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January 31, 2021
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Xinjiang Government answers to those clowns from The Intercept and their ridiculous “gigaleak” from local police stations:
Hyping Xinjiang topic to contain China may further damage bilateral ties, experts warn US
Xinjiang welcomes officials from new US govt to visit, opposes presumption of guilt

Posted by: vk | Feb 2 2021 1:57 utc | 201

Crooke again:

    “When Ray Dalio, the well-known Davos devotee, and CIO of Bridgewater, the world’s biggest investment fund, in recent days suggested that, “We [America] are on the brink of a terrible civil war”, ZeroHedge (a leading U.S. financial web-site), reminded Dalio that more than a decade ago, it had warned, even then, that the Fed’s unconstrained monetary lunacy (Quantitative Easing) would eventually result in civil war – a prediction for which ZeroHedge was much mocked at the time.
    “Yet it was prescient. The kick-the-can, debt-led response to the 2008 financial crisis of rolling-over ever larger mountains of debt (‘printing’ more money/debt) at zero interest rates, has been responsible for a massive transfer of purchasing power from the 60% to the 1%; responsible for gaping wealth inequalities; for the concentration of the economic means (and political power) in the hands of the oligarchy – in tandem with the incrementally growing stultification of the ‘deplorable’ sector of the economy. In ZeroHedge’s words of that time, this sector of the American public was being ‘thrown under the bus by the Federal Reserve’.
    “In short, the rise of the Deplorable constituency – associated with Trumpism – is not the cause of today’s crisis, but its symptom. ZeroHedge challenges Dalio to admit this truth.”

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 2 2021 0:49 utc | 193
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What Crooke seems to be admitting is that one would be far better informed were one to get one’s Economic info from Zerohedge, rather than having the same info regurgitated a decade later by Bitcoin ponzi scheme promoter Max Keiser

Posted by: Triden | Feb 2 2021 2:07 utc | 202

@ Grieved | Feb 2 2021 1:02 utc | 194
You are so very welcome. I too, learn so much here….

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Feb 2 2021 2:11 utc | 203

james 155
When in doubt, round up the UsualSuspect,
you wont be far off the mark !
faq
Q] Has ‘China’s aggressiveness driven away all its neighbors towards the great satan’ ?
A] That’s another monumental lie from the united snakes.
Fact is…in the past 7 decades,
Every single leader who’s friendly to China has been taken out and replaced by Washington’s puppet, by soft coup [ex jp], palace coup [ex Whitnam] , down to murder [ex Nepal’s king Birendra’s entire family wiped out in 2001] and outright genocide [the mother of all regime change in indon, 1965, to remove pro Beijing prez Sukarno with CIA asset Suharto, collateral damages estimated at 3M, including almost the entire Chinese community]
Here’s a partial list,
Panda huggers ousted, murdered, by CIA/MI6/RAW…
PM YIng LUck , Thailand,
PM Najib, Malaysia,
prez Arroyo, Ph,
prez Sukarno, INdon,
PM Hatoyama, jp,
prez Park Chung hue, SK,
PM Whitnam, Oz,
PM Lange , NZ,
PM Norman Kirk, NZ,
KIng BIrendra, Nepal,
KIng Gyanendra Nepa,
PM Oli, Napal
prez Rajapaksa, Sri Lanka
prez Yameen Maldives,
PM Rajiv Ghandi, India,
PM Alkatiri, E Timor,
PM Thinley, BHutan,
Tip of an iceberg.
The crap trap that China’s ‘aggressiveness’ drive off all its neighbors towards the great satan, has been debunked hundreds of times here by yours truly.
Yet day after day, you see murikkans insist on repeating that big lie.
Is lying built into murikkans DNA ?

Posted by: denk | Feb 2 2021 2:15 utc | 204

Below is a link to the latest Wall Street on Parade posting that sheds some interesting light on the GameStop situation
GameStop Short Squeeze: These Are the Big Wall Street Players Who Stood to Make Billions

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 2 2021 2:44 utc | 205

@198 Bemildred
I’ve started gathering a bookmark file on the deaths and misadventures resulting from vaccines. They all seem to be the Pfizer one so far.
I didn’t bookmark the earlier report on the Israelis who got dizzy, and the one that I believe was Norway where some elderly people died. I keep meaning to search them out before they age away, but the new deaths come faster than I can break away from.

Posted by: Grieved | Feb 2 2021 2:45 utc | 206

@ 202 denk… thanks! in answer to your last question – i think it is human nature to deceive and be deceived, but not all fall victim to it…. this is why propaganda is so insidious! keep on sharing your insights…

Posted by: james | Feb 2 2021 2:46 utc | 207

re oldhippie # 64
I beg to differ about your claim Elton John got an easy ride. As told to me by a cousin who was a bit of an Aristo as her paternal grandmother (the daughter of an earl), sailed to Aotearoa to “get away from it all”. My cuz went to London in the 1960’s and her family connections got her a job at Apple – the Beatles corporation. Anyway she told us of the time in the late 60’s that John turned up with some great demos but but Apple decided they wanted nothing to do with such an obvious ‘poofter’. He was stressed as he had been to nearly every label in London and he knew the demos were good but no one was interested. That is really weird given the number of gay men in record management & production. Maybe it was some sort of self-hating thing where they thought he could never be sold to straight fans. Anyway the dude was obviously upset so in the end someone suggested he go and see a bloke who had been working at Apple but who had gone off to put together his own label, “See Dick James” they said, I understand he bats for the same team as you”.
So that is what happened after a very long time trying to kick down locked doors John went to Dick James music who liked the demos and because James hadn’t much cash or other talent a really basic marketing plan was put together and John took off mainly by doing a 1970’s take on Liberace – “but ironic you know”.
He had no great connections – quite the opposite.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Feb 2 2021 2:46 utc | 208

Posted by: Grieved | Feb 2 2021 2:45 utc | 204
Yes, I remember those, perhaps a few more. Always Pfizer(?). Immune things. I’m not informed about medical issues, but I’m starting to think it’s going to be a problem. That’s why I posted it.
I’m seeing more young people with issues too, it’s not just old people any more. Some of that you might attribute to things being a little less abysmal in the elder care institutions, so the young cases make up more of them.
Pure chaos in Israel too, wonder how that is going go. It’s strange to witness this level of incompetence/misrule, so much more comfortable to think I’m nuts.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 2 2021 3:02 utc | 209

@202 denk – “Is lying built into murikkans DNA ?”
Well, yes and no. The people of the US are pretty heavily propagandized, as we all know, and one of the main repetitive themes is that “America is good”. This leads to the exceptionalism that we hear a lot about, but it’s not the thing itself.
The exceptionalism flows from a certain delusion that in turn is created by a technique that creates the cognitive dissonance that afflicts the policy-makers at the top, and which flows down through the corresponding media repetitions.
The message is quite old in the US, and very homogeneous. It recurs throughout the US discourse with no gaps, no pauses, no contradictions. And to break out of that propaganda is truly a process and a personal journey. That’s how strong it is.
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Larry Romanoff wrote a very important article about how this works just a week or so ago. I never found the time to share it here, but I recommend it unreservedly. It’s a masterpiece of describing precisely how the exceptionalist propaganda works. I think all people familiar with US culture will recognize the truths in it:
American Dystopia – The Propaganda Mask and the Utopia Syndrome
It’s very difficult to quote from but here goes:

…when political ideals diverge very widely from reality, the ideals themselves may prevent us from seeing the gap. When the official story differs greatly from the reality of practice, the official story becomes a kind of mask that prevents us from perceiving it.
[…]
It is of extreme importance for readers to realise and fully understand that expressions like ‘rule of law’, ‘freedom’, and ‘democratic values’ are merely hypothetical idealistic constructs. They are myths and, like all myths, they are “designed to serve an emotive rather than cognitive function, not to provide fact based on reason but as propaganda to arouse emotions in support of an idea”. (12)
[…]
The tenets [of “conventional wisdom”] have not actually been adhered to by any US government or indeed by the elites and their corporations, which means in Galbraith’s terms that the tenets are “highly acceptable in the abstract” rather than in reality. And this is the source of our dystopia of utopia in America today. We have the bizarre situation where this conventional wisdom – propaganda, in fact – makes a vigorous advocacy of these beliefs a substitute for behavior according to these beliefs.

It’s easy to say that the US populace is brainwashed – but the principal technique by which it works to trigger the voluntary dissonance, is worth examining, which Romanoff does in this article.

Posted by: Grieved | Feb 2 2021 3:18 utc | 210

Hmm, that’s two posts caught by the filters now. One was about Fauci the liar and bad man, and the other just now was a response to denk about how exactly the US propaganda works on its own population.
They’ll show up tomorrow I suppose, and they’ll take their place where they should have been. I can lose the Fauci one, but I’ll grab this last one for sure and repost it somewhere in the next open thread, because it refers to a somewhat unique article.

Posted by: Grieved | Feb 2 2021 3:27 utc | 211

@209
Oh. Never mind. It showed up at 208. I’ll use this as a plug for 208 then – highly recommend the article linked there.

Posted by: Grieved | Feb 2 2021 3:30 utc | 212

@ Bemildred | Feb 2 2021 3:02 utc | 207 who is questioning their sanity in the light of Covid related world events
I have always liked my extension of the Voltaire, “History is a lie commonly agreed to.” quote to
Sanity, like history, is a lie commonly agreed to.
When the response of a society to a crisis like this, manufactured or not, makes the problem worse all across the spectrum, I have to assume some level of purpose is involved other than to protect/serve the public. Certainly the elite can afford to get the best of health care and since they control the Western governments mostly, providing health care to the masses has never been a priority or the US would have single-payer insurance by now, at least.
If you think something is nuts, just look at the US stock market and debt bubbles being blown around the world…when do the fights start over FREE money?
As an aside to the FREE money thing I just want to report that in the US this past weekend I received in the mail a credit card looking piece of plastic that the accompanying literature seems to say is my latest FREE money, though they don’t say anywhere how much FREE money the card represents.
That said, they are very clear about the fees for using the card….who is MetaBank N.A. that has the contract with the Dept of Treasury for this boondoggle? I talked to a friend last evening who is on SSI like me and gets direct deposit like me and she got her latest $600 FREE money weeks ago deposited directly like her monthly SSI amount…..why did I get such special treatment?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 2 2021 3:37 utc | 213

https://japantoday.com/category/politics/main-opposition-leader-vows-to-meet-expectations-that-come-with-power
It seems there’s hope for Japan, coming this October 2021. For Japan to survive, the LDP must be ousted from power and there’s a golden chance here with them mishandling the pandemic, the opposition manages to unite and it’s being led by Yukio Edano, who was popular among the japanese for being active during the Fukushima leakage.
Even if Edano wins, there’s still a high chance he gets soft-couped like Hatoyama.

Posted by: Smith | Feb 2 2021 3:41 utc | 214

Grieved 208
Larry Romanoff produced several excellent expose’ of the fukus covid biowarfare.
I will surely take the time to explore his latest insight on the fukus failed state.

Posted by: denk | Feb 2 2021 3:46 utc | 215

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 2 2021 3:37 utc | 211
I have always liked my extension of the Voltaire, “History is a lie commonly agreed to.”
Yes, I quite agree. I like “90% of everything we know is bullshit” too.
It seems pretty clear that our poor showing in the Test of Corona was affirmatively helped along by various parties and it would be nice to have that looked into, but then there are so many thing to look into now.
I got my $600 on January 4th smack in my checking account, so I expect you got the debit card because they don’t have your checking account info. I made sure they had mine last year with my tax returns.
With anything the Congress does these days, they will take such opportunities as they find to make a racket out of it. We have RICO laws, I’ll bet we could make a lot of use of them.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 2 2021 3:55 utc | 216

@ Grieved | Feb 2 2021 3:27 utc | 209
something has changed with the filtering system here… we now have to be more patient and watch them appear shortly afterwards, as opposed to right afterwards..
thanks for sharing your post @208

Posted by: james | Feb 2 2021 4:04 utc | 217

at this point i think the reason for the changed settings on b’s part had to do with the spammer from arabia last night… that was over the top..

Posted by: james | Feb 2 2021 4:07 utc | 218

@ Bemildred #214 who didn’t read clearly that I have been getting direct deposit for years so no excuse for not getting the $600 deposited in my checking account like friend.
@ Grieved 208/210 with the Saker link…thanks.
My extracted quote

Through their generations of propaganda, programming and brainwashing, most Americans live in an indispersible fog of mass delusion and self-deception in which black is white but which they inexplicably fail to fathom. From their ignorance and simple-mindedness created by their excessive utopian programming, Americans see their country’s prosecution of wars, the cannibalisation of nations and the single-minded devotion to the profit of a few elites, as the promotion of democracy and freedom, and are apparently incapable of the minor clarity of thought necessary to see that their murderous and greedy actions have absolutely nothing to do with either freedom or democracy.

I have passed the link around to friends and encourage others to read and share the excellent posting

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 2 2021 4:08 utc | 219

Below is a Xinhuanet posting that shows China being proactive regarding what they see as negative implications of cell phone usage. Their decisions in support of their children is not compromised, like in the West, by the profit cult.

BEIJING, Feb. 1 (Xinhua) — China’s primary and middle schools have introduced a ban on mobile phone use in classrooms, among wider efforts to protect pupils from internet and video game addiction.
Primary and middle school students should not bring mobile phones into classrooms, according to a circular from the Ministry of Education (MOE) on phones on campus.
If students must have a mobile phone at school, a special request should be submitted to school authorities along with written consent from their guardians, said the MOE.
Once the request has been approved, students should hand in their mobile phones to relevant school authorities upon arrival. The phones will be kept together and should by no means be allowed into classrooms, according to the circular.
Further measures will be put in place by schools to better meet students’ needs in reaching their parents over the phone while on campus.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 2 2021 4:46 utc | 220

Below, again from Xinjuanet, is a posting about Myanmar that is concise but detailed

YANGON, Feb. 1 (Xinhua) — Myanmar military announced a major cabinet reshuffle hours after a state of emergency was declared on Monday.
Under the cabinet reshuffle, new union ministers were appointed for 11 ministries while 24 deputy ministers were removed from their posts, the military’s statement said.
Union Chief Justice and Judges of the Supreme Court of the Union, Chief Justices and Judges of Regional or State High Courts are allowed to remain in office, according to the military’s statement.
Members of Anti-Corruption Commission, chairman, vice chairman and members of the Myanmar National Human Rights Commission will also remain in office.
Chairmen and members of the Nay Pyi Taw Council and the Union Civil Service Board will be removed from their posts while a new chairman is appointed for the Union Civil Service Board, the statement said.
The move came after the President’s Office declared a state of emergency for one year and the legislative, executive and judicial powers were handed over to the Commander-in-Chief of Defence Services earlier Monday.
Myanmar leaders including State Counsellor Aung San Suu Kyi, President U Win Myint, regional and state ministers and some central executive committee members of the ruling National League for Democracy (NLD) were detained by the military in the early hours of Monday.
The military also announced earlier Monday that the Union Election Commission (UEC) will be reformed and the electoral process in the parliamentary elections held in November last year will be reviewed in accordance with the law during the state of emergency.
The military has called on the government and the UEC to review the election results, noting that there were some irregularities in the voting process in the previous months.
“When these tasks have been completed in accord with the provisions of the State of Emergency, free and fair multiparty general elections will be held and the assigned duty of the state will be handed over to the winning party meeting norms and standards of democracy,” the earlier military statement said.
Myanmar held its multiparty general elections on Nov. 8 last year and the ruling NLD won a majority of seats in both Houses of the Union Parliament.
At present, access to state-run broadcasting channels and telecommunications have resumed after being cut off for some hours across the country earlier Monday.
All local banks will resume their services starting Tuesday, Myanmar Banks Association issued a directive on Monday.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 2 2021 4:57 utc | 221

Just a coupla things about Greived’s post & link at # 208. I hate to say it but I believe there may be exceptionalism in Larry Romanoff ‘s article, in that Romanoff refers to “the Propaganda Mask and the Utopia Syndrome” as if they were a purely amerikan syndrome when I consider many if not all nation states suffer to some extent from this tosh.
Yep amerika has it bad, but I wonder if the nonsense that Victorian englanders were lulled into complacency by was any better. Or France or Rome or anyone. Hell even here in Aotearoa in an amazing feat of contortion the fishwraps are full of articles about how “we lead the world in keeping our citizens safe from Covid” while the rightist rags spare no effort in excoriating the neolib government for not managing Covid better.
The issue here in Aotearoa should be how our covidless condition is more lucky than anything else given the propensity for allowing any billionaire & his/her entourage to come here, no worries, if they say they want to support their america’s cup side or reckon they atr going to make a movie TV series. Just like the amerikans in Romanoff’s article most kiwis simultaneously cling to the belief that it is great that anyone with a few bucks can come here at the same time as they believe “we have the most sure protection against covid 19 on the planet”.
In saying that I will concede that amerika’s wrap around 24/7/365 indoctrination is less challenged in amerika than it is any any other country , but quite a number of other nation states are close behind amerika, particularly england whose media over the last decade have become unanimous in their support of deceitful propaganda.
I came across a new term last week called “Ludonarrative Dissonance”. WTF is Ludonarrative Dissonance?
Easy to quote that consistently truth telling reference work Wikipedia /snark, Ludonarrative Dissonance is about “the conflict between a video game’s narrative told through the story and the narrative told through the gameplay.”
Gamers know that this is a really common occurrence, many if not most RPG’s, FPS, open world adventure games run a story line that is often completely at odds with the world and action which the gamer faces in game.
Yet gamers lap it up why? Part of the reason is that few gamers pay much attention to the ‘story’, the other reason is we have become used to it. When is the last time you bought something/anything whose description on the can matched with your experience of the item you bought. Pretty rare right we live in a world of deception and I cannot see pointing out that awful fact can change anything.
We have two choices we can ‘do a Trump’ and spread our own deceit or we can try the hard way – only speaking the truth and hoping that slowly more and more humans will come to recognise and respect the truth – if they ever do.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Feb 2 2021 7:36 utc | 222

Grieved @ 204:
There has been news on the Sputnik News and RT.com websites that the number of people who have died in Gibraltar (total population 1,000) after receiving the Pfizer “vaccine” shots is 53. The number of Gibraltarians who died from COVID-19 over the past 12 months is 16. So the chances of a Gibraltarian dying after receiving the Pfizer treatment are more than 3 times greater than dying from the disease itself.

Posted by: Jen | Feb 2 2021 8:31 utc | 223

The FSB recording of the (not very)secret meeting of Vladimir Ashurkov’s (of Integrity Initiative fame) with an MI6 man is disturbing. Ashurkov says it should be made clear to the Russian elites that Navalny is not a threat to them. So how is Navalny fighting corruption again? By declaring Putin the spider at the center of a web and claiming removing the spider will fix things?
If you see corruption as widespread and best represented by the elites, then what is replacing Putin and keeping the elites safe supposed to achieve?
I try to keep the option open that Navalny has a sincere agenda but with this attitude even the agenda is too compromised and all that is left is the western agenda.

Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Feb 2 2021 8:45 utc | 224

Addendum to my #121…
link
…as the integers slowly make their way through the turnstile.

Posted by: john | Feb 2 2021 8:58 utc | 225

As of NASA: The USA does at least have a civil space program seperate from it`s military program. Most other countries do not. The reason is that space technology in inherently “duel use” technology. You can build a rocket in order to get a scientific sattelite into orbit or in order to get a nuclear bomb at a city on another continent. You can use an earth observation sattelite for scientific research or for spying on other countries.
Marx considered capitalsim as a progressive force in comparison of what had been before. It did establish the “bourgeoise liberties” (human rights) and unleash new “productive forces” which leads to great progress in science, arts, transportation administration etc.
If I understand Hudson correctly what he means is that most of Marx wiriting is implicitly based on the assumption of a functioning capitalism. What in what vk calls “bourgeoise economics” is referred to as market economy. Game Stop Corp scandal might serve as an example. Yes, the game is supposed to be rigged, but in the sence that rules of the game/laws of the market lead to a capitalist win. The capitalists play by the rules and win, the workers are supposed to strive for a change of rules (revolution) in order to have a chance to win, too. The capitalist are not supposed to win by changing the rules mid-game. Restricting competition and regulating the financial market is dedicated un-capitalist (pre-capitlist) move.
Hudsons analysis is mostly very insightful but his last few paragraphs where he dogmatically tries to shoehorn is theory into the capitalism vs. socialism dualism (finincial capitalism vs industrial capitalism/proto-socialism) is just disappointing. The low is his ressurection of the notion of “fascism” out of nowhere just in order to signal to his audiance that the (financial) capitalists are realy, realy evil and that it`s now time to start hating. That`s just really poor.

Posted by: m | Feb 2 2021 9:01 utc | 226

john | Feb 2 2021 8:58 utc | 226
I remember at the beginning of this pandemic some poster came here and pretty much said what we needed to do was just carry on and get the disease. the weak would die off and we would move on. general consensus from the posters at that time is that was a horrible idea and totally unthinkable.
turns out he/she was probably right. I remember reading about how to deal with flu when it hits your family and the recommendation was for everyone to get into bed together, drink plenty of fluids, and wait it out.
I believe we could have done the same thing had our hospitals been able to handle the task of taking care of the really sick at the time. That is still the biggest tragedy of the whole Corona virus horrorshow in that even after SARS and now Covid we still not have decent medical for our population. and no one talks about it.

Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 2 2021 9:57 utc | 227

“Imperial expansion on a global scale only became possible once shipping technology….”
The Bronze Age happened with tin mined in Cornwall. Whether Greek, Egyptian, or Persian bronze, the tin came from Cornwall. Those who provided the shipping also furnished the banking. Banks and bankers and networks of colonies were required to make the Bronze Age.
The pieces and the framework to build current era capitalism have been in place a very long time. Put in place five millennia ago.

Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 2 2021 10:34 utc | 228

More that twenty foreign diplomats present during Navalny’s court appearence today in Moscow. I wonder if as many will show up when the Capitol rioters are brought before a judge. Interference they say..

Posted by: Paco | Feb 2 2021 10:39 utc | 229

Zakharova did not rule out that foreign diplomats at the trial in the Navalny case are concerned about the fate of “the millions pumped into illegal activities in Russia.”
“Or is it an attempt to put psychological pressure on the judge?“
“Let me remind you that traditionally, diplomats in foreign courts support their citizens. Even if westerners consider Navalny as “their own”, he is a citizen of the Russian Federation”
Sharp as usual. Bad investments, that’s where US taxpayers money has gone.

Posted by: Paco | Feb 2 2021 10:55 utc | 230

dan of steele
I remember at the beginning of this pandemic some poster came here and pretty much said what we needed to do was just carry on and get the disease
It was probably Russ, could’ve been me. Yeah, there were heads exploding galore at the thought of old people actually dying(many of whom could’ve been saved had they done the one thing they didn’t do, i.e. protect the vulnerable). Our example(I believe you’re in Italy as well) is actually quite a testament to the preeminence of the healthcare system here…it keeps heaps of old folks alive, albeit often with one foot in the grave.
I remember reading about how to deal with flu when it hits your family and the recommendation was for everyone to get into bed together, drink plenty of fluids, and wait it out
Yeah, really, and maybe binge on the old Prisoner series,…or whatever floats your boat.

Posted by: john | Feb 2 2021 11:05 utc | 231

VK
Marx is not enough. Marx will take you someway to understanding how the crisis of capitalism arises (essentially, the end of a ponzi scheme) but leads to the assumption that Capitalism will just allow itself to collapse.
Capitalism, effectively owning everything, may essentially begin to act as a cartel (rather than competitors) and (effectively) controlling all policitics and professions, would be attracted to changing capitalism and free markets into feudalism, and customers into slaves (and fewer of them as well).
In the absence of new markets to exploit or others capital to destroy (war being a riskier far less profitable endeavour than previously), in my view, that it is what is happening. In your view Capitalists are doing everything they can to save us; how realistic is that, really?
Don’t be lulled into complacency by dated understandings of Marx, and don’t waste your time reading the 3, 4 or 5 volumes of Das Kapital at this moment in history. Protest and action is what is needed and what is sorely lacking.
In my view, we are sleep walking to our doom. In your view (effectively) and that of b and Debsisdead (and many others), we have some welcome free time to lounge around and get fat. What do capitalists do to unproductive units? They scrap them!

Posted by: ADKC | Feb 2 2021 11:19 utc | 232

@ Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 2 2021 10:34 utc | 229
Bronze Age civilization didn’t use tin from Cornwall. It used tin “from specific mines in the Badakhshan region of Afghanistan and had to be brought overland all the way to sites in Mesopotamia (modern Iraq) and north Syria, from where it was distributed to points farther north, south, or west, including onward across the sea to the Aegean.” (Bell, apud Cline, 2014).
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@ Posted by: ADKC | Feb 2 2021 11:19 utc | 233
Capitalism doesn’t need competition. Competition doesn’t define the capitalist system.
Marx’s theory covers all cases you’re talking about – including the false dichotomy between competition and monopoly. Capitalism always has concentration (expansion) and centralization (monopolization), with phases where one is stronger than the other. Usually, centralization prevails when capitalism is in crisis, while concentration prevails when capitalism is booming. But both movements always happen concomitant to one another, at some degree.

Posted by: vk | Feb 2 2021 11:33 utc | 233

These are the “democratic” examples for the world to follow:
1. USA
2. EU representatives
3. Great Britain
4. Germany
5. Switzerland
6. Netherlands
7. Sweden
8. Austria
9. Czech Republic
10. Lithuania
11. Canada
12. Latvia
13. Poland
14. Norway
So when the Capitol rioters are judged representatives from the following countries might be allowed into the court room.
Cuba
North Korea
Iran
Venezuela
Irak
China
Russia
Syria
Sudan
Somalia
Yemen
Afganistan
Myanmar
Viet Nam

Posted by: Paco | Feb 2 2021 12:03 utc | 234

Paco | Feb 2 2021 10:55 utc | 231
Compared to the Assange hearing, the difference in treatment of the “public” is remarkable in itself. If that was in europe, outside would have been the only place they could meet to work out what their next steps were going to be. (s)
If I was being nasty I would suggest that perhaps the Russians should do the same as the UK. Put Navalny in solitary confinement until the US completes the extradition for one of “its subjects”?

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 2 2021 12:04 utc | 235

Had to look up your friend Preobrazhensky. I knew the regiment of course. Had once upon a time seen a copy of ABC of Communism and only associated that with Bukharin. So check the photo files and see what this guy looks like. Round face, short nose, almost a pug nose. Every photo is an obvious paste job, head stuck on a body. And repainted until nothing is left. Then a photo of older Preo B. Long nose, obviously Jewish. Still lots of repaint, head sits queasy on body but maybe. Had thought for a while the vk routine was straight out of 1920s Comintern. Makes sense now.
Those Bronze Age mines in Cornwall. They must have only served the local market I guess. That makes sense. Bronze Age ships unearthed from beneath Cornish harbors must have been working the tourist cruises. And of course there must be abundant evidence of caravans and caravan routes across Afghanistan and Persia. Guess those were all hidden until 2014. Strings of still extant towns founded by Phoenicians all pointed towards Cornwall, they started those because they needed fish.

Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 2 2021 12:08 utc | 236

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 2 2021 4:08 utc | 220
No, I’ve been getting direct deposit for years too. I’m saying I had to make sure the IRS had the direct deposit info before I got the stimulus checks that way. I got the first one by check/mail, later was direct dep. after I informed the IRS. Sorry if I was unclear.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 2 2021 12:10 utc | 237

I see that the US is coming to the conclusion that it cannot stop the last few kilometers of NordStream II being built. (Only Russian ships are now involved)
It now wants a “veto” on gas supplies to Europe. A so called “package” should be put on the table by Germany, which must include a “pipeline ‘shutdown mechanism'”. (To be used when wanted as blackmail by the US, of course)
The stated “object” is to guarantee supplies and transit fees to Ukraine. To avoid the US and Europe paying for the upkeep of the Oligarchs in such a corrupt state.
https://sputniknews.com/business/202102021081958235-us-reportedly-signals-readiness-to-lift-sanctions-against-nord-stream-2-if-certain-conditions-met/

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 2 2021 12:24 utc | 238

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 2 2021 12:24 utc | 239
Ukraine: if they are spending > $10 billion a month on Ukraine like somebody said here, then I can see why they might want to stanch the bleeding, but Russia will make sure the bleeding continues. The question is why do the “strategists” not see that? If you want to blackmail or extort somebody, you have to start with something they are afraid of. If you want to buy them, you have to offer something they want. Sending gas or not to Ukraine is neither. That is their worry, not Russias.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 2 2021 12:38 utc | 239

Bronze Age? Which time exactly. That’s the trick. If we speak about early civilizations, Egypt, Mesopotamia, that’s typical Bronze Age – there’s no way their tin came from British isles. If we are speaking about tin mines during Classical Greece and later eras, they used bronze a lot, but that’s already Iron Age. And when it comes to classical times, the 5/4th century BC Greeks knew well their tin came from Atlantic islands. I suppose a major shift appeared when Phoenicians ventured beyond the Pillars of Hercules.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Feb 2 2021 12:40 utc | 240

Bemildred | Feb 2 2021 12:38 utc | 240
Ukraine is a basket case but an obsession of Nuland. (cookie monster), who is coming back via the Bidenregime.
But this has to be seen in the light of Germany. The German industrials’ have been screwed by US Sanctions. Merkel will be leaving later, and an incoming new German Government might be prepared to add “good” PR (reduction of US sanctions) as part of their election campaign.
Of course the US will NOT reduce sanctions, I can’t think of any cases where they have for any length of time. The “second level” sanctions (threatening telephone calls to key players, “you will-might come under US sanctions if….”) cannot be undone by a Bidon signature.
So this is another of those “We ..umm US exceptionel, and nobody cleverer than us“, as often said by governmental hacks, as they take everyone else for idiots.

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 2 2021 13:04 utc | 241

On Myanmar, the two Global Times articles linked on page 1 are good sources.
“The NLD clinched an overwhelming victory, giving Aung San Suu Kyi a second five-year term in office. The NLD took 83 percent of the ballot in the election, while the army-backed Union Solidarity and Development Party (USDP) won 33 out of 476 parliament seats, much fewer than the party had expected.
Experts said the military’s actions can be seen as an adjustment to the country’s dysfunctional power structure. …”
Spot on.
“The prosperity brought about by political reforms alone was superficial and fragile. The predicament of Myanmar lies in that political reforms failed to provide any impetus to solve deep-seated problems, nor did they provide a safety valve to avoid repeated political wrangling. ”
Spot on.
Aung San Suu Kyi is an ongoing Orange Revolution saga. She would never have reached such glory even among Burmese, without a long nurturing of the narrative by UK/US over the many preceding years with the help of a large army of covert infiltrators in the ancien military government. She was supposed to be the “Yeltsin” for Myanmar (complete with obvious MI6 asset in Oxford don hubbie). It seemed she baulked at some of her masters’ more eggregious demands and became unpopular to the puppet masters, but nevertheless performed wonderfully for them in the covid saga. I don’t know whether the coup will aid Myanmar or damage it further – that depends what happens next – but something like this was frankly urgently required to save Myanmar. Hope it is not too late.
It is true there was huge fraud in the recent election, there is no doubt about that. There were widespread complaints at the time and also in the runup to the election, but not only from the army, also from ethnic groups who were deliberately sidelined by the NLD which is exclusively Burmese and very ethnonationalist. Many districts were denied an opportunity to hold elections allegedly because of fighting, but there were allegations that most of the areas excluded were areas where NLD was poised to lose control, while other areas with more fighting but where the NLD was not in power/poised to lose, elections went ahead. No doubt the NLD had expert technical support from the US and the UK in carrying out the election fraud.
The claims that NLD had an even bigger landslide than 2015 seem quite preposterous to me, just as preposterous as Biden’s alleged win, and this coup is no doubt influenced in part by events in the US. The burmese military did what Trump should have done but didn’t have the balls to do (or more likely lacked US military support for, as their military leaders are all revolving doors from the MIC). It is true that Aung San Suu Kyi is a cult figure amongst most burmese, and she can do no wrong in the eyes of many of them, but the same is not true for the whole of Myanmar. Non-burmese ethnic groups regard her as a threat because of her extreme ethno-burmese nationalism. In 2015 the non-burmese ethnic groups lost out big time because they formed too many small parties which divided the vote. This time they learnt the lesson from 2015 and were I think relatively united in opposition to the NLD, with much fewer parties, so the landslide in non-burmese areas should never have been on the cards. Even amongst ethnic burmese, although ASSK definitely still has majority support amongst burmese voters even amongst the burmese a significant minority seemed to be very disappointed in her.
Aung San Suu Kyi really badly screwed up Myanmar, and especially her catastrophic handling of Covid and allowing the economy to be destroyed according to the wishes of the global elites. Over the last 5 years she has also cemented a very strong Anglo-US foothold which will be hard to deal with and very dangerous in the future.
I don’t know how this coup will affect the future of Myanmar – it could be good or bad depending what the military does. But if the military can strip out the MASSIVE infiltration of CIA and MI5 from the Myanmar government and especially from the Myanmar intelligence services, police, and even the army itself, then Myanmar at least has a chance to improve on the catastrophic situation under the NLD. There is not a good outlook for democracy – there is no doubt about that. But sometimes unpopular actions are necessary to counteract dangerously destructive forces. That is not a positive outlook at all – there looms a lot of conflict ahead. I hope that conflict will not consume Myanmar as the yellowshirt/redshirt conflict consumed Thailand for so many years (and still ongoing). I fear there will be many lean years ahead for Myanmar, and wish them well, and I hope eventually they will pull through, with the help of Belt and Road. There could be a very bright future for Myanmar, but so many hazards on the way there!
The Chinese got it completely right in their analysis. The structural tensions are highly complex, highly deepseated, and go back 6 decades – and in major respects much more than that – especially British colonial divide and rule policies, and even before that the long history of competing kingdoms of different ethnic groups with dynamically changing territories and successes/failures. There is no easy solution to those tensions, and some parties will be aggrieved no matter what outcome. As China says, there needs to be dialogue and compromise on all sides – but alas that will be hard to find amoungst the NLD’s huge support base.
Under the NLD the economy has massively expanded, and most Burmese were very happy with that fact – but in my opinion it was all a massive bubble based on massive foreign debt. That was the deliberate strategy of the Anglo-US elites – to burn out Myanmar by pouring fuel on the fire of consumerist greed, amplified by the effects of decades of sanctions. I hope the new military government will consider investigating that foreign debt with a view to writing off and deeming illegal portions of the foreign debt that was improperly given. Most of that debt was effectively colour-revolution handouts from the west to inflate the economy and make it irrevocably dependent on western finance – but catastrophically unsustainably for Myanmar (even before Covid, how much more so now after the NLD has gutted the economy at the behest of the western elites). Banks must be held accountable for the bad loans that were granted under the NLD regime. Any loans that were competently and properly given should be respected and legitimised, but those which were given to people who obviously never had any realistic chance of repayment should be very carefully examined and annulled if improperly made. I think many people were getting into debt problems even before covid, but now huge swathes of non-agricultural work will have been affected by the covid mismanagement. The military will have tough decisions to make with the domestic bank side of the foreign debt though, since some (most/all?) of those domestic banks have close links to the military.
The debt-bubble factor has been hugely amplified by the gutting of the economy by the covid disaster – apart from agriculture, I would guess most of the productive economy (especially many large manufacturing investment projects from other parts of Asia) will have taken a dangerously critical blow from the covid mismanagement, and it is precisely these sectors which would be needed to counterbalance the consumer debt balloons (the Maidan cookies).
The huge CIA/MI6 infiltration dates from way back, it is not just recent, but once NLD came to power I think that exploded. The long term future of Myanmar under the NLD in my opinion was pretty bad even before covid, because the society was getting screwed up by unbalanced westernisation and a raging fire of consumerism (deliberate part of the colour revolution), and the economy (and even society at the cultural level) was getting dangerously dependent on the US. That was a bubble that had to burst eventually; covid made it burst early – maybe that may eventually turn out to be just as well, or maybe the the covid crash may be too much to recover from, I don’t know. I hope the Chinese and Russians will very quietly give the military wise guidance and support on how to extricate itself from the horrible mess the NLD has caused. Fortunately the US is in a state of freefall chaos, and the UK is caught in Brexit chaos, so cross fingers for Myanmar.

Posted by: BM | Feb 2 2021 13:13 utc | 242

VK
Because Marx believed that the existence of monopoly would provoke its antithesis, completion, or rather that innovation and competition from new players would emerge. Capitalists are well aware of this so they are stopping innovation and competition. It is happening before your very eyes and you can’t believe it, in fact, you are supporting it.
Marx, if he were alive today, would not be relying on what he wrote over 100 years ago. Capitalists can read, learn and adapt and they have!

Posted by: ADKC | Feb 2 2021 13:32 utc | 243

@ Posted by: ADKC | Feb 2 2021 13:32 utc | 244
No. Marx clearly stated there were cycles of concentration and centralization in capitalism, and that both movements were natural to the system. Monopoly or excess of competition are not a problem in Marx’s theory – this is a debate that only exists in bourgeois economics (unless you take marginal, late phenomenons of alleged Marxists such as Baran and Sweezy seriously). The reason being Marx’s theory is the Value Theory, in which profit rates come from surplus value, not the Keynesian “animal spirits of the entrepreneur”.
As long as the working class keeps being successfully exploited, capitalism will continue to exist – with or without “competition”. And the facts on the field corroborate with him: modern large conglomerates – your “monopolies” – can and do successfully simulate competition within themselves, through annual goals of each department: the department that lags behind is extinct, while the department that overperforms is expanded.
Capitalism’s true endgame according to Marx’s theory is the Tendency of the Profit Rate to Fall (which only appears in Book III). If Capital was a formal Ph.D. thesis, the Tendency of the Profit Rate to Fall would be its formal conclusion, its “eureka!” moment.
Falling profit rates don’t depend on the degree of monopolization or competition (there’s no such thing in Marx’s theory), but on the Organic Composition of Capital (OCC for abbreviation). OCC can rise or fall independent of the hypothesized degree of monopolization of a capitalist society.
Competition only plays a role in Marx’s theory as an auxiliary to all of this, when he talks about the cycles of innovation. When the profit rate allows, some individual capitalists will invest in new technologies in order to outcompete his adversaries. If he’s successful, the old competition will either fail or catch up, creating a new floor over which the entire capitalist system will have to built upon. But this only happens as long as this new technology is more profitable as the old one, not less (if it is less profitable, it is the innovative business that will go bankrupt, not the old ones).

Posted by: vk | Feb 2 2021 14:00 utc | 244

BM | Feb 2 2021 13:13 utc | 243
Thanks for that excellent and comprehensive post.

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 2 2021 14:07 utc | 245

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 2 2021 13:04 utc | 242
Yes, “Victoria Nuland” (something like “Chrystia Freeland”?) is an obsessive moron and will screw up whatever she touches, just like her husband. And Germany, I agree with your take. Merkel does not impress me and never has. An obedient tool. They have eyes on Ukraine, they do.
@BM: thanks for the writeup of your thoughts on Myanmar.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 2 2021 14:11 utc | 246

France presses Germany to ditch Nord Stream 2 over Navalny
https://www.dw.com/en/france-presses-germany-to-ditch-nord-stream-2-over-navalny/a-56411291

Posted by: Passer by | Feb 2 2021 14:36 utc | 247

Self-proclaimed SE Asia specialist Tony Cartalucci/Brian Berletic finally publishes his take on the Myanmar situation:
Myanmar Crisis Explained…
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Just to confirm the good news (which we already knew were true):
Lancet publishes Sputnik V Phase III clinical trial data, showing Russian Covid-19 vaccine is 91%+ effective

Posted by: vk | Feb 2 2021 14:53 utc | 248

In commenting on the excellent Larry Romanoff link in the Saker American Dystopia – The Propaganda Mask and the Utopia Syndrome posted by Posted by: Grieved | Feb 2 2021 3:18 utc | 211 [note the time-stamps folks not the comment number, which are changing fast just now], for once I have to agree with Debsisdead:
Posted by: Debsisdead | Feb 2 2021 7:36 utc | 223 : In saying that I will concede that amerika’s wrap around 24/7/365 indoctrination is less challenged in amerika than it is any any other country , but quite a number of other nation states are close behind amerika, particularly england whose media over the last decade have become unanimous in their support of deceitful propaganda.
This is a major problem around the world. Indeed, related to my comment on Myanmar above, the mass insanity problem described by Romanoff is precisely one of the core problems facing Myanmar today. This false utopia described by Romanoff is a disease that is more infectious and more deadly than covid-19. It kills millions worldwide through the induced dystopia that blinds whole populations to reality, and blocks understanding of the evil mischief the US-UK engage nonstop in.
Myanmar must be the only country in the world where every single filmstar and every single actor/-ess (they are one and the same in Myanmar) is US American. This is certainly a deliberate policy achievement engineered by the US state department, and every one of those stars must be financed and trained by US proxies. The result is as predictable as it is depressing. The Myanmar population is brainwashed by the resulting US media onslaught in an exactly analogous manner to that which Romanoff so eloquently describes.
On countless different issues, during the NLD regime period – so I am told – the population were regularly warned by military-owned TV news broadcasts about many diverse issues that MoA barflies are acutely aware of, but in each case the burmese citizens completely dismiss the warnings as false solely because they were stated by the military. It is a circular delusion. When Romanoff states that the US false utopia is foisted on unwilling nations this is only partially true – in most cases the receiving population, blinded by the propaganda, is unwilling and unable to see its blatent falsity and grasps at that false utopia fervently.

Posted by: BM | Feb 2 2021 15:16 utc | 249

Just to confirm the good news (which we already knew were true):
Lancet publishes Sputnik V Phase III clinical trial data, showing Russian Covid-19 vaccine is 91%+ effective
Posted by: vk | Feb 2 2021 14:53 utc | 249

I’ve only read the Lancet paper partially so far, but as I understand it, that 91% figure relates only to the first dose and to the 21 days after the first dose before the second dose is administered. The summary of the paper is rather badly worded in this respect. That is, 9% of those given the first dose had a positive PCR test result on the day they went for the second dose. I assume the final effectiveness figure is likely to be much higher, based on the two doses. Obviously, if you are not particularly exposed to the virus within that 21 day inter-dose period, then that incidence rate will be very low or nil for that interdose period. As I say I have not yet read the whole paper so I may be mistaken.

Posted by: BM | Feb 2 2021 15:47 utc | 250

BBC officially says Sputnik V is safe and effective and easy to distribute. And the Lancet has published the stage three trial results:
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55900622

Posted by: Prof K | Feb 2 2021 15:52 utc | 251

“(…) competition (there’s no such thing in Marx’s theory) (…)”
Yes, exactly. The starting point of Marx` analysis is what in “bourgeois economics” is refered to as perfect market. Such instances like the Game Stop Corp case where individual capitalist impede the free movement of capital aren`t supposed to happen in capitalism.
@247 Bemildred
Nobody has ever been impressed by Merkel during her whole political career. That`s how she regularly became the compromise candidate for competing factions. Once in position she kept on playing dull, waiting for the right moment to backstab her former supporters.

Posted by: m | Feb 2 2021 16:16 utc | 252

A left-wing Jewish group is taking legal action against the Labour Party
You see, it’s not enough to be a Jew. You have to be the right, the correct kind of Jew. If you’re a socialist Jew, you’re not really a Jew. In fact, you’re antisemitic. You know, because the Jews said it – the right kind of Jews, that is.
And people (i.e. the far-right) still think this has nothing to do with class struggle and everything to do with a Jewish conspiracy…

Posted by: vk | Feb 2 2021 16:34 utc | 253

vk | Feb 2 2021 16:34 utc | 254
The problem is that Starmer is an idiot and has the charisma of the back end of a london bus. He was also put in to destroy those measures that Corbyn proposed which would have helped “the workers”, or those measures that would have crimped the Bankers style.
At this rate Labour has lost any future election without even trying. Object achieved.

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 2 2021 17:13 utc | 254

A development from my previous post about Blinken and Ukraine:
US Reportedly Signals Readiness to Lift Sanctions Against Nord Stream 2 if Certain Conditions Met

According to Handelsblatt, Washington’s demands include preventing Europe from becoming overly dependent on Russian gas, and stopping Ukraine from being decoupled from European gas infrastructure. The newspaper says the US is interested in a pipeline “shutdown mechanism” in the event that Russia reduces gas deliveries through Ukraine, thus depriving Kiev of billions of dollars in much-needed transit fees for its cash-strapped economy.

As I mentioned before, the Ukraine turned out to be a black hole to the coffers of the American Empire, with its extraofficial bank IMF bleeding some USD 10-16 billion monthly, just to keep the neonazi state afloat.
My hypothesis is the USA’s objective at this point is not to stop the NS-2 entirely, but to create a situation where Ukraine will continue to milk from the Russian taxpayer money through the maintenance of the old transport fees. This would in turn create an extra revenue (i.e. extra-American source of revenue) to the failed state of Ukraine.
Besides, this early obsession with Ukraine my force us to reconsider what the hell actually happened in 2014, in relation to the Biden family participation in the coup. It seems there was more corruption and more intimacy between the Bidens and the Neonazis than meets the eye.
There is also another very revealing information in the article:

During its tenure, the Trump administration sought to pressure European nations into buying US liquefied natural gas, which requires pressurisation and depressurisation terminals, and transport aboard tankers across the Atlantic Ocean. In 2018, OMV, the Austrian energy concern involved in Nord Stream 2, estimated that Russian pipeline gas to Europe is up to 50 percent cheaper than American LNG. Gerhard Schroeder, the former German chancellor who now serves as chairman of the board at Nord Stream AG, recently said that in addition to being more expensive, US LNG is less environmentally friendly and of poorer quality because it is derived by fracking.

The German Green Party was one of the parties that are against the completion of the NS-2. Their argument, though, is unique: they claim the pipeline will kill a rare species of fish (or mollusk, don’t remember exactly which) unique to the Baltic Sea. Well, someone should warn the Greens they’re lobbying for fracking.

Posted by: vk | Feb 2 2021 17:33 utc | 255

@ bm… thanks for your comments on myanmar…
@ adkc… thanks for your comments on marx and etc.. i relate to what you are saying…
@ bemildrid… nuland and freeland do share a lot in common…. unfortunately for us!

Posted by: james | Feb 2 2021 18:08 utc | 256

Posted by: james | Feb 2 2021 18:08 utc | 257
Well, I apologize for us. My father was born in Glasgow in 1892 and fought in the Canadian Expeditionary Force in WWI. He fought at Vimy Ridge and almost lost a leg. So he was a Canadian War Vet. and got a small pension and a free pair of shoes every three years the rest of his life. I have a lot of relatives in Canada, most of whom I don’t know. The ones I knew are mostly gone now. But I was very well acquainted with Victoria in the 70s & 80s from visiting my Dad. Did some serious carousing there with my Brother. So I like Canadians, and I saw it before they Neoconned it.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 2 2021 18:21 utc | 257

Just watched the lawyers and the wife of Navalny leaving the court, a lot of journalists, Yulia Navalnaya did not comment, the lawyers will appeal, they have ten days, and to put their statements briefly, “we will get help from abroad” a frequently used quote in Russian from Ilf and Petrov book “The Twelve Chairs”. That will please the liberals, the eagle that looks west, but will only reinforce the perception of the whole team being foreign agents. No reason to rejoice about anybody loosing his freedom, but the consequences of Navalny’s actions are plain to see, back to the roaring 90’s.
Besides, what a contrast with Assange day in court, nobody was allowed except one ex-diplomat, Craig Murray, and here they had almost the whole western diplomatic corps. Journalist keep on waiting, I wonder who they are waiting for. Nexta channel, based in Poland and curators of the Belarus protests are calling followers to Manezhnaya Square, next to the Kremlin, since Red Square is closed.
They were waiting for the prosecutor, she is now explaining the legal aspects of a conditional being repeatedly violated. The much touted argument of the defense concerning the European Court of Human Rights, the prosecutor affirms that some article did not conform with the ECHR but the sentence in itself was recognized as lawful.

Posted by: Paco | Feb 2 2021 18:38 utc | 258

Paco @259–
Thanks for your timely reporting. Looks like he’ll stew in prison for a few years. Or, perhaps a prisoner exchange: Assange for Navalny?

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 2 2021 19:07 utc | 259

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 2 2021 19:07 utc | 260
It won’t be that serious, three and a half years minus one that was already served under house arrest, plus the appeal might bring it down a notch.
Assange will keep on being tortured, it is truly amazing that not even the Australian diplomatic personnel was allowed, the disparity in treatment is so obvious, of course the presstitutes will continue with their infamous propaganda, but it seems the “civilized” world is not able to look at itself in the mirror.

Posted by: Paco | Feb 2 2021 19:25 utc | 260

Putin held a meeting, “Meeting on the situation in the banking sector,” which provides an overview enabling a comparison with the performance of other nation’s systems.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 2 2021 19:27 utc | 261

@ Bemildred | Feb 2 2021 18:21 utc | 258.. fascinating! you must be getting on in age to have a father that was born in 1892… maybe you meant grandfather?? we share similar roots… my dads family way into the past came to canada in 1796 as part of the highland clearances… i think there are lot of people here in canada unhappy with freeland, but the majority of them are unaware of her background or anything about her..
Tuyzentfloot | Feb 2 2021 8:45 utc | 225.. yes – i think it is obvious who is yanking whose chain in the navalny saga…. it is fairly plain to see as far as i see it… western intel agencies are pulling navalnys strings…. he needs to be gone… his roll as trojan horse is a dead giveaway… that interview is more of the same..

Posted by: james | Feb 2 2021 19:57 utc | 262

Posted by: james | Feb 2 2021 19:57 utc | 263
Well I usually don’t bring it up. But, I’m 75, my father lived to be (almost) 92. He married my mother, a widow with 3 boys at the age of 52, and I was born (in Los Angeles) when he was 53. I had two younger brothers. They are both gone now. I have one half-brother left, he’s 80 right around now. I was born a few weeks before Hiroshima.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 2 2021 20:08 utc | 263

vk | Feb 2 2021 17:33 utc | 256
Last week and again this morning I read very extensive analysis of Russian gas via Gazprom to Europe as prepared in documents from Oxford Institute for Energy Studies. Both documents I’ve read seem objective and balanced and treat the true political wrangling honestly and openly. I got the impression from what they wrote that all of the various arms of what constitutes EU commerce and policy want continued use of Ukraine pipelines so as to prop up Ukraine financially – that the EU/EC also tires of subsidizing Ukraine.
And though I had read previously about the decades long fighting between Russia and Ukraine wrt transit royalties, supply/consumption allowances, and non-payment of fees, I didn’t realize until now that the “crisis” that prompted Gazprom to propose alternative transmission pipelines WAS NOT the 2014 coup, but a retaliatory action by Ukraine gas authorities that caused a European gas shortage in the winter of 2009(?) – that is, not a failure by Gazprom to honor its contracts or cut off supply at their end.
One proposed solution to the Ukraine problem wrt to Russian gas is to make the transfer point from Gazprom the Russian/Ukraine border thus making the transit and contracting of purchases (by downstream European interests) of that gas a matter for Ukraine entities as transit(ory) owners of that gas. The Oxford studies brought out the EC desire for stability of this commodity, both in price and supply, and uniformity of regulation. The Oxford studies also note however the political drift of EU/EC policy decisions rather than commercial or regulatory necessity.
wrt US LNG derived from shalegas fracking: I don’t know from “poorer quality” of this gas, but it is counter to all logic in an age when it is necessary to reduce GHGs to supply European needs through this endeavor. I’ve made the same points repeatedly as those you quoted above wrt expense and environmental irresponsibility. A further point that I’d argue is that the US shalegas supply may be more of a mirage than we’ve been told to believe. IOW it makes no sense to export what we could use here to help meet US carbon targets if Biden is really serious (who the f#$k knows? – I doubt he will discomfit wealthy interests too very very much.) Just the process alone of liquifying that gas for ocean transport increases US GHG emissions rather than reduces them.
Thinking about it further: Continuing to try to expand the US LNG export market, as has every administration since Bush/Chaney, will be a litmus test for the seriousness of Biden’s commitment to climate action. Continuing in the same vein will prove that promise to be fraudulent. My solution, and one the US would not embrace unless hell froze over, would be to nationalize the US oil and gas industries. The State of Pennsylvania is constitutionalized as a “Commonwealth” yet that commonwealth – to this day – does not levy an excise tax on the gas that is fracked within its boundaries.

Posted by: vinnieoh | Feb 2 2021 20:49 utc | 264

@ bemildrid… thanks… i was trying to do the math… my grandparents are born around the same time – late 1800’s… i am in my mid 60’s… are you in the usa or scotland at present?? i think you are in the usa, but now i am not as sure!

Posted by: james | Feb 2 2021 20:56 utc | 265

Posted by: vinnieoh | Feb 2 2021 20:49 utc | 265
You brake it you own it. That’s the whole Ukrainian conundrum, we place NATO bases in Ukraine and Russia has to subsidize them, a country that forbids Russian culture and kills Russians in Ukraine. It is just the same as asking NATO European members to spend more, pay more for the occupation. It is really so blatant that it says a lot about mythical US ingenuity. Same thing for the Baltics. But why pay transit fees when you have a direct pipeline to the main costumer in Europe. It reminds me of Trump saying that Mexico would pay for the wall, that was plain english and not all sweet talk about democracy. That is the reason they got rid of Trump, the guy could not hide the innards of the beast.

Posted by: Paco | Feb 2 2021 21:10 utc | 266

Posted by: james | Feb 2 2021 20:56 utc | 266
I live in USA, always have, not leaving. I’ve never been to Scotland. My father never went back that I know of. My younger brother went and met some of the relatives. My father was a citizen of the UK, then naturalized here. Lived in LA mostly after that, would have been the 20s & 30s, never married until my mother. My mother was 20 years younger, 33 when I was born. Yes my father could have been my grandfather, but he wasn’t. I remember his relatives, tough people, no nonsense. Anyway, it just keeps getting messier, which is why I don’t bring it up.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 2 2021 21:18 utc | 267

Denk,
Missing from your list is Kevin Rudd.

Posted by: lysias | Feb 2 2021 21:22 utc | 268

Paco | Feb 2 2021 21:10 utc | 267
US interests in European energy policy is of course transparent, but the EU/EC interests are more nuanced and pragmatic. There is no doubt that the portions of European energy infrastructure that reliy on natgas also relies on Russia as the main supplier, and Europe is diverse and geographically separated. Ukraine has become a futball (or would that be a rugby ball?) that passes from the interests of northern and western Europe vs eastern and southern Europe, and between residential/commercial consumption vs industrial consumption. European industrial interests all favor NSII in abeyance to EU political posturing to the US. Another piece of the pipeline/supply resilience puzzle are the pipelines (carrying Russian gas) transiting Poland and Belarus.
The Oxford studies informed me that no one entity is holding all the high cards, and least of all the shit-kicker in the cowboy hat.

Posted by: vinnieoh | Feb 2 2021 21:38 utc | 269

Yet further evidence that elected officials of the Outlaw US Empire’s government have completely swallowed its propaganda. House Republicans on the Committee on Homeland Security wrote:
“‘We remain extraordinarily concerned about the CCP’s blatant efforts to weaponize their private sector for intelligence and military purposes, exploit the data of American people and businesses, and manipulate the global markets for critical and emerging technologies, all while being less than forthcoming on the international stage,’ reads the letter to National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan, obtained by Fox News.
“‘It is imperative that we prevent an authoritarian, communist regime that is actively engaged in genocide and does not share America’s interests from infiltrating and exploiting our nation’s communications and technology backbone,’ the letter continues.”
Complete projection and inanity to the max! China’s so far ahead of the Outlaw US Empire on com and tech, such representatives ought to be holding hearings on why they fell so far behind since China didn’t need to “steal” anything. It appears that a dumbed-down electorate has the dumbed-down government it deserves.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 2 2021 22:29 utc | 270

Gamestop/WallStreetBets/Robinhood short-selling/squeezing kerfuffle explained the way I can understand it:
https://youtu.be/C6XEtQrgQUA (10.5 min)

Posted by: gm | Feb 2 2021 23:20 utc | 271

@dan of Steele 228-2 Feb9.57 and John 232-2 Feb11.05
The following post shows the early results from Sweden’s decision not to quarantine the healthy last year. A growing proportion of the population has acquired the necessary antibodies https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/01/25/heres-a-graph-they-dont-want-you-to-see/

Posted by: cirsium | Feb 2 2021 23:31 utc | 272

WH Press Secretary Jen Psaki ‘circling back on them’…
Change in Whitehouse Press corps daily demeanor now that Biden’s Caregivers are back in charge:
https://youtu.be/E1nrQaoZyaw (12 min)

Posted by: gm | Feb 3 2021 0:23 utc | 273

Regarding the Larry Romanoff article I linked and the subsequent comments by debsisdead and BM – point taken about this mechanism applying to other countries as well. Thanks for that.
Apparently then this is part of how the propaganda illusion works – you just tell the idealized story all the time, and suppress the news of anything counter to that, and ordinary people (who treat ideals as something to aspire to and to believe in) don’t see the disconnect. Part of it is their lack of factual knowledge, and part of it is their own innate desire not to see bad things about themselves.
Whoever put that together was wickedly brilliant.
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I reflected on the article after I posted it, and had a more clear picture of what Trump brought to the culture. It was commonly observed from the beginning that he was hated because he reflected the true American.
It becomes more clear now how dangerous and existentially panic-inducing that mirroring of the true, crass American was to many people who were completely divorced from the notion. They saw the portrayal as something incomprehensibly alien, and not as something they also owned a piece of.
Trump broke the spell, for those who cared to see it.

Posted by: Grieved | Feb 3 2021 0:37 utc | 274

VK
Well, when Marxists talk about “centralization (i.e. monopoly) prevails when capitalism is in crisis, while concentration (i.e. competition) prevails when capitalism is booming” and deny that there is a different between the two, deny that one is an opposite of the other because both are capitalism, it really is just an issue of semantics. From within a system processes can be defined as opposites, from without they can be defined as the being the same thing. Unless competition is “fake” then competition is different (the opposite) to monopoly. Obviously, competitors can become monopolists but that is the end of competition; competitions tendency to lead to monopoly is part of the same process but this doesn’t mean that monopoly and competition are the same.
When Marx was talking about a process of accumulation (a bigger share of the same pie) that continually ratchets up leading to a collapse he envisaged this happening under centralisation (monopoly):
“The monopoly of capital becomes a fetter upon the mode of production, which has sprung up and flourished along with, and under it. Centralisation of the means of production and socialisation of labour at last reach a point where they become incompatible with their capitalist integument. This integument is burst asunder. The knell of capitalist private property sounds. The expropriators are expropriated.”
This is, I presume, your endgame but it seems to me that this is just wishful thinking depending on leaps of faith; the capitalist integument will not automatically “burst asunder”.
As you say, Marx posited OCC, or the declining rate of profit, as the reason for crises in capitalism, but now nearly everyone understands declining rate of profit and nearly everyone can see the limitations of the profit motive as the sole explanation for monopolist, elite capitalist behaviour. After all, what meaning does “profit” have when you own everything?
Marx (and Marxists) are wedded to the idea that the motivation of Capitalism is solely for profit and to produce more and fail to appreciate that profit is only one part. Another more important part is the need to create the conditions that produce a profit. This means that Capitalists have always been interested and involved in society and control of humanity, not just passive producers of goods to meet the real needs of humanity. More important than profit is ownership (a legal construct which is merely related to a particular system at a particular moment) and more important that ownership is control (the reality of power which persists as long as you have power).
It should be clear to everyone that Capitalism has looked for a way to transcend the limitations of declining profit, crisis and collapse and that is to transform itself into “neo-feudalism”. That is what the “Great Reset” and the pandemic(s) is all about.

Posted by: ADKC | Feb 3 2021 0:47 utc | 275

BM 250: “Myanmar must be the only country in the world where every single filmstar and every single actor/-ess (they are one and the same in Myanmar) is US American”
What the heck are you talking about? They’ve got plenty of local stars, and when they don’t deal with that, they’re watching Korean or Thai soaps. The whole culture is so massively different from the American one that it would take a century of complete US media control and brainwashing to change that in depth, and the US media presence is way lower than in any Western country, or even Russia. Did you ever set foot in SE or S Asia?
As for the elections, the results were nearly the same as those from 2015, and those ones were controlled by the pro-military party at the time, so there definitely wasn’t any chance of pro-NLD fraud at the time. Turns out that the military was stupidly over-confident back then and didn’t realize there’s just no way ever they’ll have a majority in a democratic election, considering their previous rule for the last decades.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Feb 3 2021 0:59 utc | 276

@224 Jen
Thanks for that note about Gibraltar. I went looking for a link to add to the file, and, very odd, the search turns up in first place the Fact Check people, followed by several gov sources, to the effect of “debunking” the myth of 53 deaths.
You have to go to the original news stories from Gibraltar and the comments in a YouTube news video to find natives attesting that broadcasters say they were “forbidden” to discuss this, and that the deaths only started to skyrocket after the vaccination started.
Gibraltar’s a small place, 34,000 population. Easy to notice when the deaths ramped up. But let’s let FullFact give us the timeline, in an article deliriously titled, 53 people have not died in Gibraltar because of the Covid-19 vaccine:

“Gibraltar started vaccinating on 10 January, and on that day reported that there had been a total of 16 Covid-19 deaths since the start of the pandemic.
Ten days later, the territory recorded a total of 53 Covid-19 deaths to date, which seems to be the source for the claim.
As of 28 January, there have been 70 Covid-19 deaths.
Putting aside the fact that 12 of these deaths had occurred by 9 January before vaccinations started, there is no evidence connecting any of these Covid-19 deaths to the vaccine.”

Got it. Cool.
Small island, only 12 deaths so far, in one year. Pfizer vaccination starts, almost one-third of the population has the jab so far, and deaths jump to 70 in about 19 days.
Nothing statistically significant about that, is there?

Posted by: Grieved | Feb 3 2021 1:03 utc | 277

Grieved @275–
That same sort of hate/anger complex is quite visible in the rhetoric employed by the GOP Congresscritters cited @271. And it’s going to escalate as fast as the Outlaw US Empire declines, IMO.
On a different yet related topic, have you noted the current series of Chinese moon explorers are named Chang’e followed by a numeral? IMO, the ‘ is inserted to fool Westerners, for Change is precisely what China’s moon program is all about–Change on Earth via Helium-3 Fusion energy generation. And Russia’s onboard as will the entire Eurasian Bloc then outbound via BRI. Give these two articles some time to see what I see, I’d read this second and I’d read this first taking note of the copyright at its end. Do keep in mind that both Russia and China have mastered the nuclear fuel cycle while the Empire has surrendered and is in no ways prepared for the coming shortage of cheap oil.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 3 2021 1:15 utc | 278

Pathetic:
Leak reveals Labour plan to focus on flag and patriotism to win back voters
Thus ends Europe’s greatest social-democrat political party.
And to think they destroyed Corbyn for this. The British center-left could’ve have an Aurelian, but instead chose a Priscus Attalus.

Posted by: vk | Feb 3 2021 1:32 utc | 279

More common sense(?) Americana opinion on current state of affairs in US (from a guy who knows how to fix cars):
“Here’s Why Joe Biden’s Plan to Save America is a Load of Crap”
[US situation is even driving car mechanics up the wall]
https://youtu.be/zt69h4E0kpY (10 min)

Posted by: gm | Feb 3 2021 1:36 utc | 280

Alexey Navalny asks for immediate release, citing ECHR ruling on Yves Rocher case
I don’t know which is worse: that the ECHR judged and acquitted a grafter (!!) or that Navalny had the audacity to invoke an ECHR verdict in the court of a sovereign nation.
Sometimes I wonder if those liberal drones outside the First World receive some kind of strong drug that makes them dumber or something like that.

Posted by: vk | Feb 3 2021 1:51 utc | 281

@279 karlof1
Where did I see the news story on the Russia-China cooperation on a moon station? Were we discussing it here? It was somewhere in the last few days…bothers me that I can’t remember that piece of news.
The 1990 piece you linked estimated we’d need fusion by 2050, to do that we’d need to start NOW, and do this, and do that, etc. But all we needed was China, and here she comes. In 1990 they thought it would be the US to do it, and by 2014 they knew that only China could.
I am so looking forward to China/Russia producing clean nuclear power and perhaps even being able to clean up some of the waste product littering the planet currently. The US will continue to fall, but hopefully in a couple or three decades, if the nation still exists, it can buy services from China to help start on the long road to rebuild a viable infrastructure.
~~
And what a dazzling, pure diamond vision of China to see that helium on the moon, and to know how doable it actually would be to bring a few shuttles of it back to Earth each year, and keep the lights on everywhere. If a nation had the resolve and the long planning, as the west once had – and the investment in human capital.
What a lesson from China in how to win against all the competition for resources by making resources so plentiful as to be not worth competing for.
What a delight to see wisdom thinking in play, such brilliant strategies such as these. And China goes from being resource dependent to being the prime global supplier. What a future is coming.
What excites me the most is the manned expedition to the moon, if it happens. This is where we see China tackle the radiation belt and insulate against it to get humans and electronics through unscathed. The science of that will be the final illustration that such measures were not taken in the US moon program, and that thus the astronauts never passed through that confining belt.
~~
I don’t know about your name theory. I’m sure the Chinese are aware of ironies there in similarity to the English word, but I love the fact that their extremity of muscularity, firing big rockets to hurl projectiles to the moon, is elegantly viewed, and dedicated to the Moon Goddess. This is so Chinese, and such a welcome change from the machismo of the dying west.
~~
Meanwhile, on the ground in China, the future arrives with the first driverless taxi service. 10 minutes of good cheer in this video:
AutoX Opens Its Fully Driverless RoboTaxi Service to the Public in China (English)

Posted by: Grieved | Feb 3 2021 4:01 utc | 282

lysias 269
Yes you’r right.
Kevin Rudd like all Oz PM are hardly anti gringo, all took their order from Washington.
BUt uncle sham is a very possessive slave master.
The moment Rudd started flirting with Beijing, his fate is sealed, like Whitnam,.
Same for Aung san.
Notice that CIA’S mighty wurlitzer has been demonising Aung for years, holding her responsible for the so-called ‘Rohingya genocide’, sounds familiar ? [‘UIghur genocide’]
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/05/rohingya-aung-san-suu-kyi-nobel-peace-prize-rohingya-myanmar
A ‘crime’ previously foisted fully on the generals shoulders.
Why is fukus former poster girl for democracy kicked from her altar to become a pariah in Washington/London, so much so that there’s an organised campaign to strip her of that NObel prize previously conferred by her mentors. ?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/02/01/aung-san-suu-kyi/
Cue China !
LIke Rudd, Whitnam, Hatoyama etc etc….
Cuz she committed a cardinal sin in fukus book, a Panda hugger !
While Washington offered weapons, war games, ultimately a military base complete with sofa, Aung knew that for economic development China is THE answer,.
https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/aung-san-suu-kyi-says-china-ties-deserve-close-attention/article7892335.ece
But she had forgotten that uncle sham treats all his ‘allies’ like concubines….
‘All your body are belong to me’
A crime punishable by death, just ask king Birendra….or Lumumba !

Posted by: denk | Feb 3 2021 4:08 utc | 283

Wall Street on Parade has another posting up about GameStop with link below and quote of ending words.
Citadel Didn’t Just Bail Out a GameStop Short Seller; Citadel Also Had a Big Short Position in GameStop
The take away quote

In addition to ferreting out whether there was any coordinated actions among the big players in GameStock (both long and short) the House Financial Services Committee needs to find out how such a high percentage of GameStop’s shares were in the hands of sophisticated investors and yet 140 percent of its outstanding shares were reportedly shorted. Exactly which Wall Street firms or Prime Brokers were loaning GameStop shares to be shorted, in excess of the total shares in existence.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 3 2021 4:22 utc | 284

https://japantoday.com/category/politics/japan-defence-official-warns-myanmar-coup-could-increase-china's-influence-in-region
“Japan, a major aid donor with longstanding close ties to Myanmar, responded by calling for the release of Suu Kyi and members of her civilian government, and the restoration of democracy.
Nakayama said any move to suspend Japan’s partnership program with Myanmar’s military could result in China winning more influence, potentially undermining security in the region.
“If we stop, the Myanmar military’s relationship with China’s army will get stronger, and they will further grow distant from free nations including United States, Japan and the United Kingdom,” Nakayama said. “I think that would pose a risk to the security of the region.””
It seems only Japan remains the smartest among the “democracies”. China wins as long as it remains neutral to the old or new regime in Myanmar, by sanctioning and intervening, the “democracies” only solidifies the rule of the military and with it, the relationship between Myanmar and China because they simply have no choice.
Even more self-own by busybodies.

Posted by: Smith | Feb 3 2021 4:31 utc | 285

denk 284
Or Najib….
‘Even though the Malaysian police force has cooperated closely with the US Embassy in the war on terror, which led to arrests of top-ranking Al Qaeda-linked terrorists, that is not good enough. The late Moammar Gaddhafi of Libya and Syrian President Bashar al-Assad also aided Washington in post-911 anti-terrorism, and look where it got them. It is not enough to be a friend of America. For a leader to survive, he must be a groveling yes-man, a political slave – and never mind America’s long-forgotten principles of sovereignty or self-determination.’
https://rense.com/general96/mh370.html

Posted by: denk | Feb 3 2021 4:47 utc | 286

From a Nepalese in the belly of the beast..
‘I will all ways love Nepal and have many fond memories of my youth there and I am ashamed of what is obviously my own country’s hand in this murderous affair in the land of Lord Buddha. American foreign policy has ruined Nepal. The thought of B 52s based in the land of temples makes me shudder.
This is how we create Osamas; this is how we create terrorism; this is how we create hatred for America. Say what you must against Birendra, the Nepali people loved their King and Queen and when they come to know the truth they will hate us for our part in this tragedy,
Jai Nepal! Free Nepal!’
https://www.counterpunch.org/2005/03/05/murder-at-the-palace/
PS
Re king Gyanendra
there’s another theory which says that the slain king Birendra’s own son was the patsy
who was himself killed to silence him off.
Anyway Gyanendra was later deposed by the
Indian supported Maoists in 2018 [?], ending
Nepal’s thousand years Monarchy rule.
which was of course celebrated in the west
as a ‘triumph for democracy’.
India of course is given a free hand , often
a helping hand from fukus, to do whatever shit
in South Asia.
They dont call India ‘USA OF south asia’ for
nuthin you know !
One thing is sure tho.
CIA./MI6/RAW were partners in crimes in this
tragedy.
signing off…

Posted by: denk | Feb 3 2021 5:09 utc | 287

Thank you, Bemildred @ 162!

Posted by: juliania | Feb 3 2021 5:28 utc | 288

Also thanks, james @ 164. I couldn’t access the article but got this far:
“The discipline is beginning to look like a science designed to solve problems that no longer exist.”

Posted by: juliania | Feb 3 2021 5:38 utc | 289

Thank you, Bemildred @201, that is very worrisome.

Posted by: juliania | Feb 3 2021 5:49 utc | 290

Grieved @283–
Just posted this comment at Escobar’s FB. Yeah, it’s like its 1968 again and you just watched 2001:
IMO, China already has the Outlaw US Empire by its tech-balls as its space and fusion energy program plus its quantum computing programs illustrate very well. China’s educational system allows the greatest number of young minds to blossom than ever before in human history. The potential is beyond Surrealistic. Russia puts forward the same educational effort and together the two have closed the nuclear fuel cycle atop of massive stores of hydrocarbons. The Eurasian Bloc anchored by these two superstars will become THE team to beat–Or Join, since it’s easy to sign up as one needn’t be chosen. But success breeds envy from those who failed, particularly if it was through hubris or ineptness, and seeking revenge for self-induced failure is the stuff of Classic Tragedy. The Davos Bluff was called; now what comes next?

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 3 2021 6:10 utc | 291

Below is a Xinhuanet posting the shows the Covid source tracing hardball being played

BEIJING, Feb. 2 (Xinhua) — China on Tuesday expressed the hope that the U.S. government will invite World Health Organization (WHO) experts to carry out novel coronavirus source tracing research in the United States.
Foreign Ministry spokesperson Wang Wenbin made the remarks at a press briefing after U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said in an interview that China’s arrangements for WHO experts were not transparent.
Since the outbreak of the pandemic, China has always maintained close communication and cooperation with WHO on the source tracing issue in an open and transparent manner, Wang noted, adding that the visit of WHO experts to China is part of the global scientific research cooperation on source tracing. The Chinese government has provided strong support and assistance to this end.
“Chinese experts have shared a large amount of information and research results with their counterparts and conducted several rounds of in-depth exchanges on scientific issues of common concern. WHO and international experts made positive comments on this,” said the spokesperson.
Virus source tracing is a complex scientific issue involving many countries and places. Many clues, reports and studies indicate that the COVID-19 pandemic had already broken out in many parts of the world as early as the second half of 2019, Wang added.
He cited the example of a report by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), which says COVID-19 antibodies were found in blood samples from routine blood donations collected in December 2019 in the United States.
This means COVID-19 infections may have occurred in the U.S. at that time, earlier than the country’s first official case on Jan. 21, 2020, he said.
“It is hoped that the U.S. side will adopt a positive, scientific and cooperative attitude and maintain transparency on the virus source tracing issue, as China has done, and invite WHO experts to carry out source tracing research in the United States, so as to make positive contributions to international anti-epidemic cooperation and scientific source tracing,” he said.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 3 2021 6:36 utc | 292

The Scottish first lady has been caught out and is soon to go.
Crag Murray adds context.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 3 2021 8:37 utc | 293

Craig Murray expresses his supreme disgust at perfidious Albion and its ethnic cleansing of the Chagos Island people.

The International Tribunal of the Law of the Sea, a UN body based in Hamburg, last week delivered a stern and unequivocal rebuke to the UK in ruling the UK has no legal interest in the maritime area of the Chagos Islands. You will recall that the UK in the 1970’s ethnically cleansed the entire population from Chagos at gunpoint to make way for the US nuclear base on the Chagos Island of Diego Garcia.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 3 2021 8:42 utc | 294

Mint Press News reports on utoob censorship mania.

An academic critical media literacy conference warning of the dangers of media censorship has, ironically, been censored by YouTube. The Critical Media Literacy Conference of the Americas 2020 took place without incident online over two days in October and featured a number of esteemed speakers and panels discussing issues concerning modern media studies.
Weeks later, however, the entire video record of the conference — estimated at around 24 hours of material — disappeared from YouTube. Organizer Nolan Higdon of California State University East Bay, began receiving worried messages from other academics, some of which were shared with MintPress, who had been using the material in their classrooms, noting that it had all mysteriously disappeared.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 3 2021 10:03 utc | 295

@james 263, yes well, it is a safe bet that he is merely a pawn. There is a social element and a betting element in quickly reducing Navalny to a pawn of the US. I stubbornly resist both and keep open softer judgements which include both elements of courage and sincerity. Then again, maybe I’m just slow.

Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Feb 3 2021 10:09 utc | 296

It may have been mentioned in other comments here, but in other news….
A color revolution underway in India to oust Modi.
From Reuters “Protesting Indian farmers won global attention on Wednesday with prominent Western activists joining pop superstar Rihanna in support of their months-long campaign against agriculture reforms but India said the intervention was irresponsible.”
Yankistan and the anglosphere needs a kamakazi leader in India that is willing to destroy their country in pursuit of five-eyes dominance over China.
Myanmar.. the five-eyes candidate that usurped leadership there has been arrested in a blow to the anglosphere. I expect ‘non governmental organizations’ that work for five-eyes governments will be very busy there.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 3 2021 11:02 utc | 297

denk 284
read your comment after posting mine. Something odd in Myanmar. Aung san was the five-eyes candidate but then she visited China. Although she couldn’t run for a political position, the five-eyes media elected her leader of Myanmar. Now she’s been ousted, five-eyes media craps on about democracy.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 3 2021 11:12 utc | 298

Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Feb 3 2021 10:09 utc | 297
It is a noble attitude to think that wrong headed people are driven by good intentions. And me too I leave some space and accept the fact that maybe, maybe Navally is sincere in his intentions since quite a few of my friends in Russia are quite unhappy with the situation, especially the economy.
Here you have an article by Lieven that supports your way of thinking. But on the other hand here you have the link to a press release by Yves Rocher, the french company that supposedly was the victim of the Navalny brothers fraud. Read it attentively and you’ll see that the company does not want to take a political position, but in a very diplomatic way they accept the court decision on the fraud and for them the case is closed.
Lieven
Yves Rocher

Posted by: Paco | Feb 3 2021 11:14 utc | 299

cirsium @ 273
Yes, thanks for that. The information oozing out is getting more and more tangible and what with so much crow to be eaten by so many,…
…’cause, ya know, fear leads to, among other things, guilt.

Posted by: john | Feb 3 2021 11:57 utc | 300