Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
October 8, 2020
Why U.S. Elections Do Not Change Its Foreign Policies

John Kiriakou, who blew the whistle about CIA torture under the Bush regime, warns of the foreign policy a Joe Biden administration would pursue:

Literally the last thing I would do is to urge anybody to vote for Donald Trump. The president has been a disaster in every sense of the word and in both foreign and domestic policy. The country can’t take four more years of a Trump presidency. But Biden is no panacea. He’s a center-right placeholder. [..]

If you think things will change in foreign policy under a President Biden, think again. It’ll be the same old expansionist, militarist policy that we had under Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. So go into the voting booth with your eyes open.

In my view Biden is more right than center. Even his campaign slogan is shared with the British conservatives.


A Joe Biden administration would extend the hostile policies towards Russia and China and would continue to push for regime change in Venezuela, Syria, Iran and Belarus.  This even as the organ of U.S. foreign policy orthodoxy, Foreign Affairs, states that U.S. induced regime changes never achieve their aims:

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice’s repeated assertion around the time of the Iraq war that Washington’s pursuit of “stability at the expense of democracy” in the Middle East had produced neither was broadly true. But it turned out to have a corollary—that pursuing democracy at the expense of stability might also produce neither, but at even higher cost.

Regime change will always tempt Washington. [..] The long, diverse, and tragic history of U.S.-backed regime change in the Middle East, however, suggests that such temptations—like most quick fixes that come along in life and politics—should be resisted. The next time U.S. leaders propose intervening in the region to overthrow a hostile regime, it can safely be assumed that such an enterprise will be less successful, more costly, and more replete with unintended consequences than proponents realize or admit. So far, at least, it has never been the other way around.

U.S. foreign policy does not change from presidency to presidency. In a recent interview President Bashar al-Assad of Syria explained why that is the case:

Question 9: You definitely follow the presidential campaign in the United States. And do you hope that the new US President, regardless of the name of the winner, will review sanctions policies towards Syria?

President Assad: We don’t usually expect presidents in the American elections, we only expect CEOs; because you have a board, this board is made of the lobbies and the big corporates like banks and armaments and oil, etc. So, what you have is a CEO, and this CEO doesn’t have the right or the authority to review; he has to implement. And that’s what happened to Trump when he became president after the elections –

Journalist: He used to be CEO for many years before.

President Assad: Exactly! And he is a CEO anyway. He wanted to follow or pursue his own policy, and he was about to pay the price – you remember the impeachment issue. He had to swallow every word he said before the elections. So, that’s why I said you don’t expect a president, you only expect a CEO. If you want to talk about changing the policy, you have one board – the same board will not change its policy. The CEO will change but the board is still the same, so don’t expect anything.

Question 10: Who are this board? Who are these people?

President Assad: As I said, this board is made up of the lobbies, so they implement whatever they want, and they control the Congress and the others, and the media, etc. So, there’s an alliance between those different self-vested interest corporations in the US.

Caitlin Johnstone would likely agree with that view. She argues that the two political camps in the U.S. hardly differ:

When you look at US politics, it appears as though there are two mainstream political factions that very strongly disagree with one another. “Divided” is a word that comes up a lot. “Polarized” is another.

But beneath all the hurled insults and heated debates, these two factions are actually furiously agreeing with one another. They’re agreeing the entire time.

They agree that the US government should remain the center of a globe-spanning empire; they just angrily quibble over a few of the details of how that empire should be run [..].

On all issues that most severely affect real people on mass scale, these two political factions are in emphatic agreement. They just pour a whole lot of sound and fury into the tiny one percent of the spectrum wherein they have some disagreement.

They do not allow for any mainstream discussion of if the oligarchic empire should continue to exist; all their issues, arguments and histrionics revolve around how it should exist.

This is what they are designed to do.

[P]olitics isn’t real in America. It’s a show. A two-handed sock puppet show to distract the audience while pickpockets rob them blind.

If you want to see things clearly, ignore the fake drama of the sock puppet show altogether and focus on advancing the real debate: that the US-centralized oligarchic empire is corrupt beyond redemption and should be completely dismantled.

I find it hard to disagree with these views.

Comments

If Biden wins, how much will the internal disintegration of the American state change foreign policy. Yesterday (Thursday), insurgents (BLM/AntiFa) were able to paralyze traffic in several Washington state cities especially along highway I-5 which runs north and south from Canada down to Mexico. Local security forces (the police) did not (or could not on orders) remove them. The insurgents numbered no more than 20-30. This is like watching the war against Syria launched by ISIS/ and Al Queda. I watched reports go back and forth on who controlled critical highways. America will start looking like Syria as the violence levels seem to be escalating.
I can only imagine that Biden and the MIC will divert from the collapse of American society by starting a war. The media, democrats, and growing gop establishment want that war with Russia.

Posted by: Erelis | Oct 9 2020 13:34 utc | 101

The clarion call of Zionism to rally the herd is that if you don’t vote for Trump there will be war with Russia– that is unmitigated bullshit!
****************
I hate to say it, Jackrabbit, but you’re delusional too, repeatedly howling at the moon, and essentially re-electing Trump Ziofascism with your don’t vote! strategy. Millions of people already voted!
You cannot destroy the duopoly with Revolution because the majority on the Left can’t stomach it and people will not abandon their right to vote. Undoing the duopoly is a gradual process that starts with spreading awareness of Zionism’s major role in suppressing democracy and electing more and more progressives in primaries who reject Zionism is the only way. The duopoly must be destroyed from within the Democratic Party. No third Party stands a chance and the Republican Party is 100% loyal to Zionism. Zionism is not Israel or Judaism. It is beyond Israel and above religion. Israel and Judaism are excuses to justify Zionism’s supremacy.
Exposing Zionism’s role in government and shaming those who serve Zionism and electing candidates to Congress who don’t serve it is the only way.
The mistake progressives like AOC and Omar make is to push the social/domestic agenda too far to the Left too soon. Instead, they should aim for more realistic economic gains for now with justice and real democracy as the key focus that leads to greater economic justice later, while striking at the Zionist foreign agenda and demonizing it as expansionist (imperial), wasteful and unAmerican. However, progressives must first define Zionism’s role in government. That is a risky task, but it is necessary. Ilhan Omar started doing that, but more AOC’s are needed in Congress to support that goal so it can’t be painted as Muslim subversion.
Trump was sent in to crush simmering anti-Zionist sentiment and insurrection labeling it all as Socialism and pegging it as anti-Semitic and emphasizing how it is intent on destroying America and how therefore fascist control is necessary to shut it down.
As I previously mentioned here, Trump’s first moves were made to empower Zionism further and elevate its profile, because Zionism is at the core of the duopoly and he has strengthened the side most loyal in securing its realm.
Zionists are no longer concerned with Syria as long as Iran is held back from making strides there through Iraq. Trump took care of that issue.
He contained and neutralized that Iranian threat via Iraq killing hundreds of militia there, killing Soleimani, the mastermind of that strategy, and killing the top leader of those militia and other secondary leaders while maintaining a U.S. military fortress in Iraq. Now, Zionists are most concerned with Iran in the ME region, China in the East and and Venezuela to the South and Trump was targeting all 3 in big ways that you all are aware of and I won’t elaborate on. He also undermined the EU because it was headed for cooperation with China’s economic ambitions and more economic ties with Iran through the JCPOA. Trump put a road block on all that. That road block must be removed for peace to evolve.

Trump is fully owned and operated by Zionism. If given a 2nd term he will complete the Iran-China-Venezuela mission and also crush all vestiges that remain of democratic expression in America to fully secure the realm of Zionism for the rest of this Century.
Biden is old, will have 4 years and is only up to a restorative domestic agenda, and restoring foreign relationships and the JCPOA. He won’t help undo the duopoly, but progressive movement is still possible during his term.
However, what Trump accomplishes with fascist control if given another term will be impossible to undo. Trump is a dangerous President in total service and loyalty to Zionism and HE MUST GO.
Trump must be thrown out damn you!
(To people with long links: don’t f*ck up this 2nd page, too! Use the html codes or spare us your link.)

Posted by: Circe | Oct 9 2020 14:18 utc | 102

“…restoring foreign relationships…”
Make Empire Great Again!
Wonderful. Good thing that will fail.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 9 2020 14:33 utc | 103

@ AnneR | Oct 9 2020 13:16 utc | 100
My response to comments such as those you cite from FB is “ethnicity is not an accomplishment, and skin color is just skin deep”, meaning neither is a ground for electing someone.
As for gender, I was going to write that it is just a coincidence. Will I be castigated for not saying that it is a choice? :-). 🙂

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Oct 9 2020 14:59 utc | 104

No, dum-dum, After Covid, Biden will go through the handshake motions and photo-ops with allies, restore the JCPOA, re-engage in climate and environmental agreements, wag his finger at Russia and leave it at that.
Gruff, I think there is ample proof, some of which I provided in bold on this page and in the previous comment, that Trump is the one making THE REALM aka empire great again with his foreign interventions. Dems are not up to the task of tackling Iran and China. That’s why the rulers chose Trump and he’s delivering in a big way.

Posted by: Circe | Oct 9 2020 15:02 utc | 105

I wonder if there was slavery on the Bush plantation in Central America and does he have any statues we could push-over. That at least would be more current.

Posted by: jared | Oct 9 2020 15:02 utc | 106

Posted by: Erelis | Oct 9 2020 13:34 utc | 101
Are you really comparing Islamist headchoppers with a bunch of BLM activists??

Posted by: v | Oct 9 2020 15:29 utc | 107

Circe wrote
Dems are not up to the task of tackling Iran and China. That’s why the rulers chose Trump and he’s delivering in a big way.
_________________________________________
Yes, I think you have that analysis correct.
This is one of the main reasons a Trump victory will be engineered.
Any belligerent act will be far more difficult for Biden to pull off than it will for Trump. To get popular support for a belligerent act by Trump all you need is one fake chlorine gas attack or one fake rocket attack that kills one US contractor. It will take a lot more than that to get the people behind Biden.
The problem oligarchs face is that the left wing arm of the MSM is a lot better tamed than the right wing arm of the MSM. The left wing echo chamber will support trump no matter what when he responds to the most insignificant false flag attacks. To get support for Biden from the right wing echo chamber will require a lot more effort and expense. They’ll need to do something like knock down skyscrapers or sink a aircraft carrier to get the popular support backing Biden.
It will take another 4 years for Trump to get the right wing media as compliant as the left wing media is.

Posted by: jinn | Oct 9 2020 15:43 utc | 108

Global Times editorial holds up the mirror, “US elites no longer seek truth from facts”:
“If the US cannot restore its basic spirit of seeking the truth, then the country is doomed to decline. The US is afraid of facing the facts, and it can only rely on lies to cover up its emerging disadvantages. Such a country cannot carry out effective reforms and will only drift along with its problems. To know shame is akin to courage – this is a well-known truth among Chinese people, and we would like to share it with the US and Western elites.”
Those “leading” and residing within the Outlaw US Empire are living a host of lies on a daily basis that greatly affect those few of us knowing the truth, for the lies are like the Hydra and close to indestructible. Perhaps as the K-shaped “recovery” becomes more visible, the momentum toward forming a Critical Mass will escalate until it finally reaches its acme and blows.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 9 2020 16:17 utc | 109

LuRenJia@78 misstates the facts by characterizing Deng’s policy as keeping China’s head down. Deng engaged in a war of choice to appease the US, by invading Vietnam. On an individual moral level, Deng is one of the most despicable leaders China has had. All the deaths were pointless ( See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War#Chinese_casualties but this is the kind of topic where wikipedia is very unreliable.) It is almost certain that Mao thought the radical decentralization of the economy and repudiation of central planning in the Great Leap Forward really was rejecting great mistakes of the Soviet model. The violence in the Cultural Revolution was often enough initiated by the capitalist roaders and never was just Maoists ambushing people for fun and profit, no matter what Deng/Xi want us to believe.
In the US system, people who actually work in the higher levels of government are still middle management. The “political oligarchy” is not like the president of a major bank or hedge fund, whose pay is in millions enough to promote them to owner status. Thus, lots of resistance in the so-called “political oligarchy” is about managers not liking the new boss who plans to shut down their division. Posting some deep state BS is trumpery, an excuse.
Again, an economic nationalist would re-industrialize the US. But a reindustrialization program is not just magic tariff negotiations (which have consistently failed to deliver the pie in the sky promised.) Trump has actively promoted anti-industrial measures, in favor of pro-finance measures. He was hotelier to the richest more than anything else besides an entertainer.
Entertainers are against Trump by and large because they see him as one of them with repulsive megalomania and nasty mean social attitudes. Bohemia has typically been pretty easy going, one of its charms, after all.
A truly determined assault on Trump by the owners of the country would start by bringing Fox into line by threatening ad revenues. Sinclair stocks would come under attack. Lawsuits by hitherto obscure people would harass Breitbart. The claim there is a relentless assault by the powerful on Trump is purest Trumpery. After years of lying, only after polls are suggesting Trump is going to lose are the networks getting bold enough to hint Trump’s is both dishonest and incompetent. Even now they haven’t the nerve to suppress him the way they did Sanders!
As the US slowly weakens, it cracks the whip over its allies first. They are much easier to bully than actual enemies, much less those who are rising, like China. (No, Russia not so much.) Conscripting Europe into an anti-Russia—and Iran to a degree–is not friendship for Europe on Trump’s/the US’ part!
And yet again, every single proposition that starts from the stable genius winning the Electoral College is a lie. Slavery was once the law too but only scum truly believe that settled the complaints about that.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 9 2020 16:17 utc | 110

Yesterday I noted Russia test fired its Tsirkon hypersonic cruise missile as an adjunct to its diplomacy. As I suspected, the results were made public via this report to Putin by Chief of the General Staff of Russia’s Armed Forces Valery Gerasimov:
“Here is what I have to report. At 7:15 am yesterday, the frigate Admiral Gorshkov deployed in the White Sea, for the first time fired a Tsirkon hypersonic cruise missile at a sea target in the Barents Sea.
“The goal has been achieved. The test firing has been declared successful. The missile destroyed the target in a direct hit.
“The missile covered a distance of 450 kilometres. The maximum altitude of its trajectory was 28 kilometres. The flight lasted 4.5 minutes. The missile reached the hypersonic speed of over Mach 8.
“Following the state tests, the Tsirkon system will be deployed on submarines and surface ships.
“This concludes my report.”
100 Kilometers a minute! All that remains is to test one on an adversarial target in Syria from the Caspian Sea such that it buzzes Outlaw US Empire forces illegally within Syria on its way to its target. Imagine the reaction on the ground: Russian and Syrian forces cheering the awesomely fast overflight while the illegals are thankful they’re not the target, yet marvel just the same.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 9 2020 16:42 utc | 111

@104 Nathan Mulcahy
Thanks for bothering to read and respond!
I quite agree. Neither skin color nor sex (nor any other “diverse” characteristic – if indeed they are such) should be a determinant, certainly not an over-riding determinant, in one’s electoral decision. What the individual has done, what they have demonstrated by their past actions, which after all surely reveal their worldview, should have greater bearing on the voters’ decision.
I was in my early 30s when The Snatcher was leading the Tory Party and in the election in 1979-80 (forget which year exactly), and there is NO way I would have voted for that piece of work, none. Yes she was female and would (was) the first female to become PM – but so bloody what???? You don’t vote for someone simply because they tick some of the “diversity boxes.” At least that’s my perception.
What matters is what they’ve done, what they really stand for, what they will try their utmost to achieve for the ordinary working class/poor bods of ALL skin hues etc. Must be getting too old…

Posted by: AnneR | Oct 9 2020 17:53 utc | 112

@110 steven
You are a capable writer. I enjoy reading your posts.
A couple of points I disagree with, however.
You presume that the EU acts according to the dictates of Washington. What if the same globalist elites occupy both the EU and the U.S. equally?
It seems to me that Trump has been daring the EU to go at it alone with Russia, but time and time again the EU has quickly tried to placate the U.S. under Trump.
Trump is a businessman. He is trying to secure the best deal for Americans. I believe he finds the Europeans detestable imo for their globalist leanings. But he’ll take their money.

Re: Fox News. If you remember in 2016, there were a ton of Republicans who were never Trumpers, including many featured on Fox News. However, it quickly became apparent to them that their indeed was genuine, popular interest in Trump as a candidate, no thanks to Fox at the outset.
So Fox changed its tune to fit the audience. But that doesn’t mean the network is populated by true believers.
Since then, there are only a few, including Tucker Carlson, that would actually bemoan the return of your typical neocon Bush-era Republican. The rest will not acknowledge the world-historical significance of the DJT-phenomenon and would best just forget it.
With the exception of Tucker Carlson, which the establishment has legitimately targetted with doxing and smears, Fox news is no threat to the establishment world-order. And the removal of Trump might just put them back into their preferred standing as the scrappy, oppositional party platform. Indeed, happily neutered.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Oct 9 2020 18:11 utc | 113

@ AnneR | Oct 9 2020 17:53 utc | 112.. fwiw i too read your comment @100.. i didn’t have anything to add, but thanks either way for sharing!

Posted by: james | Oct 9 2020 18:36 utc | 114

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 8 2020 23:16 utc | 63
“Business lobbyists do not direct foreign policy…”
If you look at the history of latin America, you would be hard pressed to name a single country who hasn’t suffered from either the crushing jackboot or the hidden fist of uncle sam. Or both. Now consider that the very name banana republic, which is what America has repeatedly installed on the continent in a century and a half of meddling, was coined to describe such a regime serving business interests.
And regarding Israel’s power, I believe this power is very much self serving, so in other words, Israel does influence American foreign policy. I don’t think this has much to do with religious beliefs but rather with the strict lock down of the narrative. There simply isn’t any room for objectivity when the field of discussion is so severely constricted.

Posted by: robin | Oct 9 2020 18:40 utc | 115

Nemesis Calling@113 is complimentary, for which thanks. As to divisions at Fox, if Fox threw away chances to trash the Democrats by pumping up Sanders *and* making ratings hay with a horse race, then they could have suppressed Trump like the entire media suppressed Sanders. But you’re right on one thing, nothing is monolithic, not even Fox. I don’t watch Fox so further details I couldn’t dispute.
For the same reason, the fact that nothing’s monolithic, the fact that the EU overall tends to cave to the US, doesn’t mean there is no opposition. Our esteemed host, b, is perhaps an example of how a condominium with Russia is a major step to a genuine European/EU independence. But I still read this as a reason there is a serious faction fight over Russia policy, which is just as much–maybe even more?—about keeping Europe in line. [And all of this is complicated by Boris Johnsons/Brexit plan to make England the American Hong Kong to Europe’s mainland. Airstrip One forever!]
And I agree Trump thinks of himself as a good businessman and is trying to get the best deal for Americans. There is a story about William Jennings Bryan telling T.P. Gore the three keys to his success. Gore Vidal, grandson, says Gore could never remember them, as he was too busy wondering why Bryan thought he was a success. But the sincerity of Trump’s vision is irrelevant. It is entirely compatible with a hand in the till. Stalin was sincere in wanting to preserve communism, at least in the USSR, but that was compatible with a personal dictatorship. People are never all one thing, or just one thing, or all their own will even.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 9 2020 18:50 utc | 116

b was supposed to be call a best “explainer” not a best “example.”

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 9 2020 18:52 utc | 117

james @114 – Ta muchly!

Posted by: AnneR | Oct 9 2020 19:21 utc | 118

AnneR @ 100:
I don’t suppose that at the time you had your FB conversation with the former student, that you were aware of Kamala Harris’s following actions as former Californian Attorney General: imprisoning parents if their children played truant from school; and keeping people in prison after their prison terms had expired, if companies using those prisoners as factory labour wanted to continue using them?

Posted by: Jen | Oct 9 2020 19:22 utc | 119

Posted by: v | Oct 9 2020 15:29 utc | 107

“Are you really comparing Islamist headchoppers with a bunch of BLM activists??”

Noting a similarity does not connote a literal full equivalence.

Posted by: Erelis | Oct 9 2020 19:30 utc | 120

Robin @115
I think business lobbies influence a lot of policies but it appears that on the wider scale of foreign involvement it has to fit in with the anti-socialism/ anti-restless natives policies from even higher influencers. Apparently there are many lawsuits now pending against the administration for lost business due to the sanction machine.

Posted by: arby | Oct 9 2020 21:06 utc | 121

@120 Erelis
Similarity my ass! And that’s not the only idiotic thing you wrote @101. Your fear-mongering dog whistle on war with Russia if Trump loses is equally stupid and absurd.
The focus of Ziofascists and their slaves in Congress is on China and Iran. Russia too has a Zionist oligarchy not as much in control but to which Putin is quite accommodating, and Israel has a million Zionist Russians and them facts stand between full blown war with Russia, and Putin works this reality to his advantage. So all the nonsense about war with Russia is pure bunk propaganda for non-interventionists to blindly support Trump! NATO is merely a check on Putin. It’s all about posturing and containment while Putin is in charge in Russia.
China and Iran are the ones that are in the crosshairs and especially with a Trump presidency.

Posted by: Circe | Oct 9 2020 21:50 utc | 122

US elections don’t change US foreign policy? The election of Trump killed the nuclear deal with Iran, and there’s no doubt that Israel and Saudi Areabia want him re-elected. His re-election restored the embargo on Cuba as well, and meant the veto of the Senate resolution to end the siege of Yemen, and pulled the USA out of the Paris Agreement, potentially blowing our chance of preventing runaway climate change.
Elections obviously matter. If you can’t see any distinctions you’re more interested in looking edgy than anything.

Posted by: Sigil | Oct 9 2020 23:24 utc | 123

It is a curious juxtaposition: Bashar al Assad and Caitlin Johnstone. B finds it hard to disagree with both, but I’m gonna nitpick.
Dr Assad rationalises the dilemma of US politics- the limitations and obligations of the CEO/POTUS and the corrupting work of the lobbies industry. He knows where to apportion blame, and it is not directed towards Trump. Johnstone damns the entire system (oligarchic empire, two-handed sock puppetry fake drama) and invites “real debate” on why it should exist at all, and concludes with a rallying call that it “should be completely dismantled”.
The once upon a time stimulating journalist Johnstone has lost her originality though no doubt gaining fans. Who can doubt her? We do not disagree Ms Johnstone, but the “smash the system” chorus doesn’t do it for me anymore. Is this what passes for real debate with the “left”? Has it been reduced to Trotskyite revolutionary fantasies, or their vicarious journalistic equivalent? (Andre Vltchek, to his credit a praxis man, was not always on the right side of the barricades. Egypt, for eg. I dare you to contemplate what might have transpired with Morsi in power).
Dr Assad never uses language a la Johnstone (et al). He wants to inform you, rather than incite your wrath. There is a difference.
Assad, Putin, Trump- three very different personalities, all coterminous presidents and all three with a quality of extraordinariness which has disrupted the geopolitical status quo and the imperial agenda. (But here is a difference -Assad and Putin are law-abiders, Trump is reckless.)
Universalist socialists and the proselytisers of liberal values find common cause in demonising these men as dictators (Assad, Putin, Trump) or faux socialist (Assad, Putin) or murderers (Assad, Putin, Trump) and the messaging gets amplified exponentially around the western world.
Why include Trump? Because his aberration presidency has sought to alter aspects of US foreign policy, and the resulting turmoil is the west’s “quo vadis” moment. Geopolitically, alliances are being contested, an old empire decouples, novel empires are being imagined, civilisational partnerships are being implemented- dangerous pursuits, but this is how multipolarity begins.
Trump has made this transition possible. The Atlanticists, (they are damned forever, and I mean biblically, after Syria), must abhor him.

Posted by: Australian lady | Oct 10 2020 4:05 utc | 124

Jen @119
From your remark on my post, it is abundantly clear that You have MISREAD and misunderstood my point – to the FB “friend” of my late husband and on my post. It was not me who posted support for Harris – because, they wrote, their child felt kinship with KH because of the latter’s skin tone. I was being faintly sarky – as my original culture commonly is and as I am aware most Americans are not.
My response to the FB “friend” was intended to indicate that Harris’s really existing actions as city and then state attorney (and specifically so to those of a high melanin level skin tone; plus her excusing police officers) were thoroughly despicable, unconscionable and SURELY mattered far more than any skin hue. (And it is almost certain that she – as senator – was fully on board for the huge money drop to the MIC and thus has zero conscience regarding US slaughter of millions of people – most of darker skin tones – across the world; not to mention that those monies would improve the lives of the poor – all skin tones – in the USA, were the military to be defunded.)
From my pov – you do not vote for anyone simply because they tick the “right” “diversity” boxes. It is bad enough that this is not anything approaching a real democracy; that it is profoundly corrupt at the highest levels of government and bureaucracy, with the corporate-capitalist-imperialists monies lashed out – but this corruption has been “legalized” in ways no other non-western country has thought to do; that its “democracy” is simply a choice between a red face or a blue face fronting fundamentally the same grotesque Mammon and Moloch soaked, worshiping top 10%. There is no one to vote for – or against because they are all in the same porker trough together and have zero interest in what happens to us, the ordinary people.

Posted by: AnneR | Oct 10 2020 12:43 utc | 125

Sigil @Oct9 23:24 #123
You have to look a little deeper.

  • nuclear deal with Iran
    This ‘deal’ was done as a delaying tactic because toppling Assad was taking longer than expected. It was never ratified, and was never going to be ratified, by the AIPAC Congress so that any future President could exit the Agreement.
  • Israel and Saudi Areabia want him [Trump] re-elected
    Whether support for Israel or Saudi Arabia is overt (like Trump) or covert (like Obama), every President supports these bulwarks of the Empire.
  • embargo on Cuba
    The Trump Administration has only partially reversed Obama’s Cuban policy. Diplomatic relations and travel to Cuba continue.
    In the same vein, Trump continues Obamacare. He just stop enforcing the ‘no preconditions’ aspect.
  • veto of the Senate resolution to end the siege of Yemen
    Sanders Yemen resolution was criticized for having a big loop-hole that would’ve allowed US support for the war on Yemen to continue. So Trump vetoed it.
    Obama Killed a 16-Year-Old American in Yemen. Trump Just Killed His 8-Year-Old Sister.
  • pulled the USA out of the Paris Agreement, potentially blowing our chance of preventing runaway climate change
    Obama also undermined global efforts to combat climate change.

Trump is an activist President while Obama was a co-optivist but the policies don’t really change. What Obama did covertly, Trump does overtly (MAGA!).
‘No drama’ Obama broke many of his campaign promises to support the Deep State/establishment – virtually all of which were largely ignored/excused by media lapdogs. Obama didn’t stop the wars, he conducted covert wars – and even bragged of his drone targeting skills. Obama made the Bush tax cuts permanent (most of them). Obama didn’t add a ‘public option’ to RomneyCare. Obama wouldn’t prosecute CIA wrongdoing or end NSA’s ‘collect it all’ pervasive spying. Obama continued the war on whistle-blowers.
!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 10 2020 13:44 utc | 126

Trump is so enamoured with the sight of his sick self in the balcony scene of the video set to music he shot in the White House portico, he’s invited 2000 people to the White House to give a Lawless Order speech from the balcony since he is the lawless pot calling the kettle more black and lawless.
Oh, and he told Fox that as of Friday evening he’s drug free, but is he virus infection free?😉.
Trump White House event

Posted by: Circe | Oct 10 2020 14:15 utc | 127

@126 The one-trick rabbit never running out of words to do his Maga-best to get Trump re-elected. Desperation reeks. Don’t vote; let Trump win! Rinse-wash-repeat.
😴💤 — I think I’ll go back to bed and catch up on some shuteye.

Posted by: Circe | Oct 10 2020 14:29 utc | 128

“U.S. foreign policy does not change from presidency to presidency.”
That is because the differences between Republican and Democrat are only superficial. Both share the same national interest: sustaining US global dominance. Blind to history they are hurdling towards WWIII.
https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

Posted by: peter mcloughlin | Oct 10 2020 14:41 utc | 129

Firmly in the better-late-than-never category, thanks to those who offered suggestions following my earlier request.
———————-
As to Kamala Harris (AnneR @125 and others), I keep asking why her public record is not brought up more frequently. Pence barely mentioned it during the debate. Tulsi Gabbard basically chopped Harris off at the knees when the DNC couldn’t move the goalposts fast enough and Tulsi got a chance to be on stage at the same time. The Harris campaign was dissolved soon thereafter, and I assumed the relationship between those two events was more than chronological.
Just for fun: I know an 80+ year old man who refers to KH as “Willie Brown’s old mattress”.

Posted by: NotBob | Oct 10 2020 20:35 utc | 130

@124 Australian Lady
Wonderful comment. Thanks.
There is indeed something that binds POTUS and Putin.
Some here claim that the U.S. has never been more hawkish to Russia under Trump. This is hogwash.
The MIC demands some kind of appearance of simmering tensions, but Trump I believe has been the bulwark against the kind of hostilities that imo would have been more probable under a Killary Clinton admin.
I agree that there is an unspoken bond of truce btw the three, w/ I believe Trump asking Putin to monitor the influx of Iran into the area. For better or worse.
Trump still has the old hatred for the Mullahs.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Oct 11 2020 0:28 utc | 131

Judicial Watch:
We have now received 48 pages of emails among top Obama State Department officials and a U.S. Ambassador expressing skepticism about Steele reports by Steele’s London-based private intelligence firm Orbis Business Intelligence.
Steele was the author of the Clinton-funded, anti-Trump dossier. One assistant secretary of state says some of Steele’s reports sound “extreme” and others “do not ring true,” while the U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine calls some Steele reports “flaky.”
We obtained the heavily-redacted emails in our FOIA lawsuit filed on April 25, 2018, on behalf of the Daily Caller News Foundation against State after it failed to respond to three separate FOIA requests (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:18-cv- 00968)).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjs_rBEy7T8
https://www.judicialwatch.org/tom-fittons-weekly-update/new-findings-about-the-dodgy-dossier/

Posted by: Mao | Oct 11 2020 4:21 utc | 132

Re 126
The deal with Iran reversed the drive towards war and helped the Iranian economy. It also unfroze billions in Iranian assets. I doubt Iranians would be as quick to dismiss the value of those measures and the damage that Trump’s election has caused. And I doubt Obama would have just fucking killed Soleimani while he was on his way to a peace negotiation in Iraq.
The Yemen resolution similarly would have saved a lot of lives. Trump doesn’t give a shit; the Saudis have directed him not to. The support from Israel and the Saudis is notably stronger for Trump due to his ideological and business interests. This matters on the ground to people being ethnically cleansed in the West Bank and the Houthi mountains, which means it’s far more important than the game of pretending Dems and Republicans are the same.
The Paris Agreement is far from perfect, but it’s the best the world can do to coordinate climate action – in no small part because the Republicans insist on wrecking the climate and voting down any treaty that might save it. They’re the reason it’s just an ‘agreement’ after all and not a treaty; if it were a treaty they’d have to ratify it in the Senate.

Posted by: Sigil | Oct 12 2020 1:12 utc | 133

Nearly half of US voters believe the election will not be ‘fair or honest’ and 61% are worried the outcome could spark a civil war, surveys find
Richard Steven Hack | Oct 9 2020 6:05 utc
Between rivers of money poured anonymously by patriotic citizens of means and assorted impediments to voting that seem Republican specialty, the elections are not fair, outright “dishonesty” is rather secondary — what the law allows is scandalous.
Given that a bit more than half accepts that status quo, I suspect that a hefty proportion of them thinks that these shenanigans are in their favor. But the may get angry if disappointed.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Oct 12 2020 15:49 utc | 134