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March 19, 2021

U.S. Aggressiveness Follow Up

The 'western' media reporting of the spat between Biden and Putin is typically bad.

The Guardian @guardian - 18:15 UTC · Mar 18, 2021

'Takes one to know one': Putin-Biden spat escalates over 'killer' accusation

That was not what Putin had said:

Ivan Pentchoukov @IvanPentchoukov - 16:56 UTC · Mar 19, 2021

Can't believe how many outlets are running with the same totally false translation of what Putin said.

The idiom Putin used is much closer to "the names you call others is what you should be called."

The official Kremlin transcript agrees with Ivan's formulation:

[D]ifficult, dramatic, and bloody events abound in the history of every nation and every state. But when we evaluate other people, or even other states and nations, we are always facing a mirror, we always see ourselves in the reflection, because we project our inner selves onto the other person.

You know, I remember when we were children and played in the yard, we had arguments occasionally and we used to say: whatever you call me is what you are called yourself. This is no coincidence or just a kids’ saying or joke. It has a very deep psychological undercurrent. We always see ourselves in another person and think that he or she is just like us, and evaluate the other person’s actions based on our own outlook on life.

There is an additional passage of interest which sets out rules for future talks that I have not seen reported in 'western' media:

I know that the United States and its leaders are determined to maintain certain relations with us, but on matters that are of interest to the United States and on its terms. Even though they believe we are just like them, we are different. We have a different genetic, cultural and moral code. But we know how to uphold our interests. We will work with the United States, but in the areas that we are interested in and on terms that we believe are beneficial to us. They will have to reckon with it despite their attempts to stop our development, despite the sanctions and insults. They will have to reckon with this.

We, with our national interests in mind, will promote our relations with all countries, including the United States.

Secretary of State Blinken's meeting with the Chinese foreign minister in a shabby Alaskan hotel was another diplomatic train wreck:

“The alternative to a rules-based order is a world in which might makes right and winner takes all and that would be a far more violent and unstable world,” Blinken said.

The 'rules based order' means 'do what we say' and is of course unacceptable. Here is how the Chinese replied:

What China and the international community follow or uphold is the United Nations-centered international system and the international order underpinned by international law, not what is advocated by a small number of countries of the so-called “rules-based” international order.

and

I don’t think the overwhelming majority of countries in the world would recognize that the universal values advocated by the United States or that the opinion of the United States could represent international public opinion, and those countries would not recognize that the rules made by a small number of people would serve as the basis for the international order.

When Yang was chided by Blinken for making a too long opening statement in response to Blinken's accusations Yang replied:

The Chinese side felt compelled to make this speech because of the tone of the U.S. side.

Well, isn’t this the intention of United States, judging from what – or the way that you have made your opening remarks, that it wants to speak to China in a condescending way from a position of strength?

So was this carefully all planned and was it carefully orchestrated with all the preparations in place? Is that the way that you had hoped to conduct this dialogue?

Well, I think we thought too well of the United States. We thought that the U.S. side will follow the necessary diplomatic protocols. So for China it was necessary that we made our position clear.

So let me say here that, in front of the Chinese side, the United States does not have the qualification to say that it wants to speak to China from a position of strength. The U.S. side was not even qualified to say such things even 20 years or 30 years back, because this is not the way to deal with the Chinese people. If the United States wants to deal properly with the Chinese side, then let’s follow the necessary protocols and do things the right way.

And this which was apparently left out of State Departments transcript:

History will prove that if you use cutthroat competition to suppress China you will be the one to suffer in the end.

The attempted U.S. assault was a home run for the Chinese side:

Many netizens on China’s social media said Chinese officials were doing a good job in Alaska, and that the U.S. side lacked sincerity.

Some even characterized the talks as a “Hongmen Banquet”, referring to an event that took place 2,000 years ago where a rebel leader invited another to a feast with the intention of murdering him.

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Told you, [[[mofo]]] have succeeded in making Chinese the pariah of 21C.

Chinese old lady floored her white trash attacker.

This is just the latest case of escalating violence against Han , especially in [[[fiveliars]]] land,.

Tip of an iceberg.

https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/03/17/elderly-asian-woman-beats-up-man-attacking-her-in-san-francisco/

mofo = CIA/MI6/AXIO.

Posted by: denk | Mar 20 2021 7:26 utc | 101

Dear steven t johnson,
outta curiosity: do I understand correctly that as a True Woke Marxist you are completely unaware of the concept of 'idiomatic expression'? Or only when it's a convenient excuse for discharging endless streams of woke bullshit? I suspect it's the latter; surely you must understand what "nothing to lose but their chains" means?

https://spbformat.ru/news/vladimir-putin-podnyal-temu-geneticheskogo-koda/

Excerpts, my translation:
"[Mr Putin, April 28 2020:]...This is not our genetic code. Because we have learned something completely different from our ancestors. Russia has been living 1000 years with the values of mutual help and solidarity. And today they are the basis of our statehood."
[...]
"We'll remind you that this is not the first time the theme of unique genetic code sounds from the lips of our politicians. [...] Vyachislav Makarov reminds us that the Leningraders - Petersburgers - are the carriers of the unique "blockade-survival" genetic code. And the whole population of the country carries the genetic code of the "generation of warriors, heroes, victors". As the descendants of the people who gave us the victory in the Great Patriotic War..." etc. etc. etc.

Posted by: Mao Cheng Ji | Mar 20 2021 8:52 utc | 102

Yeah, Right #46

Because it looks like they have decided they have had a gut-full of US "exceptionalism" and are quite determined to say so. To anyone, but especially to the Americans.

Going to be a lot of very confused people at Foggy Bottom. They may never have experienced this degree of contempt before.


Thank you, that is my assessment as well. The USA and its five liars are going to get it this way for some time to come and there will be no going back on it. They have no good graces to show, they are arrogant beyond redemption, they have no intermediary to call on as many of the more sober western nations are not silly enough to stand in for them. This is not diplomacy but rather idiocy on an international scale. Sad days, and hard times are coming.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 20 2021 10:08 utc | 103

Hands up everyone who is looking forward to the next instalment of Patrick Armstrong's Russia SitRep?

I know I am.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Mar 20 2021 10:28 utc | 104

steven t. johnson @ 15

"Putin showed himself to be personally contemptible."

Name calling? Well I suppose turnabout is fair play. Your verbose pedantic post reveals someone who has been educated beyond his capacity.

Posted by: LM | Mar 20 2021 12:28 utc | 105

Contemptible


steven t. johnson @ 15

"Putin showed himself to be personally contemptible."


"You know, I remember when we were children and played in the yard, we had arguments occasionally and we used to say: whatever you call me is what you are called yourself. This is no coincidence or just a kids’ saying or joke. It has a very deep psychological undercurrent."
Vladimir. P. 18th march 2021


Thanks Steven
... to make us die laughing!

Posted by: Bernard F. | Mar 20 2021 12:58 utc | 106

@Bernard F. | Mar 20 2021 12:58 utc | 106

+100 Bulls Eye! :-)

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 20 2021 13:03 utc | 107

Nothing contemptible with Hard Facts


With regard to the US establishment, the ruling class –[...] – their mindset was formed in rather challenging circumstances which we are all aware of.

After all, the colonisation of the American continent by the Europeans went hand-in-hand with the extermination of the local people, the genocide, as they say today, outright genocide of the Indian tribes followed by a very tough, long and difficult period of slavery, a very cruel period.
[...] To this day, African Americans face injustice and even extermination.

[...] After all, the United States is the only country to have used nuclear weapons, mind you, against a non-nuclear state – Japan, in Hiroshima and Nagasaki at the end of WW II. There was absolutely no military need for the bombing. It was nothing but the extermination of civilians.

[...] Even though they believe we are just like them, we are different. We have a different genetic, cultural and moral code.

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/65172

Posted by: Bernard F. | Mar 20 2021 13:15 utc | 108

@ Bernard F (106)

Please remember rule 1, Do not feed the trolls.

Posted by: MarkU | Mar 20 2021 13:24 utc | 109

It is a bare-faced lie to claim that science is woke. One of the biggest arguments against the woke is that they actively reject science, finding spiritual causes in white souls for racism and babbling about structural racism without ever naming the parts, much less how they are arranged. (They don't seem to even know that "structure" is the arrangement of parts!) The woke don't even care about the natural science, genetics included. They deny that religion is superstition and can only recognize bigotry by a white skin. They never attribute bigotry to religion and even the unpopular ones like Scientology are denied to be religions and only seen as scams, by a double standard.

Mao Cheng Ji is doubly stupid, for citing the idiomatic meanings. Yes, "genetic code" has an idiomatic meaning, trying to invoke "science" as an idiomatic expression for race, in the broader sense of a people of common descent with common nature. The stupidity is doubled by the moronic invocation of the victory in WWII. That was not a triumph of the Russian soul/people/"race"/spiritual state, but the victory of the Soviet peoples and the socialist system. Putin's genetic code is the code of the White emigres, of the Vlasovs, of first and foremost, Yeltsin. Yeltsin was not the stuff that crushed the fascists, Yeltsin was the traitor who crushed the peoples of the Soviet Union, plunged most of them into poverty to make a few rich, who didn't fight but surrendered his country. That's Putin's DNA, if you insist on using stupid idioms. It is Putin who sat on his hands when the fascists crossed the Dniepr! It is a dirty joke to whine about grammar and idiom when lying on such a grand scale, to pretend the Putins are the heirs of victors, when they are the disloyal sons.

Dr. George Oprisko writes " Russia is a classical construct with more than 1000 years of history and culture. These are part and parcel of what Russia is and who her people are....

The USA on the other hand, has never coalesced into a cultural entity.... Most of US culture was created by advertizers during the post WWII period..... The rock & roll generation... hippies.... etc.

A state based upon a covenant between itself and God... mediated by orthodox christianity... is totally foreign to Steve and most US denizens..."

This confirms every word I said about the folly of treating a state as if it were a person, and highlights the connection to superstition and bigotry far better than I did. Oprisko may be so ignorant as to be completely unaware of the religiosity of huge stretches of the population, being a superficial prude who can't see further than indignation at racy TV and movies. There is a longstanding heritage of religion, sincerely felt (one can't really ever say, thought, not with religion,) through US history and across this country today. The secularism that Oprisko hates is strictly a personal prejudice, not a fact. There is also the gruesome dishonesty, for the construct Russia is the rampaging Cossack, the murderous Black Hundred, the knout, worship of the Tsar, oppressor of the Old Believers. Oprisko would have women adoring the latest Rasputin!

Posted by: steven t johnson | Mar 20 2021 14:30 utc | 110

I read the transcript and watched the video of Alaskan meeting. The first Chinese diplomat was either acting or was genuinely triggered. After speaking at length, he didn’t bother putting his mask back on. The follow up was pointed with comments including “lectures and verbose speeches”, and “confident speech” aimed at the Chinese side. Chinese need to work on their poker face. The editorials by usually super vehement global times were also oddly muted and conciliatory. This may in fact have been a performance for non-diplomatic audiences. As GT assures us, business must go on!

On the American side, the NSA opened with a bizarre line about “a story about America’s successes” since Biden. WTF? Did he just reset the pre-Biden 200+ history? A strangely phrased line. Haven’t fully parsed it yet.

I was also surprised to read Putin express a racist (in neutral sense) pride of Russian genes. And this soul business reminded me of a 70s movie with Omar Sharif and Julie Andrews (directed by Andrews). The Tamarind Seed. It’s on YouTube and in the scene in the early part of the film where Sharif (who is a high level KGB attaché in Paris) is trying to seduce Andrews (who works for someone high up in home office) are in a museum and there is a mythical story of a tamarind seed related. This leads immediately to a friendly argument about materialism and belief. The Russian character asks Andrews: Do you believe I have a soul? When she replies in the affirmative, he laughs and expresses his astonishment at her naïveté. So the Putin has no soul comment is really code for “you’re still a god-less commie” — remember, VK will tell us none of have a soul — and Putin says “We understand each other”, as in Da.

Posted by: Ruski-DNA | Mar 20 2021 14:35 utc | 111

Just to completely clarify; the well known English phrase "Takes one to know one" means "We are the same". Putin's statement "What you call me is what you are" means "We are different". The guardian version is not merely a gross misrepresentation, it is the complete opposite, as they know perfectly well.

Posted by: Tim Glover | Mar 20 2021 14:39 utc | 112

Had a Zoom meetup with my oldest friends, all people I have known for over sixty years. Except the younger ones who I knew before they were born. All capital D Democrats.

Summary. Joe Biden is amazingly fit and would be the greatest President ever, except that honorific still goes to Obama. Putin is the Devil. Joe told him off good. The Alaska summit was a huge success, Tony Blinken is a genius. The Vaccine is Eternal Life. We have been blessed with The Vaccine by dear Uncle Joe.

This is typical. This is mainstream America, at least on the blue side.

Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 20 2021 14:40 utc | 113

And I forgot. All the best wishes to All my Hamvatanaan, including even the tokhme Tazi and Tokhme Mogul (we’re inclusive, us Iranians), on this NoeRooz! It has been 1400 years since we lost Our Center but gained a new religion. Inshallah, this new century will experience a return of Iranian-Iranians at the helm of a once great civilization. We’re still running on the fumes of that civilization, but enemies of Iran are many and all livid at the fact that “Persia” still exists.

Remember that you are Iranian, and your land is Iran Shahr, and your center is Ahura-Mazda (who some call in Arabic translation as Al-Aziz Al-Hakim) and Pardis was first promised to you by your Prophet, and then confirmed by the Gentile Prophet, using the very same word, to make the connection clear.

NoeRoozeh Hameh Shaad va Pirooz!

Posted by: Ruski-DNA | Mar 20 2021 14:45 utc | 114

"In the West, and especially the USA, today, we observe an inability to imagine, understand, come to terms with or tolerate difference."
This is the lede to Patrick Armstrong's latest piece for Strategic Culture. Ironically, those who place themselves in the vanguard of the contemporary march of superficial "diversity" also suffer from this inability.

Posted by: robjira | Mar 20 2021 15:18 utc | 115

Smith 69#

Good from you!

Another very good chinese movie is "Hero" ,which subject is a conspiration to kill the founder of the Qin dynasty.The conspirators are from the overridden kingdom of Zhao.I suppose Chu and Zhao are one and the same.Interestingly the emperor-to-be makes a point about having nineteen different words for "sword" and is of the opinion that to build an empire,it is important to unify speech and writing so that all his subjects can communicate and of course understand the emperor's laws.This movie highlights the importance of calligraphy and I keep watching it,there are so many levels in it.More generally it is a good mental exercise to watch chinese movies,because one learns a lot about chinese mindset,and sometimes one stumbles on what seem to be incongruities,but digging deeper,and watching the same over and over again,at the end one understands.


On thread's topic:
Nothing very new here concerning absence of diplomacy in the USA.They think they rule the entire world by soft-power,bullying and secret operation.Under Obama I believe they expropriated the russian consulate in Frisco,under Trump they refused access to the Venezuelan ambassador to his own embassy.Iran's prime minister was bridled in his movements in UN building perimeter.This is all very contrary to the Vienna Convention,which rules diplomatical traffic.A majority of american ambassadors are rich businessmen and women,who have not the slightest idea what diplomacy is about.
Diplomacy starts with showing respect for the person who represents the inhabitants of another country,whatever the political slate of that country is.Sanctions are disrespect,in no way do they carry another message than'Fuck you'.
Those Blinkens and Bidens may think they can bully chinese diplomats into submission by inviting them to a derelict hotel and thrashing them with the words that MSM keep repeating to its readers and viewers.Sometimes I feel that those government people have been
brainwashed by some MKultra program themselves

Posted by: willie | Mar 20 2021 15:31 utc | 116

Having gained their positions of power through illegal means, fraud, blackmail etc., and without course to be held legally accountable by a equally corrupted judicial system and "intelligence" network , the governing powers in the USA have developed a degree of arrogance which is clear and obvious, yet holds no mayor influence, beyond their own borders.
The emperor has no clothes..

Russian, the country to first put a man in space, and Chinese governments have recently made an agreement towards a lunar space project. People, persons, on the moon and a lunar station.

Posted by: Fíréan | Mar 20 2021 16:11 utc | 117

@113 oldhippie

I'm not holding my breath either, re the understanding of the US (and most other western nations') public. When change does come, I believe it will be externally imposed, in the form of an undeniable change in the correlation of forces internationally. Unfortunately, this sometimes means war, but let's hope it won't be in that form.

One has to say however, that war does concentrate the mind in a way few other things do. For example, the threat of the Vietnam war reaching into US households certainly sped things up in the minds of the public in that instance. It was that war, and its threat to me and mine personally, that made me permanently skeptical of every word spewed out by the government and its media stenographers.

As debsisdead says @88, of course the brunt of that catastrophe was borne by the Indochinese, but it sure delivered the (temporary) knock out punch to the anti-communist consensus of the day in the imperialist heartland.

Now that consensus seems to be back in the form of Putin (and Xi) demonization. In my view, it will take another sharp form of external rebuke to set it back.

Posted by: expat | Mar 20 2021 16:29 utc | 118

‘Oh what a tangled web we weave
When first we practice to deceive,'

quote from "Marmion: A Tale of Flodden Field" by Sir Walter Scott

The web is collapsing all around from the weight of so much embedded lies and deceit, and for so long, that even the spiders can't walk its ways without getting caught out, stripped up. They will self destruct, already psychotic will take many down with them, before coming clean and giving up their ways.

Posted by: Fíréan | Mar 20 2021 16:39 utc | 119

"Mao Cheng Ji is doubly stupid, for citing the idiomatic meanings."

steven t johnson is quarterly stupid for jumping, without skipping a beat, from 'Putin is a racists!' woke-bottery, to analyzing (apparently in all seriousness!) rhetorical flourish about national values and great sacrifices and victories of days gone by.

Oh well.

Posted by: Mao Cheng Ji | Mar 20 2021 16:54 utc | 120

Posted by: Tom | Mar 20 2021 6:00 utc | 99

...Oh yea, have they found that Russian sub in the eastern Mediterranean yet? Day six I think. It's holding up a NATO exercise I believe. This is causing snickering in the Kremlin that can be heard all the way to the Sofiyskaya Embankmant and great embarrassment in Norfolk West Virginia.

I read this elsewhere and thought about the implication. Is NATO's domination of the Mediterranean so absolute that losing track of a single enemy submarine is newsworthy? Aren't submarines designed for stealth?

Talk about misplaced triumphalism.

Posted by: robin | Mar 20 2021 16:56 utc | 121

Mr. Ruski-DNA

Norouz Mobarak.

Iran is not just a Persian country, living off the fumes of the Eran-Shahr and the echoes of the divine songs of Zartosht the Pure.

Iran is an Arab country, a Turkic country, a Zoroastrian country, Christian country, a Sunni country, a Shia country, a Yazidi country, a Kurdish country, a Baluchi country etc.

I think the Persianate civilization is present in Turkey, as well as in Bokhara, as well as in Lucknow. This civilization is centered around din, just like Eran-shahr was, but now includes love for the Holy Family of the Prophet as well as many Turkic elements. It no longer living off fumes of an extinct civilization.

It is also clear to me that Iran is rapidly changing. And there are very many elements of the European culture incorporated into the fabric of that culture. Not only is she not the same country as she was at 1900, she is very different than she was in 2000. The everyday life in Sanadaj is nothing like 1970s, the municipality has modeled its programme after what any Frenchman from a provincial town will recognise.

I also feel deeply sorry for Afghanistan, they need all the elements of the Neo-Persianate culture and civilization of Iran. But I do not see any path for them to that destination.

Posted by: Fyi | Mar 20 2021 16:57 utc | 122

The most peculiar aspect of Biden's outburst is its timing.
If there was one moment in time when it would be ill advised for even the most brass necked, cynical American exceptionalist not to restrain himself from accusing anyone of murder, it would have to be that moment in which the bulkiest object in the "Out" tray on the Presidential desk happened to be a crude coffin like box containing the butchered remains of the Washington Post journalist and long established CIA asset Adnan Khashoggi.
Now there was the victim of a killer, the Crown Prince, acting with the permission of the US government and in the spirit of the Deep State which put Joe Biden in office.
Joe was perhaps thinking of Khashoggi-a beltway denizen he must have run into in one of the cocktail parties or brothels on the circuit- when he murmured admiringly, to himself, blissfully unaware of the presence of George Stephanopolous- one of the grande horizontales of American culture- and the TV camera, "That guy, whatsisname, the one from whatsitcalled, Russia, is a killer."
Though of course he's not in Obama's league.

Posted by: bevin | Mar 20 2021 16:58 utc | 123

@ Kapusta | Mar 20 2021 2:37 utc | 89

thanks! you ask a good question.. why wasn't the iraqi war, or the libya war and etc. etc. more of a catalyst for the demise of the usa, then having trump as president?? i think this has to do with usa culture which is pretty insulated and self contained within its own borders... what happens outside its borders is mostly of no interest to the people that live in the usa... that is what it has seemed to me.. i know it is arrogant to say this and especially here in the crowd at moa where there are many americans who don't fall into this stereotype... but i do believe it is mostly the case... how else does one explain it?? or how does one explain the subservience to israel, another example that stirs a lot of conversation??? what explains so much of this?? i think until the people of the usa have a bomb land on them from a different country, all the bombs, drone attacks and etc. etc. will remain a far away story that doesn't interest them.. only when it comes home to them on their own home will they wake up and see how important it is for them to engage as others try to do on the world stage, instead of copping these exceptional attitudes we hear from the lips of their political leaders.... well, i better stop my rant now, lol!

Posted by: james | Mar 20 2021 17:05 utc | 124

james | Mar 20 2021 17:05 utc | 124

" but i do believe it is mostly the case... how else does one explain it?? "

The answer may be outside of and beyond your present belief system, and therefore if it were to be explained you would not believe ( and hence you hadn't already thought of it for yourself). And so is same for the people of whom you speak.

Posted by: Fíréan | Mar 20 2021 17:28 utc | 125

White House and the Biden regime instead of sending Iran and Iranians New year’s Norooz greetings, they should stop their coroc tears and allow Iranians kids with cancer buy medications, Iranians in Iran and abroad including Iranian Americans have had enough of American regime double talk.

Posted by: Kosshy | Mar 20 2021 17:58 utc | 126

It's funny that US officials caught on camera trying to kick press out from the US-China meeting in Alaska, while Chinese diplomats stood up for the media asking them to stay.


Here are some videos captured the meeting between China-US in Alaska which MSM probably won't show to their audience.

Posted by: lulu | Mar 20 2021 18:00 utc | 127

Posted by: Ruski-DNA | Mar 20 2021 14:35 utc | 111

You say you are Iranian but you basically have problem with both Chines and Russians, wondering why this mentality is similar with groups that in opposition to Iranian government, they seek and hope for support and help from western regimes.
These type they don’t like Putin and Xi since they believe Iranian government struggle for her sovereignty and independence only can survive as long as it gets support from China and Russia. But this mentality is totally wrong, as wrong as those who believe Iranians like prefer a relation with west more than Iran’s sovereignty and independence. True that Russia and China are help but Iran’s revolution up to late 2015 stood and survived without their political or economic help. IMO they find an spine and a political eduction when they saw Iran can stand to most politically powerful western hyenas.

Posted by: Kooshy | Mar 20 2021 18:16 utc | 128

Ha, but the weather is cold, the hotel is shoddy, and the Chinese delegate had to have instant noodle for lunch - that sounds like a very low budget “Hongmen Banquet” by the Americans. Maybe they are still waiting for their 1.9 trillion stimulus check?

Posted by: d dan | Mar 20 2021 2:12 utc | 86
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Nah, I think it was rather a 下马威 (Xia Ma Wei) to make Chinese diplomats to "know their place", i.e. US was in the position of power/strength and teaching Chinese a lesson to be obedient/submissive to the master.

Hence Yang Jiechi responded with "The US has no qualification to speak to China from a position of strength”, I guess.

Posted by: lulu | Mar 20 2021 18:19 utc | 129

@Posted by: Ruski-DNA | Mar 20 2021 14:35 utc | 111

So the Putin has no soul comment is really code for “you’re still a god-less commie” — remember, VK will tell us none of have a soul — and Putin says “We understand each other”,

So, Ruski, you are of the opinion that Biden is sophisticated enough to transmit code messages? Are you of the opinion also that Biden's intended audience are sophisticated enough to catch such code messages? LOL! I'm of the opinion that you haven't lived here in the USA long enough to grasp the social norms :-)

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Mar 20 2021 18:20 utc | 130

Found this. It seems to me it is still correct.

"He knows nothing; and he thinks he knows everything. That points clearly to a political career.” - George Bernard Shaw,

Posted by: Stonebird | Mar 20 2021 18:24 utc | 131

@ Fíréan | Mar 20 2021 17:28 utc | 125... thanks... do you have any particular insights that you'd like to share on the matter??

Posted by: james | Mar 20 2021 18:38 utc | 132

Nawruz in Xinjiang. It is on March 21st.

Happy Iranian new year!

Posted by: lulu | Mar 20 2021 18:39 utc | 133

Mr. Kooshy.

The German government had the decency and propriety of not wishing a Merry Christmas for the English people in 2941, when England was fighting alone.

Posted by: Fyi | Mar 20 2021 18:39 utc | 134

Bruce Lee Marvin Gay@49 is silly enough to think the CIA is anti-racist, or at least pro-science enough, not to spout simple-minded Putinesque drivel about genetic code. The CIA is backwards, scientifically, politically, socially, economically and, yes, morally. The glorification of the CIA as an organization committed to the truth about genetics is deplorable.

Posted by: steven twat on spot johnson | Mar 20 2021 0:14 utc | 70

I said nothing of the kind. This is a case in point. But you didn't deny it.

Posted by: Bruce Lee Marvin Gay | Mar 20 2021 19:01 utc | 135

The question nobody is asking
which everyone should be asking
is:

Behind this veil and skein of
apparent acrimony between the
Chinese and Zionist-American
sides

What deals were actually struck?
What secret accords and understandings
were arrived at beyond the eyes of
the common people ?

While we marvel at the spectacle
of two superpowers bickering
what really went on
behind the scenes?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 20 2021 19:04 utc | 136

18 years ago on this day,US, UK & their allies used the lie of WMD to invade Iraq, which has caused 1 million death and total destruction of the country.

Now they are pushing the "China genociding Uyghurs" lies to frame the minds of Americans and people in the West and around the global to prepare a hot war against China.

Posted by: lulu | Mar 20 2021 19:06 utc | 137

Posted by: lulu | Mar 20 2021 19:06 utc | 136



Now they are pushing the "China genociding Uyghurs" lies to frame the minds of Americans and people in the West and around the global to prepare a hot war against China.

There is no "Hot War" in preparation against China, this is simply procedural posturing in the absence of any other means of relating to the Chinese civilisation.

The Zio-American empire is well aware this would mean a nuclear annihilation or at the least a re-shuffling of the global order against their interests.

The US has developed no means of relating to civilisational challenges other than violence, so it is merely cycling through the motions it knows of but with an understanding that it cannot take them to their logical conclusion.

It's all foreplay and nothing more ...

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 20 2021 19:19 utc | 138

@ 83 kooshy... thanks... i will look for that food you mention... sounds delicious... i am a bit of a food addict! ". But traditional Iranian New Year food which is eaten at equinox regardless of time is green herb rice with fish which is "Sabzie Polo with Mahi"

@ 136 lulu... here is my quote from a few days ago.... you are right to draw attention to this..

"msm quote from the opening meeting on thursday in alaska - "Blinken had initially said the US intends to defend the "rules-based order" without which there would be a "much more violent world" .... yeah, like going to war in iraq was via this ''rules-based order" and of course there has been a lot less violence in iraq.... what kind of jokers say this shit??

Posted by: james | Mar 19 2021 4:29 utc | 76"

Posted by: james | Mar 20 2021 19:24 utc | 139

“The alternative to a rules-based order is a world in which might makes right and winner takes all and that would be a far more violent and unstable world,” Blinken said.

Coming from the Empire this is not an explanation but rather a threat.

Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 20 2021 19:30 utc | 140

@ 139 william gruff... i never thought of it like that, but i think you are right to characterize it that way... the language of a bully is on regular display thanks the exceptional nation... i have gotten so used to it, i overlook this feature..

Posted by: james | Mar 20 2021 19:38 utc | 141

Putin fell into a trap. He should have not said a damn thing after Biden spouted off about him being a killer. The western MSM on both sides of the Pond are now running with the incorrect translation and narrative that Putin admitted to being a killer. The western MSM is now also claiming that Putin's wishing Biden good health means he's threatening to poison him.

Putin should have heeded Mark Twain's wise words:

"Don't wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it."

Posted by: Boogity | Mar 20 2021 19:42 utc | 142

Maybe it's due to decades of watching sitcoms from tv-dinner-time to beddy-bye-time, but, for an alarmingly large number of Americans, any verbal exchange involving conflicting ideas – from whose favorite football team is superior to which debating presidential candidate sounds the most qualified to lead us through the ozone, more points are awarded for quickness and curtness of a "Zinger" than for depth of thought. Granted, "Takes one to know one!" is not "Where's the Beef?" quality, but it doesn't really matter. All They and their sycophant MSM social engineers are attempting to convey here is that, unlike Trump, Bygone doesn't love the bad guys and is willin'-n-able to stand up to them. Remember: Our lad is not a fancy-pants philosopher. He is Joe Blow, who jokes with the conductor when he rides the commuter train to work, the guy steel-workers are most likely to think would be fun to crack come-backs with over beers. Yer mother wears combat boots, Pooty-pants! Oh! And don't forget: he has a dawg, a family doggie. Ol' Bone Drone, Jill and I call him... God. I need drugs....

Posted by: defaultcitizen | Mar 20 2021 19:47 utc | 143


Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 20 2021 19:04 utc | 135

What deals were actually struck?
What secret accords and understandings
were arrived at beyond the eyes of
the common people ?

While we marvel at the spectacle
of two superpowers bickering
what really went on
behind the scenes?

Nothing happened, not because we shouldn't know, but because the "Governments" no longer control the reins of power. At least in the West. The Bankers/billionaires and other power brokers were apparently not there. The "behind the scenes" deals could have revolved around the 5G Huawei, rare earths or other visible political problems such as Hong Kong or Taiwan, but even if they did, the root problem is financial.

The US is broke and is trying to kill the BRI. The Chinese do not WANT a solution that would give the US back it's dollar-highs. All they have to do is wait. Biding their time. Patience is a virtue which the US is singularily lacking. The Chinese have it ingrained in their culture.

There are various ways in which the US can try to disrupt the financial stability of China, but they do not "depend" on Blinken, Winken and Noddy..

Posted by: Stonebird | Mar 20 2021 20:03 utc | 144

The western media was captured many years ago and serves only its propaganda business model.
America is number one instigator and developer of conflict across the entire planet and is increasingly unworthy of anyones trust or respect.

Posted by: Carver | Mar 20 2021 20:09 utc | 145

The US media has degenerated into a slave to the propaganda business model that it has chosen to adopt.
The US is the Number One instigator and manipulator of conflict across the planet and is unworthy of anyones trust or respect. The American way defines all that is devious and corrupt.
None of this is new. There was some disruption for a few years recently, but now that all obstacles are permanently neutered the destruction of the future for personal gain can get back into top gear once again.

Posted by: Carver | Mar 20 2021 20:24 utc | 146

Arch BUngle @135--

I linked to this late last night, and it's been overlooked. Take time to read as its dense with meaning and between the lines info. Then there's this analysis that differs in subtle ways from the first, particularly in pointing out the great importance of the public part of the dialogue, of which I highlight this part:

"First, it was very timely and vivid. The Chinese side seized on the opportunity when the media was still there to talk about a wide range of issues from China-US engagement to anti-epidemic efforts, from economic development to democracy and human rights, and from unilateral bu[ll]ying to the UN Charter. It was crystal clear which side was right and which side was in the wrong.

"The most confident sentence was that the Communist Party of China has the wholehearted support of 1.4 billion Chinese people. The underlying message here is that: can the US side achieve that?"

Seldom is the Outlaw US Empire slapped so soundly in public, and it very clearly lacks political unity. One area that seems immune from the geopolitics is commerce, as this article notes by providing figures hard to ignore:

"Reflecting on the important role of trade in China-US ties, bilateral trade grew by 8.8 percent year-on-year in 2020 and jumped 81.3 percent in the first two months of 2021 in stark contrast to the free fall in diplomatic relations.

"And many on both sides want to further raise those figures even as the two countries don't see each other eye-to-eye on a host of other issues. Since Biden took office, expectations have been building in Chinese and US businesses for the two to address lingering issues, including remaining tariffs and US crackdowns on Chinese businesses, and expand cooperation in areas of mutual benefit....

"Analysts said that the two countries have reasons to keep trade stable as they cannot afford a further decoupling in trade. A recent report by the US Chamber of Commerce warned that if tariffs were expanded to all trade, the US GDP could see a $190 billion loss each year by 2025 and $1 trillion in the coming decade."

The #1 Key Factor that the Outlaw US Empire can't do anything about is China's political-economy and its conduct which just finished aiming at its next set of 5-year goals as well as those till 2049. The USA has nothing like it and China knows what it does have will never be enough to keep up with China when the reality is the USA must rebuild so much of itself and figure out a way to make it competitive again--the latter requiring a complete overhaul of the political economy which at this juncture will need a revolution to accomplish. And the Chinese more than just know all that. They told off Blinken and Sullivan--"You cannot address China from a position of strength."

As with Iran and Russia, China's following the wise adage of not interrupting your opponent when it's making a mistake; so, it merely needs to stand pat, follow its own plans, and watch closely while the Outlaw US Empire continues to slide under the waves.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 20 2021 21:03 utc | 147

@141: "Putin fell into a trap. He should have not said a damn thing after Biden spouted off about him being a killer. The western MSM on both sides of the Pond are now running with the incorrect translation and narrative that Putin admitted to being a killer. The western MSM is now also claiming that Putin's wishing Biden good health means he's threatening to poison him. "

What Putin cares about is his popularity among the Russian public. And them, Russian citizens, being able to read obvious western bullshit (in translation or original) only makes it easier to achieve, I believe. So, no, it's not a trap, it's an additional opportunity.

Posted by: Mao Cheng Ji | Mar 20 2021 21:16 utc | 148

China and U.S. CP leaders meet

You have a party to vote for, Americans. Can't use that excuse any longer.

Posted by: vk | Mar 20 2021 21:32 utc | 149

vk @148

Wouldn't it be nice if the CPC starts backing the CPUSA with the kinds of resources that the US backs their regime change operations through NED and USAID? That would be a game changer.

Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 20 2021 21:57 utc | 150

William Gruff@ 149. Call it CAPAC. Works for Israel.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Mar 20 2021 22:36 utc | 151

Rather ACPAC

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Mar 20 2021 22:37 utc | 152

Less than two months, just 50 days and Biden has succeeded in making Donald Trump look good, decent even. Kudos to the Democrat Party for finding such a creature and somehow getting them elected with little visible public support. I will await the movie to find out how it was done. Another rump occupying the White House, it seems. Then there is the State Department going for a twofer with China. Invest in popcorn or seatbelt futures, rough times ahead.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Mar 20 2021 22:47 utc | 153

"Killer"?
Obama personally signed off on every drone execution target. Did Trump and Biden carry on that tradition, or has it been delegated?
https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/the-kill-chain/

Posted by: Keith McClary | Mar 20 2021 22:47 utc | 154

@Boogity | Mar 20 2021 19:42 utc | 141, and others Barflies...

Putin don't wrestle with the pig.

1) as b., and thanks for his Job, all of us must go to the original and extensive version. MSM and chats are narrative tools reducing and calibrating our souls.
2) with regards to China and Russia stay tune about context
3) be careful about "translation".

For this "WWE double smackdown" you must read here:
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/65172


To Biden as an old man, Putin just wish him Good health.


"I would say “stay healthy.” [... ]  I am saying this without irony or tongue in cheek."

But "secondly, taking a broader approach to this matter"
"to the US establishment, the ruling class – not the American people who are mostly honest, decent and sincere people who want to live in peace and friendship with us",
he said something like [you are not qualified to speak to Russia from a position of strength]


their mindset [of US ruling class] was formed in rather challenging circumstances which we are all aware of. After all, the colonisation of the American continent by the Europeans went hand-in-hand with the extermination of the local people, the genocide, as they say today, outright genocide of the Indian tribes followed by a very tough, long and difficult period of slavery, a very cruel period. All of that has been part of life in America throughout the history of the United States to this day. Otherwise, where would the Black Lives Matter movement come from? To this day, African Americans face injustice and even extermination.

The ruling class of the United States tends to address domestic and foreign policy issues based on these assumptions. After all, the United States is the only country to have used nuclear weapons, mind you, against a non-nuclear state – Japan, in Hiroshima and Nagasaki at the end of WW II. There was absolutely no military need for the bombing. It was nothing but the extermination of civilians.

I am bringing this up, because I know that the United States and its leaders are determined to maintain certain relations with us, but on matters that are of interest to the United States and on its terms. Even though they believe we are just like them, we are different. We have a different genetic, cultural and moral code. But we know how to uphold our interets .
[...]
despite their attempts to stop our development, despite the sanctions and insults. They will have to reckon with this.
We, with our national interests in mind, will promote our relations with all countries"


And he said that on March 18th, 7th anniversary of Crimea reuniting to Russia.

The next Day in Anchorage
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202103/1218870.shtml and scroll....

Yang Jiechi stated China's position at his opening remarks, saying China hopes this dialogue is sincere and honest.
Opening remarks were for 8mn (4x2mn),
But after Yang Jiechi spoke Blinken broke protocole agrement, recall journalists in order to show is strength. They came to 90mn press conference.

Strength was on chinese side:
"we thought the US would follow the necessary diplomatic protocol… In front of the Chinese side, the US side is not qualified to speak to China from a position of strength"

"the US must focus on its own human rights issues — like the Black Lives Matter movement — and not meddle in the country's internal affairs "

Posted by: Bernard F. | Mar 20 2021 22:51 utc | 155

karlof1 | Mar 20 2021 21:03 utc | 146

Thank you very much for the detailed comments and keep us updated on a number of things. Really appreciate your time and efforts.

As for your this comment,

The USA has nothing like it and China knows what it does have will never be enough to keep up with China when the reality is the USA must rebuild so much of itself and figure out a way to make it competitive again--the latter requiring a complete overhaul of the political economy which at this juncture will need a revolution to accomplish.

I agree with you though I don't think there would be anything meaningful happens in amerikkka. For a declining empire as amerikkka now, the question is only how fast the decline goes but not whether it would change course.

Posted by: LuRenJia | Mar 20 2021 23:06 utc | 156

Well, at least Biden hasn't puked on a foreign leader yet.

Posted by: Bemildred | Mar 20 2021 23:12 utc | 157

Well, at least Biden hasn't puked on a foreign leader yet.

Posted by: Bemildred | Mar 20 2021 23:13 utc | 158

Bemildred. That was Jr right? On Abe from Japan? LOL

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Mar 20 2021 23:25 utc | 159

The common misconception is that the American people accept and support the political establishment in our country.
We don't.

Posted by: Josh | Mar 20 2021 23:27 utc | 160

Canadian Cents | Mar 19 2021 20:09 utc | 20

Yes, very interesting films. Thanks for pointing them out.

Posted by: foolisholdman | Mar 20 2021 23:27 utc | 161

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Mar 20 2021 23:25 utc | 158

That was G. H. W. Bush, and the PM of Japan if I remember right. G. W. "fell" on a table as I remember. Or maybe it was the pretzel. Drinking will do that to you. That General running CENTCOM now looks like a boozer too. Has a nasty grin.

Posted by: Bemildred | Mar 20 2021 23:34 utc | 162

@Josh. Its not a common misconception if even Putin gets it. If the American people don't accept and support the political establishment, Ill pass on what non acceptance and non support looks like eh.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Mar 20 2021 23:38 utc | 163

steven t johnson | Mar 19 2021 20:32

Biden accuses Putin of being a killer. As far as I know there are allegations of the Russian state sneakily killing people (What state does not? Iceland?) Does that make Putin a killer? Certainly, the US state openly kills people in large numbers (without due process) and so does its "best ally". But, does Putin get handed a daily "Kill List", as Obama and Trump did (and as, presumably, Biden also does) to sign off on?

Posted by: foolisholdman | Mar 20 2021 23:43 utc | 164

Mr. foolisholdman

I point the United States to the enemies of the Islamic Republic of Iran and ask: "According to which principle of morality is Islamic Republic of Iran to be destroyed while US and EU-3 are to endure?"

There is never an answer.

But this is a mere quibble. We have (re-)entered another age of barbarism, which, very likely, will endure for one or two more centuries.

Posted by: Fyi | Mar 20 2021 23:55 utc | 165

ak74 | Mar 19 2021 21:31 utc | 40

Indeed! One might, for the sake of brevity, ask: which rules the US is planning to obey?

Posted by: foolisholdman | Mar 20 2021 23:57 utc | 166

Mr. Josh

You be wrong then.

Judeo-Christians prefer war to peace and quite evidently they think that there is a margin in warring against Islam.

Bread and circus has defined USA for a very long time.

Posted by: Fyi | Mar 20 2021 23:59 utc | 167

I'm slightly curious: if the USA insists that there is a "rules-based international order" then - by definition - there must exist a rule-book i.e. a compendium of those rules.

That is axiomatic, because how else would anyone know if they are a rule-breaker, or when they are in compliance with the rules.

Otherwise this isn't a "rules-based" system at all, it is merely a world based upon US dictates.

Has any reptile of the press ever asked a State Department flunky for a copy of "the rules"?

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Mar 21 2021 0:01 utc | 168

Putin's elaboration of the history and founding culture of the USA was brilliantly well done, I thought. As an academic lesson it could hardly be more concise, nor more penetrating and accurate.

He was speaking to his home constituency of Russia, but he was well aware that the whole world would listen. The so-called Global South listens to these words for the same reason we do, to know what has now been said out loud and thus can now be referenced in future discussions and in future geopolitical positions and stances.

In this sense, all of these words, and words like them, are strength to the backbone of the world. It clarifies what Russia is now prepared to say out loud, and it suggests very clearly where a lesser nation might stand, perhaps, and even solicit the support of Russia - at the UN or in diplomacy at least, if not with S-400s.

And so as these words are sent out into the real world as things that can now be "noticed", to use the judicial sense of the word, the growing world alliance coheres around these words, and the world changes in its global attitude.

Those who believe that none of this matters - and this would obviously include the ruling class of the US, described so perfectly by Putin - are in for a shock.

I can't easily demonstrate how greatly these words matter, other than to remind us how things used to look half a dozen years ago, when the US was such an ogre, and how things look now, when the US is more literally a dotard than ever before, and when the fear of challenging the US is beginning to disappear from the world, overcome by disgust.

These are dangerous times - for the US. Being described accurately is a small step from being in someone's cross-hairs.

Posted by: Grieved | Mar 21 2021 0:31 utc | 169

foolisholdman @163: "What state does not [sneakily kill people]? Iceland?"

Actually, very few countries do that. China certainly doesn't do it and I would bet Russia (the state) these days does not either. Assuming that it is normal is the very psychological projection that Putin referred to. It is frustrating, but that projection he talked about is not only a feature of the American elites. That mental disorder afflicts almost all Americans.

Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 21 2021 0:47 utc | 170

@ 113 old hippie.. thanks for sharing that..

@ 167 yeah right... the only chance of that happening is if matt lee is still working for associated press.. not sure.. he is the only guy in the press with the cojones to ask that kind of question.. here was one of the press releases from blinken and sulivan from yesterday... its another propaganda exercise basically..
Secretary Antony J. Blinken and National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan Statements to the Press

Posted by: james | Mar 21 2021 0:50 utc | 171

George Bush Sr showing his respect to the Japanese PM.

I have always hated Trump (I despise oligarchs and narcissists, and I find the shallow fakery of "reality TV" and pro wrestling repellent) but Trump's artifice, boorishness and obnoxiousness could never compare to any of the other heads of state America has had since that hayseed peanut farmer guy. It might take some time, but give perspective and distance history will be kinder to Trump than any other president in the last half century or more.

Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 21 2021 1:04 utc | 172

Biden does seem to be keeping one promise he made from the campaign, namely that "nothing will fundamentally change", he is basically continuing all of Trump's terrible foreign policies (Iran, China, Russia, Syria & Venezuela). In many ways he's being even more hawkish, issuing clownish threats to both Russia and China and even to the steadfast US vassal Germany over Nord Stream 2. One has to ask the question, just how much of Trumps foreign policy was his own. Afghanistan and Suria I think yes; Israel and Saudi Arabia maybe; China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela and Germany; I think the interagency consensus (aka the "Deep State") is setting those policies and will push it into overdrive under the Biden/Harris Regime.

With Respect to Biden, I saw that Max Keiser is already comparing Joe Biden to Borris Yeltsin as a President who presided over the near breakup of the State and the rise of a economic oligarchy.

Posted by: Kadath | Mar 21 2021 2:26 utc | 173


fyi

dave decamp at Antiwar.com has some nice coverage of the fireworks at this 'summit'

https://news.antiwar.com/2021/03/19/us-and-china-conclude-tough-alaska-talks/

"....Yang responded sharply to the US officials and criticized Washington for both domestic and foreign policy issues. “The United States uses its military force and financial hegemony to carry out long arm jurisdiction and suppress other countries,” he said. “It abuses so-called notions of national security to obstruct normal trade exchanges, and incite some countries to attack China.”

"....The US took several steps ahead of the talks that made it clear the meeting would be contentious. Blinken visited Japan and South Korea with Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin earlier this week. While meeting with his Japanese and Korean counterparts, Blinken slammed Beijing, accusing China of using “coercion and aggression” in the region. On Wednesday, the US slapped sanctions on 24 Chinese and Hong Kong officials...."

using coercion and aggression - two very definitive qualities of American Imperialism post WWII


Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 21 2021 2:46 utc | 174

@ michaelj72 | Mar 21 2021 2:46 utc | 173 who provided the Yang quote

"
“The United States uses its military force and financial hegemony to carry out long arm jurisdiction and suppress other countries,”
"

I continue to not understand why China is coy about connecting PRIVATE financial hegemony to the US when they assuredly know it is the global private finance folk that are the enemy. I don't know why they play into the meme that if the US were brought to heel then the financial hegemony would magically stop.

All Yang had to do was put the word private before financial hegemony and the message would have been much clearer and stronger message to the world struggling under the private finance jackboot, IMO

To me

rules based order = dog whistle for global private finance, property and unfettered inheritance

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 21 2021 3:19 utc | 175

Mr. michaelj72

Indeed true.

But the world has changed since 1948 when the United States stood like a collasous in the international arena.

The Hubris of initiating confrontations with Russia, and China, all the while pursuing a religious war against Islam is just breathtaking.

Posted by: Fyi | Mar 21 2021 3:30 utc | 176

Did Yang Jiechi sounds angry, you bet he is.
How'd YOU feel when a serial rapist harangue you for fabricated sexual impropriety , when they invited you to their home turf to talk biz?

gringos accusing China of genocide and cyber attacks are nuthin but classic Bandits crying robbery, a fukus speciality.
Mofo ask for it and they get it, a good smack down from master Yang !

I hope the chicoms had done a proper debugging of their rooms tho.
The [[[fiveliars]]] are full of shits.

Remember how they bugged the E Timorese room during the negotiation on Timolese oil field. ?

Remeber when CCP ordered a BOeing for prez Jiang, the chicoms discovered the jet was clawling with dozens of bugs, even in the toilets ?

The !@#$%^ are pathological snoopers,
It took the chicoms this time to pull away their fig leave and show the world, the emperor has no clothes !

Posted by: denk | Mar 21 2021 3:35 utc | 177

Mr. Kadath

There is no need to invoke the concept of deep state.

Judeo-Christians hate Islam and they especially hate Iran.

And they evidently also have a deep emotional need to dominate, for no discernible material gains, other countries.

Posted by: Fyi | Mar 21 2021 3:36 utc | 178

Mr. Denk

I suspect that in any war with China, the United States will be defeated. I think the Americans as well as the Europeans are underestimating China and the Chinese people. (As they clearly massively miscalculated in initiating their recent economic siege warfare against Iran.)

I think Americans are unaware of the realities of this year, 2021.

Posted by: Fyi | Mar 21 2021 3:40 utc | 179

fyi 178

According to their own 'think tanks', this coming five years is the last window for them to have any chance of thrashing the chicoms , beyond that, China would reach military parity at least in their own backyard, rendering an attack on China a MAD scenario.

Who knows what those ghouls in the deep state bunkers might try to preserve their hegemony .

Posted by: denk | Mar 21 2021 3:54 utc | 180

Blinken, like his boss, is a complete moron. He blew it with his patronising threatening 'rules based order' drivel because he has no expertise. Blinken has been doing this for a decade or two: Syria, Libya, Turkey, Afghanistan, Iran, and on and on. He has the form of a killer, the mind of a killer and the intentions of a mass murderer. He has proven the latter and is the type of global ambassadorial psychopath that one should meet with once and then never meet again.

The USA has lost its mind and every day that passes proves that point.

This bar deserves broader analysis of other quarters of the planet and no more references to the Guardian or NYT.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 21 2021 3:55 utc | 181

Mr. Denk

US has no time left to thrash anyone.


Posted by: Fyi | Mar 21 2021 4:07 utc | 182

denk @ 179 says: "According to their own 'think tanks', this coming five years is the last window for them to have any chance of thrashing the chicoms..."

According to their own assessment, they thought that they could trash PLA in a slaughtering house in 1950 in Korea too. Hahaha, we all know what happened.

So if their current estimate is five years window, that means they already had lost the window at least five or ten years AGO.

Posted by: d dan | Mar 21 2021 4:09 utc | 183

Posted by: ld | Mar 19 2021 22:20 utc | 48

Thanks for reminding me how much I miss Joe Bageant. I can just imagine what he'd have to say about present realities.

Posted by: farm ecologist | Mar 21 2021 4:27 utc | 184

Most Americans don’t even know that there was a recent high level parley with China, in Alaska.
If anything, the meeting was downplayed by the media; even before the ass whooping.
I’ll say this about Trump: he did not send the B team to meet China.

Posted by: Cadencecalls | Mar 21 2021 5:10 utc | 185

Posted by: willie | Mar 20 2021 15:31 utc | 116

A majority of american ambassadors are rich businessmen and women,who have not the slightest idea what diplomacy is about.

Stop Letting Rich People Buy Ambassadorships
President Biden could score a quick win by dismantling the donor-to-ambassador pipeline.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/18/opinion/biden-ambassadors-donors.html

Biden under pressure to tap fewer political ambassadors than Trump, Obama
Donors are growing impatient as Biden delays naming coveted ambassador posts.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/15/biden-political-ambassadors-476050

Posted by: Mao | Mar 21 2021 5:58 utc | 187

Patrick Armstrong Explains...
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2021/03/patrick-armstrong-explains.html

Posted by: Mao | Mar 21 2021 6:07 utc | 188

Kadath | Mar 21 2021 2:26 utc | 172
US Foreign Policy is far too important to be left up to a mere President or any elected person to dictate. The incumbent interferes at their own risk. Its the American way.

Posted by: Carver | Mar 21 2021 6:46 utc | 189

I know that the United States and its leaders are determined to maintain certain relations with us, but on matters that are of interest to the United States and on its terms. Even though they believe we are just like them, we are different. We have a different genetic, cultural and moral code. But we know how to uphold our interests. We will work with the United States, but in the areas that we are interested in and on terms that we believe are beneficial to us. They will have to reckon with it despite their attempts to stop our development, despite the sanctions and insults. They will have to reckon with this.

The author provides basic but essential definition of conflict resolution. The USians either don't understand or defy it.

Posted by: curmudgeon | Mar 21 2021 6:52 utc | 190

Alternative Math
https://vimeopro.com/ideaman/david-maddox/video/220514037

Modern Educayshun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM

Posted by: Mao | Mar 21 2021 6:58 utc | 191

James @ 170

Your link to statement by Blinken & Sullivan is propaganda as you say. It is also an expression of how deeply limited and very stupid these two are. They have no idea what just hit them.

Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 21 2021 7:25 utc | 192

@Grieved | Mar 21 2021 0:31 utc | 168
Very good analysis. Thanks.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 21 2021 7:39 utc | 193

@Kadath | Mar 21 2021 2:26 utc | 172

With Respect to Biden, I saw that Max Keiser is already comparing Joe Biden to Borris Yeltsin as a President who presided over the near breakup of the State and the rise of a economic oligarchy.

In the early 1990s, Yeltsin was able to climb on top of an armored car during an armed coup, so it made him look comparatively strong. Later he became a drunken fool, but at least to his credit he appointed Putin as his successor. Biden starts out from a position even lower than Yeltsin at his lowest and apparently already thinks Harris is the president. In his clearest moments he probably knows it is true.

In many ways, Biden is more comparable to the frail Konstantin Chernenko, who died a few months after becoming head of the USSR.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 21 2021 7:53 utc | 194

Our Dream - Sovietwave Mix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMoCM_FgLP8

Posted by: Mao | Mar 21 2021 7:56 utc | 195

This is the man that Biden calls a killer.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1373058202120511488

Such a silly thing to say, he is a killer, as all nations have violence as a "not withstanding clause" to be wielded at times of insurrection. Washington D.C. January was by no means an insurrection. Iran in 1953 was. Chechnya in the 1990's was. You deal with that with extreme prejudice. Putin a killer, legal killings yes. Putin's famous quote about wasting terrorists in the outhouse. How could I forget, Putin's terrorists are the western freedom fighters

"We are going to pursue terrorists everywhere. If they are in the airport, we will pursue them in the airport. And if we capture them in the toilet, then we will waste them in the outhouse. … The issue has been resolved once and for all”.

https://www.rt.com/russia/putin-honesty-president-magnitogorsk/


Biden is responsible for this and millions of people of the the world murdered by the US. He is a unlawful killer, a murderer, unlawful deaths, whatever you want to call it.

https://twitter.com/i/status/979049228470124545


And something to file in the "that was awfully quick" folder or should that be the "you could see that one coming", the Daily Mirror, yea that rag, announces Putin has a new kill list. Biden is still using is kill list from 2012.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putins-issues-new-kill-23765739

Posted by: Tom | Mar 21 2021 8:11 utc | 196

Following up on #191. Jake Sullivan is about to become even more important.

He is entirely a creature of Hillary. So is the Harris a creature of Hillary. We all know how Harris got her start in the DA’s office. Willie Brown speaks freely about that and Harris quietly confirms. Once it is established what you are only the price needs to be negotiated. Harris moved to the national stage entirely on her relationship with Hillary. No one voted for her in primary, no one is impressed by her, she has never accomplished anything. She has few friends, if any. My presumption would be she did for Hillary exactly what she did for Willie Brown.

Try to remember Hills as SoS. All she had was swagger. When out of her depth, which was always, she passed the ball to Sid and Max Blumenthal, to Chris Steele, to Huma Abedin. Lots of reliance on Huma. Also relied on Jake Sullivan. Who was just a kid then and is still all of 44 years old. Who has never done anything but swamp life.

We don’t hear much from Hills. She is sick and she is drunk. When Harris gets handed the big job and there is a crisis she is going to run to momma Hills. And be managed by Jake Sullivan. Who is an idiot. We can only hope he is less truly fond of war than Hillary, the pressure from the two women is going to be there.

A little more about Harris. She grew up in Berkeley. Her father spent her early childhood years teaching at Urbana and at Northwestern. And then divorced mom when the girl was seven years old. That little girl still has a lot of anger. And has pieces missing that never came from dad.

Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 21 2021 8:27 utc | 197

Bidet's falls and their possible causes...
https://twitter.com/SocialistBloke/status/1372978663394836481

Posted by: tucenz | Mar 21 2021 8:39 utc | 198

Posted by: Josh | Mar 20 2021 23:27 utc | 159

The common misconception is that the American people accept and support the political establishment in our country.
We don't.


True. And a brilliant strategy it is. Folks will despise political figure heads and yet actively or tacitly support the policies.

Cultivate a deep sectarian divide, install a universal draft and watch the entire electorate march off to battle against their favourite pinata. A perfect legion armed with slogans and foam fingers and vengeance in their eyes.

Posted by: robin | Mar 21 2021 8:57 utc | 199

Posted by: d dan | Mar 21 2021 4:09 utc | 182

According to their own assessment, they thought that they could trash PLA in a slaughtering house in 1950 in Korea too. Hahaha, we all know what happened.

Yes we do. A country reduced to rubble, urban centres laid to waste, 3 million dead and a nation frozen into a state of arrested development which lasts to this day.

Posted by: robin | Mar 21 2021 8:58 utc | 200

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