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February 03, 2021

Open Thread 2021-010

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@Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 3 2021 22:21 utc | 57

”But in the realm where retreat is actually the best policy move, what we get is yet another doubling-down to try and accomplish the now impossible goal of Full Spectrum Dominance, while the domestic population gets subdued by the BigTech Boot.”

It appears to be institutional, structural, buoyed by delusional myths about a liberal international order of democracy, tolerance and just law. The USG war machine can not continue on without the US $ as the global reserve currency. The unacknowledged central planning mechanism of the USA, the finance sector, the irony, is intricately tied to the MIC. So imo the fiat money printers will continue to print until collapse, catastrophe or wisdom arises. As many have said, never underestimate human stupidity, so the last is a long shot.

US neoliberal predation is outward and increasingly inward (the end of social imperialism), accelerated by the pandemic, threatening sovereign countries and bankrupting states and municipalities at home. Why does Congress still refuse to fund the states? Ask the central planners, the rentiers — the better to eat you little ones.

When neoliberalism is finally hoisted by its own petard, there’ll finally be more space for people to recreate the world anew, but with increased global warming arctic methane clathrate burps threaten catastrophe of low oxygen levels in oceans and air, so the hoisting must occur sooner, not later.

Posted by: suzan | Feb 4 2021 5:38 utc | 101

Here is a tip for all the old car restorers above: replace all rubber brake lines, resovior, master cylinder and wheel cylinders then use silicon brake fluid, bleed heavily to remove all the old fluid. I own a 1961 VW which is 95% restored. Parts are easy to buy. I changed the brakes more than seven years ago and they are still as good today. Silicon brake fluid is not hygroscopic so no pitting. More economic in the long run. Racing motorcycles use silicon fluid for a variety of reasons.

Posted by: Paul | Feb 4 2021 5:53 utc | 102

Arguments about whether state capitalism can beat pure elite capitalism are pointless. Both of these models are infinitely worse than socialism where productivity and all decisions around it is in the control of the actual producers, the actual blokes & blokettes producing whatever they do.

In the end as far as both the producers and the population of the nation concerned they don't give a flying f#ck whether the smarmy shiny arsed suit making damn stupid decisions claims to work for 'Private Equity' or 'The State' the result is inevitably similar - that is whatever suits the suits wherever it is that they hang out - which always somewhere far away from the blokes & blokettes.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Feb 4 2021 6:23 utc | 103

From Virology Journal 2005 - Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread

Seemed to work back in 2005 but now it is a deadly poison...

Also Study finds 84% fewer hospitalizations ...... hydroxychloroquine

Re: VK - back in April 2020 he was the all knowing expert on HCQ (and everything else)-
Posted by: vk | Apr 14 2020 19:03 utc | 14
"hydroxycloroquine is not a viable treatment"

I think most of us can remember Didier Raoult & his treatment by the French Gov. & main stream media.

Of course our resident 'Marxist' shill for big pharma, along with 'Parisian Guy', were fully on board with this.

I wrote at the time-
"When a pre-eminent scientist such as Dr. Didier Raoult gets pilloried in the press at the behest of politicians and big pharma, you know instinctively that something stinks. Macron has that slimy, smug aura of superiority a "
Comment by ted01 | March 27, 2020 at 08:29 |

Posted by: ted01 | Feb 4 2021 6:35 utc | 104

@ Debsisdead | Feb 4 2021 6:23 utc | 103 who wrote
Arguments about whether state capitalism can beat pure elite capitalism are pointless.
Why can't we have state socialism where the actual blokes & blokettes producing whatever they do tell the state "suits" what sort of mixed economy they want?

I agree that we have state capitalism mostly now because them elite folks own the state folks.....we need to take the punch bowl (private finance) away from the elite....and build a state that we can trust with the punch bowl.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 4 2021 6:43 utc | 105

Appropriate title of Trump's next book: I came, I saw, covfefe.
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 3 2021 17:37 utc | 4

I came, I saw, I got swamped!

Posted by: BM | Feb 4 2021 7:08 utc | 106

The Afghan Taliban have made a startling revelation that the United States forces in Afghanistan were involved in transporting Da’ish militants into the war-torn country through their helicopters.

Senior members of Taliban, who are currently on a visit to Iran to discuss the peace process, made the statement at a news conference in Tehran on Tuesday, according to Iranian Press TV.

They went on to add that the US forces were also helping the Islamic State militants escape the areas under the Taliban’s control.

Blaming the American forces for the recent uptick in violence in the country, the leaders said the US had defaulted on the terms agreed during the agreement in February and resumed the attacks.

Posted by: Mao | Feb 4 2021 7:22 utc | 107

The former director of the CIA's counterterrorism operation argues that counterinsurgency tactics, like those used in Afghanistan and Iraq, are needed to fight the extremists who stormed the Capitol.

Posted by: Mao | Feb 4 2021 7:25 utc | 108

Ecuadorians demand return to leftist Citizens' Revolution on eve of election

Posted by: Mao | Feb 4 2021 7:29 utc | 109

In case no one has already posted this, Brigadier Farooq Ali, or FB Ali as he identified himaelf here, who contributed to this site for many years, has died aged 92.

He had great insight into the Middle East and military affairs.

There is a thread to remember him over at Colonel Lang's "Sic Semper Tyrannis"

Posted by: johnf | Feb 4 2021 7:57 utc | 110

Another mediocre functionary of the empire, Susan Rice, has been put in charge of domestic policy, not a promising outlook for the people.
Posted by: suzan | Feb 3 2021 21:43 utc | 51

Isnt Susan Rice more an expert on genociding and exploiting foreign countries? That is no doubt why she is selected now for domestic policy.

Posted by: BM | Feb 4 2021 8:05 utc | 111

re psychohistorian # 105
Sorry bloke for me you miss the point. As long as we the individual humans continue to entrust decisions to some person far removed from the consequences of the decisions he/she makes, ordinary peeps will continue to be screwed over.
The 20th century was all about centralisation of control and that is why all 20th century revolutions have failed.
Not only the capitalists centralised so did the USSR's Moscow bureaucrats and China's beijing officials.

All issues are considered in terms of the total population instead of acknowledging that all issues are local. Let the locals everywhere sort stuff out and then locals everywhere will be content.
Will they make errors? Sure but since any mistakes are confined to a local level whatever bad decisions made (which will be less since the decision-makers will be more knowledgeable of what is involved than any capital city dilettante), the effects will be local too.

Top down driven socialism can never be effective or efficient, just as any top down driven structure will be.

Enterprises driven from the bottom up will always be more effective since everyone effected is involved in the decision.
It is a furphy to claim that they don't get the bigger picture as I'm sure you know from yer own interactions with normal decent humans that they are far more receptive to the needs of others than any here today, gone tomorrow careerist type.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Feb 4 2021 8:40 utc | 112

james #86

article up today on michael hudsons website...

At the Oxford Economics Society

you stirred up a hornets nest vk, lol...

Thank you James, that is one extremely lucid address by Michael Hudson. This world is so lucky to have his voice and his delightful mind applied to the greatest threat to our humanity. He comes from a long heritage of economic inquirers and thinkers and he gives credit to all the classical economists and their efforts to build a world as if people mattered.

The specific point on infrastructure investment was just clear and concise.

I was intrigued by his concluding remark:

The 19th century was really the golden age of industrial capitalism. Countries wanted to invest to make a profit. They didn’t want to invest in dismantling an existing industry, because there wasn’t much industry to dismantle. They wanted to make profit by creating industry. There was a lot of investment in infrastructure, and it almost always lost money. For instance, there was recently a criticism of China saying, “Doesn’t China know that the Panama Canal went bankrupt again and again, and that all the investments in canals and the railroads all went broke again and again?” Of course China knows that. The idea is that you make investment not to make a profit on basic large infrastructure. The 19th century was basically inter-state lending, inter-governmental lending, public sector lending. That’s where the money was made. The late 20th century was one of financialization, dismantling the industry that was already in place, not lending to create industry to make a profit. It’s asset-stripping, not profit-seeking.[my emphasis]

No wonder the short sellers of GameStop had a frantic dummy spit when the people did a good samaritan and invested in a good stock: The people gamed the Game. The people squeezed the vulture until it shat rocks, and then they kept the squeeze on. If lightening revenge attacks on short selling scumbags can be made a routine then there may be change. Guerrilla warfare on Wall Street.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 4 2021 9:20 utc | 113

NathanMulcahy #94

Absolutely brother, think germanium diode. It replaced a crystal rock and then some clever thinker conceived of a three terminal junction and called it a transistor...

The dismissal of natural products as having multiple benefits for people is exemplified in the opium poppy, the wormwood plant, the hemp plant, the boring little golden mushroom, the hop plant.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 4 2021 9:30 utc | 114

I think the "full-stop" summary is that the Putin-Xi axis has moved on.

"Containment" is no longer relevant in a world where an "unsinkable continent wide aircraft carrier" has supplanted sea lane control. Eurasia is now an on the ground reality for those countries that are physically connected to it. The US are still trying to dominate a space that they cannot access. They may cause a slow down in certain areas/countries, but the overall effect is only temporary.

"Finance". What is a derivative, stock or share worth if the "money" of exchange is worthless? Trillions of what?

"Population control"; I suspect that one of the objects of the "reset" is to make the populations of the US and EU, behave as they imagine the Chinese do. ie, transform us into coolies for the use of the "semi-gawds". This is why "debt" is to be forced on the plebs and our assets removed. The middle class is to be eliminated to stop any idea of "upward mobility", to ensure inequality reigns supreme.

"Production and supply"; What do you want me to say about that? They have now got both, without the US being involved or capable of anything but more "sanctions".

"Sanctions"; There are millions (literally) starving, dying from lack of medecines, displaced and thrown into "camps" to die, or being systematically brutalised. Other countries can see what is happening and see the obsession with which the "semi-gawds" suppress those they wish to plunder - and they will draw their own conclusions. Then act, or the people will have to change the puppets and then act for themselves.

"Overall" I seee the speeches of both Putin and Xi as "we no longer need you", (but you will come to need us ?)

Open question for today (to lighten the tone)

How many masks does it take to cover all the different faces of flip-flop Fauci?

(How can anyone still believe him? He gave money to Wuhan and was there at the set-up. I wonder what his position is today?)

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 4 2021 9:45 utc | 115

funny to read here and there that the cases were dropping down by end of november...almost everywhere

Posted by: Mina | Feb 4 2021 9:48 utc | 116

Cuba aims to immunise its population this year with its own coronavirus vaccine

Cuba is aiming to vaccinate its population this year with its own vaccine, which would be the first developed in Latin America.

The country claims it can make 100 million doses of Soberana 2, its most advanced vaccine candidate, in 2021.

"If all goes well, this year the entire Cuban population will be vaccinated,” said Dr Vicente Vérez, director of the Finlay Vaccination Institute.

Cuba has got off relatively lightly compared to many of its neighbours so far in the pandemic, with 19,122 cases and 180 deaths confirmed by the government.

This week Soberana 2 moved onto phase two testing, involving 900 volunteers, and if successful will move onto phase III with 150,000 volunteers in March.

Dr Vérez said the aim was to launch a vaccination campaign in the first half of the year, and it could also be offered as an “option” to tourists.

Posted by: Mao | Feb 4 2021 9:57 utc | 117

Posted by: EoinW | Feb 4 2021 2:58 utc | 89

My daughter worked as a nurse in a few hospitals, some doctors believed the whole vaccine theory and others told her they wouldn't give them to their own families. Many nurses were also very cynical. Doctors that go off the reservation can have their careers terminated if they stray too far, as such most just go along with things.

Also note that quite a few doctors and scientists, including world renowned experts, have spoke out against the covid meme, most have been cancelled from social and all media and many also lost their jobs. Interesting enough the cynics among us on almost every other subject find nothing unusual or disturbing about this.

Many people have decide that although the media lies about almost everything else they are 100% honest about covid, and only covid. They apparently don't find any contradiction in this.

Posted by: Gravel Rash | Feb 4 2021 10:53 utc | 118

In the vaccine war, Switzerland has now rejected the Astrazeneca;
does that mean that tourists who have "only" the AZ or are +65 with AZ vaccine will not be admitted in Switzerland or other countries who have said it is not effective on +65?

Posted by: Mina | Feb 4 2021 10:59 utc | 119

@ Posted by: NathanMulcahy | Feb 4 2021 3:47 utc | 94

Read the articles. Ivermectin only works in vitro, and only in extremely high dosages (that are not available commercially).

You know what also kills the SARS-CoV-2 in vitro? Clorox.

And you're aware there's a monumental distance between a drug having "antiviral properties" and being de facto an antiviral, right? If "properties" mattered that much in medicine, then we would still be using herbs, essences and crystals to heal people.


@ Posted by: chu teh | Feb 4 2021 4:12 utc | 97

I searched for this FLCCC, and it looks like one of those bullshit associations/NGOs. Much like the HCQ one.

Their paper (which you linked) is also bullshit.


@ all

I know most of you commenting are from an older generation, and that most of you are from First World countries. Here's my advice: by throwing Modern Medicine into the mud, you're risking not only your own lives and millions of lives of your contemporaries: you're also risking your future generations, your grandchildren, your great grandchildren, your great great grandchildren. Do you really want to throw them back to the Stone Age? Do you think it's funny? Because your future generations certainly won't find losing their children to an easily avoidable disease and dying at ripe age of 40 funny.

Medicine is the area the West is clearly superior to the East. Don't throw the bath water with the baby. Save what can be saved.

Posted by: vk | Feb 4 2021 11:58 utc | 120

Mina, as far as I can see Astrazeneca release has only been delayed, the swissmedic agency wants more data before the release. That was the info yesterday 3.Feb.21

Posted by: Fran | Feb 4 2021 12:02 utc | 121

As pointed out repeatedly by me, Capitol Police and the media lied about circumstances of death of Officer Brian Sicknick, who died after riot on Jan 6th 2020.

Autopsy reveals no evidence to support the oft and loudly repeated claim that Sicknick suffered any injury at all, certainly not head injuries, after allegations that he was attacked with a fire extinguisher.

The Media simply lied about it. They just completely invented from thin air the "fire extinguisher" attack story

Investigators struggle to build murder case in death of US Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick

    Authorities have reviewed video and photographs that show Sicknick engaging with rioters amid the siege but have yet to identify a moment in which he suffered his fatal injuries, law enforcement officials familiar with the matter said.........

    To date, little information has been shared publicly about the circumstances of the death of the 13-year veteran of the police force, including any findings from an autopsy that was conducted by DC's medical examiner.

    In a statement the day after the insurrection, Capitol Police said that Sicknick had been "injured while physically engaging with protesters" and collapsed as a result of his injuries sometime after returning to his office. He died the next day in a local hospital........

    According to one law enforcement official, medical examiners did not find signs that the officer sustained any blunt force trauma, so investigators believe that early reports that he was fatally struck by a fire extinguisher are not true.

3 Capitol Hill police officers have now died since the riot.

2 are alleged, by the same lying media and police sources, to have "committed suicide".

2 "suicides" in quick succession of officers from a police force that most would admit operates in a very low-pressure environment, coupled with the blatant lies and coverup concerning the death of Sicknick, suggests something else is going on, and being covered up

Posted by: Triden | Feb 4 2021 12:31 utc | 122

Europe’s Vaccine Rollout Has Descended Into Chaos: It should have been a success. What went wrong?

Because of this:

Covid-19 Live Updates: As U.S. Vaccinations Speed Up, Cautious Optimism Grows: More than 27 million Americans have received a first shot

The USA is simply using its imperial power to gobble all the vaccines. Not much to add here.

So far, 95% of all vaccines produced were already "secured" by the richest nations; of those "richest nations", the USA by far "secured" the most. That's why, even with a fucked up system and an elevated degree of political dysfunction and inefficiency, it already vaccinated almost 10% of its population (albeit, it's worth noting, just 6 million fully inoculated, with the two doses).

It will probably all be in vain, though, as the vaccine only works on people that are not yet infected with the SARS-CoV-2. The USA is racing against time, as it already has dozens of millions of cases, therefore dozens of millions of people who cannot - even if they could - be inoculated with the vaccine (any vaccine, be it mRNA or adenoviral).

Posted by: vk | Feb 4 2021 12:33 utc | 123

Slightly off-topic gaming news, the Total War Warhammer franchise just introduces new faction Kislev (Russia/Poland inspired) and Cathay (China inspired) fighting against the daemons of Chaos (symbolizing the 4 vices of men).

The internet rejoices except some suspicious voices who want to cancel the China-inspired faction.

It seems the mere mental image a Russian - China alliance fighting against greedy and immoral daemons from the wastes is too much to bear.

Posted by: Smith | Feb 4 2021 12:49 utc | 124

Posted by: vk | Feb 4 2021 12:33 utc | 123

They laughed, mocked and denigrated SputnikV, and now what? Stand in line, it is a long one. Bad boy Orban was the only smart one. I see those arrogant northeners with the VanDerUberAllesLeyen asking Cuba¡¡¡¡¡ for help. Who could've imagine. Our imperial media today says that Borrell is in Moscow to scold Lavrov and Putin, and that an interview with the asset Navalny is obligatory. What a bunch of clowns.

Posted by: Paco | Feb 4 2021 12:52 utc | 125

@ vk | Feb 4 2021 11:58 utc | 120

Ivermectin only works in vitro, and only in extremely high dosages....

Sorry to be blunt. You not only do not understand how science works, you are also incapable of reading scientific papers.

The two papers I had referred to in # 69 summarize results of a total of 20 clinical studies (8+12). And you come back telling me something about ivermectin in-vitro studies!!!

You just lost your credibility in all things scientific and going forward I’ll simply ignore your comments on scientific matters .

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Feb 4 2021 13:15 utc | 126

@ Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Feb 4 2021 13:15 utc | 126

My first question to you is: do you know how to read?

The first "paper" you linked is not a trial, but a review of alleged trials. They're from the bullshit association FLCCC I mentioned in my previous comment.

The second paper is not even peer-reviewed; it's a preprint. In the footnote of the very article it is stated that:

Preprints are preliminary reports that have not undergone peer review. They should not be considered conclusive, used to inform clinical practice, or referenced by the media as validated information.

You did everything the Research Square told you not to do.

Posted by: vk | Feb 4 2021 13:31 utc | 127

@ vk | Feb 4 2021 11:58 utc | 120

Ivermectin only works in vitro, and only in extremely high dosages....

Sorry to be blunt. You not only do not understand how science works, you are also incapable of reading scientific papers.

You just lost your credibility in all things scientific and going forward I’ll simply ignore your comments on scientific matters .

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Feb 4 2021 13:15 utc | 126

Not only does vk not even need to know how to read scientific papers, he is clearly the world's foremost expert on simply every subject under the sun

Particularly subjects he clearly knows nothing about

Filthy ignorant plebs like you, Mr Mulcahy, should simply stfu and genuflect in awe before the towering brilliantly-blinding intellect that is our resident everything-expert, the delighfully god-like vk

Posted by: Triden | Feb 4 2021 13:40 utc | 128

Seasonal workers in Xinjiang labeled by Western media as ‘forced labor’: Exclusive with French writer Maxime Vivas

Confirms my take @ 123:

Row in West gives Chinese, Russian vaccines a chance: Global Times editorial

European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen said Tuesday that coronavirus vaccines from Russia and China could be approved for use in the bloc if they "show all the data." German Chancellor Angela Merkel, German Health Minister Jens Spahn and French officials have also expressed such open attitudes.

These new attitudes from European officials are against the backdrop that the UK and US pharmaceutical corporations cannot delivery vaccines to EU according to contracts, and a feud has taken place in the West. This presents Chinese and Russian vaccines an opportunity.

Sputnik V's trial results came out at Lancet one day after the German government publicly cogitated using the Russian vaccine.

But there's other information on the Chinese vaccine:

However, there is no hurry. China's vaccine research and development institutions need to mind their own job of improving the vaccine while keeping up with the highest standards of data integrity. Entering the European market still needs to proceed with excellent performance. The fight against the epidemic is destined to be a protracted struggle. As long as Chinese manufacturers put enough efforts, they can grasp the opportunity.

Global vaccines are in short supply. China's huge population needs to be vaccinated, and a large number of developing countries are waiting for the arrival of Chinese vaccines. Not to fail these expectations is the first responsibility of the relevant pharmaceutical companies in China. It would be a huge success if domestic vaccine supplies can support the demand of Chinese vaccinations this year, and produce an international output no lower than that of the US and the UK. That means Chinese vaccines promote global fairness by helping developing countries.

China's plan is very clear:

1) it will only go full steam ahead with the production of its vaccines when they're ready ready, i.e. when phase III trials are complete;

2) it will only begin mass production and distribution when its enough not only for its own people, but also to at least cover the Western pharmaceuticals' productive capacity.

Posted by: vk | Feb 4 2021 13:51 utc | 129

@ Posted by: Triden | Feb 4 2021 13:40 utc | 128

Read the damn papers you're linking here. Read them. You're vomiting links here without even reading what you're posting.

Posted by: vk | Feb 4 2021 13:52 utc | 130

I haven't linked any papers, you silly little man

I just know from past experience dealing with your slippery dishonest and disingenuous ways that you have almost zero expertise, practical or otherwise, in 99% of the all the topics on which you pretend to be an expert.

Posted by: Triden | Feb 4 2021 14:01 utc | 131

@ Triden | Feb 4 2021 13:40 utc | 128

The more vk opens his mouth about scientific matters, the more he exposes his ignorance. Latest case in point is his bringing up in-vitro results to counter clinical study results, including multiple RCT studies.

In-vitro studies are the first in a series of necessary studies before you can do human studies. The intermediate ones are in-vivo and animal. The predictive power from one to the next, in this series, is quite limited. Without going into much details, a huge limitation is that in-vitro systems are static, whereas tissues and organs in living animals are dynamic.

If I were vk, I’d limit my posts to things I know about. Science and scientific methods are not part of them. Oh well ....

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Feb 4 2021 14:05 utc | 132

@ Posted by: Triden | Feb 4 2021 14:01 utc | 131

But your mistress (Nathan Mulcahy) did.

Posted by: vk | Feb 4 2021 14:06 utc | 133

If I were vk, I’d limit my posts to things I know about. Science and scientific methods are not part of them. Oh well ....

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Feb 4 2021 14:05 utc | 132

that would unfortunatly be unlikely to result in a reduction in the number of subjects on which he pretends to possess expertise, because you see vk clearly knows everything.

We should be thankful that such a God-like entity even deigns to consider us worthy recipents upon which to so liberally shower the crumbs of his intellectual genius

Posted by: Triden | Feb 4 2021 14:13 utc | 134

@ Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Feb 4 2021 14:05 utc | 132

From the preprint you linked here:

Methods: We conducted a systematic search of PUBMED, EMBASE, MedRxiv and trial registries.We excluded prevention studies and non-randomized or case-controlled studies. We identified and included 18RCTs. Data we recombined from 2282 patients into a systematic review and meta-analysis.

Discussion: Many studies that were included were not yet published or peer-reviewed and meta-analyses are prone to confounding issues. Furthermore,there was a wide variation in standards of care across trials, and ivermectin dose and duration of treatment was heterogeneous. Ivermectin should be validated in larger, appropriately controlled randomized trials before the results are sufficient for review by regulatory authorities.

This "larger, appropriately controlled randomized trial" was linked in a previous Open Thread by the owner of this blog, which I re-linked here. It showed ivermectin is a placebo.

Here's a link to the definition of meta-analysis:


Long story short: the only ignorant, illiterate here is you, my friend.

Posted by: vk | Feb 4 2021 14:17 utc | 135

Stonebird | Feb 4 2021 9:45 utc | 115

Regarding Question of the Day: Are multiple answers allowed? Today the answer is 2 masks. Eventually it will be 3 or 4 or more...depends on when they need to ramp up the fear level a bit more.

Monkey see monkey do? It's less than a week since the original comment yet, where I work, the corporation has already had a conference call to discuss double masking employees. Doubtless it will be the next rule shortly.

It's sadly ironic that after 25 years of politicians trying to undermine Canada's health care system, it's the actual doctors and scientists who are doing it for them. Granted many may be going along with orders to keep their jobs. I still wonder how much of Big Pharma's profits have been invested in medical students over the past 20 years to guarantee their capture. It's not cheap to become a doctor. Also wonder how many politicians and medical authorities own stock in Big Pharma.

Much of that is speculation. It still makes more sense than the idea that we are undermining our health care by criticizing what they are doing. Talk about shooting the messenger!

Sadly universal health care is going to be our undoing for two reasons. 1) Because it is all controlled by governments, the moment governments go off the rail the entire system is compromised. Medical experts cannot do what's right without being silenced and losing their positions. Meanwhile the corrupt ones, who kiss the political ass, get royalty treatment.

2) This is really dire. The success of our health care system(everywhere in the West, except USA) means we've a stake in supporting the system right to the bitter end. Which means that, outside of America, we'll see people revolt against all the Covid insanity when it is far too late.

Posted by: EoinW | Feb 4 2021 14:20 utc | 136

@ Posted by: Triden | Feb 4 2021 14:01 utc | 131

But your mistress (Nathan Mulcahy) did.

Posted by: vk | Feb 4 2021 14:06 utc | 133

A simple "Whoops, I was wrong" would have been a far less childish and emotionally insecure way of admitting your error

Posted by: Triden | Feb 4 2021 14:21 utc | 137

On February 2, something quite extraordinary happened in Ukraine. Zelensky has signed an executive order introducing sanctions against three Ukrainian TV channels: 112 Ukraine (and its network of regional channels), NewsOne and ZIK. The order also introduces personal sanctions against Ukrainian MP Taras Kozak (Opposition Platform — For Life) who is the owner of these channels.

The sanctions suspend all state-issued licenses, prohibit the use of the national radio spectrum, and stop the provision of broadcasting services. The sanctions also freeze the channels’ assets, prohibit moving capital abroad, suspend execution of economic and financial obligations, and prohibit operations with securities. The personal sanctions against Kozak restrict the rights to use his property, restrict trade operations, stop transport operations, suspend execution of economic and financial obligations, and prohibit moving capital abroad.

The broadcasting of 112 Ukraine, NewsOne and ZIK has ceased. Also, for the first time in its history, Ukraine has introduced personal sanctions against a citizen of Ukraine.

(Зеленский ввел санкции против телеканалов и депутата РадыEurAsia Daily, February 3, 2021)

The OPFL party has issued a statement condemning the decision:

President Zelensky’s executive order stopping the operation of TV channels 112 Ukraine, NewsOne and ZIK and introducing personal sanctions against Taras Kozak, their owner and a member of the OPFL party’s Political Council, is an act of usurping power and outright censorship, provides a mechanism for establishing dictatorship and tyranny in the country, tramples on all international principles and norms of democracy.
(Украинская оппозиция обвинила Зеленского в узурпации властиEurAsia Daily, February 3, 2021)

The latest ratings of Ukrainian political parties are as follows: 24.1% Opposition Platform — For Life (the party of Medvedchuk, Boyko and Rabinovich), 18.2% Servant of the People (Zelensky’s party), 15.6% European Solidarity (Poroshenko’s party), 10.3% Fatherland (Batkivshchyna; Yuliya Timoshenko’s party).

(Раскрыт рейтинг украинских партий, February 3, 2021)

According to Ukrainian legal expert Nazar Chyornyy, Ukrainian law on sanctions does not allow applying sanctions to citizens of Ukraine and companies owned by residents of Ukraine.

(Санкции против трех украинских каналов могут оспорить через суд — юристEurAsia Daily, February 3, 2021)

Zelensky commented on his decision in a tweet:

Володимир Зеленський @ZelenskyyUa - 8:36 UTC · Feb 3, 2021

Sanctions is a difficult decision. #Ukraine strongly supports #FreedomOfSpeech. Not propaganda financed by the aggressor country that undermines Ukraine on its way to #EU & EuroAtlantic integration.Fight for independence is fight in the information war for truth & European values

The United States Embassy in Ukraine has supported Zelensky’s decision in its tweet:

U.S. Embassy Kyiv @USEmbassyKyiv - 13:47 UTC · Feb 3, 2021

The US supports Ukraine’s efforts yesterday to counter Russia’s malign influence, in line with Ukrainian law, in defense of its sovereignty & territorial integrity. We must all work together to prevent disinformation from being deployed as a weapon in an info war against sovereign states.

Ukrainian Nazis have welcomed Zelensky’s decision. Andrey Medvedko, an organizer of Nazi organization C14 and one of the two killers of Ukrainian publicist Oles Buzina (both of whom inexplicably walk free), posted his rendition of German marching song Wir sind des Geyers schwarzer Haufen with altered lyrics to his Facebook account:

Wir sind des Selenskyjs schwarze Haufen,
Hei a ho ho!
Und wollen mit Oligarchen raufen,
Hei a ho ho!
Spieß voran, drauf und dran,
Setzt aufs Medwedtschuk den roten Hahn!

(We are the Zelensky’s Black Host,
Hiya ho ho!
And we want to scuffle with oligarchs
Hiya ho ho!
Spikes ahead! Forward march!
Raise the red flames upon Medvedchuk!)

The melody of the song was written by a future Nazi (Fritz Sotke), and during the war it became the de-facto official marching song of 8th SS Cavalry Division “Florian Geyer”, which is the reason why Ukrainian Nazis like it (although the song was also included in the songbook of the National People’s Army of GDR, so apparently it wasn’t considered to be exclusively Nazi).

Medvedko later removed his post and made a new one instead:

In 1943 Averkiy Goncharenko, the commander of Ukrainian forces at Kruty, swore to follow the orders of Adolf Hitler and did it until the end of war. Burn, vyshyvata, burn!

Averkiy Goncharenko was a captain of the Imperial Russian Army who later served under Simon Petlyura (according to a commission of the Red Cross, 50,000 Jews were killed during the winter of 2019 under Petlyura’s rule, but modern Jews don’t seem to care) and in 1943 became Hauptsturmführer in 14th SS-Volunteer Division “Galicia”.

“Vatnik” or “vata” is a slur used in Ukraine to dehumanize people who remember and honor the Soviet fight and victory over Nazism; vatnik, also known as telogreyka, is the famous Soviet cotton wool–padded jacket, part of winter uniform issued by the Red Army during WW2 (vata is Russian for cotton wool). “Vyshyvata” is a portmanteau of vyshyvanka—Ukrainian embroidered shirt—and “vata” and is used to refer to “vatniks” among Ukrainians. As a historical note, I’d like to remind MoA readers that 6.5 million Ukrainians have fought in the ranks of the Red Army against Nazi Germany, while only 150–250 thousand Ukrainians were members of UPA (Ukrainian Insurgent Army) which had only one tiny skirmish with the German forces over the course of the war. So Medvedko is calling for burning those who remember and celebrate the Soviet Union’s victory over the Nazis. Such burning was already committed by Ukrainian Nazis in Odessa on May 2, 2014 and went unpunished.

Olga Musafirova, a journalist at Russian opposition newspaper Novaya Gazeta, has also supported Zelensky’s decision:

With new tensions rising in Donbass after a visit to the occupied territories by Kremlin propaganda paratroopers headed by Margarita Simonyan and statements about “republics that stretch over entire Donetsk and Lugansk oblasts”, with the work of the Trilateral Contact Group effectively frozen, it would be naïve to expect peace in Ukraine anytime soon. It would be smart to prevent back-stabbing, though.

As you can see, according to some members of the Russian opposition, having a different view of the conflict in Donbass—a view that could actually put an end to the conflict—is “back-stabbing” and must be stopped.

(После запрета телеканалов неонацисты записали ЗЕ в «фюреры»EurAsia Daily, February 3, 2021)

Ukrainian Ministry of Culture and Information Policy has sent a letter to state-owned Dovzhenko Film Studios, where the studios of the TV channels are located, asking it to stop providing services to them. It has also sent a letter to YouTube asking to block their YouTube channels.

(Минкульт Украины решил «выселить» опальные телеканалы из студии ДовженкоEurAsia Daily, February 4, 2021)

So there you have it: Western and pro-war Ukrainians’ lies and re-writing of history are “the truth”, while pro-peace Ukrainians’ efforts to debunk those lies with facts are “Russian disinformation”. Up is down, black is white.

Posted by: S | Feb 4 2021 14:22 utc | 138

Correction to my post #138: “the winter of 2019” should read “the winter of 1919”.

Posted by: S | Feb 4 2021 14:27 utc | 139

@vk | Feb 4 2021 0:27 utc | 68

How the Biden Administration Can Help Solve Our Reality Crisis

Several experts I spoke with recommended that the Biden administration put together a cross-agency task force to tackle disinformation and domestic extremism, which would be led by something like a “reality czar.”

This is just the Ministry of Truth being established. You don't have issues with truth, do you?

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 4 2021 14:35 utc | 140

@downtownhaiku | Feb 4 2021 3:19 utc | 90

Yes, Ford Escort = good car

Depends on your definition of "good" I guess. I have had 2, first a 1977 model that was ok but rusted away, and then a Brazilian Ford Escort from the mid 1980's that rusted and fell to pieces and ended its life running on 3 cylinders. Fun times.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 4 2021 14:43 utc | 141

Oh no, MAGA press darlings picked AOC's version of Jan 6 apart. She's quadrupling down like the little upper middle class, spoiled princess she is. Now Congress will take the day to let Congress critters to emote about their horrors the day some jerk in a goofy hat showed up. Who's kidding who it is all about AOC so she doesn't have a bitch fit. No $2000 checks for the little guy today. Oops it is now down to $1400. Like Joe Biden, I forget. Meanwhile US has to send bombers to Norway to protect the Arctic from Russia and buy a whole lot of Chinese made gay pride flags. It is all about priorities like AOC, gay egos, and penguins' rights. Did I mention there is also need for taxpayer money to finance the expansion of cages for unaccompanied illegal kids? Yes the left and their Democrats are no doubt the good guys. Seriously they are the only thing that can make the GOP look remotely passable.

Posted by: Old and Grumpy | Feb 4 2021 14:43 utc | 142

Did I mention there is also need for taxpayer money to finance the expansion of cages for unaccompanied illegal kids?

Posted by: Old and Grumpy | Feb 4 2021 14:43 utc | 142

Gullible Biden-voters, Late-November 2020:

    Horray, no more kids in cages!!!!"

Reality, Jan 2021":

    "Correction: no more kids in cages .... on TV!

Posted by: Triden | Feb 4 2021 15:07 utc | 143

William Gruff @76
I do see things differently. When the gov gives out these payments one can not know how that money will be spent and therefore can not say that will lead to inflation.

The unemployed may very well pay rent or mortgage, car insurance or other payments which are due or past due. That is not inflationary as these payments would be made at that rate anyway.

Yes people will buy food and other supplies for their home but those payments would be nearly "normal" amounts spent.

I think perhaps, this is propaganda from the rich 1% to get more for themselves.

So roast me by telling us how the stimulus payments are "really" inflationary. Links would help.

Posted by: Dodgy Bodger | Feb 4 2021 15:11 utc | 144

Iran may reverse fatwa banning nukes if Israel, US act dangerously

And who could blame them for doing that?

Posted by: farm ecologist | Feb 4 2021 15:18 utc | 145

Correction to my post #132

There was a typo in the above post - I was posting with my cell phone.

After in-vitro comes ex-vivo (not in-vivo). The four stages of experiments that lead to human clinical studies are

1) in-vitro: bench top experiment with dead cells. It is a static system
2) ex-vivo: also bench top experiment with a small collection of live cells. It is also a static system
3) animal study: live cells and organs in living animals
4) human study: obviously living cells in a dynamic system

As I had mentioned previously, the predictive power of results from one stage to the next is quite limited. And to make any conclusion by jumping multiple stages (e.g. from in-vitro to human study) is to expose one's utter ignorance.

Even any predictions based on animal studies on whether or not something will perform in humans is generally not possible. That's because mechanisms of tissue reaction and healing can be very different between humans and animals - in fact even between animal species.

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Feb 4 2021 15:21 utc | 146

Interesting take on how Israel gets away with regular strikes on Syria:

Posted by: Et Tu | Feb 4 2021 15:21 utc | 147

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Posted by: arby | Feb 4 2021 15:25 utc | 148

@Gravel Rash | Feb 4 2021 10:53 utc | 118

Also note that quite a few doctors and scientists, including world renowned experts, have spoke out against the covid meme, most have been cancelled from social and all media and many also lost their jobs. Interesting enough the cynics among us on almost every other subject find nothing unusual or disturbing about this.

Many people have decide that although the media lies about almost everything else they are 100% honest about covid, and only covid. They apparently don't find any contradiction in this.

Yes, isn't that curious indeed. I for one have called this a total fraud from day one, and still do. I will need physical evidence presented to me to change my mind.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 4 2021 15:36 utc | 149

The medicine field, full of glory hunters:

Retinol Depletion in Severe COVID-19

First it was Vitamin-D, now it the deficiency of the day is Vitamin-A.

So, what you mean is that vitamin deficiencies are bad for the human body? Who knew!

Posted by: vk | Feb 4 2021 15:38 utc | 150

@Bemildred #21
For every Huawei, there are a dozen extremely lackluster SOEs.
Personally, I don't see the SOEs as the driver of China's growth - rather, I see them as beneficiaries.
If you have ever visited both countries, the contrast cannot be more stark.
China has immensely improved its infrastructure over the past 35 years since I first visited in 1984.
India, in contrast, still has regular power outages even in major cities like Mumbai.
Roads, trains, internet, water, sewage - China has leapfrogged India across the board.
Secondly, what few people realize is that China has effectively deployed a startup ecosystem between its provinces. Different provinces have focused their bureaucratic and financial efforts on a handful of specific areas. Some have worked, many have not. The piles of junked bicycles due to the "shared bicycle" scam startups is one example of a failed one - which ironically was imported to the Western democracies via the cheap disposable bicycles designed for the Chinese startups. Ditto scooters.
Thus the other lesson isn't that SOEs uber alles in economics - it is that the provincially supported SOEs which succeed are reinforced while their failures languish.
This is in contrast to many other country's SOEs which are basically sacrosanct.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 4 2021 15:45 utc | 151

Posted by: Et Tu | Feb 4 2021 15:21 utc | 147

Paywalled. Elijah must be out of a job.

I have my own theory that might explain (partly) why Syria's response to israel is as feeble as it is:


I suspect a large percentage of these strikes are actually hitting decoys of one sort or another and that the SAA, IRGC, Hezbollah and perhaps even Russia as well are having a merry old time setting up potemkin bases all over the desert:

Physical decoys:


Electronic decoys:

Portable, soldier or air deployable electronic battlefield decoy

Deflects, masks friendly force Electro Magnetic (EM) signature with numerous false phantom signatures
Spoofs adversaries to draw them out, slow their targeting of friendly forces, and commit and waste assets on phantom targets
Authentic emulation of voice, video, data and text signatures of NATO forces.
Addresses next-generation NATO requirements.
Simultaneous waveform generation across all communications systems

A little bit on the science behind radar jammers and decoys:

To protect radar against missile attacks a system of additional microwave signal emitters is used. These so-called traps or decoys should emit pulses that might hinder the precise targeting of the protected source by forming a composed microwave radiation signal. The simulation model of the radar system and radar traps is proposed. The designed simulation model allows to estimate the probability of survival of the system for given scenarios of missile attacks leading to the calculation of a certain statistics of protection.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 4 2021 15:46 utc | 152

@William Gruff #72
Your rant would be more credible if it were not for the fact that the unemployment top-ups and stimulus checks are going precisely to the people who don't have cash.
Equally that inflation has been across the board with the exception of rents in major cities. A significant number of the Robinhood crew are exactly those people using stimulus and unemployment payments to join the stock market (and get screwed sooner or later).
Rich people benefit from economic stimulus no matter what because they already own a disproportionate percentage of assets - assets increase in value with massive monetary printing.
But what is less written about is that inflation causes wages to increase because the poor people will demand more pay in order to survive.
Ultimately what matters is political focus. The rich use their money, the poor have to use organization and focus. Sadly, Americans are so historically ignorant that they seem to have to reinvent the wheel every generation or two - as compared to Europeans who seem to instinctively know that fighting bad laws and policies is cheaper if they are vigilant than waiting until there's a real problem.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 4 2021 15:54 utc | 153

@Debsisdead #103
Your argument would be more effective if the Soviet Union had not failed.
Just because the "capitalists" aren't in charge doesn't mean that power structures evolve over other things than money.
Nor are "worker owned" collectives notably better performing than those nasty capitalist ones - where are all the huge worker-owned and operated companies driving the wasteful capitalist ones out of business?
Oh right, they don't exist.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 4 2021 15:56 utc | 154

Posted by: vk | Feb 3 2021 18:06 utc | 6

No we do not exist no more now(after 20 years that this path has begun)..we are officially a German colony just like Angela wanted us to be.And Mario the jesuit will be the hammer that will destroy the last rights and expectations of the working people.The saddest thing is that it was all widely expected.

Posted by: LuBa | Feb 4 2021 15:58 utc | 155

Posted by: S | Feb 4 2021 14:22 utc | 138

Thanks for hard work. For Zelensky, this is not the first usurpation of power combined with the support of Nazi epigones -- given how fondly they remember their Nazi antecedents, calling the "Neo-Nazi" is not giving them justice. These Nazi are supported by USA, Canada and UK and de-facto accepted by EU structures.

When they are mentioned at all in Western media, it is in "rebuttal" articles, stressing their very marginal electoral presence etc. But their influence is profound. First, their electoral success is next to null because they hardly try -- much better to penetrate all major parties (except for so-called "pro-Russian" parties). Second, the acceptance of their ideology of hate and intolerance is rammed through not-so-enthusiastic Rada (parliament), and more and more of its elements rule the land.

Historically, pro-Hitler guerrillas and alumni of pro-Hitler units (overlapping categories) were recruited by intelligence services of USA and allies to wreck terror in Soviet Union and other countries ruled by Communists. Ideologically similar groups were recruited in Latin America. I theorize that as they were trained, supervised etc., their attitude and ideology was absorbed by CIA and similar outfits. From there, they spread among "Western elite". Perhaps Trump era was a major step forward in this process.

For (objectively) petty reasons, Trump was despised by both Democrats and the services which led to a cult of "interagency consensus": no person of sound mind and good will can doubt what intelligence says, ESPECIALLY if the multiple agencies have a "consensus". After parsing, this is not based on actual veracity of what they say, but on patriotic duty: doubt makes Homeland/Empire/World Order/whatever weak, and "now, more than ever, we cannot be weak" -- not that cult of "strength" is not exactly "liberal", but fits with fascism very well. Same with using strength to eliminate sources of facts and opinion to undermine our strength, fake news and all that. Everything for strengh, strength is everything.

In this way, Neo-liberal introduce genuine innovations to liberalism, unlike Neo-Nazi who are Neo- only for the lack of power to reorganize their own societies -- and the world -- on a proper basis. But Neo-liberals and their friends in secret services have the strength and accumulate strength -- including Nazi helpers who have their uses.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 4 2021 16:03 utc | 156

@Triden #122
2 police officer suicies isn't obviously out of whack.
There are under 700K police officers in the US; there were 219 police suicides in 2020.
DC police is 3800 - they would average 1 per year anyway from the national average.
Actual suicide rates in major cities - I'd bet they are higher than the overall.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 4 2021 16:03 utc | 157

uncle tungsten @49, thanks for sharing that Viva Ecuador libre video!

Of course our establishment news media show us none of this in our rigged illusional democracies.

Posted by: Canadian Cents | Feb 4 2021 16:27 utc | 158

EoinW | Feb 4 2021 14:20 utc | 136

One more mask a day, keeps the covid man away? After masks, plastic nose plugs ?

I share with you the idea that the Health services themselves are not helping. Oh, they supply the "experts", where each one is more pro-doom than the previous. That way they can garantee more TV spots to be invited to. Many health service "providers" must know the truth but are probably too scared to say it out loud.

I wonder if at the very beginning, Governments were TOLD that the virus was military. This would explain the panic to enforce lockdowns and social distancing. This "secret" was to be kept from the public in case THEY panicked as well (or asked for explanations). It is not necessary that it did or did not come from Military research (but I assume the former.). The panic is/was real. Governments went "batsh%t" crazy, (a surprisingly appropriate word).

Then all the "greedies", leapt in to make a fast buck. Experts (as said), Big Pharma, Bill Gates, (who also pays Johnson and Vallance and Wittie in the UK), and now Wall Street and Davos and so on.

Having found that a) it pays and b) it allows control of opinions and potential trouble makers - the question is can they "allow" the end of Covid. (Multiple variants are running wild apparently, jumping over oceans and appearing in the most unlikely places. The countries that have seen the number of cases and deaths diminue, and lockdowns reduced, don't seem to get the "nouveau doom virus"-

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 4 2021 16:32 utc | 159

Great comment at unz for the OP "Blue Terror" thread:

QHVM says:Next New Comment
February 4, 2021 at 2:11 am GMT • 14.9 hours ago • 500 Words ↑

What about a Great Refusal?

Why not massive strikes and work stoppages?

It is argued that the support of the elites is necessary to legitimize the cause. However, this is not necessarily true. If blue collar America (the new right) refused to cooperate and/or work, then white collar liberal America could not operate. They need the blue collar workers more than the blue collar workers need them.

Economically paralyzing the country until the voice of the right is heard is the best strategy the right could take. The corporate press could not denounce the Great Refusal because it would be a non-violent method to demand that the liberties guaranteed by the Constitution cannot be taken away.

The Great Refusal could be like the trucker and housewife strikes in Chile against Allende which partially brought him down (I do not want to debate the CIA role in Chile here, but the Great Refusal does not need covert beginnings – it is already overt anyway). It would have to be on a much more massive scale across many industries though. Those who join the Great Refusal will have to boycott as well. This means expending capital outside of the controlled economy in businesses which represent their interests.

One half the country cannot be fired without the country becoming paralyzed (regardless if you say they will flood the country with immigrants – those immigrants will not have the blue collar skills needed). Moreover, I do not think the ruling elites could get away with a terror (similar to what existed in Bolshevik Russia) without bringing down their own house of cards.

It has to start like the GME Reddit mob started their movement. It took Keith Patrick Gill (aka Roaring Kitty) two years to build up the momentum for his GME move. Yes, the elites control the media, but this page still operates? No? Alternate electronic sites and underground print are key, but if the “new right” (kind of like the new left of the 1960s) gets on the same page on these alternate sites, maybe the movement can grow. Maybe the “new right” will have altruistic patriots who will pay to publicize the Great Refusal in print or by taking out advertisements.

Finally, the Great Refusal does not need a leader like Keith Patrick Gill or Proud Boy and FBI informant Enrique Tarrio. Any group formally organized outside of work or family relations will likely be infiltrated by government instigators. The Great Refusal must come from people with common associations and bonds to stand up and take a risk . They needs to see that if they act peaceably and collectively they cannot be tread upon. An elite leader is not necessary if the mass acts as one. Patience and commitment to a collective movement are the keys to mobilizing the “new right.” Refusals here and there can snowball into a Great Refusal.

In my view, this is the best non-violent Psyop that has a chance of being successful without elite leadership. The right needs a better Psyop. The left has consistently beat them at this game. Why not employ their own tactics against them? Refuse and force their hand. Trotsky knew the key.

I bolded the last part to show my fairness in treating Trotsky as a very smart man. He had powerful methods as a True Believer. We should take the good and throw out the bad.

IMO, deplorables need to stop spending money on globally produced goods where at all possible. Purchase physical silver instead.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Feb 4 2021 17:16 utc | 160

c1ue @153

If the cash the FED prints ends up in circulation in the real economy (not the equity markets, which have little to do with the real economy anymore) then it will be inflationary. There is no way around that. To be certain, many millions of Americans desperately need that cash, and the rich just as certainly do not. I am not trying to advocate for this economic bind being a good thing, I am just pointing out that it exists. This is just one of the contradictions built into market economics that guarantees crisis, or in present conditions guarantees deepening crisis.

Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 4 2021 17:18 utc | 161

Although debsisdead is incorrect that how people dress determines social class, moral virtue and competence (or lack thereof,) citing the superior performance of China vs. India as somehow showing SOEs are parasitic on growth, is obtuse, to be charitable. The proper conclusion to the premise SOEs are not good is that India would inevitably be superior in its performance, as its days of nationalized enterprises were never so extensive as in China, and they are long gone to boot. It is truly perverse to ignore your own evidence!

The attempt to argue that the SOEs that are "successful" are favored while the others are merely left to "languish" is an effort to explain away the evidence, for those who don't blindly accept assertions. The problem there is, unsuccessful companies in capitalism don't "languish," they go bankrupt, all employees are dismissed, assets are sold. In fact, private enterprises that simply aren't successful *enough* by bankers' and stock brokers' standards can be taken over, stripped of profitable assets, retirement funds looted, etc. And support for the "successful" SOEs would involve active suppression of trade unions and strikes, particularly violent suppression of wildcat strikes; limits on social spending; regressive taxation; capital mobility so that the money-making SOEs can put their gains anywhere they wished, etc. etc. What happens to SOEs in China is *not* capitalism in action, not by historic standards. It is at best to capitalism as NEP in the USSR of the Twenties was. The issue is whether it is a long-term path to socialism. (I say no, others are offended at the question.)

Someone can use a buzzword like "ecosystem" without saying anything meaningful. The overall effects of SOEs, even or especially the seemingly inefficient, in production for use, maintaining division of labor, keeping up employment, acting as subsidizers of production by their less/un-profitable products matter. c1ue, the fake lefty, apparently believes that Keynes, a Thirties economist, is too left-wing and trendy, preferring the likes of Andrew Mellon, Hoover's Secretary of the Treasury as oracles of economic wisdom. But if c1ue were to venture into more modern times, even at the risk of turning pink, the supposedly unsuccessful SOEs contribute to overall economic growth by maintaining effective demand. I think Keynesianism has only a grain of truth in it, but this is decidedly not the orthodox, conservative view...which is that Chinese SOEs are why China is inferior to India.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Feb 4 2021 17:31 utc | 162

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 4 2021 15:45 utc | 151

Thanks, that was interesting. I'm not a big fan of SOEs, I just think they are a tool to manage development and your economy, direct leverage on it you might say. I would not be surprised if the Chinese make mistakes, probably lots, everybody else does. SOEs seem appropriate for any "public services" too. And anything else where profit is not the primary motive. I was speculating that they use them as incubators, in which case you would expect spotty results. If the debris is left laying around too long that would be "sub-optimal", but not a crisis in an economy like China's, they provide jobs, and we have lots of debris laying around here too. If you see jobs as a way to give people self-respect and a decent living while getting some useful work out of them it's a much different picture, and so much more humane than "welfare".

That said, I don't disagree with what you said, and I expect you are better informed about China than I.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 4 2021 17:38 utc | 163

China is playing chess while the US is playing checkers.

The US attempts to bully nations with sanctions - effectively pushing them away from the dollar. China may offer digital yuan instead. Result: a weakened dollar, ineffective US 'soft' power and more power/influence for China. The US could be forced towards military action as a last resort - except that a weakened dollar and social decline prevents that. Check and mate, perhaps.

Posted by: Eighthman | Feb 4 2021 17:57 utc | 164

S @138--

Thanks so very much for your report! I thought something was stirring in Ukraine with the return of the UkroNazi enablers to power in the Outlaw US Empire. As Hudson pointed out in his presentation at Oxford, the times are becoming desperate for the Empire with the formation of the Eurasian Bloc combined with the unmasking of the massive fraudulent foundation of the Outlaw US Empire's financial markets and its entire economy. Ukraine will be seen as the only useful tool to destabilize Russia, so I wouldn't at all be surprised to see the forces that Trump was going to move from Germany to Poland to instead be moved to Ukraine and actually used to force a military victory over Donbass. The Ukrainian public's political positions you reported show a divide greater than that existing within the Outlaw US Empire, and an actual Civil War is ongoing in Ukraine, not just rhetorically being postulated.

Bottom line is the Outlaw US Empire must do its utmost to destabilize the newly formed Eurasian Bloc and protect its dollar hegemony if it's to be successful in kicking the two cans--debt deflation and hyper-inflation--further down the road: The asset bubble will pop causing the former while the debasement of having issued so many dollars will cause the latter in real commodities like food and oil/transport fuels.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 4 2021 17:57 utc | 165

VK: Better not to bother. Nathan Mulcahy is a scam and charlatan pushing his snake-oil. One of the numerous complete loons that have plagued this site for the last few months.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Feb 4 2021 17:58 utc | 166

Good news, if true:

Biden to end US support for offensive operations in Yemen

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 4 2021 18:22 utc | 167

Eighthman in comment # 164 beat me to it but repeated below is a link to a ZH posting that shows not only that ZH can do decent reporting but that they occasionally report a decent perspective

SWIFT Sets Up Joint Venture With China Central Bank Ahead Of Imminent Digital Yuan Launch

The above is a long read but useful if you want to stay up on the civilization war we are in. The question keeps coming back to who are you going to trust, your socialist government or the puppet government fronts for the elite that own global private finance? This gets back to my back and forth with Debsisdead. I agree with bottoms up "socialism" but it has to project beyond just local where Debsisdead stops. That bottom up projection beyond local needs to result is a socialist government that can be trusted to run the people's "punch bowl".

I think the private run punch bowl of the West is anti-humanistic and needs to be replaced with government that is projected cooperation from the folks at the middle/bottom of the socio-economic scale so it forms a constantly recycling up of our species.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 4 2021 18:29 utc | 168

Bemildred @167--

Certainly, but I see it as a housecleaning issue where assets are being redeployed to counter the real threat to dollar hegemony posed by the rising Eurasian Bloc. Hudson's Oxford talk was extremely timely!!

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 4 2021 18:31 utc | 169

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 4 2021 18:31 utc | 169

Yes, it did occur to me that that might be the purpose. I get the impression of a good deal of actual dithering about trying to keep the bleeding down, perhaps even taxing the rich, which is itself different. Blinken looks like a deer in the headlights, and annoyed. Lot's of little brushfires popping up now internationally, more Myanmars, the mice see the cat is busy. I guess we can look for more re-positioning of the pieces, but I don't think Biden will be able to do much, even if he tries. If we had any sense we'd stop pissing money away and turn it to use at home. I'd like to know better what he really thinks, in the sense of how they (whomever "Biden" is) really assess their situation, and what they propose to do about Trump.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 4 2021 19:02 utc | 170

Myanmar holds first cabinet meeting after major reshuffle
22.01.2021 (09:15)
Russian Defence Minister General of the Army Sergei Shoigu held talks with the Commander-in-Chief of the Myanmar Armed Forces, Senior General Min Aung Hlaing
January 22
Senior General Min Aung Hlaing welcomes and meets Russian Defence Minister Army General Sergey K. SHOIGU
Posted by: Mao | Feb 3 2021 20:10 utc | 33

This intervention by the military in Myanmar is a very interesting development, and there is much more to it than meets the eye. It is all about rolling back the US/UK colour revolution of 2015 and rescuing the sovereignty of Myanmar - nothing else. The 8th November elections, which were massively fraudulent, were the trigger, part of the legal vehicle for the intervention, the central and most pertinent manifestation of the grounds for the intervention, what vastly increased the risks to Myanmar sovereignty, and what 'broke the camel's back', but I think in important respects the fraudulent election per se is really only one part of the jigsaw, the whole picture of which is the US colour revolution which bore fruit in the election of 2015 in which Aung San Suu Kyi came to power.

Was the intervention a "coup"? No. In reality, I believe, it was not a coup for the following three reasons:

1) The military carrying out the intervention were already part of the government - and indeed they were already the government as far as all aspects of military defence, police, security and protection of the national sovereignty is concerned - i.e. specifically the content of the intervention and everything it entailed;

2) The Myanmar constitution specifically reserves the Defence and Internal ministries [and one other, I think Justice, I'll have to check later] for the military, and the military is constitutionally obliged to protect the national security and national sovereignty against threats;

3) The constitution specifies provisions for the declaration of emergency.

Note the last line of the Xinhuanet link above: "The state power has been handed over to Min Aung Hlaing [the commander in chief of the army] under the Constitution."

Now note the next two links, concerning a visit by the Russian Minister of Defence General Shoigu, on 22nd January 2021, to the Myanmar Defence Ministry in Naypyidaw. Oh, that was before the intervention, so it must be separate ... but wait a minute! That was just one week before, and it was General Shoigu himself. The intervention was early in the morning of 1st February. According to the election schedule, the newly elected parliament members were supposed to be officially endorsed later that same day - therefore it was the most critical moment with respect to rescuing the national sovereignty from attack by the US/UK.

During that night, the army simultaneously surrounded Yangon, Mandalay, and every town throughout Myanmar. The key perpetrators of the colour revolution were swiftly detained, the state of emergency was declared, communications TV and internet cut, and key installations were secured. One week after the visit of General Shoigu! Doesn't that have at least a whiff of that brilliant Russian military strategic planning? A tempting connection, I would say.

Look again at that second link above. General Shoigu said: "I am sure that today's meeting will contribute to the development of all areas of our partnership in the military field. We are always open for a substantive conversation." And from General Min Aung Hlaing: "Despite the long distances, our countries are very close. Russia, as a loyal friend, has always supported Myanmar in difficult times, especially in the last four years." Also: "For reference: Since 2001, Russia and Myanmar have established the entire legal framework for effective and mutually beneficial bilateral military-technical cooperation, which is developing dynamically. ... Military cooperation between the two countries has also been developing intensively over the past five years."

Who are the leading experts, on this planet, in foiling US/UK colour revolutions?

Expect the course of events following this intervention to be very orderly, meticulously legal, highly effective, and just. Not just because Russia is involved, but also because that is likely to be a condition for the Russian support. The Myanmar military have long had very close ties with the Russian (and before that Soviet) military.

Oh, and by the way, Burmese friends have told me this "coup" is totally unlike the military coups in 1962 and 1988. In Yangon and Mandalay the military - and also the police - are virtually not to be seen at all on the streets, since Tuesday (in at least some towns there is still a substantial military presence - I think that is probably because of heavy US-sponsored/armed/trained insurgencies in those areas). The situation is described as "almost completely normal". That is, except for long queues in the banks, as many people try to withdraw cash. The central bank has imposed a limit on withdrawals of 10 million Kyat (about US$8000) - that, I suspect, is not so much to prevent a run on the banks as to prevent capital flight by fugitives of justice! US$8000 is quite generous under the circumstances!

I wonder, that Bolivian election success, that was quite a miracle, wasn't it! I wonder if they had some help in protecting against election fraud conspiracies?

I do hope that Ecuador is getting help to protect against suspension of the coming election this Sunday, and other hindrances!

Posted by: BM | Feb 4 2021 19:08 utc | 171

Amazon steals $61M in tips form it's drivers.
Heard anything in the MSM about this?

Posted by: Joe | Feb 4 2021 19:21 utc | 172

Lavrov had a very keen answer to this question at yesterday's presser:

"Question (translated from Arabic): Moscow’s rhetoric on protests in the West, in part, on Capitol Hill, and the Western response to unauthorized actions in Moscow are very different. Don’t you think that the Russian position is too diplomatic, thereby giving the West more opportunity to interfere in Russia’s domestic affairs? Shouldn’t Moscow start referring to those that were arrested for the riots on the Capitol as political prisoners?"

As is Lavrov's style, his answer is four paragraphs long and contains a surprise. I've gone around the main force of his answer with the following excerpt to entice barflies to click the link and read all about it, and his answer to the question that follows this one:

"Sergey Lavrov: I’d say that the West presents very specific, one-sided coverage of not only the events linked with Alexei Navalny but also everything that is taking place in Russia....

"I understand those who think that Russia could be more aggressive in reacting to the openly high-handed, unseemly rhetoric from Western leaders. In our diplomatic and political culture, we are not used to resorting to thuggish rhetoric. We are polite people and are used to achieving our goals in a civil and civilised manner. As we say: 'God is not in power but in truth.' We also have a good proverb that should be remembered: 'Honey is sweet, but the bee stings.' Those who take our polite manners for a sign of weakness are making a big mistake."

I very much look forward to the upcoming visit by Josep Borrell, High Representative of the EU for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, this Friday.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 4 2021 19:27 utc | 173

BM @171--

Thanks highly for your report! IMO, Myanmar was being groomed for an R2P intervention once the authors of that ploy were returned to power, the aim being to destabilize the newly formed Eurasian Bloc and BRI activities in Southeast Asia. Putin was dead on correct about our current times being very similar to the 1930s. Hudson's Oxford talk provides needed historical context to Putin's picture that few people learned about in school.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 4 2021 19:43 utc | 174

@William Gruff #161
What you said is true if nothing else changed, but everything else has changed.
All the travel, restaurant, bar and other entertainment jobs list is deflationary.
So is the 10m+ additional out of work.
Let’s not even get into what lockdowns are doing in terms of unexpected consequences.
Thus again, not at all clear you understand what you are talking about.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 4 2021 19:45 utc | 175

BM | Feb 4 2021 19:08 utc | 171

Thanks BM, That makes the whole situation a lot clearer.

- and Mynamar could be part of the BRI if it wants, across land and cuts out the Malacca strait and Singapore bottleneck. (China <=> Indian Ocean, avoiding Thailand, Laos and Vietnam as well).
More Eurasian cohesion?

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 4 2021 19:55 utc | 176

@Bemildred #163
The CCP aren’t gods or demons. They certainly must have some sacred cows they won’t gore.
However, to date they have been extremely pragmatic and smart. Mistakes that are made are not tolerated if they threaten what the CCP considers its goals and mandate.
Consider, in contrast what American SOEs do: Fannie Mae, Amtrak, the Post Office, etc etc.
Not every function which a society deems important needs to be profitable but equally, failure to follow through to ensure a given function works and improves is a sign of incompetence at best.
China’s energy policy is a good example: (“all of the above: nuclear, coal, solar, hydro. They’ll send their reps to the various time and money wasting international worthless treaty talks but ultimately they do what they think is needed for China to improve.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 4 2021 19:57 utc | 177

@Joe #172
Why is this surprising? If isn’t exactly stealing tips: it is incorporating the tip income into the “guaranteed” pay.
This is a practice pioneered by the delivery services.
That’s what happens when you have one huge entity that
Controls all aspects of the work.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 4 2021 19:59 utc | 178

Joe @172--

Thanks for that!! Yet another example of how the media obfuscates--Amazon STOLE "more than $61 million worth of customer tips meant for its delivery drivers," but BigLie Media are running a PR exercise by saying Amazon merely "withheld" those monies over the past 5 years. Do read the story at the link and send it around. Amazon--and so many others--must be anti-trusted into tiny little pieces.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 4 2021 20:07 utc | 179

c!ue @178--

And here's the troll coming to provide cover. Try and twist this:

"“In total, Amazon stole nearly one-third of drivers’ tips to pad its own bottom line,” said FTC Commissioner Rohit Chopra. [My Emphasis]

That was the verdict by the regulator!!!!

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 4 2021 20:10 utc | 180

Machine translation of a paragraph, today's conversation between Blinken and Lavrov:

In connection with the situation raised by E. Blinken around A. Navalny, the Minister gave detailed explanations about the need to respect the legislation and the judicial system of the Russian Federation. He drew the attention of the Secretary of State to the problems related to the prosecution in the United States of persons who protested in connection with the results of the presidential election, and called for transparency of the relevant judicial procedures.

Diplomacy at work, good manners is the minimum required.

Posted by: Paco | Feb 4 2021 20:12 utc | 181

This situation would be greatly clarified if PRC would allow visits by the International Red Cross, or similar organization. Thereby China could give the lie to this insidious Western propaganda and greatly enhance it's prestige if the claims are exaggerated or totally false.

Posted by: berk | Feb 4 2021 20:24 utc | 182

The trial VK sites against Ivermectin was only of a single dose against placebo. Would be better with some follow up doses. But, it still found reductions in viral loads. The PCR results which are it's main metric aren't really relevent. In a therapeutic, we are looking for a reduction in symptom severity, rather than being clear on a PCR. There are plenty of RCT's showing strong results, not really any evidence against...

Posted by: WastedTalent | Feb 4 2021 20:43 utc | 183

c1ue @175

There is no point in my arguing about it as we are almost certain to have the pleasure of watching the economy's ongoing train wreck in realtime. Attempting to bail out a portion of the population will be tried and we will get to see the results.

America's service economy was built upon the back of a manufacturing economy. Like an arch that has been built over a hill of soil that has since been removed, America's service economy remained even after the manufacturing economy was lost. Now that arch has collapsed there is no way to build it back.

Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 4 2021 21:06 utc | 185

berk @182

Maybe China should let the OPCW in to "investigate". Of course, then we would be treated to the spectacular tale of Uighurs being novichoked.

Better yet, China should invite WADA to see what is going on in Xinjiang, but then we would find out that the Uighurs are being doped.

I suspect that if the Red Cross did the investigation we would learn that Uighurs are being exsanguinated and their blood sold for immense profits.

Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 4 2021 21:14 utc | 186

It is real clear ( very few things are ever clear, but this is) that US and it’s European vassals have totally failed the covid test. Canada and Mexico as American dependencies are also in the muck. The only other country doing so poorly is Brazil, currently operated out of Langley with a psychotic local frontman. Politically or medically the failure is complete and evident to everyone. “The science” is subsidiary to Pharma and to Intelligence. The medical establishment is utterly disgraced. That would include the primary referee journals.

The bleeping vaccine is brought to you by DARPA, In-Q-Tel, the Gates Foundation, the Clinton Foundation and Jeffrey Epstein. Stunning that supposed leftists give a second of credence to the not-a-vaccine. It is untested gene therapy from the bowels of the military and spookdom.

Any claiming daily that Marxism and history are sciences does not know the meaning of words.

There is currently nothing to replace western medical “science”. Given time Russia and China might do something, for time being it is not there and does not translate. I would assume there are capable researchers in lots of places, there is no intact system for them to be heard. The Empire is crumbling, expect collateral damage.

Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 4 2021 21:39 utc | 187

Posted by: BM | Feb 4 2021 19:08 utc | 171

Shoigu of Myanmar: That's very interesting, thank you. I didn't know the Russians were busy in Myanmar, although now I think of it, it is not surprising.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 4 2021 19:27 utc | 173

Lavrov presser: That was a pleasure, thank you. I saw part of that earlier somewhere, but hadn't read the whole thing. I'll have to bookmark that site.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 4 2021 21:42 utc | 188

Another exciting look into the workings of Russia's economy and an assessment of its progress, particularly in the Agricultural sector: "Working meeting with Minister of Economic Development Maxim Reshetnikov." These two paragraphs IMO are fascinating for what's revealed, but they're just a small portion of the entire report:

"Why, Mr President, do we have to resolve these not so much difficulties, as tasks. For example, we do not have our own grain market indicator. For reference, Russia is the largest grain exporter, but we urgently need to develop exchange trade, so that we have our own grain exchange with a significant turnover, and our own market indicator. We understand what needs to be done, and the Prime Minister has set the same tasks, so we will work on that. But before that, as soon as April 1, we plan to launch contract registration. I mean, we will also take one of the exchanges, and all exporters will register their contracts.

"Why is this important? Because we could certainly take the customs service’s price, for example, as the indicative price. But that would come from old contracts, so by and large, that would be an irrelevant price – 230 or 240 in that old contract, when new ones are concluded at 300. We will not be able to protect our market. That is why it is so important for us to establish that indicator. And we are working on it now." [My Emphasis]

No commodity exchange like Chicago's Board of Trade!?! Wow! When Russia finally gets that "indicator" mechanism up and running, its economy will become even stronger with greater resiliency. And you'll also read that compared with the EU's economic performance during the pandemic, Russia was better even with the sanctions. Some may recall that a few months ago Putin proposed further cuts to Russia's overall defense budget so it could provide more support for its programs aimed at developing its human capital.

William Gruff @185--

When I read reports like the one linked to above, I try to imagine what the USA might look like if its priorities were like Russia's and China's and not made to work for just a tiny number of already rich people. It's so fucking tragic because it all could be so much different and close to Utopian rather than driving toward Dystopia.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 4 2021 21:51 utc | 189

Simply put, the Bear is Pissed-off:

"Zakharova then slammed the presence of foreign diplomats at the hearing as a 'political rally,' vowing that Moscow would react to every case of interference in domestic affairs by foreign diplomats."

Oh to have a bug on the wall for tomorrow's meeting between Lavrov and Borrell!

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 4 2021 22:47 utc | 190

@ uncle tungsten | Feb 4 2021 9:20 utc | 113...... thanks! i agree.. the article is quite good...

Posted by: james | Feb 4 2021 23:46 utc | 191

@ WastedTalent | Feb 4 2021 20:43 utc | 183

The trial VK sites against Ivermectin was only of a single dose against placebo....

I had already debunked this with the same argument in #69. Now he is bringing it up again. That's what trolls do....

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Feb 5 2021 1:12 utc | 192

Recomended long read detailing the network of Pierre Omidyar's civil society NGOs:

The billionaire takeover of civil society

It shows how billionaires sheepdog nice but dim middle-class progressives into furthering the goals of the capitalist class.

Posted by: Ash Naz | Feb 5 2021 1:16 utc | 193

@Suzan 100

Why wouldn't mr Anonymous put their real name on that "paper"? because it's laughingly bad. I read it, and basically it repeats the same 3 silly comments several times: Save the dollar as world currency, get cozy with Russia against China and somehow prevail. Thats pretty much it. No wonder mr Anonymous declined to put his name on it and chose to remind anonymous.
No way Russia will ever trust USA, so thats out.
Abotu the dollar: Today on Zerohedge was reveled China WILL be introducing digital currency THIS YEAR

Posted by: Hoyeru | Feb 5 2021 1:53 utc | 194

c1ue # 154 ignorantly spewed:
"Your argument would be more effective if the Soviet Union had not failed." FFS your level of comprehension is nothing short of appalling!

For anyone reading this who is puzzled at such a storm in a teacup, here is the entirety of my post at #103:

Arguments about whether state capitalism can beat pure elite capitalism are pointless. Both of these models are infinitely worse than socialism where productivity and all decisions around it is in the control of the actual producers, the actual blokes & blokettes producing whatever they do.

In the end as far as both the producers and the population of the nation concerned they don't give a flying f#ck whether the smarmy shiny arsed suit making damn stupid decisions claims to work for 'Private Equity' or 'The State' the result is inevitably similar - that is whatever suits the suits wherever it is that they hang out - which always somewhere far away from the blokes & blokettes.

The fact that the USSR failed is my point, the USSR was the epitome of state capitalism, that is that huge centralised enterprises run by decision makers far removed from the industry's basis, inevitably lead to poor decision-making and failure, whether they be capitalist or pseudo socialist ie state capitalist.
In the west those large industries especially manufacturing failed dramatically by the end of the 20th century because after having spent years on life support via tariffs preferential government contracts and all the other subsidies which gave to the rich whilst the actual producers were ground further & further down with anti-union policies & laws, casualisation of the workforce finally failed as nation states like amerika were forced to quit protectionism & subsidies & dumping.

The house of cards collapsed, but in the west the boss class & owners were rewarded with handouts to encourage them into the financialisation parasitic scam.

Both western capitalism and state capitalism have been massive failures.
amerikans & englanders are fond of using Chernobyl as an example of the failure of state capitalism but they rarely if ever mention the much bigger damage done to the environment and virtually every living creature by DuPont's release of PFOA's into earth's environment. As I understand it, since DuPont began manufacturing and proliferating this substance (which never occurs naturally) into our world from 1951, because they wanted to corner the market on non-stick cookware, more than 95% of our planet's population have been contaminated by carcinogenic PFOA's a compound which just accumulates as we have no way of getting rid of it once contaminated.

That is just one of many. Anyone could have made that error but only a huge centralised conglomerate such as DuPont would have been willing and able to cover up the toxification of the planet for more than 50 years.
This was easy to do DuPont bought the politicians who controlled the agencies which are meant to protect.

The traces of this are still visible, right there for anyone, the media plays ignorant. The current Biden nominee for EPA boss made his bones as a DuPont lawyer denigrating and lying to terminal cancer victims including children who were dying from PFOA induced cancers, in order to "protect the shareholders".

There are degrees of foulness across the spectrum of capitalist enterprises and pure western capitalism appears to be the most foul.
The old USSR has some nasty skeletons in its closet (see the attempt to increase agricultural production in Monrovia with irradiated crop seeds) but none of 'em ran nearly as long as western capitalist scams such as the PFOA one, most likely because, the primary motivation for state capitalist cover ups is to prevent career embarrassment & is generational, whereas western capitalism is entirely driven by greed & profit and that is cross generational.

Anyway back to the main point - if you insist on continuing in this pathetic endeavour to boost yourself to yourself by trying to critique others posts but never offering anything useful just negativity, I earnestly suggest that you put more effort into reading & comprehending what is posted that you wish to critique. Otherwise you will continue to come across as a pathetic drongo type who adds nothing of use to the dialogue at MoA.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Feb 5 2021 3:05 utc | 195

Debsisdead | Feb 5 2021 3:05 utc | 195

For many years there have been references to "the senator from Dupont". IIRC, I noted it prior to the polyfluoro-suits gaining traction against Dupont and even before that corp spun-off its Teflon ops.

IMO, it was simple coinkydink---not. JoeBNotTooBright was perfectly pre-positioned, and still is, to "discourage" legal actions, especially to preclude Class-Action suits, the absence of which isolates each suit to be argued and fought sorta like 1-at-a-time...and justice be damned.

Financialization overwhumps justice, aka fairness; seemingly every time. The corollary is quite possible...that the spectre of demonstrated justice must be ever present before financialization can be stopped. The latter only exists to undercut justice.

IMO, the hallmark of feudalism is ownership [as ultimate authority] of the productive land by the few; all the rest are dpwntrodden .

Posted by: chu teh | Feb 5 2021 5:27 utc | 196

...and financialization is the chosen road to feudalism.

Posted by: chu teh | Feb 5 2021 5:31 utc | 197

What do these insane clowns in the USA elite not understand?

(However, on a positive note, it sounds between the lines like some real-world gravitas may be permeating through the cognitive dissonance)

So, while the 'woke' generation are passing out at the thought of using the wrong pronoun or (god forbid) white/black prefix, the current crazies in charge are contemplating the end of the world as we know it.

Let's be quite clear, Russia is a decade ahead of the USA in military defense and offence terms. And China has enough missile power to sink the US navy 10-times over (at least) in a matter of 20 minutes.

Russia's president Putin announced 2-3 years ago that due to USA/EU/Nato missile warhead ambiguity (under Obama & Trump) the Russian Federation has no choice other than to assume a nuclear attack with any incoming missiles to Russian territory... and the reply will be instant and total towards EU and USA etc. Russian civilization will exist on its own terms, or no one will. End of story.

"Richard said the US military must "shift its principal assumption from 'nuclear employment is not possible' to 'nuclear employment is a very real possibility,' and act to meet and deter that reality.""

As I read it:

1. A long-winded way of saying "we must face reality" ...
"The implications of today’s competition and the associated risk of great power crisis or direct armed conflict are profound; they affect nearly every fundamental assumption we make about the use of armed force in the defense of the nation and its allies. Until we, as a department, come to understand, if not accept, what we are facing and what should be done about it, we run the risk of developing plans we cannot execute and procuring capabilities that will not deliver desired outcomes. In the absence of change, we are on the path, once again, to prepare for the conflict we prefer, instead of one we are likely to face. It is through this lens that we must take a hard look at how we intend to compete against and deter our adversaries, assure our allies, and appropriately shape the future joint force."

2. Another key statement:
"Great power competition does not span four quarters or nine innings, and our competitors are no less committed than we are. Instead, we should view competition as the maintenance of relative advantage over competitors. It is an infinite game, one in which the goal is to remain a dominant player."

3. And concludes with key phrases: "across the enterprise"; "adapt"; "their decision calculus"; "our nuclear-capable peers"; "holistic risk assessment process"; "come to a broad understanding"; "risk suffering embarrassment"; ...
"While this is a sobering picture, it is not intended to discourage; rather, it is meant to highlight reality and reinvigorate a conversation across the enterprise. Our challenges are not insurmountable. Time and again, DoD has demonstrated its willingness and ability to address changing environments. We must adapt to today’s strategic environment by understanding our opponents’ threats and their decision calculus. We must also accept the gauntlet of great power competition with our nuclear-capable peers. It is through a holistic risk assessment process that we can better align national resources and military readiness to ensure strategic security. In the end, it comes back to the threat. Until we come to a broad understanding of what the threat is and what to do about it, we risk suffering embarrassment—or perhaps worse—at the hands of our adversaries."

4. It's called "The Thucydides Trap" ...

[Story also reflected on ZeroHedge)

Posted by: imo | Feb 5 2021 7:07 utc | 198

suzan @ 100 thanks this is what i got out of that report.
Atlantic council proposes USA strategy to counter China’s CPP geopolitical strategy,
USA status quo <==structural & functional difference ==> Nationalist Xi in China.
USA Rule of law <== coercive national unity ==> ethno nationalism.
Allow no competition <==China now as America before 1913 ==> system, policy.
Revision power <==CPP governed China v oligarch governed America ==> Revisionist power.
western propaganda <==Totalitarian police state see ref below ==> Eastern Propaganda.
3000 owners of USA <== who do you believe? ==> 91 million members of CPP.
1% own 99% of wealth <== Oligarch wealth is out of bounds ==> Xi family CPP wealth .
federalism <== decision and control in both China and USA ==> Centralized, authoritarian.
- - - - - - ---
Oligarchs @ USA has it <== quest for technological power ==> Chinese Oligarchs Wants it.
Oligarchs @ USA has it <== quest for technology power ==> Chinese Oligarchs Wants it.
Oligarchs @ USA has it <== military superpower capacity ==> Chinese Oligarchs Wants it.
Oligarchs @ USA has it <== bandwagon credibility, influence ==> Chinese Oligarchs Wants it.
Oligarchs @ USA has it <== strategic partnership w/super power ==> Chinese Oligarchs Wants it.
Oligarchs @ USA want it <== Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) ==> Chinese Oligarchs Wants it.
Oligarchs @ USA have it <==Global Reserve Dollar Status ==> Chinese Oligarchs Wants it.
Oligarchs @ USA have it <==territorial growth and dominance ==> Chinese Oligarchs Wants it.

Those who wrote the report found “The overriding political objective should be to cause China’s elite leadership to collectively conclude it is in "the interest of the oligarchs in charge of China to allow the existing US-led liberal international order to stand as is.
The alternative for the USA based oligarchs would require them to build a rival (to China). Then the report threatens China's CPP, by stating if the CPP wishes to remain in power at home, it should not to attempt to expand China’s borders or to export its political model beyond China’s shores.

IMO the overriding political objective of Americans should be <=to force American Industry to return home, <=to close the borders to foreign anything and <=to suffer as a nation until America (not the USA) can reestablish its technological know how and can create from that know-how the industrial might needed to
make America great for those living in America. to hell with the globalist and their wealth. Nothing in the report talks about the use of the nation state to create the monopoly powers (copyrights and patents) that concentrate the wealth in such a few people on either side of the nation state divide.

It is arguable to suggest “the USA governed America” is less authoritarian than “CPP governed China”.
Kennan containment destroyed and transformed the thriving American industrial base into a global POS..

Can you believe it, the report says Oligarch controlled USA hegemonic powers is necessary for the Oligarch owned USA. And to do that the Oligarch owned USA should adopt and maintain its “Allow no competition” policy by adhering to seven integrated policy components (none of which Americans think important, desirable or necessary): retain L-T national power, red line deterrence policy, continuously frustrate China with enforcement of non essential national security interest claims, use state subsidized competition to deny China, and pretend to be cooperative in addressing mega threat issues. The same kind of containment policy adopted by the oil and slave bandits against Germany that led to WWI.

1.”>horror that does no harm

i would say the report is about generating hell for the citizens of the world.

Posted by: snake | Feb 5 2021 7:12 utc | 199

This is the way the empire ends, not with a bang but a whimper.

Paul Desmond take on that:

There she goes, not with a whim but a banker.

Not too bad, could have been a w instead of a b.

No way to compare Paul Desmond with Naleksey Analny.

The day US music gives us another Chet Baker together with Paul Desmond, then we’ll be able to talk about MAGA

We'll see what happens today with mister PESC Borrell in Moscow, he is there to scold bad boy Lavrov, some fun guaranteed.

Posted by: Paco | Feb 5 2021 7:20 utc | 200

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