU carrot to match a stick for the USA strategy?

Posted by: Et Tu | Apr 15 2021 17:15 utc | 25

Norman S. on the small print of bidens pull out.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/04/15/contrary-what-biden-said-us-warfare-afghanistan-set-continue

The cia isn't going to leave all the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ behind in the form of poppies

Posted by: jo6pac | Apr 15 2021 17:16 utc | 26

@ Posted by: chu teh | Apr 15 2021 16:25 utc | 20

Sorry if over-used:
'The struggle of man against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting'

Today is the first day of the rest of our lives.

It should not have to be that way, but it is.

As Grieved touched on so well in earlier thread, in many cases it is down to semantics.
We use words with no meaning to make arguments which are unfounded to people who are not really listening.

My excuse is I am basically a programmer in real life.
But I have to wonder about what is up with some of the more literate posters.

Posted by: jared | Apr 15 2021 17:18 utc | 27

Looks Like WAR
https://thesaker.is/the-latest-us-moves-against-russia-open-thread-11/

"PS: as for the Ukronazis, they have just used their heavy artillery (banned by the Minsk Agreements) to murder another civilian in his home. They were apparently trying to disable an electric station (a typical move by US-trained militaries before an attack).

It is very hard for me to see how a war could be avoided.
UPDATE: Biden has just declared a national emergency in the USA in response to the Russian threat. He will make a special address to the nation tonight."

Posted by: Bluedotterel | Apr 15 2021 17:26 utc | 28

@Et Tu | Apr 15 2021 17:15 utc | 24

Wouldn't imposing the Euro as an intermediary currency for all USD transactions in both China and Russia be the ultimate EU carrot to match a stick for the USA strategy?

Yes, that seems like the ultimate way to drive a wedge between the US regime and Europe, and make a cut into the main artery of US hegemony.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 15 2021 17:26 utc | 29

Step by step getting tighter, there is a note for Germany as well who does not let go the Navalny fable, the sanctions will include the EU and the eyes so it is another push to the East for Russia. The closure of Kerch plus no cruise into the Black Sea for the two US vessels probably has a lot to do with the phone call that Joe rang to Vlad. Shoigu had a brief note today, before meeting with his staff.

СООБЩЕНИЕ ДЛЯ СМИ

Posted by: Paco | Apr 15 2021 17:28 utc | 30

Apparently Russia anounced plans today to close the Kerch Strait "for live-fire naval drills" effective from 18th April until 1st October 2021.

Also seeing reports that Foreign Ministers in both UK and Poland (lol) have "summoned Russian Ambassador", no doubt for a stern finger-wagging session.

https://www.google.com/search?q=summons+Russian+ambassador.&prmd=niv&source=lnms&tbm=nws

Yesterday the Swedes (or Turnips if you prefer) also "summoned the Russian Ambassador" regarding alleged (probably fictional) cyberattacks

https://tass.com/world/1277649

Posted by: C4 | Apr 15 2021 17:40 utc | 31

Don't feed the troll.

Posted by: Troll Alert | Apr 15 2021 17:41 utc | 32

jared @5

Did you read the article that you linked? And not laugh out loud?

I particularly liked this part:

If the IUD is left in the womb for a long time, it could adhere to the surrounding tissue, making it difficult to remove without breaking a bone.

These Chinese IUDs must be built like freakin` lug wrenches! They probably have to hook tow chains up to them and use big Mack trucks to pull them out! [LMAO for real]

If you believe nonsense like the article that you linked then you are stupid. To be sure, lots of people believe that kind of nonsense, but they are all stupid. There are far too many stupid people in the world, so it is good that you are skeptical of that article.

Thanks for the laugh, though. It is truly hilarious what stupid people will believe.

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 15 2021 17:43 utc | 33

Correction Re: #30 Kerch Strait

Closure applies only to "warships and state ships of other countries under the pretext of military exercises".

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/royal-navy-reports-russia-closing-5304504

Posted by: C4 | Apr 15 2021 17:45 utc | 34

Correction Re: #30 Kerch Strait

Closure applies only to "warships and state ships of other countries under the pretext of military exercises".


Posted by: C4 | Apr 15 2021 17:46 utc | 35

Looking back on the Epstein/Maxwell/Mossad blackmail scam, how coincidental was it that "Israel" was the first country to obtain enough vaccine to vaccinate all of its citizens?
Err ... all of its Kosher citizens?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 15 2021 18:00 utc | 36

Does the empire's war in Ukraine go kinetic tonight? Biden doesn't leave his coffin in the basement too often, and "special addresses" are even rarer. This sounds like the empire has already pulled the trigger. Considering the American public's attention span you don't make an announcement of war several days before you expect the festivities to commence.

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 15 2021 18:52 utc | 37

The Saker published "Biden's" executive order

https://thesaker.is/executive-order-on-blocking-property-with-respect-to-specified-harmful-foreign-activities-of-the-government-of-the-russian-federation/

Total out of control
"any person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State, ...
Bla, bla... Could be any reason

Posted by: Bernard F. | Apr 15 2021 19:13 utc | 38

Poland Expels Three Employees of Russian Embassy in Warsaw

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    MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Three employees of the Russian Embassy in Poland were declared personae non-gratae, the Polish Foreign Ministry said.

    "On April 15, 2021, the Ambassador of the Russian Federation to Poland was summoned to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Poland. A diplomatic note was handed to the Ambassador informing about the recognition of the three staff members of the Embassy of the Russian Federation in Warsaw as personae non-gratae. The basis for this decision was the violation of diplomatic status and carrying out activities to the detriment of the Republic of Poland by the indicated persons," the statement says.

    This comes amid a new package of US sanctions against Russia in what Washington says is a response to the alleged Russian meddling in the 2020 elections in the US and hacking attacks, including the SolarWinds incident.

The combination of sanctions and bullshit diplomatic expulsions suggests no kinetic escalation involving NATO, likely no hot war in DPR/LPR. Just bluff and continuation of the neverending media demonisation campaign.

But probably best to wait to hear the prerecorded message from the dementia patient the media plans to broadcast later tonight

Posted by: C4 | Apr 15 2021 19:18 utc | 39

@ Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 15 2021 17:43 utc | 33

"If the IUD is left in the womb for a long time, it could adhere to the surrounding tissue, making it difficult to remove without breaking a bone."

I took that to mean that removing the device once it had adhered to tissue might require the some extreme method - I do not know why that would be.

The article does seem somewhat fragmented - seems possibly a poor translation.

I did not really see where you refute the claims of the article.
Myself, I am not sure what to make of it - true or false.

Posted by: jared | Apr 15 2021 19:28 utc | 40

Denmark charges three members of Iranian opposition group for financing terrorist activity

Denmark's public prosecutor said on Thursday it had charged three members of an Iranian Arab opposition group for financing and supporting terrorist activity in Iran in collaboration with Saudi Arabian intelligence services.

Well this is confusing. Don't those Danes know that these are freedom fighters? What's going on here?

Posted by: farm ecologist | Apr 15 2021 19:36 utc | 41

@ Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 15 2021 17:43 utc | 33

The following article is better written and more comprehensive.
This does not mean of course that it is accurate in it's details.
How would a person know?

I am aware that there is some question about the motives of the people/groups presenting these claims. I also believe it is well known that China has an authoritarian government which engages in repressive methods or would you dent that also?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide

Posted by: jared | Apr 15 2021 19:43 utc | 42

EU Parliament session gets chaotic as MEP accused of 'fake news' for daring to question OPCW on whistleblower scandal (VIDEO)
https://www.rt.com/news/521143-eu-parliament-opcw-fake-news/

Posted by: Zanon | Apr 15 2021 19:55 utc | 43

Re; Executive Order on Blocking Property with Respect to Specified Harmful Foreign Activities of the Government of the Russian Federation

Section 1. All property and interests in property that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of any United States person of the following persons are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in......

Seems like they are expecting either a crash or a war, and the rapid exportation of all Assets held nominally by Russians or anyone connected to them.

(c) any person determined by the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Secretary of the Treasury, to be responsible for or complicit in, or to have directly or indirectly engaged in or attempted to engage in, cutting or disrupting gas or energy supplies to Europe, the Caucasus, or Asia,.....

Huh? Support for Ukraine is understandable, but for Asia and Europe as well? TO the Caucasus not from?

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I think we should all realise that there are two (possibly more) factions calling the shots in Washington, and they take turns in foriegn policy. Unfortunately they are not speaking to each other and while one wants a Hillary-Democrat-Zio-type war, the others (who will do the fighting, if they are the Pentagon) don't want things to go that far. The result being that no one knows what's going on.
OR
The Financial "Oligarchic" tribe are waking up to the fact that their juicy summer days are coming to a brutal end, and all those derivative havens where they have stashed their money/assets will simply dissappear into a black hole with the demise of the dollar. Panic in Wall Street? That I may not be so far off the mark is that most of the really big Billionaires have also gone into hiding.

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 15 2021 20:07 utc | 44

Why would it be inappropriate for Russia to offer bounty for the killing of US soldiers in Afganistan - in the context that the U.S. is offering assistance to moderate rebels in Syria, something about making it a quagmire for Russia. What is the rule on such matters?

I am not advocating for the killing of anyone, myself.

Posted by: jared | Apr 15 2021 20:22 utc | 45

jared @42

Thanks for the link to CIApedia. It is an authoritative source for the discographies of pop musicians and Philip Cross' personal opinions, so I suppose it does have a place in discourse.

Here is an idea that I am sure never occurred to you: If you are truly "troubled" and not just concern trolling then why don't you book a flight to Xinjiang and take a look around yourself? It couldn't be because you don't really care about the truth of what is happening there, could it?

As for your suggestion that China is some kind of Mordor, all I can say is that I never saw, experienced, or heard of any "repression" the whole time I lived there. What I think is well known is that people in the US and Europe were brainwashed into believing that Iraq had threatening WMD programs. I know that people in America and Britain have been brainwashed onto thinking that the Syrian government used chemical weapons on their own civilian population. I know that people in the West have been brainwashed into thinking that Evo Morales was head of a "repressive" government. I know that Americans in particular were brainwashed into believing that the Vietnamese attacked the US Navy in the Tonkin Gulf incident, and that the Spanish blew up the battleship Maine in Havana harbor. I know Americans were brainwashed into believing that Iraqi soldiers threw Kuwaiti babies out of incubators.

You see? There are a great many things that you and others like you believed to be "well known" at the time that were total bullshit. Your "Uyghur genocide" is just as much total bullshit as the Kuwaiti incubator babies.

Here is a simple rule to help you spot jingoism: Whenever your country is trying to gin up conflict with another country, ALWAYS start with the assumption that what is said about that country is a lie. If you find yourself truly "troubled" and not just concern trolling like you are here then go to that country and investigate the matter yourself. It is not really that difficult.

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 15 2021 20:29 utc | 46

Jared fuck off already.

Every regular reader knows you for attempting to splice mainstream narratives into MoA threads. It's obviously not convincing anyone, so your continued attempts are a clear testament of the professional nature of your "spiel".

Quoting wikipedia on an obviously tainted and heavily narrative-controlled subject and pretending like you are genuinely innocent in your obliviousness of wikipedia's antics is ridiculous.

Posted by: Lurk | Apr 15 2021 20:40 utc | 47

Great video which explains why Sars-COV2 has not been isolated:

The Truth About Virus Isolation 🤫 (Dr Sam Bailey)

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"Recently many papers have been published which demonstrate that Zika virus and Ebolavirus can persist in a variety of human fluids for extended periods of time. These results have been interpreted with alarm, both by scientists and by science writers. However, in most cases the assays were done by PCR, not by plaque assay, and therefore we do not know if infectious virus is present." Viral RNA is not infectious virus! Vincent Racaniello, Professor of Microbiology & Immunology in the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Columbia University

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"This dilemma of diagnostic EM should alarm us all, as misleading information on the presence of SARS-CoV-2 in tissue has already made its way into the scientific literature and seems to be perpetuated." Why misinterpretation of electron micrographs in SARS-CoV-2-infected tissue goes viral (The Lancet)

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"If language is not correct, then what is said is not what is meant; if what is said is not what is meant, then what must be done remains undone; if this remains undone, morals and art will deteriorate; if justice goes astray, the people will stand about in helpless confusion..." Confusious quote


Posted by: ADKC | Apr 15 2021 20:45 utc | 48

@ Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 15 2021 20:29 utc | 46

Mr Gruff, are you sure that Concern Trolling is "a thing" - seems a bit of an oxymoron.
Do you find that everyone you disagree with is a troll?
Do you feel that people are out to get you?

I agree with you that many things which are written are not correct.

Posted by: jared | Apr 15 2021 20:50 utc | 49

Jared your trolling is too obvious.

Get lost, or more likely, try again with a different handle.

Posted by: Lurk | Apr 15 2021 20:56 utc | 50

@ Posted by: Lurk | Apr 15 2021 20:40 utc | 47

I do find the discussion at MoA to be very constrained with what almost seems an enforced adherence to consensus. However, in spite of that I also find many of the commenters to be very informed and intelligent and showing intellectual curiosity.

I was hoping for something of the form of rational feedback.

Posted by: jared | Apr 15 2021 20:57 utc | 51

Given your input, that was actually rational feedback.

Posted by: Lurk | Apr 15 2021 21:02 utc | 52

Jane @22

This latest round of sanctions seems like bluster. The ruble slightly has settled in the mid-point of where it had been over the past 5 days and from what I read the sanctions do not include any notable energy industry or other meaningful sanctions. The Russian sovereign debt sanctions are symbolic.

Posted by: schmoe | Apr 15 2021 21:06 utc | 53

"Do you find that everyone you disagree with is a troll?"

I got a good laugh out of that!

I have "disagreed" with every regular poster in the MoA fora, and quite energetically at that!

As for concern trolls, yes, it is a real thing and you fit the definition to a T. Come clean and admit it; you don't care about Uighurs, or Tibetans, or Rohingya, or Kurds, or Venezuelans, or Bolivians, or anyone else whose homelands the empire is trying to destroy. Lying about this stuff is bad for your karma, and bad karma can give you cancer. I'm just "troubled" about its impact on your health if you keep this up.

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 15 2021 21:08 utc | 54

Eighthman @12 with climate extremists possibly advocating nuclear war:

It was long enough ago that I cannot remember which climate change/environmental group it was (but about the stature of the Sierra Club or Greenpeace) that had a faction, if not a group-wide policy, that was promoting nuclear energy as it was carbon neutral. Sorry, no supporting links, but I do recall that it was causing serious divisions within whatever group that was. Your concept is not that far fetched.

Posted by: Not Bob | Apr 15 2021 21:31 utc | 55

Posted by: Not Bob | Apr 15 2021 21:31 utc | 55

One of the earliest and largest funders of the University of Leicester's Hadley Climate Centre, of Climategate email fame, was the UK Nuclear industry.

Nuke industry support for Big Green, and Big Green's less overt support for the Nuke industry, goes back at least 30 years or more

Posted by: C4 | Apr 15 2021 21:58 utc | 56

@ William Gruff | Apr 15 2021 20:29 utc | 46... i 2nd your post and commentary.. thank you...

@ jared.. i have to agree with william and lurk here.... of course you can make your case and it will be subject to scrutiny too like all others.. cheers..

Posted by: james | Apr 15 2021 22:33 utc | 57

@54 William Gruff - Lying about this stuff is bad for your karma

Now that's an interesting point. All the teachings on karma suggest that the greater the involvement, intention and satisfaction that inhere in an action, then the greater the karmic result for the actor.

So, if all of the words you write are actually software-enhanced, so that you yourself are only partially engaged with the discourse you're polluting, is your karma impacted as strongly as it would be if you were all in, passionately believing the shit you write, rather than simply slicing concepts to shreds with word salad crudely disguised as dialect?

I suppose I should be glad that the entity signing as "jared" isn't actually generating that bad a karmic burden for itself. It'll try to be glad.

But I note that even karma doesn't think his nonsense is worth the trouble to get too involved with.

Posted by: Grieved | Apr 15 2021 22:34 utc | 58

I trust The Greyzone and the reporting of Max Blumenthal and Ajit Singh on the Uyghur construct.
Read the whole article and tell me the US is not spewing out total propaganda.

"Claims that China has detained millions of Uyghur Muslims are based largely on two studies. A closer look at these papers reveals US government backing, absurdly shoddy methodologies, and a rapture-ready evangelical researcher named Adrian Zenz.
By Ajit Singh and Max Blumenthal

"The first, by the US government-backed Network of Chinese Human Rights Defenders, formed its estimate by interviewing a grand total of eight people.

The second study relied on flimsy media reports and speculation. It was authored by Adrian Zenz, a far-right fundamentalist Christian who opposes homosexuality and gender equality, supports “scriptural spanking” of children, and believes he is “led by God” on a “mission” against China.

As Washington ratchets up pressure on China, Zenz has been lifted out of obscurity and transformed almost overnight into a go-to pundit on Xinjiang. He has testified before Congress, providing commentary in outlets from the Wall Street Journal to Democracy Now!, and delivering expert quotes in the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists’ recent “China Cables” report. His Twitter bio notes that he is “moving across the Atlantic” from his native Germany.

Before Grayzone editor Max Blumenthal questioned Zenz about his religious “mission,” at a recent event about Xinjiang inside the US Capitol, he had received almost entirely uncritical promotion from Western media.

The Network of Chinese Human Rights Defenders, which first popularized the “millions detained” figure, has also been able to operate without a hint of media scrutiny."

https://thegrayzone.com/2019/12/21/china-detaining-millions-uyghurs-problems-claims-us-ngo-researcher/

Posted by: ronnie mitchell | Apr 15 2021 22:51 utc | 59

My previous post said it was posted, but then did not appear.
So some censorship is at work here, sad. Many such cases.
I will try again.
I wanted to say that I believe a blacklist is in play where companies, especially tech companies, are blacklisting people for their political beliefs of file they lookup at palantir or cambridge analytica.
Otherwise the huge demand for tech workers would have gotten my long resume and skills a single interview in the last two years.
Further, it is apparent that the u.s. military has no interest in defending the united states, and is selling us out to the israel and the forces of globalism, and will gladly watch mobs of the least intelligent, swarm and destroy functioning society in the name of whatever cause george soros and epstein send them on.
Including helping poison everyone with a fake vaccine gene therapy whatever, sterilizing and murdering people apparently at random, assaulting all reason and healthy faculty of the mind. Spying on everyone, breaking every law, especially the non aggression principle, ripping the country they are sworn to defend apart.
My disgust knows no bounds. My riots have been violated, my life has been threatened, my livelihood has been taken away, what I believe in has been shit upon.
The social contract is destroyed, and I lay it at the feet of those who earn a lot of fiat currency to defend us, you have failed, you are failures, you should feel shame, if I thought it were possible.
You suck at your jobs, I don't care what the fuck happens in the ukraine or syria, it is none of our business, I will shed no tears over whatever idiot is sent on the fools errand on the other side of the world while our country is in shambles, led by idiots, stooges, foreigners, traitors, and pederasts.
The u.s. marine corps and air force and navy are cuckolds to Agenda 21 and the bilderberg group, and it should be painted on all of your gravestones, once your lives and those of your family are used as fodder while those on yachts watch on laughing with their inherited wealth, inherited from the last time they set americans and europeans up for these idiotic conflicts amongst ourselves.
Shame, shame is what you should feel, to the extent you have anything to do with it, especially those with rank and sitting on chairs in "the pentagon."
Wipe your ass with the flag, there is no difference between that and what you are already doing.

Posted by: J. Michael Hudson | Apr 15 2021 23:01 utc | 60

@ Posted by: ronnie mitchell | Apr 15 2021 22:51 utc | 59

Yes, I saw that piece.
It did offer some substance, but interestingly their position was largely the lack of credibility of Zenz and his methods.
I did not see where they said that they had investigated the matter and found it to be without merit only that they found Zend and team to be without merit.
I wonder why the US would rely on such amateurs for such investigation - I am pretty sure that is the claimed function of the CIA. Though possibly they provided the material for the article on wikipedia - substantial and well written.

Example of vigorous debate within sharply defined limits.

Posted by: jared | Apr 15 2021 23:21 utc | 61

Thanks for that response and I must say no one should trust Wikipedia especially on any foreign affairs matter, that is well known, CIApedia is a deserved nickname.
The Grayzone does a lot of great reporting and on the Uyghur stories. They also did a lot of great reports on Venezuela from Venezuela. If you check out the body of work and one doesn't need to doubt their credibility.

"Cultivated by the US government as human rights activists, Uyghur American Association leaders partner with far-right lawmakers and operate a militia-style gun club that trains with ex-US special forces."

"However, an investigation by The Grayzone into the Uyghur separatist movement in the Washington DC area has uncovered a jingoistic, gun-obsessed subculture driven by the kind of right-wing ideology that was on display during the March 21 car caravan through downtown.

Leading figures of the UAA operate a right-wing gun club known as Altay Defense. Proudly dressed in US military fatigues, Altay Defense drill in advanced combat techniques with former members of US special forces who also train private mercenaries and active duty US service members. Members of the militia-style gun club espouse pro-Trump politics and anti-immigrant resentment.
From the Instagram account of Altay Defense

The UAA is the US-affiliate of the World Uyghur Congress (WUC), an international network whose first president outlined an objective to precipitate the “fall of China” and establish an ethno-state in Xinjiang. The recipient of millions of dollars of funding the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), a US government-sponsored entity, this network works closely with Washington and other Western governments to escalate hostilities with China.

Despite claiming to represent the interests of China’s Uyghur and Muslim minority populations, many of the UAA’s closest allies represent some of the anti-Muslim, far-right forces in Washington, from Republican Rep. Ted Yoho to the Family Research Council, as well as the FBI.

During the pandemic, the UAA and members of its affiliate organizations helped inflame anti-Asian resentment by spreading far-right propaganda referring to Covid-19 as the “Chinese virus,” and claimed that China was waging a “virus war” against the world, “[p]urposefully, intentionally export[ing] the virus to cause the pandemic.”

Behind its carefully constructed image as a peaceful human rights movement, the UAA and its offshoots in the DC-based Uyghur separatist lobby are driven by far-right ideology and envision themselves as militant foot soldiers for empire.
“I belong to America!” Uyghur human rights leader teams up with far-right, Islamophobes in anti-China crusade
https://thegrayzone.com/2021/03/31/china-uyghur-gun-soldiers-empire/

Posted by: ronnie mitchell | Apr 15 2021 23:37 utc | 62

@53

(c) any person determined by the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Secretary of the Treasury, to be responsible for or complicit in, or to have directly or indirectly engaged in or attempted to engage in, cutting or disrupting gas or energy supplies to Europe, the Caucasus, or Asia, and to be:
(i) an individual who is a citizen or national of the Russian Federation; or
(ii) an entity organized under the laws of the Russian Federation or any jurisdiction within the Russian Federation (including foreign branches).

Ukraine is in Europe.

The entire executive order is sleazily worded so anyone and anything can be shoe-horned into it. Especially Russian company executives.

It is primarily, perhaps, an underhand form of business competition.

It is designed to isolate and punish anyone doing anything the US Govt. doesn't, from creating a digital currency to doing maintenance and repairs on Russian diplomatic property sealed & frozen by the outgoing Obama administration.

Posted by: powerandpeople | Apr 15 2021 23:43 utc | 63

Jared @ 5:

ZeroHedge (a website not sympathetic to China) lifted that article from The Sankei Shimbun which is aligned with political parties (Liberal Democratic Party and Nippon Ishin no Kai) in Japan that are politically and socially conservative, and economically liberal (or neoliberal) in their philosophies. Former politicians from the LDP who served Japanese Prime Ministers include Shinzo Abe (2006 - 2007, 2012 - 2020) and his grandfather Nobosuke Kishi (1957 - 1960), a notorious World War II criminal once nicknamed 満州の妖怪 (Manshū no yōkai "The Monster of Manchuria") for the way he ran Manchukuo province in the 1930s. The actual author of the article, Takao Sato, is the Cairo news bureau chief for The Sankei Shimbun.

It appears all the people Sato interviewed (assuming Sato actually met them all) have been living in Turkey for some time. The gynaecologist herself has been living in Turkey since 2011. That's awfully long time to be away from China and living in Turkey (and being tutored in what to say by Turkish government authorities and intelligence spooks) and to still be familiar with whatever policies the authorities in Xinjiang are carrying out now.

Sato's sources also include The New York Times, not exactly a purveyor of news as MoA regularly points out.

If Calvinul Kamal's protest is genuine and not influenced by Turkish authorities, why is her message in the photo printed in both Turkish and English - but not in Mandarin Chinese or Uyghur?

Posted by: Jen | Apr 16 2021 0:14 utc | 64

- Concentration camps and forced labour are fairly common in history.
- China has ample motive to use them. And the means to disguise them.
- China is characterized by Han nationalism, subordinate religion, and pervasive surveillance.
- Inflaming ethnic and religious minorities is a key policy plank of America, which the CCP would have to counter.
- The history of camps, regardless of country or form of government, are rife with stories of experimentation, slavery, rape, brutality, sterilization, and neglect unto death. It is the standard camp package.

Bottom-line, if you won't even entertain the possibility that it's true, you are announcing to the world you are a fool.

Posted by: Zynski | Apr 16 2021 1:08 utc | 65

@ Jen

Thank for the feedback and I think your points are valid. Seems there is a consensus that China is not mistreating the Uyghers. About 1/2 of the articles at zh are strongly conservative, they let a few leak through that are more objective. Their first articles regarding the virus were not so much anti China as that there was something that was know since late 2018 and it was being suppressed- very likely the US was complicit. It became anti China.

Posted by: jared | Apr 16 2021 1:13 utc | 66

@ Posted by: Zynski | Apr 16 2021 1:08 utc | 65

I doesn't matter that concentration camps and forced labor are common in history (by the way, concentration camps are not common in history, but that's beside the point) - the absence of evidence of concentration camps are not evidence of concentration camps.

You're not above science, you still have to come up with the evidence in order to make a point.

Posted by: vk | Apr 16 2021 1:22 utc | 67

Presumed supremacy, the USA's newest invention:

Intel Director Haines Warns China Plans to Challenge US’ ‘Presumed Leadership’ in Space

That's the problem with Ms. Haines argument: the USA never had supremacy in space. You cannot lose something you never had.

So, not only no other nation has the right to even try to surpass the USA - it doesn't have the right even to try to become hegemonic in unexplored fields.

The USA has just recreated the concept of Divine Right in modern diplomacy/international law.

Posted by: vk | Apr 16 2021 2:25 utc | 68

To fellow Chinese the world over....
Especially those in [[[five liars]]] land,

[[[The bastards]]] have succeeded.
We'r now the pariah of 21C, its official.
The demonisation is complete.
https://t.gifteeshirt.com/twit/2020/04/Racist-I-Am-Not-Chinese-T-Shirt-scaled.jpg

Stay strong bro,
This is very interesting time.

Over and out.

Posted by: denk | Apr 16 2021 2:29 utc | 69

April 15: New sanctions against Russia and a number of individual Russians. Over the old SolarWinds allegations and little discussed 2020 Election Interference? Those are crap, right?

Posted by: Charles Peterson | Apr 16 2021 2:39 utc | 70

This is gold:

Beijing’s full control of Hong Kong is undermining its three pillars|Huang Ching-long

Nice find by @Chinahand (Peter Lee).

Posted by: vk | Apr 16 2021 2:45 utc | 71

Those who value real stories from China or who are familiar with Nathan Rich may be interested in his announcement of new plans for his self-made videos that explain China to westerners.

He's moving to Shanghai because the work of producing the videos is growing and he wants to create better and more professional content. So he'll be taking an office and hiring a staff.

Apparently his following and support base is large enough to think of using the support, not for his own survival (which he doesn't need), but to build a new media production effort, to counteract the lies about China and to present an education about that civilization.

This is all great news, coming from a nation where people have a future, and can think in such terms. Rich has gained attention at the commentariat level of China, but I can't remember exactly where. His videos are sincere, meticulous and articulate, and I have found them valuable.

Here's his 11-minute description of what he hopes to be doing next with his life and work:
Announcement - I'm LEAVING (clipped from a Nathan Rich live stream)

Posted by: Grieved | Apr 16 2021 3:04 utc | 72

@ Grieved

I have no trust in Nathan Rich, the guy's a grifter, kinda like an opposite Serpenza.

It all comes down to money to these guys.

Posted by: Smith | Apr 16 2021 3:10 utc | 73

Seems a bit "off topic" even for an open thread as the Ukraine crisis grows but I'm going to give a short blurb on South America.
Lula is cleared by the Brazilian Supreme Court which backed the earlier ruling by a district judge. Lula now is free to run for president if he wants, he's probably unbeatable. https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Supreme-Court-Confirms-Annulment-of-All-Charges-Against-Lula-20210415-0024.html

BrazilWire does a deeper dive into Lula's enemies and zeroes in on Sergio Moro, the judge who spear-headed Lula's imprisonment and Dilma's ouster. Turns out, Moro's CIA, backed by Cargill and other oligarchic monsters. His connections to Obama and Biden's people will become more public over the next few months. https://www.brasilwire.com/sergio-moro-joins-secret-us-brazil-negotiations-over-amazon/

Peru surprised everyone-- me included-- as union leader/teacher Pedro Castillo won the first round. Here's a piece on him from
Bolivian site Kawsachun news, Ollie Vargas's group. Evo Morales said Castillo is modeling after Bolivia's MAS party and social movement. https://kawsachunnews.com/evo-pedro-castillo-won-with-proposals-of-the-mas

Ron Ridenour writes a short clip about the Ecuador election tragedy... he doesn't believe it either. IMO, the bad guys stole it from Arauz but no one's talking yet. Lasso is going to invite fake leader and macho pin up boy Guaido to his inauguration. says it all. https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2021/04/12/ecuador-millionaire-wins-presidential-election-us-gains-poor-lose/

Posted by: migueljose | Apr 16 2021 4:30 utc | 74

Xinhuanet has a posting about the Iran negotiations and it is summarized nicely in the following quote

"
Iranian President Hassan Rouhani said on Wednesday during a cabinet meeting that Iran has no problem negotiating the return to the 2015 nuclear agreement, but will do so "according to its own logic." He said the United States must implement the very same conditions that were agreed in July 2015, and as soon as Iran verifies those conditions have been met, it will "immediately fulfill all (its) obligations."
"

It will be interesting to see which countries don't agree that the US needs to lift all sanctions as the first step.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 16 2021 4:52 utc | 75

Librul: thanks for the link it is interesting and he certainly put a lot of effort into all of it. I'll be brief because wow there's a lot one could debate.

Personally I don't believe in any evacuation however I think Russia will intervene militarily if required/forced to stop "Ukraininan" aggression against Donbass.

I'm not at all sure it will be required unless it is a large attack, and if it is a large one Russia is given a free hand. Looks like a lose-lose for "the west" either way.

So let's say all the trainloads of "Ukrainian" equipment sits and rusts while waiting in the mud for something that will never really kick off: this is clearly an acceptable outcome :)

Still I completely understand that people are worried this will go off immediately, the US seems not to realize they're being suicidal to such a degree that I'm wondering if in the case anyone actually managed to get through to them and they tried to stop their own belligerence it would actually make them start a much bigger war. That's how inept they seem to be.

The direct opposite to back when Ukraine (while communist) managed to avoid a nuclear war.

The earlier parts of the link concerning various history of Ukraine and eastern Europe and implicitly over the past two millennia just about every part of Europe (including Russia itself) is too harsh in many ways and I think he know it and shows that he knows or suspects he is.

He still makes plenty of good arguments though just not so much the ones against the USSR in this case, he has some in their favor too in my opinion. I don't mind defending a lot else of what Khrushchev did (but if it was illegal then it was) despite having a bias in favor of him, and defending a little bit of what Stalin did despite having a bias against him.

Also; the people using the nazis etc. might call themselves jews and/or nazi but they would, do, and are willing to call themselves anything at all and use anyone and anything at all as long as it works for them.

Anyway it's a interesting article :)

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 16 2021 5:31 utc | 76

As the old chinese curse goes

"May you live in interesting times."

And so it is.

The u.s. is at the end of its imperial rope.

The u.s is at the end of its domestic rope.

It has with the help of the "war against drugs" doomed itself to being the "go to place" for every enterprising drug trafficker in the world. With its neanderthal problem solving skills based on a"kill everything" mentality, that is constantly re-enforced by the khazarian moguls in hollywood, it has doomed its people to binary decision making process of "keep it" or "kill it."

It has no social net. Its streets are full of people in agony and turmoil, while the top 0.1% practice their non-existent decision making skills by throwing darts at a board. Its role models are a disgusting collection of misfits, psychopaths, sociopaths and worse. Warmongers, pedophiles, woke wankers, snowflakes, MAGA midgets, impotent patriots, vomit their drivel on all MSM outlets without being brought to task.

The dumbing down of murika is about complete as each individual citizen turns on the other based on the other's skin color. Armed to the teeth with personal weapons and basements full of cartridges that they are too scared and confused to use they yearn for someone to save them from their self-created hell.

D.C. is a mirror reflecting the descent into idiocy of what was once a nation with so much promise.

Tick Tock.

Posted by: robert | Apr 16 2021 5:39 utc | 77

I meant to say: I am worried about it going bad too, very worried.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 16 2021 5:41 utc | 78

Machine translation of a Telegram note by Anna News war correspondet in Syria, Aleksandr Kharchenko.

Three years ago three powers joined forces and struck Syria. The Americans, British and French decided to blame the Syrian government for the chemical attack in Duma. Whether she really was or not was of no interest to anyone. It was important to punish Assad, who began to win in a bloody civil war. We slept little that night. We counted the arrivals around the city and watched the Buks leave to intercept the Tomahawks into the night sky. And after the Syrians themselves shot down 2/3 of the "democratic" missiles, the people went out to celebrate in the streets. The nation was glad that it was able to repel the blow of the largest military powers. The week before April 14, the Americans were preparing to strike. They drove up the flotilla and began to threaten the Syrians with inevitable punishment. Then we all wondered whether they would be fucked up or not. The voices were equally divided. And when it seemed to everyone that the danger had passed, the rockets flew.

So, the situation on the western border of Russia somewhat reminds me of that state. The parties brought sufficient forces and means into the fields. The rhetoric on the international stage is still hot. After the conversation between the presidents of Russia and the United States, many seem to have exhaled. Like, the danger has passed, can be friends again. So I would warn those who are counting on an early resolution of this confrontation. Nothing is over yet.

The vectors in international politics have already been drawn. The collective West will press Russia from all sides. An Iranian scenario is being prepared for us, no matter how anyone likes it. And today's sanctions are proof of that. Europe will be frightened with us, and therefore do not hope for the withdrawal of American troops, they will only increase their presence. Difficult tests await us ahead. But Syria taught me one thing - do not be afraid of American strikes. If you freeze with fear and wait for the next decision from Washington, this is a sure way to the abyss. You need to continue to work and defend your interests. And we will shoot down all Tomahawks. If the Syrians could, then why, are we worse? Alexander Kharchenko.

Posted by: Paco | Apr 16 2021 5:57 utc | 79

The Australian Citizens Party has now assembled eight articles on Xinjiang and the US fostering of East Turkistan separatism and jihadism in that region into a 40-page report "Xinjiang: China's western frontier in the heart of Eurasia". Very interesting reading on the history of British interference in western Asia from the 19th century onwards and on the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, the sources of its funding (mainly US) and those sources' links to forced labour.

Posted by: Jen | Apr 16 2021 6:09 utc | 80

Next planned regime change could well be Mongolia. There are 20'000 NGO's for a population of 3 million. (Soros supported ones, and various spurious "humanitarian" groups included) USAID and Peace Corps "coordinated" Black lists of Pro-Russian Politicians. Elections this Summer and a recently expanded US Embassy.

All it needs are coloured flags and Cookies - to try to change the country into a US run satrapy, between China and Russia.

https://journal-neo.org/2021/04/14/the-us-strengthens-its-presence-in-mongolia/

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 16 2021 7:46 utc | 81

Jen #80

This link works ;)

An eight-article series from the Australian Alert Service in November 2020–March 2021, “Xinjiang: China’s western frontier in the heart of Eurasia”, is now assembled as a 40-page Special Report.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 16 2021 7:59 utc | 82

More poor uyghur oppression BS exposed at MintPressNews.

Chief propagandists are exposed:

“The Chinese regime is waging war against humanity. Against the basic rights God has given to us and waging war against our ethnicity and religion,” Abbas told the crowd.

Her profile – now scrubbed from the internet – boasts of “extensive experience working with U.S. government agencies, including Homeland Security, Department of Defense, Department of State, Department of Justice, and various U.S. intelligence agencies.” Most famously, she worked as a translator for Uyghur detainees at the notorious Guantanamo Bay detention camp.

Abbas also worked at Radio Free Asia – what The New York Times described as a “Worldwide Propaganda Network Built by the C.I.A.” Today, she heads the Campaign For Uyghurs, an organization funded by the National Endowment for Democracy.

Also in attendance was Elfidar Iltebir, secretary of the Uyghur American Association. This is a subsidiary of the World Uyghur Congress, the main NED-funded organ of the separatist movement. The NED has granted millions of dollars to the World Uyghur Congress since its founding, and gave it the Democracy Award in 2019.

“As the world has witnessed in the last decade, Chinese communists, instead of respecting religious beliefs, and embracing democracy, [has] become more racist, fascist and tyrannical,” Iltebir said.

Days before the rally, Iltebir took part in a Uyghur caravan denouncing a “Stop Asian Hate” rally. Fellow caravan participants shouted obscenities at the protesters.

These are not just useful idiots, they set out to betray their own people and act as fuel for the racist fire and all for a few pieces of silver.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 16 2021 10:13 utc | 83

Philippines joins concerns over Fukushima water dumping.

Japan is committing a crime against humanity with its reckless dumping of nuclear reactor waste into the pacific ocean.

So far the opposition voices are China, Russia, North and South Korea and the Philippines.

Where are all the south pacific nations?

This needs to be a debated and challenged in the UN. Regardless of the continuous efforts from the West to shut down the UN, it is issues of this magnitude that need that platform for discussion.

Following suit of Japan's neighboring countries including China, Russia and South Korea, the Philippines is the first Southeast Asian country to express deep concerns over Japan's decision to dump Fukushima wastewater into the sea.

Philippine presidential spokesperson Harry Roque said on Thursday he hopes that nations, including those behind the pollution, would follow the law's principles, and pay for the damage, local media reported.

"First principle is we are one ecosystem. Second principle is that we are interconnected and the third principle is that the polluter must pay," he noted.

Chinese analysts said Southeast Asian countries except Laos are maritime countries, and they are also major fishing countries...

...However, the Global Times found that media in Vietnam, Indonesia, and other countries in the region seemed to have downplayed the coverage with few comments and reports over the Fukushima wastewater dumping.

Zhuang Guotu, head of Xiamen University's Southeast Asian Studies Center, told the Global Times on Thursday that Southeast Asian countries have a close relationship with Japan both politically and economically, which could possibly explain their reluctance to speak out against Japan.

Also, given US support for Japan's decision and the silence of many Western countries, Southeast Asian countries may have scruples to speak out and have underestimated the possible impact of the radioactively contaminated water.

"I believe more countries in the region will voice out and raise their concerns or opposition, following the Philippines," said Zhuang.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 16 2021 10:30 utc | 84

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 16 2021 10:30 utc | 84

Hey look at it this way, it will be easier to catch the fish when they glow in the dark./sarc

Typical attempt to deal with the fuckup, stall for a long time and then attempt to ignore it. Like a child who does not want to eat their dinner, but can't talk back either.

Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 16 2021 11:01 utc | 85

That Japan wastewater stuff is dangerous, no lie, even the locals are protesting it.

Hopefully this stink will sink the LDP and save Japan.

Posted by: Smith | Apr 16 2021 11:21 utc | 86

One has to nderstand the Russian mentality towards anything or any country that poses an ''invader threat'' or wants to disrupt their peace, as the German 1930-40s army, Napoleon, British etc.
Putin has made a lot or mistakes, showing a likely growth in division between the Russian military and government, the military are not pleased with appeasement shown by Putin/Lavrov towards the West, US. The military would have been preparing the Donbass patriots as the US has been sending more offensive weapons, that will end up in the hands of the sold or captured to the Donbass. The Ukrop army was defeated by a ragtag bunch of retired soldiers, farmers and miners, there is not much training can do to spruce up a corrupt and drunk army, as always nothing good will come out of the billions poured in by the US/EU, worse of Austin ''mythic Syrian terrorist army' in charge.
Nuland is in the mix with more political cookies, Russia will not stand for this any more, regretting why they did not act initially. Biden is suffering from dimentia, thus Putin's 'good health' wish, the West and former Warsaw Pact nations are reluctant to kick a fuss with the Bear, including Poland which has gone quite now after the Bear snarled.
Russia may eventually takeover part of East Ukraine, which Donbass had taken had Putin not interferred. Now the Russian military have started to influence the situation, the sanctions have helped forward match the response, Russian have mostly been a 'reactive' people but not 'initiators'.
#The new Russian weapons including EMP denied by others, are real and very dangerous
# Russians have now referred to the US as an 'Adversary' thats a very significantis what turned the two rust buckets back home from intended
#The US face 4 theatres of war operations simultaneously, Ukraine, Mid-East, Asia, and South America(dormant one).
# NATO will be torn apart as nations realise that rhetoric without serious military backup is dangerous.
# War is both economical and military, the first has been on-going pushed by US sanctions after saction on Russia and other Axis of Resistance nations
There will be blood but Georgia-style, however Russia may seek to ensure that Ukraine remains under its domain by force to prevent Nato creep.

Posted by: Lenin | Apr 16 2021 12:23 utc | 87

PART 1: CNN Director ADMITS Network Engaged in ‘Propaganda’ to Remove Trump from Presidency … ‘Our Focus Was to Get Trump Out of Office’ … ‘I Came to CNN Because I Wanted to Be a Part of That’

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/part-1-cnn-director-admits-network-engaged-in-propaganda-to-remove-trump/

PART 2: CNN Director Charlie Chester Reveals How Network Practices ‘Manipulation’ to ‘Change the World’: ‘There’s an Art to Manipulation… Inflection, Saying Things Twice … It’s Always Like Leading Them in a Direction Before They Even Open Their Mouths’

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/part-2-cnn-director-charlie-chester-reveals-how-network-practices/

PART 3: CNN Director Charlie Chester Says Network Is ‘Trying To Help’ The Black Lives Matter Movement By Protecting The Group’s Narrative On Race … ‘I Haven't Seen Anything About Focusing On The Color Of People's Skin That Aren't White’

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/part-3-cnn-director-charlie-chester-says-network-is-trying-to-help-the-black/

James O’Keefe RESPONDS to TWITTER ACCOUNT SUSPENSION Following BOMBSHELL CNN TAPES: Says He Plans to SUE THE PLATFORM FOR ‘DEFAMATORY STATEMENTS’

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/james-okeefe-responds-to-twitter-account-suspension-following-bombshell-cnn/

Posted by: Mao | Apr 16 2021 12:52 utc | 88

Google translation:

USA did not let the leader of the Russian junior national ice hockey team at the World Cup in Texas
The leader of the Russian junior ice hockey team, Ivan Miroshnichenko, will not be able to compete at the World Championship in the United States due to border crossing problems, the Championship reports.

As it turned out, the US Migration Service for unknown reasons does not allow the 17-year-old striker of the Omsk Hawks to enter the country, although Miroshnichenko has a visa. The Russian national team has not yet departed for the States, but the American authorities have already warned the Russian Ice Hockey Federation (FHR) about the impossibility of crossing the border by the captain of the junior national team.

"The FHR received a letter from the USA. This letter says that Ivan Miroshnichenko cannot cross the American border. This is a decision of the Migration Service, it is not subject to appeals and complaints. Ivan previously had the same situation when he wanted to leave to play in North America. , but he was not given a visa to Canada. Now the migration service simply does not allow him to enter the United States, "a source in the FHR told the publication.

In 2020, Miroshnichenko, as part of the Russian national team, became the winner of the Winter Youth Olympics. He tried to pursue a career in Canada, but the country refused him a visa.

The Junior World Championships will be held in the United States from April 27 to May 7.

Posted by: Mao | Apr 16 2021 13:14 utc | 89

George W. Bush: Immigration is a defining asset of the United States. Here’s how to restore confidence in our system.

Bush is right: the USA is highly dependent on mass immigration for the maintenance of its economy. I've already put the numbers here some week ago, but if memory doesn't fail me, of the 3.4% GDP growth the USA had some years ago, 2.0% was vegetative, i.e. purely due to demographic growth (i.e. mass immigration).

The border closing is also very bad for the American Empire in another sense: it breaks the sacred unwritten social contract it has with the Latin American people. The Latin American people offers their own countries as tribute to the American Empire; in exchange, they get to immigrate at will (in a "come if you can" system) in order to live within the confines of the Empire proper, thus enjoying the fruits of their sacrifice. If the Latin Americans are blocked from reaching American soil, expect the USA to face some Germanic Barbarian invasion problem.

Posted by: vk | Apr 16 2021 14:00 utc | 90

Gotta say, I'm glad that Biden is such an incompetent, bumbling senile moron. I am more than sick and tired of the incessant, unnecessary and counterproductive bear baiting. We all know what they are doing in the background: the "war on terror" is a bust. It never could make up for the extremely lucrative and useful Cold War with the old Soviet Union so they have been embarked on trying to create a completely avoidable and stupid Cold War 2.0 with Russia. They can't do it with China because they are all heavily invested in China and make personal bank on these investments - if they did true Cold War with China it would upend all kinds of economic apple carts.

So the "deep state" (neocon and neoliberal permanent state actors) keeps making up Russian plots and crimes and provocations out of thin air, all to keep the MIC fed and the power and money flowing through their hands. So, again, I'm glad that the US has backed down on this and won't blatantly stoke the bullshit fires of WW3. This time, at least.

Posted by: Praedor | Apr 16 2021 14:05 utc | 91

Mao | Apr 16 2021 13:14 utc | 89


Wooooh, the US can't stand losing in it's own land. Rather like the 1936 Olympics in Germany. I always wondered what happened to the lady that dropped the baton. She wasn't "heiled" as a heroine.

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 16 2021 14:05 utc | 92

The situation in Myanmar is real bad, they already have a dual government going on.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/4/16/myanmar-silent-strike

We are appraching Syria in SEA, this is bad.

Posted by: Smith | Apr 16 2021 14:57 utc | 94

In 1971 when Nixon took the US off the gold standard it was because France was buying at the fixed $35/oz and making a killing

Fast forward to today and the Quote below from a ZH piece
"
The People's Bank of China (PBOC), the nation's central bank, controls how much gold enters China through a system of quotas given to commercial banks. It usually allows enough metal in to satisfy local demand but sometimes restricts the flow.

In recent weeks it has given permission for large amounts of bullion to enter, the sources said.

"We had no quotas for a while. Now we are getting them ... the most since 2019," said a source at one of the banks moving gold into China.

Around 150 tonnes of gold worth $8.5 billion at current prices is likely to be shipped, four sources said. Two of the sources said the bullion would be shipped in April. Two others said it would reach China over April and May.
"

The gold markets in the West are totally manipulated and held down at this point but given the above, our civilization war just opened a new front.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 16 2021 15:01 utc | 95

Chinese military shares the same analysis as mine over the American retreat from Afghanistan:

Despite limited influence, full withdrawal from Afghanistan reflects US in strategic retreat from Mideast

The US is contracting its claws, Russia is biding its time, Europe is having its own plate full, and China is cautious – the once much-contended Middle East has become unattractiveto major countries for the first time.

The US floated the idea of shifting its strategic focus to the Asia Pacific in Obama’s term, and the Middle East has not been the center of its global strategy ever since. The China-US struggle is a strategic game between major countries while pulling troops from Afghanistan is just a tactical move – they cannot be mentioned in the same breath, and the US doesn’t count on the 2,500 troops from Afghanistan to deter China. Many people in the US are rooting for the quick troop withdrawal as part of the efforts to concentrate all energy on confronting China, but that’s just face-saving rhetoric to gloss over their crestfallen retreat from the Middle East.

Posted by: vk | Apr 16 2021 15:43 utc | 96

@Zynski

There are concentration camps of liberals in southern Georgia. If you are not willing to entertain the possibility you are a fool

Posted by: Michael Weddington | Apr 16 2021 15:43 utc | 97

vk pointed to an article on HK electoral reform: 'Also noteworthy is that Beijing has also greatly reduced the influence of the historically important Hong Kong business community by reorganizing the Election Committee, making it such that the community no longer possible to influence the selection of the Chief Executive'
Exactly. Beijing is furious that HK has not addressed the welfare needs of its people and has failed for example to construct affordable housing due in part to the blocking power of the business and land owning elite (which the UK wanted empowered to protect private property and its liberal market order).
Compare with Shenzhen.

Posted by: md | Apr 16 2021 15:57 utc | 98

@ migueljose | Apr 16 2021 4:30 utc | 74... thanks for those updates migueljose!

thanks to the many other posters with the links and etc. too.. i have been too busy to follow it all, but appreciate everyone's kindness here..

Posted by: james | Apr 16 2021 16:11 utc | 99

to josemiguel. Re ecuador - I read, and am still looking for the source, that what tipped the vote in Lasso's favor (in the first round he had only 19.74% vs 32.7% for Arauz) was the actions of the so called indigenous candidate, Perez. This Perez made a deal with Lasso and instructed his followers to vote "null" (which is an option in ecuador) Although it would seem logical for the indigenous peoples to vote for Arauz, they followed their leader, resulting in a "null" vote of over 16%. Lasso's margin of victory, one notes, is 5%. It will be "interesting" to see how this plays out. Not so good for the majority in ecuador, one thinks, and likely quite bad for the amazing naturaleza.

Ben Norton did a piece on Perez which you can find in the grayzone. I will keep looking for the nuts and bolts of the election. The article in question was not too complimentary to Correa. I can attest from my visit to the country that he started off well - but there was back sliding. Pressures?

Thanks for your post. Good news from peru. It's amazing how Fujimoro keeps keeping on...

Posted by: Miss Lacy | Apr 16 2021 16:35 utc | 100

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