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April 17, 2021

Biden's Russia-China Tactic Is To Wage War AND To Ask For Cooperation. It Will Fail.

The policies of the Biden administration towards Russia and China are delusional. It thinks that it can squeeze these countries but still successfully ask them for cooperation. It believes that the U.S. position is stronger than it really is and that China and Russia are much weaker than they are.

It is also full of projection. The U.S. accuses both countries of striving for empire, of wanting to annex more land and of human rights violations. But is only the U.S. that has expanding aspirations. Neither China nor Russia are interested in running an empire. They have no interest in planting military bases all over the world. Though both have marginal border conflicts they do not want to acquire more land. And while the U.S. bashes both countries for alleged human rights issues it is starving whole populations (Yemen, Syria, Venezuela) through violence and economic sanctions.

The U.S. power structures in the Pentagon and CIA use the false accusations against Russia and China as pretense for cold military and hot economic wars against both countries. They use color revolution schemes (Ukraine, Myanmar) to create U.S. controlled proxy forces near their borders.

At the same time as it tries to press these countries the U.S. is seeking their cooperation in selected fields. It falsely believes that it has some magical leverage.

Consider this exchange from yesterday's White House press briefing about Biden asking for a summit with Putin while, at the same time, implementing more sanctions against Russia:

Q What if [Putin] says “no,” though? Wouldn’t that indicate some weakness on the part of the American administration here?

MS. PSAKI: Well, I think the President’s view is that Russia is on the outside of the global community in many respects, at this point in time. It’s the G7, not the G8. They have — obviously, we’ve put sanctions in place in order to send a clear message that there should be consequences for the actions; the Europeans have also done that.

What the President is offering is a bridge back. And so, certainly, he believes it’s in their interests to take him up on that offer.

The G7 are not the 'global community'. They have altogether some 500 million inhabitants out of 7.9 billion strong global population. Neither China nor India are members of the G7 nor is any South American or African country. Moreover Russia has rejected a Russian return into the G7/8 format:

“Russia is focused on other formats, apart from the G7,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said in a brief statement ..

Russia has no interest in a summit which would only be used by the U.S. to further bash Russia. Why should it give Biden that pleasure when there is nothing that Russia would gain from it. Russia does not need a 'bridge back'. There will be no summit.

Biden also  called for a climate summit during which he hopes to show 'American leadership' and to dictated to other countries, especially China, how much they will have to reduce their output of climate changing gases:

The Biden administration is nearing agreements with Japan, South Korea and Canada to bolster carbon emission reduction targets in all four countries ahead of a closely watched summit of global leaders on Earth Day, April 22.

But in the latest sign of how difficult it will be for President Biden to make climate change a core part of his foreign policy, similar deals with China, India and Brazil, economic powerhouses that together produce more than a third of global emissions, remain elusive.

John Kerry, Mr. Biden’s global climate envoy, is preparing to make a last-minute trip to China and South Korea ahead of the summit, which Mr. Biden will be hosting.

China however does not agree with U.S. 'leadership':

China has demonstrated its ambition in global climate governance, and also sent a signal to the US that climate negotiations between the two countries are on equal terms, and that China is not and won't be the "attendant" of US-centered climate campaign, Chinese observers commented on Wednesday.
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Chinese observers called Washington's move as "trying to form a US-centered climate cooperation circle" in order to shore up its leadership on global issues. However, China has now shouldered the responsibility of global climate governance, as the US' frequent departure and then return to global cooperation on this issue has marred global cooperation and diminished other countries efforts, said Li.

Kerry is now in China where he had hoped to have top level meetings. But China's Chairman Xi has shown him a cold shoulder. The day before Kerry arrived Xi held is own climate summit with the German Chancellor Merkel and the French President Macron. It was the top news in Chinese media while Kerry's gig was hardly mentioned:


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Chinese President Xi Jinping attended a video summit with French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Beijing on Friday.

The leaders of the three countries exchanged in-depth views on cooperation in coping with climate change, China-Europe relations, anti-pandemic cooperation, and major international and regional issues.
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The three leaders agreed that it is necessary to uphold multilateralism, fully implement the Paris Agreement, and jointly build a fair, reasonable, cooperative, and win-win global climate governance system, and promote this summit to achieve positive, balanced, and pragmatic results.

Kerry in contrast only met a Chinese climate envoy and had a virtual meeting with Vice-Premier Han Zheng. No new commitments were made to him.

Biden's and Kerry's exhorations about climate issues are also extraordinary hypocritical as the U.S. is currently attacking China's solar industry in Xinjiang with baseless allegations of labor abuse.

If Biden wants cooperation with Russia or China he needs to reign in the hawks and stop his attacks on those countries. As he is not willing or capable of doing that any further cooperation attempts will fall flat.

The U.S. has to learn that it is no longer the top dog. It can not work ceaselessly to impact Russia's and China's military and economic security and still expect them to cooperate. If it wants something it will first have to cease the attacks and to accept multilateral relationships.

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@ uncle tungsten | Apr 18 2021 5:00 utc | 80

As always ;-)
A great link. Could be very usefull to get a transcript.

Any idea?

Posted by: Bernard F. | Apr 18 2021 8:59 utc | 101

Cortes #86


Ha ha comedy gold indeed. Here is Steve Pieczenic again on China and President Xi. One gets the impression that Steve is a can do special ops dude that leaves 007 in the VW while Steve drives Aston Martin.

Steve is so testosteroned up he imagines he could beat the Chinese himself with a good kayak and a revolver.

This is a big 'hate China' dummy spit.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 18 2021 9:10 utc | 102

Bernard F. #101

I have no idea of transcript but if needed perhaps download and save. The facial nuances are mighty. The second one I posted at #102 is incroyable.

What is this thing between the Jews and Chinese - the jews hate so hard here. Is it socialism succeeding and stealing the power from USA and therefore Israel?? Is it the zero interest loan system that rolls along the belt and road? Is it no chance to finance China's infrastructure bonanza? It is visceral and written all over Steve's face here.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 18 2021 9:19 utc | 103

What is this thing between the Jews and Chinese - the jews hate so hard here.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 18 2021 9:19 utc | 103

Recent development. My (conspiracy) theory: they - the CIA - were "betrayed". The Corona scheme was gonna put down Russia, Iran and all the enemies, good and hard, said the Chinese to the CIA. But Russia got the vaccine, and look who was put down good and hard.

Posted by: veto | Apr 18 2021 9:34 utc | 104

@ psychohistorian | Apr 18 2021 6:02 utc | 85.


Who is stupid enough to invade Taiwan or China?...or Russia.....or Iran....or Venezuela....or North Korea or ???

Unfortunately the same as Bahia de cochino [see above Feliz Compleano Cuba]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr6QCcsRd1U
Using the same scheme of trained proxies with US Navy backstage.

Don't work in 1961, (not anymore in a slightly different form 1974/Saïgon) but why not again? .
Isn't the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

Posted by: Bernard F. | Apr 18 2021 9:59 utc | 105

If the US have turned Byzantine, the EU is into late Roman decadence
https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/04/thousands-sign-petition-calling-for-mass-concert-to-be-cancelled/

Posted by: Mina | Apr 18 2021 10:05 utc | 106

Norwegian at 98 says:


"I'd like to know how Zelensky and the Kiev authorities are supposed to get out of this situation without falling apart."

Well, if I were Zelensky I might imagine getting myself out of this mess by the following steps:

1. Keep raising the ante. Scream about an imminent Russian invasion, keep your population panicked (by concocting a list of "bomb shelters" in Kiev, for example). Keep actual violence against the Donbass republics at just low enough a level to not be enough provocation for a Russisn intervention,for now.

2. Keep acquiring missiles from NATO, and trainers in how to use them. Negotiate with Sultan Erdoğan for headchopper mercenaries (especially Chechens and other Russisn speakers).

3. Arrange for NATO exercises in Ukranazistan this summer.

4. Under cover of those exercises, using the NATOstanis as human shields in fact, attack the Donbass Republics, and only the Donbass Republics. Use the headchoppers as shock troops to minimise own losses. Capture the Donetsk and Lugansk main urban areas, leave slices right on the Russian border. Do not touch Crimea.

5. Present this as a huge victory, like Ilham Aliyev did in Nagorno Karabakh.

As I said, this would be my plan if I were Zelensky. Whether it would work depends on how much "restraint " Putin is willing to give up on, and how much risk he's willing to take.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Apr 18 2021 10:11 utc | 107

How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb

@ Norwegian | Apr 18 2021 7:43 utc | 95


The present stand-off cannot last forever, so it is a question of time before something falls apart.
Russia used the aggressive move by NATO/Ukraine to perform a judo-like move

The speed of execution of the manoeuvre also calls for admiration when NATO can’t even move an armoured division in Poland (inadequate road infrastructure)

But Evil is in the details. And as the greatest french dialogue writer: "Les conneries c'est comme les impôts, on finit toujours par les payer."
[Bullshit is like taxes, you always end up paying them.]

Posted by: Bernard F. | Apr 18 2021 10:41 utc | 108

All of the NATO ATGM's in the world won't make a pick of difference against russian artillery or their strategic rocket forces.

Zelensky get's out of it by turning his squeaky clean nato trained troops against his own domestic nazis and upholding his end of the minsk agreement.

Who knows.. he might even survive it too.

Posted by: S.O. | Apr 18 2021 10:43 utc | 109

One picture says all about Bellingcraps B*sh*t:
https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1383687849816428545

Posted by: Wolle | Apr 18 2021 10:44 utc | 110

This is not off topic - on the contrary.
Russia threatens Germany
We need to talk about Germany. by: JB @ 10 Golly Gee!!?!!
<=Germany calls Russia a direct and specific threat b/c Russia
1. places it arms & missiles where its opponents put theirs. and
2. conducts its warfare in the middle of German owned Europe.and
3. accurately stations its missiles to defend its nation.. and
4. acts before it obtains German permission .. and
5. defends its borders without German approval..and
6. defines itself without first consulting Germany... and
7. uses the same kind of weapons, tactics and strategies that
Germany does, making Germany no better than Russia.
8. urinates without permission of Germany?
9. will silence German intolerance when Russia joins the EU.

9 very exciting talking points.

condorpuma @ 22 says "The Empire is trying to surround and castrate Russia.
Russian interests are being hit every day.Sanctions for ever, more and more"
<=England and France did that to Germany in the run up to WWI.
blame, block, contain, deny, infringe and limit.. bbcdil state craft.

“The secret of success is to own nothing but control everything.”
by: oglalla @ 18 <= can only be done by owning the nation states that
make copyright, patent and license laws and hand out govt contracts.
without the nation state there would be no monopoly power.

Posted by: snake | Apr 18 2021 11:34 utc | 111

@ snake
AKK is a joke.

Inable to control the Thuringe branch of her own political party. She duly gave up her ambition of running to succeed Chancellor Angela Merkel, her mentor, as chancellor.
Recycled as DoD ministry. In Germany, since 1945, it's just a fictitious Job.

We need to talk about Germany

Posted by: Bernard F. | Apr 18 2021 12:11 utc | 112

@ uncle tungsten | Apr 18 2021 9:19 utc | 103

Yes, Steve Pieczenik is impressive! He's really not an idiot nor dement. That’s pure hate. Why ?

I don't know for "jews", a little bit more on "Israelis". And they are afraid of anything not full controled.


The G7 are not the 'global community'. They have altogether some 500 million inhabitants out of 7.9 billion strong global population.

"jews" are 13 millions worldwide, but 6 in Israël and 5 in the USA [and not all of them Pro-Israël] . Multilaterality is not suitable for a so small colonial entity without "Lebensraum"
They need the American Top Dog.

Steve Pieczenik is more complex than that. Perhaps thoses guys from alt-right remember Korean and Vietnamese wars, thinking that they deserve to win but... 'the Chinese help NK & NV'

Posted by: Bernard F. | Apr 18 2021 13:01 utc | 113

AKK is really a bad joke!

About Germany it's similarly like 170 year ago:
Denk ich an Deutschland in der Nacht,
Dann bin ich um den Schlaf gebracht,
Ich kann nicht mehr die Augen schließen,
Und meine heißen Tränen fließen.

Heinrich Heine "Nachtgedanken"
https://lyricstranslate.com/de/nachtgedanken-night-thoughts.html-0

Posted by: Wolle | Apr 18 2021 13:22 utc | 114

b writes:

"And while the U.S. bashes both countries for alleged human rights issues it is starving whole populations (Yemen, Syria, Venezuela) through violence and economic sanctions."

Add to that the callous disregard that the US and UK has shown to the HRs of its own population during the Covid-19 pandemic. The virus has been allowed to rip through the population while China has adopted and maintained a Zero-Covid policy from the outset.

Secondly, the West has hoarded its own vaccines for itself and shown an equally callous disregard for the poor global south countries, who received little or no assistance from the rich countries. Meanwhile, it has been left to China, Cuba and Russia to supply the global south with donated and non-profit/cost price vaccines and PPE.

Posted by: ftmntf | Apr 18 2021 13:46 utc | 115

China has exported half of its production of vaccines to the global south during the pandemic. The same will doubtless true of its PPE production. And Cuba has exported its medical staff to many of the hardest hit poor countries.

Posted by: ftmntf | Apr 18 2021 13:59 utc | 116

@16. 'The problem as I see it is they have a great deal of a certain kind of intelligence, as someone said “smart, but not wise”. They are educated, but insane. The cream of the crop that has gone sour. In my travels I would often ask people what they actually thought of “Americans”. An Indonesian man responded “ soft, but cunning. You have to be careful around them.” '

I think the description you are struggling to find is 'expensively (mis-)educated, indoctrinated, savages.'

Posted by: ftmntf | Apr 18 2021 14:18 utc | 117

@ Posted by: Bernard F. | Apr 18 2021 6:27 utc | 88

It's only a prediction. But yes, it makes sense: as the American Empire shrinks while attempting to restore its former glory, it will need to have a correspondent ideology to back it up - at least among the members of its Armed Forces. You have to do it because, in the absence of the carrot, you have to double down on the big stick, and the USA doesn't have a draft, but an 100% voluntary military.

My guess it will be some kind of fusion between Christian (Evangelical) fundamentalism and white supremacism (Herrenvolk Democracy). It has to be Evangelical Christianism, otherwise I can't see mass support for the cause of Israel among the American military and masses.

It's also important to remind you that the American Empire is not only West-East: it has a center (USA proper + Canada) and a south (Latin America). In my opinion, the American Empire will only disappear when it loses its south (American Empire in the South, or Southern American Empire). Latin America is the core of the Empire, its "soft underbelly". It would still be a formidable universal empire even if it loses the European Peninsula (American Empire in the East).

Posted by: vk | Apr 18 2021 14:19 utc | 118

@antonym 99 This biobabble does not explain anything. Bezos is not like Xi, and that you US americans tend to personalize everything ("it's Saddam, Assad, Putin, Xi .." ) does not stem from genes but from Hollywood and MSM.

Posted by: aquadraht | Apr 18 2021 14:22 utc | 119

Mr. M

North Korea has been able to maintain her sovereignty.

Americans want to destroy all other sovereign powers but their own.

Will not happen.

Posted by: Fyi | Apr 18 2021 14:29 utc | 120

Mr. Antonym

They have hierarchies.

The primates also have a sense of Justice.

Posted by: Fyi | Apr 18 2021 14:33 utc | 121

British liberal journalist and academic George Monbiot has written about his own experiences being dragged away from his family at the tender age of 8 to be 'educated', that is emotionally crippled, in an elite British private boarding school (primary stage prep-school). See:

https://www.monbiot.com/2008/01/22/unsentimental-education/

"British private schools create a class culture of a kind unknown in the rest of Europe. The extreme case is the boarding prep schools, which separate children from their parents at the age of eight in order to shape them into members of a detached elite. In his book The Making of Them the psychotherapist Nick Duffell shows how these artificial orphans survive the loss of their families by dissociating themselves from their feelings of love(14). Survival involves “an extreme hardening of normal human softness, a severe cutting off from emotions and sensitivity.”(15) Unable to attach themselves to people (intimate relationships with other children are discouraged by a morbid fear of homosexuality), they are encouraged instead to invest their natural loyalties in the institution.

This made them extremely effective colonial servants: if their commander ordered it, they could organise a massacre without a moment’s hesitation (witness the detachment of the officers who oversaw the suppression of the Mau Mau, quoted in Caroline Elkins’s book, Britain’s Gulag(16)). It also meant that the lower orders at home could be put down without the least concern for the results. For many years, Britain has been governed by damaged people.

I went through this system myself, and I know I will spend the rest of my life fighting its effects. But one of the useful skills it has given me is an ability to recognise it in others. I can spot another early boarder at 200 metres: you can see and smell the damage dripping from them like sweat. The Conservative cabinets were stuffed with them: even in John Major’s “classless” government, 16 of the 20 male members of the 1993 cabinet had been to public school; 12 of them had boarded(17). Privately-educated people dominate politics, the civil service, the judiciary, the armed forces, the City, the media, the arts, academia, the most prestigious professions, even, as we have seen, the Charity Commission. They recognise each other, fear the unshaped people of the state system, and, often without being aware that they are doing it, pass on their privileges to people like themselves.

The system is protected by silence. Because private schools have been so effective in moulding a child’s character, an attack on the school becomes an attack on all those who have passed through it. Its most abject victims become its fiercest defenders. How many times have I heard emotionally-stunted people proclaim “it never did me any harm”? In the Telegraph last year, Michael Henderson boasted of the delightful eccentricity of his boarding school. “Bad work got you an ‘order mark’. One foolish fellow, Brown by name, was given a double order mark for taking too much custard at lunch. How can you not warm to a teacher who awards such punishment? … Petty snobbery abounded,” he continued, “but only wets are put off by a bit of snobbery. So long as you pulled your socks up, and didn’t let the side down, you wouldn’t be for the high jump. Which is as it should be.”(18) A ruling class in a persistent state of repression is a very dangerous thing."

See also

https://www.monbiot.com/2012/04/23/dark-hearts/

And

https://www.monbiot.com/2012/10/08/the-empire-strikes-back/

Posted by: ftmntf | Apr 18 2021 14:33 utc | 122

I should add that Hitler was a huge fan of the British empire and located the secret of its success in the British elite private schools.

Posted by: ftmntf | Apr 18 2021 14:36 utc | 123

@123
Hitler was a British Agent covers Hitler's psychological training in Britain during his missing year (1912) and how this was activated throughout WWII to steer him as a puppet of British intelligence, carrying out their plan to destroy the European powers, particularly France, Germany and Russia.

He visited Liverpool a lot of time to visit his brother Alois. Whom was married a Irish immigrant in town. His brother son alisted on the US army anyway.

I'm Austrian myself. How explain that an irrelevant Austrian low middle class failed talentless painter clown from Linz could rise so high in life to arrive at Germany Chancellery? Before him only the creme de la creme of the German and Prussian elite reached that position.
Who funded his ativist years in the 20s. Paid him lawyers, prosecutor to get him out of jail. Weimar years was a wild and corrupt place.

Hitler was a clown like Zelensky

Posted by: Nick | Apr 18 2021 15:00 utc | 124

Featherless | Apr 18 2021 0:33 utc | 60... i see they are claiming navalny might die if he is left in prison... they are spinning him onto the front page of cbc news today, but no comments allowed.... why am i not surprised! that is funny what you say too - no russians die from novichok!

Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 18 2021 4:38 utc | 79.. true what you say.... i still find pat repugnant on alternative viewpoints, but i agree with you..

@ Wolle | Apr 18 2021 10:44 utc | 110... bellingcrap really is that thick and stupid... not even funny!

Posted by: james | Apr 18 2021 15:14 utc | 125

aquadraht | Apr 18 2021 7:29 utc | 94

You are an amazing ignorant! The Roman Empire was much more than just a "predatory culture". "Predatory" is rather the culture producing mindsets like yours! The Roman civilzation was based on assimilation, not predation. Have you any idea how many Roman emperors were of non-Roman birth? You would be surprised! How many examples can you quote of Russian, Mongol, Han, or Manchu, or Bantu emperors of non-Russian, non-Mongol, non-Han, or non-Manchu, or non-Bantu birth? The world, its architecture, its liberal arts, its law (even the Chinese!), its literature would be the same without the Roman influence! Go see London, Washington D.C., St Petersburg and you will find everywere traces of its influence in the architecture. True, allottment of land to the veteran legionars was standard practice, but this did not entail the replacement of the native. Or do you seriously think that all people living within the range of the former Roman Empire are descendants of legionars?
Old Christian Orthodox Russian Empire practised serfdom. Different word, same notion. "By the eighteenth century, the practice of selling serfs without land had become commonplace. Owners had absolute control over their serfs' lives, and could buy, sell and trade them at will, giving them as much power over serfs as Americans had over chattel slaves." Their official number was about 20.900.000 in 1861, when serfdom was abolished in Russia.
American natives were mostly wiped by smallpox, not forced labor.
The Muslim-Arab slave trade in Africa dated from the very beginning of the islamization of the continent. It lasted for thirtheen centuries (7th-20th C) without interruption and resulted in the killing, castration or enslavement of 17 millions of black Africans (Tidiane N’Diaye, Le Génocide voilé, 2008).
Current estimates are that about 12 million to 12.8 million Africans were shipped across the Atlantic over a span of 400 years (Ronald Segal, The Black Diaspora, 1995). The number purchased by the traders was considerably higher, but your figure of +400 millions is overly ridiculous.

Alberto

Posted by: Alberto | Apr 18 2021 15:14 utc | 126

@Nick
WW2 crippling the British Empire and ending the UK's tenure as a world power was just all part the UK's plan. Wait what?The very idea that British intelligence was sophisticated enough to organise psychological training for an Austrian mediocre artist who had just turned up out of the blue onto their doorstep in 1912 is just hilarious. At the time in question the British were still of the view that spies and all that gathering intelligence stuff was not gentlemanly. It was only in 1912 that Germany was being seen as a potential enemy in Europe. This led to the foundation of the Territorial Army Reserve in 1912.

Hitler was wholly a product of the collapse of the Imperial German Army that took place in 1918. He was an opportunist who deployed his own hysterical condition to secure the leadership of the NSDAP as he was wholly unsuitable for more conventional employment. He was a Germany's bourgeois class desperate act in 30s. Of course the British and American loved him.

Posted by: Pieer | Apr 18 2021 15:16 utc | 127

Mr. Alberto

Mostly true, see Rome et l'integration de L'Empire.

I think also that the tyranny of the (reconstructed and imagined) Classical Civilization's Legacy on the minds of deluded German intellectuals destroyed that country.

By the way, we did quite well fighting off those damn Romans, we still have our own culture and civilization.

Posted by: Fyi | Apr 18 2021 15:28 utc | 128

Antonym @ 99

Souls you say! We modern hominids are but hairless (by comparison..) apes fingering keyboards and keypads. We know not what we should do .. being as we are all thumbs .. which is to drop them on the rocky ground, and go on with the business of Life! We're are in fact, ourselves souless, gaia wasting creatures .. rudderless, emitting endless waftings of funk ... and not of the good kind either.

Posted by: polecat | Apr 18 2021 15:40 utc | 129

Mr. Polecat


"We modern hominids are but hairless (by comparison..) apes..."

That is, of course, Satan's Speech, aiming to mislead and to confuse and thus to reduce the intrinsic worth of human beings, creating the conceptual space for the consumption of their lives by richer and more powerful human beings.

"Gaia" is another modern idol, just like Freedom, Democracy, Free Market, Socialism, Economic Development, and a whole bunch of other such things created by the Lord of Flies.

Posted by: Fyi | Apr 18 2021 16:07 utc | 130

Posted by: m | Apr 18 2021 5:02 utc | 81

'@60 Fyi
You are probably the only person on earth who sees North Korea as a model of success.1

That is not what was said.

Nobody wants nukes. However, since the NPT is cynically ignored by the nuclear powers (e.g. UK just increased 'defence' spending by 10% INCREASING its number of nukes), the lesson of Iraq and Syrian wars for Iran, and other potential victims of the US, is surely (and sadly) to get them asap. Only then will Israel be forced to stop its assassinations and sabotage.

See:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTbcKlNo3eE

Posted by: ftmntf | Apr 18 2021 16:13 utc | 131

Mr. ftmntf

Right.

In fact, Americans, in their perennial Hubris, destroyed NPT.

Posted by: Fyi | Apr 18 2021 16:29 utc | 132

uncle tungsten #102

Thanks again. Steve conforms to a pattern I’ve noticed before: people who have an underbite display excessive belligerence.

Great handle btw: I must re-read that Sacks classic.

Posted by: Cortes | Apr 18 2021 20:27 utc | 133

Nobody wants nukes. However,
Posted by: ftmntf | Apr 18 2021 16:13 utc | 131

Speak for yourself. As far as I am concerned, I can get where I want on my bicycle. There are some inconveniences, like when the bicycle has to be repaired and I cannot spare money NOT TO DO IT, nevertheless the economy is better than with a car. First and foremost, you make much less of UNNECESSARY TRIPS. In the same time, I do not expect that everybody is like that (more of an observation in USA than expectation).

Similarly, consider two situations when nukes would be handy. First, suppose that you have, say, 20 billions of USD to spare and you are tired of hearing "BORING!!!". Yet another billionaire stupidly glad to be a billionaire. It would be nice to be different from the herd. How about a custom made fully functional replica of Tsar Bomba? What a conversation piece! And a negotiation tool too. State of Pennsylvania asks me to pay 1.2 billion sales tax on the thingy, and I ask if I will owe that if it gets accidentally detonated.

The second situation is when you have a really nasty job. It happened in the country of my birth that a women was unjustly fired from her job, so she got herself a katana, returned to her erstwhile place of work and hacked some furniture, scaring everyone in a very satisfying way. This is not the way to do it in USA. "Going postal" means that you visit your co-workers with a gun and make an actual massacre, comparatively, a smallish massacre, say, 10 persons. But imagine that you arrive in a tractor trailer with a Tsar Bomba, the impression is totally different! You can flatten the entire Indianapolis and several counties around... In other words, if you are inclined to leave this world with a bang, why not a really, really Big Bang?

I must stress that towing a Tsar Bomba, 10 tons, with a bicycle is out of the question, so personally I would not do it. Additionally, I lack 20 billion dollars, I have no problems with my former bosses and co-workers. But there are people who have one or the other if not both (20 billions AND a nasty boss? Humanity could be in danger.)

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 19 2021 3:12 utc | 134

@m #81:

In fact until most ecently the Czech Republic used to be one of the more pro-Russia leaning countries of Europe (together with Hungary).

Bullshit. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Since the 90s Czechia has been very anti-Russian, Russophobic even, up there with Poland and Baltic countries. Prague hosts the headquarters of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty and various “academic centers,” “summer schools” and “fellowship programs” for “journalists” that have been brainwashing Ukrainians with anti-Russian hate propaganda for 30 years, leading to the civil war, the loss of the West-occupied Ukraine’s political, economic and cultural sovereignty as well as complete destruction of its economic prospects. Czechs go out of their way to express disrespect and disdain for everything Russia-related. For example, they took the IS-2 tank that participated in the liberation of Czechoslovakia from Nazi Germany and was installed as a monument in Prague, painted it pink, “adorned” it with a giant penis and are “parading” it each year on a barge along the Vltava River. The poster m will probably consider it a funny “prank,” just as he/she considers the Army of the West-occupied Ukraine displaying Nazi flags on the frontline in Donbass a “prank,” but normal people understand and respect the sacrifices that the Soviet people made to defeat Nazi Germany (just to be clear, IS-2 tanks never participated in the suppression of 1968 Prague Spring) and, in any case, would never deface a monument to the fallen. No other country does this—not Poland, not Lithuania, not Latvia, not Estonia (yes, they remove some Soviet war monuments, but they never use them in ridiculous “performances”). As a side note, I’d like to remind my fellow MoA commenters that Czechoslovakia has produced diligently—without any strikes or sabotage—a quarter of all Nazi Germany weapons, most of which were, of course, used in the East, resulting in the deaths of 27 million Soviet people. Once the old generation passes away, Czechia will become more Russophobic than Poland.

Something serious must have happened otherwies Praque wouldn`t have changed course so drastically.

The “serious” thing that happened is that the CIA has finally achieved complete dominance over Czechia’s political system, removing last vestiges of sovereign agenda.

Posted by: S | Apr 19 2021 7:52 utc | 135

Mr S

All true.

In fact, the Czech were pro-communist earlier, before 1968 - around late 1940s through 1950s.

The Western bargain is very clear - Sovereignty for Brad & Circus.

Czechia's population pined for this, they did not need CIA to persuade them.

For many people all over the world - this is a very attractive bargain.

There would be many takers such as the pathetic Greeks as well as Czechs.

It reminds me of the Western notion of a Deal with the Devil - selling one's soul for for a piece of silver.

"What do you need this troublesome sovereignty for? We will take care of your needs - in the meantime, you can play (really act as a clown) at being dissidents for Justice and Freedom."

Posted by: fyi | Apr 19 2021 13:34 utc | 136

the idea of a new war as a cover for long held strategic Zionist goals was outlined by American academic Stephen J Sneigosky in a 2003 scholarly article in the Swiss/ English journal Zeit Fragen , or Current Concerns, now sadly disappeared from their extensive archives but republished elsewhere, War in Iraq: Conceived in Israel


War and Expulsion

"To understand why Israeli leaders would want a Middle East war, it is first necessary to take a brief look at the history of the Zionist movement and its goals. Despite public rhetoric to the contrary, the idea of expelling (or, in the accepted euphemism, "transferring") the indigenous Palestinian population was an integral part of the Zionist effort to found a Jewish national state in Palestine. Historian Tom Segev writes:

"The idea of transfer had accompanied the Zionist movement from its very beginnings, first appearing in Theodore Herzl's diary. In practice, the Zionists began executing a mini-transfer from the time they began purchasing the land and evacuating the Arab tenants.... "Disappearing" the Arabs lay at the heart of the Zionist dream, and was also a necessary condition of its existence.... With few exceptions, none of the Zionists disputed the desirability of forced transfer-or its morality.

However, Segev continues, the Zionist leaders learned not to publicly proclaim their plan of mass expulsion because "this would cause the Zionists to lose the world's sympathy."[3]

The key was to find an opportune time to initiate the expulsion so it would not incur the world's condemnation. In the late 1930s, David Ben-Gurion wrote: "What is inconceivable in normal times is possible in revolutionary times; and if at this time the opportunity is missed and what is possible in such great hours is not carried out-a whole world is lost."[4] The "revolutionary times" would come with the first Arab-Israeli war in 1948, when the Zionists were able to expel 750,000 Palestinians (more than 80 percent of the indigenous population), and thus achieve an overwhelmingly Jewish state, though its area did not include the entirety of Palestine, or the "Land of Israel," which Zionist leaders thought necessary for a viable state.

The opportunity to grab additional land occurred as a result of the 1967 war; however, that occupation brought with it the problem of a large Palestinian population. By that time world opinion was totally opposed to forced population transfers, the idea of expulsion resurfaced equating such a policy with the unspeakable horror of Nazism. The landmark Fourth Geneva Convention, ratified in 1949, had "unequivocally prohibited deportation" of civilians under occupation.[5] Since the 1967 war, the major question in Israeli politics has been: What to do with that territory and its Palestinian population?

It was during the 1980s, with the coming to power of the right-wing Likud government, that the idea of expulsion resurfaced publicly. And this time it was directly tied to a larger war, with destabilization of the Middle East seen as a precondition for Palestinian expulsion. Such a proposal, including removal of the Palestinian population, was outlined in an article by Oded Yinon, titled "A Strategy for Israel in the 1980s," appearing in the World Zionist Organization's periodical Kivunim in February 1982. Yinon had been attached to the Israeli Foreign Ministry and his article undoubtedly reflected high-level thinking in the Israeli military and intelligence establishment. The article called for Israel to bring about the dissolution and fragmentation of the Arab states into a mosaic of ethnic groupings. Thinking along those lines, Ariel Sharon stated on March 24, 1988, that if the Palestinian uprising continued, Israel would have to make war on her Arab neighbors. The war, he stated, would provide "the circumstances" for the removal of the entire Palestinian population from the West Bank and Gaza and even from inside Israel proper.[5]

Israeli foreign policy expert Yehoshafat Harkabi critiqued the war/expulsion scenario-referring to "Israeli intentions to impose a Pax Israelica on the Middle East, to dominate the Arab countries and treat them harshly"-in his very significant work, Israel's Fateful Hour, published in 1988. Writing from a realist perspective, Harkabi concluded that Israel did not have the power to achieve that goal, given the strength of the Arab states, the large Palestinian population involved, and the vehement opposition of world opinion. He hoped that "the failed Israeli attempt to impose a new order in the weakest Arab state-Lebanon-will disabuse people of similar ambitions in other territories."[6] Left unconsidered by Harkabi was the possibility that the United States would act as Israel's proxy to achieve the overall goal."

I believe current instability and possible wars could serve a a cover for this long held mainstream Zionist genocidal objective while the public was distracted and the MSM was conveniently looking the other way, as usual. Remember the simultaneous Israeli- Uk - French Suez invasion at the same time of the spontaneous Hungarian Uprising."

Revolutionary times indeed.

I commend Sneigosky's article in full.

Posted by: Paul | Apr 19 2021 15:24 utc | 137

To add a bit of color to b's fine reporting, it's been reported in the Chinese press that when John kerry and gang arrived in shanghai, they were being whisked off to their hotel in a leased crappy minibus. That and 20 minutes video conference afterwards. Talk about being anchoraged!

Posted by: cindy6 | Apr 19 2021 18:14 utc | 138

I hope the reports are true :)

It was probably one of the "large" minibuses and not a proper minivan which are the cutest ones.

(Kerry is between 10 and 13 cm taller than me according to different places on the internet but I'm confident I'm wider than him and imo those minivans are still cool no matter how much "yoga" and head injuries they demand, I would be too big to drive one though lol :P)

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 21 2021 4:40 utc | 139

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