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January 06, 2021

How Trump 'Appeased' Russia

Two years ago we wrote about Trump's relation with Russia:

Putin Asks And Trump Delivers - A List Of All The Good Things Trump Did For Russia

Trump obviously wants better diplomatic relations with Russia. He is reluctant to counter its military might. He is doing his best to make it richer. Just consider the headlines below. With all those good things Trump did for Putin, intense suspicions of Russian influence over him is surely justified.

There followed 34 headlines and links to stories about Trump actions, from closing Russian consulates to U.S. attacks on Russian troops, that were hostile to Russia.

In fact no other U.S. administration since the cold war has been more aggressive towards Russia than Trump's.

But some U.S. media continue to claim that Trump's behavior towards Russia has not been hostile at all. Consider this line in Politico about anti-Russian hawks in the incoming Biden administration:

Nuland and Sherman, who entered academia and the think tank world after leaving the Obama administration, have been outspoken critics of President Donald Trump’s foreign policy — particularly his appeasement of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Where please has Trump 'appeased' Vladimir Putin?

Here are a number of headlines which appeared in U.S. media since we published our first list two years ago. Which of the described actions were designed to  'appease' Putin or Russia?

U.S. to withdraw from nuclear arms control treaty with Russia, raising fears of a new arms race - Washington Post, Feb 1 2019

Putin says U.S.-Russia relations are getting 'worse and worse' - Reuters, Jun 13 2019

Green Berets train Polish, Latvian resistance units in West Virginia - Army Times, Jul 8 2019

Trump Adds to Sanctions on Russia Over Skripals - NYT, Aug 1 2019

INF nuclear treaty: US pulls out of Cold War-era pact with Russia - BBC, Aug 2 2019

US Slaps New Sanctions on Russia for 2018 Nerve Agent Attack - Daily Signal, Aug 2 2019

1000 U.S.Troops Are Headed to Poland - National Interest, Sep 29 2019

U.S. sanctions Russians over attempted interference in 2018 elections - CBS News, Sep 30 2019

US formally withdraws from Open Skies Treaty that bolstered European security - CNN, Nov 22 2020

Nord Stream 2: Trump approves sanctions on Russia gas pipeline - BBC, Dec 21 2019

Trump sanctions Rosneft, Russia's largest oil company, for aiding Maduro in Venezuela - MSN, Feb 19 2020

Russia Says New U.S. Weapon Threatens Nuclear War - Newsweek, Mar 7 2020

Trump Continues to Be Exceedingly Tough on Russia - Townhall, Jul 25 2020

U.S.-Russia Military Tensions Intensify in the Air and on the Ground Worldwide - NYT, Sep 1 2020

White House rejects Putin’s proposal to extend last U.S.-Russia nuclear arms treaty - LA Times, Oct 16 2020

U.S., Russian Navies Involved In Brief Confrontation At Sea - NPR, Nov 24 2020

US sanctions NATO ally Turkey over Russian missile defense - AP, Dec 14 2020

Pompeo accuses Russia of sowing 'chaos' in the Mediterranean - Rawstory, Dec 15 2020

Exclusive: U.S. preparing new sanctions to impede Russia's Nord Stream 2 pipeline - Reuters, Dec 23 2020

As we have written before:

When one adds up all those actions one can only find that Trump cares more about Russia, than about the U.S. and its NATO allies. Only with Trump being under Putin's influence, knowingly or unwittingly, could he end up doing Russia so many favors.

Not.

Posted by b on January 6, 2021 at 18:01 UTC | Permalink

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From the little I know (visiting Capitol building ca. 25 years ago), this is absurd: to enter, you must pass a gate with metal detectors, which would preclude firearms. It is a reasonable bet that the weapon matching the killing bullet will not be found.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jan 7 2021 1:58 utc | 94

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Those whose job it is to guard the Capitol buildings are surely armed, though, no?

What with it being Yankeeland an' all

Posted by: Triden | Jan 7 2021 2:15 utc | 101

But, come, come. We must have order. Respect Pelosi please. The sooner we do that, the sooner we can go back to being ordered, civilized, and mechanically efficient when it comes to approving the war budget to bomb more brown people.

Let us be united again. And Civil!

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 7 2021 1:06 utc | 76

Amen, or should that be Awomen to that?

Posted by: Tom | Jan 7 2021 2:19 utc | 102

Mmmm I’m luvin this free speech thing, you know giving the fascists a platform !
We on the left could get used to it.
Wonder if b will delete me in the morning, funny he never deleted the right wing trolls.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jan 7 2021 2:25 utc | 103

peltast@68&69 may be sincerely stupid, but these comments are lies. The coup attempt is not the a crowd storming the Capital but the effort to use the Insurrection Act. The spectacle of Trump striding across Lafayette Park was a first attempt. The crowd was encouraged to think they could intimidate the Congress, and it is entirely possible Trump was gambling that maybe it would "work." But again, the real coup attempt centers on invoking the Insurrection Act and getting the army into the streets. In my judgment, the refusal of the higher military to gamble so obvious to me as why Trump didn't start any new wars (yet,) had a lot to do with it. The extraordinary open letter from all living secretaries of defense, bipartisan, all pro-imperialist, was the only serious measure ever openly taken against Trump (no, I don't count the impeachment for treason when whatever crimes were committed weren't treason, any more than I believe Clinton was a traitor.) Even the insistence that the spectacle was arranged stretches plausibility. There is enough cryptofascist or outright fascist sentiment in the police forces of this country to explain why they would rather give way than fight their spiritual kin. The Cruz/Hawley/Cotton(?) faction supporting the ridiculous parliamentary stunt may have hoped for police violence to justify a refusal to certify, as a way to try to deligitimize Biden. Their problem is that losing, especially a coup, is self-deligitimizing. Americans hate losers, that's half of Trump's charm is the pose as a winner.

There was a report, albeit quickly retracted, that the National Guard was denied permission by the DoD to intervene. This could have been a false report meant to encourage the rioters. Or it could have been a true report, but "someone" reversed the order. At a guess, someone the weasels Trump put in to do his bidding after Esper chickened out of a coup (again, bringing in the military via the Insurrection Act constitutes an attempted coup, much more than inciting a riot against the government.) The someone might have been Milley or an equal, or it might have been Pence. There is a report that cabinet secretaries are discussing 25th amendment removal of Trump, though that might just be posturing as a loyal American instead of admitting to be a Trumpist loser. (Or is that loser Trumpist? Sometimes technical terms defeat me.)

It will almost certainly all be covered up. At this point, refusal to seat the most egregious of the liars who pretended there was some need to challenge the certification, on the obvious grounds of disloyalty and stupidity, always a lethal combination, no? But this is unlikely.

I have no use for looters, because looters by definition ran away from the fight, unless they were too cowardly to fight at all. But trashing the Capital os a powerful political statement against democracy. I have no use for the contemptible version of democracy so common in reactionary circles which perverts the language to mean, democracy is the rule of the minority rich over society. But trashing the Capitol for daring to say that the winner of an election won is a disgusting attack on democracy as the rule of the majority. The fakers who pretend it's an attack on imperialism are possibly the lowest form of apologists for their vicious principles.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 7 2021 2:28 utc | 104

But trashing the Capitol for daring to say that the winner of an election won is a disgusting attack on democracy as the rule of the majority.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 7 2021 2:28 utc | 104

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Your pretence that the multi-state blatant ballot stuffing operation (one that would have shamed even the legendary Boss Croker), which we witnessed in November 2020, was some sort of example of "democracy" is, frankly, risble

Posted by: Triden | Jan 7 2021 2:49 utc | 105

"Those within the Levant have expressed various levels of interest, with Occupied Palestine being the lowest, but none as yet are formally involved." posed by Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 7 2021 0:41 utc | 73

Bibi might start to have some sleepless night wondering what is happening to his enabler. I can't see anyone else around to replace Uncle Sugar Daddy Sam.

I thought the Project to build a railway from Iran to Syria was going to be part of China's BRI. I guess it will have to wait until the US occupation of Iraq to end, which could be happening pretty soon. Overall, a good day as it brings the end of the evil empire that much closer. The Europeans have ditched Juan Guaidó, but that dependable poodle Canada hasn't. Some cracks are letting the light shine in.

Maybe some improvement with Russia is on the horizon. One will have to keep an eye out for any positive movement with Russia. The EU have just signed a deal with China. I find it hard to believe the Russia bullshit can keep going much longer. Merkle is leaving soon, the meddlesome UK has left the EU and no one listens to the babbling idiots in the Baltic states. Keep an eye on Macron as he may make something happen with Merkle leaving. I think it will be hard for Europe to open up to China and not Russia given the trade routes and how China and Russia are closely linked.

Posted by: Tom | Jan 7 2021 2:55 utc | 106

@Marks2: "We on the left could get used to it"

Honey!...the ONLY "left" you flatter yourself in actually represent is: "my left fool".

But do carry on with your personal neo-political crusade against reason...

Ha...zzah!

Posted by: time2wakeupnow | Jan 7 2021 2:57 utc | 107

106 - "Maybe some improvement with Russia is on the horizon."

The prescient Indian analyst Bhadrakumar reviewed recent remarks made by the incoming US National Security advisor Jake Sullivan.

"Major shifts can be expected in the policies toward both China and Iran while selective engagement of Russia is on cards."

https://indianpunchline.com/preview-signals-bidens-foreign-policy-shifts/

Posted by: jayc | Jan 7 2021 3:17 utc | 108

@Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 7 2021 2:28 utc | 104

The protestors might think there could be a coup. Donald Trump might even think there could be a coup. But there is absolutely no chance of a coup occurring in this moment against Biden in favor of Trump. How could such a coup take place? You have correctly dismissed the protestors. There's nothing they could possibly do to seriously harm the workings of the US government.

So could Trump use the Insurrection Act to enact a coup? Could Trump order the military into the streets of the United States and seize power? Overthrow democracy and create a dictatorship?

This is an absurd fantasy that depends on a completely false image of US politics. The US is not a democracy. The US is a dictatorship. More specifically, it is the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. The class of men and women who own property, who possess vast wealth and dominate the United States economically. They hold the power in the United States today. This hold on power has perhaps been weakened in the past decade, but there is no other entity that can overthrow them in this moment.

What backing would a Trump coup government have? Who would support it? The Senate wouldn't. Congress wouldn't. No Governor would. No foreign government would provide support. Would business support him? Which industry would benefit from such a coup? Every former Secretary of Defense has rejected the coup in advance. Do you imagine that even the military, of which Trump is the Commander in Chief, would obey him? If nobody would support such a government after a coup, why would you imagine that any group would carry it out?

This is the reason that no coup will occur. It is not in the interests of the US ruling class for there to be a coup, and there is no other group that could possibly carry one out.

Posted by: peltast | Jan 7 2021 3:22 utc | 109

Today's events brought to us by DeepStateInc., free Kabuki to keep us all entertained and fighting (and our focus away from the deeper money and power issues). The MIC and other dark forces of Empire expect to emerge just fine. But the emperor has no clothes, and only if we stop fighting each other will we wake up to see that, and realize the power belongs to us if we want it.

Posted by: Kabobyak | Jan 7 2021 3:36 utc | 110

Trump is such a pathetic creature. He now positions Pence in the sights of his BLAME gun. This pathetic and scurrilous fool even out righted his evil arch right personal attorney.

Trump unhinged here as analysed by Kyle Kulinsky in a six minute video.

Narcissism is a tragic role when placed in the hands of an idiot. But it won't make Xerxes Biden look any better when he next meets a foreign head of state. Only Trump could redefine 'low bar' when in fact it is just a smear on the grass. And you can bet Joe Biden will brag about how he reached great heights compared to Trump.

Get this idiot off the stage and bring on the next.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2021 3:43 utc | 111

USA Deep State turns the page on the Trump MAGA!psyop by making Trump - who did everything they wanted - into a dangerous, unhinged demagogue. Now 1) Congressmen who were going to object to the election have stepped back from that position, 2) MSM is full of speculation that article 25 could be invoked to remove Trump from office days before he is would be replaced by Biden; and 3) Twitter has blocked @realDonaldTrump (which pro-and anti-Trump MSM is highlighting).

Biden is unlikely to undo anythingthat Trump has done despite hints that he may.

  • Will Biden reverse the withdrawal from JCPOA? Nope.
  • Will Biden end Trump's arms build-up? Nope.
  • Will Biden end Trump's militarization of space? Nope.
  • Will Biden end the Assange extradition? Or Pardon Assange? Nope.
  • Will Biden stop USA's reneging on NK Peace Deal? Nope.
  • Will Biden reverse the territorial gifts to Israel? Nope.
  • Will Biden pull troops out Afghanistan? Iraq? Syria? Nope.
  • Will Biden ease tensions with Russia and China? Nope.
  • Will Biden stop anti-Maduro ops/propaganda? Nope.
  • All of these will almost certainly not change under Biden. Nope.

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Prediction: Biden will put an end to NordStream II.

Simply because he's not Trump (just as Obama was lauded for not being Bush!). European political leaders simply could not give Trump such a victory. Was THAT why Biden is the next President?

(And thus, this comment is on-topic!)

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 7 2021 3:49 utc | 112

Tom #106

Bibi might start to have some sleepless night wondering what is happening to his enabler. I can't see anyone else around to replace Uncle Sugar Daddy Sam.

Consider it this way Tom: Uncle Sugar Daddy Sam is still there in the form of Joe Biden who has declared that he "is a zionist too". Besides he has carefully cultured the evangelical christians in the USA to respect the god goven right of Israel to care for God's promised land and to have lots of space for their residences after the rapture. Bibi does not have sleepless nights but he makes sure that Palestinians do. I don't think Trump will wish to or even be capable of reversing anything that Trump has decreed. I would love to be wrong but Golan will not revert to Syria under Biden and Palestine land will continue to be stolen and the US embassy will likely remain in Jerusalem.


Maybe some improvement with Russia is on the horizon. One will have to keep an eye out for any positive movement with Russia. ...I find it hard to believe the Russia bullshit can keep going much longer.


Well Tom, as much as I would like to see that, I have a feeling that it will go on, and on, and on. It has served the lying cheating murderous Dimratss for the past five years and it will serve them for many more. Sure there might be a cosmetic lipstick addition to the Dimratss pig to make it more appealing to the Russian Bear but I doubt the bear is in a kissing mood for the USAi now - or for a decade or two.

As for Macron making something happen with Merkle leaving: I doubt he has the intelligence or the creativity to make a flea circus happen.

I agree with your thought that it will be hard for Europe to open up to China and not Russia given the trade routes and how China and Russia are closely linked. It is possible the EU will drift away from the USAi but I would never put it past Joe Biden to retain the sanctions mania as Trump demonstrated its effectiveness. Besides Biden is a strong family man and loves to ensure their wellbeing so he is likely to be much pleased when EU nations borrow from the IMF or EU central bank and give it to his son and then have the populace pay back the loan. As he did in Ukraine.

Posted by: Tom | Jan 7 2021 2:55 utc | 106

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2021 4:05 utc | 113

This seems appropriate for DC today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU-RuR-qO4Y

Posted by: Tom | Jan 7 2021 4:05 utc | 114

@ Piotr Berman "Dems lack their own sniper squads."

Hardly! Think Brennan, Clapper, Morrel... and even the Nuland gang..etc. They have more than
enough Imperial Guard Mercenaries to pile up their own, home grown body barricades whenever it might suit them.

Posted by: time2wakeupnow | Jan 7 2021 2:13 utc | 99

sniping:

meaning number 2:
the action of verbally attacking someone in a sly or petty way.
Yup, all people you listed are in the master class.
meaning number 1:
the action of shooting at someone from a hiding place, especially accurately and at long range.
I heard that few armchair warriors are good at it.

In any case, joking on the topic gets morbid.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jan 7 2021 4:06 utc | 115

This is very sad.
Bernhard, please won't you fix it?
thank you in advance

Posted by: ld | Jan 7 2021 4:11 utc | 116

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2021 4:05 utc | 113

I was thinking along the lines that the US will soon be unable to support Israel to the level it does now. This year I believe could be it. When the "recovery" doesn't materialize after the corona shit show winds down is perhaps when the penny drops, you know, the one that has inscribed on it In God we Trust. God has likely left the room on that one.

Posted by: Tom | Jan 7 2021 4:26 utc | 117

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2021 4:05 utc | 113

I was thinking along the lines that the EU will try to patch things up. The US, not likely. They will need ever more enemies to blame for all the failures that are spreading across the land.

Posted by: Tom | Jan 7 2021 4:29 utc | 118

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 7 2021 0:02 utc | 67

good job I agree with your analysis, we will have another four turmoil years regardless who was pushed on top to be the president, IMO coming Biden admin. has even less legitimacy than any administrations i have seen before him, that alone makes and necessities more harsh governing, and tougher "law" enforcement. It might become all better( I truly hope so), for the next generation and the country's future.

Posted by: kooshy | Jan 7 2021 4:48 utc | 119

It's ironic and very telling that b writes instead an article on Russia and Trump on the very day when momentous, competing scenarios are in the news: the Dem Senate race smackdown in Georgia, followed by the solemn Congressional certification of the newly-elected President, and the reckless attempted Coup to interrupt that process, overturn the legitimate election and force a fiction election of Trump on the American people.

First, the latest news is that Trump has been blocked from Twitter for 12 hours, Melania's Chief of Staff, Stephanie Grisham quit and other Administration rats are considering jumping ship while Congress resumes the process of counting the electoral votes that formalize the 2020 Election results and the new President.

Second, I keep hearing about Trump's mental state. Trump may behave like a lunatic, but he knows exactly what he's doing. Trump is enthralled with power, and speaking of Russia, he envies Putin's power extending the limits of his Presidency and getting away with it because of his mystique and popularity with the Russian people. Trump would sell his soul for that kind of absolute power; and he has!

Trump can't accept this election defeat. It's a shattering blow to his ego. He brags that 74 Million people voted for him and that's a lot, but Biden got 6 Million more. That's a reality he won't accept, because he considers himself always the greatest, but so misunderstood and yet to prove how far superior and entitled to a glorious 2nd Act he is. He's a narcissist; an egomaniac who makes up alternate facts when real facts don't align with his image and goals.

So he's been inciting a soft coup with lies for weeks now, and in his desperation after losing successive multiple lawsuits to change the Election results, he tried to step up that coup today by pushing his demonstrators to show strength and force an end to the certification process because Pence would not go that far, because the Constitution does not give Pence that authority. But Trump expects loyalty to go beyond the law and his supporters went beyond the law for him just as he induced them to do.

Trump used people and conditioned them to blind infatuation through lies and conspiracy to do his dirty work to satisfy his egotistical lust for power and ambition.

This was premeditated! He's been conditioning the masses with lies and fantasy exactly like a cult leader. So to excuse this depraved act; this evil manipulation of the fixated mass towards force, reducing his actions to mental instability is to absolve him of responsibility and intent. He deserves to answer for this DANGEROUS STUNT. Trump has breached his oath to the Constitution and the Law and dodged accountability long enough.

The question of sedition must be addressed by means of a legal inquiry.

Posted by: Circe | Jan 7 2021 5:03 utc | 120

why do we even have to bother with this obviously fake BS? Everyone with 2 working brain cels know Trump didn't appease Russia in anyway shape or form. This articles don't serve any real purpose, its a circle jerk and we all agree before hand what the Democrats or US media says is BS. Therefore they are a waste of time and cheap.
Let's have articles that are challenging, such as about what possible problems and false flag evens Biden presidency is cooking up against Russia. The possibilities are endless: a manufactured incident in the Azov sea, starting fighting in Ukraine, or/an Syria, attack against Russian forces or against Syria by USA and all the possible implications: Russia being cut off from the swIFT or Russia's trains and ships denied access to Europe.
Come on, try a tiny bit to get us interested and thinking.

Posted by: Hoyeru | Jan 7 2021 5:21 utc | 121

@Piotr Berman " meaning number 1:
the action of shooting at someone from a hiding place, especially accurately and at long range.I heard that few armchair warriors are good at it."

Precisely.

Encompasses the bulk of the best overall precisely targeted responses here.

Posted by: time2wakeupnow | Jan 7 2021 5:26 utc | 122

Unarmed Woman Shot and Killed by Capitol Police Identified – 14-Year USAF Veteran (VIDEO)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/breaking-unarmed-woman-shot-killed-capitol-police-identified-14-year-usaf-veteran-video/

Posted by: gm | Jan 7 2021 5:35 utc | 123

Oh, and one more important point. Some law enforcement colluded with the Trump Mob. This is disgraceful. Law enforcement who stepped aside to let the mob storm the Capitol must answer as well for their dereliction of duty!

Members of Congress objecting to results in swing states must also answer for promoting the lie that there was widespread fraud in the Election. This is a LIE; a dangerous lie that has far-reaching consequences and an attempt to steal an election and force a 2nd Trump term, despite the vote in Congress to certify the Biden win.

Posted by: Circe | Jan 7 2021 5:41 utc | 124

Tom #117

I was thinking along the lines that the US will soon be unable to support Israel to the level it does now. This year I believe could be it. When the "recovery" doesn't materialize after the corona shit show winds down is perhaps when the penny drops, you know, the one that has inscribed on it In God we Trust. God has likely left the room on that one.


Well my take on the Israel issue is that the USA will deny its own before it shorts the illegal palestine occupier. Israel is part of USA weapons testing and distribution cover and USA will continue to support it. Besides the pentecostals have all been primed by both R and D parties to be hell bent on protecting the 'christian' holy land from them muslims etc, etc. They have intensive brainwash 'tourist' operations for all the religious pentecostal believers and many others. Likely fully funded by the USA via its contributions to israel and in that way ensure compliance. If that were to fail they would just run the tried and tested 'anti semite' character assassination trick as in the UK.

I believe the penny has dropped for many in the USA but they have no control over the public discourse, media or their elected politicians. The elected class only needs sufficient media cover to pump their logo on the issue of the day and they will do whatever they can get away with. If the masses get really disturbed then the National Guard will just enter the village and kill. That's what they have done in the past and they are more ready than ever to repeat it if some have forgotten.

Look what the #FraudSquad just did on the medicare for all vote and all the mass media ignoring of it then all the tame alt media like the Young Turks giving them approving cover. The elected class imagine they can get away with that level of betrayal any time they wish. Obummer did for two terms.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2021 6:10 utc | 125

@ uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2021 6:10 utc | 125 who keeps writing all these good comments


Thanks......

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 7 2021 6:20 utc | 126

Tom on Leonard Cohen

I loved that and he is a true golden spirit. Unfortunately Democracy is still coming to the USA and my guess is that it is a few decades away yet. The last time I thought it could be in place the president had a majority in both houses and could enact whatever he wished. Instead he insisted on 'bi-partisan' agreement and the entire promise of change fell into ashes. The insurance sector gouged deeper, the banks gouged deeper, the man had a secretary of state that set out to destroy the most prosperous African country because its leader was 'odd'. The CIA had a leader that remains a belligerent psychopath to this day, he had a vice president that rigged a colour revolution and stole from one of the poorest nations in Europe just to enrich his own family.

So yeah, democracy is coming to the USA but I am more inclined to sit back and consider this.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2021 6:25 utc | 127

How Trump failed to appease China and how Biden is dead busted on arrival. Quantum encrypted phone calls on smartphones in a new pilot programme in China launch.

Now that could become a mighty high demand product if it were transferable to any carrier network. Such a function would collapse the price/value of all major western smartphone makers.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2021 6:47 utc | 128

Andre Martynov has a succinct take on the Trump exit and his appeal to Pence to do something.

"But in the end, Trump made his own bed by surrounding himself with traitors while himself having no abilities for serious work as a responsible statesman, which always starts with cadres. As Stalin used to say--cadres decide everything. Right, cadres, not clowns, traitors and cowards. Now that things got a little bit "out of control", I am sure we may see some interesting developments within the agonizing so called Republic and remember--most (not all) events must happen in the capital of the country to have a massive political effect. Have enough pop-corn?"

I figure Trump is the prime example of the folly of letting a narcissist any where near power in a nation. He will be the subject of endless analysis and theses for a decade or two. He could even eclipse Hillary Clinton as a suitable case for narcissism research.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2021 7:05 utc | 129

@Circe 180

He brags that 74 Million people voted for him and that's a lot, but Biden got 6 Million more.

Exit polls: Biden win by 12.5 million. 8.1%
Pre-election polls: Biden win. 8.4%
Final tally: Biden win by 6 million. 4%.

That's not possible. Look at how the exit and pre-election polls line up immaculately. There was no massive pre-election poll failure. There's no such thing in the modern era. There was no massive exit poll failure. There's no such thing period.

When the pre-election and exit polls don't line up with the finals, one or the other is wrong. The final is wrong. It was manipulted by Republican control over the voting machines, a control they have had since 2002. 93% of US votes are counted on Republican-controlled voting machines which have been proven to have stolen many elections since 2002.

Sure there's election fraud! But it's all on the Republicans' end!

Even that part is not true. Biden won by 12.5 million votes. Republicans rigged the election again with the voting machines they control. They've been doing this since 2002 with HAVA Act. They subtracted 6 million votes from Biden and possibly stole two seats, one in Montana and one in North Carolina. And they probably stole the election in North Carolina and surely stole it in Iowa. Many of the Republican victories were hugely padded and many Democratic wins were dramatically reduced. For instance,

Democrats won Iowa by 1. Republican added 9 points for a 9-1 victory.
Democrats won Wisconsin by 10. Republicans reduced to a .3 point win.
Democrats won Georgia by 2.6. Republicans reduced it to .6.
McConnell won Kentucky by 10. Republicans padded it to 20.
Jones lost in Alabama by 8. Republicans padded that to 18.

There were 39 red shifts and two blue shifts beyond the margin of error against the exit polls in the election. That is statistically impossible. There were 19-34 toss-up elections in Congress. Republicans won all of them. That is statistically impossible.

Posted by: Robert Lindsay | Jan 7 2021 7:56 utc | 130

Oh my god!.... its not the Russians - its its its the oligarchs!!!!


The Democrats’ massive war chest came in no small part from hefty contributions from corporate America. According to data from the Center for Responsive Politics, tech companies rallied around the Democratic challengers, plying the two campaigns with millions of dollars. Alphabet Inc., Google’s parent organization, was the largest single source of funds, their PACs, shareholders, or employees donating almost $1 million to Ossoff’s campaign alone with other big tech companies cracking his top ten, all with hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of donations from the like of Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook, and AT&T. The rest of the top ten were made up by universities.

Waddya know!

Mintpressnews is not a Russian front.

The most dysfunctional democracy money can buy:-

Thus, both contests have conformed to political scientist Thomas Ferguson’s “Golden Rule” of politics: that the party that spends the most almost always wins the election. Ferguson’s 1995 thesis, “The Golden Rule: The Investment Theory of Party Competition and the Logic of Money-Driven Political Systems,” argued that elections are essentially contests between rival big businesses and that the two political parties compete to serve those who pay them, not the public. Nearly 20 years later, a University of Princeton study of 1,779 policy issues found that,

Economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on US government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence.”

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2021 7:59 utc | 131

psychohistorian #126

Thank you and I enjoy flexing my grey matter and laughing at the universe and sometimes weeping for humanity.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2021 8:07 utc | 132

Off topic so avert thy gaze all you sensitives. But it is elephantine in this bar.

Some unfinished business awaits Xerxes Biden and his clown cart. And who better to be the other party than Persia.

Zohreh Kharazmi interviews the wives of Quds Force soldiers killed fighting ISIS in Iraq and Syria on what Qassem Soleimani means to them and what his death represents for Iranians.

The red flag is aloft yet at the Holy dome of the Jamkaran Mosque.

Thank you for being there Mintpressnews.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2021 8:13 utc | 133

@Jackrabbit 125

Vote Biden, the other Republican!

Biden: We're the Conservative Party #2. We try harder!

The CIA, extensions of which, extending like tentacles all over the US Military-Industrial Complex, has the opinion that "Presidents come and go, but the CIA always runs the show." Or at least they have since the Kennedy Assassination, I mean The Kennedy Example. Which was followed by J. Edgar Hoover's RFK Example and MLK Example. The message of the CIA/Deep State/MSM/ruling class/"donors"/corporacracy/Military Industrial Complex* is "You go against the entity described above, and you get the Kennedy Treatment.

It's all the same thing. All of these things are part of each other:

CIA/Deep State/MSM/ruling class/"donors"/corporacracy/Military Industrial Complex

It's all one thing. It's all "the Deep State." The Deep State is the "foreign policy establishment of the United States = the killers of JFK. The CIA is part of everything above - it's part of the ruling class, the "donors", the corporacracy, the Military-Industrial Complex, the Pentagon, the State Department, and of course the propaganda wing of the Deep State - the MSM.

CIA/Deep State/MSM/ruling class/"donors"/corporacracy/Military Industrial Complex

This is the entity that rules America. The Borg. It rules under Democrats, it rules under Republicans, Hell, it would rule under Sanders. If anyone asks you what the Deep State is, there's your answer. It's not a simple answer, but it's not a simple question. The Deep State is the military/economic/law enforcement/espionage arm of the US ruling class, or "the foreign policy establishment of the United States."

A friend of mine had lunch with the former attorney of LBJ. He said LBJ was in on the Kennedy assassination, but everyone knows that. My friend asked who killed JFK. The man said, "He was killed by the Foreign Policy Establishment of the United States." The CIA, the Deep State, the US ruling class, on and on. For weeks after the Kennedy Assassination, there were wild day-long parties at the homes of the ultra-rich Texas oilmen. Who, by the way, were in on it too.

I've been studying the Deep State the JFK assassination for many years now and this is my analysis. It seems like a dumb answer because it's so broad and all-encompassing, but I guess that's the idea: the Deep State is everywhere. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

Critiques welcomed.

Posted by: Robert Lindsay | Jan 7 2021 8:15 utc | 134

Russia people beware - Xerxes Biden likes his sanctions too.

The Trump administration has ramped up the use of sanctions, issuing around 3,800 new ones, compared to 2,350 in President Obama’s second term. Sanctions are an act of war, and, when applied unilaterally, are often seen as illegal. The UN has formally denounced many of the U.S. sanctions, noting that they “disproportionately affect the poor and most vulnerable classes,” and not the leaders of foreign governments as is sometimes argued.

This is the gratitude of Biden for the Russians - they were

useless in getting Trump elected,

useful in diverting attention from Hillary Clinton committing the single largest breach of USA National Security ever,

useful in sabotaging Trumps administration (almost as effective as Trump sabotaging himself),

useful for selling USA Uranium mines and enriching the Clinton Foundation,

useless in taking the bait and stoically refusing to be goaded by USAi ignorance,

mighty useful in enriching the Biden family once Ukraine was prised from their grasp.

And the little dandruff snorter Biden likes his sanctions too. Clown cart of Dimratss, traitors, snitches, pick pockets and frauds. Look out humanity here comes another wave of excrement from the USAi.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2021 8:28 utc | 135

While Trump appeased Russia was he also appeasing this elite group of antisocial thieves?

It appears he was not alone in doing this and that he was innocently following tradition (a defence that was not tried at Nuremberg).

Biden is a traditionalist as well so don't expect much different.

The tragedy for the USAi is that the #FraudSquad could have commenced a correction of this Armageddon trend but lacked the integrity, spine and simple common sense to begin the restoration.

According to the U.S. Federal Reserve’s table that’s headlined, “Distribution of Household Wealth in the U.S. since 1989”, the percentage of U.S. privately owned wealth which is held by the richest 1% has risen from 5% in 1990 to 36% today, more than a seven-fold increase. If it had instead been a twenty-fold increase, then the richest 1% would already own the entire country, but they instead seem to be heading to reach that 100% by around the year 2035. They’ve been roughly doubling their percentage of America’s privately owned wealth every decade since 1990; and, at that rate, they’d reach 72% by around the year 2030. Once they own everything, everybody else would be either working for them or in debt to them. The poor 99% would no longer be able to buy what the companies that the richest 1% own would be offering for sale. Obviously, an enormous economic crash is coming, but no one can say how soon before around the year 2035 that mega-crash will occur.

Thank you Strategic Culture for this little gem:-

David Sirota’s investigative news blog The Daily Poster headlined on December 30th “10 Stats That Will Blow Your Mind” and the top four were:

-The total cost of $2,000 checks ($465 billion) is less than half the amount that American billionaires have made during the pandemic ($1 trillion). The total cost of the checks is less than the amount that just 16 American billionaires increased their net worth by during the pandemic ($471 billion).

-Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk gained more wealth during the pandemic ($158 billion) than Congress just authorized for additional unemployment benefits for millions of Americans ($120 billion).

-Jeff Bezos’s personal wealth increased more every second of 2020 ($2,800) than Congress is considering giving Americans who are facing eviction, starvation and bankruptcy ($2,000).

-Congressional lawmakers are being paid $3,300 of government money every week to come up with ways to block $2,000 checks to millions of Americans.


Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2021 8:46 utc | 136

Robert Lindsay #134

I have no critique to offer but it sounds like a fair assessment of the past and the challenge that faces the USA polity.

They are remarkable people in a remarkable land and shit happens, even to the most powerful. So I don't expect them to necessarily take down the balance of our beautiful planet. Many nations are fully aware of the mendacity and greed of the USAi and they also trust that the citizens will force change. Time will tell but I am backing the people always.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2021 8:59 utc | 137

Italian commercial truck brand Bremach has announced plans to begin selling a Russian-designed 4x4 SUV in the U.S. sometime in 2021. The Bremach Taos is a rebadged version of the UAZ Patriot that first hit the market in 2005 and is similar in size to the Jeep Cherokee. However, the Taos is a true body on frame truck like the Toyota 4Runner that’s been updated with the modern safety systems required to make it street legal in the U.S.

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/russian-bremach-taos-suv-us-26g

Posted by: Mao | Jan 7 2021 9:17 utc | 138

I found a list of Biden appeasers but not one Russian among them!

There is a Russian sounding name there though. But you would expect that at Strategic Culture.

Should I assume this is fake news or could it be some form of TRUTH?

Sensitives be warned this could curdle your latte.

The list:-

"Contributor Total

Bloomberg LP [Michael Bloomberg] $56,796,137

Future Forward USA [largely Dustin Moskowitz] $29,917,229

Priorities USA/Priorities USA Action [Hillary backers] $25,841,199

Asana [Moskowitz & Rosenstein] $21,937,902

Sixteen Thirty Fund [dark money] $19,874,655

Democracy PAC [George Soros] $19,000,000

Senate Majority PAC [Democratic billionaires] $12,371,874

American Bridge 21st Century [largely Soros] $10,260,573

Paloma Partners [Donald Sussman] $9,016,248

Euclidean Capital [James Simons] $7,006,805

——

The 11th-largest (which will now be shown) happens to be not Democratic billionaires but Republican billionaires. However, Michael Bloomberg, the former Republican Mayor of NYC, was Biden’s largest donor, and therefore could also be considered to be a Republican donor to Biden’s campaign.

Defending Democracy Together [Republican billionaires] $6,776,862

In other words: the distinction between Republican billionaires and Democratic billionaires is no longer quite clear. "


The most dysfunctional democracy that debt can buy.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2021 9:51 utc | 139

Putin lies in wait: Russia desperate to humiliate Brexit Britain with cyber-attack in 2021

RUSSIA is aiming to humiliate Brexit Britain with a major cyber-attack in 2021, a security expert has warned.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1379039/Russia-news-latest-cyberattack-UK-hacking-hackers-brexit-UK-airspace

Posted by: Francis | Jan 7 2021 10:15 utc | 140

Bloomberg LP [Michael Bloomberg] $56,796,137

Future Forward USA [largely Dustin Moskowitz] $29,917,229

Priorities USA/Priorities USA Action [Hillary backers] $25,841,199

Asana [Moskowitz & Rosenstein] $21,937,902

Sixteen Thirty Fund [dark money] $19,874,655

Democracy PAC [George Soros] $19,000,000

Senate Majority PAC [Democratic billionaires] $12,371,874

American Bridge 21st Century [largely Soros] $10,260,573

Paloma Partners [Donald Sussman] $9,016,248

Euclidean Capital [James Simons]

Known known names:

(((James Simons)))

(((Donald Sussman)))

(((George Soros)))

(((Rosenstein)))

(((Dustin Moskowitz)))

(((Michael Bloomberg)))

"Democratic billionaires" and "dark money" - I'm sure they don't get coincidence marks around their names!

Damn, all of his supporters have cohencidence marks! I'm sure he won't be (((supporting Israel to the hilt))) or anything like that!

We got a money problem in US politics. A money problem, and inside of that money problem, another (((money problem))). It's all just government by bribery, pure corruption and nothing else, buying influence with ca$$$$h. It's the American way after all!

U$$$A! U$$$A! U$$$A! U$$$A!

At the end of the day, it's all about the shekels, as usual.

Posted by: Robert Lindsay | Jan 7 2021 10:18 utc | 141

Capital occupation is being questioned by Jimmy Dore. Good analysis.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2021 10:33 utc | 142

Francis #140


The UKi is off its meds again. The Russians are not coming, not hacking. The Russians are running their country and fairly well at that.

If anyone is hacking the UKi it will be GCHQ or CIA or whatever.

Francis do us a favour, just tell the UKi to take its little red pills and shut up.

Posted by: u | Jan 7 2021 10:38 utc | 143

ooooops

u #143 is me :)

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2021 10:40 utc | 144

The German state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern plans to set up a foundation to help the completion of the Nord Stream 2 (NS2) pipeline to bring Russian gas to Germany and to fend off the threat of increased U.S. sanctions that halted work last year.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-germany-nordstream-foundation/northern-german-state-plans-foundation-to-help-complete-nord-stream-2-gas-link-idUKKBN29B1G7

https://www.bild.de/geld/wirtschaft/politik-inland/putins-pipeline-nord-stream-2-so-will-schwesig-die-us-regierung-austricksen-74231420.bild.html

Posted by: Mao | Jan 7 2021 10:54 utc | 145

@ Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2021 6:47 utc | 128

You're taking it backwards: it's not that Trump was sabotaged because he failed to appease China, it's China that forced the USA to adopt an appeasing position, therefore creating a hostile environment for any anti-China POTUS.

In other words, it's Trump who failed to fuck with China: it's China that actively fucked with Trump.

And it's funny people calling Pence "a traitor": the reason Trump chose him in the first place is obvious, that is, he's from Indiana - a State that gained political prominence as one of the administrative centers of the new, fanatically religious right-wing America (Amy Coney Barrett is from Indiana). Now you're telling me the Christian right betrayed Trump?

Posted by: vk | Jan 7 2021 12:48 utc | 146

I just scrolled over the landfill of boring, trash-heaped, hate-driven comments posted by the crazy Uncle here to inform all that despite dozens of lawsuits filed by Trump trying to delegitimize the election results and despite Trump inciting a coup and his supporters storming the Capitol to stop the Certification of the Electoral College results, and despite a bunch of craven, lying-assed Trumplicans objecting to the results only in the swing states, but not objecting to their wins down ballot, the House and Senate voted and Pence did his job and officially certified at 3:41 A.M. ET that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris will be the next President and Vice-President respectively.

So GET OVER IT.

Now ego-driven manchild Trump has less than 2 weeks to vacate the White House premises and face the world of civil suits and criminal charges coming his way, if he's not expelled before that.

Posted by: Circe | Jan 7 2021 14:10 utc | 147

Somewhat weird title in NYT

"America’s Friends and Foes Express Horror as Capitol Attack ‘Shakes the World’"
Global leaders watched live as a mob stormed the U.S. Capitol,

I imagine reactions on the "foe" side more like that

Three little maids from school are we
Pert as a school-girl well can be
Filled to the brim with girlish glee
Three little maids from school
Everything is a source of fun
Nobody's safe, for we care for none
Life is a joke that's just begun
Three little maids from school

After getting some fill of fun in private, they made commentaries about double standards. How opinion makers were approving, sometimes enthusiastically (especially my favorite Khazarian, Bernard-Henri Lévy), mob attacking election results in Ukraine, Belarus, Venezuela, Bolivia etc., while "expressing horror" when it happens in Paris or DC.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jan 7 2021 14:21 utc | 148

yes circe, after cheating his way with dnc help to the nomination, biden apparently won the election legitimately, given the success of down ballot republicans and the universal rejection by even trump appointed judges of his legal challenges. now if only we can persuade warmonger joe to refrain from attacking russia over election interference that never happened, or destabilizing venezuela, or renewed attempts to overthrow assad, or giving away the store to his donors, or privatizing social security, we will all have a merry next christmas.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 7 2021 14:31 utc | 149

@ alaff | Jan 7 2021 0:57 utc | 75

Lighten up, man. The point is, hostile actions can produce unexpected results, especially when they're dumb hostile actions.

Most certainly, at least some of the sanctions play the role of useful protectionist measures. And having foaming-at-the-mouth all-powerful enemy is useful too; look at them banning government bureaucrats from owning foreign property, having foreign bank accounts, etc. Hell, I'm sure just translating transparently dumb western anti-Russian articles for the Russian audience plays a role.

On balance, I would hesitate to characterize them as harmful.

Posted by: Mao Cheng Ji | Jan 7 2021 15:13 utc | 150

yes circe, after cheating his way with dnc help to the nomination, biden apparently won the election legitimately....

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 7 2021 14:31 utc | 149

To me, it seemed that Biden's primary success was rather legitimate, i.e. according to the rules, while the rules themselves are obviously crooked.

There are two groups of people with key role in "standard" elections in USA. The first are plutocrats who run "money primary" -- there is even a Wikipedia entry that explains what is it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_primary

In other words, plutocrats (and other members of the elite, many plutocrats subcontract brain function to "elite" as they have business to run) line behind their favorites. A charismatic outsider can circumvent that by appeals to thin-walleted masses and organizing volunteers. Plutocrats look at the lists of wannabes, "checking them twice" (laborious, hence "elites" are important), and make their picks that can be reconsidered later. The strategic choice of marketing thrust was: old guard or fresh face.

A fresh face has a better potential for getting the support of "independents" who resent "establishment" and energizing the ranks, but there are other prerequisites, notably how difficult the name is. It is different in a more ethnically uniform country like Poland where people remember long names with ease as they have familiar word roots and phonetics, but "Klobuchar" and "Butti[shoot me, I cannot remember]" were genuinely hard. O'Rourke has an easy name for English speakers and a pleasing appearance, but he failed miserably at that stage (some positions in his early programmed smacked dreaded "radicalism"). But there was still Harris with a passably fresh face and an exquisitely easy last name.

Early primaries weaned out Harris and Yang, Sanders and to some extend Gabbard were still standing, and on the establishment side there was old guard Biden and the long names. Plus Bloomberg who mastered the art of converting huge amounts of money into middling amounts of votes -- enough to win in NYC, but on the national scene ... So after primaries in South Carolina (or before?) plutocrats huddled together to make a pick -- to stop Sanders and still have a pass for winning in November. Then the invisible strings moved the long names, and the "radicals" conceded too inevitable.

At that time there was a serious problem with the mental agility of Biden (does he have any). Somber analysis (I am guessing) showed that given mediocre mental agility on the opposite side it is a minor issue.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jan 7 2021 15:29 utc | 151

Triden looks into the mirror and laughs. The Republicans rigged as much of the election as they could and it still wasn't enough. The majority of the people who voted reject the immoral values of the Tridens. The people who are committed to Trumpery are decisively in the majority of the whole population, as only liars count those who don't vote in their favor.

peltast@109 doubles down on the stupid. Being smart enough to turn on a computer suggests that it is rabid malice that makes peltast so stupid. The failure of the coup does not mean that there was no coup attempt That is an astoundingly ridiculous false conclusion to draw.

"How could such a coup take place?" The Insurrection Act is invoked, the military moves in, the emergency means that the certification has to be delayed as Congress is kept safe. And the military re-runs the election in Arizona, Pennsylvania and Georgia, an idea that Trump had floated previously.

"So could Trump use the Insurrection Act to enact a coup? Could Trump order the military into the streets of the United States and seize power? Overthrow democracy and create a dictatorship?" If the military had agreed to move, yes. Trump replaced the secretary of defense and the secretary of the army with even more corrupt loyalists. The assumption that a coup has to be open military rule without any figleaf, like repeating elections in selected states, is self-serving (or Trump-serving) nonsense.

"What backing would a Trump coup government have? Who would support it?" Given that Trump has had billions of dollars of free publicity from mass media plus open false reporting in his favor from large segments of the mass media, an unrestrained bully pulpit, unstinting support from the Republican Party and its donors, this is shameless rhetoric, in the most pejorative sense. Trump only started losing support in the mass media after he lost the election. Opposition that waits until to kill the wounded isn't opposition in any meaningful sense. The absurd political stunt of decertifying electoral votes had open support from members of Congress. Josh Hawley pumped a fist to the very crowds that rioted in the Capitol. Support for this was widespread. Denying the public record is worse than feeble, it is blatantly dishonest.

"Would business support him? Which industry would benefit from such a coup?" Nobody supports a failed coup. And business and industry would support a successful coup. The lie here is that business, industry would oppose a coup. Dude, so far from being allergic to a coup that would harm their profits, business, industry is allergic to prosecuting the plotters. They aren't even in favor of prosecuting the foot soldiers trashing the Capital. The Republican Party members of the Senate and House of Representatives who supported the coup attempt, who helped Trump incite a riotous attack on democracy as majority rule, should be expelled. If business, industry was so opposed to a coup, they would want to clean house. They don't. Yes, this is a prediction...but only if there is genuine opposition of the kind that counts, can we say that business, industry wouldn't have supported a successful coup. Until I'm refuted by actual facts, peltast's image of business, industry committed to democracy is merely an unsavory respect for the owners, cloaked as fake-left, right-wing cynicism.

"Every former Secretary of Defense has rejected the coup in advance. Do you imagine that even the military, of which Trump is the Commander in Chief, would obey him? If nobody would support such a government after a coup, why would you imagine that any group would carry it out?" The intervention by the bipartisan group of Secretaries of Defense is probably, in my judgment, a major reason the coup failed. I will point out that the idea that fascists and generals are merely puppets of businessmen, instead of delusional people who can imagine they can run things while keeping the rich happy with their profits, is legion. Once again, giving a reason the coup attempt failed is not at all relevant to whether there was a coup attempt, which is the idiotic idea peltast is pushing. No doubt, if you sympathize with a failed coup attempt, and hope for a successful one later, it is tactically wise to pretend there was not even an attempted coup, because surely such a thing is impossible. Also, the idea that "Americans" (and you know who they are, right?) are racially superior to coups, a finer kind of being committed to justice is a nice thought. Formally, it is incompatible with whining about how crooks run things, but coherent thought, rationality are principles fascists/cryptofascists/fascist sympathizers believe in.

"This is the reason that no coup will occur. It is not in the interests of the US ruling class for there to be a coup, and there is no other group that could possibly carry one out." The widespread support for Trumpery for years shows there is support for the final interment of democracy as majority rule. The inevitable refusal to root out the plotters will mean there is continued support for some sort of blatant attack on popular influence on government. There is a tremendous level of support of anti-popular actions like cutting Social Security, in absolute terms not just increases. There is tremendous support for massive numbers of evictions. The need for a government that opposes the people means there is a willingness to consider a coup, which is why there will be no reform of the political system in the wake of the coup attempt. Even as we speak there are generals and colonels thinking Milley or whoever refused to back Trump were disloyal but *they* would have done the Right Thing to save America. There are numbers of Christian bigots in the officer corps who don't think they are serving capital/Mammon, but God when they toy with the idea of the True Patriots running things according to God's will.

Godwin's Law is an internet thing, which means, not a thing at all, much less a genuine "law." The events of July 6 were roughly analogous to the Beer Hall Putsch, a comedy of incompetence and nastiness foiled. But like the Weimar Republic gently slapping Hitler's wrists, letting them get away with it means, yes, it can happen here. Everything else, elaborately rationalized a la peltast or not, is simply denial of facts and logic.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 7 2021 16:09 utc | 152

The contradiction between the majority of the people who voted decisively rejecting Trumpery (third sentence) and the majority of the people committing to Trumpery (the very next sentence) is a typographical error. It should have been "minority" in the fourth sentence.

This sort of thing is why I don't write for real politics, much less for pay.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 7 2021 16:12 utc | 153

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 7 2021 16:12 utc | 153

'It should have been "minority" in the fourth sentence.'

I inferred that, but it was good of you to clear it up.

I think your point is well taken, the fact that it was done in a juvenile and naive manner doesn't mean the intent was not really there. Trump would have no idea if it was going to work or not until he tried it. The alternative is to assume it was supposed to be some kind of conservative art installation. It's been quite a while since I saw coonskin caps and longhorns in the public discourse. Personally, I was rooting for them all the way. Where is Davy Crockett when you need him?

Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 7 2021 17:28 utc | 154

The billionaire's media should end the charade of multiple networks and names.

A good single name for all would be The Pravda. Truth is defined there.

Or the Soros Manifesto?

The Bezos Kleptocrat?


Posted by: Liberty Blogger | Jan 7 2021 18:04 utc | 155

Johnson at 152

Long empty paragraphs pretending the US election was not stolen go nowhere.

Beyond to the obvious fact you savor the return of Obama's 10% world of global killers and thieves.

Scolding by exageration is poor communication.

Posted by: Liberty Blogger | Jan 7 2021 18:23 utc | 156

vk #146

And it's funny people calling Pence "a traitor": the reason Trump chose him in the first place is obvious, that is, he's from Indiana - a State that gained political prominence as one of the administrative centers of the new, fanatically religious right-wing America (Amy Coney Barrett is from Indiana). Now you're telling me the Christian right betrayed Trump?

To clarify - Just think of it from third position: The Christian Right is backing the wishes of Israel.

And today Biden is their chosen one. They are not 'betraying Trump' they are doing new think as instructed. Their pastors (propagandists) will give them new directions from the pulpits.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2021 22:10 utc | 157

Bemildred #154

It's been quite a while since I saw coonskin caps and longhorns in the public discourse. Personally, I was rooting for them all the way. Where is Davy Crockett when you need him?

Funnily enough the coonskin and longhorn chap was also at a BLM demonstration a few months back. Similar face decoration style too. Maybe Davy Crockett is doing 'presences' just to liven up the gig.

Where is Woody Guthrie or Joe Hill when you need them ;)

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2021 22:46 utc | 158

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 7 2021 22:46 utc | 158

"Funnily enough the coonskin and longhorn chap was also at a BLM demonstration a few months back."

I think those are buffalo horns, longhorns are a lot bigger, my mistake.

I don't keep up, but I would be surprised if there are not people on a regular protest circuit here now, with a business plan camera crew and everything. Somebody will be selling franchise all-in-one kits too. Then later, nostalgia tours, "Here on your left is the original site of the CHAZ rebellion". LARP-ing is big thing.

I myself once owned a "toy" coonskin cap, plastic tomahawk, etc. but have since moved on to real things.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 7 2021 23:11 utc | 159

"Like those Soros funded fascist ones?"

There you go again with your bizarre conspiracy theories. Only through the looking glass can anti-fascists be fascists.

@William Gruff 14

Posted by: anonymous | Jan 7 2021 23:38 utc | 160

anonymous @160

Strange world, isn't it? By the way, here is a genuine fascist for you to contemplate:

Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 8 2021 0:12 utc | 161

Remember; None of anti-Russian measures on this long list were initiated by Trump. They were all forced upon him by the Establishment. He had no choice, just as he had no option of bringing back American all soldiers from the overseas. Vetoing any anti-Russian sanction or measure, would have put him on the spot, AND most likely Congress could override his veto.

Posted by: Aren Haich | Jan 8 2021 19:03 utc | 162

Minor foreign policy wins are secondary.
Primary is weakening the US at which Russia has succeeded wildly between disinformation and Donnie as POTUS. We're certainly weaker than we were four years ago so point to Russia.

Posted by: Hart Liss | Jan 9 2021 0:02 utc | 163

For a long time, following the late Robert Parry, and others, I was inclined to believe that Russia had nothing to gain by "interfering" in US politics. Meanwhile, friends who bought into some or all of the Russiagate stories believed "Putin's" aim was to destabilize USA, not necessarily giving advantage to Republicans or Democrats, merely chaos.

After the attempted coup, which featured fast moving kidnappers who nevertheless failed to capture their targets, amidst the bunch of idiots serving as distraction and cover, I was shocked to see basically the entire chorus of Russiagate debunkers, speaking almost in union, defending an attack explicitly aimed at delaying if not scuttling the constitutional transfer of power. That is to say, chaos.

I'm not all of a sudden going to start believing in all the thoroughly debunked at all levels Russiagate stories. But I have serious questions about the affinities, allegiances, and sources used by the surviving chorus of Russiagate debunkers. It seems they have some fundamental attraction to "chaos" after all.

Posted by: Charles Peterson | Jan 10 2021 6:22 utc | 164

And this seeming preference for chaos in the USA, seems also to include various Russian commentators and RT.com as well.

They are now all unmasked, as Russia's version of US "foreign relations." Just as my friends were always trying to tell me.

Posted by: Charles Peterson | Jan 10 2021 6:25 utc | 165

"chorus of Russiagate debunkers, speaking almost in union, defending an attack explicitly aimed at delaying if not scuttling the constitutional transfer of power"

I'm afraid, you're ignoring (deliberately?) the main part of the story: the alleged "steal", that appears to some of us 'highly likely', as they say.


"But I have serious questions about the affinities, allegiances, and sources used by the surviving chorus of Russiagate debunkers."

Yeah? And what about Russiagate enthusiasts?

While the 2016 election was hopelessly compromised by a foreign power -- just as the 2020 election would've been, of course, had The Donald been declared the winner -- the actual 2020 election is suddenly clean as a whistle. Any deep thoughts on that?

Posted by: Mao Cheng Ji | Jan 10 2021 9:55 utc | 166

Mao Cheng Ji@166 "Yeah? And what about Russiagate enthusiasts?

While the 2016 election was hopelessly compromised by a foreign power -- just as the 2020 election would've been, of course, had The Donald been declared the winner -- the actual 2020 election is suddenly clean as a whistle. Any deep thoughts on that?"

This is too good an example of the dishonesty and irrationality of Trumpers to ignore. Charles Peterson's "deep thoughts" on Russiagate enthusiasts were *already stated* @164 "...all the thoroughly debunked at all levels Russiagate stories." Despite explicit statement Peterson won't begin believing all of them, Mao Cheng Ji implies Peterson is endorsing Russiagate with a gotcha! question. At least in the questionable minds of Trumpers. What Mao Cheng Ji imagines would have happened if Trump had won is entirely irrelevant.

The finishing touch on this pile of stupid is that the magical theft (by a universal conspiracy of Democrats and Republicans!) of Trump's landslide in 2020 is even less believable than the Russian's magical theft of Clinton's win in 2016, because Clinton actually did win the vote and Trump just fluked into the Electoral College win. And because Putin by himself giving orders is more believable than all those Democrats and Republicans mystifyingly agreeing on chicanery.

Again, Trumpery is lies, lies, lies.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jan 10 2021 15:33 utc | 167

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