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January 03, 2021

The MoA Week In Review - OT 2021-001

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:

Elena_MYL @Elena_MYL - 2:28 UTC · Dec 29, 2020
I search a bit about #ZhangZhan online and here’s what I found. She was detained several times before, from 10 days to 65 days since 2019. She got warning for the first time in 2018.
Pic. She’s holding an umbrella says” End socialism, take down CPC”.
She’s a Christian zealot with a strong tendency towards martyrdom. She made hunger strike several times during the detention.
She had psychiatric assessments during the detention since she kept talking Jesus, Bible, God, etc.
Here’s video from her YouTube channel. She spoke in a very slow speed. “I preached gospel to her : The cross of Jesus Christ bears the sins of everyone, salvation is found in no one else, but Jesus. Actually I’d prefer to preach gospel to those cops and ppl who quarantined her.
Here is an article she wrote accusing Chinese government acting like god. She used the word “神” (God) 62 times.
#ZhangZhan regards herself undertaking God’s mission. Somehow reminds me of Adrian Zens who fabricated Uyghur genocide claiming he’s been led by God against Beijing. ...

Other issues:


John Burn-Murdoch @jburnmurdoch - 8:07 UTC · Dec 31, 2020
NEW chart thread:
The latest UK Covid data paints a dire picture, with London and much of the south now in a worse position than they were at the spring peak, and hospitals struggling to cope
18% of tests in London now come back positive, and rates are climbing everywhere.
20:04 UTC · Jan 2, 2021
We can also look at data not only on how many Covid patients are in hospital, but what share they make up of *all* available beds.
Covid patients now occupy more than half of all beds in many areas (and rising fast), including 63% in North Middlesex.


> We’re talking about treating very, very large populations, which means that you’re going to see the usual run of mortality and morbidity that you see across large samples. Specifically, if you take 10 million people and just wave your hand back and forth over their upper arms, in the next two months you would expect to see about 4,000 heart attacks. About 4,000 strokes. Over 9,000 new diagnoses of cancer. And about 14,000 of that ten million will die, out of usual all-causes mortality. No one would notice. That’s how many people die and get sick anyway. <
Gregg Carlstrom @glcarlstrom - 9:01 UTC · Dec 30, 2020
We really need to do a better job avoiding irresponsible headlines and tweets about the vaccine (like this one). It's not enough that the article contextualizes the story, because people don't always read the article:
California nurse tests positive over a week after receiving Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine: ABC
Ruben Carbajal @rubencarbajal - 19:55 UTC · Jan 1, 2021
Man Wins Lottery After Receiving Vaccine
Man Receives Junk Mail After Receiving Vaccine
Man Audited After Receiving Vaccine
Man Finds Extra Fries in Bottom of Bag After Receiving Vaccine

Poverty alleviation - 'Costly' but successful:

Nils Gilman @nils_gilman - 13:27 UTC · Feb 6, 2019
Number of Chinese living in extreme poverty (<$1.90/day):
1980: 835m
1990: 770m
1999: 508m
2008: 170m
2015: 10m (not a typo)
Put another way: 75% of global poverty reduction since the 1970s is a result of Chinese Communist Party domestic policy success. source

EU-China deal:


Use as open thread ...

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Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 4 2021 10:15 utc | 105

It is the Feng Huang, a most divine bird :-)

" legends describe the feng huang’s body as corresponding with the celestial bodies with its head as the sky, its eyes as the sun, its back as the moon, its feet as the Earth, and its tail as the planets. Thus, the bird was regarded as a link between our world and the heavens beyond ... the feng huang’s vivid plumage is composed of the five fundamental colors of Chinese philosophy—yellow, white, red, black, and green—and corresponds with the five Confucian values of benevolence, duty, respect, wisdom, and faith."

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 4 2021 10:26 utc | 101

Outside London Criminal Court awaiting Assange verdict:

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Jan 4 2021 10:39 utc | 102

watching it live, no announcement yet.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 4 2021 10:40 utc | 103

The Court rejects Assange's extradition to the U.S.

Notice on Sputnik News updates

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Jan 4 2021 11:04 utc | 104


Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 4 2021 11:05 utc | 105

Another defeat for the empire, Assange will be free.


The clown cart Biden administration seems like it is about to fart into a bottle again.

I'm still laughing at that one, Wolfram at its hardest. They could export it as liquified ass gas, almost as polluting as fracking.

Posted by: Paco | Jan 4 2021 11:23 utc | 107


I stated no spin and that includes trying to have it both ways. This election was mostly a referendum on Trump, duopoly aside. That's why people voted in historical unprecedented numbers. So whether you like it or not, there was a clear winner and a clear loser and you were incapable of the truth.

Yours is a deceptive non-answer. It doesn't matter if you voted for or support a third party. That's not the issue. The issue is deception or integrity as in respect for the truth or denial of it for ulterior motive. If you skirt the truth, your whole foundation crumbles. Illusion is not a basis for conviction on anything.

I give most of you a fail for the bullshit spin. You cannot have credibility if you can't even respect the simple, obvious truth before you. You are unconvincing if not humbled by the truth above all else. The ability to respect the truth above one's personal agenda separates the chaff from the wheat in all matters.

Uncle T.

The Dems do not control the Senate or the Presidency; ergo, Republicans under Trump and Mitch McConnell have all the power right now, therefore your filth says more about YOU than Biden and Dems!

You're the one farting hot air in a bottle. You have ZERO integrity and ZERO moral decency. You are nothing but a hate-filled, resentful degenerate spewing nonsensical garbage going nowhere into the stratosphere of humanity.

Posted by: Circe | Jan 4 2021 11:25 utc | 108

@ Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 4 2021 6:46 utc | 84

I think the opposite is true: the nation-state is weaker than ever. That's why there's a nationalist reaction to begin with.

Another evidence for this (besides the rise of Traditionalism) is that even nations we consider to be the quintessential conservative - Turkey and Russia - are being forced to think nationalistically in terms of blocks of nations or alliances: Russia with Eurasianism (alliance with China and the ex-USSR nations, but also with Iran, Cuba and Venezuela) and Turkey with its Neo-ottomanism (Erdogan; the supremacy of Anatolia over Thrace).

Even the USA under Trump, as it was "decoupling" from China, was essentially thinking about an alliance with Russia (Judeo-Christian brothers) and, after it failed, the restoration of the Western alliance (Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan, India, Israel and Western Europe). An alliance with Russia was the founding block of Trump's (and Bannon's) nationalist project.

We don't even need to talk about China. Even the American liberals talk of Chinese nationalism was essentially the BRI, which is a global project par excellence.

So, what we're observing is that, no matter how you cut it, nationalism is mutating from ethnic and historical borders to alliances and blocks between nation-states. Even the most rabid Traditionalist concedes that their Judeo-Christian utopia would continue trade and exchange between nations.

Posted by: vk | Jan 4 2021 11:47 utc | 109

@Norwegian | Jan 4 2021 9:03 utc | 102

I expect only the very worst from these criminals, but would like to be surprised.

Can we believe this?

Magistrate Vanessa Baraitser on Monday rejected a U.S. extradition request on both indictments for WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange.

Magistrate Vanessa Baraitser on Monday ordered Julian Assange’s discharged based on a severe risk of suicide.

Well, I will await his actual release before I believe it.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 4 2021 12:26 utc | 110

From Wikileaks

"The Judge has ruled that the US prison system is too inhumane to permit extraditing Julian Assange.

The battle is not over - as the US has said they are going to appeal her decision.

This is obviously great news, but at the same time concerning that the judge agreed with everything the US prosecution put forward, and only decided not to extradite Julian because of how inhumane the US prison system is."

Posted by: arby | Jan 4 2021 13:12 utc | 111

Kind of strange to order his release on grounds of severe risk of suicide. Seems to me during the whole process she kept him locked up, kept him locked in a cage in court, wouldn't allow him access to his lawyers, etc., but now she is suddenly concerned with his welfare?

Posted by: arby | Jan 4 2021 13:25 utc | 112

Posted by: arby | Jan 4 2021 13:25 utc | 113

They need an excuse to let him go, and they don't want to invalidate their argument for extraditng him. They got both, and everybody will now back off to see if he gets out. I think it's a tell, things are getting out of hand.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 4 2021 13:34 utc | 113

@arby | Jan 4 2021 13:25 utc | 113
Indeed, this smells bad.

But priority one is to see him released.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 4 2021 13:35 utc | 114

Covid related, is Quercetin proved to work? How much onion and garlic does it take for a prophylactic use?
any outcome to the trial?
what about this?
how come there are no comments to this paper?
seems that quercetin and vit. C and D + zinc are the best vaccin...

Posted by: Mina | Jan 4 2021 13:48 utc | 115

Bemildred @ 114

Yes, for all intents and purposes they have sent a very clear message to any journalist that dares to pull down the pants of the Blob.

Posted by: arby | Jan 4 2021 15:06 utc | 116

DUBAI/SEOUL (Reuters) -Iran’s Revolutionary Guards Corps seized a South Korean-flagged tanker in Gulf waters, Iranian media said on Monday, at a time of tension between Tehran and Seoul over Iranian funds frozen at South Korean banks due to U.S. sanctions.


Seoul "froze" mere 7 billion dollars. We are going back to 17-th and 18-th century when piracy was an important element of statecraft.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jan 4 2021 15:17 utc | 117

Thanks for the clarification jackrabbit.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 4 2021 15:31 utc | 118

About piracy as a tool to build global supremacy (rather than income for local chieftains):

His [Cavendish] first trip and successful circumnavigation made him rich from captured Spanish gold, silk and treasure from the Pacific and the Philippines. His richest prize was the captured 600 ton sailing ship the Manila Galleon Santa Ana (also called Santa Anna). He was knighted by Queen Elizabeth I of England after his return. He later set out for a second raiding and circumnavigation trip but was not as fortunate and died at sea at the age of 31.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jan 4 2021 15:34 utc | 119

@ Jackrabbit | Jan 4 2021 7:24 utc | 88

"They are gradually eliminating trade ties with Empire adversaries and ... are preparing for war with a big military build-up, discarding arms control treaties, militarizing space, and breath-taking belligerence like 1) reneging on NK peace treaty; 2) occupying Syrian oil fields; 3) snubbing the UN to support Israel; 3) assassinating Gen. Soleimani; 4) seizing Venezuelan State assets; and I would add 5) the Beirut port explosion - a 911-like event for Lebanon that has effectively sidelined Hezbollah as a political force."

A point to add: 6) weaponizing health care, as "Gates (2015a) envisions an organization [such as the WHO] empowered to":

- Work closely with Western military forces, specifically NATO, in operations targeting the developing world. (Planning “should include military alliances such as NATO”; “in a severe epidemic, the military forces of many or all middle- and high-income countries might have to work together.”)

- Bypass national safety regulations in order to fast-track testing and use of novel vaccines and other medications. (New Ebola drugs “were not tested in patients with Ebola until after the epidemic had peaked—in part because there was no clear process for approving a novel trial format or for providing indemnity against legal liability.”)

- Suspend constitutional guarantees in sovereign nations affected by epidemics. (“Because democratic countries try to avoid abridging individuals’ rights to travel and free assembly, they might be too slow to restrict activities that help spread disease.”)

- Create worldwide surveillance networks, presumably free of privacy protections, that would make information about people in developing countries instantly available to the imperial core.(“Access to satellite photography and cell-phone data” would permit tracking “the movement of populations and individuals in the affected region.”)

Source: The Gates Foundation, Ebola, and Global Health Imperialism

Posted by: js | Jan 4 2021 16:29 utc | 120

@ oglalla and debs... thanks...

happy new year to you both as well!

Posted by: james | Jan 4 2021 16:38 utc | 121

Parallel-construction is simply a euphemism for lies.

Observe for yourself how broadly parallel-construction describes "news" and
"information" and "history". The creators of parallel-construction are talented and well paid tools for population control.

Economics" as parallel-construction? Consider the very definition of "finance" as the management of money, especially large sums. Parallel-construction underlies all fortune and the get-rich-quick modes and IRS tax avoidance v. evasion.

Modern accounting is the art of parallel-construction.

Did I mention the practice of law?

Being creative with reality pays. Ask ant troll.

Posted by: chu teh | Jan 4 2021 16:39 utc | 122

@Dr. George W Oprisko #58
You clearly don't understand that many states have election day registration to vote.
Even discounting that - the "registered voter" counts are notoriously unreliable. I've seen older versions of one of the political party voter databases - it is larger than the population of the United States. This isn't qualitatively different than many state voter databases. Thus the "registered vote" numbers are generally SWAG guesses of some percentage of the actual database.
Or in other words, meaningless. Trump absolutely benefited from the mail-in ballots as well - just not as much as Biden since a significant chunk of the 15% to 30% of Americans who live off of welfare to some degree, also don't turn out to vote much.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 4 2021 16:51 utc | 123

@ Piotr Bierman 120
When I went to 2ary school in Chile, Chilean history text books described "SIR" Francis Drake as an ordinary pirate plundering innocent Spanish coastal towns.

An early example for me personally that US history was not "universal history". The whole experience of living in Chile got me outside of US culture during the 50ies, so I learned to appreciate that there was a "there" outside of the US of A.

Posted by: SinFronteras | Jan 4 2021 16:53 utc | 124

@ Posted by: frtitzcat | Jan 4 2021 16:53 utc | 125

The term "globalism" is an invention by the alt-right movement to designate a conspiracy on a global scale between anonymous elites from various countries. It has a very specific meaning, not simply designating any internationalist project.

Socialism has in its agenda the international collaboration and solidarity of the working classes, but it is not globalist. There are no socialist "masters of the universe" behind the decline of the West or the rise of China.

Posted by: vk | Jan 4 2021 16:56 utc | 125

@Grieved #64
I also think Jimmy Dore does good work.
But sadly, all the far left sniping will never amount to a hill of beans in the Democrat party until they are willing to shake off the masses of cash poured into that organization by the health care oligopoly.
That's the real problem. That's why ObamaCare was really "no health insurance company left behind" - the little good it did was more than offset by having the federal government pick up the tab for the welfare classes. Previously, these costs of treating these people was absorbed in the overall hospital costs but no more.
I've written extensively that the problem in the US isn't on the payer side - every moron who yaps about single payer is utterly wrong.
The problem is the actual cost of getting health care of any sort. Whether it is prescription drugs, hospital fees, emergency room visits, treatment for broken bones, tests, scans, whatever: the US has the most expensive of any of these in the whole world.
The only reason I am ok with Medicare For All is because Medicare actually puts an upper limit on what it will pay for anything. Thus it isn't the "single payer" aspect of M4A that matters - it is the Medicare price list.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 4 2021 16:57 utc | 126

@Nemesiscalling #69
The vaccine doesn't need to prevent transmission to be of great benefit.
If it shortens the transmissibility period by amping up immune system reactions to COVID, it will reduce the R factor to a significant degree.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 4 2021 16:59 utc | 127

@Formerly T-Bear #82
I see you've crossed paths with the sorceress who turns men into pigs.
I would suggest you view this person's posts as unintentional satirical comedy - which pokes fun at the Pig Maker's own incompetence, naivete and stupidity.
As you've noted, this individual has no idea of anything and can only serve as a useful idiot for the Democrat party donor classes.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 4 2021 17:04 utc | 128

@vk #110
You are utterly deluded.
The nation state is more powerful than ever.
Case in point: 99.9% of every transaction between individuals uses a national currency - one which the nation state can print more of at will.
Was this true 100 years ago? No. In 1920, most people had almost no cash and were subsistence farmers. The government has ZERO capability to extract value from them.
The list goes on and on:
a) residence, DOB, driver's license and telephone number information = government has more knowledge of who/where/what than ever before.
b) social media, web site visit history, call and text history, traffic cams + license plate OCR, cell phone metadata - the governments know more about who you talk to, what you do, where you go, what you are interested in, who your friends and acquiantances are, etc than ever before. In fact, the main problem they have now is figuring out how to organize and use it.
c) livelihood: how many people can survive for 5 years, truly on their own today? I'm not talking about idiots who can live in the "wilderness" with $10000 worth of store bought gear - I'm talking about people who know how to grow food, make clothes, raise livestock, butcher, thresh, preserve, simple medicine etc etc. Government has its fingers on all of those pulses.

No doubt your view is based on the capabilities of multinationals and billionaire oligarchs - yet even there, China and Europe have shown that governments have full power to rein those in as well. The problem is that the "leadership" in many Western Democracies and 3rd world dictatorships/banana republics share the same problem of leaders not being accountable to anyone. The Western Democracies hide it by pretending the PMC classes represent the whole population; the 3rd world does it by force. Same outcome.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 4 2021 17:14 utc | 129

@129 c1ue

Where is your proof?

Where is your science that states that shorten periods of symptomatic covid leads to less transmission?

You don't have any.

If anything, a stronger case of covid would mean more stringent self-isolation which implies less transmission. Becoming confident with covid through the vaccine will most likely accelerate transmission, because we will be "back to normal," which is what they promise after vaccine uptake.

Is this enough of a reason to mandate vaccines? That the government is protecting you from your own immune system's response?

The only rational explanation for mandating would be that it would help hospitalization rate, and that's it.

If it did prevent your ability to transmit it to immuno-compromised people who can not take the vaccine, that would be one thing. But the reality is nefarious to the nth degree: those who are vaccinated will transmit more covid cases to the immuno-compromised and elderly versus the naturally-acquired herd immunity where common sense dictates simply thay you should keep away from the vulnerable when exhibiting symptoms.

The vaccine is likely to do far more damage and death to the vulnerable than its lack.

Care to respond to this?

Posted by: Nemesiscalling | Jan 4 2021 17:22 utc | 130

China lectures Outlaw US Empire on proper utilization of vaccine:

"A vaccine is a powerful weapon against the pandemic. But as the virus has spread extensively, the effect of vaccines is similar to water hoses against a wildfire. Other measures must be taken simultaneously to stop it from spreading, and finally being eradicated. But the US' problem is it hasn't organized well let alone prepared with corresponding measures. The weakness of the US government's capability to handle a public crisis really makes one speechless."

One unmentioned fact about the Outlaw US Empire's failure to contain the virus is the utter lack of motivation to do just that by Trump and what certainly appeared to be behavior of an oppositional sort to doing anything whatsoever.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 4 2021 17:23 utc | 131

@127 vk

It must be nice to make up stuff as you go.

Damn, vk.

"Globalism is an alt-right concoction?"

Sounds like an MSNBC attempt at deflecting ctiticism of neolib economic policy.

Defending neolibs now, vk?

Of course you would being a shill for the CCP.

Why would the CCP want any arrangement to change with the U.S. where it is the prime beneficiary?

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 4 2021 17:25 utc | 132

Posted by: Circe | Jan 4 2021 11:25 utc | 109

The test type of exam popularized all over by the US system was a true disgrace for education, it turned infinite shades of color into a black and white question, and the results are all over to see.

But since you quizzed the bar with a yes or no test on a complex and out of reach matter for the patrons to prove I’ll send the ball back to you, on a very simple one:

Assange is a journalist.

Assange is a Russian tool.

I have the feeling the Queen of Chaos is not in a good mood today, she'll have to keep pulling strings to correct that verdict or its consequences.

Posted by: Paco | Jan 4 2021 17:32 utc | 133

All this stuff between progs and dems in the U.S. seems remniscent of the Bolshevik-Menshevik problem.

I will say this again, though: if progs were seriously interested in forming a coalition to provide m4all in the U.S., they would have to find common cause with conservatives who would not mind the concept, provided no money goes to "death-care" meaning Euthanasia, abortion, and contraception.

As it stands, I already know how conservatives will respond predictably to such an invite: they will be told by lobbysists of death-panels which will scare them from joining such a coaltion with the left.

If I had my druthers, I would trade the MIC in this country for a bloated Health-Indrusty-Complex any day of the week.

But true working-class progressives need to come to Jesus and make the right concessions to get the ball rolling.

You want to see a movement snowball into actual change? Progs join forces with conservatives to outwit corporate-government lobbyists and fuck the MIC once and for all.

But again, Bolsheviks gotta fight Mensheviks.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 4 2021 17:37 utc | 134

@ Posted by: frtitzcat | Jan 4 2021 17:39 utc | 137; @ Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 4 2021 17:37 utc | 136; @ Posted by: c1ue | Jan 4 2021 17:14 utc | 131

Again, the explanation for all of the worries you bring here is very simple: China is rising, but is not yet dominant.

The really existing world is not homogeneous: it is an amalgam of capitalism and socialism. But capitalism still is clearly the dominant (hegemonic) system - therefore, the peoples of the capitalist part of the world still don't want socialism, but to preserve and save capitalism at all costs. China, therefore, is not in control of the situation; it has to play by the capitalist rules when trading with other nation-states (except Cuba, North Korea and Vietnam). China is fighting to survive; to survive against the capitalist/traditionalist oppression, an oppression aimed at destroying the CPC and enslaving the Chinese people.

Posted by: vk | Jan 4 2021 18:06 utc | 135

@135 Paco

You think I'm going to answer your question before you answer: Did Trump win the 2020 election? Everyone has enough information to give a conclusive answer. It's not rocket science!

Posted by: Circe | Jan 4 2021 18:38 utc | 136

@ karlof1 | Jan 4 2021 17:23 utc | 133 with the China link...thanks

I was struck by the ending sentence of the quote
...The weakness of the US government's capability to handle a public crisis really makes one speechless.

As you write after, the response to the virus by the Trump administration seems quite conscious and managed. Lest any forget, the virus focus is creating cover for ongoing looting of the US Treasury. The canard written here by many that the elite are incompetent and blustering does not hold up to scrutiny. The private finance elite may have met their match by China but they continue to have a firm grip on most of the rest of the world through the tools of privately owned finance.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 4 2021 18:50 utc | 137

VK is right.

The terminology of "globalism" is an alt-right and neo-fascist ideological tool, the purpose of which is to deflect attention and analysis away from the structural logic of capitalism towards "self-expansion" on an international scale.

In particular, the language of "globalism" perceives and attributes the international restructuring of capital since the 1980s -- or even since 1944 -- to an ideological cabal of conspirators. For most of the alt-right trash obsessed with "globalism," this cabal is also Jewish.

What the alt-right refuses to understand, though, is the logic of capital towards internationalization, according to spatialized patterns of profitability and productivity.

Global restructuring since World War 2 wasn't an ideological plot of Jewish bankers and investors. It was the result, first, of America's massive industrial surpluses, which had to be sold on world markets, and the related need to secure critical raw materials; second, of the catch-up of West Germany and Japan by the 1960s and their success at seizing world market shares from US exporters; third, of the declining rate of profit for US firms, resulting from over-capacity in world markets, which itself was caused by the West German and Japanese export booms; and fourth, of the attempt by US, German, and Japanese corporations to increase rates of profit through exploiting wage differentials in global production chains in Asia, Eastern Europe, and Mexico.

The alt-right blames "globalism" when it should be blaming capitalism.

Posted by: Prof K | Jan 4 2021 19:12 utc | 138

There seems to be something real going on with reports of reactions and questionable efficacy with the Pfizer vaccine:

100s Of Israelis Infected With COVID After Receiving Pfizer Vaccine Amid Frenzied Inoculation Campaign

On the other hand, some of the negative stories about the Pfizer product, in the enviable position as the first covid vaccine to hit the market, could also be underhanded "black marketing' PR to dirty up the public image of the Pfizer vaccine and give incoming covid vaccines by competing pharma companies, opportunity/space to 'open up the market' and the new competing company's product a larger share of the incredibly lucrative world market demand for an effective Covid vaccine.

Such surreptitious 'black' PR dirty techniques against a rival company's product are not unheard of among US businesses, and that behavior definitely includes US Phrama competitors selling "me-too" versions of same drug/indication class in times of high demand and lucrative market.

Likewise Pharma has been using all kinds of surreptitious influences to discourage consideration of repurposed existing safe/cheap drug therapies (Ivermection, Zn, doxycycline etc,etc) for the main reason it seems, crudely, because their is little profit to be had in off-patent, repurposed drug therapeutic approaches for big Pharma. (12:37 min)

Posted by: gm | Jan 4 2021 19:30 utc | 139

@139 prof k

Of course, the blind spot of a worldview utterly focused on economics is the utter displacement of the nation.

Vk is guilty of this. And so are you, here.

Capitalism in pure form does not exist, and, so, with you and the former poster saying that we must attack capitalism is the equivalent of saying to take a stab at air.

How do I know this?

Because these same forces which control the levers of governmen p0lt which have allowed these globalists to outrun our pitchforks, also control our media seeking either to put the blame on one or the other, marxists or capitalists. It matters not, so long ad this ridiculous binary war continues ad infinitum.

Meanwhile, the elite, being satisfied with the plebs chasing their tails, crying "Capitalist!" Or..."Marxist!" are getting off with national wealth the world over.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 4 2021 19:35 utc | 140

NemesisCalling @84: "What does that make the Chinese then to be able to play the capitalist game better? Marxists?"

Absolutely. The vast majority of what Marx studied was the inner workings of capitalism. Most people seem to be under the mistaken impression that Marx studied communism or something, but Marx was adamant that communism had never existed except in prehistoric antiquity and in a primitive (radically pre-industrial, and even pre-agricultural) fashion. Marx could never study something that did not yet exist.

Marxists understand that capitalism is a very efficient way to develop industry. Going straight from a feudal economy to communism is somewhat doable, but the communists then get the blame for all the pain that industrialization inevitably causes. In the case of China, capitalism is being used instrumentally and has not been allowed to take over the commanding heights of the economy. While in America corporate persons are granted even more rights than meat persons, in China those corporate persons remain enslaved and in chains. Indeed, this enslavement of corporate persons by China forms the basis of the western ranting about "authoritarianism" and lack of "Freedom™" in China.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 4 2021 19:38 utc | 141

It seems the Saudis have decided to make up with Qatar again. Perhaps the King has decided to put a leash on MbS. I think Biden is going to confront a new situation, a fait accompli, by the time he gets the reins in his hands.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 4 2021 19:40 utc | 142

@ c1ue | Jan 4 2021 17:04 utc | 129

Not to worry, xitches don't bother. Have been ignoring said xitch most of last year and a half, maybe longer. Circe is nothing but a political pickaninny - a little child, sometimes cute, and a minority, playing at adult politics. Circe's error was trying to put her ideas into my words. Poor dear could not cop on to the idea that it wasn't which of her selections for answers were important but that the very integrity of an election itself putting her world at risk. Sure there have been both voter frauds and election frauds and mischievousness in almost every election but normally they are limited to single locations, Chicago for instance, hardly significant on the national scale. Since the turn of the century a qualitative change has occurred; voter manipulation in Florida in 2000 election; voting machine manipulation in Ohio in 2004, both statewide operations and now in 2020 some 30 plus states using dominion voting machines under ungoverned software operating systems in 60% of the country, a quantum leap of such significant magnitude to overwhelm credibility; brought to the nation through the machinations of the DNC in cahoots with the Democratic Congressional leadership making a Gish Gallop of events that would be impossible to monitor in a timely fashion. Circe hasn't the brain capacity to understand such machinations or their importance. I failed to educate the poor creature and will turn my attentions elsewhere. Thanks for the mention.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Jan 4 2021 19:48 utc | 143

William Gruff @142--

Great comment! Corporations enslaved instead of Human Capital or Human Capital set Free to explore its own destiny.


Pompeo gloated and boasted on Twitter about TrumpCo being the toughest ever on Russia. His crap was answered by this tweet from Russia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs with Pompeo's gloating superimposed over one of the great paintings depicting Napoleon's retreat from Moscow.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 4 2021 20:21 utc | 144

c1ue #129

As you've noted, this individual has no idea of anything and can only serve as a useful idiot for the Democrat party donor classes.

"Useful" ?

I would dispute that word but the rest of the sentence seems ok.

It is a measure of the depth of indoctrination and propaganda that a large number of people could vote for the little dandruff sniffing huckster from Ukraine that in any normal circumstance would be shunned.

That is the tragedy of the US political landscape.

Then, to add insult to injury, the squad capitulates to Nancy Pelosi at the very whiff of power. That is a betrayal that leaves Bernie Sanders endorsement of Joe Biden seem like a minor oversight.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 4 2021 20:23 utc | 145

karlof1 #145


Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 4 2021 20:26 utc | 146

And as long as I'm on the subject of Big Pharma and the Borg Powers that Be in COVID TRUTH bashing, trashing and censoring independent contrarian scientific thought that goes against the ONE TRUE DOGMA...

Ever hear of Dr. Thomas J. Borody?

Well, he is an internationally renowned Australian physician-scientist who probably should have been awarded at least one Nobel science/medicine Prize, by now, for his ‘heretical’ work that completely overturned the longstanding “Settled Science” medical dogma that peptic ulcers were caused by “stress”, and could only be ‘managed’ [not cured] with antacids, H2-histamine blockers, and a lower stress lifestyle.

Dr. Borody discovered and proved that peptic ulcers were in fact caused by a chronic infection of the stomach lining, by an acid-tolerant bacterium, Hemophilus pylori. Furthermore Borody demonstrated that the ulcer-causing H. pylori infection was eminently curable mainly with inexpensive widely available antibiotics, allowing peptic ulcer lesions to heal over completely and permanently.

Doctors widely scoffed and heaped scorn on Borody’s ‘bacterial’ peptic ulcer theory and simple cheap cure, but the gastroenterology specialty gradually came around to accepting and finally embracing his treatment after his results were replicated in numerous independent trials.

Big pharma like SKF (makers of the then blockbuster peptic ulcer management drug TAGAMET (cimetidine)) were among the last to grudgingly accept the validity of Borody’s revolutionary ulcer cure, which had effectively killed SKF’s ulcer management (not cure) drug Tagamet cash cow.

More recently Borody has followed up with the discovery of /successful treatments for analogous bacterial (a harmful anaerobic bugs Clostridium difficile and certain “MAP” bird-spread mycobacterium species in the colon) infections that underlie the majority of Crohn’s disease/”irritable bowel syndrome” (IBS) cases.

Like Borody’s earlier discovery, this novel iconoclastic disease etiology paradigm and antibiotic/normal bowel flora restoration treatment approach,

completely upended the “Settled Science”, namely that auto-immune and food allergy related factors were the main causes behind Crohn’s disease/IBS. This dogma was long taught by medical schools, and long served as mechanistic basis for development pricey Big pharma “magic bullet” blockbuster Crohn’s/IBS immune system-targeting small molecule drugs and biologics like Abbott’s HUMIRA, which again just *manage/reduce* symptoms, not cure the condition itself. Borody proved Crohn's disese can be cured by his approach:

So here is another example of Borody developing a revolutionary *curative* therapy using inexpensive widely available repurposed existing drugs, which largely disabled an existing Big Pharma Golden Egg-laying Goose.

Thus it is not hard to understand why Big pharma might not be too thrilled by Borody’s other upcoming discoveries and treatments, nor why they would ever strongly endorse and give wide recognition and awards for the long list of Dr, Borody’s ground-breaking medical science achievements,

which thus far have added much more *red* than black to Big Pharma’s bottom line.

This all is a lead-up to Borody’s recent work on repurposing safe, inexpensive, widely-available and effective (at worst, with very low potential to cause covid patients harm) treatment approaches that are broadly accessible to the majority of the world’s population. (7:46 min)

Sadly and strangely, but no longer surprisingly, Borody and like-minded clinicians and scientists working toward these goals, are by turns ignored, ridiculed, dismissed and censored, by the MSM, Google MINITRUTH, and the exalted/ anointed high priests and dispensers of the *Settled COVID Science TRUTH*.”>Why won’t they listen?

Posted by: gm | Jan 4 2021 20:30 utc | 147

Alastair Crooke muses about the sundering of Two Unions--the European and American--while he ought to have added a third: The UK's.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 4 2021 20:33 utc | 148

Err.. H. pylori = Helicobacter (not Hemophilus) pylori

Posted by: gm | Jan 4 2021 20:35 utc | 149

gm #148

Thank you for your post. Borody is a legend.
Another approach to regulating the abundance intestinal parasites and unwelcome gut bugs is papaya seeds well chewed and swallowed (hot like pepper) and also wormwood. These have been used for centuries with excellent results. I have used both in certain circumstances with immediate results for self and many others. They are good for keeping laying hens in good shape as well thus attenuating the transmission cycle.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 4 2021 20:51 utc | 150

@148 gm

Thx. As a sufferer of Crohn's, I am currently trialing the pre/pro biotic approach by fermenting raw dairy milk into kefir. I have yet to brew my first batch, but am in the process.

I have already noticed a significant increase in strength just by drinking a couple glasses of raw milk daily, itself, (although as of yet I have been scattershot with the's the holidays!) and am hoping that Kefir will speed up the process of reestablishing my diminished healthy gut biome.

Coincidentally, my gastro doc wants to increase the dosage of the anti-tnf infusion therapy I am on currently as well as upping the dosage of an antibody suppressing medication.

I am going to call their office and tell them no. I am hoping to get off the expensive infusion treatment, but we shall see how a focused dietary regimen improves my overall health.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 4 2021 21:23 utc | 151

gm #148

I should add that if papaya seed is too hot for children's taste then dry seeds on a plate for a few days in a breezy window sill then grind to a grit/powder and add a teaspoon to yoghurt or whatever and voila!

I have done this for minimising H.Pylori for a child who could not stomach the antibiotics and GP was not a fan of overuse. Did formal stool test either side of the papaya treatment and the results were immediate destruction of the H.pylori. The GP was mighty pleased to have been part of that solution. Nil return in years for that gal and immediate wellbeing in all senses of the word. Once the body has restored order to gut bacteria it can maintain it but it needs a little help from the mouth :)

These days AFAIK practitioners are cautious of antibiotics for H.pylori as they are of dubious effect and akin to smashing fleas with a mallet. Mind you I am a firm believer in antibiotics when needed - they are often life savers.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 4 2021 21:49 utc | 152

@Nemesiscalling #131
Your argument is nothing more than that: an argument.
Few people of scientific bent dispute that even a moderately effective will reduce transmissibility periods, because it shortens the time in which the immune system responds.
So unless you want to say the COVID vaccines literally don't do anything, I am not going to bother arguing with you - particularly given your well documented anti-vax views.
Nor am I particularly for or against mandating COVID vaccination. Among other things: in the US, it is never going to happen because a mandate would also require that the vaccine be free. The for-profit health companies are never going to stand for that.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 4 2021 22:06 utc | 153

@Formerly T-Bear #144
Re: xitches - agreed.
Re: mass election fraud - I can't say if it did or did not occur in the 2020 US Presidential election.
I can say that the detailed reports I have seen regarding Dominion machine forensic analysis were uniformly written by people who are not competent in digital forensic analysis.
Just because someone is "ex-military intelligence" or whatever does not make them a competent digital forensic expert. The clear lack of understanding of the systems, the artifacts touted as "evidence" and also glaring lack of objectivity made every one of the reports I saw, invalid.
Secondly, there were a number of canvassing efforts made - to be clear, this is where some subset of votes is physically double-checked with the voter. None of these have shown any significant level of variance.
Lastly, the above opinion isn't just my own. A number of other credible experts in digital forensics, including the recently fired ex-CISA Krebs, have noted the same thing.
The thing that people don't understand is that the US election systems are an incredibly hodge podge mess. Even a deliberate attempt to tamper is incredibly difficult to do and even more difficult to hide because of the half-assed nature of the people and the physical/digital systems.
The assertion that Dominion did it at the top level is pernicious because it means there can be no lower level detection; whatever occurred prior to the summations can be simply ignored.
Yet extraordinary assertions require extraordinary proof that I have yet to see - but there is still ongoing work on this.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 4 2021 22:14 utc | 154

@uncle tungsten #146
Useful idiots come in all kinds of varieties.
What most people think of first is the useful idiot spouting what you want said, but don't want to be seen saying it.
The yakity in question is a different type: issues anchoring. This is where a loudmouth, extreme radical, whatever spouts nonsense which nobody agrees with, but is still useful because it can shift the "middle ground" towards the side desired.
The problem, though, is that this only works if the other side doesn't already have a firm position or a firm grasp on what is going on.
There is little that is more sad than an anchor that accomplishes nothing because they don't understand this key fact.
It is best in those cases if they're truly stupid - literal idiots.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 4 2021 22:19 utc | 155

@ c1ue | Jan 4 2021 22:14 utc | 155

Thank you for the reply. What concerns are the reports, early on of 'glitches' transferring votes that being corrected shift the outcome for some district. A careful audit of all places to assure the sum of votes is equal to actual voters regardless of voting means e.g. mail-in, in person, absentee, etc is observed wherever that machine and system was used. In other words, a clean bill of health is made by an independent and competent certifying commission. Same approach for investigating written affidavits of perceived aberrations of process; settled by an agreement between competing political representatives as likely explanation of affidavit's originator's observation. Costly as these would be, the cost to the integrity of the process is even greater, neither democratic nor res publica systems can exist without such trust being complete and sound. That all deciding states had issues either with machine or programming or of assuring the validity of mail-in voting policies will cloud the election's results that require careful audit for certification. This is one problem an easy answer will not work I fear, there is no royal road out to meet specified constitutional requirements regarding elections; these are what count at the end of the day. The constitution does provide relief should required qualifications not be met and have been used early on in the country's history and should have been used in much more recent history but weren't.
Thanks for indulging this observation; living in interesting times is interesting, no?

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Jan 4 2021 23:36 utc | 156

What vaccine trials? The most important, meaningful phase of CV-19 vaccine trials has barely begun, let alone been completed (Iain Davis, Off-Guardian)

"People genuinely appear to believe that the COVID 19 vaccines have undergone clinical trials and have been proven to be both safe and effective. That belief is simply wrong.

"The main point is this. If you decide to have Pfizer and BioNTech’s experimental mRNA-based BNT162b2 (BNT) vaccine, or any other claimed COVID 19 vaccine for that matter, you are a test subject in a drug trial.

"The mRNA in the BNT vaccine was sequenced from the 3rd iteration of the original WUHAN published Genome SARS-CoV-2 (MN908947.3). However, the WHO protocols Pfizer used to produce the mRNA do not appear to identify any nucleotide sequences that are unique to the SARS-CoV-2 virus. When investigator Fran Leader questioned Pfizer they confirmed: "The DNA template does not come directly from an isolated virus from an infected person."

"Nor are there any completed clinical trials for these vaccines. Trials are ongoing. If you are jabbed with one, you are the guinea pig. This may be fine with you but it’s not a leap of faith I or my loved ones wish to take. However, everyone is different."


The above article is a comprehensive report on the Covid-19 vaccines, concentrating on the Oxford/AstraZeneca and Pfizer/BioNTech vaccines. The article explains that the vaccines have not completed tests and can't be described as safe, that people that receive the vaccine are being used as guinea pigs, that the vaccines are only likely to provide very marginal protection from Covid-19 and that the vaccine risks are likely to be more than the risks of Covid-19.

I know that many on this site will already don't believe any of the above but please read the article.

Posted by: ADKC | Jan 4 2021 23:57 utc | 157

@uncle tungsten | Jan 4 2021 20:51 utc | 151

I have direct recent personal experience with the Borody et al., ivermectin/Zn covid Tx cocktail:

On Christmas Day my wife insisted on having our children, and their families (consisting of 3 households: 11 people total, 5 minors; ages 3-15, 6 adults ages 34-42) come over to our house for gift exchanging, food and drink. Everyone wore masks as much as possible during the ~4 hr gathering. I was the oldest person at the party.

I woke up on the morning of Dec 31 (5.5 days after the Christmas party) with a scratchy sore throat, chills and mild headache. These progressively worsened during the day, and my neck and jaw (muscles, gums and teeth) also became aching. By the late afternoon my chills remained, headache and neck/jaw ache got worse, and sore throat had expanded to cover whole back of my mouth cavity, which now felt swollen.

But I did not have any fever nor digestive tract symptoms at any point (ie. not likely to be food poisoning related).

I figured I was coming down with a virus, and if it was nCoV, it was probably in the early rapid exponential viral replication/growth stage.

Around 6 pm I dosed myself with -0.2 mg/kg of Ivermectin (= 1.0 gram of apple-flavor 1.87% ivermectin horse deworming paste I had bought a couple months prior at the local farm and feed store), 50 mg zinc equivalent (as Zinc gluconate), and 500mg quercetin. I also took another vit C (1000mg) and vit D3 (5000 iu) above and beyond the regular daily C & D supplements I take at breakfast time.

At ~9-10 pm symptoms felt like they were still getting worse; I repeated the Zn/quercetin dose I had take earlier and then went to bed. I soon fell asleep and slept soundly for most of the night, and when I woke up around 3-4 am on Jan 1, the headache, chills and neck/jaw aches were completely gone, and the sore throat had receded to the back corner of one side of my mouth.

I continued to take 50mg Zn /500mg Quercetin, BID, on Jan 1, and throughout the day the residual sore throat gradulully disappeared.

By Jan 2, my sore throat was gone completely. I took one more 0.2 mg/kg ivermectin dose of horse-paste and the same Zn/quercetin dosing as above BID.

On subsequent days I'm doing just the Zn/quercetin dosing (along with regular daily VitC and Vit D supplements) once a day.

None of my flu(?)/covid(?) symptoms have reappeared since then. blood oxygen = 98% by pulse oximeter.

My experience is anecdotal of course; no other family members who were at the Christmas party, including wife ever came down with symptoms like I had.

Son and daughter-in-law who were at party had a pcr test done yesterday and got back results this afternoon: They both came back negative (-).

Take of it what you will. It is a true story.

Posted by: gm | Jan 5 2021 0:12 utc | 158

Addendum to gm/159:

I forgot to mention that on Jan 31 I washed the horse-paste and other the meds down with two light beers.

Posted by: gm | Jan 5 2021 0:29 utc | 159

@142 William Gruff & 145 karlof1

Regarding corporations being enslaved in China - the well known Social Credit system that China has pioneered is also applied to companies, and this is where the metrics of good behavior really start to show visible, material benefits.

The original article on this is Russian and will require translation:
China's corporate social rating system: a librarian's dream

But I'm going from a Facebook post by Rebecca Chan to the "21SilkRd" group, which doesn't require an account to view.

Excerpts from her excerpts:

The Chinese social credit system is a large accounting system that brings together information about various public and private companies.


* For example, a company that will be blacklisted by the Ministry of Agriculture will face fines or punishments in 25 different departments. The Ministry of Natural Resources may impose restrictions on the use of public lands, and the People's Bank of China (NBK) or the Securities Regulation Commission may prohibit issuing shares and bonds of the company.

* On the other hand, a logistics firm from the Red List of the Ministry of Transport will have access to 63 advantages: from accelerated import licenses and export from the Ministry of Trade to preferential access to financing from the People's Bank of China.
- Rebecca Chan at 21SilkRd - January 1, 2021

China is a leader in regulatory technology, and while this system is an organic part of China's idea of keeping companies regulated for the greater good of society AND commerce through a meritocratic reward system, the Chinese also view this strategically as their competitor to the western ratings agencies. Being newer, and Chinese, it is also far superior to Moody's etc, and will in my view supplant these primitive ratings globally over time.

The Russian article is worth a full read for those interested.

Posted by: Grieved | Jan 5 2021 1:17 utc | 160

Below is an English translation of the Russian article that Grieved linked to in comment # 161

When the New Year is approaching, many children wonder which list of Santa Claus they got: naughty or diligent guys. And large Chinese companies are interested in whether they entered the top 8 best firms of the year or were included in the list of 42 outsiders.

At the end of 2020, the first stage of development of the Chinese corporate social credit system, which is also called the "social rating system", will be completed. It is expected that new information will soon appear that will shed light on this system in the future.

The report from the Chinese strategic research firm Trivium presented one of the most balanced and comprehensive views on emerging technologies. Below is what we learned from the report:

The main conclusion: corporate social credit is not as complex and unusual as it seems. This is a giant corporate registry with a record of all violations. The system is still under development, but most of it is already operational and responsible for a wide range of corporate activities. There are few signs of discrimination against foreign companies, but the authorities are showing global ambitions in introducing this innovation, including with the participation of financial markets.
Brief chronology from the report:

1999: A research team from the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences proposed a "National Credit Management System" as a solution to market imperfections.
2000: The development of the social credit system is discussed at the annual meeting of the Chinese authorities.
2002: an updated 1999 version says that loans are probably the right path to a stable economy and a socialist society in general. The updated document was also considered rules of the United States credit and financial risk assessment.
2003: Shanghai launches social rating pilot project.
2014: Chinese authorities officially begin work on the social credit system and create a 15-year plan for its development. It was decided to create black and red lists, as well as a system of fines.
2015: The State Council approved the creation of a national unified system of social credit for legal entities and companies. Business registration numbers are replaced with a single social credit identifier — a unique number that is issued to each company to link the system account. This is the beginning of creating a legal framework for the development of the corporate social credit system.
2016-2018: most black and red lists are created.
2019: The State Council calls on the authorities to speed up the implementation of the corporate social credit system. Algorithms for regulating the system are created.
Real problems: The Trivium-USCC report states that the social credit system emerged as a response to real compliance problems. Companies often ignored court orders, and even if they faced real consequences, management could simply leave the debt-ridden firm and open a new one. A document from 1999, which proposed the creation of a social credit system, referred to this problem. Experts noted that a significant part of violations goes unnoticed, and people do not bear any responsibility. The system was designed to name, shame and punish companies and their management for violations. To this day, China's biggest blacklist is considered to be the list of debtors of the Supreme Court.

A librarian's Dream
The Chinese social credit system is a large accounting system that combines information about various public and private companies.

Data: For each company, there is a folder with a set of documents that is tracked and managed by a special identification number.

The folder contains all the important information about the company: share capital, annual reports, corporate structure, etc.
Various government departments at all levels contribute additional information: tax reports, personnel composition (including information on how many party members work for the company), the presence of lawsuits and new strategies for working with competitors.
Information received from government agencies is the basis of the company's reporting. As of 2016, the system contains more than 400 categories, and this list may be updated in the near future.
Chinese authorities are also agitating non-governmental organizations to provide their data to the system. However, this part of the social credit system has not yet been fully defined.
"In most cases, the provision of data is a voluntary desire," the Trivium report explains.
Access: Most of the data collected by the system is published through online credit platforms such as Credit China or Tianyancha.

Trivium estimates that about 75% of the data collected by government agencies is intended for public access. The National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) has created an online platform where public information can be viewed.
Work in progress: interaction between agencies remains incomplete, so the system does not cover the full scope of the national platform's capabilities, said Louise Kinzius, project manager at Sinolytics, a Berlin-based consulting firm that helps foreign companies navigate Chinese politics.

A lot of information goes from the bottom up, from local authorities to the national platform.
"China's social credit system is a bit of a puzzle. Something is constantly changing and modernizing, " Kendra Schaefer, lead author of the Trivium report and head of the firm's technical policy research department, told TechNode.
Trivium found that 89% of customs blacklist entries are publicly available on the Credit China platform. For comparison, the Ministry of Transport has 25% available, and the Ministry of Industry and Information has 20% of records.
The Trivium report says that Shanghai is leading the way in the reasonableness and completeness of the credit system. At the end of 2018, local authorities had centralized data from 88 government agencies and 11.3 million companies.
Carrot and stick
The corporate social credit system is not just about data accounting. The system creates incentives for compliance. The platform has two control systems: rewards and punishments. Companies are controlled through black and red lists, as well as a points system.

Lists: government agencies can put companies on the black list or on its opposite — the red list. The first one is for violations, and the second one is for successes and achievements. If a company is included in one of the lists, it is reflected in its social rating system.

Louise Kinzius says blacklists are much more common than red ones. In China, much attention is paid to identifying violations.
However, red lists are also necessary, as they create a new type of thinking that has a beneficial effect on compliance with the requirements of the system.
All lists are controlled by interdepartmental disciplinary bodies. Some managers have concluded contracts in such a way that a violation in one point will lead to punishment by a number of departments.
For example, a company that is blacklisted by the Ministry of Agriculture will face fines or penalties in 25 different departments. The Ministry of Natural Resources can impose restrictions on the use of public land, and the People's Bank of China (PBOC) or the Securities Regulatory Commission can prohibit the issuance of shares and bonds of the company.
On the other hand, a logistics firm on the Ministry of Transport's red list will have access to 63 benefits, from expedited import and export licenses from the Ministry of Commerce to preferential access to financing from the People's Bank of China.
Personal responsibility: The corporate social credit system links the behavior of key employees to the company's rating. Employees can receive a fine if the company is blacklisted. Also, the success of the company is directly influenced by the people who work in it. But these connections only exist in very specific areas, in part because the personal social credit system is not as developed as the corporate social credit system, Kinzius said.

To get into the red list of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, the company should not have any penalties for the last 3 years. In order for a firm to receive high scores from customs, key employees of the company must not have criminal records.
One American company was banned from participating in the trade show because the firm's management was blacklisted for legal violations unrelated to the company, Trivium explained to TechNode.
Ratings: The corporate social credit system includes several types of ratings designed to use government data provided by various government agencies and some private entities. These include both letter ratings and numeric scores. The assessment consists of several points, which are related to whether the company complies with standard requirements. This analysis is performed automatically, as opposed to data collection.

According to Kinzius, getting the lowest or highest rating can lead to the same consequences as getting on one of the lists and even sanctions.
Some ratings are national, such as the rating of companies building waterways and roads compiled by the Ministry of Transport. Others are being created by local authorities, such as the hospital assessment system, the Trivium report says.
Agencies also evaluate companies on the quality of their products and services. Many of them are compiled by industry associations based on government data.
Financial credit scores are awarded by licensed credit rating agencies.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 5 2021 2:08 utc | 161

@162 psychohistorian

I thought that piece would interest you, glad you caught it, and thanks for the translation.

China has created a persistent and sustainable control mechanism that prohibits the evils of oligarchy, as Jack Ma has been finding out recently. There's no way that private finance or private business can rise above the public state in China now.


If only our predecessors had been able to create such mechanisms when they formed this Union of the States. It's very clear that they wanted to, but the ways to do it were not available to them, I think.

The more I watch China go up and the United States come down, the more I think what a damn shame it is that the country I live in is of less and less usefulness for its citizens to live a decent life. What's the point of having a country if it doesn't operate to allow you to live a life of value?

The question goes beyond theory or principle and becomes increasingly existential. I suspect millions more feel a similar way.

And this is partly to the credit of the Demonstration Effect of China and a few other places. We know there is a better way to live, and we're not getting it.

Posted by: Grieved | Jan 5 2021 2:32 utc | 162

Excellent article on the USA and the Blob by a former Italian diplomat:

Posted by: bevin | Jan 5 2021 2:39 utc | 163

Posted by: karlof1 # 132

One unmentioned fact about the Outlaw US Empire's failure to contain the virus is the utter lack of motivation to do just that by Trump and what certainly appeared to be behavior of an oppositional sort to doing anything whatsoever.

You harp on Trump's doing nothing, but i'm of a mind there was nothing he could do but huddle in secrecy behind closed doors, with his clueless advisors. I caught this covid last January. Started as a chest cold and remained a chest cold for two weeks, altho it took another month to shake the cough completely. I know it was covid, because of how winded i was mowing my grass and other strenuous exercises during the spring summer and fall. The recovery from that is slow, but it is slowly getting better. Anyway, it's also my belief that covid19 has been spreading throughout the washington dc area where i live, since June of '19, when it was killing residents at an upscale retirement community called Greenspring, in Springfield, Va., which is ten miles south of Ft. Detrick, in Md. That base was closed the following month, because of pathogens escaping from their waste system. The point i'm trying to make is if covid had been spreading for at least seven months prior to China taking action, what was he to do? What would you have done, especially if your aides dropped this 'live exercise' in your lap, for the first time in January? I'd imagine closing the doors and meeting in secrecy, you?

Posted by: aye, myself & me | Jan 5 2021 2:41 utc | 164

Hey looky here!

All Living Retired Pooh-Bahs of the Deepstate Borg Continuum Warn Trump: Resistance IS FUTILE. You WILL be Assimilated

I don't know...all in all... it sounds like the Dark Side may be getting kind of nervous about what might be coming up with Trump in next few coming days...

Maybe, since I'm feeling pretty good right now, my feisty little dog and I might just drive down to DC to see what is going to happen this Wednesday...

Posted by: gm | Jan 5 2021 3:39 utc | 165

Below is a quote from the beginning of a Reuters posting

(Reuters) -The New York Stock Exchange said it no longer intends to delist three Chinese telecom giants that have been targeted by U.S. President Donald Trump’s outgoing administration, in a shock reversal of an announcement made only last week.

The exchange said in a statement it had made the decision “in light of further consultation with relevant regulatory authorities.”

And then another short posting about the guy who supposedly didn't start any wars
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration announced on Monday that it has made final its plan to open up vast areas of once-protected Arctic Alaska territory to oil development.

The U.S. Bureau of Land Management released its plan for the National Petroleum Reserve in Alaska (NPR-A), a 23 million-acre swath of land on the western North Slope. The record, signed by Interior Secretary David Bernhardt on Dec. 21, allows lease sales to proceed under relaxed standards.

The decision is one of a number of pro-drilling actions taken by the Trump administration in its final days. On Wednesday, the bureau is scheduled to auction off drilling rights in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge on the eastern North Slope.

The plan allows oil development on about 80 percent of the reserve. Under Obama-era rules, about half of the reserve was available for leasing, with the other half protected for environmental and indigenous reasons.

And finally, also related to that champion of no new wars
NEW YORK (Reuters) - A U.S. judge on Monday blocked the Trump administration from sanctioning human rights lawyers for supporting the work of the world’s war crimes tribunal, the International Criminal Court.

U.S. District Judge Katherine Polk Failla in Manhattan issued a preliminary injunction against the White House from imposing criminal or civil penalties against four law professors under an executive order from President Donald Trump last June.

Trump had authorized economic and travel sanctions against employees of the Hague-based ICC and anyone supporting its work, including a probe into whether U.S. forces committed war crimes in Afghanistan between 2003 and 2014.


I heard there is a new ringleader coming soon to lead the shit show circus for the next 4 years. A more kinder and gentler race to the bottom than the past 4 years but no change in course, I expect.....but all those new age further atomized polygender neutral folks will feel empowered but remain totally ignorant of the cult of global private finance that own their ass....and their brains.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 5 2021 7:03 utc | 166

Not tonight, Mike! Moscow mocks Pompeo, comparing him to Napoleon after bizarre ‘Russia, Russia, Russia’ tweet salvo

Posted by: Mao | Jan 5 2021 7:48 utc | 167

Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s interview with TASS News Agency, December 30, 2020

Posted by: Mao | Jan 5 2021 8:01 utc | 168

So, the FDA now
FDA Admits PCR Tests Give False Results, Prepares Ground For Biden To "Crush" Casedemic

Let's see, given that these fake PCR counts were known all along by the fraudsters, does that mean those losing their businesses to questionable lock downs can bring up class action suits against the Faucis, the FDA, the CDC, WHO and whoever knowingly defrauded people of their livelyhoods through spurious lock downs?

Posted by: Bluedotterel | Jan 5 2021 8:20 utc | 169

South Korea wants their tanker back badly, it seems:

South Korea is sending military forces to respond to the seizure of one of its tankers by Iran, a South Korean defense official told Newsweek. Seoul is also seeking help from other countries to deal with the situation, possibly the US, a sign that already high US-Iran tensions could escalate further.
A South Korean defense ministry official told Newsweek that Seoul had “sent anti-piracy troops near the Strait of Hormuz for the ROK [Republic of Korea] oil tanker directly.”

To hear tell it, it's like SK is going to fetch the tanker from the Iranians with a posse'!

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jan 5 2021 8:22 utc | 170

gm #159 #160

Great story and thank you. I like the beer touch. Note to self: examine hops as a curative.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 5 2021 8:36 utc | 171

Posted by: Grieved | Jan 5 2021 2:32 utc | 163

There's something really, really unspeakably dumb whenever capital-less pretend bourgeois rush to defend their oh-so-oppressed billionaire superheroes when rightfully targeted by public interests.

Posted by: J W | Jan 5 2021 10:28 utc | 172

Not even a ‘highly likely’? Cybersecurity group admits SolarWinds hack came FROM WITHIN THE US, but doubles down on blaming Russia

The mega-hack, which affected 250 networks including US government agencies, went undetected by Washington’s security systems because it originated within the US, FireEye told the New York Times.


Even the usual Russia hawks were baffled at why the Kremlin would go through all the trouble of infiltrating stateside servers only to – as far as experts can tell – take nothing and leave the system itself intact. “We still don’t know what Russia’s strategic objectives were,” former DHS official Suzanne Spaulding told the New York Times on Sunday – apparently unwilling to consider the heretical notion that Russia might not be the culprit.

So, apparently, I was right all along: this was just another defective Made in America product that failed and, to save face (and stock market prices), the company initially blamed a foreign nation.

Posted by: vk | Jan 5 2021 11:28 utc | 173

Posted by: Grieved | Jan 5 2021 2:32 utc | 163 -- "What's the point of having a country if it doesn't operate to allow you to live a life of value.... to the credit of the Demonstration Effect of China and a few other places.... We know there is a better way to live, and we're not getting it."

If governance is not FOR the people, what's the point of living in an exceptional nation? or an indispensable nation? or a freedom-loving nation? If I am a young American today, I would go live elsewhere. The world is large, and the US is small.

Jack Ma's current problem shows how the CPC balances his rights as a single human being against the rights of 1,000,000,000 other human beings. If the CPC allows Jack Ma to eventually control a large enough portion of the national payments system, then, whether intentionally or not, he becomes a de facto usurper of China's Reserve Bank. If Jack then sells control of his company to an enemy of China.....

So, in that case, what's good for Jack is not be good for 1,000,000,000 Chinese.

Such are the considerations of good governance, not that we are expert proponents, but that we glimpse snippets of good practice when we learn to read between the lines on the world stage.

[ Incidentally, when I asked that proven idiot, Antonym, a similar governance question juxtaposing Modi's personal interest versus 1,000,000,000 Indian citizens' best interests, he shifted goal posts. Not once, but twice. But he is going to come back here to shout Tibet !!! ]

Posted by: kiwiklown | Jan 5 2021 11:30 utc | 174

@Formerly T-Bear #157
I fully agree - there need to be full audits sufficient to either prove, or lay to rest, the allegations of electronic fraud at the tabulated vote level. The work done to date has not shown significant fraud at the collected vote level, albeit a couple of "likely" small scale instances.
Otherwise, as you note, failure to do so will damage faith in the integrity of the vote and by extension, the entire US political system.
The problem ultimately, IMO, is that the Constitution left the method of voting process to each individual state. As I've noted in other posts: if a state decides to choose its electors via darts thrown at a piece of paper on the wall, that is fine so long as the state legislature approves it.
Even within any approved system, there are certainly means by which the bureaucrats in the state and local system can skew the election outcome to some degree.
I am far less sanguine about any real "reform" happening. Both Republican and Democrat parties abuse the system - just in different parts of the country. There's simply too much economic benefit to political outcomes for this to be anything else. Nor is this effectively 2 party system particularly welcoming or inclusive of 3rd parties...
So yes, interesting times.
Still, it is even further from clarity that the outrage over this latest election translates into action as opposed to rhetoric.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 5 2021 12:01 utc | 175

Ex-chairman of Huarong sentenced to death for taking $277 million bribes

In China, capitalists really go to jail and are sentenced to death.

Posted by: vk | Jan 5 2021 12:10 utc | 176

@Grieved #163
I would note that the social credit system, the reining in of the Ant IPO, etc are the outcomes of a political class which has clear goals of its own as opposed to being finger puppets of donors.
Or put in other words: the US has had political action taken for the good of the nation as opposed to the donor class before: Jackson, Theodore Roosevelt, Franklin Delano Roosevelt principal among them.
Jackson did it largely because he was an outsider made good and was well known as a very hot-tempered, grudge holding person who had a huge grudge against the banksters.
Theodore Roosevelt got elected largely because of epic levels of donor class financing - particularly the insurance industry. It is a testament to his character that he cracked down on that practice once he got into office.
And Franklin Delano Roosevelt explicitly told the donor classes: either you reform or the country becomes communist.
Unfortunately, there does not seem to be any possibility of a reprise of any of these types of Presidents. The federal bureaucracy has enormous influence over actual policy action - the ongoing games played to keep US troops in a number of places is just one of the more blatant examples.
China is different because it is still the generation (and its immediate successor generation) that is still in charge.
Whether this holds up, only time will tell.
Regardless - what the CPC has accomplished this past 35+ years is epic.
The reason the US is gearing up against China is because this rise is giving a counterpoint to 30 years of US propaganda that liberal democracy is what yields prosperity. The same could be said for "free markets".
This is an intolerably negative comparison for the US political class: while China was rising, the US has been falling.
The person on the street generally doesn't care who is in titular charge so long as things are going ok to good; they get angry when things are going badly - and life has not been good for the non-PMC, non-welfare state American for a long, long time.
Inflation adjusted wages for American men have been flat for over 25 years; household income was flat from 2000 to 2018; and overall 1.2% annual growth from 1973 to 2018 vs. inflation average of 3.9% over the same period.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 5 2021 12:25 utc | 177

Scott Ritter thinks it quite plausible that Russia is behind the Solarwinds hack (google cache because Responsible Statecraft immediately removed it from their site):">">

Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Jan 5 2021 13:35 utc | 178

@ Posted by: frtitzcat | Jan 5 2021 13:24 utc | 179

I see you didn't read the article I linked.

Here you go:

Lai Xiaomin, former chairman of China Huarong Asset Management Co [...]

The money and other assets that he received in the form of bribes, as well as any bank interests arising from them, would be sought and recovered before being turned over to the state coffers, according to the verdict.

Lai was found to have taken advantage of his positions to help other entities and individuals with fund-raising, contracting projects, running enterprises, getting promotions and job transfers between 2008 and 2018, according to the court.

The situation is clear: he was a CEO who was helping capitalists infiltrated and leech from public funds in order to weaken the State and strengthen the private sector. He was a double agent of the capitalist class by all intents and purposes.

And you have to think the situation dialectically: the same CPC you claim is corrupt beyond repair is the CPC that hunted down and executed "one of its own", and, more importantly, returned what he stole to the public coffers.

Posted by: vk | Jan 5 2021 14:48 utc | 179

@frtitzcat #177
You misread what I wrote.
The CPC leadership is the least corrupt among the major economies in the entire world today, certainly as judged by the improvement in their nation's and population's well being.
The reason is because the leadership in China is still the same generation as founded that state.
As for why: I don't agree with your view of China's leadership as that of "cult of personality". It was true in Mao's time but that was mostly due to sheer baraka of what he and his compatriots accomplished - not a built-in feature of the polity.
The US and its agitprop legions are trying their best to paint China's government as "cult of personality", but the reality is much more complex.
China has serious issues coming down the road. The baby boom arising from Mao's ending years and exacerbated by the "one child" policy presents clear issues in the future - but the working generations today are a problem now. So is China's need to feed and protect itself despite not having much in the way of natural resources.
Nor is the Chinese "man on the street" is not the self-effacing Confucian ideal of old. Between the severance with the past (the most extreme example being the Cultural Revolution) and the lack of consistent replacement with their childhood years (communist egalitarianism changed to capitalism minus) there is very little social and emotional maturity.
The CPC and Chinese government have to govern this unruly mass. There are lots of riots in China despite all the supposed government control. It is not Lord of the Flies, but not totally dissimilar.
Put another way: the government in China acts in no small part because of fear of what the uncontrolled mob would do were it not insulated from the full 1st world social media and mainstream media nonsense.
This fear also exists should the China social contract is broken: that full civil liberties are in abeyance so long as China's economy and Chinese lifestyles continue to improve.

Isn't this exactly what we all want government to do: to live in fear of the people and act to improve their well being?

Thus while there is certainly a danger of the ongoing guangxi morphing into a kleptocracy - at the same time, China doesn't exhibit any of the characteristics typical of 3rd world banana republics or even corrupt Western democracies - both groups of which are clearly no longer (or were never) primarily interested in the well being of the majority of their citizens.

Show me a 3rd world nation or Western democracy that executes oligarchs for failing to meet the government's mandates.
What elite turnover occurs in 3rd world banana republics, occurs only due to outright rebellion, while the Western democracies enshrine corruption into their "rule of law".

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 5 2021 15:04 utc | 180

Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Jan 5 2021 13:35 utc | 180

The problem is that it is quite plausible that just about anybody was behind the hack, i.e. they have no clue who did it and their security was and is a joke. That's the secret here.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 5 2021 15:07 utc | 181

@Tuyzentfloot #180
Scott Ritter is being imprecise.
The Solarwinds incident is really 2 different ones: the initial penetration of one or more servers followed by ongoing exploitation, and then the insertion of a supply chain attack on the Solarwinds software.

Part 1: Solarwinds had/has crap security. As b noted in this original article, there were a number of dark web and other reports of server access, years ago. It is thus not at all clear that the initial breach was Russia.

Part 2: Exploitation and malware insertion. This is more plausibly Russian - but attribution of malware is notoriously unreliable and difficult. Anyone who says for sure, other than the actual authors, is really just guessing.

What we do know is: despite the unprecedented access to all 5 US military branches and pretty much every US department of note, no actual damage occurred. This means this is an espionage event.

Espionage is not cyber-war. It is not cyber Pearl Harbor. It is what the US, the other Western democracies and Five Eyes do every second of every day.

What is particularly interesting about all this is that the US spends likely 10x or more on cyber than Russia, China, or probably the rest of the world put together much as it spends more on physical military defense than the next 10 or 20 nations in the world. And yet nobody had any idea this was going on - it took an external cyber company reviewing its internal security after a major reported weakness (likely the VMWare bug) to kick everything off.

Where was the vaunted "Defense Forward"?

Where were the moles, traitors and other humint supposedly able to identify the specific individuals in buildings in Moscow and Beijing?

Where were the sensors, taps and what not which the US is known to install on major internet backbones and hubs, worldwide?

This is the cyber equivalent of hypersonic weapons.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 5 2021 15:37 utc | 182

Rather characteristic comment on the sun setting over Trump (let golf courses be gentle on him) Administration.

Even Republicans Defying Trump Won't Level With Voters
By A.B. StoddardJanuary 05, 2021, RCP (a conservative but balanced news aggregator)

When pressed about a lack of evidence, as Sen. Ron Johnson was on “Meet the Press” Sunday, many Trump enablers will say they have to do this for voters who don’t believe the election results because, well, the media lacks credibility and the Democrats “never accepted” Trump’s 2016 election. Sure, Democrats who called Trump an illegitimate president from the get-go most certainly damaged faith in our electoral system these last four years. But Hillary Clinton didn’t question one state’s counts or sovereignty, and the undeniable influence of Russia in helping Trump’s campaign was confirmed by every intelligence agency in our government.


This is what I call true spirit of moderation. Oppose bull... -- say balderdash. So opposition to Trumpian balderdash, and pro-Trump (like Sen. Cruz), a note taken of Democratic balderdash, and explaining why the latter was more tolerable. But lest we go to extreme, some balderdash has to be mentioned as "undeniable". In older days, Stoddard would add that Carthage should be destroyed.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jan 5 2021 15:58 utc | 183

@ Posted by: c1ue | Jan 5 2021 15:37 utc | 185

See my linked article @ 174. They clearly state nothing was stolen from FireEye.

Posted by: vk | Jan 5 2021 16:22 utc | 184

@vk #187
Frankly, I would not take anything FireEye says for truth in and of itself.
I cofounded a company with someone who was a senior director in a company acquired by FireEye, and have worked with many ex-FireEye employees as well.
FireEye is a company built for stock price, not for technology.
Secondly, I never said anything was stolen from FireEye positively or negatively.
What I said is that the Solarwinds attack is pretty clearly espionage. Espionage has many forms - only a few of which involve data exfiltration.
Moreover, the reality is that the attack TTP outlined in technical reports so far - the likelihood of small to medium exfiltrations being detected is pretty close to zero. So anyone saying "nothing was taken" at this point in time is full of shit, or a PR person if there is any difference.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 5 2021 16:44 utc | 186

@ Posted by: c1ue | Jan 5 2021 16:44 utc | 189

Read the article.

The information that nothing was stolen didn't come from FireEye, but from DHS official Suzanne Spaulding.

Posted by: vk | Jan 5 2021 16:56 utc | 187

Grieved @161 & psychohistorian @162--

Thanks mightily for that article and its translation!! No wonder the Outlaw US Empire and EU vassals are smearing it!! Western media could've done a similar report but has chosen not to for what ought to be obvious reasons.


aye, myself & me @165--

I'm pleased you recovered, although you continue to have lingering effects. The timelines I have for Trump's behavior begin at the start of his administration with the tax cuts in 2017 followed by the defunding and depopulating of critical agencies that deal with public health. The following and more is found here:

"Trump’s minions cut funding (2) for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the agency tasked with protecting public health in the face of the opiate epidemic, AIDS, flu, and infectious outbreaks....

"On February 1, 2018, the Washington Post reported that “CDC to cut by 80 percent efforts to prevent global disease outbreak” (6): “The global health section of the CDC was so drastically cut in 2018 that much of its staff was laid off (7) and the number of countries it was working in was reduced from 49 to merely 10. (8) Meanwhile, throughout 2018, the U.S. Agency for International Development and its director, Mark Green, came repeatedly under fire from both the White House and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. (9) And though Congress has so far managed to block Trump administration plans to cut the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps by 40 percent (10), the disease-fighting cadres have steadily eroded as retiring officers go unreplaced.” (11)

"On April 10, 2018, Trump hired John Bolton, one of the architects of George W. Bush’s invasion of Iraq, as his National Security Adviser. Bolton in turn fired Homeland Security advisor Tom Bossert (12), whom the Washington Post reported “had called for a comprehensive biodefense strategy against pandemics and biological attacks.”

"On April 17, 2018, at a bio-defense summit, Health and Human Services secretary Alex Azar said, "Of course, the thing that people ask: 'What keeps you most up at night in the biodefense world?' Pandemic flu, of course. I think everyone in this room probably shares that concern."

That timeline was published in April 2020 and it's quite likely more info could be added. TrumpCo deliberately weakened the nation's ability to respond to a pandemic well before it began, and that's been the core of my Treason charge against TrumpCo ever since.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 5 2021 16:59 utc | 188

Iran's seizure of an RoK tanker has an interesting twist:

"Speaking on Tuesday, Iranian government spokesman, Ali Rabiei told reporters that South Korea was the party guilty of 'hostage taking' and not Iran.

“'We’ve become used to such allegations ... but if there is any hostage taking, it is Korea’s government that is holding $7 billion which belongs to us hostage on baseless grounds,' Rabiei told reporters at a news conference streamed live online.

"Iranian media reported that Seoul had frozen several billion dollars in Iranian money and refused to transfer it to Tehran under the pretext of complying with US sanctions on Iran.

"Rabiei insisted that Iran’s seizure of a South Korean flagged tanker on Monday was because it violated environmental protocols and was not related to the $7 billion reportedly held hostage by Seoul."

Seems clear enough to me. RoK froze Iran's money to comply with illegal sanctions, so Iran grabbed one of its tankers and ought to get a few more since that one isn't worth $7 billion.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 5 2021 17:26 utc | 189

karlof1 #193

I guess the south Korean government will reconsider its slavish obedience. One thing is very clear and that is for nations to repatriate all wealth in foriegn banks on a weekly basis. The Global exchange system is looking like a shambles in the making. There is hope though: the Trump clown cart will soon be taken over by Xerxes Biden and his better band of morons so life may get better;]

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 5 2021 17:50 utc | 190

AOC and her squad of gutless sellouts have been renamed the #Fraudsquad by Katie Halper and Jimmy Dore.

I guess the Democratic Socialists of America have little choice but to return to Dimratss party and give up the sham. I am sure they wont be missed.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 5 2021 17:57 utc | 191

Renegade Inc's first program in 2021 has Chris Williamson and Michael Hudson as guests looking back at 2020 and making a few predictions for 2021. Williamson has the first 14 min with Hudson beginning at the 15 min mark. Neither see much positive for 2021 unless you're part of the elite--Veblen's "Vested Interests"--except when it comes to the challenges being made to Neoliberalism by those nations seeking Multipolarity. If you read the current Shadowstats commentary, particularly the sidebar on the Fed's most recent manipulation of monetary metrics, you'll get the gist of Hudson's prognostication--no "recovery" until 2023, with the term recovery being debatable. IMO, far too much of the Real Economy's capital's been eaten by the Parasites and little will be done to move the current Depression from its 1930-33 equivalent. Those that touted Biden are going to be very disappointed and forced onto the defensive when his suggestions and actions fail to do anything positive. Paraphrasing Hudson's closing remarks: The Reds and Blues must come to the realization that they'll never get anywhere by continuing to support either leg of the Duopoly; otherwise, there's no real hope politically. Given his outlook for the Depression's continual toll on states and municipalities, those will become the laboratory for a new politics, which was what occurred during the 1930s and from 1880-1900.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 5 2021 18:28 utc | 192

Thanks @ 196 karlo1 always appreciate your contributions.

Posted by: Thirty | Jan 5 2021 18:33 utc | 193

@Grieved | Jan 5 2021 1:17 utc | 161
@psychohistorian | Jan 5 2021 2:08 utc | 162

Thank you, Grieved, for the pointer to the Russian article on how the Chinese social credit system applies to corporations. Thanks to Psychohistorian for the translation.

If the system works well, it could seriously slow down capitalism's "race to the bottom" logic. In most countries, if a company succeeds in lowering costs by cheating, that would encourage all the other companies in that industry to cheat as well. Thus the following common saying in the US: "If you're not cheating, you're not trying hard enough". Over time, the consequence is that all the products from that industry turn to garbage.

The social credit system should at least slow down the race to the bottom -- but only if it's uncompromised. I hope they use something like blockchain to make it harder to tamper with the database.

Posted by: Cyril | Jan 5 2021 18:36 utc | 194

c1ue @185

“Where were the sensors, taps and whatnot...”

Those were all right where we left them. Nobody was watching. Basic attitude in America is people who build things are heroes. People who maintain things are janitors. We have a lot of self identified heroes and basically no janitors.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 5 2021 19:02 utc | 195

I haven't suggested watching a Keiser Report for awhile, but that ends today with their discussion about the state of the dollar, which like-it-or-not affects everyone on the planet. It's 25 minutes of your time that IMO well be well spent. The discussion on inflation alone is worth listening to. I again suggest reading the sidebar at Shadowstats that details the Feds manipulation of the M1 metric and his continued warning about inflation which the Fed is trying hard to mask.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 5 2021 19:07 utc | 196

TASS's short review of an interview between Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov and journalist Vladimir Solovyov provides this link to its video. Peskov's statements are important and powerful:

"'Our colleagues in the United States have caused such lawlessness in international politics that they just broken all the rules,' he said.

"Responding to a question about the 'red lines' in international diplomacy, Peskov stressed that 'experience shows that there are no such ‘red lines’ left at all.'"

The hour long interview's in Russian with no translation, so I have no idea if it contains more provocative statements. Hopefully, Paco or another of our Russian speaking barflies will watch and provide a synopsis. But just those two bits TASS reported are volatile enough.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 5 2021 19:19 utc | 198

People living within the Outlaw US Empire need to know what the real outcome of Prop22's passing in California means. My action will be to boycott all components of the Albertson's chain and any other company that uses this new "law."

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 5 2021 19:30 utc | 199

@181 frtitzcat

I agree.

The overall gist of what I am detecting here amongst the pro-China, anti-west aging posters is that when it comes to the term "globalist," somehow China should escape this term, even though they are the prime beneficiary, beyond the west's own global elites, of this arrangement.

It must be continually said that Marxism is an offshoot of Hegelianism, a materialist and reactionary attempt to subvert western philosophy entirely.

As it stands, China is an example moreso of the Hegelian dialectical force of history rather than any kind of Marxist one. Even the pro-China here must admit that China is a crazy amalgamation of nationalism, marxism, and capitalism. "Only in the east..." right?

It follows that, indeed, this Chinese amalgamation may be preferable in some regards to the western arrangement, as it stands. However, it is grossly misleading to say that all the west has to do is adopt marxism and we will see the success or will be able to duplicate the success of the Chinese.

I will stop now because there are going to be some who reply to this who will quite rightly announce that that ship has sailed for the west. That we stand no chance to match the success of the Chinese.

But thank god for that.

That amalgamation will be pursued by the Chinese exclusively in the 21st century, while the rest will revert to a moreso isolationist stance where western philosophy will once more take precedence over any kind of globalist tyranny.

Not to mention that the Chinese will face a ridiculous challenge in the smashing of a resurgence of natural religiousness against the repression of the communist party.

I wish them the best outcome. But those in the west will be wise to begin looking away from the east.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 5 2021 19:31 utc | 200

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