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January 31, 2021
The MoA Week In Review – OT 2021-009

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@ Roger
If China is indeed socialist, there wouldn’t be private corporations with billionaires, there wouldn’t be unemployment and there wouldn’t be rising house prices.
The fact figures like Jack Ma exists to be taken down in the first place that China hasn’t been socialist but now is getting back on-track (maybe).
Unfortunately, Vietnam is on diverting as China with the rise of the billionaire class like Pham Nhat Vuong that gets rich on property and commodities sale, I hope we do get back on track though.

Posted by: Smith | Feb 1 2021 3:22 utc | 101

@Smith
Capitalism, Marxism, Socialism are all Western concepts. What I am proposing is that China is none of those but a mix of Chinese, and adopted elements of capitalism and socialism. Their political and philosophical traditions are quite different to Western ones.
Roger

Posted by: Roger | Feb 1 2021 5:10 utc | 102

I have been watching the markets over the weekend and the futures market for everything silver is up significantly.
Monday’s SLV and PSLV action will be interesting to watch. I am reading the the big banks and the BIS will play “whack-a-mole” with this silver market by dumping $billions of dollars of notional like they have done with gold in the past when it has gotten too frothy.
Beside the swings and volume in SLV/PSLV it will be interesting to see how much investment carries over to coins and miners…..and if enough to cause more whack-a-mole activity?
And then there are the back office dynamics to all this silver froth. All it takes is one of the players not to be able to cover their part of a clearing event, for whatever moment. Just rest assured that the loss from any fuck-ups will come out of the public hide, not the, doing Gawd’s work, private finance acolytes.
I am excited about this situation because it represents one of the few that I have witnessed where the public may have the ability to send a clear and serious message to the elite that all is not well on Main Street because of their perfidy…….( someone told me today that I suffer from one of the new “ism’s”….Hopeism )

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 1 2021 5:27 utc | 103

China is a living example of Permanent Revolution. You cannot just will a communist society into existence. It must be built. Furthermore, society is not independent of the material conditions of existence of the population, but rather it is an outgrowth of those conditions. Chinese communists are developing the material conditions for communism as quickly as they can, and instrumentally using market forces to that end is part of the plan. That doesn’t mean that China is capitalist, though, as the plan takes precedence over the market.
The efforts to differentiate capitalism into separate “kinds” is nothing more than capitalist apologia. It is arguing that if one just had the right “kind” of capitalism then all would be OK, but there is really only one kind. Financial capitalism and industrial capitalism are the same thing just at differing points in the capitalist life cycle.

Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 1 2021 5:45 utc | 104

Correction: “Financial capitalism and industrial capitalism are the same thing just at differing points in the imperial life cycle.”
Most capitalist states never transition to financial capitalism because they are devoured by capitalism’s financial empire. Sorry for the lack of clarity there.

Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 1 2021 5:57 utc | 105

@ karlof1
I have only ever had respect for those who post on this site. I would like to think that I would not use anonymity to be so rude and patronizing. You are not the gatekeeper of anything but a superannuated opinion. If asked politely what I meant I would gladly discuss it with civility and mutual respect. I am a retired Professor in the Humanities (Classical Studies) with a strong interest in Marx and critical theory and therefore enjoy reading the views in this intelligent forum, but I would not consider myself uneducated but rather willing to learn. I would hope we all have the humility not to elevate opinion to dogma, but it seems you have because you were not in the slightest bit curious about what I meant. I was drawing on Bataille and Bourdieu but I guess you have pronounced your verdict and tried to browbeat another into silence. I used to have students in class who bullied other students in the same way. It was ugly. Incidentally, you hardly offered a refutation.

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 1 2021 5:57 utc | 106

Thanks, james @ 84. We read and discussed Marx in college, but that was on a different planet and I have no memory of what was said or how much of Marx that was. Michael Hudson always is explaining the results of the present emphasis on finance rather than trade in things. The way to disagree with him has to be by pointing out that no, it isn’t happening that way. We’ll maybe have to wait until we enter those pearly gates, collar Marx and ask him, what would he say about what is happening today?
But maybe vk will tell us.

Posted by: juliania | Feb 1 2021 6:05 utc | 107

@ Roger
I don’t believe that. It’s just Orientalism lie, if you go to China, you will see it function like any modern country.
Any attempt to mix in Confucianism (what is even Confucianism nowadays?) is just an excuse to the bankers and billionaire class.

Posted by: Smith | Feb 1 2021 6:09 utc | 108

Smith @ 86, Thanks for that summation. What used to be talked about, but is so far from being the case at present, was regulated capitalism. There were government rules that prevented the problem you address in your post, and they had teeth. Those rules have been overturned. I haven’t seen any rational argument that this had to happen.
Or, as with Russia, the people can elect (given honest counting of votes) a leader who puts the oligarchs out of business if they don’t do what will help all the people of the country.
But I think what Michael Hudson is pointing towards is that building an alternative economy based on financial profits alone ultimately wrecks everyone, including the rentiers. He doesn’t need to say it; it’s obvious, isn’t it?
I guess not to everyone yet.

Posted by: juliania | Feb 1 2021 6:24 utc | 109

Patroklos @ 109, you may not have meant to be rude, but I’d ask that you don’t just attack a person in this manner. As a classicist you’ll remember that Socrates, if ironically, always addresses those he differs with in a charming manner — you’ll go further doing that. And as vk objected to the Hudson analysis, bring facts to bear on the issues at hand. Theory is like religion; it requires study such as you yourself have committed to. We really need to hear arguments and counter arguments on a forum such as this, and if you have them, they are welcome.

Posted by: juliania | Feb 1 2021 6:43 utc | 110

One of Dr. Fauci’s biggest failure remains unmentioned. And that is the use of the PCR test to make decisions on the pandemic. It is a test method that had neither been standardized nor validated – not to speak of using a test method that measures something that is not relevant for the purpose (it identifies fragments of virus proteins rather than infection).
Even more specifically, how can the data from various labs be compared when the count threshold value (Ct) can be anywhere between 25 to 45, and is generally not reported with the data? This is the number of cycles run where in each cycle the amount of the target protein is doubled. That means if a lab runs the same samples 25 cycles vs 45 cycles, then the difference in the amount of the protein detected would be one million fold!
I suppose Dr. Fauci was not personally responsible for the listed lapses, but in his position, he couldn’t have missed this failure and shouldn’t have let it happen.

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Feb 1 2021 6:46 utc | 111

@52 stonebird
“Caught with naked shorts…”
Slaps on the wrist. Wags of the finger.
Taxpayer bail-outs. Just what Psycho laid out above.
Uncle Sambo might be spared the guillotine from the proles if they can frame this “insurrection” against Big Finance along these lines:
“This was a Russian-operation, using White Supremacists, to target your 401k’s!”
Then those who lost big in the collapse will sign over what is left of their liberty for some band-aids. But lots of nest-eggers will be screwed.
Who knows, this might be the beginnings of a Sampson option, being in a pincer between Russia abroad and Conservative-Patriots and Prog-Dems at home.
Let us see.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Feb 1 2021 6:57 utc | 112

If the claimed efficacy of Ivermectin is true, then we could end the pandemic in just a few months, if we wanted to. I have been following FLCCC’s amazing work since mid 2020 and it just gets better.
Ivermectin is a cheap anti-parasitic drug that is being used very successfully for several decades to treat snd cure a host of diseases. It has been prescribed four billion times (for a host of parasitic diseases) so far with an outstanding track record of safety and efficacy.
FLCCC has been exploring its use both as a Covid-19 prophylaxis and treatment with outstanding results. It boggles my mind that our regulatory authorities are dragging their feet claiming lack of data when none of the vaccines come even close to what FLCCC has already demonstrated for Ivermectin. To top it off, Ivermectin had a decade long track record of safety whereas the vaccines are made with completely new technologies.
Here is the latest webinar. Enjoy and wonder….
https://covid19criticalcare.com/media/flccc-lecture-for-ypo-gold-on-ivermectin/

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Feb 1 2021 7:02 utc | 113

Also watch Dr. Pierre Kory’s testimony to Senate Committee about Ivermectin, Dec. 8, 2020.
Everything points to Ivermectin being a miracle drug. As I said before, if we wanted to, then we could end this pandemic in a few months. Would big Pharma allow this?
https://covid19criticalcare.com/

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Feb 1 2021 7:18 utc | 114

I will add to my post @ 113 thanks, Patroclus as your own post caused me to return to the link karlof1 provided, (and he may very well have meant me when he without naming anyone provided it as I’m a bit of a dolt when it comes to the economy – all I know about the word is that when Eve was created using Adam’s rib the Greek term used for her fashioning by Alexandrian scholars has the same root, meaning ‘housebuilding’.)
It really was a good essay by Michael Hudson, dealing very clearly with the subject at hand, and written at the end of 1970 no less. Here’s one quote:

“…This decade will see a revolution that will overthrow these untenable theories. Such revolutions in economic thought are not infrequent. Indeed, virtually all of the leading economic postulates and “tools of the trade” have been developed in the context of political-economic debates accompanying turning points in economic history. Thus, for every theory put forth there has been a counter-theory…”

The essay is about how theories in economics apply to the era in which the economist lives, to address the problems of that time. Prof. Hudson’s analysis says that the problems of our time aren’t being addressed by the economic theory being taught then or now.
So,is he right or wrong? It’s a fair question.

Posted by: juliania | Feb 1 2021 7:23 utc | 115

Mao #95
I agree, there were trillions dumped into circulation around September ’20 as well afaik and is bound to push and create gross distortion in the market. IMO as I said in the related thread, there are big players in this game and it is obscure to see if it is just greed or a mega shakedown. Maybe sort the hedgies into which mafia or political party association to reveal alignment patterns. Is it the israeli vs italian mafia or maga vs blue vs red? I saw JPMorgan mentioned and speculated if there was a BIG shakedown under way. soros? or even end days and aftermath of the great casino man Adelson perhaps. I am too remote but I speculate there is a mighty big grift underway.
There must be chatter on reddit?

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 1 2021 8:48 utc | 116

NemesisCalling | Feb 1 2021 6:57 utc | 115
Slaps on the wrist. Wags of the finger.
“Tut-tut”
About the same conclusion as I came to. Just wanted a second opinion.
Taxpayer bail-outs
Tell me again, with MMT, and bailouts, why do we pay taxes ? After all the Fed can give “money” (flouze) directly to the gov, who will spend it with glee, or the Pentagon who never counts the cost (or do audits – but that is normal, since the time the airplanes that ran into the WTC7 Pentagon archives, and the finance oversight department in the Pentagon itself, they couldn’t have been replaced yet). Or to Banks with their shorts down. The “reset” is saying that”everyone should be debtors and like it. But a debt is not revenue, so is non taxable? (Tax deductible?)
I’m slow this morning – I just don’t see why we should pay taxes if the “Flouze” comes from the Fed in a never ending stream. No need to work, all play. “Hi ho silver and awaaay.”

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 1 2021 8:52 utc | 117

Mao | Feb 1 2021 0:54 utc | 95
Your reddit thread. You missed the major cause of the fall in 2008. These were Bear Sterns and Lehmans (Banks) who were indeed hit by massive short selling (both types) coming due at the same period. (Within 2 or 3 days)
According to one report in the “Rolling Stone” which you will no longer find, the competitor Banks at that time literally first got together at a private meeting “without” the victims being invited. The Fed itself was supposed to be in on the killing. BS was the only Major Bank that was not owned by the usual suspects. (Don’t make me say who). After they had also reduced the influence of UBS via “holocaust” money, they seem to have been after total control of the entire (Private?) banking system. There would be only six major Banks left. That was 2008.
They are doing the same again and the destruction of the Banking system is possibly once more one of the AIMS of the present turmoil. “There is money in mayhem”. IF they are anticipating a breakdown, then they will be prepared to pounce to clear up the “real” assets underneath.
(See JPM and the possibility they have been hoarding something in the Silver market. I forget what and where I saw the comment, sorry)

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 1 2021 9:33 utc | 118

Mao | Feb 1 2021 0:54 utc | 95 bis.
Thinking further after a third cup of coffee, it is starting to look like a preconceived setup. The “targets” are not necessarily the small time players but the hedge funds themselves. ie. the biggest Banks/players want to wipe the floor clean and eliminate many of the (now intermediate) hedgies. There are many that are hurting and who have never seen a “downward slope” in their lives. They are making too much “flouze”, so they must be “corrected”.
Aside; the Fed may be in on it. The ownership of the Fed is not known. I once followed an inquiry into its’ ownership that found that the majors were so deliberately intertwined (ownership of company/Bank X that had part or whole ownership of Y,Z who in turn …..) that ultimate ownership was imposssible to find. They work closely with JPM, Wells Fargo, American etc. anyway.

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 1 2021 10:03 utc | 119

Nathan Mulcahy
I suppose Dr. Fauci was not personally responsible for the listed lapses, but in his position, he couldn’t have missed this failure and shouldn’t have let it happen
Like most entrenched hacks, Fauci is an habitual liar. And as an advocate for what’s become everyone’s favorite pathogen, he’s again doubling down…so, double up!

Posted by: john | Feb 1 2021 10:12 utc | 120

Posted by: Stonebird | Jan 31 2021 14:05 utc | 79
We pay taxes to keep us poor, not wealthy. To pull the ladder up.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 1 2021 10:16 utc | 121

Sorry that was for #131, don’t know how that happened.
“Tell me again, with MMT, and bailouts, why do we pay taxes ?”

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 1 2021 10:18 utc | 122

@ Bemildred
Ideally, the tax is there to regulate the amount of money in the market, if you have the super wealthy, they definitely should be taxed the hardest, just to avoid them concentrating their capital power.
So low taxes for the working class, but high taxes for the wealthy, that’s how it should work.

Posted by: Smith | Feb 1 2021 10:21 utc | 123

Posted by: Smith | Feb 1 2021 10:21 utc | 137
Well, yeah, I’m acquainted with the theory a bit, but I really don’t believe any of that stuff. Just because you have a theory, that doesn’t mean you actually know what you are talking about. To be clear, I don’t believe in “economics”. I believe in bookkeeping and accounting and inventory management, but economics as practices in academia I consider pretty much pure bullshit.
In practice, it’s what I said. They want us poor and needy. We scared the shit out of them in the 60s and they have been peddling backward like mad ever since, trying to take back all they gave us after WWII to compete with the Commies for world domination.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 1 2021 10:28 utc | 124

@ Juliania
You say “Patroklos @ 109, you may not have meant to be rude, but I’d ask that you don’t just attack a person in this manner”
If you look at posts 93 and 94 you will see that I was not being rude but responding to rudeness. I have respect for Karlof1 but he is dismissive and it is not always warranted. I thought that vk’s criticism of Hudson was pertinent, and believe in a fair and civil exchange of viewpoints. I was simply calling out that disagreement with another does not entail a lack of education on their part. It may be the reverse.

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 1 2021 11:13 utc | 125

@ Posted by: Roger | Feb 1 2021 5:10 utc | 105
Marx is the exception. He seats both in the Western and the Eastern pantheon of the great thinkers. He is literally the first universal philosopher in History.
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@ Posted by: juliania | Feb 1 2021 6:05 utc | 110
My advice on Marx to all of you is simply to read Marx. All of his relevant works are freely available on the internet and, if you read German, you an even read the unpublished stuff (MEGA project website).
You don’t need to read his obscure stuff – letters, small manuscripts etc. – as those are just for the truly experts who delve more on Marx’s biography than on his theory. From the point of view of the proletariat, what matters are his main published works – Capital (the three books) being by far the most important one. Grundrisse is important in my opinion, as there it develops on Capital (Marx was extremely rigorous with himself, so many things he considered “unfinished” could easily earn anybody a Ph.D. in Ivy League or Oxbridge). After that, there are the “young Marx” stuff, and the Gotha Program critique. My point is: you don’t have to be afraid, reading the main works is more than enough.
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More updates on Myanmar:
China: China hopes for a stable, peaceful Myanmar through domestic negotiations, not external interference
USA: White House condemns Myanmar military takeover, says US will ‘take action’ if necessary
Looks like the situation, for now, is 100% domestic. Let’s hope it continues to be so.

Posted by: vk | Feb 1 2021 11:51 utc | 126

Posted by: vk | Feb 1 2021 11:51 utc | 140
It could stop being domestic,it is an important country for China’s southern BRI. Plus the Russian side doesn’t seem to be exceedingly concerned. Look at the picture:
https://vz.ru/world/2021/2/1/1082911.html

Posted by: Paco | Feb 1 2021 13:16 utc | 127

vk @140
I don’t think the military are necessarily the bad guys in Myanmar. More to the point, Aung San Suu Kyi is one of those neoliberals whom the empire takes under their wing and trains up to be one of their viceroys, like Mikheil Saakashvili for example. Removing her is a step towards Myanmar being independent from the empire and a viable participant in the new multipolar world order. We’ll know for sure about that if we see a surge in Islamic terror attacks in Myanmar that are accompanied by the telltale chorus of support from the Mockingbird mass media.

Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 1 2021 13:42 utc | 128

@Nathan Mulcahy, 118
Regarding the efficacy of ivermectin, there is also the testimony of Professor Thomas Borody https://covexit.com/we-know-its-curable-its-easier-than-treating-the-flu-professor-thomas-borody/

Posted by: cirsium | Feb 1 2021 13:52 utc | 129

Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 1 2021 13:42 utc | 143
I don’t get the feeling that the Chinese or Russians are worried about it. I read another guy who was upset and thinks the people will rise up to support the civilian govt. and defeat the army. Seems unlikely to me. US is the one that raises the alarm, and it would fit as “applying pressure” on China and the new, tough Biden policy. So far, if anybody cares it’s USA, and that makes the most sense. But it may be purely internal, lots of stuff we don’t know, neighboring states to consider, etc. It’s hard to see why the Chinese would do anything and its not their style. Russians would not butt in there in Myanmar, other things to do anyway. USA should stop frittering away it’s assets with this sort of cleverness and get back to building a real economy so we can compete,

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 1 2021 14:01 utc | 130

Burmese people aren’t exactly neo-liberal, they’re quite nationalist and massively religious. Suu Kyi might be more liberal than the average, but she’s Burmese first of all. Myanmar isn’t going to turn towards the West, they’re watching Korean soaps and going to India, Thailand or Vietnam to visit Buddhist sites and temples, have a huge amount of monks fed by the people’s huge donations of money and food. Economic ties with China were strong under NLD’s rule, they joined BRI and RCEP under NLD’s rule.
I think the Global Times article that vk linked to is quite correct: the inbred generals assumed they would win elections because they were the most organized and had huge control over the country. There obviously was no way they wouldn’t get trounced and Suu Kyi wouldn’t win big time. Now they’re really upset because it happened a second time, with similar results and advances. USDP is destroyed, but there’s no reason and no way they would’ve won considerably more seats in 2020 than in 2015. The only part where I disagree with the Global Times article is about “correcting the imbalance between militar and NLD. NLD is for all intent the Burmese people – just like ANC was basically the Black people in South Africa at the time of Mandela’s release and first elections -, the military is just the army, not a democratic government; the only imbalance was that the military still had veto rights and could still nominate ministers and a sizable chunk of parliament. When this is over, they will lose everything.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Feb 1 2021 14:22 utc | 131

Myanmar Coup – MoA’s next post?
As soon as any info actually emerges, no TV or Internet, who knows what’s actually going on:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-politics/myanmar-military-seizes-power-detains-elected-leader-aung-san-suu-kyi-idUSKBN2A00VC
Was Aung San Suu Kyi another Guaido/Navalnyi style Western democratic privatisation puppet empowered to flood the country with McDonalds stores, GMO foods and slave labour factories to undermine Chinese productivity and regional influence? Was she not delivering? Was this the final nail in her coffin after her “deification to vilification” in the liberal media?
Don’t know enough about her or the country, purely speculating.. anyone?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/19/west-aung-san-suu-kyi-saint-nobel-rohingya
https://www.livemint.com/Leisure/VD1afpQ4Wx5IeiqknslO3I/The-myths-of-Aung-San-Suu-Kyi.html

Posted by: Et TU | Feb 1 2021 14:22 utc | 132

China has released an extra-official statement on Myanmar’s situation:
Democracy in Myanmar faces uncertain future: Global Times editorial
Recommend the read.

Posted by: vk | Feb 1 2021 14:24 utc | 133

Hey B
What do you make of this?
“searching for the remains of American war captives and missing persons.”
https://m.facebook.com/groups/947867908642430/permalink/3713413445421182/

Posted by: Surferket | Feb 1 2021 14:42 utc | 134

It was the Communist leaders of China and Vietnam that convinced Mandela at the Davos Forum in 1992 to not nationalise key industries in South Africa and embrace free markets:

The story of Mr. Mandela’s evolving economic view is eye-opening: It happened in January 1992 during a trip to Davos, Switzerland, for the annual meeting of the World Economic Forum. Mr. Mandela was persuaded to support an economic framework for South Africa based on capitalism and globalization after a series of conversations with other world leaders.
“They changed my views altogether,” Mr. Mandela told Anthony Sampson, his friend and the author of “Mandela: The Authorized Biography.” “I came home to say: ‘Chaps, we have to choose. We either keep nationalization and get no investment, or we modify our own attitude and get investment.”
Inside South Africa, Mr. Mandela’s quick reversal was viewed with skepticism, and questions have long persisted about whether he was somehow pressured by the West to open up the country’s economy.
However, according to Tito Mboweni, a former governor of the South African Reserve Bank, who accompanied Mr. Mandela to Davos, Mr. Mandela’s change of heart was genuine.
When they arrived in Davos, where Mr. Mandela was scheduled to speak, “We were presented with a speech, prepared by some well-meaning folks at the A.N.C. office” in
Johannesburg that focused on “nationalization as A.N.C. policy,” Mr. Mboweni recounted in a letter to the Sunday Independent newspaper in South Africa late last year. “We discussed this at some length and decided that the content was inappropriate for a Davos audience.”
“So I drafted a short message for the audience,” he added. “That message was about how the A.N.C. intended to achieve social justice for the majority black people: decent housing, health care, decent education, public transport, access to clean water, sanitation and access to what I called ‘the means of production,’ that is, the creation of a black business class. That is all. No capitulation.”
But as the five-day conference of high-level speed-dating wore on, Mr. Mandela soon decided he needed to reconsider his long-held views: “Madiba then had some very interesting meetings with the leaders of the Communist Parties of China and Vietnam,” Mr. Mboweni wrote, using Mr. Mandela’s clan name. “They told him frankly as follows: ‘We are currently striving to privatize state enterprises and invite private enterprise into our economies. We are Communist Party governments, and you are a leader of a national liberation movement. Why are you talking about nationalization?’ ”
“It was those decisive moments which made him think about the need for our movement to seriously rethink the issue,” Mr. Mboweni said.

How Mandela Shifted Views
On Freedom Of Markets

Posted by: Down South | Feb 1 2021 14:51 utc | 135

@141 and the comments at Vzgliad (in Russian) – the heading says that the coup opens new opportunities for Russia in Asia, and that the head of the coup has sympathies with Russia. Myanmar’s importance for China and BRI is also mentioned.
So, I’d think all this talk about the coup nixing BRI misses the point (or reveals a lack of knowledge about Myanmar). The M. military has long cooperated with the Chinese – and I mean long (remember it back from the 1980s).
Vzgliad also mentions India and that Indians may have wanted to use M. in aiding its antagonism to China. So, this may be a more complex game being played than what would first appear.

Posted by: GoraKoshka | Feb 1 2021 14:51 utc | 136

@ Posted by: Down South | Feb 1 2021 14:51 utc | 150
This quote is interesting:

“They told him frankly as follows: ‘We are currently striving to privatize state enterprises and invite private enterprise into our economies. We are Communist Party governments, and you are a leader of a national liberation movement. Why are you talking about nationalization?’”

It is interesting because, at least in China’s case (I don’t know about Vietnam), we know today that no SOE was privatized – they were only restructured between themselves, through fusions.
So, either the CPC tried – but somewhat failed – to privatize its SOEs, or the quote came exclusively from the CPV, or it is a fabrication. There’s also the possibility the quote was cropped and put out of context, as its syntax is kinda weird, it feels incomplete.

Posted by: vk | Feb 1 2021 15:01 utc | 137

@148, vk – the editorial is quite nuanced, and is not at all a denunciation of the coup. It must be read very carefully.

Posted by: GoraKoshka | Feb 1 2021 15:01 utc | 138

vk @ 152
The story is true. Everyone in South Africa knows it. The Chinese openly bragged about it that it was them and not the West that convinced Nandela to not nationalise key industries.
Tito Mboweni is the current Minister of Finance, he’s no liar.

Posted by: Down South | Feb 1 2021 15:11 utc | 139

@ Posted by: cirsium | Feb 1 2021 13:52 utc | 144
Thanks for the link from Professor Thomas Borody on treatment of Covid-19 with Ivermectin.
Getting the vaccine is like buying a cat in a sack. Why would I do so if I can buy just the cat (which is use Ivermectin as a prophylaxis)? Equally good to know that Ivermectin has such high efficacy in treating in the early stage. Most people who contact the virus are asked to stay home and wait (until things get so serious that they have to go to the hospital). Wrong!! Take Ivermectin at home as early treatment.
More on the utter insanity, not to speak of fraud, with the vaccines from Professor Sucharit Bhakdi. Watch before YouTube removes it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOFHlVmACJo

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Feb 1 2021 15:29 utc | 140

vk @148
Interesting statement from China. They stress rapid economic development as key to reducing tensions in Myanmar. China’s BRI is obviously the only way for that to come about. We’ll know if the military is listening if they move quickly to embrace BRI development.

Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 1 2021 15:32 utc | 141

@ Posted by: john | Feb 1 2021 10:12 utc | 134
Yes indeed. Fauci the fraud says, “So, if you have a physical covering with one layer, you put another layer on, it just makes common sense that it likely would be more effective and that’s the reason why you see people either double masking or doing a version of an N95,” Fauci said this week.”
So why not use cloth pegs to close your nose? That would be even more effective in blocking the virus

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Feb 1 2021 15:41 utc | 142

@ Posted by: Down South | Feb 1 2021 15:11 utc | 154
The term “privatization” has a very specific meaning. It means selling (often through fraudulent methods) State property to capitalists (often from the USA). It’s different from stating you’re opening up your economy to private exploitation.
I don’t remember China privatizing any of its SOEs. Maybe it happened during the two most pro-capitalist leaders China has ever had (the ones who succeeded Deng Xiaoping) – but, if it did, they weren’t the main ones. Your source also mentions the CPV, not only the CPC, so this specific part about privatizations may have come exclusively from the CPV. Maybe Tito Mboweni fused two separate occasions – one with each party – in one single episode in order to simplify the story (fusion of similar events is a common mistake people do when telling stories from memory).

Posted by: vk | Feb 1 2021 15:46 utc | 143

Et Tu – 147
Aung Sang Suu Kyi has at least as much support as Putin ever has. She’s basically at Mandela’s level back in 1992. If you’ve toured the country in the last 5 years, it’s obvious, everywhere you go, in shops, small businesses and the like, her picture is there; it’s like it was a Stalinist totalitarian state, except she doesn’t have that power and it’s actually genuine. In the long rune, I’d expect that it would diminish because she’s bound to disappoint some people on some issues, were she given full control of government, or she’d die before it happens.
Internet connexions were cut off for a time, but I’ve seen some people posting on Facebook in the last few hours – they’re not happy with what happened, but for obvious reasons won’t make too harsh comments, merely stating that they indeed voted for NLD and there was no massive fraud.
Gora Koshka is also right, both NLD government and military previously were on good terms with China, who was happy the country never became a Western base of operations, and has been investing massively of late. So I’m not sure there’s been much external interference there. It might actually be mostly internal infighting, the military realizing it has lost most power, but then they’ve been mediocre at managing the country before and won’t be better now, and will face bigger popular opposition. I’m wondering what the Buddhist establishment will do, considering its massive influence.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Feb 1 2021 16:21 utc | 144

Blinken starts right in with the bullshit:

This includes the SolarWinds hack, reported Russian bounties on U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan, election interference and the poisoning of Russian opposition figure Alexie Navalny, which the U.S. has blamed on the Russian internal security services.
“We’re looking into all of these things. All of them are under review. And depending on the findings of those reviews, we will take steps to stand up for our interests and stand against Russian aggressive actions,” Blinken said, adding that President Biden raised all these concerns in a call last week with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
The secretary further called it a “mistake” for Moscow to try and allege U.S. interference in anti-corruption protests that are sweeping Russia, condemning the arrests of thousands of peaceful protesters.

US prepared to ‘stand up’ to Moscow, says secretary of State
He sounds insecure to me.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 1 2021 16:29 utc | 145

@ Posted by: Illusionsofmagicians | Feb 1 2021 15:55 utc | 159
It’s not so simple as you state. Mao Zedong always had very clear in mind (even before the success of the Revolution in 1949) that socialism in China would have first a transitory phase where private enterprise would not only exist but even be stimulated by the government. Deng Xiaoping didn’t invent the concept of market socialism. Mao’s Marxism marks a significant break from what we would later call “Western Marxism”. For that, I recommend you to read “The Chinese conquer China”, by Anna Louise Strong. The book was published in 1949, and she was in loco during the second phase of the Civil War (until 1947, if I’m not mistaken), and lived in Yenan and interviewed Mao Zedong (and many others).
For a contemporary source, I highly recommend you to read this one, fresh from the oven:
Major Issues Concerning China’s Strategies for Mid-to-Long-Term Economic and Social Development, by Xi Jinping

Posted by: vk | Feb 1 2021 16:35 utc | 146

How many people who are getting the Covid-19 vaccine realize that they are actually taking part in an ongoing clinical study?
Actual Study Start Date: April 29, 2020
Estd. Primary Completion Date: August 3, 2021
Estd. study Completion Data: January 31, 2023
I am not sure whether to describe the populace as sheep or guinea pig…..
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04368728

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Feb 1 2021 16:38 utc | 147

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Feb 1 2021 16:38 utc | 163
We are guinea sheep

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Feb 1 2021 17:11 utc | 148

Aung San was nurtured by fukus to take over Myanmar from the junta, the west gave her a NObel peace prize no less.
To fukus chagrin, Aung San didnt followed their script after her ascension, She got cozy with China
big time.
For the [[[five liars]]], Thats a cardinal sin punishable by death.
I compiled a faq on dozens of ‘panda huggers’ deposed by fukus for the past seventy years.
Just two examples here…
2001,
Nepal’s king Birendra’s entire family was wiped out in a CIA/RAW joint op, right after he returned from Beijing.
Pro China Indon prez Sukarno was ousted in 1965, in one of the greatest genocide of 20C.
This could very well be an internal power struggle.
But I surely wouldnt let pass the possibility of another fukus regime change to remove Aung San, an ‘asset’
who turned rogue.
Empire 101
In every regime change,
Consider fukus guilty until proven innocent.
Works like a charm since WW2

Posted by: denk | Feb 1 2021 17:37 utc | 149

RE: When the economic crash finally happens (?!)
In preparation for that, it seems to me that cashing in retirement investments for cash, or other similar transactions, won’t help, as it’s all based on the US dollar anyway.
It seems to me that it might be good to trade some assets to CHINESE INTERNATIONAL CRYPTOCURRENCY, as it should be less affected by a US economic crash.
Does that sound accurate ?
Might Western governments possibly sabotage this option, by blocking access to and buying/selling of this Crypto-Yuan ?
Thank you for your input, fellow Barflies !

Posted by: Featherless | Feb 1 2021 17:42 utc | 150

Re: Covid.
During a ‘debate’ program known as The Drum on ABC.net.au today it was revealed by the head of a school of nursing that Medicine Sans Frontieres is supplying nurses and medicos to Several US cities. The volunteers report that the situation in USA is worse than in many 3rd world countries, in terms of lack of facilities, preparedness and planning.
Scum Mo has announced that Oz.gov has budgeted $2 Billion for the FREE innoculation program, in which participation will be voluntary, in theory. With a population of 25 Million that works out to $80-00 per person.
There was also a ‘debate’ about whether Oz and other countries which have successfully controlled Covid to date have “over-reacted?” The consensus was “Probably, but…”

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 1 2021 17:45 utc | 151

Posted by: vk | Feb 1 2021 16:35 utc | 162
Thanks, nice. How are you going to stop that? It’s a bit too late anyway, and it is hard to see why you need to.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 1 2021 17:52 utc | 152

@ Roger | Feb 1 2021 3:11 utc | 103… thanks for your posts on this thread roger.. i appreciate the long view you are providing, especially in this post @ 103… i happen to think your comment here is very relevant and germane to the conversation…
@ juliania | Feb 1 2021 6:05 utc | 110.. thanks juliania.. i won’t be waiting for vk to comment directly as that is obviously a nonstarter! i think some of these folks talking this are good with the theory, but fall down with reality… reality is much more complicated which is why i like rogers comment @ 103 as much as i did.. it is the context that is so important and typically not considered by theorists… also i think it was fair for Patroklos @ 109 to say what he did.. i have enjoyed his participation in this conversation as well… cheers! james

Posted by: james | Feb 1 2021 17:55 utc | 153

@ denk | Feb 1 2021 17:37 utc | 165 – i agree with you.. thanks..

Posted by: james | Feb 1 2021 17:57 utc | 154

I would recommend that everyone read karlof1’s link @ 94, bearing in mind that we all need education on the state of the US and the word with respect to the economy. That link is to a Michael Hudson essay written in 1970, and here is one from today that bears on it – I’ve only just begun reading it, and apologies for my truncated presentation here, but if you go to the short link you will find the article easily enough I hope:
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/
2021/02/my-advice-to-an-aspiring-economist-dont-be-an-economist.html

Posted by: juliania | Feb 1 2021 17:58 utc | 155

Posted by: denk | Feb 1 2021 17:37 utc | 165

Nepal’s king Birendra’s entire family was wiped out in a CIA/RAW joint op, right after he returned from Beijing.

Is this verified true?
Wikipedia, that bastion of correctness, casts aspersions on it’s veracity.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 1 2021 18:05 utc | 156

Two “oversights” in the reporting about Aung Sang Suu Kyi and Malysia.
1) Drugs. Isn’t this a sideline of the military?
2) Rohingas. Isn’t ASSK anti-rohinga as they are not “Malysian” and she was criticised for treating them badly? She refused to help them and preferred to allow them to be massacred as “not ethnically part of her concern”.
1) As usual – infighting for illicit asset control?
2) It is more likely that China or Russia will be “luke warm” about directly taking on a liability. Long term, OK,

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 1 2021 18:12 utc | 157

Language control = mind control

If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers.

-Thomas Pynchon

Recently, we have seen several good examples of public gaslighting. They invariably involve suppressing negative information and redirection that involves abuse of language via conflating or re-defining terms.

  1. Experimental vaccines => “I believe in Science!”
    Those who are wary about taking an experimental vaccine created with new technology that has never been widely used are positioned as Anti-Vaxxers. At the same time, media ignores:

    • The lack of info regarding long-term effects;
    • Military investment in mRNA tech;
    • Alternatives to vaccines are never mentioned: vitamin supplements (esp. vitamin D); treatments like HCL+Zinc and Ivermectin; the East Asian model of fighting the virus (notably: quarantine instead of self-isolation at home and rigorous contact tracing);
    • The slowness of rolling out standard vaccines vs. Russia and China: Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine is beset with problems and J&J’s vaccine as yet to be approved.
  2. “Great Reset” => “Great Reset”
    Until recently, “The Reset” has been a term used to describe the collapse of crony capitalism – John Maulding of Maulding Economics actually referred to this it as the “Great Reset” in 2017!
    But now the term is being co-oped to mean something like the 1960’s “Great Society” Initiative that sought to improve the lives of ordinary people – while also serving as a feel good distraction from the high military expenditures of the Vietnam War.
    Wikipedia summarizes the redefined term as such:

    The Great Reset is a proposal by the World Economic Forum (WEF) to rebuild the economy sustainably following the COVID-19 pandemic. It was unveiled in May 2020 by the United Kingdom’s Prince Charles and WEF director Klaus Schwab.

    Wikipedia has no reference to the previous use of the term and google searches for “reset” bring up lots of references to the WEF “Great Reset” at the top of the search results.
    To get a flavor for what is brewing in the WEF “Great Reset”, have a look at these links:

    • The ‘Great Reset’ is both a neoliberal fantasy and a right wing conspiracy theory
      The right-wing populist Movement is being pitted against All-That-Is-Good-And-Holy(tm).
      What this “Great Reset”]actually entails is anyone’s guess; it isn’t impossible that calls for further austerity for working people is in the offing, always a favorite of the jet setters at Davos, many of whom demand action on climate change after arriving there on private jets. One tell is the emphasis on the belief that these problems can somehow be solved without governments growing bigger.
      . . .
      Having said this, the idea of advancing the interests of ‘stakeholders’ like workers and their communities over ‘stockholders’ is an objectively good one, but anyone who thinks this is anything but empty talk needs to look at some of the other corporations that fund Schwab’s public relations exercise. In terms of oil and gas alone, donors to the WEF include BP, Chevron, Occidental and Saudi Aramco.
      … the most interesting thing about the Great Reset … is that it’s being used to further cements a paranoid political coalition of Trump loving ‘populists’ and more traditional free market and religious conservatives.
    • The Stakeholder Capitalism of the Great Reset is Cronyism on Steroids
      The idea that corporations are magically going to focus less on profits and maximizing shareholder value, and instead focus more on improving the lot of all, sounds to some like a dream come true. We must keep in mind, however, that arriving at Stakeholder Capitalism ultimately involves the marriage of the State and Corporations — not unlike China’s State Capitalism today.
      . . .
      If the state and corporations get married, it all comes down to whether they are planning to benefit themselves, or truly benefit others. To me, such a system seems a lot like Corporatism.
    • A Useful Pandemic: Davos Launches New ‘Reset,’ this Time on the Back of COVID< Even if we pass over the presumption of the reset’s name, this is a small classic of the prose of soft authoritarianism. There is an “urgent need” that must be met. There is to be cooperation and management, the world is to be “improved,” and all of this is to be put in place by “global stakeholders,” — a conveniently vague phrase, with more than a suggestion of democracy bypassed about it.
      Prince Charles! That these dialogues are a joint project of the WEF and the entitled idler next in line to the British throne is another reminder that democracy is no part of the Davos game. However admirable some of Charles’s, “initiatives” might be, if there’s anything distinctive about his beliefs, it is a distaste for the modern. This may occasionally coincide with good judgment, but it is mainly nostalgia for an era in which princes had a place and the people knew theirs. His dreams of a pre-democratic idyll complement the post-democratic thinking that has been a hallmark of the WEF (and its predecessor, the European Management Forum) for decades.
    • Davos Great Reset: French Prez Macron Declares Modern Capitalism ‘Can No Longer Work’

    Be Afraid. Be very afraid.
    When phony “leaders” like Macron and Prince Charles lead the charge, you can be sure that the fix is in.

  3. “Deep State” => “Uniparty”
    After the Capitol Riot, the opposition to right-wing populism was redefined to be the “uniparty”. “Uniparty” replaces “radical left” and “Deep State” while at the same time encompassing establishment Republicans.
    This redefinition is significant and throws a blanket over Trump’s complicity with the Deep State. FYI The “Deep State” are the bi-partisan Empire Managers and their political operatives.
    Trump’s bogus “war” with a Deep State strawman (Trump did everything the Deep State would’ve wanted), Qanon’s bullshit on steriods (likely to be a Deep State psyop), and Trump’s failure to “drain the swamp” will now be ignored.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 1 2021 18:13 utc | 158

Phantom Virus: In search of Sars-CoV-2
“Even the Robert Koch Institute and other health authorities cannot present decisive proof that a new virus named SARS-CoV-2 is haunting us. This alone turns the talk of dangerous viral mutations into irresponsible fearmongering and the so-called SARS-CoV-2 PCR tests definitely into a worthless venture.”
There is a lack of proof that SARS-CoV-2 has been isolated which the above article outlines.

Posted by: ADKC | Feb 1 2021 18:14 utc | 159

Arch Bungle 172
Every Nepalese and his dog believed
with good reason it’s a CIA/RAW joint op.
From the horse mouth…
https://monthlyreview.org/commentary/the-letter-of-dr-baburam-bhattarai-on-the-palace-massacre-in-nepal/
[insider info, surpirse surprise, the Nepalese Maoist were harbored and trained in….India]
https://original.antiwar.com/justin/2001/06/11/chaos-in-katmandu/
https://monthlyreview.org/commentary/comparisons-between-recent-u-s-backed-coups/
There’r more.
Out for now.

Posted by: denk | Feb 1 2021 18:20 utc | 160

Posted by: juliania | Feb 1 2021 17:58 utc | 171
Allow me to help:
My Advice to an Aspiring Economist: Don’t Be an Economist

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 1 2021 18:21 utc | 161

@ 171 juliania…. that link reminds me of the one that uncle tungsten left for me to read @64 which you can read here..
Against”>https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2019/12/05/against-economics/”>Against Economics by David Graeber
from the article “There is a growing feeling, among those who have the responsibility of managing large economies, that the discipline of economics is no longer fit for purpose. It is beginning to look like a science designed to solve problems that no longer exist.”

Posted by: james | Feb 1 2021 18:24 utc | 162

screwed up the link.. here it is..
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2019/12/05/against-economics/

Posted by: james | Feb 1 2021 18:25 utc | 163

@ Nathan Mulcahy
Ivermectin is being used very widely in India. Appearances are that the pandemic is ending. This even as not all will accept the poor mans medicine and would prefer remdesivir and nonsense. Other countries and many practitioners are using ivermectin with uniform success.
Does anyone remember retransmission rates and R-zero? If R is knocked back below 1.00 the contagion simply dies off. As R has not sustained above 1.4 anywhere for any period of time we do not need to get everyone to behave rationally. Just get 30 or 40% of the population (and doctors) to behave rationally and we are done.
As has been mentioned here before simply taking Vitamin D as a prophylactic is effective and D is also effective as treatment. There is no reason not to use D on a whole population basis. Those with sarcoid disorders (granulomas and sarcomas) should not but given how extreme granulomas are at producing excess D mistaken supplementation matters little. Only a few rare kidney diseases contraindicate D. Those patients are already monitored for D levels. There is just no reason at all not to use D.
Of course much else can be done. Take some zinc together with the D. Take vitamin C. Bromhexine seems very promising. So is colchicine. There are others.
Doctrine in US and most of developed world remains there is nothing we can do. We are required to be passive. We are required to be docile and submit. Most who are hospitalized get no treatment, just supportive care. This is pure madness.
The required passivity seems political rather than medical. Be assured that your masters have noted how submissive we are.

Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 1 2021 18:42 utc | 164

Macron/ref capitalism
the current experiments in the EU of hard lockdowns are a good way to know exactly how much they’ll need to pay the despicables for their food and stay at home with beers and TV while their jobs are being done by machines programmed by the filtered, happy, non-despicables

Posted by: Mina | Feb 1 2021 18:53 utc | 165

Posted by: vk | Jan 31 2021 15:25 utc | 7
Well, I really do not understand VK’s position at all. Hudson did not say any of this:
“Not only feudalism didn’t have a financial system (the bankers that did exist during the Middle Ages were capitalist enterprises), but the opposite happened: it was the rise of the financial system that brought feudalism down, not industry.”
He did not say that feudalism had a “financial” system in the current sense. He is drawing parallels between the practice of “feudalism” and the practical trend in the FIRE sector today.
The latter bit is also incorrect. It was the urban industrialists, in Britain at least, that brought down the last of the “feudalists”, the landlords in the 19th century. “Financial” capitalism largely arose in strength first to finance the wars of kings, though Kings could often refuse to repay debts, but especially in the latter part of the 19th century, so that industrialists could better financally organize their large, complicated and growing industrial capitalist concerns. Of course, Rockefeller was in on both ends, but this was when financial capitalism really took off, and it hasn’t looked back.
This is another aburdity in VK’s arguement that capitaalism is simply monolithic and cannot be broken down into different forms, like industrial and financial. Even Lenin understood this.
As for “Feudalism, by the way, is a fantasy term: it was never used during the Middle Ages”, that is a non arguement. The Eastern Roman Empire was never referred to as the Byzantine empire by contemporaries either. These are terms coined by historians to help define certain periods and cultural/social practices in the past.
Referring to Hudson as merely a “veteren academic” given his history in business and banking is rather a display of ingnorance. Apparently, VK is the sort of Marxist that cannot advance beyond his 170 year old bible. The scientific approach to understanding the world does not work that way. Ideas are constantly refined and adapted to account for new circumstances/data.

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Feb 1 2021 19:02 utc | 166

The so-called “Deep State” is nothing more than it has always been. Mega-business exerting its influence over domestic and foreign policy by “owning” politicians.
Their ultimate goal being the neutering of Government, so only oligarchs decide the direction of society. Government, if it’s truly by and for the people, is the only force capable of controlling the force of big organized money.
As of today, “we the people” are losing that struggle.

Posted by: vetinLA | Feb 1 2021 19:04 utc | 167

@ old hippie
Yes, it is not only madness, as you say, it is criminal….. starting with the use of a test method (PCR) that is not relevant, not standardized, not validated… then not even reporting the Ct-value…. giving people a vaccine based on a completely new technology, and having no long term safety data …. giving it to millions of people while the clinical study is still ongoing (to be completed in 2023). Nothing makes sense!
Recently I educated my primary physician about the use of Ivermectin both as a prophylaxis and treatment. He was thankful about it.
FLCCC website is a great starting point. Facebook has put them in FBJail for posting about Ivermectin.
https://covid19criticalcare.com

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Feb 1 2021 19:11 utc | 168

Jackrabbit | Feb 1 2021 18:13 utc | 174
Stakeholders = Suckers.
The “World”-wide derivatives market, the black hole of finance, is estimated to be worth some $700 trillion, plus or minus $100 trillion up or down, or in any other direction you can think of. Actually this is a gambling shop where slicing and dicing of derivatives and intangible “assets” happens, as in a mad cookery class. It is where the missing billions are hidden. (untaxable). It has also been estimated that unfortunately, all the assets of the world cannot cover the derivatives now created. Someone must lose. But to continue, it needs continually to be fed. (One more reason for the interest in Russia. Not the people of course).
What has that got to do with the “reset”? One facet mentioned by Schwab is that “stakeholders” would have all their assets …errr “donated” to the common cause and would then be supplied with debt/ virtual “flouze” (cash or near equivalent ) in lieu. After which “they will be happy”.
The assets would become more to divvy up in the derivatives casino, AND the debts would become eternal. Your children and their children and their childrens’ children… would inherit debts (via the system giving them free “flouze”), With no means to “pay them off”. ie. According to Schwab, all the future “work related” assets created by the plebs would be monetised for the pleasure of the major participants forever.
Maybe these two companies know something about it?
http://themostimportantnews.com/these-are-the-shadowy-new-york-financial-institutions-that-forced-robinhood-to-restrict-trading-in-certain-stocks/

Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 1 2021 19:39 utc | 169

@Nathan Mulcahy, 169
Swiss Policy Research is also a good site. One of the latest posts
https://swprs.org/why-ivermectin-works-and-where-to-buy-it/
@oldhippie, 165

Most who are hospitalized get no treatment, just supportive care. This is pure madness.

It’s not madness. It’s therapeutic nihilism and a breach of the Hippocratic oath.

Posted by: cirsium | Feb 1 2021 19:45 utc | 170

@ Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Feb 1 2021 19:02 utc | 167

The latter bit is also incorrect. It was the urban industrialists, in Britain at least, that brought down the last of the “feudalists”, the landlords in the 19th century. “Financial” capitalism largely arose in strength first to finance the wars of kings, though Kings could often refuse to repay debts, but especially in the latter part of the 19th century, so that industrialists could better financally organize their large, complicated and growing industrial capitalist concerns. Of course, Rockefeller was in on both ends, but this was when financial capitalism really took off, and it hasn’t looked back.

Not only is this paragraph completely wrong, but the polar opposite is truth.
The feudal nobility could refuse to pay back their debts. But that trick would only work once. After that, they were progressively having to lease their land to the capitalists. Marx mentions those long contracts in the UK – many of them with the duration of 99 years – as one of the main factors for the extinction of feudalism (albeit not the sole one).
The capitalist reforms in the UK are believed to have been extremely slow and gradual. They roughly extended from Henry VIII to at least Edward (Elizabeth’s successor). That means it lasted some 100 years. They were also accidental: it never crossed Elizabeth I’s mind that she was eroding the material bases over which her power rested. In her mind, she was strengthening the Monarchy.
But all this debate is fruitless, because what really turned capitalism into the dominant system it is today wasn’t the capitalist initiatives in European soil (Dutch and Venetian bankers, British manufacturers), but a new invention of Modernity: the overseas colonies. Actually existing capitalism was born out of the colonial system and its correspondent slavery, not European administrative reforms. It was the tension between slave labor and serf labor that resulted in a breakup between the planters in America and the feudal lords (i.e. kings and queens and the Church) in Europe.

Posted by: vk | Feb 1 2021 19:46 utc | 171

@ cirsium | Feb 1 2021 19:45 utc | 170
I am familiar with the SPR website but hadn’t seen the latest post. Thanks!
Ivermectin is covered by my insurance BUT I paid $41 for the first 15 (3mg each) tablets. This 40-year old generic drug should cost cents! That’s how outrageously criminal our for profit sick care system is!

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Feb 1 2021 20:04 utc | 172

cirsium @ 170
Expanding on that thought a little. In my circle I know exactly two persons, husband and wife, who have been hospitalized for covid. This was back in June. When they were admitted the NIH guidance was no steroids. So my friends received no steroids. Of course they were in hospital because they could not breathe. Steroids would be absolutely standard care in that situation. NIH said no. Exactly the same as telling an asthmatic he may not have an inhaler.
When NIH changed guidelines and accepted use of steroids my friends had treatment within minutes. And went from believing they would die to recovering. Their doctors wanted to treat them but Big Brother was watching. They had treatment before all the i’s were dotted and all the t’s crossed, before departmental memos were circulated. And their doctors were in terror that they could lose their jobs for responding too quickly to the new guidance.
This is nothing to do with practice of medicine. From many perspectives it would appear someone wanted to run up the box score on covid deaths.
Want to add that both my friends had massive pre-existing conditions. They were as high risk as it gets. Prophylaxis was indicated. Their doctors told them there was no such thing. Which was wrong. That guidance remains same.

Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 1 2021 20:14 utc | 173

!! @ 159 Thanks !!

Posted by: spudski | Feb 1 2021 20:25 utc | 174

I sold my sheep last year, but before that I was a shepherd for many years. I tended not to treat my sheep for parasites, searching for herd (or flock) immunity, but occasionally I would treat a good ewe suffering from worms. I found Ivermectin did the best job of causing the sheep to shed their parasites. I saved a bottle just in case it might come in handy in the future and now, from what I’m reading here, it might be effective for treating Covid in humans. However, it says on the bottle “for animal use only.” The website for the manufacturer is more specific. https://www.durvet.com/product/ivermectin-sheep-drench/

Posted by: Chas | Feb 1 2021 20:44 utc | 175

michael hudson’s first chapter (my god what a book this will be!) is breathtaking in its scope. within the first chapter, in astonishingly brief paragraphs he presents our world, past & perfect, & most particularly the time within which we live with biblical diamond clarity. our choice is no longer confused or complex but stunning & sharp, we can continue to be confused, bedazzled, misled by our oligarch’s msm propaganda or we can choose to open our aperture & realize MH has nailed our world. the choice is staggeringly simple: we can enjoy a world of vast untold wealth, love & humanity for the betterment of al,l or we can blindly submit & serve the warlords/oligarchs/bankers. regrettably a few barflies are lost, caught in the beguiling reflection of rhetoric.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Feb 1 2021 20:55 utc | 176

“…from Henry VIII to at least Edward (Elizabeth’s successor)…”
Elizabeth I was succeeded by James I. All the rest of that farrago just as erroneous.

Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 1 2021 20:55 utc | 177

cirsium
It’s not madness. It’s therapeutic nihilism and a breach of the Hippocratic oath
Nicely stated.
Stay sane.

Posted by: john | Feb 1 2021 21:09 utc | 178

That was hilarious. Thanks, John (178)

Posted by: cirsium | Feb 1 2021 21:37 utc | 179

Corroborates with my opinion:
Top Chinese Academic Predicts America Will Face British Empire-Style Decline

“Great empires experience three stages: prosperity, stagnation, and decline. The decline of the United States does not shock or surprise me. The question is in how it will take place. For many years, the United Kingdom was the most powerful nation in the world; its decline was long and lasted for several decades. The Soviet Union shattered like a glass that fell on the floor. I believe the decline of the United States is more likely to follow the British scenario,” the academic said.

Although, his metaphor doesn’t exactly match his conclusion, as we can see when he develops his idea:

“The presidential elections, the storming of the Capitol, and above all the reaction to the latter event have accelerated this trend. Trump’s Twitter account was even blocked. This means that other opinions are not tolerated in America,” he said. “In China, more and more people believe that America is moving toward a political system in which each successive president might put his predecessor in jail,” the scholar added.

Of course that, being the direct successor of the British Empire, it is more sensible to predict the fall of the American Empire will look more like the British case than anything else. Both are capitalist empires, after all.
However, his example reminds us more the Roman Empire’s case than the British Empire; the British had one institution that further decentralized an already decentralized economic system, which is the Crown. This prevented the British high bureaucracy from eating itself to collapse. The USA has a much more centralized institution that feeds power struggle at the top – the White House – which resembles much more the Imperial Office of the ancient Roman Empire when talking about collapse patterns.
Furthermore, we shouldn’t hope the USA to follow the British case, as the British Empire went out with a bang – the two World Wars, both of which it was the main cause. My opinion is nukes will (hopefully) stop the American Empire from following the British example, but it is plausible humanity really is going to be extinct by a nuclear fallout caused by the Americans.
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@ Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 1 2021 20:55 utc | 177
Oops. I mixed the names. What we nowadays call the capitalist reforms of England went until at least the two Charleses (I and II), not Edward (predecessors to Henry VIII). I never gave much effort in memorizing names and dates of the British kings and queens – mostly because they’re irrelevant in the great scheme of things.
The rest of my analysis is correct, though.
Indeed, the historical fact that feudalism “sleepwalked” to capitalism was noted by one of the famous bolshevik thinkers – Yevgeny Preobrazhensky – who, in his “New Economy”, stated that the great difficulty of the communist revolution would be to do the economic revolution after the political revolution, when capitalism had experienced the easy route of already being a fact of life when the feudal aristocracy realized they were losing political power.
And it’s true. In fact, all the systems up to capitalism arose through very long and gradual reforms, implemented without the dominant classes’ consciousness they were hanging themselves. The October Revolution was the first one that was scientific in its nature, i.e. according to a plan drawn out of a scientific theory (Marxism).
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Good news for the German people, even if by accident:
As EU falls behind on supplies of Covid-19 vaccines, German health minister entertains possibility of using Russia’s Sputnik V
I watched an interview with Venezuela’s president Nicolás Maduro, and he told the interviewer Venezuela was going to use mainly the Sputnik V. It was already tested and not only showed an 100% efficacy, but without any collateral effects (so far, he stressed).
The Germans are dodging a bullet here.

Posted by: vk | Feb 1 2021 22:08 utc | 180

emersonreturn @176–
Thanks for enlightening yourself! Feels good doesn’t it despite knowing how ugly it really is. I just finished binge watching the last four Keisier Reports, which is like getting slapped with reality over and again. Let the naysayers blow their noses onto their keyboards in producing ad hominem; let them drown in their ignorance. I began with just the first halves of the 1/23 & 1/26 programs, then completely watched the 1/28 & 1/30 shows. I love Max’s new term for the US economy: “The Global Gulag Casino.” Watch to find out why. Max says the unsayable: US Capitalism is now dead, killed by the massive corruption and fraud by both the Federal Government, The Federal Reserve, and Wall Street–all thanks to the Neoliberal Parasites that were brought in during Reagan’s “Voodoo Economics” of Trickle Down, which has now become Vacuum Up, all capped by Alan Greenspan and his worshipers. There’s a very high volume of information, so pause and replay if you become befuddled.
And in case you missed it, I’ve been pointing people to this 1970 Hudson essay that was published prior to Nixon decoupling the dollar from gold which started us on the road that’s led us to the abyss we face because there’s no bridge taking us away from the pickle Nixon unleashed. It was written prior to the total capture of the financial system by the Neoliberal Parasites and their Junk Economics, the later of which he attacks and attacks. “Economics” isn’t a “science” whatsoever and has no business being awarded anything! And it’s that major point that most are missing.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 1 2021 22:46 utc | 181

Yan Xuetong is quoted as saying “The presidential elections, the storming of the Capitol, and above all the reaction to the latter event have accelerated this trend. Trump’s Twitter account was even blocked. This means that other opinions are not tolerated in America…In China, more and more people believe that America is moving toward a political system in which each successive president might put his predecessor in jail…”
It appears Yan is an imitation/initiate/acolyte of political science as practiced in the Anglophone universities, which is to say, a professional committed to the proposition that a scientific materialist study of society is not even desirable, much less achievable. The idea that tolerating an attempted autogolpe is not a problem but blocking a mere twitter account is, is however shockingly stupid even by bourgeois standards. Trump’s “opinions” were *not* blocked. He could have gotten press coverage for any speech he wanted. Letting Trump get away with having his flunkies undermine basic security at the Capitol, deliberately blocking early relief by the National Guard, this kind of criminal conspiracy to overthrow the state via an encouraged emergency that supposedly justifies the Insurrection Act and military intervention, to be followed by a rerun of such portions of the election as deemed necessary to undo majority rule…that really is a significant problem.
And it’s hard to know what is dumber? Believing that the US is moving toward a system where the successor president puts the predecessor into jail, when it is already painfully clear that no effective action is desired even by the targets? Or thinking that this kind of political chaos is in any sensible way comparable to either the decline of the British Empire (as correctly stated, ground down by two world wars,) or the capitalist counterrevolution in the USSR? At this point, anyone who seriously compares the USSR to an “empire” is either a fool or a shameless liar. But then, the implicit claim that China hasn’t been using a system where the predecessors are put into jail ever since the so-called Gang of Four was jailed, up until Bo Xilai was put into jail, is every bit as shameless as mad dog anti-Communist propaganda about Soviet empire.
The current leadership seems altogether too apt to believe that the moon really is bigger and brighter in the “West.”

Posted by: steven t johnson | Feb 1 2021 22:55 utc | 182

“What we now call the capitalist reforms of England…”
I wonder who “we” is. Never heard of any group of English laws considered as “capitalist reforms”.
And you still have monarchs in impossible order. Just ridiculous. What’s a hundred years one way or the other? It would not be about memorizing what English schoolboys recite while still in short pants. It would be about having a clue what happened in the Reformation, in the Revolution, in the Restoration. Or having a clue about Merchant Adventurers or the East India Company or the conquest of India. Or about when land reform began and when it didn’t.
Marx does write rather a lot about the early modern era in England. His glosses on particular events are not agreed by other historians, he simply never makes outright errors. I do wonder if you have ever read him.

Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 1 2021 23:01 utc | 183

@ Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 1 2021 23:01 utc | 183
“Capitalist reforms” is just a fantasy term I’m using here for economy of words (the same as “black hole” instead of “gravitationally collapsed object”). As I said before, no monarch thought they were building capitalism in 16th-17th centuries England. We know – with the benefit of hindsight – that a series of administrative reforms initiated by Henry VIII up until at least Charles II, coupled with the development of the contradictions of feudalism in Western Europe (including the newly founded Spanish and Portuguese Empires), led to the foundation of what we consider today to be modern capitalism.
Of course, every date historians choose are ultimately arbitrary. But the point here is that capitalism was incubated inside feudalism, slowly, and that feudalism didn’t create the financial system (as Hudson claims). It is wrong to state financial capital is a remnant of feudalism.

Posted by: vk | Feb 1 2021 23:22 utc | 184

karlof1@181. indeed i watch max 3times a week, over morning coffee or tea. once in a while i speed through, rarely, as usually his guests are so varied i learn something, or a lot. the last months his guests have been so sharp the segments have had to spill over to the next segment.
thank you, i did read your link to the 1970 article & found it as you said it would be prescient & timely. as with all masters & masterworks…they do not fade in time but become ever more relevant, & the truths within shine ever brighter. we are fortunate to have his insightful grasp of the world machinations at this time. it seems putin, along with xi, have read & heeded michael hudson’s words. my husband when listening to putin’s presentation at davos, observed, ‘it’s as if he’s been reading michael hudson.’
as i’ve mentioned before, i read your comments & connect to all your links, generally however i hesitate to clutter the thread with my gratitude, that said, please know your work on our behalf is very much appreciated & contributes greatly to our overall knowledge & betterment. it is in truth why we barflies gather, to glean some truth from the ever fast moving events as our polar axis shift. thank you.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Feb 1 2021 23:23 utc | 185

vk:”What we now call the capitalist reforms of England…”
I wonder who “we” is. Never heard of any group of English laws considered as “capitalist reforms”.
Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 1 2021 23:01 utc | 183


Considering the Birth of Capitalism can with some justification be said to have occurred in tangent with, or even as a result of, the death removal and installation of various British Kings and Queens anyone that fails so miserably to keep track of a couple of said Kings and the odd Queen can hardly be relied upon to provide a cogent or coherent account of the Birth of Capitalism.
Global capitalism can certainly be said to have begun earnest with the expansion of Britain global imperialism. Prior to that, land ownership was most usually the deciding factor in who had the power to decide who held the throne.
Imperial expansion on a global scale only became possible once shipping technology had advanced enough to make sailing to the other side of the globe a viable proposition. This neccessitated a system of banking and finance which would be flexible and scalable enough to underwrite the various foreign endeavours needed to build a trading empire.
As luck would have it this occurred when Henry VIII felt the need to break with Rome, due to his desire to produce a male heir. Which is why modern capitalism can be said to have been birthed in Britian and its near neighbour the Netherlands which, not incidentally, was also embracing Protestantism at that time

Posted by: Triden | Feb 1 2021 23:44 utc | 186

“Capitalist reforms” is just a fantasy term
Posted by: vk | Feb 1 2021 23:22 utc | 184


Yes, we’re all very well aware of, and quite familiar with, your penchant for not only using fantasy terms but fantasy ideas when you run out of bullshit to bamboozle us with, you massive windbag

Posted by: Triden | Feb 1 2021 23:48 utc | 187

The invention of the printing press, and subsequent printing of Bibles in languages other than Latin, probably did more to spur the rise of Capitalism than any other single historical event.

Posted by: Triden | Feb 1 2021 23:57 utc | 188

emersonreturn @185–
Thanks for your very generous and insightful reply! I see that Matthew Ehret was awakened by the Putin and Xi speeches at Davos and has written one of his best articles where IMO it’s important to accept his premise that “Malthusian materialists” populate the ranks of the “Hobbesian unipolarists,” although he doesn’t specifically lump them together.
And it’s not just those two speeches as you’ll discover; it’s the teamwork and shared goals pursued by Russia and China that has them being smeared by the Outlaw US Empire. Why? Well, you just watched Max Keiser tell you why. It’s quite interesting that the EU at this very late hour is trying to insulate itself against the US-centered crisis, yet persists with its Navalny support and idiocy on Nord Stream-2.
The Seldon Crisis that now confronts and confounds the Outlaw US Empire stems from its hubris and greed, and the overconfidence they provided to the losing of Russia when it was altogether possible to bring in into the Empire’s fold, and to the hollowing out of its own industrial economy and shipping it to China for the sake of A Few Dollars More. As Xi and Putin showed quite well at Davos, they won’t be conned by any type of Reset Ehret details. Rather as Max and Stacey have been exploring for over a month, the Reset will impact the Outlaw US Empire, its dollar and its grossly unregulated markets. That Reset will occur, it’s only a matter of when.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 1 2021 23:59 utc | 189

@ Posted by: Triden | Feb 1 2021 23:44 utc | 186
You’re lost in the time frame: we were talking about “proto-capitalist” England (16th to first half of 17th Century), not the British Empire per se, which was unequivocally capitalist and arose later (usually the Glorious Revolution, 1688, is used as its birth).

Posted by: vk | Feb 2 2021 0:08 utc | 190

Oh I’m not lost at all, kiddo.

Posted by: Triden | Feb 2 2021 0:12 utc | 191

Re: Henry VIII, Monopolies such as the Muscovy Company, East India Company and the Turkey/Levant Company, were all formed within approx 50 years of his death, and traceable to ideas and policies enacted by him, particularly to satisfy the need to create the financial infrastructure necessary to underwrite a modern shipping construction industry

Posted by: Triden | Feb 2 2021 0:21 utc | 192

re: Sputnik V, developed by Gamaleya Institute, Moscow
Here is an article on the Russian vaccine
https://outline.com/XMxWcp
this link takes you past the paywall at New Yorker

Posted by: downtownhaiku | Feb 2 2021 0:26 utc | 193

And here we have today’s Alastair Crooke:
“In America, the belief however, is that the ‘motor’ to its ‘real’ economy has died (its demise, exacerbated, but not caused, by Covid). It has been succeeded by shards of newly imagined financialised and tech resets, scattered throughout élite clusters.
“The change has been shocking in its scope, and in the stealth by which it has crept upon us: Asset markets have been severed from any connection to economic returns; valuations in the billions no longer require to be underpinned by any profit at all. Price discovery via market interaction no longer exists. Markets are not free, but Treasury managed; enterprise capitalism is morphed into monopolistic oligarchism; innovation and small businesses have been crushed; inequality is rampant; money printing and debt are no longer limited by any prudent considerations, but rather as an exciting MMT ‘opportunity’ ahead; and interest rates no longer act as the mechanism by which capital is directed to its most effective and productive use. It is a complete paradigm change.” [My Emphasis]
As Max said, genuine Capitalism within the Outlaw US Empire is now dead. Crooke continues:
The point here is that this dynamic has become hegemonic – there is no escape. However sceptical one may be about its illusory foundations, any attempt by the Authorities to restrain it is likely to make it crash. Global central banks will not – cannot – countenance a market crash. No, they must take this newly imagined MMT ‘reality’ to its furthest limit, and bear the consequences, which may be ill-starred. The madness will continue. We are in a new world in which we are obliged to act as though we are somehow ‘rational amidst the irrational’, until the fever subsides.” [My Emphasis]
Or until the “fever” gets Reset. And ominously, here’s Crooks again:
“But what if U.S. politics (and not just economics) is entering into a similar hegemonic dynamic, a framework which, however irrational some may judge it to be, simply cannot be escaped – trapping Americans into its institutional structures as tightly as the economy now is trapped by its’ financialist cage?”
Too bad it’s so huge that all the players can’t simply be rounded up, placed into padded cells and sentenced to Life. One might say Crooke’s become a Hudson or Keiser enthusiast, although one only needed to be open-eyed and unbiased with a strong moral grounding. Crooke again:
“When Ray Dalio, the well-known Davos devotee, and CIO of Bridgewater, the world’s biggest investment fund, in recent days suggested that, “We [America] are on the brink of a terrible civil war”, ZeroHedge (a leading U.S. financial web-site), reminded Dalio that more than a decade ago, it had warned, even then, that the Fed’s unconstrained monetary lunacy (Quantitative Easing) would eventually result in civil war – a prediction for which ZeroHedge was much mocked at the time.
“Yet it was prescient. The kick-the-can, debt-led response to the 2008 financial crisis of rolling-over ever larger mountains of debt (‘printing’ more money/debt) at zero interest rates, has been responsible for a massive transfer of purchasing power from the 60% to the 1%; responsible for gaping wealth inequalities; for the concentration of the economic means (and political power) in the hands of the oligarchy – in tandem with the incrementally growing stultification of the ‘deplorable’ sector of the economy. In ZeroHedge’s words of that time, this sector of the American public was being ‘thrown under the bus by the Federal Reserve’.
“In short, the rise of the Deplorable constituency – associated with Trumpism – is not the cause of today’s crisis, but its symptom. ZeroHedge challenges Dalio to admit this truth.”
But to be completely honest, the Outlaw US Empire has always been very unbalanced socio-economically going back to its inception. The stats show the great decoupling that led to today’s craziness began when Nixon said the USA will no longer operate its economy on sound money, which opened the doors for the Neoliberal Parasites to invade and take over since no actual study of economics was happening–they just said it was and employed Enron Accounting decades earlier than realized. Then there’s the cultural side of the exploding myth that Crooke goes on to investigate:
“Then to the other part to the American myth, which is cultural and political: And precisely here is where another seemingly small strategic decision has triggered a quite separate political dynamic – one that also threatens to become a hegemonic spider’s web from which escape is near impossible.
“Just as the financial world’s interests and fortunes are tied to not kicking over the hornets’ nest of a catastrophic monetary policy (because it is anyway too late to reverse it), so too, politico-demographic fortunes are tied to not allowing kicking at the hornets’ nest of an identity and gender politics – one committed to the notion of equity, rather than equality in society.”
The problem was recognized by Billie Holiday in 1939 which she immortalized in God Bless The Child, although we should probably thank her mother for holding the values that generated the friction that led to the lyrics and the song. But its certain her mother was merely repeating the wisdom of The Ever Fonkey Lowdown’s Mister Game.
I can only hope The Outlaw US Empire will peacefully take its medicine; and once it recovers, is willing to rejoin humanity as an equal, not as anything exceptional.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 2 2021 0:49 utc | 194

@Nathan Mulcahy
I’ve been wanting say thank you for the information you’ve given us over the weeks and months – I don’t remember if I got around to that. Please keep it all coming. Sometimes the correct information truly can be a matter of life or death.

Posted by: Grieved | Feb 2 2021 1:02 utc | 195

karlof1@189. i just finished the ehret on SC & agree it’s one of his best. unfortunately, fort russ has essentially become the ehret site, which is a shame imo. i appreciate he’s very productive & covers some interesting historical tangles, otherwise overlooked, disregarded or forgotten & that in itself is valuable. i too eagerly await how putin will deal with navalny. it is mind bogglingly stupid that nuland believes a coup can be staged in russia or that putin may be usurped. as crooke has mentioned more than once, the world has forever changed since obomber’s rule. ‘smoothie’ some weeks past posted a video of pence attempting to stare down putin @ their first meeting. hilarious…but it made it absolutely clear, the west has no idea of putin’s strength, spirit, intellect, intent or power. currently i am following myanmar, as well as america’s renewed interest in syia. the current cast: nasrahalla, assad, iran, imran khan, putin & xi set across from ‘hologram’ biden, mini me macron, bojo, morrison, modi…merkel (although with nord2 she may be beginning to see a way through or feigning to duplicate erdogan’s duplicity, plus the germans are stalling on lavrov’s repeated request for medical records). we are fortunate to live in such fascinating times.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Feb 2 2021 1:15 utc | 196

Will only hemorrhage the imperial coffers even more than it already is:
Blinken promised Ukraine active economic and military assistance
Ukraine is already costing the IMF some USD 10-16 billion per month. Don’t make it your second Vietnam.

Posted by: vk | Feb 2 2021 1:16 utc | 197

It’s an interesting article that b links to regarding Dr. Fauci:
Doctor Do-Little​ | The Case Against Anthony Fauci
It sounds hard hitting but it’s very soft-shoe. The author has a hard time breaking down the myth of the Fauci to explain exactly why he has essentially failed to treat the epidemic, and yet also retain his myth of goodness.
Others are less reverent. I haven’t researched currently but I have two old bookmarks that may show some of the other side of Fauci:
The Remarkable Doctor A. Fauci – By F. William Engdahl
Corruption in The Medical Field: US Doctors Threatened Over Hydroxychlorquine Use. Dr. Fauci is Blocking HCQ – By Prof Michel Chossudovsky
He’s on video admitting his lies about masks and herd immunity, as Jimmy Dore made some hay with. And his past record suggests that he may be totally compromised in his ties to pharma. He failed to deal with AIDS but he worked hard to increase his department budget, and an associate made money from a patent. He also seems to have a friendship with Gilead, the noble crusader now making bank from Remdesevir. Details are in the articles.
I’ve thought for a year now that the worst thing to befall the US could be a true emergency requiring uncompromised people to deal with it. It’s like having a fire and asking the mafia to join the volunteer firefighters – take people who only know how to start fires and ask them to help stop one. Fauci.
I thought we knew all this about Fauci, but the comments here about him have been largely non-committal, so I thought I’d offer the other side.

Posted by: Grieved | Feb 2 2021 1:28 utc | 198

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 2 2021 0:49 utc | 193
Thanks for the Crooke. I would not say it was either sudden or unpredicted, I’ve been seeing it predicted since the 70s: “voodoo capitalism”. That when I started waiting for this denoument, and I think I had lots of company.
But I suppose he means the dwellers in the bubble.
It all started with the capture of independent media, the move to the internet made it worse by way of the giant “platforms”.
But he makes the point, it’s going to be tricky to find a non-violent way out of this, the fruits of decades of politics of division. Wokeness and a witch hunt for the deplorables would light that fuse I think.
It is interesting to speculate about a religious component to any domestic strife, a very dangerous place to go.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 2 2021 1:45 utc | 199