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January 17, 2021

The MoA Week In Review - OT 2021-005

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:

ANATꙮLY KARLIN @akarlin88 - 16:39 UTC · Jan 16, 2021
A Russian meets up with an American.
"We have freedom of speech," the Russian says. "I can post that Russian elections are falsified on social media."
"What's the big deal?" asks the American. "I too can write that Russian elections are falsified on social media."

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Other issues:

Covid-19:

Eric Feigl-Ding @DrEricDing - 1:13 UTC · 17 Jan 2021
Psssst... pass it on: ➡️ COVID LUNG is worse than smoker’s lung.
"Post-COVID lungs look worse than any type of terrible smoker's lung we've ever seen. And they collapse. And they clot off. And the shortness of breath lingers” says Dr @BKendallMD. #COVID19
> I decry the stubborn resistance of most governments and people to acknowledge and to learn from China’s success. For most, their resistance is led by ignorance. China’s successes are not widely known and rarely covered by the US and international media. For others who are more well informed, it is willful disregard of an important public health achievement that we should all be learning from. <

Germany:

The governing conservative party (CDU) elected Armin Laschet as its new leader. He defeated two staunch Atlanticists.

John Kerry @JohnKerry - Aug 20, 2014
ISIL must be destroyed/will be crushed.

Armin Laschet @ArminLaschet - 19:55 UTC · Aug 20, 2014
Replying to @JohnKerry
@JohnKerry: Yes, Mr Kerry. But You supported ISIS and Al Nusra against President Assad in Syria. And they are financed by Qatar and Saudi-Arabia.

Brexit:

Haggis_UK 🇬🇧🇪🇺 @Haggis_UK - 12:07 UTC · Jan 14, 2021
Jacob Rees-Mogg - "The key is we've got our fish back. They are now British fish, & they're better & happier fish for it." 😬
Mr Speaker - Obviously there's overwhelming evidence for that. - vid

Intercept:

> Now, Jeremy Scahill, a former Nation writer who is close to the Intercept’s editor in chief, Betsy Reed, is the only member of the founding team remaining at the organization. <
> The most logical conclusion to draw is that Poitras, under pressure from the pro-Democratic Party and left-feminist circles in which she travels, has accommodated herself to the anti-WikiLeaks campaign. Again, what is especially significant is the coming together of the gender politics zealots, on the one hand, and the proponents of American imperialist intervention across the globe in the name of “democratic rights,” on the other. <

Use as open thread ...

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Re: vk | Jan 18 2021 12:58 utc | 89

Moderna and Pfizer mRNA products UNDER US Law, are mislabeled; they do not fit the legal definition for being vaccines.

They are *experimental synthetic gene therapy/chemotherapy agents*, according to this MD/JD person:

https://www.bitchuteDOTcom/video/AuvhMTMoby41/

( Replace "DOT" with "." in link)

And Pfizer is being sued for using the patented fluorescent 'reporter gene' *mNeonGreen* in their mRNA drug process w/o being licenced.

Posted by: gm | Jan 18 2021 16:46 utc | 101

latest from Helmer on Navalny

http://johnhelmer.net/navalny-s-courtroom-wager-biomedical-and-drugs-evidence-and-article-275-of-the-russian-criminal-code/

Posted by: downtownhaiku | Jan 18 2021 16:47 utc | 102

Norwegian | Jan 18 2021 16:19 utc | 98

It was just a barn, small one at that. it caught fire and the firefighters say the cause of the fire was a LP gas cylinder.

the data centers are on the same street.

happily I have a VPN that allows me to appear as a US IP so the site is available to me. A lot of sites in the US either can't or won't make their sites comply with EU privacy laws so they simply block them to EU addresses.

Posted by: dan of steele | Jan 18 2021 16:48 utc | 103

@Norwegian | Jan 18 2021 16:19 utc | 98

I just checked and that 2nd link still works for me. Search finds other, mostly local news outlets' stories on that explosion in Sterling VA., too.

Posted by: gm | Jan 18 2021 16:55 utc | 104

Three hours, that is hard work, I watched the full conference, Lavrov as usual, experienced, sharp, and on top of it, but somehow he looked a bit tired, I guess anybody would be. It does not make sense to write here about the contents of the conference, they’ll be online soon if they’re not already, but there are always little details, and one of them for me anyway was the fact that only three journalists did not pose their questions in Russian, the Argentinian did it through a translator, the Indian journalist question was in English and Lavrov’s answer was in English too, but then a British journalist who was in Khimki following the Navalny affair questioned Lavrov in English with a British accent, that is to say the old colonialist that still thinks the sun does not set on the Dominion, arrogant and assuming. The answer surprisingly was in Russian, no courtesy deserved by the Brit like the Indian journalist did. And well deserved I would say.

Posted by: Paco | Jan 18 2021 17:06 utc | 105

@dan of steele | Jan 18 2021 16:48 utc | 102

Why should a local news story of such an event be blocked under EU rules?

Posted by: gm | Jan 18 2021 17:07 utc | 106

@dan of steele | Jan 18 2021 16:48 utc | 102

A lot of sites in the US either can't or won't make their sites comply with EU privacy laws so they simply block them to EU addresses.

Why would US sites bother with this? Do they believe EU laws apply in the US?

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 18 2021 17:26 utc | 107

In Putin's Яussia, Justice come to YOU!!!

Posted by: Malchik Ralf | Jan 18 2021 17:33 utc | 109

In the article @ 109:

According to Le Monde, the hacked documents primarily detail issues that the EMA had with the Pfizer/BioNTech drug. The regulator apparently had three “major issues” with the vaccine: certain manufacturing sites used for its production had not yet been inspected, data on batches produced for commercial use were still missing, and, most importantly, available data revealed qualitative differences between the commercial batches and those used during clinical trials.

Those worries confirm my fears over those mRNA vaccines: there's an abyss that separates theory from practice, and another abyss after that that separates practice from manufacturing, in medical/biological sciences. The human body is not your average machine: it is millions of times more complex.

And those worries are purely practical. Even the theory behind the mRNA therapy/vaccine is still far from complete; the field of epigenetics is still very young, a little more than ten years old, and there's a lot to investigate.

Posted by: vk | Jan 18 2021 18:11 utc | 111

Trump the Manchurian Populist
He made a joke of foreign policy restraint (his restraint is worse than Obama's 'war') and he ruined the career of good people like McGregor. McGregor is now toxic because of Trump.
Trump's domestic policies failed. He gave us $8T of new debt.

Operation Warp speed had a warp core breach. What happened to the 300M doses we were supposed to have in Jan, we only have 30M doses, where did the reserve go?

Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Jan 18 2021 18:18 utc | 112

FBI vetting 25,000 National Guard troops to prevent insider attack

Pentagon officials are worried about a possible insider attack following the Capitol riot on Jan. 6, prompting the FBI to vet every National Guard member deployed to Washington, D.C. to secure President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration.

I don't get this. They all voted for Biden, didn't they?

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 18 2021 18:20 utc | 113

Grieved@59, thank you! I enjoyed Michael Parenti's lecture as it echoed my own educational experience. I had four years of high school Latin, two in New Zealand and two in the US, then Greek in college here, which opened my mind. (Loved the latter, uninspired by the former). For me, the stunning differences Parenti is making clear can also be found between Plato and Aristotle - the latter believes that there are natural slaves, where Plato does not as is evident in the Meno where he uses a slaveboy to demonstrate the innate intelligence of a person who is properly led to avoid easy answers and think for himself.

Wise words from Parenti:

"...What we must learn to do is learn to read history against the grain..."

This can also be a positive element to the current situation in the US where children are forming questionable attitudes towards school, since exposure to a nasty virus goes hand in hand with what passes for education now in the US. I am convinced the ones who stay home and make up for that by self-teaching projects they can enjoy are better for it, since it is more and more necessary to think for oneself, and doing so involves risk but also enjoyment.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 18 2021 19:02 utc | 114

Christian J. Chuba @Jan18 18:18 #111

Yeah, this "America First" so-called "populist" also weaponized space, doubled-down on Israel and ME idiocy, supported a coup in Venezuela (including seizing Venezuelan State assets), cut taxes (yet again), and lied about the seriousness of the virus.

Oh, and no pardon for Assange or Snowden to support whistle-blowers and independent journalism that keep the Deep State (that Trump supposedly fights) in check.

I could go on but I won't belabor the point.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 18 2021 19:10 utc | 115

My reading is about to involve now a rereading of Plato's 'Politeia'. It's been a while since I read it, and I am intrigued by the memory that it begins not in Athens, but down at the Piraeus where crowds are milling about excitedly viewing entertainments of a novel nature, and that Socrates and his companion are jestfully compelled by others from the upper class to remove themselves from the crowd in order to engage in philosophical discussion.

I suspect my return to the dialogue will provide some interesting new avenues to explore.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 18 2021 19:19 utc | 116

karlof1

Since SSNs are already used as universal identifiers, their use would simplify detection of multiple voting, either intrastate or interstate. As well as voting by dead people, and others not entitled to vote.

ps - cut CC a little slack, why don't you?

Posted by: gamma | Jan 18 2021 19:28 utc | 117

gm | Jan 18 2021 17:07 utc | 105
Why should a local news story of such an event be blocked under EU rules?

The EU Cookie Directive is an adaptation of the EU e-Privacy Directive, the legislation that forms part of Europe's endeavor to provide online privacy for its people.

Adopted in May, 2011, this Directive applies to all countries within the EU, as well as websites that are owned by EU companies, and international sites that cater to EU citizens. In other words, even if your business website or app is not located in the EU, you are subject to enforcement if any EU residents visit your site.

According to the Directive, each time someone visits a site they must be informed if cookies are being used, and they should also have the option to refuse to allow it.

a guide I found

so, rather than comply with all those things, sites that don't care about EU readership will simply block EU IP addresses.

Posted by: dan of steele | Jan 18 2021 19:45 utc | 118

Re: "Once an accident, twice a coincidence, three times a pattern"

-Norwegian | Jan 18 2021 16:19 utc | 98

"Fool me once, shame on ... shame on you. Fool me... You can't get fooled again!'" fooled again!" GWB, Sept 17, 2002.

Posted by: gm | Jan 18 2021 20:10 utc | 119

@ dan of steele | Jan 18 2021 19:45 utc | 117

Thanks for that.

So in EU countries, ISPs are required by default to block any [US only?]site addresses that try to set cookies when you visit them?

Is that what your interpretation of the guideline is?

Posted by: gm | Jan 18 2021 20:27 utc | 120

I don't get this. They all voted for Biden, didn't they?
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 18 2021 18:20 utc | 112

Maybe they should for recruit from Arlington Cemetery. They all voted for Bidet didn't they? The end can't be far off when the "Praetorian Guard" can't be trusted. All that is missing from this farce is Trump stabbed to death in the senate.

Posted by: Tom | Jan 18 2021 20:56 utc | 121

The leak about Pfizer in Le Monde shows that the argument that speeding things up was alright because they were running things in parallel is only part of the truth.
In practice compromises are made (the scaled up production does not deliver the same product which has been tested). A plausible guess is you'd need more of it to get the same effect but then you are already adding patches and hoping it will turn out right, like the PCR test which was not specced correctly and those who followed the incorrect specs(I'm guessing many labs patched the procedures) were allowed to increased the number of cycles to compensate. And then decisions were hidden, likely to avoid raising distrust in the vaccine. So there is a lot of short term decisions and then hunting the aftereffects, including the overreactions when things become public.

Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Jan 18 2021 21:02 utc | 122

Norwegian #99

:))

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 18 2021 21:23 utc | 123

@vk #86:

Navalny is on parole, which was revoked the moment he fled to Germany. He was then recalled to Russia.

Not true. His suspended sentence (not parole) was not “revoked the moment he fled to Germany”. He was given an explicit permission to be treated in Germany. The problem is that after he was released from the hospital he was supposed to return to Russia for his regular check-in with authorities which he had to keep doing until his suspended sentence ran out on December 30, 2020. On December 22, 2020, Lancet has published an article where they stated that Navalny had been released from hospital on September 20 and was completely healthy by October 12. That’s why the Moscow office of FSIN (Russia’s Federal Penitentiary Service) has publicly demanded on December 28, 2020 that Navalny immediately returns to Russia to perform his last check-in, lest his suspended sentence is replaced with a real one. Navalny’s press secretary has replied on the same day that he won’t comply with the demand. So on January 12, 2021, FSIN has started the legal procedures to replace Navalny’s suspended sentence with a real one. What this means is that Navalny has deliberately decided (or was told by his handlers) to be put in Russian jail.

FSIN suspects Navalny of violating probation rules (RBK, December 28, 2020)

FSIN demanded through court to change Navalny's suspended sentence to real (RBK, January 12, 2020)

Posted by: S | Jan 18 2021 21:24 utc | 124

gm | Jan 18 2021 20:27 utc | 120

So in EU countries, ISPs are required by default to block any [US only?]site addresses that try to set cookies when you visit them?

Is that what your interpretation of the guideline is?

I cannot say with authority but I do not believe the ISP is responsible for proper cookie use. Rather I believe the website developers are required to meet requirements such as making their content available to those with vision problems and perhaps formatting for viewing on a mobile phone. This EU directive should be known to them as well.

So, rather than inconvenience US users with clicking on cookie notices it is far easier to instruct the server to display the 521 error for any requests coming from IP addresses within the EU

Posted by: dan of steele | Jan 18 2021 21:29 utc | 125

@uncle tungsten | Jan 18 2021 21:23 utc | 123

I read that book in some time the 1970's....

Fahrenheit 451 is a dystopian novel by American writer Ray Bradbury, first published in 1953. Often regarded as one of his best works,[4] the novel presents a future American society where books are outlawed and "firemen" burn any that are found.[5] The book's tagline explains the title as "'the temperature at which book paper catches fire, and burns": the autoignition temperature of paper.

It seems to me Google, Facebook and Twitter are today's firemen. The future that Bradbury saw is here. Write something the firemen don't like and it virtually autoignites and disappears. As a bonus you become an un-person.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 18 2021 21:53 utc | 126

Christian J. Chuba #112

What happened to the 300M doses we were supposed to have in Jan, we only have 30M doses, where did the reserve go?

As the next few weeks roll on, you may consider yourself lucky that those 'reserves' were not fully available. I understand that Pfizer etc have a piece of paper expressing immunity from prosecution and liability for their imaginative vaccine but that may be worthless in a murder trial. Even more so if such a trial were to be held anywhere other than the USAi.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 18 2021 21:57 utc | 127

The FBI is guarding the guardians!

That is too good. I guess they recalled some of their recently 'retired' people to get on to it. I bet Karma Harris is feeling confident ;)

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 18 2021 22:18 utc | 128

Norwegian #126

It seems to me Google, Facebook and Twitter are today's firemen. The future that Bradbury saw is here. Write something the firemen don't like and it virtually autoignites and disappears. As a bonus you become an un-person.

Thank you, I read that in my youthful days and still often reference it. More so now than past decades.

Sometimes I think the US $1 bill is the autoigniter of our times.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 18 2021 22:22 utc | 129

? for oldhippie @69
Please provide evidence for your assertion that
"Strategic-Culture editorials are all written by Phil Giraldi."
No doubt that SC publishes Giraldi articles, as it does with many other regular contributors.
No doubt that Giraldi publishes articles in other places too, such as American Conservative.
But what makes you assert that Giraldi writes all SC editorials?

Posted by: downtownhaiku | Jan 18 2021 23:16 utc | 130

S #124

Thank you, your accuracy is a desirable trait in reporting these matters. The west has enough channels for their lying thieving pursuits and MoA should avoid being at their service.

Navalny and the west's use of him is clearly a sign of their predatory ignorance and dishonesty. I am sure they will keep up their homeside propaganda in favor of their aggressive mendacity in the world. In fact I guess Joe Biden will have little to do but ride on the coattails of a fool such as Navalny. That is about the sum total of the intellectual capacity of Xerxes Biden. Off he goes to another ignominious defeat. Imagine what it will be like after he gets sworn in!

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 18 2021 23:18 utc | 131

In China, the State works:

China's Hebei province to reexamine Covid-19 test results after lab caught out over positive cases

Health officials in the Chinese province of Hebei will review hundreds of thousands of Covid-19 tests carried out by third-party agencies after it was revealed that one laboratory allegedly hid positive cases of the disease.

[...]

The inconsistencies prompted an investigation into the laboratory, with local authorities saying on Sunday that they had found two confirmed cases and one asymptomatic infection in the batch of tests it handled. The head of the company was subsequently detained by police.

Governor Xu Qin responded to the news by ordering all recent tests conducted by third-party agencies in Hebei to be reexamined for possible errors and false results. "No one should be left out and all data [must be] be authentic," he insisted.

Posted by: vk | Jan 18 2021 23:21 utc | 132

downtownhaiku #130

Thank you for that post. Strategic Culture is a good read and one is mindful that it is a Russian source and no doubt has some affinity with the Russian Government and empathy for Russian people's point of view. That is perfectly fine. I don't see it as a craven mouthpiece (like the grauniad is to the UK) but rather an information source.

There is no secret about SC. John Helmer has this to say in a recent report:

Alexei Navalny believes he is throwing down a gauntlet for the Kremlin either to arrest him when he returns to Moscow from Berlin on Sunday, or to allow him to walk freely out of the airport. Either way, from behind bars as a political prisoner or from his Moscow film studio as an opposition candidate for regime change, Navalny and his supporters will announce they have shown strength, the President of Russia weakness. The one outcome Navalny hasn’t counted on is that Russians will be laughing at him.

This is the strategy of Vzglyad, the Moscow online newspaper which publishes sophisticated and accurate analysis of military, intelligence and security issues unmatched by the English-language media. It is almost unnoticed in the west, except for those services who believe it reflects the thinking of key figures, past and present, in the presidential administration. Because the Russian figures don’t think the way the western services or their media organs depict them, Vzglyad hasn’t drawn the attention of foreign reporters as do state media like RT, Sputnik, the Strategic Culture Foundation, and the Valdai Club.

Read this Helmer report it is the style and quality of commentary that you will NEVER see in the western press.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 18 2021 23:31 utc | 133

Matthew Ehret : For Martin Luther King Day: Let Us End His “Second Assassination"
January 18, 2021

    "The 2nd Assassination of MLK
    A new assassination is being attempted half a century after the life of Martin Luther King was cut short by a bullet on the balcony of the Loraine Motel on April 4, 1968. A story has gone viral across the international media in recent months which promises to shed light on the dark perversity of Martin Luther King Jr.


    The scandal was featured in the June 2019 edition of Standpoint magazine by internationally renowned Martin Luther King “authority” David Garrow and aimed at destroying the myth of King as a moral leader of America by showcasing the ugliness of King’s true self as a an orgy-loving abuser who had over 40 affairs and laughed as a friend raped a parishioner. Garrow states that his expose “poses so fundamental a challenge to his historical stature as to require the most complete and extensive historical review possible.”

    The fact that so many news outlets are jumping on the bandwagon should cause one to wonder why is this happening at this moment in history? Could this strange hysteria over a mediocre slander piece have anything to do with the fact that the polarized cages of left and right are finally breaking down? Could it be that the light shed upon the injustices and reality of the Deep State’s infiltration of the US government over decades may awaken something within the collective psyche of Americans which many had thought was long dead?

    The timing is especially strange since the supposed “ground breaking evidence” which the heroic Garrow is bringing to light was actually first made public in November 2017, and on closer inspection, it wouldn’t qualify by any lawyer’s standard as “evidence”......."

Posted by: Triden | Jan 18 2021 23:42 utc | 134

@vk | Jan 17 2021 14:41 utc | 5

Chinese vaccines gaining momentum overseas

Thanks for the link. I find it interesting that Turkey's Erdogan is taking a Chinese vaccine in that film -- not a US vaccine.

Posted by: Cyril | Jan 19 2021 1:21 utc | 135

@S | Jan 18 2021 21:24 utc | 124

What this means is that Navalny has deliberately decided (or was told by his handlers) to be put in Russian jail.

If you are right about this, it wouldn't be the first time that Navalny would seem to prefer a Russian jail to the company of his CIA "friends". When Boris Nemtsov was assassinated, we eventually learned that Navalny had gotten himself arrested a few days before. Perhaps he considered himself safer in Putin's hands. Maybe he is thinking the same these days.

Posted by: Cyril | Jan 19 2021 2:17 utc | 136

LOL!

Clinton, Pelosi: Was Russia/Putin involved in the riots?
https://www.foxbangor.com/national-news/clinton-suggests-putin-may-have-known-about-riot-in-capitol-pelosi-wants-9-11-commission-type-probe/

Posted by: Zanon | Jan 19 2021 8:11 utc | 137

@ Paco various places.

At comment 117 last Open Tread (004) a response was made to your comment 102 that you may not be aware. Those references build a fair picture of Russian historical conditions beginning in Napoleonic era through to recent times with greatest focus on the end of Imperial Russia, its leaders, its elite, its relations and its ultimate failures and the consequences. I decline to summarise the content of those volumes fearing the injustice inflicted from my attempt to abridge. If titles do not convey content then, as volumes are listed: Russian history of end of Imperial Russia; Prologue of Napoleonic Wars; Russian Elite peopling the Empire; Nicolas II, the person, strengths and deficiencies; Russian relations, alliances, competitors and affecting internal conditions leading to conflict. The compendium of the Soviet era continues the early story of what followed. The three volume History may be a decent reference to Russian History (at least for English readers). I trust this will flesh the bones of the earlier comment without colouring your reading of Dominic Lieven's works.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Jan 19 2021 10:44 utc | 138

Pentagon Accelerates Efforts to Root Out Far-Right Extremism in the Ranks

The nation’s military has a history of downplaying white nationalism and right-wing activism, but the siege of the Capitol has created a new urgency for dealing with them.

I mean they will try.

But, ultimately, they won't succeed. The Pentagon simply wouldn't have enough recruits if they did go all in with this purge.

I still stick with my prediction: the USA will enter a "Byzantine Era", marked by economic, geopolitical decline (more Pacific/West Coast oriented), and by a cultural shift to religious fundamentalism at least in its armed forces.

Posted by: vk | Jan 19 2021 11:47 utc | 139

AOC wants to turn the US of A
into a giant re-education camp.

AOC Proposes Funding to ‘De-Program’ What She Calls ‘White Supremacists’

https://planetfreewill.news/aoc-proposes-funding-to-de-program-what-she-calls-white-supremacists/

We all know how various words are weaponized - "conspiracy theorists, anti-semitism, white supremacists"
and how they can be applied opportunistically to silence those with a different opinion.

AOC favors mind control, folks.
You are free to believe what she does
else you are subject to re-education.

Posted by: librul | Jan 19 2021 11:58 utc | 140

Dispelling some common "misconceptions" in the West about the Chinese SOEs:

China banking regulator says state-owned enterprises subject to negative govt subsidies

China's state-owned enterprises (SOEs) in general are subject to negative subsidies from the government budget, the head of the country's banking regulator said Monday at a forum.

Guo Shuqing, Party chief of the People's Bank of China and chairman of the China Banking and Insurance Regulatory Commission, made the remarks at the 14th Asian Financial Forum.

[...]

"On average, the tax burden of SOEs is about twice the size of private enterprises. State-owned enterprises actually assume broader social responsibilities. A consequential engine powering the long-term rapid growth of private factories and foreign companies is tax concessions," Guo elaborated.

[...]

"China's banking system boasts the strongest profitability in the world. It's impossible to grant long-term subsidies to SOEs."

[...]

The strong competitiveness of Chinese production is not due to a lack of labor protection, Guo said, noting that China's Constitution and laws provide strong protection for people's interests and in the past 10 years, the income of Chinese workers has grown rapidly.

Posted by: vk | Jan 19 2021 12:14 utc | 141

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Jan 19 2021 10:44 utc | 138

Thanks a lot for the references, as you must be aware of, a few lifetime periods would not be enough to read all the works of literature and history that are worth reading. My request to VK was about a general history reference as the Hobsbawm series, which IMO cover a good general view for non specialists. I’ll check out Lieven’s work, time permitting, but my interest in Russia is primarily language wise, that realm includes them all, politics, history, literature, art, etcetera.

As it is right now I have an approximate historical view of Russia with a lot of gaps that I try to fulfill indirectly with literature, music, art, news and the informed views of most participants, or let us call them patrons of this bar, plus an eye on Russian media that allows me to stay on cue language wise. Just today Uncle Tungsten gives a reference to what must be an interesting book by some Peter Hopkirk about the Great Game. Cheers.

Posted by: Paco | Jan 19 2021 12:39 utc | 142

@ Posted by: Paco | Jan 19 2021 12:39 utc | 142

Hobsbawm is not bad. You just have to be careful with some of his subjective takes.

There is certainly not anything like Hobsbawm's "eras" series in terms of timeframe analyzed. If you want that much time period covered in so few pages, you won't find an equal.

Posted by: vk | Jan 19 2021 13:00 utc | 143

Whoever has doubts about Putin's health, here we have him celebrating orthodox Baptism Day.

Крещение

Posted by: Paco | Jan 19 2021 13:22 utc | 144

@ Paco | Jan 19 2021 12:39 utc | 142

Then the first book fills that need. The volume listed has an European version (colour/honour vs. color/honor) if that suits (my preference):

Towards the Flame, Empire, War and the End of Tsarist Russia Dominic Lieven ISBN 978-0-141-39974-4 Penguin/RandomHouse UK (PB)

The above was my first Lieven and was impressed enough to buy the rest in hard-back as keepers for the library. This version won the Pushkin House Russian Book prize. Excellent reading. Thank you for your reply.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Jan 19 2021 13:36 utc | 145

Posted by: Paco | Jan 19 2021 13:22 utc | 144

Three times. Well it looks like his heart is still working OK.

A book:

The Empire of the Steppes: A History of Central Asia

Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 19 2021 13:50 utc | 146

Delusions of a closeted traditionalist:

The Trump Ban: The Only Free Speech Zone for American Conservatives Is Russia

Telegram is a massive messenger that can replace WhatsApp and Twitter for many users. The Russian equivalent of Facebook, VK.com has been more reluctant to accept its destiny. I have approached their management personally bringing to their attention the fact that a massive Western Convservative [sic] audience is being repressed and will jump to a new platform for freedom of speech given the knowledge that such a platform exists.[...]

This is the moment Russia has been waiting for but it is unknown if those in the halls of the Kremlin even know that it is happening. The powers that be are not exactly filled with people from the media. Hopefully some of them will read this and realize just what a glorious opportunity Big Tech and the Democrats have given them. And since everything I write is banned anyways I’d be more than happy to run any attempts to absorb Western dissidents. It is not like these words are allowed to be posted on FB anyways.

Some observations:

1) it is not only the "Western Conservative audience" that's been censored. Socialist and communists audiences have been censored for decades now - and that's best case scenario: the CPUSA was infiltrated to the bone by the FBI during the Cold War;

2) that the alt-right will migrate to another social media website is a given. The problem here is that we have to take into account how much did the alt-right grow through vapor since the rise of Trump: it is estimated 75-85% of the volume the alt-right had on Twitter was bots. We don't know if the mandarins of the alt-right will consider the investment on troll factories and bot farms to be profitable or not outside Facebook and Twitter - which will still retain the neutral mass of the West - as if they found/invade another social media platform, it will be essentially an echo-chamber.

Posted by: vk | Jan 19 2021 14:00 utc | 147

Posted by: vk | Jan 19 2021 14:00 utc | 147

I'm not a fan of Bridge, but I thought he had a point, I read Russian press now BECAUSE of the failure of western media to provide anything but propaganda, paid advertising, and pablum. That is a real opening for English language media world wide right now to pick up more audience (if they want it).

The Tech Titans have a problem, if they use their control they will lose it. Nobody is compelled to use Facebook, Twitter, UTUBE, any of them.

So one can infer they were desperate to stop Trump.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 19 2021 14:16 utc | 148

Health workers refusing vaccine is new growing US problem

According to a recent Kaiser Family Foundation poll, 29 percent of those who work in a health care delivery setting said they would probably not, or definitely would not, take the vaccine, even if it were free and deemed safe by scientists.

Experts say the reasons for vaccine hesitancy among health workers are similar to concerns held by the general population, including worries about potential side effects. Some may also be taking a wait-and-see approach to find out how the vaccine affects people who take it earlier.

“I am definitely concerned that health care workers are electing to wait to get vaccinated,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases.

Those healthcare workers know their system. They're not stupid.

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@ Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 19 2021 14:16 utc | 148

Evidently, soft power has its limits and will end someday.

But there's a good distance between stating Russian soft power will increase and stating Russia will become an alt-right paradise.

It's obvious by now why the American alt-right sees Russia as its ace in hole: the USA is liberal; China is communist; Russia is theirs by divine right (i.e. by exclusion).

The metaphor of a safe haven used as a cornerstone for reconquest and purification of the original land is old: Sulla retook the Roman Republic after retreating and recovering in Greece; Caesar did the same with Gaul. William of Orange came from quasi-mystical capitalist haven Netherlands to symbolically save capitalism in the UK, and the entire history of Portugal (and its unbreakable ties with Spain) is built on the idea of Leon and Castile - as an exile - expelling the Moors. The alt-right probably fantasize about using Russia as a springboard of reconquering and purifying America (see Bannon's "Judeo-Christian Civilization" hypothesis).

Posted by: vk | Jan 19 2021 14:44 utc | 149

@ Bemildred | Jan 19 2021 13:50 utc | 146

Thanks for the book advise; found one hardcover, first edition for the collection (plus two other 'finds', treasures all).

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Jan 19 2021 14:45 utc | 150

Here is an interesting tidbit from a David Zhang** YT yesterday. According to his sources, PRC food safety testing agencies report finding evidence [by rt-PRC undoubtedly] of sars-CoV2 on at least two domestic food products:

-ice cream (made with "raw ingredients" imported from New Zealand, and Ukraine)

-processed fish products (made with fish imported from Canada

According to Zhang, China's testing agencies have previously reported finding evidence of presence of sars-CoV2 [again, undoubtedly RNA bits picked up by systematic rt-PCR testing/screening] in *German pork* and farmed fish/seafood from *India*].

Zhang spins this as China blame-shifting/hiding domestic food CV contamination issues already present inside China.

I am guessing Chinese authorities are honestly reporting positive (+) rt-PCR test results in foreign sourced foods, while at the same time downplaying/suppressing news of (+) rt-PCR findings in the domestic sourced foods.

This raises a couple of questions in my mind.

Assuming that, like China, the US and EU/UK health/food safety agencies are also doing systematic rt-PCR testing on their domestic and imported food supplies, why are they *NOT* reporting *ANY* instances of (+) rt-PCR findings?

Could it be that they routinely are getting a *large volume* of (+) rt-PCR findings in their food supplies, but they know scientifically, that getting a (+) rt-PCR is essentially meaningless from a food risk diagnostic standpoint.

And perhaps the western public health agency spokespeople don't know how to plausibly explain to the public, without appearing to be obvious hypocrites, that, on the one hand, a (+) rt-PCR finding means nothing when it comes to citizens' food safety, but on the other hand when it comes to quarantining/banning/locking down citizens and shutting down their businesses and the services economy, that a (+) rt-PCR finding has been deployed as the diagnostic gold standard test to determine who gets their freedom taken way.

https://youtu.be/PuDps12qi0Y?t=806

**David Zhang represents positions and interests (Hong Kong, Taiwan, Falun Gong, others) opposed to the current PRC govmt leadership. Zhang is currently expresses a pro-Trump viewpoint.

Posted by: gm | Jan 19 2021 14:49 utc | 151

Downtownhaiku @ 130

S-C publishes both articles and editorials. The editorials are labeled as editorials. All that I have seen are written by Giraldi. The occasional labeled editorial that slips through without a byline will sometimes include a photo of Giraldi and always is in Giraldi’s style. Most of the authors at S-C have some sort of career history as journalists or scribblers, Giraldi is an operation manager.

S-C is an an information operation. Giraldi was eighteen years at CIA, there is no reason to believe he has broken ties to CIA. His chosen authors are a rough lot, that he stoops to give an outlet to LaRouche crackpots is enough to confirm that anything found there must be viewed with great caution. If even the readers here are all simply incapable of critical reading then the operation succeeds entirely.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 19 2021 15:06 utc | 152

Posted by: vk | Jan 19 2021 14:44 utc | 149

Your theory of retreat to better return later is plausible, if not realistic on their part. A plot much favored by Hollywood too, what good Hollywood hero does not first get the living crap beaten out of him before, restored by the love of a good woman, he rises up like Godzilla and lays waste to all before him?

Koestler, if I remember right, spends a good deal of time on that subject in "Act of Creation", I can't remember the French phrase now.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Jan 19 2021 14:45 utc | 150

My pleasure, I enjoyed it and it widened my horizons a good deal. You never know whether these things are going to be of interest or not, so always a pleasure when it works out.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 19 2021 15:13 utc | 153

Bemildred @Jan19 14:16 #148

So one can infer they were desperate to stop Trump.

No. That's going too far.

One can infer that TPTB are desperate to stop the conservative Movement. That Movement was essentially known as the "Tea Party" before faux populist Trump co-opted it.

In much the same way Obama and Bernie co-opted the Occupy Wall Street and the progressive Movement.

Obama, Biden, Clintons are "Third Way" Centrists. What is known as the "Radical Center" is protecting itself.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 19 2021 15:52 utc | 154

Global Times reports on an essay published by the German newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (Check it out b or other German barflies) deeming "China's system, although 'authoritarian,' is 'very successful.'" [My Emphasis]

"It explained that as long as a society can reach the following goals - improving social welfare, increasing consumption choices, safeguarding domestic security, promoting education, and providing good healthcare - people will support and trust the system even if their influence in the decision-making process is limited. Such can 'in part ensure the legitimacy' of the social system....

"But the authors' introspection stopped from digging problems as they tried to shift blame to the rise of populism in the US."

No examination of Neoliberalism's utter failure to deliver benefits to the masses while expropriating the wealth they produced for delivery to the class of Financial Parasites. At least the writers at Global Times get it right:

"In Western countries, the so-called democracy has also brought about waves of populism, the more fundamental reason for which is quite a few Western elites have been long ignoring the needs of the people. Populism consists of anti-elitist sentiment. The grassroots' appeals are often given the cold shoulder in a Western democratic system....

"Populism, which helped crown Donald Trump, is being blamed today. Yet it all started from the widening gap between rich and poor. When German scholars use the US populist government as a scapegoat, they overlooked the real question - without addressing the growing inequality in a Western system, will there be a second Trump in the future?" [My Emphasis]

The fatal thrust is delivered in the two closing paragraphs but still omit naming the actual culprit, which is the ideology of Neoliberalism:

"The article raised the support and trust of people when it comes to judgment over the legitimacy of a society. In this regard, data speak louder than words. According to a poll conducted in 2020 by US-based global public relations and marketing consultancy firm Edelman, 95 percent of Chinese trust their government while the US government only saw an approval of 48 percent.

"What other excuses will the Western world have to question the legitimacy of the Chinese system? If the West, especially the US, the beacon of democracy, actually senses the crisis and does not wish to lose the competition, it should stop burying its head in the sand." [My Emphasis]

The problem isn't heads being buried in sand; rather, it's the design of the ideology to exploit and degrade a nation's masses so they're left with relatively nothing compared to the nation's Financial Parasites, all so the latter will always have their Free Unearned Lunch.


Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 19 2021 17:55 utc | 155

@ karlof1

the west will say that those details in your 3rd to last paragraph is just chinese propaganda... and the problem with putting the emphasis on the ideology of neoliberalism, is a lot of ordinary people don't know exactly what neoliberalism is, or means... however, if it is pointed out how the richer are getting richer, while the poor are getting poorer and the ratios in all of this are becoming more skewed, i think people of all stripes can relate to this... it is why so many people are living on the streets today in the usa and canada or if not that - in trailers or vehicles and such... it is poverty that people can relate to more then the word neoliberalism.. those are my thoughts on it.. it seems china is going in a healther and more positive direction.. kudos to them!

Posted by: james | Jan 19 2021 18:02 utc | 156

I found this article to be quite curious given the technological competition between China and the West, "Chinese university confirms feasibility of establishing space-to-ground quantum communication network". The article reports on a thesis recently published in Nature:

"According to the article, based on the connection of China's Beijing-Shanghai quantum communication network, the world's first quantum-encrypted network, and the Mozi satellite, the Chinese research groups demonstrate the world's first integrated space-to-ground quantum communication network over 4,600 kilometers that combines a large-scale fiber network of more than 700 fiber quantum key distribution (QKD) links and two high-speed satellite-to-ground free-space QKD links.

"According to the abstract of thesis, the QKD technique has the 'potential to enable secure communication and information transfer,' which is one of the most advanced features for quantum communication network. It also noted that the research staff have taken more than two years to conduct stability and safety tests on it, and proved that the Beijing-Shanghai quantum communication network can withstand all currently known quantum hacking methods and ensure cyber safety." [My Emphasis]

Seems China will soon have a capability immune from NSA hacking and eavesdropping. I'd also say China's not concerned with the publication of such an advancement.

This second noteworthy article, "Shanghai, other coastal regions vow to achieve peak CO2 emissions ahead of national schedule", I found important because if China can make such a rapid advancement, then there's no excusing other nations inabilities. Yes, the article does note the regions's advantages over others within China, which ought to be seen as a plus for other developing nations as they too try to enhance their economies without generating additional carbon pollution.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 19 2021 18:19 utc | 157

It snowed on the Sahara Desert and here's a video showing snow on the sands!

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 19 2021 18:31 utc | 158

Wonder how he had time to play golf.

White House Releases List of President Trump’s Accomplishments – And It Is Historic!

Posted by: arby | Jan 19 2021 19:27 utc | 159

@157 karlof1

I read somewhere in the last week or so that Huawei is already trialing a quantum-encrypted network in some region of China - I'm pretty sure it was space-ground communication, but I don't know where I saw the report.

You know how China works, first they test something extensively in a region or market somewhere, then based on results they adjust and roll out nationally.

I look forward to my first Huawei phone sometime in perhaps the next 2-3 years. And Quantum encryption would be a triumph of irony.

Posted by: Grieved | Jan 19 2021 19:50 utc | 160

@ Bemildred | Jan 19 2021 15:13 utc | 153

Yes, there are those seminal books. Peter Frankopan's The Silk Roads, A New History of the World ISBN 978-1-4088-3997-3 Bloomsbury was one (up to post World War II when it went off the rails with poorly digested recent 'history/propaganda'). The book's treatment of history as something other than western owned was refreshing, shedding a new light on non-European contributions and opening the doors of curiosity and interest. A far cry from the first history books I read where history was mostly comprised of kings and the battles they fought in some year or another. Thanks for your kind reply.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Jan 19 2021 20:18 utc | 161

gm @151 "Assuming that, like China, the US and EU/UK health/food safety agencies are also doing systematic rt-PCR testing on their domestic and imported food supplies..."

That is a huge assumption that I have seen no evidence of. America's Food and Drug Administration is quite conservative and doesn't introduce new food testing requirements on a whim; it usually takes an Executive Order or a law change to do something like mass screening for a virus using PCR tests. Absent any word in the mass media about something like this I can guarantee it isn't being done in the US, and probably not in Europe either. There may be some grad students at a university somewhere taking samples from their local supermarket for testing, but clearly they have not published yet.

There is no coordinated response to the pandemic in the US either, so if the FDA hasn't been ordered to expand testing then it is simply not being done. America's food supplies could be (and probably are) massively contaminated with the Fort Detrick Flu and we simply don't know about it because nobody has been ordered, or paid, to find out.

As for the suspicion that Chinese authorities are downplaying the presence of coronavirus contamination in their domestic food supply chains, what could be their motivation for lying about it? That is, aside from the standard western brainwash about "They're communists! They always lie about something!" So far they have been 100% successful in tracking down the sources of all outbreaks other than the initial one in Wuhan. That wouldn't be possible if they were hiding contamination of their food supply, so it isn't even a question of motive. The accusation from the Falun Gong lunatic cannot be fit into the available evidence. That accusation can only exist in an information bubble that depends upon ignorance.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 19 2021 20:18 utc | 162

As an addendum to my post above @162, I would very much suspect that viral contamination of food products being shipped to China to be deliberate, particularly when the source countries are ones under the Empire's heel like Canada or Ukraine. Probably spooks with spray bottles misting it directly on products destined for China.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 19 2021 20:30 utc | 163

William Gruff @163--

Very possibly correct since the contamination is always discovered on the exterior of the packing material, not on the most often seafood product inside. Thus, China's new rules for the handling of such products.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 19 2021 23:15 utc | 164

@William Gruff | Jan 19 2021 20:18 utc | 162
Pardon me, but...
if US, EU, UK, etc., are NOT doing regular systematic pcr monitoring of food production/processing system output *after* huge meatpacking,poultry plant/abattoir fruit-veg processor shutdowns [that *were* publicized widely in 2020] due to massive covid superspreader outbreaks across the 'Advanced West', then it is deliberate malfeasance, if not something even much darker.

Posted by: gm | Jan 20 2021 0:12 utc | 165

gm @165: "if US, EU, UK, etc., are NOT doing regular systematic pcr monitoring of food production/processing system...then it is deliberate malfeasance, if not something even much darker."

Is incompetence, lack of material and organizational resources, and stinginess really darker? The FDA, who would be tasked with the testing, doesn't even have the personnel to do the testing that they are normally supposed to do. They couldn't screen America's food supplies for a novel virus contamination if they wanted to. The Chinese are able to do so because they treated the fight against the contagion as war (which it is) and mobilized immense resources (their whole society) to wage it. Just look around at all of the mouth-breathing chin-maskers in America to see how much Americans have pitched in to defeat the Fort Detrick Flu.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 20 2021 1:57 utc | 166

@William Gruff | Jan 20 2021 1:57 utc | 166

You can search the internet just as well as I can, so I don't know why you are even trying to throw that BS against the wall.

https://www.just-food.com/news/trading-through-covid-19-and-beyond-daily-food-industry-updates-wednesday-23-december-free-to-read_id144405.aspx

May 20 Reuters story on German abattoir outbreaks

https://www.pigprogress.net/Health/Articles/2020/5/Covid-19-French-and-Dutch-slaughterhouse-staff-test-positive-588262E/

https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2020/05/14/German-slaughterhouses-under-fire-over-COVID-19-spread

https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2020/06/24/coronavirus-outbreaks-and-closures-hit-europes-meat-factories/

Despite all these ongoing covid spreading issues at Western food plants, known >9 months ago, AND an accelerating covid death rate in the West, no systematic food production safety PCR testing regime put place in any Western countries???

At the same time western goverments are locking down people, and taking away their livelihoods based upon broad based pcr tests (of people, not the food they consume) ???

Posted by: gm | Jan 20 2021 2:43 utc | 167

and in the US, the responsible agency(s) for monitoring/ensuring food material safety would be the the USDA (not FDA), and perhaps in some serious emergent situations (as in the covid pandemic) Homeland Security.

FDA only regulates food additives (preservatives, colorants, processing aids, allowed (residual pesticides/hormones/antibiotics etc) to the basic raw food material.

Posted by: gm | Jan 20 2021 3:03 utc | 168

gm @167

Check for yourself: USDA - Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)

No mention of testing the food supply itself for coronavirus. Considering it would be a billion dollar operation involving scores of thousands of trained personnel one would think it would get a mention on their page about the pandemic if they were doing it.

Should the US and EU be screening the food supply? Absolutely. Are they? No. Employees in the packing plants are being tested but there is no testing of the products themselves that are being processed. Just because they should be testing the food supply doesn't mean that they are testing.

If you read the department and agency press releases you will see their emphasis has been on helping to keep production up so there will be no serious shortages. They don't even mention the possibility of food being contaminated with coronavirus.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 20 2021 13:17 utc | 169

Re: William Gruff | Jan 20 2021 13:17 utc | 169

Of course, it is always a matter of priorities, will...and plausible deniability behind any decision or policy made/not made by the controlled puppets we call our political leaders.

It is rarely a matter of money if the controllers want a thing to be so.

So can we just agree that food safety CV pcr testing of western supply chains is *not* a priority of our Overlords.

Posted by: gm | Jan 20 2021 13:41 utc | 170

Another data center hit by Lee RV Oswald's Spanish cousin?

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/massive-explosion-rocks-downtown-madrid

Posted by: gm | Jan 20 2021 14:49 utc | 171

Goddammit, Barflies - you gave the American mandarins too many ideas:

How to Vaccinate 100 Million Americans in 100 Days

The United States needs a vaccination plan that treats the coronavirus less like the seasonal flu and more like an act of bioterrorism.

Now the USG will have to forge a story of bioterrorism (by China) in order to create a whole rationale to establish a national consensus just to vaccinate 100 million Americans.

Posted by: vk | Jan 20 2021 18:15 utc | 172

Putin's meeting with Gazprom CEO Miller provides a good look at the state of Russia's power-infrastructure development and the state of its export sales to China; yet oddly, there was no mention of Nord Stream 2's status. Miller reports on the status of getting all Russian households hooked into the national gas grid:

"Your instructions regarding signing medium-term five-year programmes on connecting users in the regions to the gas grid have been fulfilled: all 67 programmes have been signed, their objectives and tasks through 2025 have been outlined.

"Gazprom is almost tripling the financing. The total volume of investment by Gazprom over this period will reach 526.1 billion rubles. We plan to build 24,400 kilometres of gas pipelines and connect 3,632 cities and villages to the grid. By the end of 2025, 35 regions in Russia will have a complete gas network. It will amount to 90.1 percent of what is technically possible to do in the country regarding connecting users to the grid.

"Also, Mr President, in accordance with your instructions, we have set the goals for 2030. By 2030, the technically possible connection to the gas grid in Russia will be completed by 100 percent. We also signed plans and schedules with the regions for the synchronisation of works for 2021. Starting January 1, Gazprom and the regions are gathering a new speed, a new pace of work.

"So, there are two priorities for us at the moment: the social focus of the programme to provide gas supply and the further connection of rural areas to the gas grid."

IMO, it's crucial to understand that in many ways Russia remains a developing nation similar to that of China. It's also creating something that doesn't exist within the Outlaw US Empire and probably never will--a national gas grid. For example, my village will never be connected and instead propane is supplied to those houses and businesses that choose its use.

Miller tells Putin international demand for Russian gas is higher than ever, and that the supply to China has gone well beyond contracted expectations. And as noted in an earlier comment, that the facilities for a massive expansion in Russia's Petrochemical industry are proceeding apace was confirmed by Miller.

Here Putin reviews EAEU status prior to a discussion addressing the implementation of integration projects:

"The Union is consistently expanding its common market of services. It already includes 53 sectors and will embrace another five areas this year.

"I would also like to note that the Union countries have endorsed a concept on forming an EAEU common financial market. Preparations are underway for creating a common electricity market. We have embarked on implementing the programme for establishing common markets of gas, oil and petroleum products. This is a complicated issue."

A common financial market firewalled against encroachment by the West merits close watching. And much integration occurred thanks to the pandemic. One of the major benefactors in this whole process is Iran, while major help was delivered to all the 'Stans.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 20 2021 19:49 utc | 173

My estimation as to Putin's philosophy's confirmed by Peskov:

"Peskov dismissed a remark by former US Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul that the Russian leader allegedly favored the ideology of anti-Western and anti-American anti-liberalism.

"'No, Putin’s ideology cannot be related to [anything] abroad, the key ideology of Putin is the development, stability and prosperity of Russia and each Russian,' Peskov clarified.

"All foreign policy goals and issues of fostering Russia’s relations with other countries are based on this, he noted. 'Everything should be in the interests of Russia and for Russians,' Peskov stressed." [My Emphasis]

As I've said now for several years, Putin is a Liberal Nationalist in the Traditional Russian Mode, which is why he gets outstanding support across Russia's social and political spectrum. I hope he writes his own Memoirs once he retires from his presidential duties.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 20 2021 20:44 utc | 174

thank you, karlof1@173/4. your insights are much appreciated as are your links.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Jan 20 2021 21:15 utc | 175

@173 & 174 karlof1 - A common financial market firewalled against encroachment by the West merits close watching

Indeed. It may be the only fun for a while in the US, watching other countries escape the noose while we get pulled tighter into it.

And the Peskov comment is a welcome clarification. I still wonder how Putin will create a sustainable system to survive him, but maybe a simple representative government is adequate. Time will tell.

Posted by: Grieved | Jan 20 2021 23:25 utc | 176

Grieved @176--

The transition of power from one leader to the next--succession--has always been troublesome as we just witnessed. What I see in Russia is Putin has set a very high benchmark for performance, adherence to duty and promotion of all things Russian--IMO he's the best Tsar Russia's ever had. As for Putin being illiberal, he's the exact opposite given his tolerance, openmindedness, and patience, and he makes very clear those things he abhors, things that are shared by billions. He's made it very clear that he has no time for dishonesty, a trait that is constantly smeared and mocked by the completely dishonest West. Yet, he and his associates refuse to stoop to the level of their dishonest detractors, which merely serves to enrage the latter even more as they try to place the blame for their immorality onto him and Russia.

The person that replaces Putin will need to emulate him as best as possible to be successful, and it will be a great help that Putin will be available to act as tutor and mentor. The path Putin has set Russia on is in its best interests and has the support of the great majority of Russians, and its goals are mapped out to 2030 currently, which will likely be extended further into the future as we go forward.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 20 2021 23:59 utc | 177

karlof1@177, i concur completely. the same holds for lavrov. both seem very able mentors & have russia's return & recovery their prime focus & mission. russia is very blessed to have such leaders. the cabinet & foreign office under both men seems all but peerless. again, thank you for your many links & comments.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Jan 21 2021 0:16 utc | 178

emersonreturn @178--

Thanks for this and your previous replies! I don't think Putin would have been as successful a leader of the USSR, however, because of its governing structure. Indeed, although its tragic to say so, Putin benefitted politically from the rapine visited upon Russia by the West and was forced to solve a series of numerous crises atop of the terrorist assault launched by NATO in the Caucasus. In light of that event, I find it amazing that Putin has any tolerance for NATO whatsoever. And I'd very much like to know his genuine thoughts about 911.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 21 2021 1:14 utc | 179

karlof1@179, i agree...whilst feeling putin witnessed the rape, seeing what was stolen, the tremendous unrivalled grand scale theft & somehow in there saw the way through & had the wisdom, vision & patience to see his way to rescue & restore...along the way he knew those true souls to source & engage & those to counter, stage, watch & measure. watching him teaches us all about survival @ its finest & surest.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Jan 21 2021 1:24 utc | 180

In followup to my own post @73 on the reputation protection of Assange, I'm only making explicit which is common implicit knowhow. So the two women in the Swedish case have now reappeared and there's a book(how long does that take to publish?), a TV program and likely a campaign to press home again the image of Assange as a rapist. To reimpose the reputational damage which had weakened when the legal threats were removed. I expect there is bad faith involved but the amplification will to large extent be spontaneous and more about variants of confirmation bias .

Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Jan 21 2021 8:59 utc | 181

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