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December 20, 2020

The MoA Week In Review - OT 2020-100

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:

> While Kushner was not a driving force behind AMMC, the source who spoke on a condition of anonymity explained, the joint effort was led by campaign lawyers to reassure a paranoid Trump that no one was taking secret cuts. Parscale, it was thought, should not hold dual roles as head of a company serving as a campaign clearinghouse and campaign manager. Parscale and Kushner both signed off the arrangement, the source confirmed. <

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Other issues:

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Covid-19:

There is a new variant (B.1.1.7) of SARS-CoV-2 circulating in Britain. It seems to be more transmissible and has become the predominant variant. There are no signs so far that it causes a more severe Covid-19 disease or more deaths.

Prof Francois Balloux @BallouxFrancois - 7:02 UTC · Dec 20, 2020
I felt it may be helpful to provide an update on the new #COVID19 lineages in the UK and in SA that might both be more contagious than any #SARSCoV2 in circulation until recently. Those comments should be considered preliminary as the evidence available to me is still sketchy.
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Nick Stripe @NickStripe_ONS - 21:39 UTC · Dec 19, 2020
I have seen the table below being widely shared to falsely imply that deaths are no higher than normal this year
The table is both factually incorrect and misleading
Those who created it deliberately sow confusion and doubt
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M4A:

Syria:

Saudi Arabia:

Use as open thread ...

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Christoforou YT: "Patrick Byrne at the White House gives scoop on Trump-Powell meeting" (last friday night, shouting match with Gen Flynn [Patrick Byrne], and Barr longtime associate-acolyte /deepstate mole/NYT leaker(?) WH Gen Counsel Pat Cippolone).

Mostly a rundown of stuff orignially appearing in Citizen Free Press, but also impending announcement from Chief of Staff Mark Meadows:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDZVth9vlFc (11.5 min)

Posted by: gm | Dec 23 2020 1:28 utc | 201

i see trump was true to form giving a pardon to blackwater people for murdering innocents, while ignoring a pardon for assange and snowden.. clearly trump is and was the same as all the previous rot that has inhabited the white house... it will be no different with biden either, if he lasts his term, or even if the financial empires choice - kamala - gets in... it will be biz as usual...

Posted by: james | Dec 23 2020 2:06 utc | 202

karlof1 #137 - grieved #142 - james #145

Wow that was a good read. Thank you and I spotted a fine take away:-

The US Pluto return happens in 2022. That’s massive. It’s a cycle of approximately 247 years. Pluto has a sense of fate to it. The return of the lord of the underworld also speaks of the return of that which was repressed, hidden or rejected. It will have three exact hits throughout 2022, and the final and definitive of the next Pluto cycle has the planet of death and regeneration facing Black Moon Lilith in Cancer, in opposition. Karma is a bitch and hits home.

Laughter followed.... a pun inside a portent wrapped around a planet. Good stuff.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 23 2020 2:16 utc | 203

RE: Posted by: james | Dec 23 2020 2:06 utc | 202

Both you and I would be relying on 15 yr old flakk put out by the then-embedded GWB mockingbird media.

Suggest we hold judgement and fire vis a vis Assange Snowden Manning pardons until AFTER the deepstate takes over.

Posted by: gm | Dec 23 2020 2:26 utc | 204

Err... meant to say chaff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaff_(countermeasure)

Posted by: gm | Dec 23 2020 2:36 utc | 205

susan and karlof1 on the 5,600 page bill that somewhere included some covid relief.

AOC complains that the bill was delivered at the last moment and there was inadequate time to consider. Yet AOC won't vote against Pelosi. !?!

Who schedules legislation to come before the House? Pelosi does.
Who auctions off the spare space for additional legislation for unrelated things? Pelosi does.
Who is pretending that no one gets to hear of House committee deliberations or even has a clue as to what is coming? AOC does

Only one of the squad voted against its inadequacy - Rashida Tlaib. Good for her.

The mechanism of the bills transmission is one where all manner of lobbyists get to 'arrange' for Pelosi to agree to add ons. If Pelosi is not tipped then Pelosi will make it clear to the committee people that the add on is to be dropped. This is where the rot starts and how it destroys the USAi.

These are the Dimoratss - this is their game - they sell rights of passage to legislation and attach as much pay as you go addendums that they deem fit.

This the rot in the heart of the legislative procedure of the USAi.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 23 2020 3:05 utc | 206

james #202

Trump is lower than a rattlesnakes belly as is the Harris Biden clown cart. I did not expect a pardon for anyone other than Trumps close mates and others who may have $ufficient ca$h to $hare. That is what Trump is - no different to Biden Harris or Obummer.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 23 2020 3:09 utc | 207

@Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 23 2020 3:09 utc | 207

1. Watch this space

2. How do you like your Crow prepared?

Posted by: gm | Dec 23 2020 3:21 utc | 208

@ Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 23 2020 0:22 utc | 199

Michel Hudson gives Veblen credit for ferreting out the real estate vested interest problem developing in society which post-classical economists opportunistically ignored as externalities not of significance. Veblen also criticized the moronic thinking that came, as Hudson put it, “to plague post-classical economics as ‘trained incapacity’: the condition of being trained not to recognize the important causal factors at work.”

Here’s the end of the1924 book. It’s as though he sees the three lettered agencies on the horizon decades before their birth.

“Statecraft as a gainful pursuit has always been a furtive enterprise. And in due proportion as the nation’s statecraft is increasingly devoted to the gainful pursuit of international intrigue it will necessarily take on a more furtive character, and will conduct a larger proportion of its ordinary work by night and cloud. Which leads to a substitution of coercion in the place of consultation in the dealings of the official personnel with their underlying population, whether in domestic or foreign policy; and such coercion is increasingly accepted in a complaisant, if not a grateful, spirit by the underlying population, on a growing conviction that the national integrity is best provided for by night and cloud. So therefore it also follows that any overt expression of doubt as to the national expediency of any obscure transaction or line of transactions entered into by the official personnel in the course of this clandestine traffic in gainful politics, whether at home or abroad, will presumptively be seditious; and unseasonable inquiry into the furtive movements of the official personnel is by way of becoming an actionable offense ; since it is to be presumed that, for the good of the nation, no one outside of the official personnel and the business Interests in collusion can bear any intelligent part in the management of these delicate negotiations, and any premature intimation of what is going on is likely to be '‘information which may be useful to the enemy.” Any pronounced degree of skepticism touching the expediency of any of the accomplished facts of political intrigue or administrative control is due to be penalised as obnoxious to the common good. In the upshot of it all, the paramount rights, powers, aims, and immunities of ownership, or at least those of absentee ownership, come in for a closer identification with the foundations of the national establishment and are hedged about with a double conviction of well-doing.
“In that strategy of businesslike curtailment of output, debilitation of industry, and capitalisation of overhead charges, which is entailed by the established system of ownership and bargaining, the constituted authorities in all the democratic nations may, therefore, be counted on to lend their unwavering support to all manoeuvres of business-as-usual, and to disallow any transgression of or departure from business principles. Nor should there seem any probability that the effectual run of popular sentiment touching these matters will undergo any appreciable change in the calculable future. The drift of workday discipline, as well as of deliberate instruction, sets in the conservative direction. For the immediate future the prospect appears to offer a fuller confirmation in the faith that business principles that the businesslike control of the industrial system in detail should presently reach, if it has not already reached, and should speedily pass beyond that critical point of chronic derangement in the aggregate beyond which a continued pursuit of the same strategy on the same businesslike principles will result in a progressively widening margin of deficiency in the aggregate material output and a progressive shrinkage of the available means of life.” (444-445)

https://archive.org/details/AbsenteeOwnershipAndBusinessEnterprise/page/n327/mode/2up


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Chris Hedges uses a quote in his essay this week, The Great Delusion, that captures the spirit of your earlier comment as I understand it:

“One of the most pathetic aspects of human history is that every civilization expresses itself most pretentiously, compounds its partial and universal values most convincingly, and claims immortality for its finite existence at the very moment when the decay which leads to death has already begun.” Reinhold Niebuhr

Posted by: suzan | Dec 23 2020 3:42 utc | 209

@ 203 uncle t.... yeah - the pluto return is interesting... i had asked this previously about whether empires last any longer then this approx 250 cycle.. we'll see..

@ 208 gm... i am fine with crow... i feel sorry for the crow - but i'll take it if it comes.. i can't see it myself..

thanks both of you for the conversation..

Posted by: james | Dec 23 2020 3:50 utc | 210

"@ 208 gm... i am fine with crow... i feel sorry for the crow - but i'll take it if it comes.. i can't see it myself.."

- james | Dec 23 2020 3:50 utc | 210

And I am fine with all the Pluto astrology banter...just Please don't drink the PLUTO WATER Kool Aid that Biden[Deepstate] won/stole it fair and square. OK?

Posted by: gm | Dec 23 2020 4:55 utc | 211

As one of the little people, I commend Trump for one thing, his speech on Twitter that I have just watched. And to all who voted for that monstrosity of a bill - I don't know you; how could you have done this?

All I can do is repeat what uncle tungsten says @ 206 above:

"susan and karlof1 on the 5,600 page bill that somewhere included some covid relief.

AOC complains that the bill was delivered at the last moment and there was inadequate time to consider. Yet AOC won't vote against Pelosi. !?!

Who schedules legislation to come before the House? Pelosi does.
Who auctions off the spare space for additional legislation for unrelated things? Pelosi does.
Who is pretending that no one gets to hear of House committee deliberations or even has a clue as to what is coming? AOC does

Only one of the squad voted against its inadequacy - Rashida Tlaib. Good for her.

The mechanism of the bills transmission is one where all manner of lobbyists get to 'arrange' for Pelosi to agree to add ons. If Pelosi is not tipped then Pelosi will make it clear to the committee people that the add on is to be dropped. This is where the rot starts and how it destroys the USAi.

These are the Dimoratss - this is their game - they sell rights of passage to legislation and attach as much pay as you go addendums that they deem fit.

This the rot in the heart of the legislative procedure of the USAi."

Cry, the beloved country.

Posted by: juliania | Dec 23 2020 6:10 utc | 212

@212 juliania

Oh puh leez, quit with the Trump koolaid bullshit already!

Trump is threatening to veto the Relief Bill 2 days before Christmas after weeks and weeks of ignoring it and watching McConnell and Mnuchin whittle it down and not giving a damn! You think there's merit in that??!

This is Trump conniving stagecraft!

Now at the 11th hour he's putting on a show demanding that the stimulus payments be raised to $2000.

BUT...you CONVENIENTLY, and disingenuously of course, left out that Nancy Pelosi immediately tweeted out she wants the Bill with the $2000 stimulus brought to the floor for unanimous consent!

Good! Now the ball is in McConnell and Trump's court.

Trump is doing this for one person only: TRUMP and not out of the kindness of his blacker than black heart. If he gave a damn, he would have demanded that McConnell not cut the stimulus payments to $600 before this, but he was too busy with WH super spreader parties and trying to steal the election! This Bill could have been finalized weeks ago if he spoke up sooner! Damn selfserving bastard!

He's doing it now partly to get back at McConnell and humiliate him for formally declaring Biden President-Elect rather than supporting Trump's attempted coup.

So now McConnell is backed between a rock and a hard place: override Trump's veto and look the Grinch or raise the stimulus payment and let Trump get all the credit for doing nothing all these weeks while the bill was being hammered out and McConnell and Trump's minion Mnuchin were chipping away at it like the misers they are.

If Trump delays the signing just for stagecraft and grandstanding which this is, and to get wider approval to pull off his coup or set himself up for 2024, and it doesn't pass before Christmas he will end up an even bigger loser than he is now!

The Dems should bring the $2000 stimulus to the floor right away for unanimous consent, then wipe the floor with McConnell when he knocks it down and throw that self-indulgent Presidential pretender bum in the White House OUT on his pompous ass!

Posted by: Circe | Dec 23 2020 7:16 utc | 213

gm #208

That is a challenging question. I don't mind eating crow and am happy to do so if it is a benefit for the planet. I know exactly how to prepare crow without one quill sticking in my teeth. If I must eat it then all you need do is deliver the ingredients and I can do the rest. I suggest you try bush turkey but I sense you are not a Demoratss supporter.

I await your hamper, and Merry Solstice to you and all the barflies.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 23 2020 7:49 utc | 214

Trump just pardoned 4 Blackwater criminals accused of war crimes, 2 border patrol agents who committed cold-blooded murder and 4 Trumplican Congressmen accused of some of the worst kind of corruption while holding office! These are the worst creatures in the SWAMP.

And you think 2 days before Christmas he's suddenly f*cking Santa Claus just because he wants to look good serving himself with a $2000 lip service that he knows won't ride with his Republicants in the Senate??!

How stupid do you think people are??? People were in bread lines for weeks while he was dining and wining at WH Christmas parties and conniving a coup! And now at the 11th hour he shows up trying to con us into believing he f*cking cares when this is tantamount to a bribe by lip service??!🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Posted by: Circe | Dec 23 2020 7:50 utc | 215

As a congressman ... "you can make ten years of progress in one year if you are not afraid"

Who said that? AOC said that.

and Jimmy Dore is asking what went wrong...

#forcethevote

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 23 2020 9:02 utc | 216

Is any aware of the therm-optical method capable to detect the presence of corona virus in a room which the Air quality and Particle Technology Group in ETH Zurich has developed.. its an optical biosensor, that uses thermal effects to detect the virus safely and reliably?

My reading suggest the detector couples photothermal and plasmon resonance technology on a tiny, 2D, gold nano island (AuNI chip) which chip is embedded in glass and armed with the DNA sequence <=to be detected. When the sequence t/b detected hybridizes with the sequence pattern being detected, the Refractive index Changes to confirm the presence of the viral sequence.
Using Two source angles to excite the process has made SARS-COV vs SARS-CoV-2 RNA discrimination easy as pie. Have a look at www.odi.org/10.1021/acsnano.0c02439 <=this kind of technology means public places, schools, railways, meetings, airplanes, etc. can be made safe.. from not just Corona virus but from many kinds of biologically dangerous airborne contaminants.

Once again I say it is stupid to depend on vaccination against viral insult because the source of the insult changes and operates outside of the detection and affection range of the design theory associated with the vaccination. Besides, I an mot certain the virus is a problem this Pandemic looks more and more every day like a Pneumonia cocci bacterial problem. Anyway Big Pharma Stock values are in jeapordy.

Posted by: snake | Dec 23 2020 10:12 utc | 217

"To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole." --Robert H. Jackson, Nuremberg

"There’s a lot of us who voted for giving the president the authority to take down Saddam Hussein if he didn’t disarm. And there are those who believe... we still have to take him down." --War whore Biden (2003)

Pardoning murderers is bad, but at the end of the day who really are the murderers? We resolved at Nuremberg that responsibility didn't stop with the guy holding the gun. There is no way to make war morally sterile and "clean". The very act of supporting a war contains murder within it. If you voted for Biden then you voted to make a murderer President. You have even more blood on your hands than do those hired guns.

Pardoning murderers is bad.
Voting for murderers is unforgivable.

Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 23 2020 10:19 utc | 218

Trump who is a well known scoundrel is giving the 5600 word Bill for 'covid relief' a serious analysis:

Barflies might consider Trumps analysis in this video from The Hill

It would be amusing if it were not for the fact that the USA people are in a crisis. This is a disgraceful system of legislative opportunism by every party to it.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 23 2020 10:40 utc | 219

Trump is handing out pardon like candy yet not one for Julian Assange, the one who helped his election chance in 2016.

Sad!

Posted by: Smith | Dec 23 2020 11:00 utc | 220

Trump just pardoned 4 Blackwater criminals accused of war crimes, 2 border patrol agents who committed cold-blooded murder and 4 Trumplican Congressmen accused of some of the worst kind of corruption while holding office! These are the worst creatures in the SWAMP.

There are worse swamp creatures. These are tiddlers,mall fry, dutiful servants of the oligarchs.

Some get distracted by these asides while the real criminals in the Fed, Wall Street, CIA, NSA etc get away with wholesale butchery. So I am more interested in what Trump did not do, did not stop, did not care about. The other party is no different.

War in Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan etc,
Sanctions throughout the world that are illegal and murderous of thousands if not millions,
Trade wars that escalate global tensions and are in themselves a crime against humanity.

So I choose never to let Trump and the oligarchs of the USAi off the hook for being a war criminal, a capital criminal, a sociopath, a scumbag of the highest order. Its not the pimps that matter here or should be the object of distraction, its the real killers we should be going after - the Capos or the Doges.

Concerned citizens should ask why is Les Wexner free to walk the streets? He is the Capo of the Epstein spy and blackmail ring and never gets outed by the local TDS distractor.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 23 2020 11:06 utc | 221

from the bbc live, as in money smell(ed) so good:


There’s something of an awkward hunt going on in Switzerland: for British tourists.

Thousands have been arriving to spend Christmas here, taking advantage of the controversial Swiss decision to keep slopes open.

The upmarket resort of Verbier is especially popular with Brits. But now the new Covid 19 strain – and evidence it could be much more infectious - has changed things dramatically.

Swiss health authorities have told UK citizens arriving after 14 December to "render" themselves into quarantine or risk a 10,000 franc (9224 euros, £8374) fine.

Airlines must hand over passenger lists and hotels should, it seems, confine guests to their rooms. But in Verbier things seem relaxed, its well-heeled visitors don’t seem concerned about the fine.

Posted by: Mina | Dec 23 2020 13:26 utc | 222

It appears the vaccine narrative is getting derailed. So a new dangerous covid19 variation is found which targets children and young people. So please be sheeple and get your vaccine to the next generation so that that generation may not generate any further. See the WHO narrative coming soon for worldwide release on MSM.
Rao

Posted by: Rao | Dec 23 2020 13:33 utc | 223

"The Dems should bring the $2000 stimulus to the floor right away for unanimous consent, then wipe the floor with McConnell "

-Posted by: Circe | Dec 23 2020 7:16 utc | 213


On that we share common ground.

I would throw in full emergency universal gov-paid health care (ie the Japan Plan) until the covid pandemic went away.

[I predict the 'Covid Never-ending Crisis' would soon be 'disappeared' if the Deepstate-controlled govmt had to foot the bill for it]

Posted by: gm | Dec 23 2020 13:40 utc | 224

Uncle T.

What's the difference between one Zionist billionaire and another who buy political power and screw democracy. I've already addressed this issue over a thousand times.

There is one President right now who has proven to be a Ziofascist gift that keeps on giving to Zionist expansion trying to pull off a coup now using lip service $2000 bribery for the masses AT THE 11TH HOUR to make himself look good when he attempts with his Congress minions in January to steal an election with public support.

Then if he succeeds Ziofascism will be locked in to conduct war on Iran and more war crimes activity he will surely pardon again and again. The oddly placed M4A push that would die in the Senate, that you pretend to care so much about and is supposedly the be all to end all purity tests for the Left while a coup is underway in the middle of urgently required relief funds negotiations, is really a hand grenade meant to blow up the growing progressive influence, which is a real threat to Zionism right before Trump attempts to cement absolute Zionist power.

Good luck with your duplicity...NOT.

@224 gm

Nope. If McConnell gets a last minute conversion to put the $2000 stimulus through why give him the M4A excuse he can use to kill it all?

Posted by: Circe | Dec 23 2020 14:22 utc | 225

So what really went right with Belarus?

Is it really good border control?

Posted by: Smith | Dec 23 2020 14:57 utc | 226

Posted by: Smith | Dec 23 2020 14:57 utc | 227

1.) I would not assume it is over yet, but

2.) Lukasheko came to his senses and stopped playing footsie with "the West", I expect he will try to follow the Kazakh model now, become an enlightened overlord no longer active in governing,

3.) It was always a fraud, not enough disgruntled Belorussians, so lots of hired help. Typical Trump operation, all hat no cattle as they say.

Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 23 2020 15:12 utc | 227

Alexei Navalny

Does anyone else feel nervous for this guy?

Clearly he is an asset for the Western intelligence services.

When an asset is drained of usefulness there remains a service he can provide for his handlers -
die in a false-flag.

Timing is key to effect. Is the beginning of Biden's term (should that happen) such a time?

Stay safe, Alexei.

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Putin just remarked very publicly that (roughly) "if Russia had wanted to kill Navalny then he would be dead".
Possible future post-false-flag headline: "Putin bragged he could make Navalny dead"

You chose dangerous friends, Alexei.

Stay safe

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All the above is pure speculation. Obviously.

Posted by: librul | Dec 23 2020 18:27 utc | 228

suzan @209--

Thanks for providing that excerpt. Veblen was indeed prescient! I see that Trump has called out Congress for passing that disgusting bill and demanded better. He may pocket veto the thing as he now has the high ground in the eyes of the public. I'm having connectivity issues and may post little today, but I want to reiterate my point that the Duopoly's weakest point and the one major area of policy where Reds and Blues agree is on the need for a universal healthcare policy that goes beyond Medicare For All, Medicare having huge holes in it making it a poor platform, although better than nothing for most people.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 23 2020 19:04 utc | 229

librul | Dec 23 2020 18:27 utc | 230

"Putin just remarked very publicly that (roughly) "if Russia had wanted to kill Navalny then he would be dead"."

In the Duran 96 min 'live-chat' YT post I shared at #182 above, I neglected to highlight what Putin said in response (as related by Alexander Mercouris, who apparently understands Russian) to reporters' questions about the latest chapter of the Navalny saga.

I time-indexed the YT to start at the beginning of the Putin/Navalny discussion

https://youtu.be/tbyTpaUrlnA?t=634

Posted by: gm | Dec 23 2020 19:13 utc | 230

librul,
Who cares about Navalny?

I think you are misrepresenting what Putin meant.
He was pointing out that if Russia cared to kill Navalny then he would be dead.
Point being they don't give a hoot about him.

Posted by: arby | Dec 23 2020 19:40 utc | 231

Global Times has two articles about the need for Russia/China cooperation and how it should be composed. "China and Russia need to cooperate facing bossy US" and "China-Russia strategic ties to be strengthened, sending strong signal to new US govt":

"The China-Russia strategic ties should remain close and strengthened to handle increasing pressure from the US, even if Biden might ease tensions with Beijing, analysts noted.

"The more turbulent the world becomes, the more stable China-Russia relations should be, said Chinese State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi in a phone conversation with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Tuesday, and they also slammed the suppression by the US against the two countries.

"Wang said 'the US is still wielding the stick of unilateral sanctions and going against the trend of the times, and will only leave more disgraceful records in the world.'

"Lavrov also expressed strong opposition to the US move to undermine multilateralism. He said China and Russia should resist US suppression, and make joint efforts to safeguard the common interests of the two sides and maintain international stability and cooperation."

Hopefully, domestic turmoil within the Outlaw US Empire will occupy the time of Biden/Harris and force them to withdrawal from the global arena.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 23 2020 20:23 utc | 232

The world's second largest hydrochloroquine producing factory has just exploded in Taiwan,while nobelized and internationally recognized doctors in France are being put in psychiatric asylums,or thrown out of the order of medicine for opposing the new vaccins.This while the fascist macron government speedpasses a law that prohibits public transport to non-covid vaxxed.Happy Christmas everybody and may the new year witness the total demise of Washington,Paris and London.

Posted by: willie | Dec 23 2020 20:49 utc | 233

@ willie | Dec 23 2020 20:49 utc | 235 who forgot places like NY, the Vatican, etc. but the demise thoughts are good.

I just want those demise thoughts channeled to the elite that own global private finance and everything else that those in the Fortune 500 do not. And to be quite clear, I wish persons no harm but the concept of "private finance" in our 8 billion plus human world is barbaric to be polite.

It is nice to see more cracks in the edifice of empire exceptionalism and we can only hope they turn into structural failure so humanity can pick up the pieces and move on with this evolution thing.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 23 2020 21:27 utc | 234

hey willie! good to hear from you and merry christmas to you too... if you feel like reading the brexit thread where laguerre makes a number of comments on macron that i don't share) and have some feedback on that - i would be curious.. thanks..

Posted by: james | Dec 23 2020 21:36 utc | 235

Jimmy Responds to AOC Gate Keeping Medicare 4 All (The Jimmy Dore Show, December 22, 2020)

Posted by: S | Dec 23 2020 21:50 utc | 236

#ForceTheVote w/ Kyle Kulinski and Justin Jackson (Briahna Gray’s Bad Faith, December 21, 2020)

Posted by: S | Dec 23 2020 22:19 utc | 237

arby @233: "He was pointing out that if Russia cared to kill Navalny then he would be dead."

Yes, of course, but you are misunderstanding the point that librul @230 was making. No matter how Navalny dies now a significant portion of the US and EU population will believe that Putin is personally responsible. Vilifying Putin, and by extension Russia, has value to the US empire. If Navalny's value to the United States as a dead man whose death can be blamed on Russia rises higher than Navalny's value as a living "opposition figure" then the US (CIA goons) will kill him and the Mockingbird mass media will sing in chorus "Putin did it!"

librul @230 is absolutely correct to be concerned about this. Navalny will never be able to operate as an "opposition figure" in Russia again, so his value to the USA alive has dropped dramatically. It is certain that the CIA will liquidate this asset to maximize "return on investment". They might even whip up a batch of Novichok (if they have not already) to do it with.

Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 24 2020 0:37 utc | 238

@William Gruff

And Navalnyy is too dumb to understand that. Were he smart, he would have never left Russia where he had been shadowed 24/7 by a team of FSB officers tasked with protecting his life—the very team he is now accusing of having poisoned him.

Posted by: S | Dec 24 2020 2:46 utc | 239

* had been → was being

Posted by: S | Dec 24 2020 2:49 utc | 240

@willie | Dec 23 2020 20:49 utc | 235

Happy Christmas everybody and may the new year witness the total demise of Washington,Paris and London.

Merry Christmas Willie (and everybody else), I am with you 100% on that wish for the new year. May it also include the demise of NATO and OPCW.

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 24 2020 6:27 utc | 241

@William Gruff | Dec 24 2020 0:37 utc | 240

librul @230 is absolutely correct to be concerned about this. Navalny will never be able to operate as an "opposition figure" in Russia again, so his value to the USA alive has dropped dramatically. It is certain that the CIA will liquidate this asset to maximize "return on investment". They might even whip up a batch of Novichok (if they have not already) to do it with.

Under the present insane circumstances, this is not just a possibility, it is a "highly likely" scenario. Navalnys best hope now is that this prediction is published far and wide, otherwise it is certain to happen (it may happen anyway).

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 24 2020 6:35 utc | 242

@uncle tungsten | Dec 22 2020 7:17 utc | 161

The early pharaohs of Egypt practiced sonic healing and there are relics at Saqqara of audio chambers as I understand. Not just the extraordinary large boxes but in other structures where one lies on a stone platform and rests the head inside a resonant cavity.

Those who are not familiar with the massive (100 ton) granite boxes in the underground tunnels of the Serapeum of Saqqara in Egypt should spend some time considering this deep mystery. It is true that resonance is a recurring theme in megalithic sites such as Saqqara (see video below) and Giza, and even in Peru. But the main thing about the 27 or so extremely large boxes at Saqqara is that they weigh about 100 ton each and are made from single piece blocks of very hard granite stone taken from Aswan in Southern Egypt, more than 700 miles away from Saqqara. They are placed in very narrow bedrock tunnels and the surfaces are machined and polished to near perfect flatness and 90 degree angles, even on the inside. We could not even make this today, so the idea that the pharaos made them is not credible.

The Amazing Massive Megalithic Boxes In The Serapeum At Saqqara Egypt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWpXj_R5xpc

Those boxes are much older than the Pharaos of 3000 BC

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 24 2020 7:01 utc | 243

Navalny
- Linked to the Integrity Initiative through Ashurkov
- Linked to regime change operations because he went to the Yale World Fellowship program in 2010
- He trusts the western secret services to explain the nature of the russian actions to him.
- He trusts Bellingcat.

So one can consider three claims
- there is a relation of trust which makes him an ally of the West. This is a pretty solid claim
- whether Bellingcat is deceiving us here or simply being used as a front for the secret services to expose real act can be debated. I'd put my money on it that this latest phone call is a deception but I cannot prove this and I doubt if hard proof will become available. Well maybe the real Russian person sounds different.
- Whether Navalny himself is complicit in the deception can also be debated.
There is always a fluid relation between gullibility and complicitness. Are journalists deceiving us or are they just trusting the wrong people? if often is hard to figure out while at the same time making no difference in the outcome.

Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Dec 24 2020 9:51 utc | 244

Norwegian #243

Thank you, the boxes were inscribed on their exterior faces in a crude form. I agree their age possibly predatesthe pharaonic period, however there is little evidence to say with certainty.

Lidar scanning of that site indicates two further levels below but the secrecy smothers adequate inquiry.

John Anthony West did some considerable research as well and his books give powerful insight.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 24 2020 10:52 utc | 245

@Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 24 2020 0:37 utc | 238

Thx for clarifying my point.

@Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 24 2020 6:35 utc | 242


Under the present insane circumstances, this is not just a possibility, it is a "highly likely" scenario. Navalnys best hope now is that this prediction is published far and wide, otherwise it is certain to happen (it may happen anyway).

Thus we are obligated to publish our concerns on additional websites, even those which we may have eschewed in the past.

Posted by: librul | Dec 24 2020 13:40 utc | 246

@uncle tungsten | Dec 24 2020 10:52 utc | 245

We can indeed say with certainty that the boxes predate the dynastic (=pharaonic) period.

First, the dynastic Egyptians did not have the technology to transport or create those boxes with the level of precision they display, ref. Christopher Dunn's work on that subject. 'Conventional' history says that the Egyptians had no more advanced tools than copper chisels. You cannot create high precision granite boxes with soft copper chisels or transport 100 ton boxes 700 miles at a time when it is said to predate the invention of the wheel...

Second, the crude hieroglyph inscriptions on some of the boxes prove that the boxes are at least as old as the dynastic egyptians (since they scribbled on the boxes). In reality the precision of the boxes imply they must be coming from a civilisation with much higher level of technological sophistication. That civilisation probably disappeared approximately 12800 years ago when a comet or asteroid hit present day Michigan, USA, erased the North American megafauna, created world wide megatsunamis ("the flood") and started the Younger Dryas cold period that lasted ~1200 years.

In other words, the world history we have been taught is at best incomplete, one could say it is completely wrong. Once you figure that out, you realise that there is a lot of evidence all over the world for a previous world wide civilisation with a high level of technological sophistication. A small subset of such places include Sachsahuaman and Ollantaytambo (Peru), Puma Punku (Bolivia), Easter Island (Chile), Plain of Jars (Laos), Longyou Caves (China), Hoysaleswara Temple (India), Petra (Jordan), Stone of the pregnant woman at Baalbek (Lebanon), Gobekli Tepe (Turkey), Giza pyramids (Egypt), Serapeum at Saqqara (Egypt). The list goes on and on.

Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 24 2020 14:15 utc | 247

IMO, librul seems much more concerned about Navalny's welfare than any problems his death may cause.
From what I have seen, Nalvany is basically a nobody in Russia and is only promoted here in the west as some kind of important Russian opposition leader.

Posted by: arby | Dec 24 2020 15:14 utc | 248

arby @248

Yes, Navalny is a nobody in Russia, but if he were to die in a hit-and-run car accident this evening what would happen? What would the unanimous chant from the mass media be? How would the political establishments in the US and Europe react?

You know full well what the response would be to Navalny's death. As worthless as he is to Russia, he is far less of a liability to Russia alive than he is dead. It confuses me that one cannot see this distinction, as it seems very obvious.

Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 24 2020 17:44 utc | 249

I am not blind Gruffy, I see it.

Nonetheless I have no inclination to start posting anywhere I can that Nalvany should be careful because the CIA might do him in.

What would happen? More sanctions? More Russia Bad press?

Posted by: arby | Dec 24 2020 19:50 utc | 250

Nalvany is a cog in the wheel of constant confrontation with a nuclear armed power.

Concern for his welfare is stupid.

Posted by: arby | Dec 25 2020 0:09 utc | 251

arby @250: "What would happen? More sanctions? More Russia Bad press?"

Yes, the wedge being driven between Europe and Russia would get hammered in further, and the American empire would get that practically for free since Navalny's value as a living person is going negative for the empire.

The concern is not for Navalny, it is for Russia and, frankly, for what remains of western civilization.

Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 25 2020 0:22 utc | 252

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