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November 22, 2020
The MoA Week In Review – Open Thread 2020-92

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:

> It was a shock on arriving at the New York Times in 2004, as the paper’s movie editor, to realize that its editorial dynamic was essentially the reverse. By and large, talented reporters scrambled to match stories with what internally was often called “the narrative.” We were occasionally asked to map a narrative for our various beats a year in advance, square the plan with editors, then generate stories that fit the pre-designated line.

Reality usually had a way of intervening. But I knew one senior reporter who would play solitaire on his computer in the mornings, waiting for his editors to come through with marching orders. Once, in the Los Angeles bureau, I listened to a visiting National staff reporter tell a contact, more or less: “My editor needs someone to say such-and-such, could you say that?”

The bigger shock came on being told, at least twice, by Times editors who were describing the paper’s daily Page One meeting: “We set the agenda for the country in that room.” <

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Other issues:

Lebanon:

Syria:

Covid-19:

> As of August 11, 24 of Kansas’s 105 counties did not opt out of the state mandate or adopted their own mask mandate shortly before or after the state mandate was issued; 81 counties opted out of the state mandate, as permitted by state law, and did not adopt their own mask mandate. After the governor’s executive order, COVID-19 incidence (calculated as the 7-day rolling average number of new daily cases per 100,000 population) decreased (mean decrease of 0.08 cases per 100,000 per day; net decrease of 6%) among counties with a mask mandate (mandated counties) but continued to increase (mean increase of 0.11 cases per 100,000 per day; net increase of 100%) among counties without a mask mandate (nonmandated counties). <

Use as open thread …

Posted by b on November 22, 2020 at 14:37 UTC | Permalink
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It seems like her brain is not for writing either.

Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 23 2020 15:30 utc | 101

Circe @Nov23 6:41 #84
The opinion piece that you link to is very powerful. But it ignores an important question: how the heck did Trump win in 2016? As you know, IMO it was not accidental.
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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 23 2020 15:39 utc | 102

@ Debsisdead | Nov 23 2020 8:00 utc | 87
In a recent call with the brother in N.J. I was informed that the traditional polling stations were only accepting votes from handicapped voters on their machines, all others were either turned away or given provisional ballots to fill out and submit as public announcements so directed as the policy to prevent Covid-19 spread. Traditional voters accustomed to in person voting were thus ‘discouraged’ from exercising their franchise at the poll. The question becomes who is most affected by the policy and is this voter suppression? Most will have to wait until the movie of the 2020 election is produced (two versions – red version and blue version, take your pick) to find the answer to this burning question. For one I haven’t a doubt there being hardly a difference between the major political parties in their ability for the fine skills of voter suppression. The 2020 election will have forever destroyed all trust in the citizen’s voice via public polling the way this is proceeding; how are they going to be able to have their ‘democracy’ without the vote?

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Nov 23 2020 15:53 utc | 103

What does it mean that Sidney Powell has been disavowed by Trump/Trump Legal Team?

  1. Her allegations don’t have much substance – Sidney’s evidence is unlikely to help overturn the election.
  2. Trump wants to distance himself from allegations of Venezuelan and/or Chinese election “meddling”.
    Oh, he WANTS those allegations, but he doesn’t want to OWN them (i.e. be forced to act on them).
  3. Sidney’s allegations create legal jeopardy because the companies that she targets could sue her or the Trump campaign. ‘Law and Order’ Trump apparently doesn’t want to engage in that fight because the evidence is weak or CIA/MI6/Mossad election-meddlers don’t want the public scrutiny.
  4. We may NEVER see the evidence that Sidney has compiled. She says she will carry on. But Kraken are finicky creatures: fearsome when released but they soon become cute buggers that are eager for a tummy rub.
    A cynic would ask if evidence-free allegations of election meddling by foreign powers was always the plan.

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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 23 2020 16:02 utc | 104

Excellent article at Mint Press, a timely reminder that all US elections include massive fraud
“…Actual voter and election fraud takes place in every national American election and is just as prevalent in state and municipal elections, as well. From vote splitting to voter suppression tactics to direct manipulation of election results, both political parties have usurped the electoral processes to lie and cheat their way into power more than once…”
And it gets worse every election cycle.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/election-fraud-is-real-longstanding-tradition-both-sides-of-the-aisle/273109/

Posted by: bevin | Nov 23 2020 16:09 utc | 105

This is likely not a propos of any of the above collated posts by B, but it does refer to an earlier post here (or elsewhere) about my thoughts on the role of “International schools,” “American Schools,” i.e. western schools. All (or all to my knowledge) are private schools charging parents sizable fees, so obviously not for the larger, poorer segments of their given societies, countries.
I have suggested previously that the whole underlying aim of these schools is to thoroughly Westernize the influential elites, bourgeoisie in a whole breadth of cultures in the Third or Developing World. To bring those countries well into the imperial orbit, control and thereby to destroy all internal, cultural, societal, governmental efforts against being “westernized,” skeletonized.
Today in our shared email was a “copy” of the American School at which both my late husband (high school teacher of IB Psychology and Philosophy) and I worked (in North Africa). We’d not had any or many of these prior to a couple of months ago… Just now, I’ve zipped through it and landed at that part of all online stuff where the less than interesting data is (you know, address, phone number etc. etc.). Guess what I saw as plain as bloody day?
The Symbol/shield of the US State Department and the wording (by the USSD): “US State Dept Assisted School.”
We – that is my late husband and me – had no f***ing clue at the time.
If there were ANY doubt about the underlying “work” that such schools do, their real reason for being….

Posted by: Anne | Nov 23 2020 16:18 utc | 106

Posted by: Geoff | Nov 23 2020 15:22 utc | 100
I agree, with Trump it’s all luck, good luck or bad luck, it sure as hell is not negotiating ability, creative thinking, or encyclopaedic grasp of reality. He was born rich and never looked back, turned his wealth into a lucrative career in slum housing, reality TV and beauty pageants, cutting a wide swath through the less critical and more adventurous part of the world’s female population. A modern heir to P. T. Barnum and a long line of other USA-ian grifters.

Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 23 2020 16:25 utc | 107

@72 migueljose
Indeed good news, migueljose. Boot Yankee out of Latin America. National liberation movements in Middle East (Axis of Resistance) are doing the same.
@88 v
Check that as a confirmed story. Worth to notice the attack happen almost at the same time as Pompeo and allegedly Netanyahu (not confirmed) were visiting clown prince MBS.

Posted by: Framarz | Nov 23 2020 16:38 utc | 108

PMIs continue to degrade in the First World, except for the USA:
The business activity indexes (PMIs) have been released for November
The USA accrued a significant recovery of its PMI because it essentially has given up any attempts of lockdown. However, it is irrelevant in the greater scheme of things, as manufacture is not the game changer to American GDP anymore; instead, services is the main dynamo.
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America’s Zombie Companies Have Racked Up $1.4 Trillion of Debt
This is one of the most glaring features of “Late Capitalism”: the zombification of the petite-bourgeoisie, specially of that of the First World (Global North). It’s not capitalism that failed the middle class, but the middle class that failed capitalism.

Posted by: vk | Nov 23 2020 16:55 utc | 109

Re: Biden transision, secretary of state
Biden to name Tony Blinken [TheHill].
His bio includes various positions in Obama NSC. Prior to that was Biden’s chief of staff for Senate Foreign Relations Committee, while Biden was chairman/ranking-member* of the powerful committee. In particular, this covered the entire Iraq war time period. Biden of course not only supported the Iraq war, he used his leadership in the committee to suppress witnesses who wanted to blow the whistle on the lack of evidence for the Iraq WMD narrative. So the neocon’s presumably got to know this guy and are comfortable with him.
* due to control of the Senate changing from R/D and back several times during the 2000’s

Posted by: ptb | Nov 23 2020 16:58 utc | 110

COVID-19 incidence (calculated as the 7-day rolling average number of new daily cases per 100,000 population) decreased (mean decrease of 0.08 cases per 100,000 per day; net decrease of 6%) among counties with a mask mandate (mandated counties) but continued to increase (mean increase of 0.11 cases per 100,000 per day; net increase of 100%) among counties without a mask mandate (nonmandated counties).

Uh-oh Norwegian’s not going to accept those facts; his head might spin.
So how do these facts square with your relentless effort at continuing to prop up Trump and his criminal regime when Trump machismo and deception undermined mask-wearing and his denial of scientific fact is the main reason Kansan Trump bushwackers continue to defy reality and even on their deathbed deny that Covid is real?

Posted by: Circe | Nov 23 2020 17:38 utc | 111

IMPLEMENTING these machines a few years later in the US a WILLFUL electoral crime.
imagine .. I am a notorious thief, they hire me as a security guard. That would be
willfully, knowingly hiring a criminal, which would be criminal, not because of the facts,
but because of the logic. by: Featherless @ 35 @ 26 <= because human rights include the right to self determination, fraud at the poll is a crime against humanity. <= if HR government (the government of the masses) were implemented The liability of the civil government officials is to human rights. If my HR proposal were implemented such officials would be removed from office pending judicial determination of their guilt in the court of the human rights government. The USA is slowly but surely becoming the international headquarters for the far-right. It is sleepwalking into becoming the Third Reich of WWIII. by: vk @ 34

Posted by: snake | Nov 23 2020 17:42 utc | 112

Protests reveal pitfalls of Tsai’s policies

On November 22, Taipei was rocked by protests organized by labor groups and the opposition Kuomintang (KMT), angry over the decision of the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) to allow the import of sub-standard U.S. pork containing the chemical ractopamine, an animal feed additive which is banned in the European Union and multiple countries in the world due to its links to cardiovascular problems.
Discontent was also voiced at the prospect of Taipei importing U.S. beef over 30 months old.

Is the Western MSM gonna report this?
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@ Posted by: snake | Nov 23 2020 17:42 utc | 113
Every decent historian knows the Zionists supported Hitler. This is no secret.

Posted by: vk | Nov 23 2020 18:09 utc | 113

The Sidney Powell “affair” with the Trump legal team has, in my opinion 3 possibilities (not exclusive):
a) They consider Powell is just crazy, she does not have enough solid evidences, and it is better to maintain distance from her rants and deliriums (tremens).
b) Powell has some good solid proofs but the s**t could affect both parties and she is opening a Pandora’s box that show how corrupt and rigged the elections are from its inception. A lot of republicans scammers could also be affected and that could divide the party.
c) It is all a farce and really is in the “team”, but need to be considered “outsider” due to the risky assumptions she made, that coud affect the “seriousness” of the republican party, and to earn some money from the more radical part of the alt-right.
Anyway seeing history, I don’t consider Powell is following a good strategy for self preservation, especially is point b) is true.

Posted by: DFC | Nov 23 2020 18:42 utc | 114

This visit of Netanyahu to Riyadh is being publicised everywhere now. It was on the BBC news just now. In my view, it’s an attempt to put the fix on MbS to submit and accept. I think it would be foolish of MbS to do so. It risks destabilising the Saudi dynasty. There are already lots of Saudi tribes already on the verge of revolt against the Najdis in Riyadh. Trump and Netanyahu think it is just a matter of a deal between rulers. In the Gulf that’s so, but not in Saudi. Of course it may be that MbS will give way and accept, and we’ll see what happens. Of course the Saudis control well their media, and you don’t get to hear about most of the revolts.

Posted by: Laguerre | Nov 23 2020 18:49 utc | 115

@ Posted by: DFC | Nov 23 2020 18:42 utc | 115
She doesn’t have any evidence (because there’s none). She already went to live television and when the anchor pressed her to show the evidence, she merely claimed she would bring her “numbers guy” to explain to him.
The argument is that the algorithm “flips” votes from one candidate to the other, and that it was code written by Hugo Chávez with Cuban and “maybe Chinese” help. The only way to prove that is showing the lines of the code.

Posted by: vk | Nov 23 2020 18:57 utc | 116

Re Sydney Powell; A reasonable answer to why she is distanced from (and she distanced herself from) the Trump campaign is Finanace. As an independent she is not under restrictions on Government spending or fund raising. If she was under Government surveillance there are probably several ways in which she could have her actions limited by “third party oversight”.
(gleaned From ZH article)
Negative reporting does not the truth support. (star wars)

Posted by: Stonebird | Nov 23 2020 19:12 utc | 117

Saudi Arabia’s foreign minister, Prince Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud, denied the two had spoken. “No such meeting occurred,” he tweeted. “The only officials present were American and Saudi.”

Netanyahu may well have gone to Saudi, Pompeo would have pressured, but the tweet shows the difficulty of the Saudi position. They can’t admit publicly to the Israeli contacts. That will continue. People have been talking forever about a Saudi deal with Israel, but it never happens. Much like the US attack on Iran never happens. It’s for basic politico-military reasons, whatever the imaginations of the current occupier of the White House may be.

Posted by: Laguerre | Nov 23 2020 19:28 utc | 118

Posted by: vk | Nov 23 2020 18:57 utc | 117
“The only way to prove that is showing the lines of the code.”
Well OK, may be miss Powell had some help from some brilliant hackers that had access to the source code, or even to the “events” in real time and recorded them, there are thousands of brilliant software engineers inside and outside USA, and may be some of them really were waiting exactly for that, because I think your baroque election system is designed to have fraud as a feature, not as a flaw.
May be, just may be, some strong foreign leader fed up of being accused of electoral fraud and of receiving lessons of “democracy”, “freedom”, “transparency” and “decency” from USA consider a good idea to “release de Kraken” and show how corrupt and rigged the american system really is.
Just for fun…

Posted by: DFC | Nov 23 2020 20:16 utc | 119

Decent historians may know that the Zionists supported the Nazis, but to write about it now is career suicide. David Irving wrote about it, and look what happened to him. Heinz Hoehne wrote about it in “Gebt mir vier Jahre Zeit”, but that’s in German, so how many people know? Edwin Black wrote about it in “The Transfer Agreement”, but he was made to back down.

Posted by: lysias | Nov 23 2020 21:02 utc | 120

On the history of election-stealing in the U.S., there’s a very interesting passage in Daniel Ellsberg’s book Secrets:
“In Vietnam, as in Iraq, the U.S. government pushed hard to get an election to sanctify its puppet regime. Ellsberg, who spent two years in Vietnam after his time in the Pentagon, aided some of the key U.S. officials in this effort who sought an honest vote. But when U.S. Ambassador Henry Cabot Lodge heard their pitch, he replied, “You’ve got a gentleman in the White House right now [Johnson] who has spent most of his life rigging elections. I’ve spent most of my life rigging elections. I spent nine whole months rigging a Republican convention to choose Ike as a candidate rather than Bob Taft.” Lodge later ordered, “Get it across to the press that they shouldn’t apply higher standards here in Vietnam than they do in the U.S.”
“But Lodge’s comments were downright uplifting compared with a meeting that Ellsberg attended with former Vice President Richard Nixon, who was visiting Vietnam on a “fact-finding mission” to help bolster his presidential aspirations. Former CIA operative Edward Lansdale told Nixon that he and his colleagues wanted to help “make this the most honest election that’s ever been held in Vietnam.” Nixon replied, “Oh, sure, honest, yes, honest, that’s right … so long as you win!” With the last words he did three things in quick succession: winked, drove his elbow hard into Lansdale’s arm, and slapped his own knee.”

Posted by: lysias | Nov 23 2020 21:10 utc | 121

@ lysias | Nov 23 2020 21:10 utc | 122
Yes, and you can also remember Sam Giancana and the election of the “messiah” JFK in 1960 and the other boys associated to the CIA, sure all “fair and clean” like the Mafia.

Posted by: DFC | Nov 23 2020 21:42 utc | 122

Re people bragging about fixing elections, it is a bedrock principle of justice that a confession is worthless without corroborating evidence. This is even truer when the so-called confession isn’t made under oath or some other duress. Boasting you can rig elections can be very gratifying but taking Henry Cabot Lodge on his (unsworn!) word is a risky business. Because, yes, people can “confess” to things they didn’t do because they want to be big and bad. If you think otherwise, re-watch the Access:Hollywood tape to hear Trump confess to being a habitual sexual assaulter. And for organization like the CIA, taking credit they don’t deserve is standard operating procedure.
Outright vote falsification is carried out by the government. (In the US, at state level, that’s mostly….Republicans!) Otherwise, “rigging” an election is done by nefarious *but legal* means, like manipulating the media (the equivalent of working the refs,) money, leaks, money, buying off candidates, money…And, oh, yes, money. But you know what? There isn’t any way to guarantee money will do that trick! That’s why the rich people are getting so tired of getting extorted by politicians threatening them with a mere popular mandate.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Nov 23 2020 23:19 utc | 123

It seems as though orangetan’s negotians were successful and the GSA has been told to release resources to the transition team.
I have no doubt that the call to accentuate Dominion weaknesses was irrelevant to this election simply because use of these exploits would require hundreds of co-conspirators, but nevertheless they may well be there placed by US intelligence to be used in other nations especially Venezuala where amerika had willing co-conspirators through all levels of government who had been placed there by consent during the fascist pre-Chavez administrations. More than likely both Chavez & Maduro flushed those rats out & down the sewers over the term of their administrations making the amerikan election theft untenable, so forcing reliance on ‘some guy’ after which agents would have been put back into the system guaranteeing that the United Socialist Party of Venezuela could never win another election.
orangetan’s ploy of using Sydney Powell to reveal Dominion’s flaws was crafty as we saw when the intelligence service backed off and promised to stop their harassment, orangetan cut powell loose.
If a deal had not been reached,evidence in court proving that the exposure of Dominion’s ability to rig elections was true would have been followed by a subsequent inquiry revealing amerikan agents coded the thing. That would have bought a whole lot of heat on state plus cia/nsa. I dunno who developed this plan maybe orangetan tho it does seem to be above his ability plus his motor mouth would have blown the gaff too early.
One thing is for sure, despite the media nonsense there will be no huge investigation of orangetan leading to any charges. In the end his greed & corruption was standard stuff for any amerikan administration – except he did go after scores in the military that had always considered themselves inviolate outside the normal procurement/jobs for the boys scams.
It made no sense to donnie for all those billions to get spent with a flourish of his pen yet he didn’t get to cop a commish, so he sorted that.
The career crooks in defence intelligence & state wanted to go after him to teach a lesson to the next greedy grub, but it looks as though orangetan outplayed them all.
If he has we can be sure that dopey joe’s beady little eyes will have been watching and learning.
Orangetan has lead to a whole new standard. A prez doesn’t quit with a lousy $80 to $100 mill from a few corrupt publishers any longer, from now on a prez must leave a billionaire, flush from a ‘commish’ on every war he/she kicks off. It doesn’t even have to be a ‘real war’ – whats a few percentage points outta the hundreds of millions spent on all those missiles jared & ivanka persuaded orangetan to hurl at Syria?

Posted by: Debsisdead | Nov 24 2020 1:32 utc | 124

@ Debsisdead | Nov 24 2020 1:32 utc | 125 who wrote
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orangetan’s ploy of using Sydney Powell to reveal Dominion’s flaws was crafty as we saw when the intelligence service backed off and promised to stop their harassment, orangetan cut powell loose.
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I think cutting Powell loose is part of a bigger plan by those of faith to show off the corruption of the US govt. to insure that America does not go back to a secular republic any time soon. Sydney Powell’s “Let the chips fall where they may.” and her “biblical proportions” reference are tells to me.
The shit show circus of late empire is starting up another entertainment ring around US (s)election fraud to further incense the public into NOT top/bottom and keep focus off the Covid profit focused management.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 24 2020 2:28 utc | 125

Just to prove to you all that I try to live up to integrity, the moment Trump is in the rear view and I don’t have to worry about him reappearing again and again like Max Cady in Cape Fear, then I will prove to be Joe Biden’s most formidable critic, but mindful not to pave the way for a Trump re-emergence.
I’ll start now by stating that although Tony Blinken helped draft the JCPOA, on matters relating to Israel he sucks!
The only way to get Israel to follow the rule of law is to pull funding and Blinken will never go there, therefore he’s all wrong for SoS, besides he’s a damn Liberal Zionist! What the hell is that? An oxymoron?
However, the House Foreign Affairs Committee has a chance to vote a Progressive for the Chair, and that might help to steer foreign policy in a new direction.
joaquin-castro-aims-to-bring-the-progressive-wave-to-the-house-foreign-affairs-committee

Posted by: Circe | Nov 24 2020 5:52 utc | 126

Trump’s attack on Dominion and Smartmatic would also be a good way to cover for intel agency’s hacking of the 2016 election to elect Trump.
Trumpy HAD TO WIN those mid-western states in 2016. Hillary’s not campaigning in those states was not a guaranty of success.
CIA pride themselves on being able to hack any system. And moa commentators have noted many times that the West often accuses others of what they do themselves.
The Empire is a bi-partisan affair. No true “populist outsider” will ever be President absent blood in the streets.
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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 24 2020 13:12 utc | 127

Posted by: bevin | Nov 23 2020 16:09 utc | 106
That Mint article is not up to snuff…

Posted by: notlurking | Nov 24 2020 13:34 utc | 128

The mind-numbing INSANITY of Trump’s legal team.

  1. First Pennsylvania. No one should be surprised that Trump lost. The suit was against the Pennsylvania Secretary of State, Kathy Boockvar, and seven individual counties. It relied on two plaintiffs — two Pennsylvania men who said their mail-in ballots had been canceled for technical reasons, and they were not given a chance to correct them.
    The judge agreed that the two men had suffered what is called an “injury in fact” — that is, their votes had not counted. But the problem was, neither man lived in any of the seven counties the Trump campaign named as defendants in the case. So none of the defendant counties had had anything to do with the ballots in question. In addition, the suit did not tie the plaintiffs’ situation to Boockvar. So none of the defendants had anything to do with the plaintiffs’ complaints.
  2. On Thursday, Powell had alleged that there was an international conspiracy, fueled by “the massive influence of communist money through Venezuela, Cuba, and likely China,” to overturn a Trump victory in the election. She alleged that the Dominion voting system and Smartmatic software, originally developed for Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chavez, had flipped hundreds of thousands or even millions of votes from Donald Trump to Joe Biden. She said that she would prove Trump “won by a landslide.”
    When journalists, notably Fox News’ Tucker Carlson, asked Powell to provide some evidence to back up her charge, she refused. That led to a weird divide among some Trump supporters. Journalists questioned Powell’s case while some supporters attacked the journalists, saying Powell had the evidence but had no obligation to reveal it to the public. It would all come out in court, they said.
    Then Powell went even farther. On Friday night, she appeared on Newsmax, where she alleged that the Republican governor of Georgia, Brian Kemp, and the Republican Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger, were “in on the Dominion scam.” She said Kemp and Raffensperger had accepted payoffs as part of the conspiracy….
    Powell finally went too far. She was accusing Georgia’s top officials of bribery but would not offer any evidence other than she had “been told” there was evidence. Within 24 hours, the Trump legal team sent out this brief press release: “Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. She is not a member of the Trump legal team. She is also not a lawyer for the president in his personal capacity.” Powell was out, although she can certainly continue to act on her own, as another pro-Trump lawyer, Georgia’s Lin Wood, is doing. But where that leaves her theory and vow to “blow up” Georgia is unclear.
    Speaking of Georgia, Powell’s antics, on behalf of the president’s team, threatened to roil and divide Republicans in the state that is vitally important to the GOP right now. Georgia means everything. Its two Senate runoff races on January 5 will determine who will control the Senate in the first two years of the Biden presidency. If Republicans control the Senate, they can stop Biden’s agenda cold, and in the process preserve some of Trump’s legacy. If Democrats win the Senate, with their narrow control of the House, there are almost no limits on what they can do.
    So it was politically ill-advised — some would say crazy — to seek to “blow up” Georgia. The goal for Republicans is to win Georgia. They will not do that by accusing the state’s Republican governor, who is a strong supporter of the president, of corruption.

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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 24 2020 14:50 utc | 129

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 24 2020 14:50 utc | 130
Regarding the entertaining theatrics by Trump’s “legal team”: well, as embarassing as it is, it still looks like vintage Trump to me, his choices in minions and underlings seem to be shaped by his great discomfort in being around people who are smarter than he is.
I have read various articles hyping Guiliani and Powell’s legal acumen, which knowing nothing about I took as having some weight, but I think we can kiss that idea goodbye. Since Trump has acknowledged the need to begin the transition, I expect the “legal team” will retreat from public view now while still hanging around to collect more contributions.

Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 24 2020 15:08 utc | 130

Circe <- vocal advocate for the war candidate. Scum don't get to vote for war then dodge responsibility for their actions.

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 25 2020 19:02 utc | 131

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