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February 17, 2021
Open Thread 2021-014
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I’ll come back when people more informed than I post some great links. Posted by: jo6pac | Feb 17 2021 16:12 utc | 1 Soaring EU-Xinjiang trade in textile machinery, tomatoes piles pressure on Brussels to act on alleged forced labour Winter storm kills at least 17 people, millions still without power in frigid Texas Colombia Reports: Colombia’s far-right government sunk in an even deeper legal and diplomatic crisis on Sunday after bungling an attempt to meddle in Ecuador’s presidential elections. Mafia puppet president Ivan Duque had already isolated himself after his far-right Democratic Center party meddled in the US presidential election in November last year in opposition of President Joe Biden. Posted by: Maracatu | Feb 17 2021 16:50 utc | 4 Rush Limbaugh dies; If there is justice in the universe, and reincarnation is a reality, Rush will reincarnate as a poor black child, in a red state, down in the South. Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 17 2021 17:53 utc | 5 This could have gone on the previous thread, Posted by: librul | Feb 17 2021 18:21 utc | 6 vetinLA @5– A saying in Donbass, something along the lines: Posted by: Abe | Feb 17 2021 18:39 utc | 8 Interesting read by F William Engdahl about whom and what lies behind the agricultural reforms being pushed by Modi in India: Modi Shock Therapy The WEF Agenda Behind Modi Farm Reform Posted by: Down South | Feb 17 2021 18:43 utc | 9 re: that scoundrel Limbaugh’s death: Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 17 2021 18:45 utc | 10 powerful people design and implement a secret effort . Posted by: snake | Feb 17 2021 19:00 utc | 11 We have several commentators and who knows how many readers living in Texas some of whom are living through a debacle on such a grand scale that led the authors of this news report to call Texas a “Failed State” all due to its deregulation fetish: Look at how those evil communist dictators from Russia, Venezuela, Cuba and China treat their own citizens! Like if they were disposable! Re post nr. 9 by Down South Posted by: JB | Feb 17 2021 19:24 utc | 14 Marcatau #4 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 17 2021 19:29 utc | 15 Just when I thought (again) that they couldn’t possibly sink any lower, I find that the US and its allies are allegedly committing widespread grain theft and crop destruction in Syria. Posted by: farm ecologist | Feb 17 2021 19:33 utc | 16 The Australians might find some bunya nuts to eat. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 17 2021 19:37 utc | 17 Re: karlof1 | Feb 17 2021 19:01 utc | 12 Posted by: gm | Feb 17 2021 19:41 utc | 18 Rush’s obnoxious pronouncements might have been more tolerable if he had been sincere, but there were gaping inconsistencies between what he insisted of others vs what he did himself. Posted by: farm ecologist | Feb 17 2021 19:59 utc | 19 Another excellent example of the vast differences in the system of governance between Russia and the Outlaw US Empire is presented by This conference between Putin and State Duma party faction leaders: “LDPR faction leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky, Communist Party faction leader Gennady Zyuganov, leader of A Just Russia faction Sergei Mironov and leader of the United Russia faction Sergei Neverov, as well as State Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin and First Deputy Chief of Staff of the Presidential Executive Office Sergei Kiriyenko.” Thanks Down South @9 on Modi’s agri-reforms. The closer one looks at this the more its global significance emerges. The effect will be to enclose land currently being worked by the poor peasantry. Given that enclosure will transform those farmers into landless proletarians will we see a rise in industrial exploitation of India’s workers by Western capital? Is India being prepared to take the place China held as global manufacturing’s supply of cheap labour? Dislodging primary producers from land has been a hallmark of capitalism historically since labour can only become abstracted when it has been evicted from networks of embedded exchange like subsistence agriculture (which includes social identity, religion, local economies, etc). It will sink India’s agricultural poor into a yet deeper circle of hell. But India is not China. It will stoke revolutionary volatility in south Asia. Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 17 2021 20:06 utc | 21 Putin’s response to the Duma Speaker is worth citing fully. Too bad so few will read his words: I love to read Chris Hedges whenever I can. Here’s a bit from his recent essay on the new and dangerous ‘Cancel Culture’ – which has become a rather effective and ‘liberal’ elitist weapon against, among others, those who criticize Israel, as well as against many radicals, and Wikileaks…. Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 17 2021 20:33 utc | 23 The last outstanding nugget from Putin’s conference is an admission by Putin of his political-economic philosophy made during his reply to the Communist Party’s Gennady Zyuganov: Chris Hedges, Just talkin’ ’bout revolution [against the Borg? Chris can’t quite bring himself to name just who “they” are] on Jimmy Dore yesterday: Posted by: gm | Feb 17 2021 20:56 utc | 25 Posted by: Maracatu | Feb 17 2021 16:50 utc | 4 Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 17 2021 21:36 utc | 26 @ karlof1 with the rants Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 17 2021 21:37 utc | 27 re @karlof1 Posted by: Hoyeru | Feb 17 2021 21:38 utc | 28 Do you think the state of Alaska might one day ask to be Russian again? Posted by: passerby | Feb 17 2021 21:41 utc | 29 Astonishing lack of understanding of history, basic humanity and common sense. Posted by: CJ | Feb 17 2021 21:42 utc | 30 Just reading at The Register that the semiconductor plants in Texas are doing too well and maybe Samsung won’t build their $20 billion dollar plant there…… Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 17 2021 21:49 utc | 31 Dishonest translations serving as propaganda weapons for the West against China: I hope everyone understands that the user with the moniker Hoyeru is a troll and as such gets no response from me for its deliberate lies and slanders. karlof1 | Feb 17 2021 19:01 utc | 12 Posted by: vinnieoh | Feb 17 2021 22:12 utc | 34 Wanna’ know who the “deep state” folks are? peruse this: Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 17 2021 22:16 utc | 35 gm@ 18 Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 17 2021 22:20 utc | 36 Thierry Meyssan: Posted by: Mario | Feb 17 2021 22:37 utc | 37 @36: It could be worse. You could own an electric car. Posted by: passerby | Feb 17 2021 22:38 utc | 38 psychohistorian @27– Do you think the state of Alaska might one day ask to be Russian again? Posted by: tucenz | Feb 17 2021 22:47 utc | 40 vinnieoh @34– karlof1 | Feb 17 2021 22:59 utc | 41 Posted by: vinnieoh | Feb 17 2021 23:08 utc | 42 Have only heard of Thierry Meyssan at MoA, but only a shameless liar or a witless fool thinks the Truman/Eisenhower Red Scare was nothing compared to this “witch hunt.” Hundreds of people were dismissed from government losing their clearances, which impaired *any* employment whatsoever. Labor unions were purged. Hundreds were deported, or attempted to deport, including a major union leader, Harry Bridges, detested for leading a great longshoremen’s strike. for God’s sakes, dozens or maybe even hundreds of mere actors, writers and directors were blacklisted in Hollywood, as if they were meances. Whether this Meyssan is an original scumbag or a mere stenographer for propagandists is irrelevant. This is epic nonsense that should shame him irreparably. Posted by: steven t johnson | Feb 17 2021 23:10 utc | 43 I wonder what our Aussie barflies have to say about this: re karlof1 #46 Posted by: Debsisdead | Feb 17 2021 23:41 utc | 45 Debsisdead @47– I guess many will have noticed corporate media’s latest kabuki Biden has sidelined MBS. Posted by: Debsisdead | Feb 18 2021 0:01 utc | 47 @ oldhippie | Feb 17 2021 22:20 utc | 36 Posted by: gm | Feb 18 2021 0:08 utc | 48 i don’t know that natural gas is all that clean.. i think that is incorrect actually… Posted by: james | Feb 18 2021 0:42 utc | 49 @36 oldhippie Posted by: Grieved | Feb 18 2021 0:45 utc | 50 On the semiconductor front, another punch to the gut of the US semiconductor industry this time delivered by the recent Texas cold snap:
LONG SEMI STOCKS!!! Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 18 2021 0:49 utc | 51 @ 52 grieved.. here is a quote from your post on the other thread… Posted by: james | Feb 18 2021 1:17 utc | 52 RE: “i don’t know that natural gas is all that clean.. i think that is incorrect actually…” Posted by: gm | Feb 18 2021 1:18 utc | 53 Despite being asked to leave a year ago, NATO is preparing to greatly expand its presence in Iraq to upwards of 5000 troops, reporters for Reuters were told on eve of NATO meet. (previous commitment: 500 troops) Posted by: jayc | Feb 18 2021 1:20 utc | 54 @ gm.. not as good as electric though, once you have the dam built… other options are better… Posted by: james | Feb 18 2021 1:22 utc | 55 @james | Feb 18 2021 1:22 utc | 57 Posted by: gm | Feb 18 2021 1:30 utc | 56 gm @50– @ gm… i didn’t realize we were only talking texas.. Posted by: james | Feb 18 2021 1:51 utc | 58 A good recap of the current situation with regards to silver. Hang on to your seats folks.. Posted by: Lozion | Feb 18 2021 1:59 utc | 59 pat langs new website in case anyone missed it and wants to know… Posted by: james | Feb 18 2021 1:59 utc | 60 Texas Could Have Kept the Lights On Thom Hartmann podcast on the Texas SNAFU; Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 18 2021 2:27 utc | 62 Thanks @ Karlof1 for refuting @ gm’s falsehoods and misconceptions with facts. The myth of “grand solar minimum” has been dispelled https://skepticalscience.com/grand-solar-minimum-mini-ice-age.htm Posted by: norecovery | Feb 18 2021 2:29 utc | 63 @Posted by: james | Feb 18 2021 1:59 utc | 62 Posted by: librul | Feb 18 2021 2:29 utc | 64 @54 james Posted by: Grieved | Feb 18 2021 2:29 utc | 65 James @54 & Grieved @67– Posted by: norecovery | Feb 18 2021 2:44 utc | 66 In the ‘rule based democrazies’.
Posted by: denk | Feb 18 2021 2:52 utc | 67 World News Posted by: denk | Feb 18 2021 3:02 utc | 68 Evgeny Prigozhin:
https://t.me/evgeny_prigozhin/13 Posted by: Mao | Feb 18 2021 3:06 utc | 69 @ 66 librul…. not that i know of.. i think it just means more independence and not beholden to typepad format mostly.. could be more.. if i find out more, i’ll let you know.. Posted by: james | Feb 18 2021 4:21 utc | 70 @28 Hoyeru Posted by: Den lille abe | Feb 18 2021 4:38 utc | 71 @ 59 karlof1 Posted by: Den lille abe | Feb 18 2021 4:53 utc | 72 re Lozion @ # 61 Posted by: Debsisdead | Feb 18 2021 4:55 utc | 73 The ONLY thing that has changed between 2014 and now is back then Putin was frozen with fear and couldn’t act when West stole Ukraine because he was afraid his rich buddies will be hit with sanctions. the West knew that VERY WELL and played him good, stealing ukraine right under his nose. Putin inactions made them even more insolent and brazen, they began to simply lie and invent fake scenarios(Skirpal pozoning) and he still couldn’t and wouldn’t do anything due to fear of sanctions. So we get 2021 when they(West) can openly troll him and he now knows that no matter what he does or doesnt do, they will put more sanctions on RUssia anytime they feel like it. lavrov wants to stop talking to the West and shut down Russia to the West? thats exactly what the West whats them to do. No more technology for YOU, Russia! Let’s see if that makes him act. Posted by: Dr. George W Oprisko | Feb 18 2021 5:04 utc | 74 Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 17 2021 22:20 utc | 36 Posted by: _K_C_ | Feb 18 2021 5:07 utc | 75 Posted by: gm | Feb 18 2021 1:30 utc | 58
In 2009, the Amistad Dam plants produced a total of 296,734,000 kilowatt hours. Posted by: _K_C_ | Feb 18 2021 5:28 utc | 76 When somebody says “we need to ice him!” I now know what it means. Posted by: Den lille abe | Feb 18 2021 5:56 utc | 77 Den lille abe @ 74 Posted by: norecovery | Feb 18 2021 5:56 utc | 78 Correction to my earlier post. When I left Texas in 2016 they did in fact get about 15-20% of their power from wind. I guess it’s gone up to 33% now. Posted by: _K_C_ | Feb 18 2021 6:09 utc | 79 @james | Feb 18 2021 0:42 utc | 51
What exactly do you mean by saying natural gas is “not clean”? By which criteria do you measure cleanliness? Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 18 2021 6:53 utc | 80 god, does anyone read Pat Lang’s website/blog anymore? I can’t stand how conservative most of those people over there are. Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 18 2021 6:58 utc | 81 This looks like a good time to discuss mixed economies. In this case we are going to show different mixed economies within the US. Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 18 2021 7:01 utc | 82 @karlof1 | Feb 18 2021 1:37 utc | 59
I am sorry, but this is politicized an non-scientific nonsense. In science there are 3 categories of hypotheses: “plausible”, “wrong”, and “not even wrong”. The 2 first play an important role in progressing real science, hypotheses that are proven wrong (i.e. scientifically falsified) play an important as they help define the limits of scientific knowledge and push plausible hypotheses forward. Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 18 2021 7:49 utc | 83 @7 karlof Posted by: m | Feb 18 2021 8:16 utc | 84 Cheers to all bar flies, lot of interesting stuff going on here while I sleep. I’ll be brief: Posted by: Paco | Feb 18 2021 8:21 utc | 85 @ karlof1
Putin is speaking to Zyuganov, a communist. Posted by: Smith | Feb 18 2021 8:34 utc | 86 _K_C_ | Feb 18 2021 5:28 utc | 78 Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 18 2021 8:44 utc | 87 Norwegian | Feb 18 2021 7:49 utc | 85 Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 18 2021 9:18 utc | 88 “Minimum to be reached by 2025”. Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 18 2021 9:40 utc | 89 NATO today is not a military alliance anymore. It is mutual non-agression pact and a military standardisation office. Posted by: Perimeter | Feb 18 2021 9:56 utc | 90 Climate science is a simple science, basic physics…no amount of word salad will change that. The planet is getting warmer as a result of greenhouse gases, and will continue to get warmer at an increasing rate regardless of the this “climate cycle” or that “Maunder Minimum”. Those cycles have all been accounted for in the models, people act like climate scientists haven’t taken science classes past high school. Posted by: Jason | Feb 18 2021 10:00 utc | 91 It looks like Germany’s renewable power generation has collapsed. Posted by: Passer by | Feb 18 2021 10:01 utc | 92 Greenies parties in Western Europe have always been headcases, they are against fossil fuel, they are also against nuclear power, and now they are against importing gas from Russia. Posted by: Smith | Feb 18 2021 10:14 utc | 93 m #86 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 18 2021 10:21 utc | 94 uncle tungsten | Feb 18 2021 10:21 utc | 96 Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 18 2021 10:36 utc | 95 psychohistorian @ 84 Posted by: Down South | Feb 18 2021 10:54 utc | 96 Re: Rush Limbaugh: If Rush Limbaugh hadn’t rattled their cage, Republicans would never have given up being losers. To this day GOP prefers to lose. Until 1994, Democrats had controlled the House for 40 straight years. From 1955-1980, (25 years) Democrats controlled both the House and Senate.…To this day, the Republican Establishment is much happier in the minority. In Nov. 2018, the GOP left 38 U.S. House races empty, no Republican on the ballot. Only 3 races lacked a Democrat candidate. In case anyone asks you. Posted by: susan mullen | Feb 18 2021 10:56 utc | 97 Bad SOE can be fixed and re-structured by a just government. Posted by: Smith | Feb 18 2021 11:17 utc | 98 FWIW Posted by: Dogon Priest | Feb 18 2021 11:32 utc | 99 To the ones who believed this pandemic is “fake news”:
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