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March 30, 2021

Somewhat Out Of The Mud

Thought of making another joke about the boat but that ship has now sailed.

Your host will, hopefully, be back by tomorrow.

Use as open thread ...

 

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Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 31 2021 20:44 utc | 198

Primakov turned the airliner back to Russian when flying over the Atlantic after finding out that NATO was bombing Yugoslavia.

It took them a little while but here it is in Russian, the whole Middle East was mentioned so there is lots of content.

Valday Conference Middle East Lavrov


Posted by: Paco | Mar 31 2021 21:18 utc | 201

Biden's job proposal woefully short: $2 Trillion isn't even close. $10 Trillion is closer. Too bad all that money given to Neoliberal Parasites can't be grabbed back to use properly. And that's one of the big problems with Biden's proposal--too much gets wasted on grease for the Vested Interests that doesn't do anything to solve the problems. Meanwhile, the Outlaw US Empire's main competitors are busy implementing their already devised and funded plans, although Putin seeks extra financial support for regional development projects tied to the overall program of national priorities. Of course the big impediment within the Empire are the Neoliberals who want it all for themselves and will oppose all legislation that doesn't do that.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 31 2021 21:27 utc | 202

Paco @200--

Thanks very much for the link!! I'm about 1/2 way through amid the discussion on Syria where Lavrov says the following as part of his answer:

"Let us not forget that ISIL was created by the United States when it committed aggression against Iraq and committed such cases there, which still a huge number of countries and peoples 'scatter' the consequences. ISIL was created after the Baath Party was dispersed, all the security forces were dispersed, when P. Bremer led Iraq as Governor-General, and no one gave him any instructions. And subsequently, ISIL has been actively used and continues to be used by the United States to impede the processes that will lead to a settlement in Syria with full participation of the current government."

In other words, the Outlaw US Empire develops and fully supports terrorist forces, which also means NATO does too. And yet Moscow hopes to have positive relations with such people, although perhaps that ideal is no longer seen as feasible despite its still being espoused. Back to reading!

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 31 2021 22:02 utc | 203

@ : vk | Mar 31 2021 21:14 utc | 199

This Peter Beyer is just "La Voix de son Maître"
Never worked for Germany. If even worked.
member of the Bundestag's Committee on Foreign Affairs, where he serves as his parliamentary group's rapporteur on transatlantical and the relations with Kosovo, Montenegro and Serbia.

Must register As foreign agent.

Wiki.de Nach seinem Studium arbeitete Peter Beyer in der internationalen US-Kanzlei Mayer, Brown & Platt (heute Mayer Brown) in Köln, in den Sozietäten Brinks, Hofer, Gilson & Lione (Chicago, USA) sowie Murchison & Cumming (Los Angeles, USA).

Im Jahr 2001 machte Beyer an der University of Virginia in Charlottesville, einen Abschluss als Master of Laws.

Posted by: Bernard F. | Mar 31 2021 22:14 utc | 204

to librul. I read your post #1... heart breaking - or better said - it broke mine back in the day. I didn't watch your utoob link because I was aware of the staggering hypocracy and betrayal back when it happened. Bomber went from Aretha Franklin and Yo Yo Ma at the inauguration to war criminal at nearly the speed of light. To quote the poet "don't ask me why I don't live there - honey why don't you move?" But thanks for posting. One needs to be reminded of - Ok another quote "the horror the horror" and there are still many people who don't know. Another quote "go to the good"

Posted by: Miss Lacy | Apr 1 2021 0:12 utc | 205

karlof1 your Primakov link goes to goodreads! One of my favorite places to while away an hour. Thank you for the archive link! New to me. Much appreciated.

Posted by: Miss Lacy | Apr 1 2021 0:40 utc | 206

Jackrabbit @Mar30 17:30 #32:

AstraZeneca has been plagued with problems ... And the J&J vaccine is still hard to find....

IMO we are being herded into the mRNA vaccines.


<> <> <> <> <> <>

15 MILLION doses of J&J vaccine ruined in ‘ingredient mixup accident’ at Baltimore plant, delaying US shipments & triggering probe

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 1 2021 1:07 utc | 207


@ Posted by: juliania | Mar 31 2021 16:39 utc | 174

“Everything that rises must converge." Flannery [O’Connor] used it for the title of her second set of short stories, among which is my favorite one, "Revelation".

That is also my favorite short short of Flannery O’Connor’s, juliania.

O’ Connor possesses a genius of expression which reaches to depths otherwise unfathomable to quotidian life, high or low.

If some here are unfamiliar with O’Connor’s presence in the American literary landscape, here’s a pdf link to Flannery’s 1965 short story, “Revelation,” written toward the end of her life and which encapsulates her thinking re many issues — and not far flung from many great spiritual thinkers of her century,


https://www.ohio.k12.ky.us/userfiles/1153/Classes/7791/OConner%20Revelation.pdf

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Posted by: suzan | Apr 1 2021 1:16 utc | 208

Miss Lacy @205--

You're most welcome! The Archive is free to enroll at and has a plethora of media to browse though and is associated with the Way Back Machine that archives other types of print media besides books. Happy reading!

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2021 1:49 utc | 209

Unfortunately, it looks like we will be going back to b's famous Ukraine sitreps shortly..

Posted by: Lozion | Apr 1 2021 2:24 utc | 210

@ suzan | Apr 1 2021 1:16 utc | 207 with the link to O'Conner's Revelation...thanks

The ending was good but an earlier section caught my eye

"
In the deepening light everything was taking on a mysterious hue. The pasture was growing a particular glassy green and the streak of the highway had turned lavender. She braced herself for a final assault and this time her voice rolled out over the pasture. “Go on,” she yelled, “call me a hog! Call me a hog again. From hell. Call me a wart hog from hell.
Put that bottom rail on top. There’ll still be a top and bottom!”
"

Quite the powerful piece and I appreciate you sharing. I continue to encourage folks to understand the reality of top/bottom in relation to the left/right myth but the programming is deep.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 1 2021 2:44 utc | 211

Below is a Xinhuanet posting that I was going to post a link to and then decided that it needs to be posted here in total.

"
BEIJING, March 31 (Xinhua) -- China will roll out new measures to deepen the reform of government functions, in a bid to further energize market players and boost the momentum of development, the State Council executive meeting chaired by Premier Li Keqiang decided on Wednesday.

Solid efforts are needed to maintain stability on the six priority fronts and provide protections in the six key areas. It is imperative to have a keen grasp of the current economic situation and take more concrete measures to provide necessary support and solidify the foundation of stability, so as to promote stable economic operation and improve the quality and efficiency of growth.

"It is critical to maintain stability on the six priority fronts and provide protections in the six key areas. Experience gained from last year shows that efforts in this regard played a vital role in keeping China's economic fundamentals stable," Li said.

The meeting decided on policy steps to create a more enabling employment environment. The number of professions requiring government-approved licenses will be reduced, while the certification of vocational skill grades by private actors will be promoted.

The sound development of new forms of employment will be supported. Occupational injury insurance for flexible employment will be piloted, and the coverage of work injury compensation insurance extended, to safeguard the lawful rights and interests of people engaged in flexible employment.

"While stabilizing full-time employment, we must attach great importance to flexible employment, which holds broad prospects," Li said.

The meeting also called for streamlining the procedures for enterprise-related examination and approval, while reducing the documents, time and fees required. China will accelerate its efforts to achieve the whole-process digitization of trademark and patent registration. The customs inspection rate of law-abiding enterprises and low-risk goods will be reduced, while charges at ports will be reduced or merged.

"We should stay clear-eyed that the foundation of economic recovery and growth needs to be reinforced, if we are to have sound and steady economic development," Li said.

Domestic demand will be boosted. Unwarranted restrictions on the cross-city registration of used cars will be overhauled, while market access for homestays will be eased as appropriate.

The supply of public services in the sphere of livelihoods will be optimized. More inter-provincial services will be provided for matters closely related to people's daily lives. The development of elderly care facilities will be promoted by involving private actors to improve services.

"Market players need to be enabled to play a primary role," said Li, "Since last year, there has been a significant increase in the number of market players, which now totals over 138 million. Over 70 percent are active. We need to support these market players to keep employment stable."

Fair regulation will be further promoted. Both deregulation and oversight will be advanced as needed, while effective oversight will serve as a necessary safeguard for administrative streamlining. Competent departments shall fulfill due oversight responsibilities. Regulatory standards and rules will be refined, and a benchmark system for administrative discretion established.

Compliance oversight will be innovated and stepped up, and matters involving people's life and health and public security will be put under stringent oversight. Deepening the reform of government functions will help foster a more vibrant, fair and efficient market.

"Fair competition will be promoted through fair regulation. Market entities can only get a fair shot at opportunity when there is fair competition," Li said.
"

I assume when they refer to market players they are talking about private/for profit organizations. Think about that fellow barflies. Here we have a civilization that is managing the public/private mix of their mixed economy on an ongoing basis....based on what seems to be working.....LOL....this is what you can do with a totally secular government by and for the people...the pipe dream of America.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 1 2021 5:00 utc | 212

Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 31 2021 20:38 utc | 197

"Blinken and Nod can postulate any sanction they want, victors will write the tale. No one will care what the loser squawks about. Ukraine will continue to hemorrhage emigrants and continue to fade away."

I think Stonebird #188 is essentially correct. "USA", that is in foreign policy essentially CIA, wants a conflict, so that Russia will have to intervene. This leads to a stop of the pipeline and hopefully a renewal of the cold war in full glory, but with a Russia essentially without European allies. CIA tells the Ukraine government what to do and controls the narrative in the west, don't hope for anything else.

Putin tries to talk to Merkel and Macron, they agree, they don't want this, but can do nothing, CIA runs the show. They will have to play along. On the Western front nothing new.

Europe is a non-entity because they have no leadership. Putin has to talk to America directly, but same problem, they have no leadership that will show up to talk. The leaders are hidden. "Diplomacy" is only theater in the West, what is said means nothing, you can make no agreements.

Putin mobilizes and considers. If it comes to this, and we have to intervene, would it be preferable to destroy the Ukraine entirely, and secure the Black Sea? What will happen in Belarus, Georgia, what with domestic public opinion? How much will it cost?

Posted by: veto | Apr 1 2021 7:04 utc | 213

@vk
Russia has a monthly production capacaty of ca. 30 million doses Sputnik V, enough for 15 million people. Russia has a population of 147 million, Brazil has a population 210 million.

Posted by: m | Apr 1 2021 7:11 utc | 214

oldhippie | Mar 31 2021 20:38 utc | 197
veto | Apr 1 2021 7:04 utc | 212

One thing about this situation is rather funny (odd). The "original" theme was that Zelensky would increase troop and armour levels to where the Russians would "have" to do something about it.
NOW, Putin and the Russian Military have increased their side's presence beyond what might have been expected. The size of the relative forces has been reversed. (Even if Ukraine/NeoWhatsits are now more efficient due to NATO training and US arms input.)

It's situation has now become to confront the CIA, Zelensky with a "Do it or Leave it".

ie. This goes back to the "Alaska" and Rus/China "sanction" about-turn. (Previous threads). Does Putin bet that the US/Ukraine side will do exactly nothing and be obliged back down in public?

(The old game strategy was always to forment civil strife (as in Maidan) to weaken the opponent and then try to substitute a puppet. There will be Presidential elections in September in Russia, so to cause damage to Putins relection chances - he has to be seen as a loser. Thus the set-up we see in Ukraine. BUT if zelensky/CIA have to back down - I assume that was not part of the Bidenette's plan.)

Interesting types of arms being sent to the area. Bridge building Brigades (?). Artillery (152 mm, some with a range of 80km.)

Poker played between Putin and a Pokemon?

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 1 2021 8:02 utc | 215

Paris under strict lockdown since 2 weeks? sic... as if a pcr test of less than 72 hours (..when genuine) and no quarantine could make a difference
https://easycdg.com/passenger-information/live-flight-cdg/arrivals-paris-cdg-airport-charlesdegaulle/

https://www.airport-orly.com/arrivals.php

At least let's recognize (what does our host think about that?) they did their very best to let the virus spread

Posted by: Mina | Apr 1 2021 9:32 utc | 216

Could it be that this sort of news three weeks ago has led some to go for a scorched earth policy?
https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/eu-fumes-over-italys-deal-produce-russias-sputnik-vaccine

Posted by: Mina | Apr 1 2021 9:52 utc | 217

Snake #38 on the false assertions thread

Here is my take re pilgrims and the podcast discussion between Mike and Doug.

Trump was such a sad, bad choice of person to have ended up as the champion/challenger for the situation described. He is beyond flawed. He is not fit for purpose and yet he and this circumstance may yet expose or reveal the mendacious network that is said to exist here.

This story does not need the complexity of this conspiracy and its web of relations. The global private finance oligarchy is being confronted by strenuous opposition, its propaganda countered and negated. These guys are part of a disinformation, dust in the air team to distract. They sow unnecessary complexity which results in the mindset of ‘oh its all so complex and labyrinthine that I don’t know where to start’. They disempower organised opportunities.

Sure the englanders aristocrats are part of the problem and need to be reduced to the same class as everyone else: sequester their wealth and assets, strip their powers and vest those powers in the people’s parliament or politburo.

The extent that these englanders have control over Kamala Harris is relevant but inconsequential if the people of Usastan are going to have a revolution to restore their possession of their government, courts and economy. These lads have a list of names between them that defines an inner core of the class enemy. Start your revolution there but never turn your back on the comforters and facilitators of these enemies of the people – the US press oligarchs. But these lads are all piss and wind bending over their loom, weaving new clothes for a naked king.

USA needs a socialist system of development where the vast sums of magic money currently passed around and created out of thin air are put to use for the people. Bernie Sanders proposed a good raft of policies that should be pushed forward and implemented without delay. That Sanders sold out and backed the class enemy is now irrelevant as is the squad now irrelevant. They are the class enemy as they are traitors to the socialist alternative. The squad is the handmaiden to Lord Malloch Brown or George Soros or Prince Charles or whatever. The Republicans are the same and they are incapable of dumping their false prophet Donald Trump because they are terrified of the socialist alternative. These two clown carts are trundling downhill together heading for the same swamp at more or less the same speed.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 1 2021 9:58 utc | 218

The 56th Airborne is in Crimea and everyone still insists that nothing is happening.

Ukraine army is all NATO trained up now. Right. As they drive around in 1960s T64 tanks. Russia is just terrified of 60 year old tanks. Russia just doesn’t know how to cope with the tanks they used sixty years ago.

No point in going on. Keep believing what master puts in your brain

Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 1 2021 11:22 utc | 219


Russian troops transfer should not concern other states, Kremlin says

Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 1 2021 12:37 utc | 220

oldhippie @ 218

The 56th Airborne is in Crimea and everyone still insists that nothing is happening

So, who is this everyone anyway? On March 13th b posted 'Why The War In Ukraine May Soon Resume' essentially covering everything you've said since.

I guess we're all just waiting to see what happens next...

...with bated breath.

Posted by: john | Apr 1 2021 12:55 utc | 221

Thanks, all

At my post @104 I proposed a test of MoA (it was also a test of YouTube).

Click the link if you visit MoA

(It is a link to a video that archives evidence of an Obama war crime.)

Here are the results.
When I posted the same video link @1 the Views counter of the video
( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHcg3TNSRPs )
stood at 2470
when I looked a few minutes ago
it stood at 2662.

That is nearly 200 views and thus I would say it is a very healthy response from MoA.
YouTube *appears* to have been doing it's job and recording each new view.
I say *appears* as I am still suspicious of the honesty of YouTube.

By the way, this morning was the first time I had ever seen the full page Youtube message:
"Before you continue to YouTube". They want you to consent to cookies and gd-knows-whatelse.
Found a solution (seems to work thus far without creating other problem):


Firefox

Load
about:preferences#privacy
in the browser’s address bar.
Scroll down to Cookies and Site Data.
Select the Manage Exceptions button.
Type consent.youtube.com in "address of website" and select the "block" option.
Click on save changes.

Posted by: librul | Apr 1 2021 13:04 utc | 222

@Posted by: Miss Lacy | Apr 1 2021 0:12 utc | 204

Yes, Obama is a "heart breaker".

One more thought on Obama (and the Pentagon).

We hear of fraternities like Skull and Bones at Yale.
They, and other similar fraternities and mafias, so we hear, have initiations
that require the candidate seeking acceptance to the fraternity to perform
a criminal act or in the case of Skull and Bones to confess to a personal deeply held dark secret.
The purpose is to give other members of the fraternity something to hold over,
extort, the candidate with and guarantee their future loyalty.

This incident with Obama, in which he granted the Pentagon permission to commit an
act of war in a country we were not at war with and against parties that were
not terrorists, was Obama expecting a highly precise pinpoint attack against
an individual based upon sound intelligence? And what he got instead was the use of cluster
bombs in a civilian area that killed dozens of innocents.

He and the Pentagon then shared a common secret, and Obama was cooked if he did not
remain loyal to the MIC fraternity.

A possibility.

Posted by: librul | Apr 1 2021 13:24 utc | 223

@220

When the 56th is deployed it is usually to write parking tickets.

Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 1 2021 13:42 utc | 224

The truth always comes out:

Vídeo: Empresário diz que dá Ivermectina a funcionários e os obriga a trabalhar com Covid [Video: Brazilian businessman says he gives ivermectin to his employees and force them to go to work with COVID-19]

"In my company, I pay for the ivermectin of all my employees", the capitalist proudly says in the video.

Since the beginning of the HCQ fraud, I've been stating here that the most ardent supporters of these cheap miraculous drugs are the petty bourgeoisie, who needs some kind of political-economical silver bullet to force the working class - specially their employees - to go to the meat grinder and sacrifice themselves for their profits. Those are closeted genocidal with a humanitarian disguise; they never fooled me and never will.

By the way, it's now discovered that the Brazilian variant trebles the mortality of young people aged 20-29 and doubles the mortality of people aged 30-59. Congratulations, covidiots, you killed your sons and daughters and grandchildren:

Pesquisadores pedem que vacinação no Brasil seja acelerada depois de descobrir que variante P.1 triplica risco de morte para jovens de 20 a 29 anos

It's in Portuguese, go fuck translate it yourselves.

Posted by: vk | Apr 1 2021 14:31 utc | 225

Trump is supposedly announcing his new platform today at 1 PM EST which I think translates to 19:00 CET
https://djtup.com/

We shall see if it is able to influence day to day news...

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 1 2021 14:56 utc | 226

BEIJING, March 31 (Xinhua) -- China will roll out new measures to deepen the reform of government functions, in a bid to further energize market players and boost the momentum of development, the State Council executive meeting chaired by Premier Li Keqiang decided on Wednesday. [The phrase "market players" is meaningless, blending together a street cart vendor or beauty salon operator or roofer with the proprietor of a factory or mine or movie studio. The benefits will go to the larger players, as is meant. It's like how in the US "small business" means less than five hundred employees.]

Solid efforts are needed to maintain stability on the six priority fronts and provide protections in the six key areas. It is imperative to have a keen grasp of the current economic situation and take more concrete measures to provide necessary support and solidify the foundation of stability, so as to promote stable economic operation and improve the quality and efficiency of growth. [Pious wishes that give lip service to vague "goals."]

"It is critical to maintain stability on the six priority fronts and provide protections in the six key areas. Experience gained from last year shows that efforts in this regard played a vital role in keeping China's economic fundamentals stable," Li said. [Expression of fealty to the program while claiming experience shows increasing the role of the market is the way to do so. This seems entirely unlikely, merely lip service.]

The meeting decided on policy steps to create a more enabling employment environment. The number of professions requiring government-approved licenses will be reduced, while the certification of vocational skill grades by private actors will be promoted. [Deregulating licenses for professions presumes that the licensing has been artificially restricting the supply of professionals, a kind of monopoly preventing competition. It's not clear this is true, or that the excess salaries are actually a major cost. As for the "private" certification, that means the employer is to be allowed to determine how skilled a vocational worker is and set their pay accordingly. This is encouraging employers to lower workers' wages, I think, on the grounds they are not suitably certified. No doubt this is good for somebody's "economic stability."]

The sound development of new forms of employment will be supported. Occupational injury insurance for flexible employment will be piloted, and the coverage of work injury compensation insurance extended, to safeguard the lawful rights and interests of people engaged in flexible employment. [This is to encourage hiring part-time workers, easing the transition by offering some hope for a "pilot" program to actually become a wide-spread thing.]

"While stabilizing full-time employment, we must attach great importance to flexible employment, which holds broad prospects," Li said. [Emphasizes the plan to switch as much as possible to part-time employment. This trend has done great and terrible things in this country I think.]

The meeting also called for streamlining the procedures for enterprise-related examination and approval, while reducing the documents, time and fees required. China will accelerate its efforts to achieve the whole-process digitization of trademark and patent registration. The customs inspection rate of law-abiding enterprises and low-risk goods will be reduced, while charges at ports will be reduced or merged. [Deregulation, lowering business taxes, increased IP protections, that's the ticket!]

"We should stay clear-eyed that the foundation of economic recovery and growth needs to be reinforced, if we are to have sound and steady economic development," Li said. [We can't let the unlikelihood of the people at large benefiting from deregulation, lower business taxes, increased IP protection, increased part-time work, allowing businesses to rate the skills and pay of workers from stopping us from helping "market players," i.e., turning government into a service for capital.]

Domestic demand will be boosted. Unwarranted restrictions on the cross-city registration of used cars will be overhauled, while market access for homestays will be eased as appropriate. [It is not clear that domestic demand is lower because used cars can't be re-registered in another city easily. If this was the US, it would definitely be a boon to the repo market. In China? It is not clear what a "homestay" is. If homestays have money they can't spend in markets, this might actually be a benefit...but an excess of cash rarely seems to be a problem in any economy, despite delusions about inflation held by bankers.]

The supply of public services in the sphere of livelihoods will be optimized. More inter-provincial services will be provided for matters closely related to people's daily lives. The development of elderly care facilities will be promoted by involving private actors to improve services. [Optimizing usually means cutting services and calling it cutting out the fat, increasing efficiency (by overloading what's left,) etc. The need for interprovincial services to be provided suggests that the central government is starting to lose control of the provinces, as they begin following the capitalist road to different destinations. Now, we have neo-colonial concessions. Next, we get financial warlordism? China seems to be reviving the past as part of Chinese characteristics!]

"Market players need to be enabled to play a primary role," said Li, "Since last year, there has been a significant increase in the number of market players, which now totals over 138 million. Over 70 percent are active. We need to support these market players to keep employment stable." [This sounds like it's counting everyone not engaged in a SOE as a player. Aside from being misleading about who benefits from deregulation and privatization, it sounds like the claim the SOEs are a drag. I think they are the stabilizers and this policy of privatization is ultimately destabilizing and anti-growth. This is the opposite of the high-minded goals, but as a policy there are those who benefit. Just not in the long run, the people.]

Fair regulation will be further promoted. Both deregulation and oversight will be advanced as needed, while effective oversight will serve as a necessary safeguard for administrative streamlining. Competent departments shall fulfill due oversight responsibilities. Regulatory standards and rules will be refined, and a benchmark system for administrative discretion established. [Cutting government tends to leave it unable to keep up with the rich. It's like the IRS letting the rich evade taxes while screwing over the taxpayers who can't afford accountants and specialized lawyers. Any official who tries to crack the whip will be condemned as an evil bureaucrat who arbitrarily selects a victim who didn't get fair warning etc. The whole general perspective that regulation compensates for the tendencies of capitalism to concentration and centralization, especially during crises, is of course rancid dogma suitable for bourgeois politicians of a century ago. Teddy Roosevelt lives again?]

Compliance oversight will be innovated and stepped up, and matters involving people's life and health and public security will be put under stringent oversight. Deepening the reform of government functions will help foster a more vibrant, fair and efficient market. [Innovating compliance oversight in a deregulation and privatization campaign means...well, if it means anything it means asking for more self-reports *from the parties supposedly being regulated.* Otherwise, it means cutting enforcement expenditures, cutting penalties for non-compliance, lowering standards for compliance, etc. A weak government does not make a fair market. That's just confusing lower taxes on business, or a free hand for business, with "fair."]

"Fair competition will be promoted through fair regulation. Market entities can only get a fair shot at opportunity when there is fair competition," Li said.[BS]

The authorities keep saying over and over that they want to undermine socialism, and promote the market, that is, private control of social production and investment. The idea that this will not lead to the ever-increasing strength of the capitalists makes no sense. The conclusion that capitalism has a future of unlimited growth in China is nonsense. Increasing production for profit means decreasing the welfare of humanity. It will not magically lead to "socialism," with or without Chinese characteristics. More and more, it seems lip service to the idea of "socialism" the main Chinese characteristic.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Apr 1 2021 15:17 utc | 227

Stonebird @214--

The Russian elections are for the Duma, not President.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2021 15:23 utc | 228

Norwegian @225

There is a defense of the "Free Press©" in which it is acknowledged that "They all lie!", but somehow the lies of different businesses all cancel each other out and that the resulting "average" of all of the professed truths is thus a close approximation of the real Truth. Obviously this notion is logically flawed in its very core as it assumes the liars have no common interests in which their lies will coincide.

Because of this I have no faith that Trump's new media platform will right the wrongs in the world; nevertheless, I do look forward to it. It could really stir up the status quo!

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 1 2021 15:38 utc | 229

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2021 15:23 utc | 227

Still an important election since the party United Russia does not have the popularity of the President.

What a schedule they have at MID, Lavrov gives an interview to Channel One and a program called "The Great Game", more than an hour length, just watched the beginning and the IGIL theme repeated, plus a direct mention to Hillary's gloating about the murder of Ghadafi.

Another interesting note, very brief, the US ambassador in Moscow is received by Ryabkov, the second in charge at MID and not Lavrov himself, to discuss the Biden invitation to the Climate discussion meeting, quite a signal.

The "Great Game" program text has been posted in Russian.

https://www.mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/-/asset_publisher/cKNonkJE02Bw/content/id/4662534

Posted by: Paco | Apr 1 2021 15:39 utc | 230

Well, the headline was promising, "Biden Orders Pentagon to Remove Patriots, Forces Out of Persian Gulf Region, Reports Suggest", but it only seems to affect forces in Saudi, not where they must be removed--Syria, Iraq. Perhaps this POTUS's orders will be followed?

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2021 15:51 utc | 231

Paco @230--

Thanks for your reply! Yes, I agree the election's very important, and Putin has said as much many times in his meetings.

I'm going to be away for @5 hrs today beginning shortly, so I'll likely look at that info later.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2021 15:55 utc | 232

karlof1 | Apr 1 2021 15:23 utc | 228

Now I am slightly confused, as I don't really see what Navalny has to do with that. I assumed he wanted to create an "alternative" to the President. Not to voted representatives, with him being acclaimed the biggest "thing since the cat's dinner"* naturally.

*old UK saying.

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 1 2021 16:07 utc | 233

oldHippie and others

This is a thread about what could be one of (or the) main objectives for the Russians. Water and the cutting by the Ukes of the supply canal to Crimea. (Scroll down too)

I suspect that Zelensky's threat to attack the Kersch Bridge plus the recent sanctions by Australia and Canada (plus others) on those who made it - may have made some action of the type mentioned become really necessary for the Russians. Take the land between Crimea - present frontier - and the Dnieper river, more or less along the line of canal. Take the Kherson part as well, which puts them in a strategic position closer to Odessa, which was more pro-Russia at the time of Maidan.

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1377432142867664899

Airborne troops and bridge layers?

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 1 2021 16:20 utc | 234

karlof1 @ 193,199 Thank you for both links, very enjoyable Pepe conversation and then informative Primakov excerpt. I hadn't remembered that Yeltsin's announcement of Putin as his successor took place on Dec. 31,1999. That certainly explains the emotion evident in Putin as he gives that New Year's speech every year. It is also very helpful to be reminded of the immediate aftereffect of the attack on the US at 9/11. All conspiracy theories aside, the problems in Chechnya and Dagestan gave Russia and the US common issues to face which ought to have provided the opportunity then and there to forestall the stupidity that underlay US insistence on enmity. But already in the diplomatic cold shoulder Primakov reports as having occurred before that, the underlying division was in the works. And there was a lot more of that kind of nastiness to follow.

That was an interesting read, with respect to Putin's strategy of working with the federal regions and the governors - reminded me of Rumsfeld's remark 'you work with the army you have'. An exceptional piece of Russian history unfolding. Thanks again.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 1 2021 16:45 utc | 235

Stonebird @ 234

Airborne aka Air Assault Guards.

By chance I saw earlier that regimental honors for the 56th begin with the Battle of the Dnieper. History tends to rhyme, sometimes it means something, sometimes not. Given the Banderite obsession with WWII the message is not lost on them.

Just heard there are fresh arrivals from Ukraine in our Ukrainian Village neighborhood. Described to me as “not peasants” and “scared out of their minds”.

Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 1 2021 17:08 utc | 236

Thank you, suzan @ 207 for posting the link to Flannery's "Revelation". [this might be a repeat as my comment thanking you has disappeared]

I was drawing a comparison between Flannery O'Connor's writing and Dostoievski's, as the sum total of their writings, it seemed to me, is more than just one or another of the stories on their own, which makes reading all of them an adventure rather the way a symphony unfolds musically speaking.

I ended by saying that Plato's dialogues seem to be similar, though my Greek doesn't allow me to go very far along that path. The site to do so is plato-dialogues.org

Posted by: juliania | Apr 1 2021 17:10 utc | 237

@William Gruff | Apr 1 2021 15:38 utc | 229

Agreed, the main effect will be to stir the pot.

Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 1 2021 17:11 utc | 238

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 1 2021 16:20 utc | 234

The heading of that twitter thread is misleading, Ukraine has been described by the Russians as a suitcase without a handle in the middle of a busy station, Russia does not need a big problem and that is what Ukraine is nowadays, a hot potato created by the west should be handled by them. Of course it is a different matter if Kiev goes for a military solution, then Putin said and Lavrov confirmed in the interview with Channel 1 "Great Game", Ukraine risks losing its statehood, that's it, no more speculations or armchair war and strategic plans. Sure, water is needed badly, desalination plants are being built plus renewal of a decrepit water distribution network, -decrepitude all over the peninsula due to neglect by Kiev-.

Posted by: Paco | Apr 1 2021 17:18 utc | 239

"Zelensky's threat to attack the Kersch Bridge"

Ukraine has soft targets too.
Would Putin do tit for tat?

I expect not as these sort of things escalate and get out of hand quickly.


Up until Churchill’s appointment as prime minister both Germany and Britain had stuck to a pledge not to attack targets in each other’s cities where civilians were at risk.

And we know how that all worked out for both Britain and Germany once the pledge was broken.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/hitler-didn-t-start-indiscriminate-bombings-churchill-did-

Posted by: librul | Apr 1 2021 17:26 utc | 240

Need help triggering your gag reflex? Hunter Biden's autohagiography is coming out next week.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hunter-biden-says-wouldnt-repeat-050959967.html

Posted by: Carl | Apr 1 2021 17:27 utc | 241

Thank you, psychohistorian @ 212. This article reminds me of what we saw Russia doing in meetings and in Putin's long conversations addressing the people's concerns - something that isn't possible in the US today, if it ever was. I am remembering there was an online site for such interaction that Obama had set up, which so quickly got taken down and was even then only a one way sort of 'suggestion box' for people to post a message. Openness is a sign of honest intent, and ongoing improvements underway are a sign of humility. Things aren't perfect; we can make them better.

"Make America Great Again" was always the wrong slogan. There are commendable policies we used to have, but obviously they weren't perfect or we wouldn't be where we are today, so we need to do better. Humility isn't a bad word, comes from 'humus' the soil; it's why the way up is the way down.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 1 2021 17:37 utc | 242

Paco | Apr 1 2021 17:18 utc | 239

Agreed. My bad, I should have pointed out that the original "twit" is from a mainly Pro-Ukraine source (a US person). The logic is possibly correct - as further down the thread it mentions that water reserves can be pumped, but this is finite and leads in the end to salination and rendering water undrinkable. The desalinisation plants (one new one just finished) probably can only cover human and animal drinking needs but not agriculture.

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 1 2021 17:42 utc | 243

oldhippie | Apr 1 2021 17:08 utc | 236

Noted thanks, I don't envy anyone around there.

I see that the pipeline being built (NordStream II) is being harassed by warships, fishing vessels and "nearly" had an close encounter with a foreign submarine. (RT)

If things go wrong, all of us go up together?

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 1 2021 17:50 utc | 244

@Posted by: Carl | Apr 1 2021 17:27 utc | 241

Thanks for the laugh, Carl.

Here is one back at you (or whoever likes to laugh).

Known as the Deep State Bible
Foreign Affairs is a great place to
people-watch people that drink warmonger koolaid morning, noon and night.

Read the first paragraph (bet you can't read just one, it is much too gawk-worthy).
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/russia-fsu/2021-04-01/vladimir-putin-russias-weak-strongman

Yes, the article is dated April Fools Day, but these folks take their drivel seriously. It is amazing stuff!

Here is the final paragraph, an amazing example of Psychological projection.
I follow it up with a rewrite of the paragraph that demonstrates how this warmonger is
really talking about himself (Deep State aka US of MIC).



Putin faces no immediate threat to his rule. He is a deft tactician with considerable financial resources facing a disorganized opposition. Yet no amount of shrewdness can overcome the agonizing trade-offs of running Russia the way he does. Cheat enough in elections so that you don’t risk losing, but not so much that it signals weakness. Rile up the base with anti-Western moves, but not to the extent that it provokes an actual conflict with the West. Reward cronies through corruption, but not so much that the economy collapses. Manipulate the news, but not to the point where people distrust the media. Repress political opponents, but not enough to spark a popular backlash. Strengthen the security services, but not so much that they can turn on you. How the Kremlin balances these tradeoffs will determine Russia’s immediate future. But the trend toward greater repression over the last four years, and its likely continuation, does not bode well for Russia or its leader.

Clarified version:


The Deep State faces no immediate threat to his rule. He is a deft tactician with considerable financial resources facing a disorganized opposition. Yet no amount of shrewdness can overcome the agonizing trade-offs of running US of MIC the way he does. Cheat enough in elections so that you don’t risk losing, but not so much that it signals weakness. Rile up the base with anti-Other moves, but not to the extent that it provokes an actual conflict with Russia. Reward cronies through corruption, but not so much that the economy collapses. Manipulate the news, but not to the point where people distrust the media. Repress political opponents, but not enough to spark a popular backlash. Strengthen the security services, but not so much that they can turn on you. How the Deep State balances these tradeoffs will determine US of MIC’s immediate future. But the trend toward greater repression over the last four years, and its likely continuation, does not bode well for US of MIC or its leader the Deep State.

Posted by: librul | Apr 1 2021 18:17 utc | 245

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 1 2021 17:42 utc | 243

Machine tranlation of a paragraph, the interviewer compares China's swift reaction to western sanctions and asks Lavrov how come Russia, which supplies more than a third of Europe's gas does not play that card, this is Lavrov's answer:

We will not do that. This is the principled position of Russian President Vladimir Putin. We will not "get" into a situation where we have to "freeze" the citizens of the European Union. We will never do this. We are not the Kiev regime, which blocked the canal that supplies water to Crimea, and rejoices at this. This is a shameful position in the international arena. The West, which quite often makes exclamations about the fact that we use energy as an instrument of influence, as a weapon, generally keeps mum about what Kiev is doing with the supply of water to Crimea. I believe that the provision of basic needs, on which the everyday life of ordinary citizens depends, can never be subject to sanctions.

Posted by: Paco | Apr 1 2021 18:18 utc | 246

Paco | Apr 1 2021 18:18 utc | 246

Very wise in fact. Russia will keep it's "word" as a trustworthy partner. These things are not forgotten and all go into the "image" that the rest of the world has about them. Note that it also drives the wedge in deeper between pragmatic Europeans and idiosyncratic Americans.

As they no longer are completely dependent on selling Oil and Gas to Europe (Chinese pipelines), they can "afford" to be generous. Anything that puts the US in the cold hard spotlight of reality is good PR.

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 1 2021 19:12 utc | 247

The English translation for the link Paco provided @230 for Lavrov's "Great Game" program interview is here. Yes, there are subtle differences--that language critter again. For example, here's the machine translation of the first question followed by the official translation:

"Recently, the word "war" has been used more and more often. It easily flies out of the mouth of American, NATO politicians, even easier - from the mouth of the Ukrainian military. Have you ever been more anxious than you are now?"

"The word “war” has been heard increasingly more often lately. US and NATO politicians, even more so the Ukrainian military, have no trouble saying it. Do you have more reasons to be concerned now than ever before?"

Those small distinctions do make a difference, and I'm sure there're more. Russian for those that don't know is more context dependent than English, thus making proper translation very important.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2021 21:16 utc | 248

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2021 21:16 utc | 248

Language is everything, "In the beginning was the word". Machine translation is almost literal, but fortunately translations cannot be carbon copies, the nature of language is life itself, a worldview, history, and the experience of generations are imbedded.

Russians tend to be extremely formal when it comes to English. I have some experience interpreting which is a lot easier than translating in some respects and way more complicated in others, since it requires immediacy and diplomacy, and limited experience translating some articles and introduction to some friends photography books. Since it is an official site they tend to be formal and usually soften rough edges, plus they take their time as you might have noticed. The Foreign Ministry is working overtime, so many things happening they’re producing more material than time to digest it, the gauntlet has been thrown.

Posted by: Paco | Apr 1 2021 21:49 utc | 249

Paco @249--

I'm back to reading the Russian version since the translation ended quickly, and there is indeed much talk about word choice and usage. However, IMO the term "generalizations" is too vague in an analytical sense. For example, When Shoigu joined Putin on his weekend retreat, I doubt they discussed generalizations since a policy means specifics, although it might be explained via generalizations.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2021 22:57 utc | 250

Paco et al--

More from the machine translation of Lavrov's interview:

"They want to establish instead of international law their "rules" that have nothing to do with the rule of law on a global, universal scale. I have already said how there were serious demonstrations in France in defense of traditional family values. It turns out that in order to ensure the rights of one group, it is necessary to infringe on the rights of another group. In other words, promoting these values around the world is not an end in itself, it is a tool to ensure its dominance."

Lavrov is on to the fact that Woke and Cancel are Divide and Rule tools just as some of us have opined here. There's much to read in that interview that will need to be looked at again.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 2 2021 0:17 utc | 251

I thought this was an amusing example of "lifting a rock to drop it on one's own toes."

Tim Hepher and David Shepardson
Wed, 31 March 2021, 8:12 pm
By Tim Hepher and David Shepardson

(Reuters) -Boeing Co urged the United States on Wednesday to keep human rights and other disputes separate from trade relations with Beijing, and warned European rival Airbus would gain if the U.S. planemaker were locked out of China.

Posted by: foolisholdman | Apr 2 2021 10:49 utc | 252

I'm getting fed up of saying nothing.

Israel to demolish over 100 Palestinian homes making 1,550 people homeless [over 800 children] so israelis have somewhere to picnic

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 2 2021 20:36 utc | 253

That Moreno was a real snake.


Ecuador: Lasso Linked to Tens of Millions in Florida Properties

"

A review of corporate and real estate records in Florida shows the Lasso-linked shell companies’ holdings have increased since 2017, raising questions over the legality of Lasso’s candidacy.

Ecuadorian presidential candidate Guillermo Lasso had links with shell companies in the United States for more than $30 million in 2017, which after the approval of a legal reform were covered up with "additional veils of anonymity," the CEPR research center denounced Thursday."

Posted by: arby | Apr 3 2021 14:05 utc | 254

Scotland's Dirty War


Oh lookee. The Guardian is getting involved.

Now what would we expect from the gang that stitched Julian? You won't be disappointed!


For Alex Salmond and his new Alba party, the prospects are not looking good
David Clegg


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/apr/03/alex-salmond-alba-party-prospects-holyrood


Ring any bells? David Clegg:

So let me tell you what is being hidden from the Scottish people.

The story was broken by David Clegg, Political Editor of the Daily Record.

He just happens to be the former lover of Liz Lloyd.
It's all there on the internet from their trip to the United States.
Wings Over Scotland has documented it all.*


So let me add it all up:

For the Iraq Invasion it was Alastair Campbell who was the prime mover. For the Salmond assassination it is Liz Lloyd who is the prime mover. Here is some of her involvement. In January or February 2018 she was involved in the coralling of fresh meat into the Scot Gov complaints "procedure". In March 2018 she lured Alex Salmond back into the web using Geoff Aberdein. On April 2 2018 she sprung the trap and sought, with Nicola Sturgeon, to blackmail Alex Salmond. Salmond launched a judicial review. That is, he called their bluff. They sought to carry out their blackmail threat by publishing their doodles and fantasies on the Scottish Government website. Salmond sought an Interdict (injunction) to prevent such publication. So Liz Lloyd leaked the report to her former lover at the Daily Record, who published and destroyed the good name of Alex Salmond. When Salmond continued to resist, and was about to win the judicial review, Liz Lloyd recruited and suborned five other women to make claims for the criminal trial of Alex Salmond. Then Ms Lloyd made an accusation herself, became an alpha Betty, and was rewarded with lifetime anonimity (she is Ms A in the criminal pleadings).
So I say again, and even more strongly:

Now here is the kicker.

Liz Lloyd has not appeared before the Fabiani committee!

Now it just might be that SOMEBODY is protecting Ms Lloyd.
I know who is that somebody. But I don't want to upset people by naming her.
Posted by: John Cleary | Mar 21 2021 23:14 utc | 69

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/03/the-moa-week-in-review-ot-2021-023.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef026bdec59858200c#comment-6a00d8341c640e53ef026bdec59858200c


* https://wingsoverscotland.com/?s=all+the+boys+and+girls

Posted by: John Cleary | Apr 3 2021 23:06 utc | 255

I post this far past the date of the OP but I just wanted to highlight a certain type of thinking I think is very dangerous (but do not wish this to be taken as an attack):

So the following what it sounds like when one attempts to fit your narrative to the facts instead of the other way around. We would likely mock a scientist if we were told they attempted to mold data to their original hypothesis. This type of thinking I see a lot of here and it frightens me because i really hope people can think a little more critically than this. Of course... we all do this from time to time so perhaps we can reflect a bit on what we do or do not consider 'high quality' thinking (saying this fully recognizing that it differs from one person to the next):


vk #97

On virus origins:

I agree. It's time for the WHO to have some balls and start to investigate other nations. It would not surprise me at all if the SARS-CoV-2 originated either in Italy or in West Coast USA.

I think the WHO might find more information on the eastcoast USA where Fort Detrick is located.

If you have a west coast CBW facility that is equally poorly managed as Fort Detrick in mind let me know.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 31 2021 2:27 utc | 103

Thinking like this just goes on to foster more closed mindedness and likely makes the world seem much worse than it is. This poster appears to me as constantly invested in supposition and rumor... and all his contributions here reflect that.

I don't mean to seem like a dick if you ever read this uncle tungsten I just am a bit frustrated with some of the ridiculous things i've seen you add to a discussion from time to time. However I still hope you continue to post your PoV if that's what you so wish to do! one question though... do you ever think you're wrong? what about in this situation what's you confidence 0 - 100 of this virus being a lab leak from a US and/or PRC facility?

Posted by: George Smiley | Apr 5 2021 21:51 utc | 256

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