Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
November 07, 2020

Regime Change In Washington Paves Way To More Nefarious Policies

It seems that the powers that be are finally managing to get rid of U.S. President Donald Trump.

While Trump's domestic policies have been as much to the favor of the very rich as those of his predecessors, his foreign policies were remarkably different. A Harris (Biden) regime will return to 'business as usual' and be more aggressive. That is the reason why I for one will miss Trump.

The unceremonial dethronement of Trump will also have domestic consequences. His voters will inevitably call it a fraud. A Harris (Biden) administration is unlikely to have the funds needed to fight the pandemic and its disastrous economic consequences. That together could give rise to a challenger who combines Trump's rightwing populism with political competence. That is a prospect everyone should fear.

Ever since Donald Trump entered the political stage he was fought by the military-media-intelligence establishment with ruthless campaigns designed to regime change him:

The seeds of this scheme were planted several months prior to the 2016 election when Hillary Clinton authorized a smear campaign against Trump alleging that he's secretly a “Russian agent”. It was hoped that this would discredit the race's frontrunner and thus result in handing her the presidency that November. This eventually morph into the discredited “Steele dossier” and the subsequent Russiagate conspiracy theory. The purpose of these information warfare provocations was to delegitimize Trump's election, insincerely present the Democrats as the guardians of America's electoral integrity, and therefore powerfully shape public perceptions ahead of the 2020 election. During the interim, a related narrative was weaponized claiming that Trump is a corrupt lawbreaker and wannabe dictator who'll cling to power at all costs.

Now, as it seems that Joe Biden may win the presidency, there is no longer a need to promote the fake 'Russiagate' stories.

Bryan MacDonald @27khv - 10:37 UTC · Nov 7, 2020

Amazing how quick the "Russian meddling" narrative died, in the US, once it became clear that the 'correct' candidate was going to win the election, wasn't it?
After all, the folk who pushed it don't want to delegitimise Joe Biden's forthcoming presidency.

Just in time for the election three major pillars of 'Russiagate' were thoroughly debunked and quietly buried.

Michael Tracey @mtracey - 14:51 UTC · Nov 3, 2020

Amazing. Hours before Election Day comes news that Mueller aggressively tried to prosecute Assange and Roger Stone for a conspiracy related to the 2016 DNC/Podesta emails, but ran into "factual...hurdles" which could not establish any conspiracy. Perfect time to memory-hole this

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Raw intelligence - Meduza spoke to all the likely sources behind the ‘Steele dossier.’ The report that forever transformed Donald Trump into a ‘Russian agent’ looks less and less convincing.
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Self-styled whistleblower Christopher Wylie and The Guardian reporter Carole Cadwalladr earned film deals and flashy awards by blaming Brexit and Trump on a sweeping conspiracy between data firm Cambridge Analytica and Russia. A British government investigation shatters their claims to fame.

It is no wonder then that Trump's followers now doubt all vote counts that disfavor him.

Max Abrahms @MaxAbrahms - 12:50 UTC · Nov 6, 2020
Mainstream media has played a huge role in eroding American confidence in our elections. They spent four years saying Trump’s 2016 win was just a gift from Putin. Now the media is incredulous that so many Americans don’t trust the electoral system they succeeded in discrediting.

Given the way Trump was fought throughout the last four and a half years it is hard to believe that the current part of the process, especially the counting of absentee / mail-in votes, is handled without similar shenanigans taking place.

Consider what a 2012 New York Times piece on mail-in ballots had to say:

Election administrators have a shorthand name for a central weakness of voting by mail. They call it granny farming.

“The problem,” said Murray A. Greenberg, a former county attorney in Miami, “is really with the collection of absentee ballots at the senior citizen centers.” In Florida, people affiliated with political campaigns “help people vote absentee,” he said. “And help is in quotation marks.”

Voters in nursing homes can be subjected to subtle pressure, outright intimidation or fraud. The secrecy of their voting is easily compromised. And their ballots can be intercepted both coming and going.

The problem is not limited to the elderly, of course. Absentee ballots also make it much easier to buy and sell votes. In recent years, courts have invalidated mayoral elections in Illinois and Indiana because of fraudulent absentee ballots.

And what about this? Why are private media companies allowed to selectively censor the president?

Michael Tracey @mtracey - 15:14 UTC · Nov 6, 2020

The majority of Trump's recent tweets are currently censored. I don't care how misleading or even false they are. That's not for Twitter to arbitrate. People cheering this power-grab by unelected tech officials are authoritarian dupes

Claiming that 'Trump is evil' or that he lies as all politicians do does not justify this.

From an international perspective Trump is certainly not the worst president ever:

Without Trump, the world stage will be poorer. Trump was good for world peace. He didn’t start a war anywhere, which is not something that can be said for most of his predecessors. Trump was a master of skulduggery — a farcical coup attempt in Venezuela, a ghastly political assassination in Iraq — but indeed knew where to stop when Iran rained a hundred missiles on the American bases in Iraq.

Trump claimed to be ever ready to have a battle but never had one. He vowed to unleash “fire and fury” on North Korea but ended up saying, “We fell in love”, after the [then] historic meeting in 2018 with Kim Jong Un. In reality, Trump unwittingly speeded up the processes favouring multipolarity.

We will of course not miss Mike Pompous, the most lying Secretary of State ever, or Matthew Pottinger who tried his best to antagonize China. Nor will we miss Marshall Bellingslea who intended to destroy all the arms control agreements that have kept this planet alive.

But those were side figures and much less effective than they would have been with the full backing of a competent president. They are mere rats who are now already leaving the ship.

Ragıp Soylu @ragipsoylu - 10:13 UTC · Nov 7, 2020

James Jeffrey, US Special Envoy for Syria, is leaving his post after an apparent Biden victory — Asharq Al-Awsat

What we must fear now is the 'business as usual' that is coming next:

Trump has not been defeated by a Bernie Sanders; he has been defeated by a corrupt political hack backed to the hilt by the large majority of the billionaire owned media, financed out of Wall street and with no intention of pursuing anything other than neo-liberal economic policies. It is also the firm re-establishment of the rule of the security state and the military-industrial complex. Trump’s instinctive isolationism made him an enemy of the security state interest which spent a great deal of time in trying to undermine its President.

With Biden we will return to business as usual, and that means war and invasions. Under Trump we have had no new wars started, even if he continued old ones with little control. Without Trump, I have not the tiniest doubt that Syria would have been bombed back to the Stone Age, exactly like Libya, and millions more people would have been killed. Irrespective of the undoubted damage Trump has caused inside the United States across many fronts, Hillary would have killed a lot more people. Just not Americans.

The Harris (Biden) foreign policy will be much more aggressive than Trump's has ever been:

The Biden campaign has worked tirelessly over the past year to channel the image of Joe Biden as a “serious person,” particularly on foreign policy matters. Biden, according to this narrative, is an elder statesman who grasps the intricacies of international politics. Trump, by contrast, is presented as an inept bull in a china shop who only speaks the language of “fire and fury.” Only Biden, we are told, can bring back stability around the globe.

 

Don’t believe a word of it. This carefully curated image of Joe Biden’s strategic acumen and geopolitical foresight is at odds with the former vice president’s own stated views and policy track record. His statements about a variety of countries suggest that they are based less on a strategic view of world affairs than snap judgments.

The Harris (Biden) regime is likely to concentrate on foreign policy because it will, for lack of money, have trouble to be effective on domestic issues.

The Senate is likely to stay under Republican control. After trillions of deficits accumulated under Trump the Republicans will now, under a Democratic president, again find their inner deficit hawk:

Chris Cioffi @ReporterCioffi - 16:00 UTC · Nov 6, 2020

Senate committee talk from Graham: If we keep the Senate which I think we will and I become Budget chairman. I'd like to create a dialogue about how can we finally begin to address the debt.

While a runaway pandemic unleashes its devastating economic consequences the new Republican austerity position is likely to have catastrophic effects.

For the next four years Trump and his followers will inevitably claim that fraud must have played a role in his loss.

James Melville @JamesMelville 23:33 UTC · Nov 4, 2020

In the movie “Citizen Kane,” a tycoon runs for political office. In advance of the election result, his newspaper prepares two headlines after the election. One headline says: “Kane Elected” and the other says: “Fraud At Polls.”
This feels spookily prophetic today.

We have reasons to fear what is likely to evolve from this.

chinahand @chinahand - 15:12 UTC · Nov 4, 2020

Watching trumpers bringing the dolchstoss is nice support for my thesis "the dark energy of fascism will draw its power from trump's defeat not his victory"

The disputed election, the gigantic economic downturn and an aggressive foreign policy will pave the way for a more effective populist:

Make no mistake: The attempt to harness Trumpism—without Trump, but with calculated, refined, and smarter political talent—is coming. And it won’t be easy to make the next Trumpist a one-term president. He will not be so clumsy or vulnerable. He will get into office less by luck than by skill.
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At the moment, the Democratic Party risks celebrating Trump’s loss and moving on—an acute danger, especially because many of its constituencies, the ones that drove Trump’s loss, are understandably tired. A political nap for a few years probably looks appealing to many who opposed Trump, but the real message of this election is not that Trump lost and Democrats triumphed. It’s that a weak and untalented politician lost, while the rest of his party has completely entrenched its power over every other branch of government: the perfect setup for a talented right-wing populist to sweep into office in 2024. And make no mistake: They’re all thinking about it.

While I would not have voted for Trump I rue what is following him.

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Mainstream opinion is growing its grip, passions rise!

Like in all Cult-like social systems and Oligarchies, fear of expressing non-conventionality rises, ppl take sides and beg for acceptance, or try to maintain / augment their shown previous adherence …to the winners…

Many ppl quickly switch to supporting the Overlord Trend, or, in this case, the ‘Winner’ as announced by the MSM (not Gvmt.) - gotta love your Media. (Biden for now.)

The US (for Prez.) electoral system, so very patchy - locally, precint plus and/or State managed in x - in all kinds of weird ways - with arcane rules set down and enforced by local potentates, use of computers, algos, weird combos of digital machines, and paper, rules and methods of counting ballots and observer participation, dating cheats, lying and tricking voters on the spot (giving out bad pens), and more…

All that is without the previous set ups (defining districts, voter suppression, reducing voting points in x or y, and more) and/or ‘cheating’ that is ‘allowed’ …Rules change, nobody gets upset, the organisors just smile, etc., ppl are turned away, they are submissive, ballots are thrown out or in, etc.

It is all designed to throw up the result the most powerful want, within some limits. It is a situation of domination via applying influence, coercion, threats, payment and approval and perks, all of which may be ‘soft’ (*You* are not part of the team anymore..! Oh We Welcome Jania-Rob Pubus, a super woman on our side..)

'Democracy’ or ‘democratic voting’ are fakey fig-leaf lies, designed to legitimise the PTB and mock, squash, or even forcibly repress, those who object or contest the results.

Link, a summary of some of the voter / election fraud this time round. It does not address the magnitude, which I believe to be very high, obviously others will deny, there is not way to decide.

Due to mathematical reasoning of the ppl being dumbed down, the grip of the MSM (and wiki btw), rationality and uncertainty - both essential and in a way necessary partners - are lost.

Any argument to bolster one’s favored tribe (to survive!), e.g DT vs JB, Dem vs. Rep, via. the ‘votes’ registered can never be conclusive, or even really pertinent, there is never any ‘proof.’

Hysteria rules the land.

The system is designed to augment quarrels, strife, pit ppl against each other, divide to conquer. While giving large freeway or ‘scope’ to the wannabee psychopaths who are brave enough to throw their hats into the ring, guaranteeing they are willing to ‘up’ others, go further, tell more lies, be more domineering, cruel.

https://theredelephants.com/there-is-undeniable-mathematical-evidence-the-election-is-being-stolen/

Apologies for the length.


Posted by: Noirette | Nov 7 2020 16:45 utc | 101

@ Circe | Nov 7 2020 16:42 utc | 100
LOL, the media does not decide

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 7 2020 16:46 utc | 102

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Posted by: Circe | Nov 7 2020 16:42 utc | 100

Posted by: Circe | Nov 7 2020 16:47 utc | 103

blind pig @4 - Clearly an American Exceptionalist...Why the fuck should America, including its military have ANY bloody say, interfere in the sovereignty of ANY other nation, including Venezuela and/Iran? We have NO legal Right. None. Nor any Humane, Moral or Ethical right. None.

Thank you b for this perceptive and realistic overview.

What some here seem to believe is that if you aren't absolutely, demonstratively going to be PRO the Blue Faces (as represented by the specious arses Biden and Harris - but then, there is NO difference twixt either colored face of the Janus party) then you must be a Strumpet supporter. NO.

And you are right, I'm sure. A Biden Harris Wh will bring on more warmongering, more bloodshed, destruction visited by the US upon other peoples far from these shores, and peoples who are no genuine threat to our so-called national security. All utter twaddle, that propaganda.

But the bourgeoisie are thrilled - more money in their banks (via their shares in the MIC). The US bourgeoisie - middle to upper plus the plutocrats - are soulless, immoral Mammon and Moloch lickspittles...Well and expensively educated, for sure. But as ignorant as buggery. Certainly as totally and utterly as uncaring, unconcerned (so long as not brought over here in any way shape or form; so long as they can continue to profit from slaughter and environmental degradation).

And they - the bourgeoisie - have the unspeakable nerve to talk derogatively about the "uneducated" Trump supporters.... Those thickos - who do the cleaning, caring and cooking, the garbage collecting, the "garden" maintenance, waitressing etc etc., i.e. the essential jobs, unlike all those Zoom maintained, highly recompensed, occupations (not "jobs," gordon bennett) - don't know their betters, their arse from their elbow - or so we are told (on NPR).

But what has changed in centuries? The hoi polloi, the plebeians, the lumpen proletariat have ALWAYS been viewed as - at best, believe me - incapable of recognizing their own best interests. And here in the "work hard and you'll make it (what, exactly?)" culture/society anyone who remains on those very bottom ladder rungs, never mind how much sweat, hours, effort they put in, are considered, by the bourgeois, as being totally, completely responsible for their own condition.

Oh, right.

Posted by: Anne | Nov 7 2020 16:50 utc | 104

Sitting at outdoor cafe as the weather is bizarrely warm for November. News just came through. General jubilation, car horns, pots and pans, cheers. Social distancing immediately went out window. Completely. Masks off. Hugs. And general discussion of retribution. This mob wants blood.

Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 7 2020 16:50 utc | 105

By the way, just to add. Trump being booted out of office 'unfairly' may be the optimal scenario for him in certain ways.

Posted by: Muslim_Dude | Nov 7 2020 16:08 utc | 82

Like Biden, he is past "best use before" date. 78 year old candidate who is increasingly incoherent at 74, hm. It is high time for him to entertain grandchildren with long stories that do not go anywhere. "When I was a life guard at a swimming pool..." (Biden is telling such stories already, there should be a printed illustrated collection of his swimming pool stories. I can see Reviews: ***** Any time I read it in the evening to my hyperactive daughter, she is asleep in one minute flat! A most for every mother.)

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 7 2020 16:52 utc | 106


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H10wZ4SszM

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 7 2020 16:53 utc | 107

correction: a mUst for every mother

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 7 2020 16:53 utc | 108

Sitting at outdoor cafe.Bizarrely warm for November. The news just came through. General jubilation here. Social distancing just went out window. Masks too. Hugs. My gosh they just brought out the American flags. And general discussion of retribution. This mob wants blood.

Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 7 2020 16:55 utc | 109

P.S. to my previous comment - I voted for neither...Who with a whit of a conscience could? Moi - I am totally against the MIC-Pentagonal and against our never ending slaughter, warring, destruction of other peoples, cultures, societies, countries, our never-ending (apparently) efforts at overthrowing this or that government around the world - the ones that do not bend the knee, do as we say (but not do).

So called "lesser evil" voting means: Rinse, repeat, Rinse, repeat. Nothing changes. There is and will be NO peace in the world; the MIC-Pentagonal will continue to be the world's single greatest polluter; the peoples of the world will not be allowed to live their lives, run their societies as THEY (majority) prefer; and the lower 50% of the US population will continue to sink ever deeper into the mud of poverty, homelessness, despair (all skin hues).

But hey - whether Blues or Reds and Bourgeois, oodles of boodle...

Posted by: Anne | Nov 7 2020 16:58 utc | 110

@ JR 62
Some readers don't recognize that wars start with assassinations, ship highjacking, etc.
. . .They didn't.
So welcome to the 'shoulda, woulda, mighta, coulda' school of situation analysis.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 7 2020 16:59 utc | 111

Joe Biden embarks on the 46th Presidency already with a two-fold legacy:

1. He defeated the most corrupt, worst President in American history.

2. He becomes President with the highest number of votes in American history.


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https://youtu.be/Dkq7WZTzkLQ

Delusional Scrooge, I mean Trump's head is expl🤯ding! His victory mirage is over...PRICELESS!

Posted by: Circe | Nov 7 2020 17:01 utc | 112

what he wrote over the distance of decades online vs offline. You feel it should/would interest anyone but me?

At what point do you lie, and for what reasons?

Posted by: vig | Nov 7 2020 16:34 utc | 98

*******
Ok, other then missing the closing the italics tag, I would like to clarify, the "he" mentioned is not b or Bernard.

And now I am gone

Posted by: vig | Nov 7 2020 17:01 utc | 113

Great day for neocons today:

Biden Calls Russia 'Biggest Threat' to America
https://www.novinite.com/articles/206295/Biden+Calls+Russia+%27Biggest+Threat%27+to+America

Russia, Middle east, Korea, Africa just got nervous for obvious reasons..

Posted by: Zanon | Nov 7 2020 17:07 utc | 114

@ Mike 94
As the article points out imperial militarism is definitely going to increase. At some point Russia or China will have to stand up to it and fight back. That will be the apocalypse moment. Either the Empire backs down and peace reigns or we all go up in a nuclear furnace. I don't see any other scenario.
There is cause for hope.
>The US has taken a serious hit on its "global war on terror" AKA regime change strategy, with some thanks to Iran and Russia (which makes them enemies).
>The US is now focusing on Russia and China, which has led to those two countries cooperating against the US. They hold a strong geographical and military advantage over the US.
>National power is more than military and includes domestic unity and strength, now lacking in the US, as well as the country's treatment of other countries as equals, also lacking.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 7 2020 17:08 utc | 115

Don Bacon @Nov7 16:59 @111

So welcome to the 'shoulda, woulda, mighta, coulda' school of situation analysis.

Welcome to the delusional thinking of political partisans where serious concerns about those who break international laws, engage in acts of war, kill via sanctions, destabilize via color revolutions, etc. can be laughed off as sour grapes.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 7 2020 17:11 utc | 116

Circe
Why did you vote for Biden and Harris, do you support their foreign policy along with the neocons? Along with the billionare CEOs that gave Biden hundreds of millions of dollars,
for example pro-israel Haim Saban

That same night, Joseph R. Biden Jr. beamed into a more intimate affair of fewer than two dozen people: a $500,000-per-ticket fund-raiser hosted by the billionaire financier Haim Saban. It raised even more: $4.5 million.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/us/politics/joe-biden-donors.html

Or quite a new other corrupt elite persons.

While Mr. Biden’s campaign has trumpeted the small donations flooding in at record rates, the elite world of billionaires and multimillionaires has remained a critical cog in the Biden money machine.

Why did you support this?

Posted by: Zanon | Nov 7 2020 17:15 utc | 117

A possible tune for the retiring office holders. The lyrics start like that "With many laments, many tears, Saints were descending from Heaven, as they were, in that Heaven, in the Heaven were not needed." But as the video shows, the Saints tried to make the best of it.

[Many years ago, Catholic Church purged many saints from the official list like Hercules Christopheros, as the documentation of their biography was lacking]

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 7 2020 17:18 utc | 118

Another banned You tube video shows vote flipping live on CNN where the Republican candidate actually lost votes and the Democrat gained the same amount of votes the Republican lost live on their feed. I am non partisan and have been for quite a while. I find this very interesting...

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/the-future-with-many-doors-open/

Posted by: circumspect | Nov 7 2020 17:19 utc | 119

Now we have Dominion election machines flipping votes from Trump to Biden, it's all such a joke, and I tired one at that, I'm not brave enough to call this one way or another, the only thing I can forecast is a world shortage of popcorn.

Posted by: TJ | Nov 7 2020 17:26 utc | 120

Shit,
Pass the weed,
Who am I kidding?

Posted by: Josh | Nov 7 2020 17:28 utc | 121

@92


"Let us wish all the good luck we can for Donald Trump to prevail in the state courts and in the US Supreme Court, because we will otherwise most likely become a communist country."

You mean a fascist country unless you believe the elite are stealing everything not nailed to the floor or welded to the wall in order to split it all up with us later.

Can we stop with the RNC talking points now please ?

I also find it odd that anyone would expect justice from the (not so)supreme court that has been filled with Trump appointee's that were fast tracked by the Dems.

Good luck with that one !

Posted by: dave | Nov 7 2020 17:31 utc | 122

@94 Mike from Jersey.

I agree. However I am also confident that Russia, China, Iran and others are well aware of the U.S., U.K., and certain other ME countries ethos and stratergies and are preparing as best as they can for any war. Not to got ot war but to stop an escalation of them.

If a Nuclear exchange does happen the latest scientific modelling suggests a 9 year Nuclear winter. All those Billionaires will starve to death in their bunkers. I wonder how many will resort to cannabalism in desperation?

Posted by: Beibdnn | Nov 7 2020 17:32 utc | 123

Oh for fucks sake b. The guy you thought was going to win lost. Get over it. Maybe you just don't understand the United States as well as you think you do. Record turnout voted the idiot out. Biden will also be a nightmare, but people mostly weren't voting for him. They were voting against the most unqualified and incompetent president this country has ever had.

Posted by: occasional anonymous | Nov 7 2020 17:36 utc | 124

"While Trump's domestic policies have been as much to the favor of the very rich as those of his predecessors..."

I have to disagree. Protectionism was Mr Trump's domestic policy. Renegotiating NAFTA, imposing tariffs on imports, limiting cheap imported labor, both legal and illegal.

And that, I believe, is the main cause of the convulsions experienced by the US establishment.
That is also the reason why he is so popular among the American working class.

Posted by: Mao Cheng Ji | Nov 7 2020 17:39 utc | 125

Helen | Nov 7 2020 12:35 utc | 1:

Pitch forks. A time tested but bloody method.

Posted by: Ian2 | Nov 7 2020 17:39 utc | 126

Someone here does not understand what the Electoral College is.

Posted by: Ian2 | Nov 7 2020 17:42 utc | 127

Maggie, #2:

There's no evidence that a Trump win is being stolen in 2020.

Now, there's solid evidence that Michigan and Florida were stolen for Trump in 2016--not by Russia but by state Republican parties.


Biden was a terribly weak candidate, whom the left detested, had Trump done anything for the average citizenry over the last 3.5 years, or just over the last 7 months, he'd have won handily. He made the choice to ignore the coronavirus, and he made the choice to simply make the already rich richer.

Posted by: Jay | Nov 7 2020 17:44 utc | 128

I’ve been shot and shot at. Saw the truck that hit me, saw it coming. Held in solitary in what was sort of a coffin underneath some floorboards. And was never afraid. I am afraid now. Afraid of my neighbors.

Any even imagining travel from a blue area to a red area or vice versa should wait a while. I feel like retiring to deep country and staying there, just am unavoidably a city person and can’t imagine being welcomed in red state America.

To any hyperventilating about the wars and dirty tricks Trump is staging in next ten weeks: Please. He is the lamest of ducks. One of his many problems was he came to Washington without a team. No one ever paid much mind to his orders. No one is going to do a thing for him now. He is completely emasculated. Giuliani and Ivanka will be abandoning him soon.

Posted by: oldhippie | Nov 7 2020 17:45 utc | 129

thanks b... i appreciate the overview, but watching a train headed to hell ain't pretty... thanks to those who comment here as well.. i didn't read them all, but a lot of them..

the greatest threat to america is america itself... it used to be this way for the rest of the world, but now america has included itself in the equation.. kinda scary when you think of how botched the cia are at this point... it is natural to feel anxious given what is happening and continues to happen with the usa and world more broadly.. time to go for a walk to put my mind in a different frame of reference..

Posted by: james | Nov 7 2020 17:51 utc | 130

Lots of kooky posts today, like Biden ushering in an era of communism ?! LOFL.

And Trump being “the most corrupt and worst president in history” ? That would be a heck of a contest.

It would be interesting if we had a full and truthful file on each president, with all their crimes, corruption, and actions that were bad for the population. It would probably take one of those chinese quantum computers to decide on the winner !

Posted by: Featherless | Nov 7 2020 17:51 utc | 131

Frank, #13:

No, the laptop doesn’t contain evidence of Joe Biden committing crimes, and the evidence of Hunter Biden criminal activity on the laptop is in regards to illegal drug use.

There’s evidence of Hunter Biden corrupting profiting from dad being VP, but that’s not illegal and it’s similar to the children of DJT over the last 4 years. Irony.

Posted by: Jay | Nov 7 2020 17:52 utc | 132

@ Jay 128

“Maggie’s” statement is sufficiently generic (as well as stupid) that I suspect it’s a bot.

Oh wait...I can check my presumption...Tada!
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22This+is+the+most+important+US+election+in+history+and+the+Communist+Deep+State+is+trying+to+steal+it.%22&t=ipad&ia=web#

Posted by: oglalla | Nov 7 2020 17:52 utc | 133

There is an assumption that a large part of foreign policy is determined by the president. If so, we would have expected Obama to have been the most peaceful president but it turned out differently. The underlying MIC has not changed nor has its aims whichever president is in charge. Is it also not the case that there has been a change in heart even within the Obama administration and even between Bush and Obama, when it became clear that further wars with massive invasions are no longer acceptable, and in fact lead to an unending quagmire. Even Obama, who incidentally was pushed on Libya by Cameron and Sarkozy, only sanctioned an air war, and Suria, which started by Obama was refined into a proxy war. So this gradual refinement of war is what has happened and I do not think that the lack of a new war by Trump is very significant, the methods have been refined. He declared a war of sanctions on Iraq and Syria, and we must count Yemen also as a war started by Trunp or at least continued by him.
There was no third choice and therefore we either had to face another term of a narcissisistic and unpredictable president, or a mainstream corrupt one. Foreign policy will not change and has never changed by a new president.

Posted by: Orage | Nov 7 2020 17:53 utc | 134

A Harris (Biden) administration is unlikely to have the funds needed to fight the pandemic and its disastrous economic consequences.

No, Harris and Biden are unlikely to release the monies, which are there. They, like Trump and McConnell, want to keep people desperate.


And by citing that NY Times concern trolling of mailed ballots from 2012, you further degrade your credibility, Bernard. That NYT article is obviously conflating lost and uncounted ballots, real occurrences with mail in voting, with fraud. But the NY Times reporter (now the NYT’s Supreme Court reporter) can’t actually cite any widespread fraud in mail in balloting.

Then of course, you’re more than implying that the votes represented by mail in ballots could only possibly be bought by those trying to help Biden; being polite that’s astounding ignorance.

Posted by: Jay | Nov 7 2020 17:53 utc | 135

Trumpism will die out. GOP will pick establishment candidates as Liz Cheney ou Paul Ryan for 2024. Trump isn't an isolated phenomenon in US politics .. He is a remanicent of George Wallace or even Andre Jackson in 19th century..Halllow populism for sake of distraction

Posted by: Nick | Nov 7 2020 17:54 utc | 136

Thank you, Don Bacon @ 86. I will look for Ralph Nader's book. My vote for him is the one of which I am most proud. I think I got that one right.

Posted by: juliania | Nov 7 2020 17:55 utc | 137

Americans are surprised to see Hamlet and Claudius having a smoke together at intermission, some blogger once said. another also now defunct blogger once pointed out the ratchet effect of the donkeys: the bicycle goes in one direction, no matter how much empty backpedaling Pelosi and co do.

try telling Wall St that Trump is some kind of enemy of the deep state. Chamber of Commerce here in the Pacific NW loves loves loves his policies. try telling Belarus, Syria and every country south of the US border that Trump has a "different foreign policy." Israel? are troops being drawn down from Russia's borders? has the 5 eyes relationship changed? Is the US attempting, successfully, to install anti-Russian and anti-Chinese fascist zealots in every "democratic" gov't in the world that it can, as I type? is it the Trump admin stirring the pot in HK, or someone else doing that?

the standard relative to the Middle East is that in 4 years the US itself did not directly start a war? um...was it for a lack of trying? credit goes for only continuing, not expanding, global genocidal and ecocidal policies (it's being imported, that's why. foreign policy is now domestic policy). low bar indeed.

would Trump recognize a map if he saw one, much less even have heard of Azerbaijan? Real President Pompeo sticks some headlines in Trump's face in the a.m., a select one with a Trump hotel logo on it, and how Trump emotes about that issue becomes "policy" for the day. People forget that one major difference b/n Hitler and Trump is that Hitler could actually read and write. (see what an education can do for you, kids?)

the enemy of the state is its youth, the last bit of wildness left in the US, ready for the gmo roundup. on this Trump, Biden, Schumer, Pelosi, McConnell, Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg, etc., etc. all these decrepit bastards begging for the much-deserved guillotine, they all agree: Fuck Kids. Biden can't be any clearer on that subject.

where's that politician whose policy on the 1st day in office is to shoot all US nukes into space? shoot 'em at the sun or moon (save gas, nuke the moon) cuz light is so commie or whatever. if that's not the 1st item on the agenda, they are a fraud, period. end of story.

but it is disappointing not to be able to see 1st hand how quickly another moribund pos POTUS B Sanders would renege on everything he ever said ever. to watch the "socialist" start WW3 precisely so that he avoid inacting his own call for universal masks (why stop at masks, you fraud?) now that would have been some serious fun. except, you know, we are all in it together and the enraged disappointment of fools is dangerous.

Posted by: jason | Nov 7 2020 18:05 utc | 138

Isn't it interesting how Twitter and Facebook reserves the right 'fact check' every post you make, even the President is censored by these know-it-alls, but at the same time it is impossible to fact check votes in the US presidential election?

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 7 2020 18:07 utc | 139

Mao Cheng Ji, 126:

Obama deported far more undocumented labors than Trump.

And Trump's NAFTA is worse for everyone in Mexico, Canada, and the USA, except corporations and the very wealthy.

Posted by: Jay | Nov 7 2020 18:17 utc | 140

Norwegian, 140:

What do you mean votes can't be checked? There can be recounts of close states.

Furthermore, it's team Trump, and his fanbase, that didn't want votes checked in Michigan in 2016.

Let's see, 70,000 lost or uncounted votes, 40,000 of which came from Detroit: Trump lost in 2016 and knew it in later November 2016.

Posted by: Jay | Nov 7 2020 18:20 utc | 141

My ragged torn country saved by Covid/19. Trump has a place in history as America's would be tyrant.

Posted by: Maureen O | Nov 7 2020 18:25 utc | 142

Wagon Rolling into Detroit Vote Counting Center in Early Morning fwiw..

Posted by: james | Nov 7 2020 18:26 utc | 143

RSH's warning that Trump could still start a war should be taken very seriously. Trump has vowed that he will never allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon. Will he leave office without ENSURING that they cannot?
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 7 2020 15:08 utc | 56

WT (I can’t event through the F in there, since children are reading this blog) Jackrabbit?
Became another RSH acolyte, did you? The mendacious one’s been warning of such war for over a decade.

Please answer the following questions:
1. On what pretense/ground would he start such a war.
2. Where is the build up to start such a war. Iraq build up took 9 month. Will Iran allow such a build up?
3. Why did he hold back previously, when he had the perfect reason/excuse ( after abqaiqe and Khorais. after the downing of the drone. after the assassination of the General’s response — a state to state rocket attack.)?

Predicting a war with Iran has become a tick and needs scratching. Huh?
You’ve been warned previously. You post here often. Clean it up please.

As per my previous comments, here, the empire committed suicide — over little Iran — on January 8th this year.
Here, The Saker explains it for you.http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/55782.htm

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 7 2020 18:28 utc | 144

james, 144:

Meaning what, you know the purpose and contents of said wagon, and you're absolutely certain it was there to somehow mess with Trump's "win" of Michigan.

Got news for you, Trump lost Michigan days ago. And extra Detroit area ballots aren't going to swing it the other way for Trump.

Posted by: Jay | Nov 7 2020 18:38 utc | 145

Anatoly Karlyn analysis https://www.unz.com/akarlin/maga-cope/


Posted by: Lucci | Nov 7 2020 18:40 utc | 146

@ juliania #138
Thank you, Don Bacon @ 86. I will look for Ralph Nader's book. My vote for him is the one of which I am most proud. I think I got that one right.
Yes, I was big on Nader, contributed etc. He had everything right, IMO. But the Dems took major action against him, the Kerry bunch, challenged his entry on ballots, etc. I received a plea from the Nader campaign to ID any pro-bono lawyers I knew in my state that could help him stay on the ballot. . .They wouldn't even allow Ralph in the room during the two-party "debates" etc. . .His book again Crashing the Party

Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 7 2020 18:43 utc | 147

To think that empire under Biden/Harris is going to be more aggressive than empire under Trump was is not understanding reality.

Biden/Harris are not going to attack Venezuela any more than Trump could and did

Biden/Harris are not going to attack Syria any more than Trump could and did

Biden/Harris are not going to attack Iran any more than Trump could and did

Biden/Harris are not going to attack North Korea any more than Trump could and did

Biden/Harris are not going to attack Russia any more than Trump could and did

Biden/Harris are not going to attack China any more than Trump could and did


Are any getting the message yet?

Humanity is in a civilization war because the current powers that run the West are being challenged by those countries that don't agree with the social contract of the West. The social contract of the West has those that own global private finance running the show behind the curtain. China has the reins of finance fully under government control.

And unless you are blind, you can see that China is providing a government by and for the people which was the pipe dream of America........rubber, meet road!

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 7 2020 18:46 utc | 148

The Curse of Toxic Innocence:

Lord of War final scene...

Posted by: blues | Nov 7 2020 18:47 utc | 149

@Sakineh Bagoom 145
I'll answer for the rabbit: "I have a driving, unswerving urge to be wrong."

Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 7 2020 18:48 utc | 150

I won’t even bother going into all the details about fraud here, I simply don’t have the time to do so, and other will do that much better than I could. I will simply say that there is no doubt in my mind that with so many states and counties reporting both tiny differences between the two candidates AND observers reporting how the Dems used what is called the “administrative resource” in Russia (i.e. their control of key states, voting locations and of the USPS), I personally am convinced that Trump and Giuliani are correct in their assessment that massive fraud has taken place.

The Saker

Posted by: Down South | Nov 7 2020 18:48 utc | 151

@Maggie (2)

I'm really not sure if your post was meant to be taken seriously or as parody. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say "parody," but I'm not at all certain of this.

Posted by: Rob | Nov 7 2020 18:49 utc | 152

Russiagate may be over, but Chinagate is just getting started. Or maybe it will just be anything-that-smacks-of-socialism-gate.

Posted by: Rob | Nov 7 2020 18:53 utc | 153

Sakineh Bagoom Nov7 18:28 @145

The Israelis say there will be a war. Trump has done everything he could for Israel so far and vowed that Iran will never be allowed to build or otherwise obtain a nuclear weapon.

We can ignore this or entertain the possibility that Trump/Israel will act on what they say.

And, as RSH has stated, any war is unlikely to be a conventional war for territory that requires a build up.

=
Don Bacon @Nov7 18:48 #151

Oh such insight./sarc

LOL.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 7 2020 18:55 utc | 154

Kamala me kamela

me Kamela Kamala

más no Kamelo a Kamala

por Kamelar a la Mala.


Bocata de calamares.

Posted by: Paco | Nov 7 2020 19:08 utc | 155

Why the continual obscuring of the original source for the Steele oppo. Seems a little dishonest to me.

Posted by: Idland | Nov 7 2020 19:20 utc | 156

"Regime Change" is truly what happened. Donald Trump is extremely naive and clumsy. Despite being a crook himself he actually believes that the so-called "Deep-State" would stand by and let him serve a second term. Perhaps he thinks if he's only nice to Israel, the only country he serves for four years in office, that everything would be OK. I'm sure the deal he would be frantically planning to make is to ensure that he's not prosecuted for any wong-doing while in office. Despite everything I think he does the world a service by preventing the lunatic, Hillary Clinton, from becoming a President. Joe Biden would not dare Russia and put the world on the path of Nuclear annihilation, but Hillary would. My only fear is that Biden is old, weak and confused. All the warmongers who supported his candidacy would have a say in his administration. And with Hillary's protege as the VP, it has become a scary time once again.

Posted by: Steve | Nov 7 2020 19:21 utc | 157

JR,

Hiding behind Israel now?

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 7 2020 19:24 utc | 158

Re: Posted by: Et Tu | Nov 7 2020 16:17 utc | 87

"Contradiction" by definition means that only one statement can be true. The truth of one negates the truth of the other.

Paradox: 'a seemingly absurd or contradictory statement or proposition which when investigated may prove to be well founded or true.'"

Thank you for the clarification on the difference between the two concepts. But I'm still a bit cloudy on some of the finer features of definitions. So please allow me to give an example.

Say I try to return a parrot I purchased to the store where I bought it because when I got it home I noticed that it was dead.

Despite this obvious fact the store owner maintains that the parrot is still alive and that I am merely misperceiving things. In fact, he says; "Dead parrot? Why there's nothing wrong with that parrot whatsoever!"

I then reiterate my claim that; "Are you kidding? This bloody parrot is dead as a doornail! It's expired, Kicked the bucket. Deceased. Popped its last balloon. Asleep with kings and popes, Gone over the River Styx, met its maker ... etc."

We would thus be in a state of contradiction, I assume, Right?

But then, say, I left the store with no refund nor replacement parrot, mumbling all manner of obscenities, but then happened to drop the house of a physicist friend of mine, one Dr. E.S.. He takes the dead parrot, drops it into a special experimental box he has on the drawing room table. He then goes into some long physics Spiel about all manner of things I don't understand in the least, and then finally concludes by saying; "And therefore the parrot is now both dead and alive at the same time, and will only assume one or the other condition when we open the box to check on its status."

So that would be an example of a "paradox," right? Since the parrot is now actually both dead and alive simultaneously. At least until we open the box, peer inside and, by collapsing something mysterious called "the wave function" render the statements "the parrot is alive" and "the parrot is dead" contradictory once again.

But does this really solve the matter? After all, if one goes only one door down the hall on the left one goes into an office named "argument," and if one goes three doors down, one encounters the "Department of Aporias." Then too on the other side of the hall we have the offices of "Fallacies," "Dilemmas," "Antinomies," "Advanced General Speciousness," "Casuistry," "Eristic," "Hyperbole," "Sophistry," "Non-Dualist Ontology," and "Equivocation" among many others. So to prove to the contumacious store owner that it really is a classic case of "contradiction" and his new claim is that "perhaps the parrot is both dead, as you see him, and yet still alive as I perceive him, you know it's like a big paradox." I then tell him that he is just pigheadedly defending an already soundly falsified merely "contradictory" claim when he asserts the parrot is still alive, that he is just as kooku-bonkers as the deranged Dr. E.S., and hence he should either give me a full refund of my original payment at once, or provide me with a new and living parrot of equal value.

But would such an argument on my part be both valid and sound as I over heard the Argument guy talking about them when I was waiting outside in the hall trying to get into the "Office of Dilemma," which struck me as most relevant to this problem of refuting the particular faux-paradox that was preventing the resolution of my dispute? Or would I also need first to seek the advice of at least the Antinomies lady, and the young Research Assistant filling in at the Department of Apoiria" to make sure that my argument was truly irrefragable?

It all seems so gratuitously tedious! I mean any damn fool can see that the parrot is in a clear state of rigor mortis! So why is it so hard to get my bloody three quid back?

Please advise.

Posted by: William Fusfield | Nov 7 2020 19:33 utc | 159

@ Steve 158
My only fear is that Biden is old, weak and confused
Joe "I am a gaffe machine" Biden has always been that way. Here's some past blunders.
But we can trust him./s
“I am a Zionist. You don’t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist,” current Democratic Presidential candidate Joe Biden, said in April 2007, soon before he was chosen to be Barack Obama’s running mate in the 2008 elections.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 7 2020 19:37 utc | 160


You have to ask yourself why when rigging the presidential election the Democrats opted not to also rig it for their Senate candidates too. There were expected to take the Senate by only gained one seat. They were favored to win by comfortable margins in several battle ground states that they lost. Why let that happen when you are in control of the results? Why didn't they help their unfortunate House candidates? Why did they limit the scope of the rigging and how did they manage to win by such small margins? How did they pull of the miracle in Georgia, a state where the Republicans have so much control? Their rigging team should certainly be proud of their over all result but questions remain.

Posted by: David | Nov 7 2020 19:39 utc | 161

For those of you wondering about Biden (who don't already know what kind of swine he is) listening to Scott Ritter's (there are no more WMD's in IRAQ, you dumb$#!^s) contempt of him is illuminating. Watch from about 30 minute mark to past 1 hr 15 minutes.

Posted by: Norogen | Nov 7 2020 19:39 utc | 162

And, as RSH has stated, any war is unlikely to be a conventional war for territory that requires a build up.
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 7 2020 18:55 utc | 155

Please JR, I asked you to clean it up. Not spout more shite. So, the answer is nuking Iran?

Let's go.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Nov 7 2020 19:41 utc | 163

I'm in a minority here, I know, but personally I don't think it's so easy for the War Party to relaunch under Biden. The War on the Middle East is at a stalemate. It's not obvious what one would do to relaunch success. Attack on Iran did not happen because of lack of courage on the part of the US, but because the military advised against it, as too risky, That hasn't changed.

When Obama talked about "pivot to Asia", he was right, in the sense that that policy was pursued under Trump, and is likely to be the focus in the future. But that doesn't mean war. You don't make war on China. It is an economic conflict, which in fact can't succeed. There's a failure to understand what it is that the Chinese are doing. Chinese policy is rooted deep in their history. They are not much interested in the outside world, but manufacturing and exporting their products to the outside barbarians has a long history. Anything else is secondary.

Posted by: Laguerre | Nov 7 2020 19:43 utc | 164

"This is the most important US election in history and the Communist Deep State is trying to steal it."

Sorry, but you are wrong on both counts. Surely the first election of Abe Lincoln makes this current election of Joe Biden pale in significance. And as for the "deep state" allegedly being a "communist" organization that is one I have never heard before. The term "deep state" refers to the non-elected permanent employees and functionaries of the US government, the people who, according to the conceptualization, actually run this country, while using the elected officials as useful idiots to convince the people that they have a "representative" and even "democratic" government, when in reality they are being ruled by a small elite nexus of national security agencies, like the NSA, CIA, DHS, FBI, etc., the military industrial complex, Israeli agents who have penetrated and captured the NSC and State Dept. decision making etc. and assorted head honchos in the media/propaganda industry, as well as the elite circle of billionaires and globalist, neoliberal oligarchs. Now while these people may well be decidedly evil, they are certainly NOT believers in any form of "communism."

Posted by: William Fusfield | Nov 7 2020 19:45 utc | 165

@ Jay | Nov 7 2020 18:38 utc | 146... i am not making any conclusions... i know how just about any bit of info can be suggestive of just about anything... russiagate was a case in point... that was why i put fwiw - at the end of it.. but i sense some hostility for merely sharing the link!

Posted by: james | Nov 7 2020 19:47 utc | 166

Jackrabbit

Re Trump starting Iran war and leaving the aftermath to Harris/Biden. That sounds like a fair exit strategy in exchange for no prosecution for time in office. Israel would be delighted with both parties and happy to continue with its special relationship.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 7 2020 19:53 utc | 167

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 7 2020 19:53 utc | 168

The military would refuse, in my view.

Posted by: Laguerre | Nov 7 2020 19:57 utc | 168

@ Laguerre 165
You don't make war on China. It is an economic conflict
Yes, it mostly is, but China's attack on Taiwan is imminent, since Taipei is feeling independent, and the US might (mistakenly) take part in it. In any case, if China is successful, then the US gets a serious setback in its pivot.
By the way the "pivot to Asia" also includes the transfer of thousands of Marines out of Okinawa, back to Guam and Hawaii which will shift the balance of power in the western Pacific back to the US.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 7 2020 20:04 utc | 169

Posted by: Laguerre | Nov 7 2020 19:43 utc | 165

I think that indeed, relaunching War Party would require a genius under current circumstances, and there is no one in sight with both intelligence and imperial inclinations. Think tanks became places where thinking tanks. In only someone would listened to a brilliant person like myself.

First, we need to correctly diagnose current top danger, which is pernicious corroding influence from undocumented source. It was very natural to suspect Russians, but can a country with that budget properly control efforts of the order of 30-100 thousand dollars? As we know from American experience, no project under a billion has any chance to succeed. OK, a billion rubles is 15 million dollars, but not 0.03 million. Thus the enemy is not only evil, but resource-poor. This points to Tuvalu (population ca. 15k, a Pacific nation that never concurred in UN votes in which Israel needed moral support. Invasion of Tuvalu would solve many problems, I guess one would need to patch a strain with New Zealand, doable, and local resistance can be squashed by reviving cargo cult.

That would place us pretty much in the center of Pacific Ocean and awe the surrounding nations like Kiribati, a veritable domino effect! Tonga would join the imperial fold, etc. Properly paced, glorious wars could last decades, and with a very small cost, even if I say so myself.

Next, with the statue of USA properly bolstered we could start solving problems like Middle East. There is a very simple solution, namely relocate a little bit of Middle East to Far east, but this would require some historical glosses, cartographic illustrations, climatological predictions etc. so I will leave it for later.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 7 2020 20:08 utc | 170

. . .headline: Biden likely to boost ties with Asian allies to keep Beijing in check, observers say
But one fly in the ointment is the expected finalization of the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP), a regional free trade agreement with ASEAN +5, with China ruling the roost, next weekend in Hanoi. I imagine that the US has been doing its best to thwart it, and who knows what they're doing in Washington now, in panic mode.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 7 2020 20:12 utc | 171

“We all know why Joe Biden is rushing to falsely pose as the winner, and why his media allies are trying so hard to help him: they don’t want the truth to be exposed. The simple fact is this election is far from over. Joe Biden has not been certified as the winner of any states, let alone any of the highly contested states headed for mandatory recounts, or states where our campaign has valid and legitimate legal challenges that could determine the ultimate victor. In Pennsylvania, for example, our legal observers were not permitted meaningful access to watch the counting process. Legal votes decide who is president, not the news media.

Donal J Trump

Posted by: Down South | Nov 7 2020 20:13 utc | 172

Circe, be careful what you wish for, you just might get it. I wonder how long before the honeymoon wears off?

Posted by: Shadow | Nov 7 2020 20:15 utc | 173

To think that empire under Biden/Harris is going to be more aggressive than empire under Trump was is not understanding reality.
...
Are any getting the message yet?
...
Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 7 2020 18:46 utc | 149

Might I respectfully suggest that you don't know what you're talking about and haven't been paying attention?
President BYE-DON has already promised to breathe new life into NATO and restore AmeriKKKan Primacy on the world stage. He's also promised not to kowtow to 'dictators'. Ref: DW News, Saturday, November 7, 2020.

President BYE-DON is the bought and paid for ratbag you'll be thanking for MAGITD (Making AmeriKKKa Glow In The Dark) before his term ends.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 7 2020 20:17 utc | 174

@ PB 171
Invasion of Tuvalu, Kiribati, Tonga etc. -- heh
Okay on Tuvalu, it recognizes Taipei, but the others recognize Beijing and may be more of a challenge. Of the sixteen islands in the Pacific's 'Oceania' (including Australia and New Zealand), 12 recognize Beijing and 4 Taipei.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 7 2020 20:22 utc | 175

Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 7 2020 20:04 utc | 170

It is true that China is in a particularly nationalist period. Due or not to the present leader Xi Jinping. I've being following it, because of my student who has studied the Muslim minorities. There's been pressure on the Hui Muslim community to conform to nationalist objectives. And of course we know about what has happened in Xinjiang.

That doesn't mean an assault on Taiwan is imminent. They do feel Taiwan should be part of China, but an outright military assault I find improbable, because of what it would provoke.

Posted by: Laguerre | Nov 7 2020 20:24 utc | 176

it's a train wreck whether the conductor is Trump or Biden - just like there have been massive (or minor) overseas and endless wars, coup d'etats, economic sanctions or IMF interventions, secret troop ops, etc etc for a greater part of America's long and bloody history, and also whether it's the republicans or the democrats nominally in charge of the executive branch and/or the congress

I am very concerned about Biden's .... and the Democrat's decades long animosity and increasing belligerence to any and all nations who seek another way / a multi-polar world / a non-aligned movement or stance / their own way of life ..... however you want to put it.

bernhard makes good points about trump making lovey dovey with north korea, and also not responding militarily when Iran both shot down that $150 million drone and then later when Iran put those missiles right square into two US bases in Iraq in early 'retaliation' for Qasem Soleimani's outrageous and illegal assassination. Obama/Biden had considered killing him as well but nixed the idea out of concern for the 'costs'

I am concerned about the trajectory of all these increasing US antagonisms with other nations, and don't expect Biden/Harris to be any less if not more aggressive and militaristic.

I think that Caitlan deals effectively with this rather half true/half false meme where people somehow extol as virtue that Trump hasn't started any 'new wars anywhere':

https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/08/09/the-persistent-myth-that-trump-opposes-war/

"....Despite the kayfabe pro wrestling drama of Russiagate, Trump has escalated tensions with Moscow more than any US president since the fall of the Berlin Wall. Leading US-Russia relations expert Stephen Cohen has been warning since 2017 that we are now at risk of nuclear annihilation as a result of these escalations at a level we haven’t seen since the height of the last cold war. This administration’s many, many aggressive acts against Russia include the aforementioned arming of Ukraine, amassing an increasing number of troops near Russia’s border, attacking Russian allies Syria and Venezuela, withdrawing from the INF treaty, implementing a Nuclear Posture Review with a much more aggressive stance against Russia, forcing RT and Sputnik to register as foreign agents, reportedly infiltrating Russia’s power grid, throwing out dozens of diplomats, expanding NATO with the addition of Montenegro, assigning Russia hawk Kurt Volker as special representative to Ukraine, and opposing Russian fossil fuel interests in Germany.

This administration has continued to facilitate the Saudi-led slaughter in Yemen and to sell arms to Saudi Arabia. It has expanded the war in Somalia. It has been inflating the already insanely bloated US military budget to enable more worldwide military expansionism. It has greatly increased the number of bombs dropped per day from the previous administration, killing record numbers of civilians, and reduced military accountability for those airstrikes......"

I expect Biden/Harris to continue along much the same trajectory in foreign affairs and for US imperialism be even more direct and aggressive against Russia, China, Iran and Venezuela, to mention but a few nations in the cross hairs.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Nov 7 2020 20:31 utc | 177

@Jay | Nov 7 2020 18:20 utc | 142

What do you mean votes can't be checked? There can be recounts of close states.

Will it happen?

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 7 2020 20:31 utc | 178

Posted by: vk | Nov 7 2020 14:44 utc | 47
" Americans will have to get used to a new era marked by the objective fact the POTUS is not the most powerful man in the world. They will not ever touch Syria again."

I believe syrians themselves would strongly object to this statement. America isn't merely touching Syria, it is squarely sitting on its chest.

Through its occupation of 50 000 km2 of SDF administration and 5000 km2 of "deconfliction area" around al Tanf, the US has dispossessed the syrian nation of access to energy, water, arable land and other vital resources. It also hinders trade with its neighbours. Crippling sanctions and blockade ensure further strangulation of a nation heading into its tenth year of war.

Suggesting America isn't touching Syria is nothing less than revisionism.

Posted by: robin | Nov 7 2020 20:38 utc | 179

@Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 7 2020 20:17 utc | 175

President BYE-DON is the bought and paid for ratbag you'll be thanking for MAGITD (Making AmeriKKKa Glow In The Dark) before his term ends.
On the theme of acronyms, I propose the Muffled And Demented Corpse (MADC) for the supposed Trump successor.

Posted by: Norwegian | Nov 7 2020 20:46 utc | 180

Helen!

The most logical question!

How do you win a rigged game? You can’t, don’t play.

Posted by: Rae | Nov 7 2020 20:49 utc | 181

Posted by: robin | Nov 7 2020 20:38 utc | 180

True that the US occupation of the oil-fields strangles Syria. Tanf, who cares? But US occupation of the Khabur oil-fields hangs by a thread. The local people have revolted. They may not be able to expel the Americans, but that means isolated garrisons, supplied by air. Not a good way to keep the oil for the US as Trump desired.

Posted by: Laguerre | Nov 7 2020 20:59 utc | 182

@165 Laguerre, @171 Piotr Berman

I agree that the world has changed in the 4 years that Trump happened to occupy the White House. It will be harder to go to war than it once was.

Indeed, we are going into an useful period to watch how a Dem administration will do - or not do - things differently. Did Trump "not start any new wars" because he was Trump, or because the Pentagon couldn't manage it?

Was it Trump who stood the machine down after the Iranians had delivered one tiny slice of lethal damage to the US base - the first sovereign such act - or was it the white-faced and scared generals who advised him? Personally, I think the latter.

Internationally, we will see if the Pentagon's and the CIA's lack of strength in various theaters was a function of the White House or a function of reality. Personally, I believe that whatever is actually attempted in theaters will increasingly fail. Iran gave the very first slap in the face to the US. It may well be the actor to deliver the next one, which may be more like a punch in the mouth. We don't know where or with whom it will happen, but it will happen.

And escalation can proceed by very thin slices, and many of them.

I think the fear of nuclear warfare is itself too sensitive. I think the US military can take a lot more damage and loss of personnel than we realize, without triggering some insane Strangelove scenario. The US military has often been faced down and overmatched, and I expect this to continue under Biden/Harris. The Pentagon is wary of getting into fights, and for the obvious reason that it knows it can't win them.

Time for a change of guard so we can usefully measure what has actually changed in the world, regardless of who sits in the White House.

~~

Domestically in the US, the same useful change of guard will allow more people to see how the Democrats are not going to give them a better place to live than the Republicans did. Through more agony, the people crawl slowly towards their ultimate lesson - that neither party is the answer, that only their own, new and authentic party stands any chance of breaking the cartel of thieves in Washington. Things will get much worse for them before they learn it - but the lesson is already taking hold with some of the people. Escalation proceeds by thin slices.

Posted by: Grieved | Nov 7 2020 21:04 utc | 183

Happy to see the incompetent con man get his fat ass kicked out of the WH, not by the "powers that be", b, but by the American people who can't stand the SOB. Since you are not an American People, b, you may be excused for not understanding this. You're basically an authoritarian anti-democrat who puts on a show of dispassionate rational analysis and progressive liberalism. You might be more comfortable in Belarus. Nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah, hey hey good-bye....

I do hope The Trumpsters do a thorough investigation for vote fraud. The only time to trust US elections is when the electorate is energized and big numbers turn out, as they did in this case. What an investigation will reveal is that Trump did not win 2016 and his votes in 2020 are greatly exaggerated. Republicans have been stealing elections since 2000. The American people don't like Trump, period. The electoral system needs a radical fix. But it is telling the truth in 2020.

And one more point, b, you don't understand money if you think the Dems won't have enough.

Posted by: jadan | Nov 7 2020 21:11 utc | 184

Don Bacon | Nov 7 2020 20:04 utc | 170:

China doesn't have enough assets to successfully invade Taiwan. Besides, there needs to be a huge build up of forces for months which Taipei will notice.

Posted by: Ian2 | Nov 7 2020 21:16 utc | 185

Posted by: Grieved | Nov 7 2020 21:04 utc | 184

It is not exactly lack of strength, but lack of justifiable targets. What would justify death of thousands of soldiers to American public? In the aftermath of 9/11, neocons were theorizing that the public can accept up to 30k fatal casualties, but that neglects the detail that what are the benefits that can be explained to the public? Perhaps the population has large sectors of sheep and mushroom, but even those are not lacking common sense. Thinking about "our dead people" changes focus. And while putative opponents have inferior weapons, it is like the case of Magellan landing in today's Philippines. He lined a squad of soldiers with arquebuses and fell from an arrow. BTW, his Malay servant was the first person who circumnavigated the globe, Magellan was the first captain to cross the Pacific Ocean but he literally fell short of completing the trip around the globe.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 7 2020 21:17 utc | 186

@ Posted by: robin | Nov 7 2020 20:38 utc | 180

But that was not the USA's strategic objective in Syria. It was to remove it from the Russian sphere of influence and dominate the entire Levant region, creating a protectorate centered around Israel that would seal off Russia from warm waters. This objective wasn't reached, therefore the USA lost the war.

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@ Posted by: Laguerre | Nov 7 2020 20:24 utc | 177

Taiwan's situation is very precarious. It is much worse than in the 1950s-1970s, when it could even grasp the possibility of retaking the Mainland (as a façade of the US Navy).

The problem here is that China has built up a situation where it can define the timing and the rules of engagement. It has time on its side (USA declining; Taiwan economy relatively declining; Chinese economy rising). As its economy is better, it can decide the rules of the war: it can, for example, save Taiwan for later while continuing to brain drain and accrue crescent trade surpluses with the rebel province (economic warfare); it can reduce Taiwan to ashes thanks to the new missile technologies (hypersonic missiles). More importantly, China doesn't need an amphibious invasion to subjugate Taiwan: the times of the big power finding their "aquatic Vietnams" to a tiny but tidy island nation/nation across the sea is gone. The D-Day style battles are gone.

So, we have a situation here where China not only can define time and method of war (for obvious reasons it can't define the place, as Taiwan is going nowhere), but also dominates all phases of escalation - from the most peaceful (economic, commercial warfare) to the most violent (nuclear warfare - the USA won't activate MAD because of Taiwan). The game is basically over for the Kaishekists.

Posted by: vk | Nov 7 2020 21:17 utc | 187

@149 psychohistorian

I agree. The world has shown itself more starkly than ever before in the contrast you have been illustrating for some time now. I always thought your picture was too stark, but the world itself has come to match your view.

China, as you say, is the change agent in our consciousness, the Demonstration Effect par excellence. Perhaps the magic of the dragon will indeed be sufficient to give us a global change in civilizational tenets.

Magic. Yes, magic could do it, where before, all else seemed hopeless. Magic, and a vastly pragmatic appreciation of reality. China.

Posted by: Grieved | Nov 7 2020 21:17 utc | 188

Posted by: Don Bacon | Nov 7 2020 20:22 utc | 176

My knowledge is dated. A tiny nation can patch the budget for several years from the foreign aid received as a reward for switching China recognition, and then they do it again.

Micronesians also lack sincere devotion to Israel. Once there was a UN vote that Israel was supported by USA alone. What happened was that the federal budget was in "continuing resolution" state without approval of subsidies for Micronesia, Palau and some other former mandate territory, so, no cash, no vote. This really deserves some stern education. That said, navigation in the Pacific is tricky.

Once I tested free software on a website where you select two ports and voila! it shows you a route. if you pick Japan or Indonesia on one end and Los Angeles on the other end, you see a route through the Pacific. But if you select an island nation, it shows you a route toward Indian Ocean, then Suez Canal, Panama Canal, and then to LA. And if you select "Guam, Funafuti (capital of Tuvalu)" the answer is "no route found". I perceive Tuvalian sabotage, but it could be Kiribati or Tonga for all I know.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 7 2020 21:32 utc | 189

@187 Piotr Berman

I agree with everything you're saying except one point - it really IS lack of strength.

As was mentioned up-thread, the killing power of any adversary is much greater now than before. Weaponry has advanced throughout the "resistance", far more than it has in the US.

It's not just that the US loses, say, 1,000 soldiers and numerous capital assets as well, it's that in direct fighting on land, sea and air, the US is simply outfought, such that its losses are far greater than the other side's - in every encounter. Every encounter is a net loss, a defeat.

So it's not just the loss of military force as a result of a fight, but a clear picture of attrition, where the opponent can destroy the US force without being completely destroyed. This is the punch in the mouth - the sheer battle victory of the opponent that the US cannot counter. Simply being outfought by superior fighters with superior tactics and weapons.

Having that known to the US populace might result in some redneck anger, but nothing can be done when your enemy is kicking the shit out of you at every turn.

And the terror of the nuclear knee-jerk? Well, maybe it's time to go into that scenario, out loud with eyes wide open and before the general public of the US, with the generals explaining how they will lose even that fight - and they will.

Time for the US to realize that these defeats are only slices of escalation. Long way to go before full-on madness. Plenty of room to be defeated. Plenty of time to start getting used to that defeat.

That's what I see. Declines go down, not up.

Posted by: Grieved | Nov 7 2020 21:32 utc | 190

None of this past five years could have unfolded as it did without the active plotting and complicity of the US media. They are the greater enemy.

Posted by: Paul | Nov 7 2020 21:37 utc | 191

how disappointing, to present Trump The asshole as somebody who has fought against the forces of darkness, while in the Real Reality Trump The Asshole has been collaborating with the Forces of Darkness as much as he can.

Oh well one more blog I won't be visiting much. How quickly they show their real colors.
But this is a great thing, it will finally force Russia (and Putin if he isn't battling Parkinson) to finally begin to really fight against USA.

See yah around, phony!

Posted by: Hoyeru | Nov 7 2020 21:38 utc | 192

Laguerre #169

To my suggestion at #168 that Trump could start a military action against Iran, you say "the military would refuse, in my view".

False flag evil has been a constant from the illegal occupier of Palestine throughout its occupation history. Why would they suddenly change now and indeed there are precedents for these brigands to attack US warships whenever they please. No military would be able to decline to respond if that should happen again.

Wars are usually mounted when prime military targets are destroyed.

I don't share your faith in the US military and its scabrous allies in the middle east.

Beware the false flag.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 7 2020 21:55 utc | 193

james, 167:

Your post is you saying is there.

Posted by: Jay | Nov 7 2020 22:12 utc | 194

@ Laguerre 183

If you consider the sanctions that specifically target the energy sector and recall the seizure of the Syria bound iranian tanker in Gibraltar and perhaps remember the occasional reports of fuel barges prevented from crossing the Euphrates river, it should be obvious that the empire's intention is to deny access to energy.

Laying a personal claim to the oil like the president did is, I believe, simple packaging to make the product more palatable to the home consumer. In essence, pushing the narrative of shameless thievery to hide an even more cruel reality. Now what does that say?

Al Tanf holds obvious strategic value as it covers a tripoint border and cuts the Damascus - Baghdad motorway. Within this large territory, armed groups are left undisturbed to train and prepare for mischief. The kind of mischief that makes it very difficult for a country to rebuild itself.

I believe this is an area where the US military has demonstrated a couple of times the reach of its fancy artillery. That knowledge alone - that much of one's country is within reach of uncle sam's crazy goons, would make anybody quite anxious.

Posted by: robin | Nov 7 2020 22:13 utc | 195

Norwegian, 179:

Why not if, but only if individual states are close.

I see you completely ignored my point about Trump losing Michigan 2016.

Posted by: Jay | Nov 7 2020 22:15 utc | 196

michaelj72 # 178

bernhard makes good points about trump making lovey dovey with north korea, and also not responding militarily when Iran both shot down that $150 million drone and then later when Iran put those missiles right square into two US bases in Iraq in early 'retaliation' for Qasem Soleimani's outrageous and illegal assassination. Obama/Biden had considered killing him as well but nixed the idea out of concern for the 'costs'

I am concerned about the trajectory of all these increasing US antagonisms with other nations, and don't expect Biden/Harris to be any less if not more aggressive and militaristic.

I expect Biden/Harris to continue along much the same trajectory in foreign affairs and for US imperialism be even more direct and aggressive against Russia, China, Iran and Venezuela, to mention but a few nations in the cross hairs.

I agree with many of your sentiments above and would add that the red flag of revenge still flies above the Jamkaram Mosque in Qom. Recent reports of leading Iranian military and religious leaders confirm that the attack on the Iraq base occupied by USAi forces was a response to the vehicles that were destroyed in the initial US attack.

Revenge for the murder of General Qassem Suleimani is yet to be seen. So right now the entire middle East will be on edge as they are fully aware of the idiocy/mendacity of the USAi when it comes to 'diplomacy'.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 7 2020 22:17 utc | 197

oglalla, 134:


Bot not exactly, but Maggie is cutting and pasting fact free rightist talking points.

And so too, to a more limited extent, is Bernard in this essay and we know he's not a bot.

Posted by: Jay | Nov 7 2020 22:18 utc | 198

Sakineh Bagoom @Nov7 19:24 #159

Hiding behind Israel now?

Not at all.

I'm just a traditional anti-war peacenik. As such, I'm not ready to accept the happy talk of Trump as peace-loving and war with Iran as impossible/inconceivable.

With that said, I think USA is more interested in smacking-down China than a war with Iran. But it's difficult to ignore how Trump has done everything possible for Israel, even going against long-standing UN Resolutions and long-standing US policy to do so.

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Sakineh Bagoom @Nov7 19:41 #164

So, the answer is nuking Iran?

I don't think so. You and RSH have already been through conventional warfare scenarios that are much more likely than the simplistic "nuke Iran".

The assassination of Gen. Soleimani was tit-for-tat. Trump still threatens Iran and Iran says that Soleimani has yet to be avenged. Tensions are still high.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 7 2020 22:25 utc | 199

Piotr Berman #171

There is a very simple solution, namely relocate a little bit of Middle East to Far east, but this would require some historical glosses, cartographic illustrations, climatological predictions etc. so I will leave it for later.

Thank you - that is superb:) I fear that wherever you place that 'little bit of the Middle East' we would end up with unforeseen consequences to regret.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 7 2020 22:26 utc | 200

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