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December 03, 2020

Open Thread 2020-95

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Posted by: Framarz | Dec 5 2020 9:57 utc | 296


- it’s the missing link in an all Asian front against ZioImperialist hegemony, Zionist Apartheid regime has been investing a lot to keep this going on
- India seems to be the place where the global implementation of the “Great Reset” starts

The Indians, like the Chinese, only play the game with the Zionists while it's profitable and brings them no problems. The day India has to sacrifice their own on the altar of the Zionist's mammon is the day they walk away and take their profits with them.

They still remember the last white raj, and are not so eager for yet another European colonisation.

Trust me, when it comes to the crunch, the Zionists will find themselves alone in Asia with not even India by their side.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 5 2020 12:42 utc | 301

Mac @MacDeMagnet

The world is watching

Sky News tells Australians don’t believe CNN or New York Times because the Election isn’t over the American Media is willfully misleading the public.

[VIDEO]

https://twitter.com/MacDeMagnet/status/1334178684144594946

Posted by: Mao | Dec 5 2020 12:53 utc | 302

XtinawithaK @xtinawitha

So now we have to listen to our news from Australia because at least they give ALL the info which we can't get from 99.9% of American media outlets..... pitiful

https://twitter.com/xtinawitha/status/1334478901792432129

Posted by: Mao | Dec 5 2020 12:56 utc | 303

I am seeing rumors and reports with vague sources stating a ranking mossad staff or even spychief was taken out. Perhaps not perhaps not.

NJH

Posted by: NJH | Dec 5 2020 14:01 utc | 304

@ Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 5 2020 7:02 utc | 285

Do you know why Biden chose the number 100?

Because that was how long it took for China to defeat the pandemic (January 1st - April 13th) - rounding up, to the most marketable number.

The USA, deep down, knows China did the right thing. They're silently copying the Chinese. Classical case of "they hate us cause they ain't us".

Posted by: vk | Dec 5 2020 14:11 utc | 305

@ Cyril | Dec 5 2020 8:39 utc | 291

Thank you ever so much for providing Wm. Gruff's nostrum for (fill in your appropriate adjective of choice). It took two exercises and the page was greatly reduced to a readable state. This worked with Yandex on MacBook Pro. I will forever be appreciative for this gem, it allows lurking in peace. May your festive season be blessed and prosperous be your New Year.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Dec 5 2020 14:32 utc | 306

from ZH--

" Through 2020, when student loan obligations were halted due to the coronavirus, he paid $190,000 on an original debt of $79,000. His current balance? The aforementioned $236,000."

and his final paragraph---

"Chris made mistakes, but as he’s noticed, so have other types of borrowers. “It doesn't appear that we seem to hesitate much in giving money to Ford or Chrysler, or a collection of banks,” he says, citing bankruptcies, bailouts, and other programs.

“They have tools,” he says, “the individual does not.”"


Socialism for the rich

Posted by: arby | Dec 5 2020 15:03 utc | 307

@283 I'm sure the Canadian judge is in close contact with Trudeau. Maybe he's looking for a way out of the Hua Wei mess. Maybe he never liked doing Trump's bidding in the first place. They sure dragged those extradition proceedings out.

Posted by: dh | Dec 5 2020 15:34 utc | 308

dh @ 309

More likely IMO the US thinks the prosecution may lose the case and they want to salvage something.

I hope Meng refuses and wins the case. Thereafter she sues Canada for millions.

Posted by: arby | Dec 5 2020 15:59 utc | 309

@304 NJH

I am seeing rumors and reports with vague sources stating a ranking mossad staff or even spychief was taken out. Perhaps not perhaps not.

Could you or anybody else provide more info, any place to read more about these rumours?

Posted by: Framarz | Dec 5 2020 16:05 utc | 310

trumpy2 @ 288 "stop stalking me it's disfuctional" so it is illusion of grandeur w a healthy dose of delusional fuck"

trumpy2 @ 290 "lets hear the right speak on Zionism" well I aint except according to you.

This rightwing trump bootlicker checks labels and does not buy anything from the settler state

This rightwing trump bootlicker had my fund manager(much to her exasperation) provide proof that none of my meager investments were associated w said settler state.

This rightwing trump bootlicker has RL friends who were kidnaped in international waters and spent time in a Zionist detention center.

This rightwing trump bootlicker is aware that approaches like yours and especially Trumpie with a C's turn more people AWAY from the subject than towards it. That's a fact. which is interesting as I would think one would like to attract more to a cause as opposed to turn them away like yer bosslady.

This rightwing trump bootlicker knows the easily proved truth that if one identifies as "left" or "Right" differences of opinion DO NOT equate the other as polar opposites.

As to holding our breath, I wish you would, not so yer dead or anything because that's not what I want. more so u could react to others with less emotional baggage from the victim chip on yer shoulder.

Its actually a choice that YOU get to make.


Posted by: Tannenhouser | Dec 5 2020 16:13 utc | 311

vk@305 - That is pretty lame man. I can't believe you posted that. You pulled two random dates out of your ass, and then "rounded up" to a marketable number. I don't always agree with what you say, but at least you usually state your point in an intelligent way. Not this time.

It is common practice for incoming administrations to set a "100 day" agenda or goal. In fact they often will give a statement at the end of that 100 days, to show what progress they made.

Posted by: visak | Dec 5 2020 16:15 utc | 312

@ Posted by: visak | Dec 5 2020 16:15 utc | 313

Excuse me, but wearing masks is not a political agenda.

Posted by: vk | Dec 5 2020 16:25 utc | 313

@ Framarz 311
I am seeing rumors and reports with vague sources stating a ranking mossad staff or even spychief was taken out. Perhaps not perhaps not.
We only know what somebody tells us. I suspect that Iran is doing some damage to Israel, not in the "news," along with the damage that Israel is doing to Iran that's often in the "news." We look at the overall picture and see who's benefiting, cui bono?, and that's Iran IMO. I'm sure that Iran is perfectly capable of taking out whomever they wish, and Israel is not inclined to talk about it.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 5 2020 16:31 utc | 314

Mark2 @Dec5 7:47 #288

You and a lot here are scared of the truth I speak.

No one is scared of the feeble Left that has failed for more than three decades. Once the Unions were broken it was easy to keep the rest divided by identity politics and the progressive pretenders like Bernie, Obama, and Hillary ("I'm a progressive who gets things done!").

What they would fear is a coalition that might actually contend for real power. Like a combination of progressives and conservatives to restore democracy.

=
No third party will solve this !! It will be solved when the lazy minded peace loving US get of their backside and reclaim the two party’s you already have !!

The two US Parties are hopeless. Haven't you noticed that Bernie led a 'revolt' to take over the Democratic Party and failed completely. Many true progressives warned that Bernie's quixotic effort was doomed to fail. Sadly, too many (like yourself!) are taken in by the sloganeering and bullshit from quislings and sheepdogs.

The way forward that is offered by the establishment or any establishment cut-out is almost certainly to be a dead-end.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Dec 5 2020 16:32 utc | 315

Mark2 @Dec5 8:34 #290

So where is the common ground between the left and the right ?
... Here it is ... ‘Zionism ‘ ... Look at how that has taken full control of both US party’s ditto U.K.

What could unite principled people on the left and right their high respect for democracy/democratic rule and their understanding of how the center has corrupted democracy for fun and profit. The centrists define the progressives as socialists and the conservatives as bigots to divide them. Overcome centrist propaganda manipulation and you win power/concessions from the center.

Zionism is just a proxy for "Empire". The US and UK establishment support the Empire so the support Zionism. It's really that simple.

You won't get loads of people to the street to fight Empire or Zionism. Most people don't understand the issues or how getting rid of these will make a difference in their lives. And they don't want to be labeled as antisemitic or unpatriotic.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Dec 5 2020 16:33 utc | 316

Biden: "So, how did you Chinese beat the epidemic?"

Xi: "We wore masks, shut down highways and airports, had the population in the impacted areas stay home, built emergency hospitals with large isolation facilities, organized armies of medics to relieve the overworked medical staff, organized armies of people to distribute food and other supplies to those in lock-down areas, provided proper protective gear to essential workers and those on the front lines combating the virus, and rallied the country to give any kind of support they can, including moral support, to the people suffering the most."

Biden: "Wow, all that? Well, we Americans can at least do the mask part... maybe."

Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 5 2020 16:39 utc | 317

There is simply nothing in evidence to justify calling the US a democracy, which is defined as "a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives." There is no mechanism by which US citizens can have any influence on governmental decisions.
The only evidence the national governors ever present is elections, and we all know that's a useless exercise that includes (on the national level) electing one of two schmucks that are inclined to do whatever their funders tell them to do, and that includes almost nothing for the citizens. And there's evidence that these elections, run by the corrupt states, are also questionable.
The rare instances of elected presidents not coming out of the Dem/Repub machines (Carter, Trump) have been almost totally stifled by the establishment, and what they do accomplish is done undemocratically by executive order. Presidents in general must do anything important, like treaties, with Iraq and Iran for two examples, by employing executive privilege which is not democratic.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 5 2020 16:57 utc | 318

A rare useful article from The Strategic Culture:

Holistic Solutions to the North American Water Crisis: China’s New Silk Road and NAWAPA Revisited

If you have ten minutes of your lifetime to waste, I recommend reading it.

Posted by: vk | Dec 5 2020 17:00 utc | 319

The news is confirmed by Israeli Channel 21. Somebody called Hinawi (Hinawee?), Higher ranked Mossad officer. The Iranian source mention among others, he could be killed by Mossad itself to pretend that Iran has taken bloodzoll for Dr. Fakhrizadeh now and everyone else can go sleep tight, but Iran wouldn’t take somebody low profile like Hinawi as worthy substitute for Dr. Fakhrizadeh, and not in a cowardly manner of “Hit and Run!”. I’m not sure if this allegation is true but just mentioning it like this, in itself is a smashing PsyOp against Zionists.

Persian report: https://www.yjc.ir/00Vofk

Posted by: Framarz | Dec 5 2020 17:11 utc | 320

@310 She would certainly have a case. More likely she will settle for a nice Hua WEi contract in Canada. And what about those Canadian guys who got arrested in China. Will they be home for Christmas?

Posted by: dh | Dec 5 2020 17:12 utc | 321

The news is confirmed by Israeli Channel 21. Somebody called Fehmi Hinawi (Hinawee?), Higher ranked Mossad officer. The Iranian source mention among others, he could be killed by Mossad itself to pretend that Iran has taken bloodzoll for Dr. Fakhrizadeh now and everyone else can go sleep tight, but Iran wouldn’t take somebody low profile like Hinawi as worthy substitute for Dr. Fakhrizadeh, and not in a cowardly manner of “Hit and Run!”. I’m not sure if this allegation is true but just mentioning it like this, in itself is a smashing PsyOp against Zionists.

Persian report: yjc (dot) ir/00Vofk

Posted by: Framarz | Dec 5 2020 17:13 utc | 322

vk@314 - Did I say it was? I dont consider mask wearing to be a political agenda, I consider it to be a public health initiative.

I love the intellectual honesty in your response.

I have noticed you have a tendency to get snarky when someone calls you on something you cant back up. Which to be fair, doesnt happen often.

I have no respect for intellectually dishonest people, even if they share my opinion, and I have great respect for people with intellectual integrity even when they disagree with me.

You degrade your own credibility with shit responses like that.

Posted by: visak | Dec 5 2020 17:15 utc | 323

@322

Err, Israeli Channel 12 not Channel 21

Posted by: Framarz | Dec 5 2020 17:15 utc | 324

@ Posted by: visak | Dec 5 2020 17:15 utc | 323

Personally, I've never heard of this "100 day" tradition in US politics. Didn't read about it when Obama first won (2008), didn't read about it when Trump won (2016). I don't know if your information is true or false. From my quick search here, this is an MSM tradition, where they make some kind of restrospective of the first 100 days of the new POTUS. Either way, this is done after the fact, not before.

But even assuming it is true, you have to accept the fact that this is the first time in recent history that this "100 day" is widely propagandized in the Western media, with anticipation. Which is circumstantial evidence this time it is more important than the other times. Which means this time it actually matters as a propaganda device. This is new information, because Biden is actively using the concept of the 100 day to enforce/trigger some kind of large scale policy/cultural revolution on the American populace.

The question I present is this: why this time the "100 day" concept different? I raised my hypothesis to that question: he saw what China could do against the pandemic in such time span and decided he could emulate it in America. That's the only rational explanation for such bizarre attitude by the POTUS-elect, because:

Biden to call for 100 days of masks after inauguration

"The first day I'm inaugurated I'm going to ask the public for 100 days to mask," Biden said. "Just 100, not forever -- 100 days."

Like, why only just 100 days? Again, I repeat my hypothesis: because he saw China destroying the SARS-CoV-2 in 100 days, therefore he knows it is possible.

Proposing something you don't know really works is a completely different beast from proposing something you absolutely know to work.

Posted by: vk | Dec 5 2020 17:31 utc | 325

vk - If you never heard of it, it must not exist. Keep digging.

Type "presidents 100 day declarations" into your search engine. You are welcome.

As a general rule, if one doesnt know about something, one should probably refrain from commenting on it.

Care to admit you were mistaken, or do you want to double down?

Posted by: visak | Dec 5 2020 17:42 utc | 326

@ Posted by: visak | Dec 5 2020 17:42 utc | 326

Typed, searched and found nothing. The only thing I found is that FDR created the concept that a POTUS should always use his first 100 days to show his power. This includes trying to pass his main bills, doing his main behind-the-scenes articulations, etc. etc.

But I didn't find anywhere that the 100 days concept includes a ceremonial speech, let alone a manifesto with a to-do list. Even the official White House page published Trump's first 100 days accomplishments (on April 17th, i.e. after the fact), not a formal speech indicating what he would do in January, as your line of argument heavily implies.

Nowhere I found "100 days speeches". Of course that, if a POTUS wants to do most of his policies in his first 100 days in office, it implies a cabinet-level agenda. That doesn't mean a speech must be produced.

Again, the question remains: why use the 100 day concept to give a message the American people must wear masks?

Posted by: vk | Dec 5 2020 17:55 utc | 327

@322 Framarz

I'm not trying to druge through twitter or try linking to anything there as I'm not a member, but mid-late yester I'm seeing reports go back to on conspiracy forums, this youtube video I'm linking to via 3rd party is about all I can do.. which isn't much considering this man named himself israeli news something or other

zionist reporter blames iran

Posted by: NJH | Dec 5 2020 17:57 utc | 328

vk@88

Sorry I couldn't get back to you earlier. I attempt not to disregard anything vk, you had just introduced issues which were simply not mentioned. But very briefly:

1) Transportation: undoubtedly there were significant savings on the part of the workers, in portugal that represents around 15% of the average salary if using private means and 3 to 5% if using public transport (BTW that was a recent workers victory pre-Covid, it used to be the same as using private means - 15%). The average time spent is longer by a factor of 1.5 with public vs private, while it is infinity if vs quarantine or teleworking. What's not to like, right?? Production!

2) Small businesses: I read it several times, I still don't know what you meant by "friendship power" and how it would relate with what I was saying. Neither did I understand why my argument implied "so much love" towards small-medium businesses in that sarcastic tone. I'll rephrase and add some data.
2018 numbers - nearly 80% of all employed are employed by small-medium businesses. These are the companies (96% of which <10 workers) with less excess bureaucratic capacity to access layoff subsidies, these are the companies at most risk to close down and send their workers to unemployment. For those worried with labour issues these companies necessarily represent the meat of their concerns. Somehow you (and WG) thought I was primarily worried for the bosses' dinner's wine ageing and "friendship power", was it?

Tannenhouser@82

Yes I also made the best out of my forced confinement, given the output, I was almost psychologically convinced I was working for two bosses: my company and myself. But...

From personal experience and those of my comrades: everyone was forced into spending all their holidays early in March. Some were lucky enough to minimize the damage by negotiating teleworking and save some days (~50 workers). Then in the summer came the mass permanent layoff of around 40% of the working force, we negotiated a reduction towards 33%. Only then did originally a company of nearly 700 applied for government supported layoff. Of the 33% there were some bad apples, but what about the other few which held the procedures and know-how to keep the company running. What about those that stayed overburden with work of their layed off colleagues. Today we have certainly adapted to an extent, but there is more than the mere risk for close down (ie. transfer of means of production). The story here is, government's mitigating measures are not seen by companies to circumvent the crisis, they are seen as an opportunity to squeeze the workers' conditions further. That is how perverted all this is.

On the other hand I can give you an example of increased productivity under this crisis. While teleworking and given the better ability to focus on the job, some tasks could be done in nearly half the time. But not all tasks can be done via a computer, in my line of work I estimate, at least 20% requires material confrontation with the reality of production and its means (individual experience might reduce this further but not definitely and not by that much).

Well, let's keep up with the good work Tannenhouser, shall we?

Posted by: Vasco da Gama | Dec 5 2020 17:59 utc | 329

vk - Double down it is!

Are you too retarded you use a search engine properly? I typed in that search term, and in 10 seconds found 3 articles talking about it. One of the talked about how it originated with Napoleon, another was in reference to obama, and you yourself have found the national registry where it is listed.

Here is one example "The first 100 days of a two-term presidency amount to about 3% of an eight-year span, but for decades the opening stretch of an administration has become the barometer of a commander in chief's governing power, or lack thereof." From CNN

Congratulation! You join the ranks of the hypocritical assholes here at the bar. Don't feel bad though, intellectual honesty is hard, most arent up to the task.

Posted by: visak | Dec 5 2020 18:05 utc | 330

@329 NJH

Thanks making it available. I could just see pictures in the Iranian report.

Posted by: Framarz | Dec 5 2020 18:12 utc | 331

@Vasco. I get what your saying. I think your critique is more a denunciation of the profit system we work in as opposed to my gratitude towards parts of it still having humanist tendencies. I agree no profit should be had under the conditions our leaders placed us in.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Dec 5 2020 18:15 utc | 332

@ Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 4 2020 22:30 utc | 239 quotes "The right wing will destroy this blog, are you not concerned ?" @290 "So where is the common ground between the left and the right ?" @244 "Exbit A ——- old fake hippie"

lets look at this mark... why call someone a fake?? what if the person is real and just has a different viewpoint and story then yours?? if anything destroys moa it is an unwillingness to step back from the anger and hostility on the forum here... that is a much bigger concern to me mark... thanks.. i can live with different viewpoints.. perhaps this is a bigger issue - can a person live in a world where some believe or don't believe in covid? can an american live in a country where almost half of the people voted for the 2 different candidates? or do they have to want to trash and destroy the other half? this is what i mean by anger and hostility and how useless and counter productive it is... we get plenty of examples of this intolerance and frankly - arrogance mixed with anger and hostility... it, as opposed to different ideologies will be the reason the world and moa can't work... it is up to us to be the solution, not the problem!

@ juliania | Dec 5 2020 2:36 utc | 267... thanks juliania! great perspective and stories... for me, i think it was ashley montagu who said women are the stronger sex.. i always related to that from a much earlier age when i had heard it... people will take anything from the world and justify a particular angle... the bible has been used this way and that... for me, it is up to us to bring some balance into the equation.. thanks for doing that! regardless - i still don't see life in these terms of dominance of one or the other sex... maybe some will accuse me of living in a cave, lol... again - we need to figure out how to live together on this level too! this dominance thing is for the birds! thanks for sharing that.. it made me happy..

Tannenhouser | Dec 5 2020 3:41 utc | 275... thanks tannerhouser! nah - they rationalized it via the north node in cancer and a few other ways, but i can't see it myself... however, maybe in all the confusion around the sexs - transgenderism and etc. etc. - we are having to find a way for some middle path which is less extreme... a path where we can acknowledge the equal importance and significance of both sexes and all inbetween... i think the sign of aquarius - a sign of friendship and the opposite of the more egocentric sign leo - is capable of this... i think the problem with aquarius is its wanting to put into reality, ideals that are overly idealistic and not realistic, or missing an element of something... if you think of astro signs as a natural cycle - what comes after a sign is a way of growth... each sign offers what the previous one lacks... but we are more then all of this and when i think of astrology, i mostly like to think of the importance of cycles and how they are so meaningful to us individually, and how there are bigger cycles out their for us to consider as well....

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the issue of the farmers in india was brought up a few months ago... i see it isn't going away.. my understanding is that india wants to modernize it's agriculture industry, while about 50 % of indians work on farms! i do believe this means modi wants to hand the responsibility over to the mega agricultural corporations and that this is what is at stake... modi seems to be working with the usa on a number of levels and i don't think it will end well for india or the farmers.. so i admire trudeau for saying something about this and for these farmers for blocking the major roads into delhi and for continuing with the protests... i think a lot is at stake... and yeah - hopefully b will do a post on this topic.. it has been hanging in the air for at least a few months now..

Posted by: james | Dec 5 2020 18:15 utc | 333

@ Posted by: visak | Dec 5 2020 18:05 utc | 331

No, I want the 100 days declarations you claim to exist.

I found the articles explaining the 100 days concept you mention of.

Posted by: vk | Dec 5 2020 18:15 utc | 334

@334 james

... and yeah - hopefully b will do a post on this topic..

Sounds good, james!

Posted by: Framarz | Dec 5 2020 18:21 utc | 335

vk - I dont know what to tell you. You presumably have an internet connection, I provided one link, I also provided a search term for you that would lead you to other links.

I dont understand how you are not able to read it.

Well, I do understand actually. You lack intellectual integrity, and as such you are more interested in 'winning' and argument, than in discerning the facts around said argument.

I provided evidence to my assertion, there is only a dispute in your mind, and as such you are not worth my time.

Posted by: visak | Dec 5 2020 18:28 utc | 336

@ Posted by: visak | Dec 5 2020 18:28 utc | 337

@ 327, you stated:

Type "presidents 100 day declarations" into your search engine. You are welcome.

I put the term "presidents 100 day declarations" on my search engine, and found no 100 day declarations. You mention an nonexistent document.

Yes, I found articles explaining why, since FDR, the POTUS' first 100 days are considered important. But it never mentions the POTUS publicizes his agenda to the public in the form of a declaration, while still POTUS-elect. As far as I know, Biden is the first POTUS to directly tie a policy to his first 100 days in office, and the first to do it beforehand. It's different from, e.g. the UK, where a party publishes and publicizes a political manifesto, complete with a to-do list, during the campaign which is almost legally bound (as the UK doesn't have a written constitution, it's a gray area).

As far as I know, this 100 day concept is just a little tradition with little importance to the American political system. It is just another word to say game theory dictates a new POTUS must act fast to consolidate his power, before he loses hegemony in the House and/or Senate in two years (or precisely to avoid that). Indeed, the Democrats are projected to lose the House in 2022.

It's interesting, isn't it? In November, the news of the two new American vaccines with their 90%+ efficacy came out, and a huge euphoria took place from the Democrat part. One month passed and it became clear the vaccines wouldn't eliminate the need for masks and even lockdowns. Then the official employment data for November 2020 came out, showing dismal numbers. Then Biden came with this "100 days using masks" policy, which could as well have come out from his ass.

The pattern here is clear: the Democrats are trying to defuse the false hope they themselves created. They are acting in a very sophisticated way to lower the expectations they themselves created to the American people over the false theory that stated merely removing Trump would automatically restore the American economy and geopolitical prestige. They are deescalating.

Posted by: vk | Dec 5 2020 18:51 utc | 337

As a general rule, if one doesnt know about something, one should probably refrain from commenting on it.

Care to admit you were mistaken, or do you want to double down?

Posted by: visak | Dec 5 2020 17:42 utc | 327

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That's never stopped him before cos he's an instant expert on any and all subjects on which he chooses to comment

Posted by: Triden | Dec 5 2020 18:55 utc | 338

vk@338 - "As far as I know ..."

And therein lies the problem, you dont know, and you wont admit you dont know.

How about this asshole? You a non citizen of this country are going to tell me, a citizen of this country for over 50 years, what our norms and customs are. When I point out you are mistaken, you tell me I am wrong. You apparently know our norms and customs better than I do.

Talk about an arrogant mother fucker!

Piss off! I wont be responding to you any longer.

Posted by: visak | Dec 5 2020 19:01 utc | 339

uncle tungsten | Dec 5 2020 6:49 utc | 284

Thanks your links on 250 Million strikers in India that is having global word-of-mouth approval... naturally begets overwhelming support.

Also, your Global Private Finance Rubbish-bin is very workable. All humans can create their own and use it to rid themselves of crappy contamination. It has the marvelous feature emptying itself automatically.

I created my GPFR-bin and it works just as you said!

Posted by: chu teh | Dec 5 2020 19:04 utc | 340

@329 NJH

What I see in the video:
- up right corner you see the logo of “BisimchiMedia”. “Bisimchi” means “The Telegraphist” in Persian, the account on the Instagram belong to someone that could be member of Basiji militia
- twitter account used for first (?) distribution of the story has a female Shia Pakistani name, Zainab Rizvi
- twitter account (redistributing the first tweet) on the screen used by the reporter in video belong to some “progressive-minded” (leftist? but not Antifa) person, additional photo posted there prove that the assassination team fired a machine gun while driving parallel to the victim in opposite direction.
- @0:41 sec into the video a black service car drive into scene from the left and park across the street
- almost at the same time 3 service members running from left across to the scene of assassination, their transportation must be parked in the street crossing left side out of video frame
- 3 other service members jump out the black car and approach the scene of assassination
- @0:50 first police car arrive the scene
- @0:56 a second police or service car with a bit distance park behind the scene
- @1:00 a third police car from left across the street
- @1:16 the scene is secured from behind with 2 cars (1 police + 1 service?)
- at the end one can count about 15 cars that were dispatched to the scene

Conclusions:
- This was without a doubt an assassination done by professionals (service was there before police)
- The subject person was someone with rank (amount of security dispatched)
- Fit more as the payback promised by Hezbollah for their Martyr in Syria then payback by Iran for Dr. Fakhrizadeh (Iran would probably go again for people of the rank of Michael D’andrea as appetizer before the main dish is served)

Posted by: Framarz | Dec 5 2020 19:31 utc | 341

@342

One more conclusion:
Since both videos from the top and at street level must come from the logistic part of the operating team. It has a message for Zionists about the level of self confidence of the operative network. Something Like: “We are walking among you!”

Posted by: Framarz | Dec 5 2020 20:12 utc | 342

India Farmers negotiations continue in silence. From the Times of India December 5.

Some background research findings from 2018 sheds light on the history of discontent and current collapse of trust in Indian Government.

Monsanto seed control strategies also lie at the root of systematic erosion of farming capacity as reported in Global Research "The seeds of suicide". This reprints older material but the undermining of independent small farmers over decades feed directly into the ultimate amalgamation of hundreds of small holdings to enable broad scale agriculture and hundreds of displaced (now unemployed) families. Global monopoly, big manufacturing and private finance investment wins again.

In India massive strikes on this scale are regular and here is a report on January 2019 action.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 5 2020 20:24 utc | 343

chu teh #341

I created my GPFR-bin and it works just as you said!

Thank you chu teh, I have one made from woven cane and a rough wood base. Sometimes I call it my iTRASH and often throw apple cores in it. Perhaps I should decorate it with corporate logos. Maybe attach a picture of Harris Biden to the base.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 5 2020 20:43 utc | 344

@foolisholdman, 54
Hospitals are always fill up during the winter respiratory virus season. SARS-CoV-2 is not the only respiratory virus in circulation at present.

Right! So why isn't there a crisis like this every year?

Posted by: foolisholdman | Dec 5 2020 21:16 utc | 345

That post ( Dec 5 2020 21:16 utc | 346) should have been labelled to
cirsium | Dec 3 2020 22:09 utc | 60

Posted by: foolisholdman | Dec 5 2020 21:24 utc | 346

Framarz

Bisimchi Media account has been frozen :))

Someone not happy with that revelation. Your suggestions it was a Hezbollah hit for some previous assassination sounds fair enough. Time will tell.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 5 2020 21:31 utc | 347

Yanis Varoufakis comments on the USAi election outcome.

I think he is too kind to the Sanders faction - at least he avoids singing their praises.

This is worth the 5 minutes as it takes a sharp look at the party strategies that will emerge in the next year.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 5 2020 21:50 utc | 348

uncle tungsten@349

Isnt this the guy who screwed the people of greece about 10 years ago?

IIRC he got elected on a platform of standing up to the austerity measure being imposed on greece by the eu, and then caved and agreed to all of the measures, thereby betraying the people that elected him.

If that is correct, why should we listen to anything he has to say?

Posted by: visak | Dec 5 2020 22:04 utc | 349

Food security is the primary essential for life. It is the first rung on Mazlows heirarchy of needs. I fail to accept that intelligent humans after thousands of years can get this so wrong so continuously, so obviously without there being a malign suite of strategies acting against their fundamental rights and their interests.

Take a few minutes to consider this.

Watch Africa closely as there are the same old plunder pirates destabilising it today as always were. How many USAi bases are there? Who is promoting, arming, funding ISIS in Africa?

It seems clear to me that the 'hate Russia, hate China' brigands in the incoming Harris Biden presidency will be up to their old killer instinct to drive any competing assistance out of Africa so they can continue to steal their resources.

Imagine if ten percent of every military budget was redirected to boost this program.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 5 2020 22:15 utc | 350

visak #350

WRONG visak. Do some research.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 5 2020 22:17 utc | 351

If I remember correctly: Greek Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis resigns (6 Jul 2015)

Greek Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis has resigned after Greek voters delivered an overwhelming “No” vote in a referendum on whether to accept more austerity measures in return for new bailout cash.

Posted by: Vasco da Gama | Dec 5 2020 22:18 utc | 352

Uncle - So he is a different person, or he didn't betray the greek people?

I was hoping you can elaborate for me, breifly.

Posted by: visak | Dec 5 2020 22:19 utc | 353

re: 250 million people protesting in India.. .
In total, forty percent of India's population of 1.3 billion people are second-class citizens. That includes some two hundred million Muslims who are the victims of Prime Minister Narendra Modi and the ruling party having moved to limit Muslims’ rights, plus 325 million people grouped under the scheduled castes (Dalits) and scheduled tribes (Adivasis) in India's constitution. Adivasis are indigenous Indians who have been socially and economically marginalized for centuries.
But hey, let's talk about. . .China.
And from NPR:. . .Tens of thousands of Indian farmers are protesting for a ninth straight day.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Dec 5 2020 22:27 utc | 354

@354 visak

You mean Alexis Tsipras, head of SYRIZA government, who was the traitor. Although Varoufakis, a left social democrat, not much better, left the Tsipras government. By European measure both traitors, by US measure, call them "progressives".

Posted by: Framarz | Dec 5 2020 22:32 utc | 355

Framarz -

Thanks for responding.

Posted by: visak | Dec 5 2020 22:35 utc | 356

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3_UlFMXxaU

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 5 2020 22:48 utc | 357

aquadraht | Dec 4 2020 10:29 utc | 134

This is not to deny problems and shortcomings in China. But that "anti CCP" babble, be it from EoinW, Pompeo, or other fanatics, simply misses the point.

Good post! & very much to the point. The biggest source of problems in the Great Leap Forward was the over-optimistic statistics supplied to Zhongnanhai and that lesson was learnt. Anyone that has not read the books by Edgar Snow and Anna Louise Strong, about the Chinese revolution/civil war, can have no real understanding of modern China!

Posted by: foolisholdman | Dec 5 2020 22:55 utc | 358

About the event in Tel Aviv, Al Manar is reporting that an Iranian response would go further from targetting Hinawi, and that this could be a false flag as rumor has the climate in Israel is explosive with sections of intelligence and military in rage agsint the couple Netanyahu-Cohen for keeping them unaware of what was going to happen in Iran...

Why would Iran need to rush to retaliate when the attack and Israeli activites are being widely condemned even at EU and UN level?

Btw, that a Palestinian child was also killed past day.

Related, my computer was slowed to almost inhability after my not so friendly exchange with Jackrabbit in the thread on the assassination of the Iranian scientist where he attacked me on basis of what other people missunderstood about me on another thread, on another topic totally unrelated...because I confronted him on his reiterated exculpation of Mossad...

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Dec 6 2020 0:04 utc | 359

Has Keir Starmer's ludicrous drive to push left wing members of the uk labour party out the door gone too far this time?
Naomi Winburne-Idrissi is the latest to be 'suspended' for publishing this, a tweet supporting Palestinian activists generally and Jeremy Corbyn specifically. It is certainly worth viewing, cause the thing is Ms Winburne-Idrissi is jewish herself and she points out exactly how media has twisted reality by only allowing a few seleced types give voice to jewish concerns.
So now we have Keir Starmer a goy, deciding who is a good jew and who is bad jew, kinda the same as what A.H. got up to 1934 to 1945.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Dec 6 2020 1:24 utc | 360

Thank you, James @ 334 -- yes, it is all about equality in sort of a competitive way (everything is so competitive) but really, vive la differance! I came to Orthodoxy very late - having looked at or experienced other different Christian forms, and apart from Catholicism, no other one brought any bearing on Jesus' mother, where in my little church she was (and is) front and center as the human person whose positive attributes ought to be not only admired but emulated. There's an interesting passage in Dostoievski's "The Devils" where a woman is telling a tale to a friend that dwells in depth of feeling on imagery of a folkish nature surrounding the mother of Christ:

"...one day, as we were leaving the church, a lay sister who was staying at the convent to atone for making prophecies [!] said to me:
"Mother of God -- what do you think that means?"

"She's the great Mother, the hope of the human race," I said.

"You're right there," she said to me. The Mother of God is our great mother earth, and there's great happiness for man in that. And in every earthly sorrow and in every earthly tear there's happiness for us. And once you've soaked the earth a foot deep with your tears, you'll rejoice in everything right away. And," she said, "You'll not have a single sorrow -- not a single one. There is such a prophecy," she told me.

Those words touched me deep down inside, and I began then, when I knelt down to pray, to kiss the earth, and when I kissed it, I wept. And let me tell you, Shatsie, there's nothing bad in those tears -- and even if you have nothing to be sad about, the tears will pour from your eyes out of sheer joy.

That's the Russian for you, back when the earth was more whole -- would that our own tears could be joyful, instead of sad as they are these days!


Posted by: juliania | Dec 6 2020 1:35 utc | 361

Sorry, I did preview that, and it ought to have posted as a blockquote, but my time had expired so I copied it to paste in, and that eliminated the block, which ought to have gone from my first colon to the words "sheer joy". (The last paragraph is from me again.)

Posted by: juliania | Dec 6 2020 1:41 utc | 362

Tannenhaouser @ 275 No, I haven't. I have often wondered why that particular time in history got chosen, but I don't think it had anything to do with planetary ins and outs, much as such observations give rise to some excellent investigations of the human psyche. I'm a moon watcher myself, (in Genesis "the little light" -- and hopefully the Chinese will be moderate with their explorations there. It's kinda nice we've left it alone for a while.

Posted by: juliania | Dec 6 2020 2:44 utc | 363

Woops, sorry -- Tannenhouser. Don't know how that "a" crept in there.

Posted by: juliania | Dec 6 2020 2:46 utc | 364

Neers Tanden the grovelling demonazi fraud gets a flogging from Katie Halper at The Hill.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 6 2020 3:49 utc | 365

Neera Tanden that is.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 6 2020 3:50 utc | 366

H.Schmatz @Dec6 0:04 #360

Related, my computer was slowed to almost inhability after my not so friendly exchange with Jackrabbit in the thread on the assassination of the Iranian scientist.... because I confronted him on his reiterated exculpation of Mossad...

Still trying to smear me.

Anyone that cares to look back to our exchange (starting with your asking if I was a "double national") can see that I completely refuted your allegations:

  • I was not exculpating Mossad;
  • Another commenter supported my understanding that CIA has the relationship with MEK and I @295 I wrote: ... we know that CIA and Mossad work together so it hardly matters whose primary.;

  • In my 5+ years at moa I have no history of being lenient on Mossad

    Among other things, I written support for BDS and attacked other commenters that were trying play down Epstein's crimes or his connection to Mossad;

  • @301 I was the one that sourced the confusion regarding the assassination to a reporter (CIA/Mossad mouthpiece) in London that provided Western media with the initial narrative.

    Fyi and Framarz confirmed my suspicions.

  • You showed yourself to be quite a dumbass during our exchange

    Most starkly when you refused to look back at a prior thread. It's hilariously ironic that you now reference an earlier thread for others! LMFAO.


And you also had an exchange with james soon after the one with me. You were trying to smear him too.

Pathetic.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Dec 6 2020 5:37 utc | 367

I can't find one mainstream outlet carrying the assassination of the Mossad commander. If it was a Mossad official that was hit, then this was definitely a message; and whoever did it was professional and knew what they were doing in the middle of Tel Aviv.

However, I'm thinking if this is Iran, it can't be the only target. Next job should be completely different, out of left field and unrelated.

Assymetrical swift and anonymous. Bull's-eye. Zionists have a low pain threshold. Their paranoia will be off the charts.

Posted by: Circe | Dec 6 2020 7:13 utc | 368

what is different is the means by which the hidden Oligarch manage and control our society. Rule of law is not as effective
as regulated access to information.
Said difference is to be found in the technology that we our selves developed so the Oligarchs can better control us.

It would not be so bad if we had the right to use what we ourselves developed, but we don't because
the invention was patented, and the Oligarch used your money to own the patented technology for themselves.
Please bend over the oligarch is coming.

Posted by: snake | Dec 6 2020 7:20 utc | 369

Some clarity on the Iranian position and its current policy re the USAi. Yhis is a very clear speaking 12 minute interview with Sam Torabi at RT Going Underground.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 6 2020 7:31 utc | 370

Sam Torabi again on Coronavirus and how USAi sanctions are crimes against Iranian civilians. A six minute video from Going Underground at RT.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 6 2020 7:45 utc | 371

@360 H.Schmatz

About the Palestinian kid:
Ali Abu Aalya, 13 years old, was shot in stomach by Zionist military aka IDF in village of al-Mughayir, northeast of Ramallah, West Bank. This happened during local protests by Palestinians against a new settlement outpost in the area.

Read more about it at:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israeli-forces-fatally-shoot-palestinian-child-ali-abu-aalya

This war-crime took place almost at the same time as the assassination of the high-rank Mossad officer in Tel Aviv. A Palestinian retaliation narrative doesn’t seem logical because you need time and lots of logistic preparation to eliminate someone within Mossad in Tel Aviv.
However some other killings in northern occupied Palestine could be connected to the assassination in Tel Aviv. We will wait and see.

If Iran rushed? ... or was it necessary to pay back by assassinating Hinawi?
I believe after Dr. Fakhrizadeh’s burial ceremony was done, nothing stood in the way to pay back from a religious point of view. I’m not a religious believer and have studied Islam just from a sociopolitical and historical point of view. Maybe other Iranian voices here can explain this more exact according to Shia believe.
We haven’t witness any clear condemnation from UN or EU connected with the assassination of Dr. Fakhrizadeh but even if there was a proper condemnation, it couldn’t stop Iran’s right to defend itself. Don’t mix these stuff together.

Al-Manar report, false flag theory.
I follow Al-Manar, usually they are reliable. It’s interesting to notice when Al-Manar says it’s false flag, it means actually that Hezbollah is not going to take the responsibility for this assassination. Hassan Nasrallah has promised since couple of months a retaliation for a Hezbollah commander martyred in Syria during a Zionist IDF missile attack near Damascus. Public Opinion among Zionists in occupied Palestine believe every word of Hassan Nasrallah. They know he keep what he promise and always tell the truth. They believe him more then their own Zionist MSM. It’s part of the successful terror-balance Hezballah has been managing in the region. So Al-Manar report is caused by considerations and necessities in another relation.

False Flags are usually done in an atmosphere of smoke and mirror. I agree we see elements of smoke and mirror around this event, however my considerations by reviewing the event:

- the news about assassination was barred from Zionist MSM, Channel 12 report, I think the only media report allowed, actually denied any connection between Hinawi and Mossad
- reports in Iranian media were spare but astonishingly complete and accompanied with first-hand security analysis, like the narrative presented by Al-Manar, just some hours after the event. Some Chief-editor, somewhere in Iran must have known that this news going to pup up
- the video prove that security was at scene before the police
- the video provided, has the name of a real-existing political-military entity in Iran on it
- providing videos like this, as I mentioned before, deliver a message with macabre nature to the Zionists about their inability to provide security, this could never be the goal of a false flag

Posted by: Framarz | Dec 6 2020 8:21 utc | 372

Debsisdead @ 361
Thanks for the heads up contained in your comment.
What ever country we reside in. This needs keeping an eye on.
It’s the new battle front, the new political war.
Whilst we are distracted —- virus, conflict povity, they are moving in ! taking over.
Expect splash back toward any that raise this issue,
Not least here.
The zionists are coming, take cover.

Posted by: Mark2 | Dec 6 2020 10:25 utc | 373

RE Varoufakis:

What I remember what Varoufakis (V) and Tsipras (T) were both big shots is Syriza, with T being #1, V the finance guy. V wanted to tell the EU to go screw itself, or at least talked that way. T did the left-right shuffle and caved immediately once secure in power and put to the test. V resigned soon after. V has shown himself to have good instincts and blue collar sympathies, but he seems very comfortable in the PMC too. Reminds of Taibbi a bit, useful guy, something to say, not the great leader going to free us all. T is a coward or a weasel, take your pick.

It is not inconsistent to think it was all kabuki between them, but I tend to think not, I think V was just naive about T and what was going to be allowed by Uncle Sugar and the EU. Instead they got made an example of to deter the bigger states like Italy & Spain. Nasty business.

Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 6 2020 10:29 utc | 374

@Posted by: Framarz | Dec 6 2020 8:21 utc | 373

Thanks for your thorough analysis, sounds plausible.

Are you Iranian? ( Answer if you feel like to do it, take into account what I tell happened to me...Anyway, I was managing with this relic so far, but wishing to improve by acquiring a more modevrn, more powerful, widescreen desk computer, my back and sight are suffering from overuse..Since I was not able to travel this year, and thus saved a bunch of money, it seems a good opportunty to finally retire this old companion...I´m used to make use of devices until the end of their useful life. This seesm to me better aport to environment care than obliguing me to buy an electric car I can not afford ( 25.000 euro from start, the chepaest...) or otherwise condeming me to pay even more taxes I do, or do not sleep at all by obliguing me to take public transport to go to work 25 kms away from homev...)

I could not provide links yesterday, but today I would like to give a face to the child, so that he does not become just another number in the ocean which conform Palestinian genocide...A beuatiful one, indeed...Thi is late Ali Ayman Nasr Abu Alya..

https://twitter.com/almayadeen_es/status/1335344526010036227

Photos and videos of his funeral..

https://twitter.com/almayadeen_es/status/1335345920469241856

I read at HispanTV ( Spanish lanaguage Iranian channel ) yesterday in the morning here, about the tel Aviv event, but then later the news dissapeared from the front page headlines...
Also read there about condemantions by EU. Several resolutions adopted at UN condemning Israel procedures may be at Al Mayadeen, I can not remember, I read a lot of sources in the morning usually. Going to find it...

Btw, with respect flase flag theory or "blue on blue", an interesting point is that Israelis do not celebrate Christmas, and thus they seem determined this year to embitter this celebration for the rest of believers...This seems all the way an attack against Christian Europe in revenge for the expressions of condemnation of the assassination of the Iranian scientist Kakhrizadeh...Recall that these Israeli extremists usually attack in Ramadan or Eid Al Fitr too..As Hezbollah people have always protected any cult sites, Christian European countries should be considering whom they label as terrorist carefully...

Israeli settlers set fire to the Basilica of Gethsemane in occupied Jerusalem

https://twitter.com/almayadeen_es/status/1335229943035252736

Anyway, it seems is that Germany not only alignes along US in labeling Hezbollah as terrorist organization, in spite of its current full integration in Lebanese society and political life ( which would make one wonders what they would need terrorism for in this context with wide majority at Parliament...), but also tries, along the US, to renegotiate the JCPOA under new terms, including missiles now...Is Germany also starting to become "non agreement capable"vv? iran definitely, must look for its security interests..

Germany has stated that a broader nuclear deal with Iran is necessary to curb the ballistic missile program, claiming that the deal reached in 2015 is currently insufficient.

https://twitter.com/descifraguerra/status/1335296959813398534

Whole thread on, an sequence of events surrounding, the Dr.Fakhrizadeh assassination, like ending of sanctions on himself and on Iran just the day he was assassianteds, an obvious message to the UN and EU on that certain entioties are going to pass international law through certain part...

https://twitter.com/descifraguerra/status/1332341024891527172

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Dec 6 2020 12:59 utc | 375

Where is my vote?

https://twitter.com/s_m_marandi/status/1335518736711872512?s=20

Posted by: Framarz | Dec 6 2020 13:02 utc | 376

@376 H. Schmatz

Germany has stated that a broader nuclear deal with Iran is necessary to curb the ballistic missile program, claiming that the deal reached in 2015 is currently insufficient.

... and Saudis have made public that they demand zero enrichment in the new “deal”, so we all must only wait and see what the General Mayor of the Island of Zanzibar request from Iran ...

Posted by: Framarz | Dec 6 2020 13:16 utc | 377

Bemildred - Thanks for that, I appreciate it. My knowledge of the workings of the EU is superficial at best.

Posted by: visak | Dec 6 2020 15:48 utc | 378

@mark2@374 If we discount the history that shows Zionism is and has been with us even before it set up a proxy in Germany and then tore it down and allowed it to escape west to dominate globally. Still does, right here right now.

Then sure they got us bamboozled.They got us so bamboozled we support the newest version of brownshirts and call ourselves progressive. we cheer looting and rioting. Destruction of a lifes work is just penance for the color of your skin even when its the same. We wish horrible things on others because their ideas don't jive. There is glee in our words when that which doesn't jive receives a tomahawk.

Know yer histry do ur reserch trust me I know, I've peered into it's eye and stared it down on the deep web. who eeee its scary, trust me I know the truth.

forgive me? I don't believe I'm sufficiently bamboozled to believe you have outbamboozled the OG bamboozlement. Can it be considered a good thing, that to date you have not failed to increase my bamboozlement? why yes, yes of course it can. Fortunately for all of us there are still some amongst the many that require further bamboozlement.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Dec 6 2020 18:13 utc | 379

@ juliania | Dec 6 2020 1:35 utc | 362... thanks juliania.. your knowledge on these matters is much deeper then mine and i appreciate that you are sharing your unique perspective on this topic as a consequence! thank you! now, i have to find some time to read the brothers karamosov, or however you spell that last name! first i have to get a copy of the book! i am presently reading a biography on alan lomax.. are you familiar with who this is?? he led a fascinating life.. i am only about 80 pages in..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Lomax

@ suzan... thanks for the link to the aesops fables much earlier in the thread... i enjoyed reading some of those which i must have read a long time ago..

Posted by: james | Dec 6 2020 18:30 utc | 380

@circe369 who says "Assymetrical swift and anonymous. Bull's-eye. Zionists have a low pain threshold. Their paranoia will be off the charts." Yer Orange dopleganger blows up that assumption. full send. he took 247365x4yrs and he's still POTUS. Their threshold for pain is ledgendary.

I hope I'm wrong and have no faith I am. The glee in your words here is palpable Circe. Circe. What is the label for those among us who derive pleasure from anothers pain?

Fuck you circe u will receive no quarter here. I'm almost positive you don't express yourself the same way in RL so I won't write you off as a non sentient life form.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Dec 6 2020 18:38 utc | 381

James@381 - Wonderful book, one of my favorites, I hope you enjoy it.

My own personal experience with russian literature has been that whenever I found older (pre-1950ish) copies of these books, there were very significant amounts of french in the writing. There were translations at the end of the book, but I found it incredibly difficult to flip back and forth and still being able to follow along.

In fact, it was my third copy of war and peace (my absolute favorite book) that I was finally able to finish.

Perhaps you speak french and this wont be an issue for you, otherwise make sure to get more recent translations, say 1980 and forward.

I look forward to hearing how you liked it.

Posted by: visak | Dec 6 2020 18:46 utc | 382

juliania@365. Weird. I missed the last I in juliania. I had typed julliana. In my earlier reply about the astrological timing of the NT.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Dec 6 2020 18:52 utc | 383

@ visak | Dec 6 2020 18:46 utc | 383... thanks visak.. your post is further encouragement to get a copy... i will speak with my brother who has a great collection of books.. he probably has this book.. cheers..

Posted by: james | Dec 6 2020 20:33 utc | 384

james @ 381, yes, I do know who Alan Lomax is -- I was a folkie in college days before that got commercialized, but fond memories of going to the basement of the Library of Congress to listen to his recordings, not him but the people he recorded. Never got very good on the guitar, and I always sang slightly sharp due to childhood ear infection, couldn't really hear myself. But oh, we did have great sessions out on backcampus.

I actually have a copy of TBK in Russian - first got 'hooked' reading the Modern Library translation (pretty good but some parts not well translated. Be careful-- it might turn you Orthodox (did me). Pevear translation is very good with admirable footnotes -- there's just one place that it fails for me. A key segment has the heading in Constance Garnett translation, "Lacerations". I forget the Pevear substitute but it fails to preserve the meaning of a shallow type injury self inflicted - different there is not better to my mind.

Some day I'll attempt my own translation. I've done a few pages. Best is to discuss with a Russian! But mainly, just enjoy.

Posted by: juliania | Dec 7 2020 1:56 utc | 385

@james, @juliania:

I found Pevear translations very readable modern English, I can't speak to quality of translation, but as English I found it a considerable improvement. Karenina I think it was. I have an older version of Karamazov and struggle with it. If I happened to be looking for Russian lit., I'd look for them first.

Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 7 2020 2:43 utc | 386

@375 Bemildred - Nasty business.

Yes indeed, and I admire your grasp of the layers of intricacy there. Even more, I admire your telling of the layers.

Everything is like this, isn't it? About 6 layers of reality at least, and all woven intimately together, each strand fully authentic with each neighboring strand, and the whole is either coherent or falling apart - often no single strand knows.

I only observe all this because whenever I see two or three strands of any position arguing with each other in these threads I know that the force of division has won, and I understand why so many commenters simply read and don't join in, and I wish to find the way to remind us all to encompass all of the half-dozen strands to each situation, but I wish I could do this in one simple reminder.

Just passing through. Can't help but notice that lately the far-flung ends of threads in the third of fourth page often have the greater meaning here at MoA, like the bar scene much deeper into the night, when the boisterous frisson has died away, and only the stalwarts remain, having drunk themselves into sobriety, clear-eyed, heart-filled, voicing truths to each other.

Good company. Many thanks, you and all.

Posted by: Grieved | Dec 7 2020 2:45 utc | 387

Posted by: Grieved | Dec 7 2020 2:45 utc | 388

Appreciated. The way I put it some time ago in some other place is that: I think when we get old our job becomes to sit around the fire at night and keep watch. And that suits me.

It's true I spend a lot of time reading whatever I can find in English (and sometimes a bit of other things) on international politics. It's one of my hobbies I took up about 17 years ago when I retired. A murky business as you point out, in the beginning very confusing, but after a while you develop a better picture of who all these people are, and then it starts to make more sense. Many writers on the internets too, even the crazed and obsessive ones can be very informative. The collapse of US journalism has helped in a way, forced me to start looking elsewhere, and it turns out there are English media all over the planet.

With respect to your observations I offer a bit of Nietzche:

"All truth is simple." Is that not doubly a lie? -- FW Nietzsche

Candidly, I think truth is complex and irreducible, there is no closed form solution to the reality we live in.

I think it is more important to keep your attention on the road ahead and not spend too much time theorizing about what to call things, so I stay out of those arguments.

A pleasure to read you too.

Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 7 2020 3:16 utc | 388

@juliania | Dec 7 2020 1:56 utc | 386 / Bemildred | Dec 7 2020 2:43 utc | 387 thanks you two! i am reminded of the many translations of lao tzus 'tao teh ching'... some are much better then others! i never realized this until after i had reviewed a few of them.. i will see what is out their.. my brother doesn't have a copy, so i am going to have to find one on my own... prevear translation you say.. okay!

juliania - obviously you love music... my friend played me a choral arrangement of a song another friend wrote that will be performed by a large group.. it was quite beautiful.. the writer of the song was born in texas and migrated to canada in the 60's.. he would be in his 70's now.. i believe his father was in the army in the usa, but his son went into music and was quite success in music too.. he lives close by.. i live in a great community of many great musical people with many talents.. i feel blessed in this and many regards.. i was sharing a link to a singer i hadn't heard of before.. here is another link to track 3 of a different recording of hers!
I Got Lost In His Arms · Meredith d'Ambrosio she does the artwork for the album covers as well! quite a talent this women - meredith d'ambrosio..

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Also, I forgot to thanks Psychohistorian for help in escaping blog hell. Thanks!

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