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October 18, 2020

The MoA Week In Review - Open Thread 2020-83

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:

  • October 13 - Professor Chossudovsky Is Wrong - Here Is How PCR Tests Work
    Related:
    Last week there was an outbreak of Covid-19 in Qingdao, a harbor city of 11 million in south China. Two dock workers had fallen ill. A CT scan room used for the Covid-19 patients was not properly disinfected and another 14 people got the virus. Alarmed about the outbreak the authorities tested all people in Qingdao. Within 5 days 10.8 million RT-PCR tests were taken and processed. Chossudovsky and others claim that these tests often produce 'false positive' results. So how many 'false positives' did they find in Qingdao?
    Qingdao finishes city-wide testing, finds no new COVID-19 cases - Global Times
    None. Zero. Nada. RT-PCR tests DO NOT produce false positive results.

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Other issues:

Covid-19 politics:

Rather than viewing the Chinese government’s reaction as a sign of its love of a lockdown, I now think of it as emblematic of the bureaucratic élan that underlies much of China’s rise over the past few decades, from the largely successful economic policies that went counter to the shock treatment advocated by many Western experts to its rolling out a national highway and high-speed rail network—public engineering feats that Western countries used to accomplish quickly but that now drag on for years or decades.

Covid Europe:

  • This was Europe five days ago. Denmark, Germany and Austria had little incidence. But the cultural levees sprang leaks and the yellow countries are now also turning red.

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Election:

Use as open thread ...

Posted by b on October 18, 2020 at 14:09 UTC | Permalink

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Here we get a unique insight into the operation of a Russia-specific banking operation that appears to be quasi-public in its nature and funding, and has produced outstanding results for Russians, not Financial Predators. An excerpt to give readers an idea of this report:

"Today Rosselkhozbank operates in 82 Russian regions. The regional network, the third in size, comprises 1,357 branch offices. The bank has 7 million clients, both individuals and legal entities. An interesting fact: the government invests 459 billion rubles in a bank, and the bank, in turn, provides support for the national agriculture at 9.4 trillion rubles. The bank currently employs 32,000 people.

"Currently, Rosselkhozbank is one of the five biggest Russian banks and a backbone bank of the national economy. It ranks fifth in capital (511 billion rubles) and in the amount of attracted funds and private lending. It comes fourth in terms of mortgage and corporate lending.

"Most importantly, Rosselkhozbank is the absolute leader when it comes to financing the agro-industrial complex. In 2019, we funded projects worth a total of 1.3 trillion rubles."

As ought to become clear when finished, Russia's banking system is certainly a hybrid unique to Russia. I know of no such similar bank within the Outlaw US Empire. It is the type of public funding utility Hudson often talks about, which in this case is tailored to a specific area of the Russian economy, but is also more than that as it also serves the needs of rural, farming regions that were being grossly underserved prior to 2000 when the bank was formed.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 20 2020 16:32 utc | 201

@ AtaBrit | Oct 20 2020 4:26 utc | 197.. thanks atabrit... i appreciate the additional notes and info..

@ Tom | Oct 20 2020 7:08 utc | 198... it is how i tend to see erdogan too, and he has been very successful in maintaining his power... he is playing a dangerous game, but so far has managed to pull it off.. i am surprised at how long he has lasted...

Posted by: james | Oct 20 2020 16:50 utc | 202

@karlof1 | 201

Excellent post. Thanks Karlof1. Will take some time to digest, but yet another example of Russia forging its own path.

I don't always have the time to truly engage with everything you post, I wish I did. And often I am not in the position to provide insightful comments on the subjects you present - I tend to stick to what I know - but your posts are greatly appreciated and always worth attention. Cheers.

Posted by: AtaBrit | Oct 20 2020 19:17 utc | 203

Hunter Biden laptop

There is a strong push to PROVE that the Hunter Biden laptop authentic.

Most are too ignorant or too partisan to question why the laptop appears just before the election.

The possibility that the laptop is "authentic" but scrubbed by FBI/CIA is ignored by media and establishment pundits.

It's highly likely that the laptop's sudden appearance comes with approval of the Deep State. In 2016, a laptop was also found that damaged Hillary: the Anthony Weiner laptop with Hillary's emails. And this is just one of many parallels between 2016 and 2020. Hillary also feigned mental problems. Sanders was also a sheepdog in 2016. Hillary also took the black vote for granted (recall Biden's "you're not black (if you don't support me)" statement). Etc.

And so, Craig Murray gets it all wrong when he writes:

The story now is that Hunter Biden abandoned a laptop in a repair shop, and the hard drive contained emails between Hunter and Burisma in which he was asked for, and promised, various assistance to the company from the Vice President. This hard drive was passed to the New York Post. What the emails do not include is any incriminating correspondence between Hunter and his father in which Joe Biden agrees to any of this – which speaks to their authenticity, as that would be the key thing to forge. Given that the hard drive also contains intimate photos and video, there does not seem to be any real doubt about its authenticity.

Joe Biden is a Zionist and long-standing member of the Deep State. That he's the Presidential candidate of by a Deep State-controlled duopoly Party is all one needs to confirm this. He will never be prosecuted for anything and any embarrassing disclosures will be kept to a minimum necessary to accomplish Deep State objectives - which include re-electing Donald Trump.

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Hunter played on his father's position. And Joe Biden probably knew that he did. But they were not acting alone. CIA was involved as well as other 'connected' people.

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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 20 2020 21:38 utc | 204

AtaBrit @203--

Thanks for your kind reply! Many critics of Russia's banking/finance sector don't have a complete picture as there's much more "public" input in the form of the central government. Since I began following Putin, he's consistently and very strongly advocated for banking/finance to back Russia and its people instead of speculating just to make money for the sake of making money which is the core of Neoliberalism. He didn't coin Win-Win, but that's been his attitude always.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 20 2020 22:40 utc | 205

@karlof1 #192
China has been trying to get its semiconductor capability ramped up for multiple decades now.
The problem is that - at least for cutting edge semiconductor tech - it is really difficult. The semicon industry is driven to a very significant degree by a symbiotic relationship between large design houses, foundries and semicon equipment suppliers.
Even as China has been able to build up expertise on the design side (Huawei), this is far different than foundry or semicon process capability.
Even for older processes - say circa year 2000 - the expertise required to create processes which are heat-tolerant, radiation tolerant, high MTTF (mean time to failure), etc is extremely difficult to replicate or buy.
The US can interdict attempts to do so trivially - ranging from embargoes on sales of Applied Semiconductor and its cohorts to attacking the supply side (silicon wafers, processing chemicals, photoresist) to monopolizing experts (which already occurs).
This isn't like even attacking Cisco's core routing business, which Huawei has done: routers are ultimately easily accessed (present day customers), tested (existing routers vs. new designs), or sold (Cisco is such a monopoly that their prices are really high and leave a lot of scope for a competitor).
End customers have zero access to the process, the equipment used, the expertise embodied in the design rules, spice decks, etc.
To re-create a competitive semiconductor industry, China has to create the tools to create the tools to create the tools.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 21 2020 0:03 utc | 206

@ karlof1 with the link to the Rosselkhozbank article...thanks

Yes, this is what public banking looks like. Its too bad we can't see more of the insides of the China banking system.

Will the elite nuke us all so we can't evolve our society to be more equitable by having banking be a public utility instead of the jackboot of a small cult?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 21 2020 0:33 utc | 207

psychohistorian @207--

Yes, quite functional. It isn't Capitalism that's bad; it's the morals of those who call themselves Owners. It can still be Capitalism if everyone's an Owner.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 21 2020 5:03 utc | 208

Jackrabbit | Oct 20 2020 21:38 utc @ 204 reckoned:

"Most are too ignorant or too partisan to question why the laptop appears just before the election

What tosh! the answer to that is obvious. This is a major revelation , albeit one that is easy to forget or misremember in the current climate of daily j'accuse therefore the rethugs held off until october, not realising how blatant dim owners would be suppressing open debate.

Until it has been proven otherwise, a critical qualification given Biden or Biden junior's reluctance to deny these allegations, the incriminating evidence on the computer is worthy of fair consideration.

Get real, a vote for either Biden or Trump is a vote for a corrupt, business as usual, "the people? yuk yuk, who cares!", arsehole.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Oct 21 2020 6:56 utc | 209

COVID-19 death rate for hospitalized patients falls 70%

It still isn't good to get COVID-19, be of the 1 in 5 that progress to serious, then the 1 in 2 that get hospitalized, but in that case the latest likelihood of dying has fallen from 25.6% to 7.6%.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 21 2020 17:16 utc | 210

An FYI for late Thursday or Friday depending on your earthly location:

"Chinese President Xi Jinping will attend a meeting in Beijing Friday to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the Chinese People's Volunteers (CPV) army entering the Democratic People's Republic of Korea in the War to Resist US Aggression and Aid Korea.

"Xi ... will deliver an important speech at the meeting, which will be held at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing at 10 a.m. Friday.

"The event will be broadcast live by China Media Group and on xinhuanet.com. It will also be rebroadcast simultaneously on major news websites including people.com.cn, cctv.com and china.com.cn, as well as on news apps run by the People's Daily, Xinhua News Agency and China Central Television."

I'll speculate and say Xi's going to speak about the Taiwan situation and put in into the global context.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 21 2020 18:16 utc | 211

Which nations will side with the Outlaw US Empire against China and Russia is a question whose answer is in flux. This Global Times editorial explores that topic with regard to China and makes some excellent points:

"Development is the core interest of all countries worldwide. How can the US turn China, the world's top trader, into the so-called common enemy of its allies? Even the US is reluctant to give up the Chinese market. As the US suppresses China, it is also looking forward to profiting from China.

"Washington's biggest problem is that it refuses to face the reality. China's rapid development has given some Americans a sense of crisis. This is normal and understandable, and people in other countries will inevitably have ambivalent feelings about China's rise. But what the US needs is to undergo internal reforms to further release the vitality of US society, mobilize the diligence of its citizens, and improve the country's competitiveness. Unfortunately Washington has taken a wrong path, trying to use geopolitical methods it used during the Cold War to resolve problems in the current globalization era.

"US allies will not follow its suit. They may at best ideologically support the so-called unity demanded by Washington, but they will not pay for US political elites' ambition at the expenses of their own development interests. US allies have diverse interests on the China issue. Only a few countries have territorial disputes with China, and they do not want relations with China to hang on territorial issues....

"The US is more powerful than China, not to mention it has many allies. However, Washington now seems powerless, and the key is it has been working in the wrong direction, and is incompatible with the spirit of the times. The US cannot even understand the interests that relate to its China policy, which makes it even harder to mobilize other countries. US allies may be forced to comply in public but they will resist in private....

"Washington has overestimated the role of the so-called common values in gathering its allies. The US is selfish. It has selfish goals and means in its strategy to contain China. But selfish unilateralism does not go far - this is the true universal value of human society."

Yes, selfish is 100% correct, but then that's what it takes to win Monopoly since the goal is to bankrupt all other players. So, in such a situation, the selfish player has no genuine allies, only other competitors trying their best to bankrupt the selfish player by being even more selfish. The Neoliberal nations can continue playing their game, but most of the world knows that's not the best way and are following a decidedly different path.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 21 2020 18:37 utc | 212

102#Passerby

I just read an interesting analysis by weekly commentator Sascha Lobo in Der Spiegel about the teacher beheading in France,the Knife murder by syrian refugee in Dresden,and the difference in the leftists approach to far-right hate crimes and islamist hate crimes.So we see that not only in France but in Germany as well,a dam has broken.A lot of commenters under this article mention as a fact that similar comments they've tried to place on such articles in the past were never publicized.Now also the german center and left will proceed to this kind of vision.I think this is what the Apocalypse of St.John refers to as the falling down of the walls of Gog and Magog.

Posted by: willie | Oct 21 2020 19:04 utc | 213

@ karlof1 211
re: China
I'll speculate and say Xi's going to speak about the Taiwan situation and put in into the global context.

Xi's speech might be framed around these facts.

Taiwan just celebrated its bogus "National Day" celebrations on October 10. Imagine that, Taiwan has been a nation for 109 years! here
and Taiwan's "President" Tsai Ing-wen has said "we are an independent country already" here
...I guess the 109-year-old Taiwan nation didn't get the memo from the US: ""The United States does not support Taiwan independence." (US State Dept) here. It's clear that Taiwan has made a misguided sovereignty decision that both China and the US disagree with.

Apparently the US hasn't even recognized the problem, so obviously China has to do something.
China has many options to reverse the unsatisfactory Taiwan independence that China and the US are faced with. But whatever option China selects has a good chance of success. Two retired Taiwan generals are familiar with the poor state of Taiwan's military versus China. Retired General Sun Hai-tao has said that Taiwan is no match for PLA. . .here and retired Taiwanese general Chen Ting-chung has said that Taiwan's combat capabilities are "close to none" and its armed forces stand no chance against the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA). . .here.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 21 2020 19:17 utc | 214

karlof1 @212

"The US is selfish" is, I think, an overly polite way to put it. I think it is not that Americans do not want to look beyond themselves, but rather that they cannot. For most Americans the "outside world" as they imagine it is simply too alien to relate to. Part of this is because they are fed total bullshit about the "outside world" by their TVs, and this is doubly true for countries that are being cast as their enemy du jour, but I think a big part is that Americans don't really travel much.

But overall that article displays important insight. Economics will always trump "common values". That is, after all, how the United States arrived at the position of global hegemon that it is now in the process of losing. It wasn't "values" that people wanted but rather a Coke, Levis, and a Chevy, even if people try to claim otherwise.

"No! Really, it was 'Freedom©' that we wanted!"
"And what, exactly, is freedom to you?"
"Uh, a Coke, Levis, and a Chevy?"

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 21 2020 19:31 utc | 215

from USNI News
Russian Navy Seen Escorting Iranian Tankers Bound for Syria . here

Last week, the Iranian-flagged oil tanker Samah entered the Mediterranean Sea via the Suez Canal. After a few miles, the 900-foot-long ship stopped reporting its position and destination. Evidence suggests the ship sailed to Syria, escorted by two Russian Navy ships, including a destroyer.

Russia’s role in protecting the shipment may change the dynamics in the Eastern Mediterranean. In the past, Iranian tankers sailing to Syria have been intercepted by the U.K. Royal Navy. The Russian Navy escort could be viewed as a precautionary step, raising the political and military risks of any intervention by the Royal Navy or others.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 21 2020 19:46 utc | 216

@216 The Adrian Darya was seized in July 2019. Since then Britain has left the European Union so the Royal Navy doesn't technically need to enforce EU sanctions anymore. I'm sure they'll find other places to stick their noses in.

Posted by: dh | Oct 21 2020 20:17 utc | 217

@ 217
Apparently Russia does think there's a danger, most probably from the US or its allies, now that Iran has given the world another US loss.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 21 2020 20:26 utc | 218

The chance of a successful full-out China invasion of Taiwan has been lowered for the next five months because of unsatisfactory weather (including gale winds) in the Taiwan Strait . .here. China does have other options, including naval mines used to blockade Taiwan.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 21 2020 20:43 utc | 219

@218 I guess the Israelis might feel emboldened to hijack the Iranian tanker. They seem to think they have the Gulf States bottled up these days.

Posted by: dh | Oct 21 2020 20:50 utc | 220

Don Bacon @214 & 216--

Thanks for your reply, links and news. I'm happy to see the escort, yet surprised that didn't occur earlier. Given the anniversary celebration Xi's speaking at, we may also get some news from the Korean front as other than the night time parade showing the new missiles not much has occurred. We'll soon find out.

William Gruff @215--

Yeah, selfish is a polite word for greedy, and greed is what the Outlaw US Empire's overall policy has always been based upon. George Keenan's 1948 statement that the Empire needed to continue to consume 60% of global resources regardless of other nation's needs is the prime example and exposed the Cold War's actual purpose. But as I see things, the unwillingness to improve and to mine the worth of what had already been produced is what's led to the Outlaw US Empire's undoing. The situation could be so vastly different if GHW Bush had taken a different road in 1989, but all anyone at the top could visualize was greed, like Daffy Duck in Ali Baba's cave with the diamond and all. The USSR stood ruined, but the Outlaw US Empire thinking it had won took its own road to ruin.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 21 2020 20:51 utc | 221

karlof1@211 and Don Bacon@214,

Thank you for your comments. I'd like to add a few thoughts:

1. Taiwan is an important issue to China, but not the most important at the moment. Should Taiwan's DPP or amerikka make a mistake to cross China's red lines, that will be a different story. For China, the more important things are to focus on developments to eliminate its shortcomings (such as high-end semiconductor) as soon as possible. China will have Taiwan back. It is not if but when. And it is China's call about when if no spoiler pops up.

2. Taiwan golden time had passed years ago. IMHO, Taiwan's peak was 1990s during Lee's administration. Since then, Taiwan started to use what it accomplished and accumulated (in the aspect of national wealth). Lee started to remove Chinese culture and literacy from grade school curriculum in early 1990. Chen's admin (DPP) followed and Ma's admin (KMT) didn't correct it. Consequently, people below 40 years old aren't relate themselves with China much as older generations are. And that's why polling shows the attitude toward to "independence" from China now. It's deliberate work done in decades (since early 1990).

Taiwan DPP politicians are not fools. They are trying to extract as much as Taiwan's wealth for themselves while they still can. So they won't dare to cross the line to break their banks. In addition, DPP is the best axxkissers amerikkka can ever have. These DPP people like to be amerikka's lapdog and they will buy their own dog food as well. On the other hand, one doesn't need to expect much out of KMT either. KMT has become history now. Ma would be the one who destroyed it.

3. For amerikka, it also tries to squeeze as much as possible from Taiwan by selling weapons and whatever it wants to dump on Taiwan. Given DPP's unparalleled loyalty to amerikka, amerikka can basically get whatever it wants. amerikka just completed a new de facto embassy compound in Taiwan not long ago. It's a very large one. It seems to me it may be a backup or substitute to the HK one. Taiwan is much larger than HK so amerikka must have started its "preparation" in Taiwan for "future events".

The sad part is most people in Taiwan have been brainwashed so deep that they think amerikka would send in its military to defend it. Should anything happen, it's the people who suffer. However, they would take some blame themselves since they elected the regimes into power.

The practice in democracy in Taiwan over the past 4 decades is a really good example. It clearly shows how politicians manipulate the electorate to get elected then brainwash the electorate to ensure their stay in power. It's a downward spiral. The average education level in Taiwan is very good in the world. However, that doesn't mean people there can think properly and logically. Even though there are clear minds in Taiwan, they are completely overwhelmed by majority of people that don't in democracy. The way DPP to gain power is to use tribalism since KMT came from mainland. DPP's approach is very cheap and effective. It works very well for them. So it's not necessarily related to the education level of the electorate. And a sad fact is most people everywhere cannot think properly and logically. So one kind of tribalism or another works everywhere.

Posted by: LuRenJia | Oct 21 2020 21:43 utc | 222

LuRenJia @222--

Thanks for your assessment and analysis on Taiwan. If the move is away from Chinese culture, whose culture is Taiwan's leadership trying to get its citizenry to emulate?

Yes, China will direct its massive domestic resources to ensure its goals for 2025 and 2035 will not be disrupted. As I've written earlier, China is at the outset of a new Dynastic period in its long history. At some point I expect to see a Chinese version of Star Trek with all that implies. However, I also see Chinese to be content with their current geographic space; and eventually when relations with Russia get much warmer, more emigration into Russia's Far East. I also expect China to be the first nation to solve the issue of a steady-state, environmentally sustainable economy which will be a planetwide must by century's end.

The West expects China to misbehave because that's what the West did. IMO, China knows better and will teach the West a lesson.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 21 2020 22:51 utc | 223

@LuRenJia 222
yes, all good comments

re: "Taiwan is an important issue to China, but not the most important at the moment"

At the immediate moment the biggest issue for China is getting the RCEP free trade agreement finalized, supposed to be in Vietnam on Nov 14. It's a big deal, favoring China. So until then (or if it's postponed for some reason) Xi will want to avoid upsetting the ASEAN + 4 with any comments on anything. Would any current bellicose comments on Taiwan frighten these countries? Xi will have to factor that in.

re: "Should Taiwan's DPP or amerikka make a mistake to cross China's red lines. . ."

That's already happened with Taiwan acting as a country, as I indicated in my 214 above.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 21 2020 22:53 utc | 224

karlof1@223,

Thanks for your comments. Fundamentally, Taiwan inherits Chinese culture since people there mostly migrated from China at different times. The last major migration from mainland to Taiwan was KMT's retreat that brought millions of people over. However, that amount was still minority of the population. The majority were still immigrants at earlier times that could trace back to Qing Dynasty. From this aspect, Taiwan should be Chinese.

However, Japanese 50-year occupation did put its print on Taiwan, especially when Japanese brutally suppressed Chinese resistance after it took Taiwan from Qing Dynasty. Japanese influence is always in Taiwan even after Republic of China (ROC) got Taiwan back after WW2.

There were a good amount of people in Taiwan were beneficiaries from Japanese, including Tsai Yingwen's father. Tsai's father worked for Japanese. These people were sympathy to Japan and some of them even thought they were Japanese (though Japanese don't view them as Japanese at all). When Taiwan returned to ROC, these people subsequently cooperated with KMT admin. KMT didn't clean up these people after its arrival at Taiwan though. Additionally. there is some speculation that some Japanese didn't return to Japan after WW2 but stayed in Taiwan. They changed their names to Chinese names. These people mostly are DPP supporters. Lee Tenghui himself is indeed a Japanese. At the early time of his regime, he didn't publicly reveal it much. However, he openly revealed his mind after he retired.

In the past 4 decades, Taiwan was also heavily influenced by amerkka's pop culture (TV shows and hollywood movies). So it's quite mixed. Honestly, I think Taiwan citizenry doesn't really know which it wants to emulate. After years of effective brainwashing from the root of education, Taiwan steps away from its Chinese root so lose its fundamental identity. The ruling DPP envies Japanese and can't help to become Japanese again. However, not sure about the average citizenry.

In early 1990, Taiwan still called itself Republic of China (ROC). It is under Lee's regime, Taiwan started to use Taiwan more and less ROC. Lee was in power for 13 years. He did a lot to affect Taiwan's identity.

Honestly, Taiwan's fate is not in its own hands. It is just an amerikka' pawn on the board. However, Taiwan (the ruling DPP) has an illusion that itself is a player. amerikka will ultimately sell Taiwan out. The question is when and at what price. The price may get lower as time goes by.

Posted by: LuRenJia | Oct 22 2020 0:02 utc | 225

Don Bacon @224,

Thanks for your comments. Taiwan in fact behaves as a country. Before early 1990, it's mostly Republic of China (ROC). Before PRC took ROC's seat at UN in 1971, ROC still had some room internationally. After PRC established formal relation with amerikka in 1977, it's steep downhill for ROC since. Taiwan started to call herself Taiwan instead of ROC since Lee's regime. Lee was very good at politics and deliberately change Taiwan people's thinking from education. He's very patient. Lee's dream is Taiwan independence from China. His better dream is Taiwan became a part of Japan.

The reason that Tsai or DPP keeps saying that Taiwan is an independent country is to fool its citizenry. My impression is that one way DPP describes it is "Taiwan is an independent country and her name is Republic of China.". It seems more like playing words rather than actual deed. They don't dare to change or drop ROC constitution and start anew with the name Taiwan.

IMHO, what the ruling DPP does now (such as its rep to amerikka calls herself ambassador even though no formal relation between amerikka and Taiwan) is annoying but not to the extent that China has to act. Should DPP formally declare Taiwan's independence or amerikka's military stations in Taiwan, then it is not negotiable.

Posted by: LuRenJia | Oct 22 2020 0:24 utc | 226

@ LuRenJia 226
Republic of China.". It seems more like playing words
Sure, it's always been since the Kuomintang (KMT), Chinese nationalist party, ROC, got kicked off the mainland and brutally took over Taiwan. They claimed that the Republic of China still existed, had a legislature with reps from the provinces, and pretended to govern all of China PLUS Mongolia. There's an "ROC map" on wikipedia which one can see (the URL is four pages long, can't link to it).

So the ROC just celebrated its 109th birthday, being founded in 1911. Just had their National Day, and now they are "ROC(Taiwan)." ...playing words.
Anyhow LRJ I know that you probably know all this, I just wanted readers to have a glimpse of this complicated situation.
PS: I spent two years of my life on Taiwan, military advisor to ROC military. Learned about Chinese people, very different from westerners, respected them, and learned humility (briefly) bamboo painting. Making the ink with the black ink-bar and water, and then carefully using brush-strokes to paint something that looks like bamboo. One doesn't get do-overs with Chinese brush painting. . . .I'm guessing that President Xi is familiar with the feeling.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 22 2020 2:02 utc | 227

Like Father Like Son: Joe Biden's son scooped up millions from other nations, while Mao's son died defending a neighbouring nation ( excerpted from Global Times, 21 Oct 2020 )

The widow of Mao Anying, late Chinese leader Mao Zedong’s eldest son who died in North Korea during the War to Resist US Aggression and Aid Korea (1950-53), made a rare appearance in a documentary on the 70th anniversary of the war, recalling her farewell from her husband.

Liu Siqi was featured in the documentary Weile Heping (For Peace), which was produced by China Central Television and started airing on Monday. In the program, Liu recalled her last goodbye to her husband, who she had married just one year earlier.

Mao Anying volunteered to fight in the war in 1950, when Mao Zedong decided to set up the Chinese People’s Volunteers Army.

Then 28-year-old Mao Anying went to say goodbye to Liu, who had just undergone an appendectomy. But instead of telling her the truth, Mao Anying said he was doing an errand to a place where it might be difficult to come back home from.

Liu said in the documentary that she sensed something unusual when her husband bowed to her twice before he left.

He never returned.

Posted by: kiwiklown | Oct 22 2020 3:46 utc | 228

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 20 2020 16:32 utc | 201 -- "....the government invests 459 billion rubles in a bank, and the bank, in turn, provides support for the national agriculture at 9.4 trillion rubles. The bank currently employs 32,000 people."
Those numbers say that the 459B invested by government now undergirds lending that serves the peoples' needs to the tune of 20 times more ( !!! ) Long live Public Finance !!!

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 21 2020 5:03 utc | 208 -- "Yes, quite functional. It isn't Capitalism that's bad; it's the morals of those who call themselves Owners. It can still be Capitalism if everyone's an Owner."
It is not the "-isms" that matter. Outlaw morals produce wealth for robber barons, who pretend that is 'capitalism'. Public Finance morals produce wealth for the people, which robber barons pretend is called 'communism'.

Posted by: kiwiklown | Oct 22 2020 4:00 utc | 229

Don Bacon – Oct 22 2020 2:02 utc | 227

This is the map of ROC you mean, I think. Quite a funny one in the light of all the aggressive claims from you know whom about “expansionist” China etc.

The map is linked from the Wikipedia article on Taiwan.

Posted by: phiw13 | Oct 22 2020 4:28 utc | 230

LuRenJia – Oct 22 2020 0:24 utc | 226

At times, Tsai appears to (heavily) walk back any claims towards independence. Shortly after her October 10 speech, there were a few reports on this in the Japanese media (in Japanese, behind a firewall, so no links). I get the impression that she (and various top pols in the DPP) are playing to each side a little.

Listening to the Taiwanese people here in Japan (long time residents), I get the impression that “independence” is still not high on the wish list. Younger people (Japan educated) are a little more radical.

Anyway, I doubt the PRC will invade the island anytime soon, unless the US goes really ballistic. Too costly and with a little patience the current issues will actually vanish as economically Taiwan will be ever more dependent on the mainland.

Posted by: phiw13 | Oct 22 2020 4:44 utc | 231

Below is a posting from Xinhuanet that I haven't seen reported on elsewhere.

"
BEIJING, Oct. 21 (Xinhua) -- China on Wednesday urged the United States to offer a comprehensive clarification on its overseas biological militarization activities.

Foreign Ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian made the remarks when responding to a query about a report that Dmitry Medvedev, deputy chairman of the Russian Security Council, said the U.S. research activities in bio-labs in members of the Commonwealth of the Independent States have caused grave concern.

"The United States not only builds bio-labs in these countries, but also tries to do so in other places across the world," Medvedev was quoted as saying. "However, its research lacks transparency and runs counter to the rules of the international community and international organizations."

This is not the first time the international community has expressed concern to U.S. biological militarization activities in other countries, Zhao told a regular press briefing, adding China has repeatedly stressed that such activities are not transparent, safe or justified.

Zhao said that according to media reports, the U.S. has set up many bio-labs in 25 countries and regions across the Middle East, Africa, Southeast Asia and former Soviet Union, with 16 in Ukraine alone. Some of the places where the labs are based have seen large-scale outbreaks of measles and other dangerous infectious diseases. USA Today reports that since 2003, hundreds of incidents involving accidental contact with deadly pathogens occurred in U.S. bio-labs at home and abroad. This may cause the direct contacts to be infected, who can then spread the virus to communities and start an epidemic.

He also raised questions on the purpose behind building so many bio-labs across the world and their safety standards.

"Why is the effort led by the military? How many sensitive biological resources and how much information has it gleaned from relevant countries?" Zhao asked, demanding to know if there is any potential danger of leakage.

"Why is it that the United States, for more than a decade, has been standing singly in the way of negotiations for a BWC protocol that includes a verification regime?" the spokesperson questioned.

The United States should be open, transparent and responsible, respond to international concerns, faithfully implement its BWC obligations, clarify its biological militarization activities overseas and stop blocking negotiations for a protocol that includes a verification regime, Zhao said.
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Will this subject see the light of day in the West MSM?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 22 2020 4:58 utc | 232

Below is another Xinhuanet posting that explains succinctly what happened recently in Qingdao with the small outbreak of Covid-19. This is how a civilization responds to a biological attack on its people.


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Qingdao reported a small cluster of COVID-19 infections earlier this month. Three asymptomatic patients were identified on Oct. 11, with unknown sources of infection. The city initiated nucleic acid testing for all its 11 million residents on Oct. 12. Other cities in Shandong Province also offered support to Qingdao in testing the samples. Staff at many testing sites worked extra hours or late into the night. The citywide COVID-19 screenings were completed within 5 days. The Qingdao government said results showed no new positive cases. In the meantime, experts were dispatched to trace the source of the new infections. Within 5 days, the source has been traced to two dock workers who underwent CT scans at a hospital. Due to improper disinfection, the CT room was contaminated and the virus further infected other people. From Oct. 11 to 15, the coastal city reported a cluster of 13 confirmed coronavirus cases. Also within 5 days after the new infections emerged, Qingdao ruled out the risk of further community transmission.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 22 2020 5:03 utc | 233

LuRenJia @ 222, 225, 226 --

Thank you for an enlightening snapshot of Taiwan's "independence" dynamics.

Just as the US exploits Hong Kong cockroaches as useful idiots to destabilise China ( not ), so the US finds Taiwan an even bigger useful idiot: more Taiwanese are likely prepared to die fighting China, but few HongKongers will, although in both cases they will actually be dying for the US.

Posted by: kiwiklown | Oct 22 2020 5:20 utc | 234

Just to show that about once a decade the NYT can be a useful informant it has reported that the great Amazing Randi has recently karked it.

My sort of agnostic, he didn't waste time arguing about the number of fauna on noah's ark, or angels on a pinhead. he went out and proved that the 10% tithing preachers are nothing other than greedy liars.

I can't say rip one good amerikan, because Randi was a canadian, wherever he came from he had proof to put the bones on the bodies suggested by intellectual opponents of organised superstition.

Until our planet is rid of the power structure supporting tosh pumped out every day by the greedies of the indiscriminate, plagiaristic and completely unoriginal exponents of organised superstition, there no chance of a peaceful world.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Oct 22 2020 6:55 utc | 235

The defense crowd are crowing about the fact that India has invited Australia to participate in an upcoming "Malabar" naval exercise along with the US and Japan. Australia has not participated for ten years. Here's one exuberant remark from "defense experts."...." This decision, which demonstrates growing multilateral concern regarding China’s increasingly aggressive behavior, offers an opportunity for the “Quad” of democratic nations to strengthen defense cooperation and deter additional aggression from Beijing."
Here's my response:
In other news, there are currently two dozen Australian bulk coal carriers not being unloaded in China ports. China has apparently banned further coal shiments from Oz which will cost Australia billions of dollars. Oz news report: "As the nation struggles to recover from the pandemic and the subsequent recession, the potential loss of coal exports to China in the current economic environment could add months or even a year to the length of the nation’s economic recovery."
So Malabar is a dumb move, Canberra.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 22 2020 14:04 utc | 236

kiwiklown @229--

Your last sentence is an interesting twist that should be injected into the discourse on that topic!

psychohistorian @232--

China has published a 3-volume work in Chinese and English, The War to Resist US Aggression and Aid Korea, just in time for the 70th Anniversary of that victory. There's no mention in the article but I wonder if the book properly documents the Biowar attacks conducted by the Outlaw US Empire during the conflict. That China currently has such large stocks of testing materials readily available is one way of judging their readiness for a Biowar attack. Recall that Escobar was very quick to point out China's description of the outbreak as a "People's War" and closed up like a steel trap slamming shut. Now we have Brazil saying it rejects China's vaccine while the Chinese denounce the danger present in the UK's vaccine testing protocols:

"Zhai Xiaomei, a Beijing-based expert of bioethics and health policy, also executive director of the Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences, said that it's not the time to carry out this experiment at present, since there is little information about the hazards of the novel coronavirus and this experiment is challenging in terms of ethics.

"Zhai said that an important basic indicator for conducting this type of experiment internationally is that the disease is well understood and effective treatment is available. However, the novel coronavirus is quite unusual, and there is no specific medicine, so the safety of the volunteers cannot be guaranteed.

"She said that the risk is too great."

Imagine how BigLie Media would howl if China or Russia were to conduct that type of ethically challenged testing. Xi's supposed to give a major speech later today, 10am Beijing time, at the anniversary celebrating China's victory over the Outlaw US Empire in Korea that's to be carried by all major Chinese media, including Xinhuanet.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 22 2020 15:50 utc | 237

@kiwiklown #229
Personally, I see either extreme as bad.
Capitalism can be fine so long as both social prerogatives are preserved and monopoly is prevented.
Communism is fine so long as the bureaucrats in charge don't start to self-enrich.
Ultimately, any and every system is subject to abuse over time.
That's why I suspect the best system is one which changes unexpectedly at irregular intervals between the 2.
The government in the US was able to do so, particularly in the 20th century.
Prior to that, it was a disaster. See the never-ending string of panics in the 1800s - robber barons at play.
And today, it is also a disaster. See the never-ending string of incompetence - the new American feudal lords in the PMC at play.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 22 2020 17:07 utc | 238

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