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January 22, 2021

On Day 1 Joe Biden Destroyed Women's Sports

On his first day in office President Joe Biden destroyed women's sports.

As one of several executive orders Biden issued the

Executive Order on Preventing and Combating Discrimination on the Basis of Gender Identity or Sexual Orientation.

It sets out a new policy:

Every person should be treated with respect and dignity and should be able to live without fear, no matter who they are or whom they love. Children should be able to learn without worrying about whether they will be denied access to the restroom, the locker room, or school sports. Adults should be able to earn a living and pursue a vocation knowing that they will not be fired, demoted, or mistreated because of whom they go home to or because how they dress does not conform to sex-based stereotypes. People should be able to access healthcare and secure a roof over their heads without being subjected to sex discrimination. All persons should receive equal treatment under the law, no matter their gender identity or sexual orientation.

This is librulism gone crazy.

The legal core of the executive order says:

In Bostock v. Clayton County, 590 U.S. ___ (2020), the Supreme Court held that Title VII’s prohibition on discrimination “because of . . . sex” covers discrimination on the basis of gender identity and sexual orientation. Under Bostock‘s reasoning, laws that prohibit sex discrimination — including Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972, as amended (20 U.S.C. 1681 et seq.), the Fair Housing Act, as amended (42 U.S.C. 3601 et seq.), and section 412 of the Immigration and Nationality Act, as amended (8 U.S.C. 1522), along with their respective implementing regulations — prohibit discrimination on the basis of gender identity or sexual orientation, so long as the laws do not contain sufficient indications to the contrary.

Yes, this requires a bit of explaining.

Title VII is the Civil Rights Act of 1964 which prohibits discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex or national origin.

Title IX of the Educational Amendments of 1972 prohibits sex discrimination in any education program or activity receiving federal financial assistance. BUT title IX also sets out exceptions for a number of specific educational activities including sports.

In the U.S. girl's and women's sport in schools and colleges only took off after Title IX was enacted.

Discriminations based on biological sex are not only allowed but seen as positive in sports. Women have their own leagues and their own competitions because it is a simple scientific fact of life that persons who are born with a Y chromosome, i.e. males, develop stronger bodies than persons born with an X chromosome. If there were no gender discrimination in sports no person born as woman would ever have a chance to win an open competition. There would always be stronger men who would win.

In the Rio 2016 Olympics the 100 meter final for men was won by Usain Bolt in 9.81 seconds. The last men in the finals, Trayvon Bromell, needed 10.06 seconds. The 100 meter final for women was won by Elaine Thompson in 10.71 seconds. She would have had no chance to even reach the men's semi finals.

The case the Supreme Court ruled on in Bostock v. Clayton County was based on a job discrimination against a gay man:

On June 15, 2020, the Court ruled in a 6–3 decision covering all three cases that discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity is necessarily also discrimination "because of sex" as prohibited by Title VII. According to Justice Neil Gorsuch's majority opinion, that is so because employers discriminating against gay or transgender employees accept a certain conduct (e.g., attraction to women) in employees of one sex but not in employees of the other sex.

The ruling by the court is controversial. What was the meaning of 'sex' in the Civil Rights Act of 1964 when it was enacted? Was it meant to cover how people 'identify' or did it only apply to the biological meaning of the word?

The problem with the Supreme Court ruling and Biden's executive order is that they extend the meaning of biological sex to 'gender identity'. This undermines the exception set out for sports under Title IX. Under Biden's interpretation any male can declare "I currently identify as woman" and run in the a women school or college competition. Under Biden's EO any school which rejects such nonsense will lose all federal support.

Abigail Shrier @AbigailShrier - 5:11 UTC · Jan 21, 2021

On day 1, Biden unilaterally eviscerates women's sports. Any educational institution that receives federal funding must admit biologically-male athletes to women's teams, women's scholarships, etc.

A new glass ceiling was just placed over girls.

Former U.S. Representative Tulsi Gabbard had seen that problem coming:

Tulsi Gabbard 🌺 @TulsiGabbard - 20:58 UTC · Dec 11, 2020

My 'Protect Women’s Sports Act' simply protects the rights & interests of girls & women who participate in sports so they can compete on a level playing field. Denying biological differences between men & women undermines the reason why Title IX was created in the first place.

H.R. 5603, the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act of 2020 simply states:

For purposes of determining compliance with title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972 (20 U.S.C. 1681–1688) in athletics, sex shall be determined on the basis of sex assigned at birth by a physician.

Gabbard detailed the problem and her position in a video:

Tulsi Gabbard 🌺 @TulsiGabbard - 19:34 UTC · Dec 13, 2020

Title IX is a historic law that positively changed everything for women & girls. This video explains how, and why I introduced the Protect Women’s Sports Act - to clarify, uphold & strengthen the original intent of Title IX, ensuring a level playing field for girls & women.

With her being no longer in the House there is little chance that the law will pass anytime soon.

Biden's executive order is one of many reasons why the Democrats will lose the next election. All over the U.S. high school boys who are too lame to become a member of a school's male team or to win in a male competitions will 'identify' as girls and demand to be allowed to join the female team or to take part in the female competition. It already happens but the number of such cases will now explode.

It is clear what will follow from that. Girls will stop to take part in competitive sports. They do not want to share a locker room with boys who, maybe only for a day, 'identify' as girls. They will also no longer have a chance to win anything.

It is not pure idioticy that Biden pushes out such nonsense. From the view point of the ruling class it makes sense to split the plebs along cultural ideological lines. As long as they fight each other about access to bathrooms based on 'identity' they will be distracted from recognizing that class discrimination and economic imbalances are the real problems they should care to change.

Issues like the above, which is plainly unreasonable for anyone not drunk on 'librul' LGBTQWERTY cool aid, are a major reason why the U.S. is losing international respect. It no longer cares about science or reason. It does not stick to legal commitments, treaties and international law. It has stopped to make any sense.

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b did not state it (perhaps because it's too obvious); but it should be noted that there generally is no such thing as "male" sports ... there's "open" sports, in which people of either sex and any orientation can compete and there's women's sports, in which biological females can compete. The latter was created so that the 1/2 of the population who are born female could compete meaningfully and participate and benefit fully from the positive aspects of sports.

Any XY males who identify as women can participate in the open division. Many XX women have chosen to do so over the years, in sports ranging from golf to football. Some have been competitive, some less so; but the option is there. There is no need for this idiocy.

Posted by: Caliman | Jan 22 2021 17:34 utc | 1

Even before Raytheon board member Lloyd Austin
was confirmed as Secretary of Fear
the US invaded NE Syria, crossing out of Iraq.

The above is info from AMN news. Don't know anything about AMN as their website
seems to be under attack and down.

Posted by: librul | Jan 22 2021 17:44 utc | 2

If O'Biden gets started on his long-delayed sex change protocol, he will become the first woman president. That way we won't have to wait for him to shrivel up to the point of no return.

Posted by: blues | Jan 22 2021 17:45 utc | 3

Silver lining? Soldiers get veto on war.

When hostilities begin, all male soldiers can identify as female to avoid combat.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 22 2021 17:46 utc | 4

“All over the U.S. high school boys who are too lame to become a member of a school's male team or to win in a male competitions will 'identify' as girls and demand to be allowed to join the female team or to take part in the female competition. It already happens but the number of such cases will now explode.”

Come on man. This isn’t going to happen. No teenage boy is going to think: “Man, I wish I was a cool jock who people respected. I know! I’ll say I’m a woman so I can go beat up girls. Then everyone will respect me!”

Your link actually directly argues against you here! Mark Beggs is a Female to Male transgender. He (formerly she) is taking testosterone in order to transition. He wants to wrestle in the male division but Texas state law forces him to compete according to his gender at birth (female).

Posted by: Malarkey Detector | Jan 22 2021 17:57 utc | 5

But Biden already has a foolproof way of deciding gender, a quick sniff and it is all clear to him. If he sniffs a male then a smart tap on the nose will set him right. He must have learnt the technique from a doggie, as they never get it wrong.
s/ (did you need the s?)

The only way out is to call everyone "it", and subdivide later.


If this is a start to a new dawn in US politics then heaven help us. " eve-it and an it-snake made sure that adam-it ate apple for breakfast, upon learning this, Biden-it threw them out of the WH gardens". After which G-d said "oh well, back to the drawing board...."

As b says, this is not going to go down well in any reasonable future.

Posted by: Stonebird | Jan 22 2021 17:58 utc | 6

Rock climber Lynn Hill competed against men. She was the first climber, after 30 years of attempts, to climb the Nose on El Capitan free:

Posted by: Gulo | Jan 22 2021 18:00 utc | 7

Just wanted to say you were spot on and prophetic about Syria the other day. Check this....

After bringing troops home and only president to start no foreign war ... U.S. military convoy of 40 trucks enters Syria… Biden The Warmonger Begins….

Posted by: Dogon Priest | Jan 22 2021 18:01 utc | 8

"It is not pure idioticy that Biden pushes out such nonsense. From the view point of the ruling class it makes sense to split the plebs along cultural ideological lines. As long as they fight each other about access to bathrooms based on 'identity' they will be distracted from recognizing that class discrimination and economic imbalances are the real problems they should care to change."

While I completely agree that splitting the working class into warring factions is the main purpose of liberalism (American liberalism of the last ~40 years, that is), I kinda doubt that any of the proles care enough about the bathrooms.

The main liberal tools are 'anti-racism', multiculturalism, and 'anti-sexism' ('feminism').

All this homo and trans stuff is unnecessary overkill, imo. In fact, this is mostly a way for liberals to eat their own.

Posted by: Mao Cheng Ji | Jan 22 2021 18:01 utc | 9

I've long thought that if the fake left hadn't invented identity politics, the ruling class would have to invent it itself. Classic old divide and rule.

Of course it turns out that the fake left IS now part of the ruling class.

Posted by: Ash Naz | Jan 22 2021 18:03 utc | 10

Oh my. Predicting limited comments on this one. Only the most orthodox pabulum is allowed on this topic.

In related news the morning email brought three very long poems, paeans to Joe Biden. Fortunately I barely know the authors, they are sending out this drivel to anyone who was ever on their list. The wife has a flood of same, more than a dozen and some of them from her siblings. Authors in religious and sexual ecstasy over an aged and pathetic politician. Most of these authors would say they are socialists and anti war, they would say they are so far to the left of the Democratic Party they would never be in same room ever again. Creepy Uncle Joe is their god-king.

There will be no return to reality until America suffers crushing military defeat, has an economic collapse on the scale of Russia in the 90s, or there is general famine. It is crazy around here.

Took the car in earlier for an oil change. Proprietor of the garage says he is busier than any time in last nine months. Almost as busy as status quo ante, All are celebrating the resurrection of America in the person of Joe Biden.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 22 2021 18:06 utc | 11

Just a correction to the post: the problem isn't that boys will declare to be girls in order to win something at sports, but that they will do so in order to get those coveted sports scholarships - which generally provides your college degree free of cost.

Yes, you won't get to Harvard or Yale - as those universities don't have sport scholarships - but you could still get to, e.g. Stanford (which is already considered superior to Ivy League in some areas) or Notre Dame. Not only that, but you'll get your diploma without the feared student debt.

So, the most likely scenario is that boys without the prospect of going to Ivy League or getting a male sport scholarship to, in an act of desperation, declaring to be a girl in order to get a sport scholarship somewhere else.

Curiosity: legend says it was because of Title IX that the USA became a women's soccer powerhouse. The reason for that is Title IX requires a 1:1 ratio between sports scholarships for men and women. Since the goose of the golden eggs is American Football - a sport which women are forbidden to play according to American societal norms and costumes - the universities chose what they considered the women's version of American Football, which is soccer, in order to compensate for the 60+ extra male sports scholarships American Football requires. That, combined with the fact that the rest of the world consider soccer a men's sport and forbid women to play it, resulted in the USA completely dominating this modality.

Posted by: vk | Jan 22 2021 18:13 utc | 12

It's funny that the trans-exclusionary radical feminists (TERFs) are now finding common cause with reactionaries of all sorts in their fight against gender non-conformity. The transgender women in sports non-issue is a great example. Here they ally with other sexual reactionaries (reactionary pastors and other conservative ideologues) to prevent <1% of athletes in women's sports, the majority of that <1% being mediocre at best, from competing with other women. Why? Because their chromosomes aren't right, i.e., TERFs want to discriminate on the basis of genetics. You can practically hear the goose stepping.

They do not want to share a locker room with boys who, maybe only for a day, 'identify' as girls. They will also no longer have a chance to win anything.

This is the same stupid bullshit that reactionary preachers tried to drum up hysteria over with regards to "transgender bathrooms." The idea that men, who identify for almost all of their waking lives as men, will get their drag on for a minute to invade women's spaces in order to sexually assault them is practically a pornographic fantasy for these types, something that their sexually repressed minds drum up but which no sexually healthy person would ever think of. The biggest danger to young women, when it comes to sexual assault, has always been from those who are already close to them: their uncles, their fathers, their pastors, and so on. Patriarchal power here unites with TERFs for the same reactionary agenda: the policing of gender expression, especially as it relates to sex, and the maintenance of a socially imposed gender binary which dates back only to the last century (despite the reactionary myths in this regard which ignore the abundance of anthropological data around gender non-conformity, which is universal in human societies, but more often coercively repressed than celebrated or even just tolerated).

The other aspect of this, with regards to "winning," is that not only MtF transgender individuals will be allowed to compete with women, but FtM transgender individuals will be allowed to compete with men. Previously, they were not. This meant that a FtM trans person had to compete with women - even if they were going through hormone replacement therapy! And these individuals win, constantly. The fantasy of men identifying as women for one day to win at sports against women is beyond ridiculous, but there are real examples of trans men being forced to compete with women and just crushing their competition. Is that fair?

From the view point of the ruling class it makes sense to split the plebs along cultural ideological lines

The pure workerist "we can't worry about these cultural issues so let's just pretend to be 60s hardhats" nonsense here ignores that revolutionaries have always tacked a progressive line on sex and sexuality, outside of the Thermidorean period of red fascism under Stalin (which banned abortion as well as sodomy). This right-tailing line puts us in league with reactionaries who want us dead in hopes that we'll gain some followers from the reactionary camp, and substitutes substantive individual autonomy and freedom of expression (which are valuable in and of themselves) for meek demands for cross-cultural working class unity - ignoring that it's the working class which has always been the most sexually liberated strata, consciously or not. What we see here is middle class conformity in all its tepidness and insecurity.

Posted by: fnord | Jan 22 2021 18:14 utc | 13

Not sure how I ended up in the land of the freepers, unless I should have taken that left at Albuquerque.

Posted by: Mike Adamson | Jan 22 2021 18:15 utc | 14

Underlying it all is a very serious problem that I've written about occasionally--industrial & household pollution causing ever increasing incidences of the masculinization and feminization of women and men, respectively, which is also related to the drastic fall in average male sperm count. All the above is explained in the vitally important book, Our Stolen Future, which I've promoted ever since I began commenting here. The problem is now over two generations old--that's 40 years. One either understands the underlying science or remains ignorant--the book reads at about a 9th Grade level. A male might be feminized but still remains a male biologically, nor can medical procedures alter that fact--a human is either born XX or Xy, with every cell adhering to that reality. I'm with Gabbard and Putin on this topic, but that doesn't mean that either of us hold biases that would prevent anyone from participating in society.

What needs to be boldly confronted is the fact that a we now have a significant portion of the population being born with birth defects due to industrial and household pollution, that such defects must be taught to children prior to puberty, and that society demand their governments enact laws that staunch the pollutants.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 22 2021 18:16 utc | 15

The practical effect of Biden's policy will be to further the conservative agenda.

More families will chose to leave public school systems, starving those systems of funds and furthering the two-tier educational system.

Separate but equal = = => Separate and unequal


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 22 2021 18:25 utc | 16

I think b is bordering on hysterical about this. Gender identity and the effects of hormones on sport performance is definitely a question that society will need to continue to parse out going forward, but no, there will not be any "explosion" of cisgender boys demanding to compete on high school girls teams lol! Have you ever met a high school boy? They'd die of embarrassment.

Even the linked article (from... let me see.. Fox News *eye roll*) was inaccurately cited. The article does not describe a boy joining a girl's wrestling competition. It describes Mack Beggs, a transgender boy (eg. a girl who is transitioning to a boy) winning the girl's wrestling competition.

Now here's a difficult question for sports organizations to address going forward. To what extent is it appropriate to govern permissible hormone levels for a given sport?

At what point should Mack be moved to the male wrestling category? And what about the case of Olympic runner Caster Semenya? She was born intersex with XY chromosomes and naturally elevated testosterone levels. Consequently, the International Association of Athletics Federations has ruled that Semenya cannot compete in future sporting events unless she artificially lowers her testosterone levels.

I don't know how these issues should be addressed, but they bring up real and complex questions for sports going forward. However, I'm certain that histrionics over transgender people is not helpful.

Posted by: clara.scope | Jan 22 2021 18:27 utc | 17

Fundamentally many sports are a genetic freak show. Doesn't matter how hard you train - you were never going to beat Usain - heck most of his American rivals were clearly cheating with drugs, but still struggled to get near.

Not saying Usain didn't train hard - just that he clearly had a natural unfair advantage.

This is what makes the paralympics so problematic - once you start defining classes it get's more about how close you happen to be to the edge of your class than anything else.

Heck - maybe I could win the Olympic medal for the fastest runner of a certain age, with no natural talent category?

And in terms of Womens sports - Caster Semenya is clearly another genetic freak - quite clearly built like a man, due to her naturally high level of testosterone. If you ban her - then you are banning who she naturally is - why not ban Usain as well - clearly unfair...

Perhaps you decide elevated testosterone above a certain level isn't fair - but then countries could just start trying to find people just below the limit.

ie the whole idea of categories in sport is a mine field.

At the moment the UK had quite a lot of success in advertising for people with a certain build to train to be rowers etc - the next logical step is to choose which athletes to invest in based on explicit genetics.

Whole thing is a minefield.

Posted by: Scientist | Jan 22 2021 18:32 utc | 18

karlof1 | Jan 22 2021 18:16 utc | 15

I would add fluorine (fluorides) added to water as one of the main reasons for a lowered sperm count. It also is claimed that it affects the brain. In that respect, as both the US and Ireland, who used to be "dissident" by nature, are the (only?) ones who regularly add it to water supplies, one wonders if this is not another way of forming a new dumbed-down population?.

Posted by: Stonebird | Jan 22 2021 18:39 utc | 19

"Adults should be able to earn a living and pursue a vocation knowing that they will not be fired, demoted, or mistreated because of whom they go home to or because how they dress does not conform to sex-based stereotypes." LOL But you'd best know you'll be fired and mistreated should you publicly express the opinion that people like Rachel Levine are clearly disturbed and maybe shouldn't hold high office.

Posted by: erik | Jan 22 2021 18:42 utc | 20

"After bringing troops home and only president to start no foreign war ... U.S. military convoy of 40 trucks enters Syria… Biden The Warmonger Begins…."

How does this nonsensical claim continue? Trump is NO different from Obama or Bill Clinton.

Trump initiated bombing against new foes, just as Clinton and Obama did. Trump bombed the SAA and he bombed Iraqi and Iranian forces in Iraq. These were mot a wars he inherited, these were hostilities that he initiated. His bombing in Iraq brought us to the brink of a GWB sized war w/Iran.

Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Jan 22 2021 18:42 utc | 21

The next Olympic Games are going to be funny. It will be male competition and trans competition. "Women" (the genre not the biology) are set to explode female (biology) world records. Extasy about such progress in US women (genre) sport will be seen on many pundits.

I'm going to read about opinions, not watch the competitions. The action will be in the former. I'm done with the latter.

Posted by: DidierF | Jan 22 2021 18:43 utc | 22


Pretending that some excellent male soccer player is going to "pretend to be a girl for a week, so as to be the star of the girls soccer team" is rightist tripe. There's no reason to repeate it as if it has any validity. But that's exactly what you did, except you didn't use a soccer (European football) example.

Posted by: Jay | Jan 22 2021 18:48 utc | 23

Maybe Harvard and Yale don't give athletics scholarships, but they definitely give preference to athletes in admission decisions. The possibility of being admitted to such colleges would, I believe, be a weighty consideration for teenage boys, especially ones who might already be considering going transgender.

Posted by: lysias | Jan 22 2021 18:50 utc | 24

This is a fake danger. There are not many trans people, and although there will be more in the future, it is not difficult to manipulate the rules such that genetic males do not get to compete in women's sports where strength counts. We don't have to go and cry over a general Biden decision as catastrophic. Just a bit of sense is needed.

Demanding real proof of long-term change is easy at sport-level. A boy pretending to be a girl for the day can be seen coming a mile off, and can be rejected as false representation of who they are. Intersex people are more difficult, but very few. Commonly it's a genetic male whose body does not react to testosterone.

A form of words can easily be invented at sport level, to define who can and who can't compete. In any case, the vast majority of trans-women are not interested in top-level sport; they are more interested in expressing their femininity.

Posted by: Laguerre | Jan 22 2021 18:52 utc | 25

RT has an op/ed agreeing with b:

"When it comes to adults, outlawing discrimination on the basis of gender identity is just as dangerous. There are good reasons why prisons, domestic violence refuges, certain health services and even some beauty salons are exclusively for females. This is not to discriminate irrationally against transgender people but to protect women who, in these specific circumstances, are particularly vulnerable.

"Biden’s executive order opens the door for men to access women’s private spaces. It makes it more difficult for medical professionals to direct advice about cervical smear tests, contraception and abortion provision, or breast cancer checks, at the women they are intended to help. It puts low-paid women who offer intimate beauty services at risk. And it makes it far more difficult to measure accurately whether there are sex-based differences in rates of pay or access to employment."


Stonebird @19--

The culprits in this case are hormone mimickers--chemicals that have the same appearance as estrogen and testosterone, along with those hormones themselves which are put into the ecosystem via the household toilet and industrial drains. What's more is the amounts required to cause harm are far lower than the listed harmful levels--parts per billion versus parts per million.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 22 2021 19:07 utc | 26

This idea some of y'all have that gender transitions could be influenced by competition for sports scholarship sounds like total fantasy to me.

The kind of mind that would come up with a plot to transition from male to female just to compete for an female athletic scholarship, and then actually carry through with it, is almost certainly too mentally unstable to be a disciplined and talented athlete.

People don't take hormones to change their gender identity on a whim.

But just a thought- this whole thing could be resolved with free college education. Boom! No more need for athletic scholarships, no more need to fret about whether transgender high school girls are only posing for scholarships (they're not).

Posted by: clara.scope | Jan 22 2021 19:10 utc | 27

Christopher Bryson's 2004 book "The Fluoride Deception" explains why the U.S. government and deep state have encouraged the fluoridation of drinking water. An inevitable byproduct of the production of nuclear weapons and fuels is uranium hexafluoride, whuch is highly toxic. In the late 1940s and early 1950s, poisoned Manhattan Project workers were suing defense contractors. So dental researchers were encouraged to research how fluoridation inhibited tooth decay, municipalities were encouraged to fluoridate their water, and Hollywood and the mass media were brought to portray oppositional to fluoridation as anti-science obscurantism. So the poisoned workers lost their suits, since the contractors' lawyers could portray fluoridation as beneficial and scientific.

Posted by: lysias | Jan 22 2021 19:18 utc | 28

@all - I had a wrong link in the post which was rightly criticized in the above comments. I have now changed it to this intended one which now correctly points to the example Tulsi Gabbard mentioned in her talk:

Transgender high school sophomores Terry Miller and Andraya Yearwood came in first and second place, respectively, in the 100-meter race at the State Open Finals June 4, angering some parents who complained they had a competitive advantage over non-transgender students.

Miller, who also won the top prize for the 200-meter race representing Bulkeley High School in Hartford, and Yearwood were born male, but they now identify as females.

Also thanks to vk for pointing out an important point that I missed. In the U.S. there are scholarships given as prices for for winning in sports. They introduces an economic motive to 'identify' as is most convenient way.

Many with probably disagree with me about this but I find it abhorrent that people who are still in puberty are allowed to 'identify' as a different gender from their biological one and are even given hormones to modify their bodies. There are happening lots of weird biological and psychological things during puberty with wide swings in 'identification' issues. To intervene before those have stabilized is IMHO medical, psychological and social malepractise.

Posted by: b | Jan 22 2021 19:20 utc | 29

Can i transtion to an extraterrestrial? I no longer feel that i'm Napoleon.

Posted by: Napoleon | Jan 22 2021 19:30 utc | 30

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 22 2021 19:07 utc | 26

The RT oped is crap. For a man to present convincingly as a woman requires a lot of work and effort. A man who just puts on a dress in order to pester women in the toilets will be recognised a mile off, and women who have the least antennae will immediately flee. Even those trans-women who have put in many years of work to perfect their female style are often immediately recognisable.

The reverse is not so. Guys are not bothered if there's a trans-man among them.

Posted by: Laguerre | Jan 22 2021 19:32 utc | 31

@4 'When hostilities begin, all male soldiers can identify as female to avoid combat.'

That won't help them. Female marines have been eligible for combat since 2016. Girls want a chance to shoot bad guys too.

Posted by: dh | Jan 22 2021 19:34 utc | 32

This is only part of the issue and the beginning of problems.

Once schools start teaching LGBTXQWERTY in kindergarten, future generations will be confused for the rest of their lives and families will be torn apart. All part of the divide and conquer/control masterplan.

The rights of these groups in the military will be well........interesting.

On giant mess to distract normal folks from the real issues and problem!

Posted by: James Cook | Jan 22 2021 19:45 utc | 33

b@29, thanks for the correction. In case no one else noticed, it's an article from June 2018.

Posted by: spudski | Jan 22 2021 19:46 utc | 34

@ Posted by: clara.scope | Jan 22 2021 19:10 utc | 27

From what I understood, the boy won't even need to take any hormones: he'll just need to declare he identifies as a female and that's it.

The same legal concept exists in Brazil, a country with a heavily mixed race population: the State gives a "mulato" the power to self-declare either as black or white or brown in each census. This happens in order for the censor to avoid judgemental calls on one's race, as there are a lot of people in Brazil that are, e.g. 1/8th black or 1/12th white and are not obviously black or white.

Posted by: vk | Jan 22 2021 19:47 utc | 35

"Many with probably disagree with me about this but I find it abhorrent that people who are still in puberty are allowed to 'identify' as a different gender from their biological one and are even given hormones to modify their bodies. There are happening lots of weird biological and psychological things during puberty with wide swings in 'identification' issues. To intervene before those have stabilized is IMHO medical, psychological and social malepractise."

Posted by: b | Jan 22 2021 19:20 utc | 29

I agree with this. Teenagers are too young to know what they are. Changing gender should be difficult and require determination. At least in their twenties.

Posted by: Laguerre | Jan 22 2021 19:53 utc | 36

Posted by: librul | Jan 22 2021 17:44 utc | 2

It's good site he is an young Syrian living in Amerika. He has family is still living there and also family in the Syrian Militarily. He site is under attack a lot

Thanks joe biden just another fuck up. Sad

Posted by: jo6pac | Jan 22 2021 19:54 utc | 37

@ 36 laguerre... that makes 3 of us - myself included.. too much confusion in that time frame and this just adds to it..

Posted by: james | Jan 22 2021 19:59 utc | 38

@36 & 38. I completely agree with b about that. Of course that probably makes me....yikes....conservative! Perhaps even fascist!!

Posted by: dh | Jan 22 2021 20:04 utc | 39

karlof1 @ 26:

There actually was a case in British Columbia in 2019 in which a transgender woman called Jessica Yaniv targeted beauty salons run by sole female owners, all of them working-class and of Indian / Sikh backgrounds, and accused them of discriminating against transgender individuals when they refused to wax Yaniv's genitals. The businesses clearly advertised they served female clients only. One business was only a short walk away from a larger salon that served male and female clients.

Initially when the court case became public, the Canadian general public was sympathetic towards Yaniv until the lawyers for the women whose businesses had been targeted by Yaniv took the unprecedented step, with their clients' consent, of revealing their identities. Canadian public opinion then sided with the women. One of the women had had to close down her business due to Yaniv's targeting.

At some point during the trial, information about Yaniv's Tweeting activities became public, revealing this individual as racist and being obsessed with prepubescent girls.

I believe Yaniv lost in that case.

As can be seen even in this example, Identity Politics is being used to punish women, and women from lower classes and disadvantaged backgrounds in particular.

Posted by: Jen | Jan 22 2021 20:07 utc | 40


Biden Immediately Removes ‘China Challenge’ As ‘Policy Issue’ On State Dept Website

Biden regime has revised the Trump-era State Department website to omit describing the Chinese Communist party as one of the department’s main “policy issues.” The site – – also revised China’s country profile page to lead with “U.S. Relations With China” as opposed to its predecessor, “The Chinese Communist Party: Threatening Global Peace and Security.” A January 19th archive of the site reveals 23 items as “policy issues” on a drop-down menu on the Trump administration’s version of the site. In contrast, the Biden regime lists just 17. Among the issues flagged by the Trump administration but omitted...

Posted by: Dogon Priest | Jan 22 2021 20:10 utc | 41

And Ru Paul for sports commentator?
It is only fair if applied to pro sports as well.
I can see no quicker way to end Baseball Basketball and Hockey.
It is certainly gasoline to fire the right and probably the left who will disagree silently for fear of being branded by the justice warriors as Trumpians.
Just your typical meaningless grandstanding: 'look at me I'm not trump' while he invades Syria.

Posted by: ld | Jan 22 2021 20:12 utc | 42

hey dh - you fascist you!

Posted by: james | Jan 22 2021 20:13 utc | 43

@ 40 jen... thanks for the close to home example... this is the problem with all this - captured in your story..

Posted by: james | Jan 22 2021 20:14 utc | 44

Posted by: Jen | Jan 22 2021 20:07 utc | 40

That's a very rare exception. I've never known a beauty salon women only.

Posted by: Laguerre | Jan 22 2021 20:14 utc | 45

I had a girlfriend who won 3 gold medals at the Olympics.
This is more of a class issue

Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Jan 22 2021 20:19 utc | 46

Jen @40--

Thanks for your reply! I sorta recall that case but never followed it or discovered its outcome. I didn't bother to mention how this would affect sex-crimes--or should we now call them gender crimes--mainly because I have no data. When I look at the ongoing financial insanity, the promotion of this issue by Biden/Harris only serves one purpose and that's to further divide and rule as others have noted. It's one example the world needs to completely ignore.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 22 2021 20:21 utc | 47

Posted by: Laguerre | Jan 22 2021 20:14 utc | 45

I.e. the person concerned would have been offended by the sexism of the establishment, not because they were trans.

Posted by: Laguerre | Jan 22 2021 20:24 utc | 48

Damn, I was born in the wrong era. Given this opportunity back in high school I definitely would have "identified" as female and joined the girls' Greco-Roman wrestling team.

According to this law hormone tests to determine eligibility will be unlawful. "Identifying" as female is all it will take, and there are no tests to determine identity. Identity is purely subjective. "Identity" is literally anything that the individual wants it to be, and trying to assert otherwise is flaccid pseudoscience nonsense.

Our host is correct. Girls' sports are now dead. It is just a matter of time before they are overrun by XY "girls". There are lots of incentives for boys to "identify" as girls and no real disincentives, so why wouldn't they?

Contradictions stemming from western society's delusion metastasize.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 22 2021 20:26 utc | 49

I have to admit, when somebody speak with me about the gender reshuffling, I feel like, I have the obligation to see earth as flat. Nethertheless the opposing argument of sinking number of sperms is a misunderstanding. The comparison with the 50ies doesn't take in account that booth the frequency of intercourse as well wanking did rise. The second by four times. I guess caused by visual animation first on dead trees, now in the internet. The sinking amount of sperms, is not a lower production of male bodies, it just getting ejected more often and so wider distributed between shots. Another curiosity, Olympic games have one competition that not differentiate between gender of athletes. It's dressage riding.

Posted by: rico rose | Jan 22 2021 20:28 utc | 50

dh @Jan22 19:34 #32

Female marines have been eligible for combat since 2016.

Eligible but not required. Woman now have the option to choose a combat role.

There are still few woman in the military and very few that choose to train for combat.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 22 2021 20:29 utc | 51

@ Karlof1 (15)

I recall, a decade or two ago, a spate of articles on industrial pollution disrupting the hormones of fish and amphibians causing them to change sex. Strange that we never see those articles any more, or is it? Could it be that, rather than admit that hormone mimicking chemicals are causing gender confusion among humans, they decided it was cheaper to pretend it was normal than it was to clean up the water and settle large numbers of class action suits?

We are dealing with more than just pollution from industrial processes btw, plasticisers and flavonoids are also implicated so the food industry is potentially affected too.

Posted by: MarkU | Jan 22 2021 20:32 utc | 52

@51 Most of the military is made up of non-combat personnel. It's true there are non-combat roles in the Marine Corps too but I think you'll find that Marines have no option about combat if required/ordered. And that includes female marines. Most of them are probably itching for a chance to prove themselves

Posted by: dh | Jan 22 2021 20:45 utc | 53

We're going to have women's teams that consist almost entirely of trans athletes. Should be interesting. Then later on, we can start new leagues for "legacy females" only to compete in. /sarc

Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 22 2021 20:53 utc | 54

As every single fried of mine knows, I am a revolutionary and one of my wildest objectives is equaling MEN and WOMEN.
No matter what.
So first of all it s imperative that in that sport called Volleyball
playwed worldwide by men and women, the HEIGHT of the net must be equalized. Either the womens net goes up to 2.43 meters or the males one gets down to 2,24 m (that of adult women players) ...OR forcibly
both come to meet mid way to that -democratically ruling to both a net height of 2,43 - 2,24 = 19 divided by 2 ...gets to 2.335m high.
And second, my edit from the Universal Equality Chair is that all wages, gains and pay of top models of the likes of Gisele Bundchen should cut down their dividents to the level of their maile counterparts.
Or both make their ends meet... in the middle somehow.
I don t give a damn if volleyball and the fashion world come to suffer any damages.

Posted by: augusto | Jan 22 2021 20:55 utc | 55

@ Posted by: vk | Jan 22 2021 19:47 utc | 35

From what I understood, the boy won't even need to take any hormones: he'll just need to declare he identifies as a female and that's it.

The problem, comrade, is that you don't understand. Where laws exist on the matter, they typically restrict transgender athletes from competing with members of their identified gender. Hence Texas barring a FtM transgender athlete from wrestling with other young men. Instead, he was forced to wrestle women, and won. The law designed to "protect women's sports" ended up giving an unfair advantage to a transgender wrestler. Big backfire, and that happens far more often than a man just "declaring" he's a woman - putting no effort into it, not taking hormones, not going through with reassignment surgery, not performing the feminine gender outside of his mere declaration. Andy Kaufman did that as a bit. It wasn't real life.

The claim that there are no disincentives for the hypothesized practice is ludicrous. Transgender individuals are victims of hate crimes and social ostracism. That's a major disincentive to it.

W/r/t Karlof's claims that pollution is driving gender non-conformity, this would fail to explain why third genders and analogues to transgender behavior are commonly found in pre-industrial human societies. One of the most famous of these was the Karankawa, whose society featured a third gender where those with XY and XX sex chromosomes took on roles not typically taken by others with their chromosomes.

The gender binary obliterates the real variety that exists in gender expression. It should not be reified as it is by TERFs. We don't need it, and it restricts our freedom more than it augments it (if it can be said to augment it at all).

Posted by: fnord | Jan 22 2021 21:00 utc | 56

On the very dangerous fad of teenage female-to-male trans-ing:

Posted by: Prof K | Jan 22 2021 21:01 utc | 57

Girls will stop to take part in competitive sports

When DARPA’s research into brain-computer interfaces and cyborg implants trickles down to the general practitioner the fight club will assume a whole new dynamic.

Just remember, ladies, what you can deny a man will remain reverent.

Posted by: john | Jan 22 2021 21:08 utc | 58

@ Posted by: rico rose | Jan 22 2021 20:28 utc | 50

Ironically, the Olympic Games are completely irrelevant to the USA. The product that vertebrates the NCAA is what the Americans call "College Football" - which won't be affected by this potential new policy. As long as College Football survives, the whole athletic scholarship system will survive.

Curiosity #2: the NFL is not a men only league. There's nowhere in its statute that states only men can be players. Women can do the combine and compete for a spot in an NFL team. That makes the NFL technically a genderless/gender fluid league. The same is true for College Football - indeed, it had a woman participating in an official CF game last year, as a Placekicker (PK) for a team from that was ravaged by COVID-19. So, the most beloved American sport is technically unisex.

Posted by: vk | Jan 22 2021 21:11 utc | 59

so many people refuse to comprehend something so simple - in the old days people thought that girls were girls and boys were boys because of their biology; nowadays we understand that being a girl or a boy is a personal choice

Posted by: mistah charley, ph.d | Jan 22 2021 21:12 utc | 60

Like Laguerre I was quite confident that this was such a minuscule problem that it was barely worth discussion. I found out, however that I was wrong: two young men both known to me not only announced their intention of redefining themselves as women but undertook the process of being surgically castrated.
Both of them were intelligent, socially conformist types. One had served in the US Army in Iraq the other, a computer expert, wanted to join the military, and train to fly planes. As a transsexual he would have an inside track-the military having quotas to fill and transsexual pilots being in short supply. The last I heard, though, the poor former-guy had medical problems related to the physical training involved.
In a sense it is all very funny-for the spectator- but it is also idiotic when what are personal mental health issues become social questions of importance.

Both of these young men had problems related in the first place to extremely macho, right wing fathers and, in later years, female spouses. My totally uneducated guess is that both had had a belly-full of living as less than obviously Alpha males and were running from one stereotype to another. The other- the female- being one in which the 'failures' of men in this society (sensitivity, thoughtfulness, a pacific disposition, a reluctance to compete and struggle for dominance) are largely seen , or traditionally were seen, as qualities to be cherished in a woman.

This is not a matter of public toilet facilities or qualifying for the Olympics but of a class society sick to the point of requiring urgently to be put out of its misery- a society obsessed with class, caste, bullies/victims, a society founded on armed robbery in which the criminal (in the sense of the anti-social) is celebrated and the tiller of the soil, artisan and labourer is regarded with contempt (loser!)for not enjoying as much wealth as he/she produces. A society in which rewards material and psychic, are reserved for the worst behaved and the least deserving.
It is really the old question of adjustment to a society which is sick and vicious: it is no sign of mental health to be well adjusted in capitalist society, it is no sign of wisdom to accept and enjoy partaking in a banquet of evils.
Once we start agreeing that sixteen and seventeen year old girls are children and that our ancestors were, therefore, largely pedophiles, the way to believing what QAnon believes (which is very similar to what the MSM tells us regarding the Epstein/Ghislaine Maxwell affair) is wide open.
The likelihood of individuals within such a weird society deciding to be castrated or, with the assistance of hormones, develop mammary glands is not something to be taken in stride, let alone welcomed but, rather, a signal, one of many, from nature that social change is necessary and that, under capitalism, we seem fated to tear ourselves to pieces to smooth the path for cannibalism.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 22 2021 21:14 utc | 61

Who cares about this stuff?

Posted by: c | Jan 22 2021 21:17 utc | 62

Testosterone is the advantage, whether it is gained at birth or administered as a drug. Perhaps a Nordic contributor would like to comment, but wasn't the Norwegian nordic ski team "helped" with allowances to take asthma drugs (steroids). One only has to look at the muscles on the William sisters of tennis fame to see the same results. A male who has the advantage of testosterone at birth will outperform female athletes. I remember someone commenting on twitter that Iranian female sports had a number of transgender athletes but I have no way of confirming that. Anyone here with something to add?

Posted by: Tom | Jan 22 2021 21:18 utc | 63

Sometimes pressures to win on university coaches, even high school coaches, can have coaches doing what they have to to save their jobs. An issue that might appear would be a coach recruiting the athlete needed to win. A coach of a women's hockey team might like to load up on special athletes.

Posted by: dave constable | Jan 22 2021 21:21 utc | 64

This is the fruits of Mental illness and alienation and perversion in western society.

Nothing more.

Posted by: Smith | Jan 22 2021 21:22 utc | 65

Posted by: Prof K | Jan 22 2021 21:01 utc | 57

It's their choice. As noted above, they should wait their twenties, and maturity.

Posted by: Laguerre | Jan 22 2021 21:24 utc | 66

dh @Jan22 20:45 #53

Most of them are probably itching for a chance to prove themselves

Actually, woman soldiers have said that what they are itching for is promotion and the higher income and perks that come with that.

Those that have served in combat roles get promoted faster. Because that's how the military works (not surprisingly). After leaving the military, high-ranking officers also get to be consultants and sit on corporate boards too.

IMO, very few men or women, are itching for the hell of combat.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 22 2021 21:24 utc | 67

c @62: "Who cares about this stuff?"

It is a day one executive order. Obviously it is of extreme importance to those among the faux left who supported Biden.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 22 2021 21:27 utc | 68

@67 Yes that's why I mentioned Marines specifically. I think they sign up hoping for some combat hell.

Posted by: dh | Jan 22 2021 21:30 utc | 69

Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 22 2021 21:27 utc | 68

What else would I expect of a true male?

Posted by: Laguerre | Jan 22 2021 21:33 utc | 70

Laguerre @70

Don't misgender me you CIS white scum! I identify as mountain panda, and the appropriate pronoun for me is "mountain panda". Don't you forget it you bigoted fascist!

Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 22 2021 21:38 utc | 71

rico rose @50--

It appears you misunderstood what I wrote: -industrial & household pollution ... which is also related to the drastic fall in average male sperm count. It's a separate effect caused by the same pollutants.

MarkU @52--

PR twists and turns a great many things and has buried many important health issues, tobacco being the most celebrated, but prior to that there was lead. Moyers did a PBS-backed investigative report on what the petrochemical industry was hiding in Trade Secrets, but nothing much came out of that either. As I've written before, there isn't any existing Countervailing Power within the Outlaw US Empire capable of pushing back against Big Government and Big Business--a fact noted over 60 years ago in Galbraith's book on the topic. It would be great if such pollution would confine itself to its place of origin but it doesn't. The federal government wants to appear as if it's increasing equitability when instead it's tightening the noose that controls the masses. Meanwhile, take a look at something very meaningful that's horrific when you know what it's depicting--the rocket-like trajectory of the M1 Money Supply, which is the bottom-most graph. Why the need for all those $$$$Trillions when GDP looks like this. Today's Keiser Report guest called what's depicted as Dragflation as opposed to the late 1970s Stagflation. I read today that Morgan Stanley's warning of a major correction in the US stock markets, while elsewhere I read about corporations salivating over the prospect of another round of massive stock buybacks. Yes, more tea leaves to read.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 22 2021 21:48 utc | 72

Heard on Fox "news" today that they're concerned about the NG bedding on the floors in DC. OH, the horror of it all. b, whatever your smoking, change brands.

I expect such superfluous issues from Fox, but not MoA..

Posted by: vetinLA | Jan 22 2021 22:05 utc | 73

Guess it beats discussing real issues like doing away with the filibuster....

Posted by: vetinLA | Jan 22 2021 22:12 utc | 74

fnord @56--

The malformation of the masculine and feminine in animals has occurred since the beginning of sexual reproduction as Our Stolen Future takes pains to explain how such alterations take place. As I wrote, incidences of such birth defects are increasing due to both industrial and household pollution--industrial meaning all types of production outside the home. Remarkably, there're numerous species that have no gender or have both simultaneously, particularly plants. The term Hermaphrodite was once used to describe all types of gender abnormalities. I found the Wiki page on this topic to be rather good. Do note that instead of discussing far more important matters we're busy dealing with what ought to be an esoteric topic, which was the entire purpose for the executive order.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 22 2021 22:12 utc | 75

It's a bizarre situation but there are many young females who see themselves as male in the future, however there is also an important scale of abandonment. In return, there are many males, who want to see themselves as female. In this case, there is not much abandonment. It's better being a woman than a man.

One can ask why this is. Traditionally it is because being a man is superior to being a woman. in fact its the reverse: women decide the issue.

Posted by: Laguerre | Jan 22 2021 22:28 utc | 76

@Malarkey Detector | Jan 22 2021 17:57 utc | 5

Come on man. This isn’t going to happen. No teenage boy is going to think: “Man, I wish I was a cool jock who people respected. I know! I’ll say I’m a woman so I can go beat up girls. Then everyone will respect me!”

If money is involved, you bet they will. If Biden's genderless society really comes to pass, nearly all professional "female" athletes will have XY chromosomes.

Posted by: Cyril | Jan 22 2021 22:44 utc | 77

Where do you people live? In my locale the sense of the bar could not be spoken aloud. It would be unseemly and suspicious to think too loudly on the subject. And since nothing can be said, no tentative positions ever formed, thinking starts to go away. Which is a huge victory for the other side. They would have a bigger victory, at my expense, if I talked like you.

Posted by: Oldhippie | Jan 22 2021 22:56 utc | 78

Sports are a mix of talent, self-discipline, years and years of time dedicated to the practice of the sport and incentives to sustain the whole thing.

Females competing with males is a non-issue. Genetics tend to favour the males and females that want to compete with them... well, more power to them. They are fighting an uphill battle and I can only admire their will.

However, to imagine that this is not a blow to the females the person has to be pretty clueless about how the psychology of an athlete goes. Why should they waste their time and tears with sports? Incentives went down hard.

The change will not be noted fast, by the way. Like I said, sports take years and years of dedication.

The worst is that most females will have to face it with a smile in their, well, faces...

People should put ideology aside for a couple of minutes and look at why there are some distinctions...

Posted by: Alves | Jan 22 2021 23:00 utc | 79

Cyril @77--

With genetic engineering, we'll just clone ourselves while adding modifications to fix what we see as defects. Not solved yet is how to transfer one's personality so that the clone will actually be us, not just a physical copy without the same "software."

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 22 2021 23:03 utc | 80

dh @Jan22 21:30 #69

I think they sign up hoping for some combat hell.

Readers of your comments should not confuse a few (men and women) that "itch for combat" with a general desire for combat (by men or women) in the military.

For example, although women are about 14% of the army, only about 2,000 women were in combat roles more than four and a half years after that choice became available to them.

Marines and Special Forces make it very difficult for women to join so women "itching for" combat would join army units instead.

US Army has 481,000 regular army personnel. 67,000 are women. Only 2,000 have joined combat units. Doesn't appear to be much "itching for combat" from women.


Women in Combat: Five-Year Status Update


It has been five years since the ban on women in combat was lifted in 2015 and women began integrating previously closed combat arms billets in January 2016.

The percentage of women in the Army has grown ... to 19 percent of officers ... and 14.4 percent of enlisted ranks in 2018.

As of July 2019, 46 women had graduated from Infantry Basic Officer Leader Course, 72 women from the Armor Basic Officer Leader Course, and 270 enlisted women from Infantry and Armor One Station Unit Training. As of October 2019, in the regular Army, 1,055 women had accessed into combat specialties while 653 women had completed training and were serving in combat roles.

The Marine Corps regularly has had the lowest percentage of women of any of the services ... As of December 2019, a total of 613 female Marines and sailors were serving in combat arms units, though not all of these women serve in combat arms billets. There are 231 female Marines serving in combat arms billets ...

PS Women do better in the navy and air force where technical ability counts for more than physical exertion but even in these services there are much fewer women than men - especially in any combat role and even after five years of being able to choose a combat role.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 22 2021 23:06 utc | 81

In other news, the spectre that is McConnell is attempting to prevent Democrats from being seated as Senate Committee Chairs...
McConnell and Senate Chairs

Posted by: donten | Jan 22 2021 23:14 utc | 82

Remember that if you identify politically with "The Right" not "The Left" , but "The Right", Conservatism, Centrism, and etc., then you naturally identify with your Authoritarian rulers and their enforcement systems. Examples: Police; The Penal System; The Military; The Uber rich and tax cuts; The Church; The other churches; Superstition as a control mechanism; Revised History (friendly relations - Thanksgiving with the Indians, and etc...)

"The Left" opposes and is contrary to the above. If you are not anti-fascist, then you may be fascist. The key component of fascism is the collusion btw government and big business. The other crap which defines fascism - highlighted as it is - is just window dressing.

Posted by: Kristan hinton | Jan 22 2021 23:17 utc | 83

@81 I never said they were a majority. I'm talking about people who like the excitement of combat. I've been told you don't really know who you are until you've faced a life or death situation. Maybe you have lead a more sheltered life than me but I've met quite a few guys like that. They have all been men so it's nice to hear there are no warlike women who feel the same way......or at least only a couple thousand.

Posted by: dh | Jan 22 2021 23:29 utc | 84

Those biological males who will declare a female self-identity will mostly be those who want to make a mockery of this executive order. I expect that it will be rescinded or modified post haste.

Posted by: Rob | Jan 22 2021 23:31 utc | 85

@bevin | Jan 22 2021 21:14 utc | 61

I agree that the teen trans boys are crushed personalities forced from one extreme to seek refuge at another, not identifying as females but as failed males. I pity them but it is too late to help them when known. They need respite from aggressive fathers and associates, other activities in which they can succeed, in which their physique or interests are not ridiculed.

Very true that this is "adjustment to a society which is sick and vicious... is no sign of wisdom to accept and enjoy partaking in a banquet of evils." Nor is aggressive masculinity healthy in any sense, nor beneficial to young women who seek such a mate as superior, nor to trans women who emulate that. They are all the victims of aggressive and malicious fathers, and mass media that celebrate selfish aggression.

Posted by: Sam F | Jan 22 2021 23:37 utc | 86

From the view point of the ruling class it makes sense to split the plebs along cultural ideological lines.

Yhis is just a countinuation of the division along gender lines that miraculously appeared when the revolutionary movements of the late 60s looked threatening to the status quo.

Let's not talk about liberation, let's talk about wimmins lib!

Posted by: DeQuincey | Jan 22 2021 23:39 utc | 87

i have to thank b for drawing our attention to what the 'mountain panda' refers to as the first, or one of the first executive orders!

i happen to agree with much of what bevin articulates, but i don't think those who choose to be transgender all have had macho father types... i know 4 trans people, maybe because i play music and there are more in this area then in the armed forces - but i could be mistaken.... and i live on the westcoast oldhippie, so maybe the more conservative values in the center of canada or usa chase the same types out to the coast..

regarding the issue that karlof1 raises in environmental changes - pollution and etc... i think there may be some truth to that, but don't know.. i remember having a friend who raised 3 boys.. his wife was adamant about not using plastic for anything as apparently regular exposure to it affects testosterone... i have no idea if this is true, but she was entertaining these thoughts back in the 80-90's...

for an interesting read on gender neutrality, ursala leguin wrote the book 'left hand of darkness' in 1969 that deals fairly directly with this issue inside the sci fi medium for anyone interested...

for me, of the 1 person i know who i first met as a male bass player-guitarist who decided to change, it was a gradual process.. my gut impression is there is a common connection between mental health stuff and this, but i can't be 100%.. what i do know is the transition and aftermath are quite psychologically challenging.. it is challenging enough living in our world and it is made more challenging by opting to change gender... i don't know which comes first here - the chicken or the egg... why some opt for this and others not - i tend to think there is a great deal of tension and conflict around sexuality.. there is for everyone, but this option makes it more challenging... so, i do agree with @b in his view young people need to be sheltered from all this.. but i know in the world today this is not going to happen in western culture as it presently stands... one of the others that i know transitioned to the other sex is the daughter of a women i have played music with... in this case she was raised an only child and i think she probably found her mom a bit to off the wall on a regular basis to form a clear picture of her identity... but i could be mistaken.. that is how i saw that.. and she was too young to make this decision, but as i said her mom is kind of crazy, so she was given this option and is now a he apparently... i haven't gotten an update in the past few years...

Posted by: james | Jan 23 2021 0:00 utc | 88

@83. The world just witnessed TOTAL collusion between big business and a so called left government, right here in the USof A. Did u really just come here and say fascism is from the right only. Wow dude yer seriously bent. Happy to be wrong. If u didnt say that then please explain what you ment.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jan 23 2021 0:25 utc | 89

This is good. The only way to stop the trans-nonsense is for the supporters of it by over reach to stop themselves.

Criticism is impossible, because any opinion not correct is self incrimination for any public figure. It cannot be discussed, cannot be debated. It just is.

Therefore it will need to stop itself. Now it is going that way.

Posted by: Mark Thomason | Jan 23 2021 1:06 utc | 90

Is this site really starting down this path? Isn't identity politics precisely the red herring that will divert debate from real questions like the division of labour, financialisation, consequences of economic and military imperialism and the question of the future of the late capitalist West? Let's leave this one in the way-too-hard-basket as the distraction it is.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 23 2021 1:13 utc | 91

Gloria Steinem's career started with the CIA. Feminism in the 1970s very much suited the interests of capitalism.

Posted by: lysias | Jan 23 2021 1:18 utc | 92

Red herrings do indeed divert discussion. That is why they need to be refuted.

Posted by: lysias | Jan 23 2021 1:21 utc | 93

Panic over sex is a symptom, not an argument that should be respected. In my experience, there is never any decent motive, much less reason, behind this kind of hysteria.

Quite aside from the absurdity of boys pretending to be girls for the prestige of being winners, as if there were no social penalties for transgenders, including on occasions physical assault*, testosterone is not a magic hormone.

Height and weight classes for many sports will be remarkably effective for increasing equity in competition, I suspect.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 23 2021 1:30 utc | 94


But there's no refuting it in the sense that there is a rational argument that will win over opposition. The problem cannot be tackled as a dinner-party debate that starts "well in my view if one is born a man one should adhere to the biological prescripts God laid down..." The question of gender identity is rather one bound up with the structures of consumption in late capitalism and could only have arisen within the historical conjuncture we are living through. There are, for example, structural parallels between gender indeterminacy in identity and value indeterminacy in financialisation. Just as gender as a form of lifestyle pulls away from biological reality so too capital-value itself pulls away from its ground in the real economy. Contemporary 'gender' has as much basis in reality as money. Only history can explain this, not some endless debate about what men and women 'really' are. What we are discussing here is a social and psychological symptom of late capitalism in decline, nothing more. (For more, see Baudrillard, The Transparency of Evil)

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 23 2021 1:33 utc | 95

Is making pronouncements about this stuff really a genuine priority for the Biden administration? How long has this legislation been in the pipeline and why wasn't it put on the table before the election?

The US got rid of one presidential Nero only to elect another one. What a train wreck we are witnessing.

Further to an earlier comment: if I went to my local bar and started to advocate for or talk about this stuff people would think I was warped.

Posted by: Paul | Jan 23 2021 1:35 utc | 96

Laguerre @ 45, 48:

The salons targeted by Jessica Yaniv were home-based businesses run by sole operators. The women who ran these businesses were married women from working-class Indian Sikh backgrounds. At least one of these women had a small child at home.

I do not see why, if they advertised clearly that they only took female or ciswomen clients, and there were other salons close by that served clients of all genders, they should have to endanger themselves and any children they had with them, and cause further problems for themselves, their extended families and the Sikh community by inviting into their homes a biological male stranger claiming to be female.

There is a reason that anti-discrimination laws need to make allowances for women, so they can have a space for themselves and their children: these groups historically have been vulnerable to restrictions and oppression from individual men and from society generally.

The salon owners targeted by Yaniv already were under religious restrictions to limit their dealings with strange men but they still have to make a living. Yaniv took advantage of anti-discrimination laws to target them.

Posted by: Jen | Jan 23 2021 1:36 utc | 97

*fnord@56 writes "The claim that there are no disincentives for the hypothesized practice is ludicrous. Transgender individuals are victims of hate crimes and social ostracism. That's a major disincentive to it." This is too generous, in my judgment. Hate crimes and social ostracism are desired, which is why such a change is policy is so infuriating to those who want to torment select individuals, defining their power to oppress others as their freedom, both collective and personal.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 23 2021 1:40 utc | 98

Can i transtion to an extraterrestrial? I no longer feel that i'm Napoleon.

Posted by: Napoleon | Jan 22 2021 19:30 utc | 30

As Napoleon, you have extraterrestial possibility. First, your very own Napoleon Comet. Second, spouses share property, so why not Eugenia asteroid?

Eugenia is a large asteroid, with a diameter of 214 km. It is an F-type asteroid, which means that it is very dark in colouring (darker than soot) with a carbonaceous composition. Like Mathilde, its density appears to be unusually low, indicating that it may be a loosely packed rubble pile, not a monolithic object. Eugenia appears to be almost anhydrous.[17] Lightcurve analysis indicates that Eugenia's pole most likely points towards ecliptic coordinates (β, λ) = (-30°, 124°) with a 10° uncertainty,[6] which gives it an axial tilt of 117°. Eugenia's rotation is then retrograde, rotating backward to its orbital plane.

Retrograde! If you feel that you are neither a terrestrial, nor a progressive, and you enjoy cute little additions to your property -- what is more cute than a mini-asteroid Petit Prince orbiting your own pile of rubble -- this is the choice.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jan 23 2021 1:49 utc | 99

No big loss.

It is only a game.

Posted by: jiri | Jan 23 2021 1:59 utc | 100

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