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February 4, 2021
Why Do These Uighur Witnesses’ Stories Constantly Change?

Two months ago we documented astonishing changes over time in the testimony of a Uyhgur woman who had claimed to have been incarcerated in China:

Over the years [Sayragul] Sautbay has given several interviews. The details of her story continued to change in anti-Chinese directions.

  • In early interviews Sautbay claimed to have been an instructor working in a re-education camp. In later interviews she claims to have been a detainee.
  • In more recent interviews she claims that she had seen torture and violence in the camps. In earlier interviews she had refuted such claims.
  • In one story she claims to have observed mass rape. In older interviews she insisted that she had observed no violence at all.
  • While she now claims that detainees in the camp were forced to eat pork she had earlier claimed that no meat was served in the camps.

The changes in her story came after Sautbay had fallen into the hands of a propaganda group:

After she had gained asylum in Sweden Sautbay joint up with a U.S. financed Uighur organization. Her story then changed dramatically. The party member and language teacher had became a detainee. There was suddenly extensive violence in the camp and people who earlier never got meat were suddenly made to eat pork.

The Swedish Uyghur association is part of the Munich-based World Uyghur Congress, a CIA affiliated organization that has in recent years gained prominence as part of the U.S. driven anti-China campaign.

A similar change can be observed in the testimony of another Uyghur woman who currently makes the rounds through the media. Tursunay Ziawudun, a Uyghur woman who last year moved to the United States, now claims to have observed mass rape in Chinese detention camps.

The BBC headlined yesterday: 'Their goal is to destroy everyone': Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape

First-hand accounts from inside the internment camps are rare, but several former detainees and a guard have told the BBC they experienced or saw evidence of an organised system of mass rape, sexual abuse and torture.

Tursunay Ziawudun, who fled Xinjiang after her release and is now in the US, said women were removed from the cells "every night" and raped by one or more masked Chinese men. She said she was tortured and later gang-raped on three occasions, each time by two or three men.

Ziawudun was first interviewed (video) at the office of the Atajurt Kazakh Human Rights organization in Almaty, Kazakhstan, on October 15, 2019. An English summary of the interview is here. There are no allegations of rape or overly harsh treatment. The biggest problem seem to have been 'urinary disorders' which some people developed because the camp buildings were new and the concrete had not yet completely dried out.

The organization which did the first interview with Ziawudun acted as a broker between such persons and 'western' media:

The Atajurt Kazakh Human Rights Organization has provided enormous amount of information about the Chinese concentration camps and the dystopian regime in Xinjiang. We have hosted journalists from all around the world including Hong Kong, Japan, Russia, the United States, Canada, Britain, France, and Germany, among others.

Leading media outlets including CNN, the BBC and the New York Times had all visited Atajurt’s office in Almaty; journalists and human rights activists were aware of how valuable a source of information Atajurt was.

Atajurt had also propagandized the case of Sayragul Sautbay who later continued to change her testimony:

I knew about the trial through the efforts of a group called Atajurt, cofounded by Serikzhan Bilash, a Chinese-born ethnic Kazakh, one of more than 200,000 oralmandar, or ‘returnees’, now living in Kazakhstan. Atajurt was set up in 2017 with the purpose of defending the human rights of ethnic Kazakhs in Xinjiang. Sauytbay’s husband, an oralman who, like Bilash, was now a Kazakh citizen, had at first been reluctant to publicise her case, but Bilash persuaded him that foreign attention was her best hope. ‘We’ve never had a trial like this, open to the public, to foreign journalists,’ he told me on the steps outside the court. ‘This will show the world what is happening in Xinjiang.’

There is no information on who has financed the quite sizeable Atajurt. Kazakhstan has since shut the organization down and Serikzhan Bilash, its founder, has fled to Turkey. Tursunay Ziawudun also moved from Kazakhstan to Turkey before coming to the U.S.

Two weeks after her interview with Atajurt Tursunay Ziawudun was interviewed by the U.S. government controlled Radio Free Asia:

Authorities took Ziyawudun to an internment camp on April 11, 2017 without offering her or her family a reason, amid a rollout of a new policy of mass incarceration in the region, she said, although “the situation was not so severe, as it was only when they had just started arresting people” and she was released after one month, in part due to poor health.

Ziawudun was again detained in the following year:

However, Ziyawudun was unable to obtain a passport and could not join her husband in Kazakhstan, and on March 10, 2018 was again detained without reason.

This time, she said, the situation at the facility had become much worse, and many of the dozen women she shared quarters with endured poor treatment, including forced sterilization.

There is however no direct claim that she has been raped or observed raping. There is talk of rape in the interview but the claims are indirect, ambiguous and were prompted by the interviewer:

When asked about recent reports by former detainees of rape and other abuse in the XUAR camp system, Ziyawudun broke down.

“We were all helpless and unable to defend ourselves,” she said.

“We all went through all kinds of mistreatment, but even when we saw such abuse we were powerless to do anything about it.”

Camp officials would come in the middle of the night and take women away, she said.

“They would shout, ‘Get up and come with us,’ and after that, we would never see them again,” she said.

Well, could it be that those women were released?

A second interview with Tursunay Ziawudun was published by BuzzFeed News on February 15 2020:

Ziyawudun, 41, is one of just a handful of Uighur Muslims who have made it out of one of China’s now-notorious camps for Muslim minorities and gone abroad — to neighboring Kazakhstan.

After nearly 10 months locked up without ever being charged with a crime, Ziyawudun was released in December 2018. In Kazakhstan, Ziyawudun thought she was finally safe after months of nightmares, interrogations, and ritual humiliations at the hands of camp officials. Her long hair was lopped off, she was forced to watch endless hours of state propaganda on television, and every second of her life was filmed by security cameras. Each night, she had struggled to sleep, terrified she might be raped.

Her husband is a citizen of Kazakhstan, and she was initially granted a visa to stay. Things were looking up. But last year, she was given some terrible news — she must return to China to apply for a new type of Kazakh visa if she wanted to stay.

The Kazakh government says this is a procedural matter, but Ziyawudun knows that returning to China will likely mean she will be sent back to captivity.

Ziyawudun was detained twice. The first time was in April 2017:

[T]he police drove them to a place that they called a “vocational training school.” At the time, Ziyawudun was terrified — but in the context of the many worse things that followed, the facility now seems tame to her.

“To be honest, it wasn’t that bad,” she said. “We had our phones. We had meals in the canteens. Other than being forced to stay there, everything else was fine.”

In the evenings, the instructors taught the detainees to do traditional Chinese dances in the yard of the building, she said. Sometimes there were lectures — an imam working for the state might come in and talk about how important it was to avoid “extreme” practices like wearing headscarves.

Ziyawudun was released a few weeks later.

In March 2018 she was again detained in a reeducation facility. The conditions, she says, were harsher but not unbearable:

Nobody discussed rape in the camp. All conversations were monitored by guards or surveillance cameras. But it was on Ziyawudun’s mind all the time. If she were raped, she knew, there would be no one to tell about it, no place to report the crime. After all, she had landed in the camp because authorities felt she was “unreliable.” If one of the women were raped, who would believe them? She had never felt more vulnerable in her life.

The real torture, she discovered, took place in silence, in the inmates’ minds.

“I wasn’t beaten or abused,” she said. “The hardest part was mental. It’s something I can’t explain — you suffer mentally. Being kept someplace and forced to stay there for no reason. You have no freedom. You suffer.”

Ziyawudun was released in December 2018 and had since then lived in Kazakhstan. She eventual move to Turkey.

In September 2020 the U.S. based Uyghur Human Rights Project had picked her up to use her for their agitation against China:

Tursunay Ziyawudun, one of only a handful of Uyghur concentration camp survivors known to have reached the outside world, has arrived safely in the United States.

"We are tremendously relieved that Tursunay is now safe in the United States,” said UHRP Executive Director Omer Kanat. “UHRP warmly thanks governments who have rescued at-risk Uyghurs. Every rescue is a godsend.”

As one of the few people able to provide eyewitness testimony about what happens in the camps, Ms. Tursunay is a critical witness. She spent nine months in detention, where she suffered malnutrition, dehydration, forcible ingestion and injection of unknown drugs, and physical and mental torture. Her testimony will be vitally important for future atrocity-crimes determination processes and tribunals.

The Uyghur Human Rights Project will be assisting with Ms. Tursunay’s resettlement and is mounting an appeal to ensure that she receives immediate treatment for a serious health condition. Donations to help cover her living costs and medical treatment may be earmarked by sending a brief note.

Neither in her interview with Atajurt nor in her interviews with RFA or BuzzFeedNews does Tursunay Ziawudun claim she was raped. The Uyghur Human Rights Project report of her arrival In the U.S. says she had suffered from several forms of mistreatment but rape is not mentioned as one of them.

Like in the case of Sayragul Sautbay it is only months after she has received the appropriate coaching that Tursunay Ziawudun makes the outrageous rape claims. The BBC knows that these claims are likely bogus as it carefully notes:

It is impossible to verify Ziawudun's account completely because of the severe restrictions China places on reporters in the country, but travel documents and immigration records she provided to the BBC corroborate the timeline of her story.

The facts indeed corroborate the timeline, but they corroborate not one of the other claims Ziawudun makes.

There are many more details in Tursunay Ziawudun BBC story that differ from her previous accounts. Her "earrings were yanked out" where previously "Police told the women to take off their necklaces and earrings." In the BuzzFeed interview she said: “I wasn’t beaten or abused.” In her later BBC account she is beaten heavily:

"Police boots are very hard and heavy, so at first I thought he was beating me with something," she said. "Then I realised that he was trampling on my belly. I almost passed out – I felt a hot flush go through me."

Small details also differ. Where there previously was a bucket to pee in during the night there is now a hole in the ground.

Parts of what she tells the BBC seems to be from a bad porn script:

"They don't only rape but also bite all over your body, you don't know if they are human or animal," she said, pressing a tissue to her eyes to stop her tears and pausing for a long time to collect herself.

"They didn't spare any part of the body, they bit everywhere leaving horrible marks. It was disgusting to look at.

"I've experienced that three times. And it is not just one person who torments you, not just one predator. Each time they were two or three men."

The accounts of both women, Sayragul Sautbay and Tursunay Ziawudun, have 'evolved' after they have been handled through a chain of organizations set up to propagandize against China's anti-terror and development program in Xinjiang.

Like the Swedish organization which handled Sautbay, the U.S. based Uyghur Human Rights Project which handles Ziawudun is part of the infamous World Uyghur Congress:

As this investigation establishes, the WUC is not a grassroots movement, but a US government-backed umbrella for several Washington-based outfits that also rely heavily on US funding and direction. Today, it is the main face and voice of a separatist operation dedicated to destabilizing the Xinjiang region of China and ultimately toppling the Chinese government.

While seeking to orchestrate a color revolution with the aim of regime change in Beijing, the WUC and its offshoots have forged ties with the Grey Wolves, a far-right Turkish organization that has been actively engaged in sectarian violence from Syria to East Asia.

None of these links seem to have troubled the WUC’s sponsors in Washington. If anything, they have added to the network’s appeal, consolidating it as one of the most potent political weapons the US wields in its new Cold War against China.

The claims by the women of rape in the re-education camps in Xinjiang are as believable as the ones Nyirah al-Sabah made about babies allegedly thrown out of Kuwaiti incubators:

Her story was initially corroborated by Amnesty International, a British NGO, which published several independent reports about the killings and testimony from evacuees. Following the liberation of Kuwait, reporters were given access to the country. An ABC report found that "patients, including premature babies, did die, when many of Kuwait's nurses and doctors … fled" but Iraqi troops "almost certainly had not stolen hospital incubators and left hundreds of Kuwaiti babies to die." Amnesty International reacted by issuing a correction, with executive director John Healey subsequently accusing the Bush administration of "opportunistic manipulation of the international human rights movement".

Comments

Imperialism’s new mantra: “If you can’t get anything on them, then simply make shit up!” Unfortunately, that general strategy has been remarkably effective in certain contexts.

Posted by: Maracatu | Feb 4 2021 16:29 utc | 1

Once again, impressive reporting from b.
‘Uyghur oppression’ is just part of a dangerous anti-China narrative that most Westerners buy into without question. Just like the stories of babies thrown out of incubators before the first Iraq War. We must beware of such manipulation.
!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 4 2021 16:39 utc | 2

thanks b…. the story keeps on changing due whose hands the story gets into…. i agree with jackrabbit – impressive reporting from b..
“… a US government-backed umbrella for several Washington-based outfits that also rely heavily on US funding and direction. Today, it is the main face and voice of a separatist operation dedicated to destabilizing the Xinjiang region of China and ultimately toppling the Chinese government.”
once it gets in these types of organizations hands, it becomes pure unadulterated propaganda… unfortunately most people following the western msm – only see the end stories – and none of the earlier ones that would show just how bogus this propaganda is…

Posted by: james | Feb 4 2021 16:52 utc | 3

fantastic reporting by B.. what a website.. ??
Journalism at its finest.. Clearly the world needs an international court with jurisdiction to issue probable cause summons and with authority to hear cases, expose and punish providers of false and misleading content providers…
How can such a court be devised outside of the nation state system.? Establishing such a court needs to be an initiative of humanity <=not the nation state.. I would love to hear the Chinese government voice in this matter.. ? Any way to get an official statement.. an analysis.. Who and by what authority did China detain these people? What is the purpose.. how many have been processed (without incident) and released? Fantastic journalism.

Posted by: snake | Feb 4 2021 17:06 utc | 4

b asks: “Why Do These Uighur Witnesses’ Stories Constantly Change?”

Because there is a change of administration in Washington DC – they need to demonstrate their propaganda is better than the previous administration’s. Biden has promised his approach to China will be more “nuanced” than Trump’s. Human “rights” also supposedly played greater roles in Democrats than Republicans.
Readers already can sense this shift of “stories” from many troll commenters here in MoA. Just read them carefully – they will come to this article too.

Posted by: d dan | Feb 4 2021 17:28 utc | 5

Considering the USA has now declared to be above reality, it wouldn’t surprise me if their “reality czar” or the temporary equivalent (while they don’t create the office and nominate someone) decreed the Uighurs were now mass raped.

Posted by: vk | Feb 4 2021 17:36 utc | 6

@ Posted by: snake | Feb 4 2021 17:06 utc | 4

I would love to hear the Chinese government voice in this matter.. ? Any way to get an official statement.. an analysis.. Who and by what authority did China detain these people? What is the purpose.. how many have been processed (without incident) and released?

You’re kidding, right?
Just a quick search from the Global Times, recent:
Familiar names frequent behind lies of ‘Xinjiang women being raped’ (today – the replica against the subject of this post)
Seasonal workers in Xinjiang labeled by Western media as ‘forced labor’: Exclusive with French writer Maxime Vivas
Anatomical Analysis of The Independent Report about the “compulsory sterilization” and “genocide” of Uyghurs in Xinjiang by Adrian Zenz
China’s govt agencies condemn US over Xinjiang bill
China considers suing rumor-mongering researchers and think tanks for libel
China urged to take ‘stronger countermeasures’ against US’ Xinjiang bill
This one I specially recommend reading:
Full Text: Vocational Education and Training in Xinjiang (official text, by the The State Council Information Office of the People’s Republic of China)

Posted by: vk | Feb 4 2021 17:46 utc | 7

Thanks vk # 7 for those links. It is evident that no matter how many diplomats China takes to tour the ‘Re-Education Camps’, the narrative will continue being the same.

Posted by: Maracatu | Feb 4 2021 18:10 utc | 8

This propaganda is the crassest form of projection: nowhere are rapes more routine than in the massive US gulag with its dozens of different prison systems, private and public.
And so far as genocide is concerned this is a great deal more American than Apple Pie. It has been so successful that the number of indigenous nations within the US or its governmental reach has shrunk into tiny populations concentrated in the least eligible remnants of the land. And those populations are dying at twice the rate of the general population in the pandemic.
As to rape: white America wrote the book on it.
In every aspect of fascism the United States pioneered the way: the Black Hundreds in Russia modeled themselves on the Klan, and introduced the word ‘lynch’ into Russian parlance; Apartheid was consciously modeled on Segregation; the Nuremburg Laws were taken almost directly from Jim Crow jurisprudence.
One in every four prisoners on the planet is incarcerated by the US. And they are the unlucky ones whose fate is totally neglected by western NGOs, victims who are given no pulpits by the CIA- they are hidden in plain sight by the long standing mass hypocrisy of US society and its accomplices.
The plain truth is that when humanity begins to clean up the filth of arbitrary detentions, torture and genocide it will have to begin by addressing the cesspool laughingly called the “justice system’ in the United States.

Posted by: bevin | Feb 4 2021 18:10 utc | 9

Today, Global Times aims directly at the BBC’s lies: “BBC should show evidence or admit to rumormonger[ing].” We should all be very accustomed to this particular game since it’s been played for many decades now, going back to the early 1900s and the advent of Mass Propaganda which originated in the UK.
“Chinese scholars familiar with Xinjiang affairs, including those who live and work in Xinjiang, felt the accusations were preposterous when the Global Times asked them to comment. Such mass rapes and sexual assaults have no place in today’s China, and such collective audacity is unbelievable. The chance of such a crime being concealed is zero. Those who commit such evil crimes would have faced the intolerable risk of severe punishment or even death penality [sic], so no one in China would believe that the BBC’s allegations have any basis in fact.” [My Emphasis]
Unfortunately, China isn’t the target for the propaganda–all English speakers/readers are globally–in an attempt to raise anger against China, not merely hatred–Anger gets people riled up to go to war while mere hatred doesn’t, as Romanoff describes well here.
“It is hoped that media professionals of the BBC and other Western outlets who made up the “Xinjiang myth” can stop moral narcissism. It is hoped that they can be brave enough to break the iron curtain forged by themselves and politicians, and regain the basic qualities of a media professional: to be objective and seek truth from facts.”
Somebody needs to tell the Chinese that what’s being done is preparing the English speaking public for war against China–even Nuclear War since China is a genocidal nation and cannot be allowed to perform any more harm. This is the ultimate end of R2P that was used to destroy Libya. As I commented on the open thread, the Outlaw US Empire will use all its tools to keep its dollar hegemony.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 4 2021 18:25 utc | 10

One of the real problems in the 21st Century is knowing what to believe.
The amount of time that I spend – just trying to get a grip on what is going on – is ungodly.
Having traveled in China and having seen how well minorities are treated in China, I have doubted the American media Uighur story from day one.
Could I be wrong about what is going on in Xinjiang?
Of course.
But on the other hand, I know that American media outlets are pathological liars.
It is just like I said, it is so hard these days to figure out just what is going on.

Posted by: Mike from Jersey | Feb 4 2021 18:27 utc | 11

This is the information/soft war side to the increasing concentration of western military assets into the south western Pacific region. The BBC makes broad claims of genocide directed towards the PRC leadership, while simultaneously the UK prepares its aircraft carrier for service in that area. This will be supporting the US as it prepares naval assets in anticipation of a friendly government bent on confrontation with China regaining power in Phillipines next year. The effort to wean Taiwan as an independent state will continue, as vassals (such as Guyana) are encouraged to establish “state-to-state” relationships with the island.

Posted by: jayc | Feb 4 2021 18:34 utc | 12

There is low hanging fruit in these indirection mechanisms: A encourages B to make things up. C acts very trusting towards B. D acts very trusting towards D. Low risk. The Flemish press is already copying the whole BBC reporting.
Mainstream media is defined by whom they consider trustworthy and whom not. You know they’ll trust these reports. The people behind the reports also know it.
Bernhard also knows it and has a briefing ready before I’ve even had the time to read the original reporting 🙂

Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Feb 4 2021 18:38 utc | 13

@B: Amazing work – again – on the Uighur propaganda machine!
Even though i was quite harsh on the last 2 pieces, this is why i have waited every day for many, many years now for you to submit your daily post. It is always a highlight of my day, and likely always will be, even though i in rare cases dont agree.
One constant in my life and likely of many other barflies, no matter the crazy times!

Posted by: DontBelieveEitherPr. | Feb 4 2021 19:21 utc | 14

I linked to Lavrov’s comments related to the West’s Navalny related media distortions at yesterday’s presser on the open thread and deliberately omitted the keenness of his reply and the surprise it contained. But I see this thread is also about propaganda, and what Lavrov had to say is quite appropriate. What follows is what I omitted:
“Sergey Lavrov: I’d say that the West presents very specific, one-sided coverage of not only the events linked with Alexei Navalny but also everything that is taking place in Russia. The hysteria caused by his trial is out of proportion. The public is not told that the regulations for holding demonstrations, rallies and protests are much tougher in the West than in Russia. The police in the West have the right to curb any assembly that is not authorised or notified of in advance, or, if a notification was submitted, violate the procedures for holding it as agreed with the authorities. If demonstrators in Germany, France, the US or other Western countries take to the streets and prevent the normal functioning of transport, they can face several years in prison, huge fines and other penalties. The police are much tougher with them than our law-enforcement bodies as regards participating in illegal actions.
“Coverage of these actions in Russia and actions by opposition leaders in the West is also based on double standards. When they show events in Russia, the focus is on the police response to the behaviour of the demonstrators. The latter’s actions are not shown at all, although looking at the footage on the internet, it is easy to see how aggressive those who took part in illegal actions were in Moscow and other Russian cities in the past few days. When the Western media cover similar events at home, they usually show outrageous behaviour by demonstrators like broken shop windows and cars on fire, but not the cruelty of the police. This applies to the footage of a police car driving over the bodies of demonstrators lying on the asphalt. As a rule, such footage is kept behind the scenes and can only be found on social media.
“To have this discussion (if the West is interested) along the lines of common sense and facts (the West is reluctant to discuss facts), we have prepared a video on how illegal actions are held and suppressed in the West and how our police reacted to the excesses of demonstrators during the recent events. Yesterday, we handed over this video to Foreign Minister of Sweden Ann Linde who is also the OSCE Chairperson-in-Office. Today, I sent the same video to Josep Borrell, High Representative of the EU for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy. We want him to see the objective picture based on specific facts from both sides rather than groundless accusations as he prepares for his visit to Moscow on Friday. Unfortunately, our Western colleagues have become used to such accusations, whether it’s the Skripal case or the so-called Navalny ‘poisoning’ or the events related to his arrest and yesterday’s court verdict.” [My Emphasis]
Will Linde and Borrell actually view the video evidence provided or chuck it into the dustbin? My cynicism says they’ll chuck it because they have no other choice as they’ve been ordered to lie.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 4 2021 19:57 utc | 15

As an unnamed, but likely neocon, official from the George W. Bush administration stated 16 years ago in 2004: “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality.”
That was just after the US had brutally “shock-and-awe” invaded Iraq in 2003 on the basis of completely fabricated WMDs claims and the earlier Kuwaiti-babies-thrown-from-incubators story.
US Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson who happened to be chief of staff to US Secretary of State Colin Powell when the US invaded Iraq, and Afghanistan before that, states in this 2018 talk on YouTube that the US military will be in Afghanistan for the next 50 years so that the US can disrupt China’s Belt and Road Initiative near its starting point in Xinjiang, and so that the US can exploit the Uyghur minority to destabilize China.
Our establishment media will, as one, propagate the narrative, as they did the WMD claims in 2003, the Kuwaiti babies story in 1990, the Viagra-rape claims in Libya in 2011, etc. Of course, at the very same time as the establishment media attentively fans the flames of outrage over unsubstantiated/baseless claims about China’s treatment of its Muslim Uighur minority, they completely ignore Israel’s far, far more substantiated/documented decades-long mistreatment of its Muslim ethnic minorities. The hypocrisy is blatant and Orwellian.
As Caitlin Johnstone recently wrote: “Everything about life in our current world order is dominated by phoniness. Our culture is manufactured by Hollywood. Our dominating political structure is manufactured by think tanks. Our perceptions of what’s going on in the world are manufactured in Langley and Arlington.”

Posted by: Canadian Cents | Feb 4 2021 20:07 utc | 16

Why Do Uighur Witnesses’ Stories Constantly Change?
Good question. It’s anyone’s guess but this might get the ball rolling..
1. The original lies were probably intended to make China sound more Evil than the Christian Colonial West. But stories of un-ease and/or being detained outside one’s comfort zone, tend to sound insignificant in comparison with Guantanomo-ing, Waterboard-ing and Assange-ing, to which one could add a plethora of similar HR breaches justified by the democratic (cough, cough) West.
2. Then there’s the question of which rocks one peeks beneath to find & recruit people of the ‘right calibre’ to be trusted with the important task of making up pro-democracy, anti-China tosh?
3. Do they have to fail an IQ test, a Sanity test, or a Maturity test to qualify?
4. Are the consumers of such tosh expected to deduce that our Glorious Leaders have discovered that the Uighur problem is far worse than “we” originally suspected?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 4 2021 20:12 utc | 17

Every time Washington opens its mouth it tells a lie:
https://fair.org/home/jumping-on-the-hezbollah-narcoterrorism-bandwagon/

Posted by: bevin | Feb 4 2021 21:57 utc | 18

One of the Rules of Propaganda is “Demonize the Enemy.” When this has been successfully achieved upon the targeted population, They will believe any subsequent claims no matter how absurd they may be!

Posted by: DickNOz | Feb 4 2021 21:59 utc | 19

@11 Mike from Jersey – it is so hard these days to figure out just what is going on
Agreed about the hours involved in figuring out many of the details, but the overall context is straightforward enough:
1. It’s a war of the rich against the poor. The rich create the poor by stealing from them. They own the narrative that distorts all of this, and they own the system that makes it happen. Now the entire system is threatened with planetary resource depletion, it makes sense to the rich for billions of the poor to cease being consumers, and the simplest way for this to happen is for billions of the poor to cease being. They own the narrative that distorts all this, and they own the system that makes it happen.
2. Fortunately, revolutionaries through time have shown that one can fight back against all this. China and some other countries have institutionalized this fight, and are building a different world.
Did I miss anything?

Posted by: Grieved | Feb 4 2021 22:00 utc | 20

Her long hair was lopped off, she was forced to watch endless hours of state propaganda on television, and every second of her life was filmed by security cameras. Each night, she had struggled to sleep, terrified she might be raped.

Oh, BuzzFeed) This is amazing. It’s like reading lines from the script of a Hollywood action movie about the heroine’s life in a “totalitarian camp” (of course, somewhere in China, Russia, or Iraq), from where she was then effectively rescued by a brave American marine who successfully repelled the attacks of hundreds of enemy soldiers.
However, the BuzzFeed propagandists could have done better to impress their readers even more. I added in parentheses how it should have been:
Her [beautiful] long hair was lopped off [by a sneaky communist hairdresser in a gray dust tunic], [sitting in a damp basement in front of a huge screen at gunpoint] she was forced to watch endless hours of state propaganda on television [, even small children were forced to watch and those who dared to turn away from the screen were subject to immediate execution], and every second of her life was filmed by security cameras [placed even in the toilet and shower – sadistic guards masturbated while watching Ziyawudun’s life, and the total control system did not even allow her to cough without remaining unnoticed]. Each night [, listening to the loud footsteps of the ruthless guards in the corridor of the prison barrack], she had struggled to sleep, terrified she might be raped [and no one will hear her desperate pleas for help].
It’s better that way, isn’t it?

Posted by: alaff | Feb 4 2021 22:12 utc | 21