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December 29, 2020
Open Thread 2020-103
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Paul | Dec 30 2020 20:46 utc | 94 Posted by: Stonebird | Dec 30 2020 22:44 utc | 101 Interesting factoid. Posted by: librul | Dec 30 2020 22:48 utc | 102 karlof1 | Dec 30 2020 22:40 utc | 102 Posted by: Stonebird | Dec 30 2020 22:52 utc | 103 Krystal Ball exposes the lame logic of Yasha Levine and Jimmy Dore wades in for 20 minutes. Together they expose the lame brains who have no respect for the power in the hands of the left let alone awareness of the continuous mendacious attacks to dis-empower the left. And in his finale Jimmy really puts it to the squad as their hour of truth approaches. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 30 2020 23:14 utc | 104 From Dec/6 Posted by: arby | Dec 30 2020 23:16 utc | 105 @pokums | Dec 30 2020 19:39 utc | 86 Posted by: gm | Dec 30 2020 23:20 utc | 106 Stonebird @105– Pfizer and Moderna’s “95% effective” vaccines—let’s be cautious and first see the full data (Peter Doshi from The BMJ Opinion, comment and opinion from The BMJ’s international community of readers, authors, and editors) Posted by: ADKC | Dec 30 2020 23:26 utc | 108 Re: Posted by: arby | Dec 30 2020 23:16 utc | 107 Posted by: Piotr Berman | Dec 30 2020 23:26 utc | 109 @97 “The only person guaranteed to blow jacks brains out was sitting in front seat of that car.” Posted by: Cherrycoke | Dec 30 2020 23:40 utc | 110 uncle tungsten @99– So what to believe ? In Russia proper, the event has not really made a splash. Sure it’s been talked about, but more as a funny or interesting item in the “weird news” category than some sort of regime-toppling event, as some hilarious reddit threads would like to believe. Maybe that’s the Kremlin’s calculus, not wanting to give them any extra publicity rather than take the time to debunk it thoroughly ? Or is Kudryatsev the real deal, and has the FSB really sunk so low ? Posted by: Piotr Berman | Dec 30 2020 23:50 utc | 112 A note why a “knock of mercy” may be necessary in a case of assisted suicide by defenestration. Tossing someone from the 3rd floor is not particularly reliable in itself. Posted by: Piotr Berman | Dec 30 2020 23:56 utc | 113 @115 The more common references would be to the CIA’s manual on assassinations and to Frank Olson (see Hank Albarelli’s “A Terrible Mistake”). Posted by: Cherrycoke | Dec 31 2020 0:04 utc | 114 The Tyranny of Merit with Michael Sandel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx5fmgIpzug Posted by: james | Dec 31 2020 0:11 utc | 115 Good Grief!
Posted by: gm | Dec 31 2020 0:45 utc | 116 Jonathan Pollard: Former Jewish spy lands in Israel 35 years after arrest Posted by: Francis | Dec 31 2020 0:46 utc | 117 As I recall his head went back and to the left, his lady couldn’t get away from his corpse fast enough. Don’t think he would have made any difference in the long run, same as any other Prez. Fall guy. Posted by: Lee RV Oswald | Dec 31 2020 0:48 utc | 118 Jonathan Pollard: Former Jewish spy lands in Israel 35 years after arrest Posted by: Francis | Dec 31 2020 0:49 utc | 119 @111 An interesting article about tankers, US sanctions and Venezuelan oil. It can probably be summed up in one sentence…. Posted by: dh | Dec 31 2020 0:49 utc | 120 A strange pattern with Covid-19 deaths: they are much smaller on weekends, in most countries. Scientists work on explanations. Posted by: Piotr Berman | Dec 31 2020 1:43 utc | 121 One day after JFK’s assassination, deputy constable Seymour Weitzman filed an affidavit that stated “We were in the Northwest corner of the sixth floor when Deputy Boone and myself spotted the rifle about the same time. This rifle was a 7.65 Mauser bolt action equipped with a 4/18 scope, a thick leather brownish black sling on it.” Posted by: spudski | Dec 31 2020 1:43 utc | 122 Adherents of the unfounded conspiracy theory believe that politicians and other prominent people, including the Clintons and the comedian Bob Hope, who died in 2003, are actually lizard-like creatures sent to Earth and are responsible for a number of historic tragedies. Justin Bieber and the Obamas have also been named in the conspiracy theory. Posted by: Piotr Berman | Dec 31 2020 2:13 utc | 123 @ Stonebird103 Posted by: Paul | Dec 31 2020 3:10 utc | 124 bemildered @ 80 try the direct link.. or just go to the website indicated and try it works still from me from here. Posted by: snake | Dec 31 2020 3:10 utc | 125 bemildered @ 80 try the direct link.. or just go to the website indicated and try it works still from me from here. Posted by: snake | Dec 31 2020 3:20 utc | 126 Bernie, hope u left Europe when u posited pissing off 10 years ago! Posted by: oddmanout | Dec 31 2020 3:24 utc | 127 Refuting the official conclusions regarding the JFK assassination has been a successful project of actual “citizen journalists”. The document releases mandated by Congress in the wake of Oliver Stone’s “JFK” film have provided a rare comprehensive factual record of that brief administration, allowing researchers to develop detailed trails to the assassination plot. Posted by: jayc | Dec 31 2020 3:34 utc | 128 Piotr Berman #114 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 31 2020 3:58 utc | 129 Cherrycoke #116
and Emma Winberg (Mesurier’s wife)here.
I wonder if the other of the ‘three partners’ was Integrity Initiative or Institute for Statecraft? Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 31 2020 4:18 utc | 130 @ gm Posted by: suzan | Dec 31 2020 5:08 utc | 131 Frankly, I would say we need a lock down on the production weapons of war rather than a virus. The war virus kills far more people than any corona virus ever will. Alas, the war virus is a major source of profit and power for our corporate oligarchs, so do not expect any anti-arms race agitation in the near future Posted by: Bluedotterel | Dec 31 2020 6:14 utc | 132 Vanessa Beeley outs the German Government granting asylum to a White Helmet leader. Video report at thewallwillfall dot org.
Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 31 2020 6:26 utc | 133 An important article from Craig Murray’s blog on the ICC. It would be nice if b could follow this up. Posted by: Bluedotterel | Dec 31 2020 6:29 utc | 134 I am including the following short posting from Xinhuanet because it reminded me of my youth and the excitement Americans felt about having a man on the moon. Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 31 2020 6:46 utc | 135 @uncle tungsten | Dec 30 2020 21:16 utc | 98
According to Robert Morningstar, the Zapruder film was first shown to the public in 1968, so they had 5 years to fix it. And they did. Posted by: Norwegian | Dec 31 2020 7:32 utc | 136 Some covid questions to be answered according to Roberts. I suppose these are not very different from the list of Skripal questions not answered by the interests that be: Posted by: Bluedotterel | Dec 31 2020 8:06 utc | 137 I dunno how many have heard about the latest Frances McDormand flick “Nomadland” which at least considers the fate of older amerikan workers in a society that A) considers humans 60+ mostly slow and unproductive and B) preaches that any human who hasn’t succeeded in stashing sufficient cash away to keep them fed, housed and clothed by the time that particular human hits 60+ to be a 100% author of their own misfortune. Posted by: Debsisdead | Dec 31 2020 8:28 utc | 138 Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 31 2020 6:46 utc | 136
Despite this, some people are convinced that a system that can land robots on the moon and return them to earth is somehow not capable of sinking a US aircraft carrier in the SCS … Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 31 2020 9:22 utc | 139 https://alachuachronicle.com/university-of-florida-researchers-find-no-asymptomatic-spread/ Posted by: snake | Dec 31 2020 11:31 utc | 140 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 31 2020 9:22 utc | 140 Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 31 2020 11:35 utc | 141 What I am to make of this? Posted by: namulith | Dec 31 2020 11:40 utc | 142 pokums | Dec 30 2020 19:39 Posted by: dan of steele | Dec 31 2020 12:20 utc | 143 Posted by: namulith | Dec 31 2020 11:40 utc | 143
Make the following of it: Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 31 2020 12:34 utc | 144 So I’m going to expose the sickening, biased and blatant hypocrisy and deception around here. Posted by: Circe | Dec 31 2020 12:35 utc | 145 Posted by: Circe | Dec 31 2020 12:35 utc | 146
We here, down in the global south, really couldn’t care less about what goes on in your Imperial sausage factory. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 31 2020 12:50 utc | 146 RE: “On 11 November 2019, Le Mesurier was found dead in the street at 4:30 in the morning (1:30 GMT) in the Kemankeş Kara Mustafa Paşa neighbourhood of Beyoğlu, Istanbul, as a result of what appeared to have been a fall from his balcony.”
Why in the world would le Mesurier ever want to kill himself?
You know, come to think of it wasn’t that dirty rat Trump’s appointee “Bloody” GINA HASPEL CIA Chief in Nov 2019 when Le Mesurier ‘jumped’ [yeah…riight] out that balcony window in Istanbul? Posted by: gm | Dec 31 2020 13:15 utc | 147 @ Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 31 2020 6:26 utc | 134 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 31 2020 12:50 utc | 147 Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 31 2020 13:36 utc | 149 Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 31 2020 13:36 utc | 150 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 31 2020 14:02 utc | 150 Posted by: gm | Dec 31 2020 13:15 utc | 148 Posted by: Piotr Berman | Dec 31 2020 14:21 utc | 151 @suzan | Dec 31 2020 5:08 utc | 133 Posted by: gm | Dec 31 2020 14:36 utc | 152 “I am agnostic considering Le Mesurier death, but with a single bug and two well trained agents it could be stages.” Posted by: gm | Dec 31 2020 14:51 utc | 153 Happy Neonazi New Year, Ukrainians:
–//– The plotter’s plan was to blame Cuba for the assassination of our President thus bringing a retaliatory strike Posted by: librul | Dec 31 2020 15:09 utc | 155 Posted by: vk | Dec 31 2020 15:05 utc | 156
However, more ‘stimulus’ for welfare queen Israel is just awesome:
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 31 2020 15:21 utc | 156 Piotr Berman@123 makes fun of the difference in reported deaths on weekends in Spain, insinuating the victims are essentially murdered. The humor escapes me. But covid deaths being murders doesn’t explain why only Spain is killing fewer people on weekends. That alone suggests that something about the Spanish reporting system is introducing a systemic bias. Also, there is indeed one thing that doesn’t happen on weekends and “results” in official recording of death: Ending heroic measures, like terminating life support, which does indeed require certain bureaucratic procedures. Posted by: steven t johnson | Dec 31 2020 15:37 utc | 157 librul@157 erects an elaborate theory involving the dubious propositions that “evidence” would automatically enable anyone to put Johnson in jail or Robert F. Kennedy etc. Mere evidence does not suffice to blackmail a Johnson or a Kennedy. librul also assumes that the “Joint Chiefs of Staff” wanted to invade Cuba. Given that they were planning on fighting Communism in Vietnam, this actually requires evidence. librul is not reasoning, but indulging in free association fiction writing. If librul were engaged in actual reasoning, librul would also test these fictions against alternative explanations, such as Oswald actually being a Cuban agent. (The hypothesis that Oswald was a CIA plant may have arguments for it, but they aren’t given. Plus, many of these arguments so far as I know are in truth arguments that the Soviets regarded Oswald as a plant.) No, librul is aping reason, not reasoning. Posted by: steven t johnson | Dec 31 2020 15:47 utc | 158 Posted by: vk | Dec 31 2020 15:05 utc | 156
If it’s causing unease in India it’s going to cause projectile diarrhea in Britain. Imagine the implications in terms of further decoupling of the UK economy from the EU? Posted by: Arch Bungle | Dec 31 2020 15:56 utc | 159 Alleged American leftist, Jimmy Dore’s BFF, freaks out over the EU-China deal: vk @ 162 I think support for USA hegemonic projection in foreign to America places has become domestically inhibitory.. I am told people are begging Article I congress to refuse USA tax money expenditures for foreign anything and many i am told are insisting that global businesses not be allowed to do business inside of America. Article II Presidents have ignored the domestic resistance. It will be interesting to see the resistance Bidden gets if he ventures or continues the USA foreign ventures in foreign places or if he gives USA monopoly powered businesses any more Taxpayer money. Posted by: snake | Dec 31 2020 17:51 utc | 161 What we are witnessing is a reverse bank bailout. Posted by: ltc | Dec 31 2020 18:35 utc | 162 Pepe Escobar’s Year-ending essay recaps the growing matrix of Eurasian interconnectivity. His closing observation makes clear that Trump’s reign was very good for Russia all thanks to the Ds, although I’m sure neither will ever admit responsibility: Global Times comments on completion of China-EU Investment Treaty, which must still be ratified by the EU Parliament: Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 31 2020 19:12 utc | 165 Posted by: Paco | Dec 31 2020 19:29 utc | 165 Xi Jinping’s 2021 New Year address is filled with adoration and exhortation at the accomplishments of China’s people, which is very fitting. Onward into 2021 where a very important milestone will occur: Paco @165– Interesting comment in Putin’s Year end messages: Posted by: Bemildred | Dec 31 2020 20:20 utc | 168 Happy new year to all. May peace and security be in all our lives. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 31 2020 20:31 utc | 169 A significant proportion of American healthcare workers seems to be doubting the mRNA vaccines:
The part “scientific evidence is clear” is linked to a ridiculous Q&A made by the newspaper itself – not to a peer-reviewed scientific paper. In the part of this other article regarding the safety of the mRNA vaccines, it links to the FDA, other ridiculous articles by the LA Times itself (including one on the “vaccines cause autism” hoax that has nothing to do with the issue of the original article) and one article of the NY Times. It does not present any “scientific evidence” at all – let alone “clear” ones. It finishes with a ridiculous statement by FDA commissioner Stephen Hahn, who, asked about the fact that it is the first time the institution approves mRNA vaccines, answers that “We feel very comfortable with the platform. [mRNA]”. karlof1 #166
China is likely pushing a lot of top spin on the story. The first paragraph has more ‘cooperation’ than I have seen in a long time. Right now all these achievements and rumours of achievements are helpful to build public confidence at home and provide gravitas for further negotiation. China is mighty adept at sowing positive media and I suspect that is what irks the western propagandists so much. They had it easy in earlier decades when public announcements from the USSR and China were dead boring and quickly dominated by western hype. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 31 2020 20:50 utc | 171 The Union is strong and united across our magnificent planet. This is a review of industrial action and strikes and protests across the world in 2020. A good quick take on events past. Some of it surprising. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 31 2020 21:02 utc | 172 Here is comrade David Graeber on one of the significant perversions of our times. He expresses the position very clearly. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 31 2020 21:20 utc | 173 China New Year address from Xi Jinping to coincide with the west calendar here with english subtitles – a ten minute video. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 31 2020 22:05 utc | 174 uncle tungsten | Dec 31 2020 20:50 utc | 173 Posted by: Stonebird | Dec 31 2020 22:15 utc | 175 Re: “What I am to make of this…It’s Joe and Hunter Biden ” Posted by: gm | Dec 31 2020 22:30 utc | 176 stonebird #177 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 31 2020 22:57 utc | 177 gm #178
Apparently Durden has not heard of Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. That evil family of grifters shook down anyone and everyone across the planet. They even stole from Haiti – low lifes they were and likely unmatched in terms of earning capacity and callous disregard for humanity. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 31 2020 23:17 utc | 178 Fake news: My New Year gift. Ted Cruze doing dirty deals cheap and getting destroyed. One can only hope this low life manipulator is done for. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 31 2020 23:35 utc | 180 Australia has been badly led for decades. It’s religion is real estate and only when that religion goes will it get back on track. The laziness of digging stuff has made it corruptible and the Chinese can’t believe how cheap it is to buy a politician here. The new China will always bend the rules to the max for their own gain. So the rules need to be strong. You won’t get that from Europe or Australia so only demographics hold China back Posted by: BD6 | Dec 31 2020 23:50 utc | 181 Happy NY Posted by: BD6 | Jan 1 2021 0:09 utc | 182 Biden Cabinet infected by Rhodes virus
It is definitely worth the reading time. Be prepared. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 1 2021 0:12 utc | 183 Putin’s New Year Address was somewhat short but long on solidarity. The common theme for Xi and Putin was the unity of their polities while across the ocean the Outlaw US Empire is divided more than ever. -uncle tungsten | Dec 31 2020 23:35 utc | 182 Posted by: gm | Jan 1 2021 0:36 utc | 185 QANON gets a mention in the analysis of the Tennessee gas canister attack.
The 5G fear and loathing would be funny if it were not for these nutters. Go down empire and stay down. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 1 2021 1:01 utc | 186
This report is saturated with links to much of Andres writing and film. Of all the people I will honor most as the year progresses Andre Vltchek is the most treasured. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 1 2021 1:25 utc | 187 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 1 2021 1:01 utc | 188 Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 1 2021 1:27 utc | 188 Bemildred #190 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 1 2021 2:00 utc | 189 On the the ever-mutating Nashville Lee RV Oswald Christmas bomber narrative: Posted by: gm | Jan 1 2021 2:17 utc | 190 FIB Won’t need to much longer. Posted by: gm | Jan 1 2021 2:30 utc | 191 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 1 2021 2:00 utc | 191 Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 1 2021 2:41 utc | 192 Debsisdead@140 Posted by: bevin | Jan 1 2021 2:56 utc | 193 Below is a short quote from the beginning of a Reuters posting Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 1 2021 2:56 utc | 194 Tom Luongo’s latest, via ZH:
Posted by: gm | Jan 1 2021 3:04 utc | 195 Serena Shim award winner Dan Cohen thoroughly trashes the Democrat’s shill Nomiki Konst and others. The shill team has been doing pretzel bends to smear leaders calling for the #force the vote strategy by the squad. Some quotable quotes from the Mint Press News story.
This is the calibre of the fake left as they sell Obummers war abroad and penury at home for the establishment and its Democrat fixers. Its a good read and perhaps indicates the desperation that must be driving the Democrats right now. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 1 2021 3:16 utc | 196 Re my #198: Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 1 2021 3:36 utc | 197 Things have escalated in the employee who wasted 500 vaccines imbroglio: @ bevin – the book is by Jessica Bruder – that is nomadland which @ 140 debs shares a link to the movie of… Posted by: james | Jan 1 2021 4:20 utc | 199 So get this: your mangod Trump, whose loss many of you are so bitter about, wants to mess things up royally for Biden before being dragged from the Oval, still clinging to false hope while he’s kicked out the door. Posted by: Circe | Jan 1 2021 4:33 utc | 200 |
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