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The MoA Week In Review – Open Thread 2020-83
Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:
- October 13 – Professor Chossudovsky Is Wrong – Here Is How PCR Tests Work
Related: Last week there was an outbreak of Covid-19 in Qingdao, a harbor city of 11 million in south China. Two dock workers had fallen ill. A CT scan room used for the Covid-19 patients was not properly disinfected and another 14 people got the virus. Alarmed about the outbreak the authorities tested all people in Qingdao. Within 5 days 10.8 million RT-PCR tests were taken and processed. Chossudovsky and others claim that these tests often produce 'false positive' results. So how many 'false positives' did they find in Qingdao? Qingdao finishes city-wide testing, finds no new COVID-19 cases – Global Times None. Zero. Nada. RT-PCR tests DO NOT produce false positive results.
— Other issues:
Covid-19 politics:
Rather than viewing the Chinese government’s reaction as a sign of its love of a lockdown, I now think of it as emblematic of the bureaucratic élan that underlies much of China’s rise over the past few decades, from the largely successful economic policies that went counter to the shock treatment advocated by many Western experts to its rolling out a national highway and high-speed rail network—public engineering feats that Western countries used to accomplish quickly but that now drag on for years or decades.
Covid Europe:
- This was Europe five days ago. Denmark, Germany and Austria had little incidence. But the cultural levees sprang leaks and the yellow countries are now also turning red.
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Election:
Use as open thread …
I wish it were just propaganda but I´m not sure. According to the PEW Research Center unfavorable views of China reach historic highs in many countries If it`s really true, can anybody explain it to me?
Posted by: m @ 28 with great response by: JB @ 49 the words by: kiwiklown 76 and How will they smear China with the Biden corruption?by: psychohistorian @ 89 <=I thought PEW was a expression of unpleasant odor? You can be sure about the views of China by Americans: In USA governed America, Opinion of China by Americans has moved from China is backward country with despicable leadership, to governed Chinese people have been boarded to the same boat with USA governed Americans, both made into deck hands, made by use of force, rule of law, and government done in secret in idiots of the media. Understanding the Chinese plight is a direct result of moving America to China, Americans opinion of China has moved from Don't care to feel sorry for the Chinese people on one hand and regret that they are enjoying our industries on the other hand. This realization that the Oligarchs moved America to China, has helped Americans see the problem in their own government and the institutions the USA now supports versus what it used to be.
Americans understand that it was not the Chinese masses that stole from Americans, their quality educational institutions, their happy go lucky trust in their fellow Americans, and the industries that fed Americans, but instead it was in the USA, and its Oligarch cronies, just as in China: the persons in control of government were used as a conduit for crime and profit of global enterprises.
Americans also understand it was copyright law, patent law, and privatization contracts and sales of public domain property to highly privileged private enterprise that made possible the Oligarch relocate America by export of American industry to China project. The Oligarchs were after cheap labor and unregulated destroy-able environment places; Wall Street, the USA government, and global banking conspired to move American industrial know-how, American industrial productivity, and American inventiveness and creative genius to China, destroying in the American propensity based on trust of their fellow man, to do business on a hand shake. Why in the hell would Americans not think better of China now than before? China has been made into America by the very people that now want everyone to hate, and war against, China.
by: Jen @ 52 Several different methods of nucleic acid amplification.. RT-PCR is just one. <= Completely agree<=not only different ways to detect, quantify and and assess Covid 19 but <=but different ways to stop the impact of the virus. Instead of chasing a never likely to work immune system activating vaccine against Covid 19, why not spend all that research money on developing a way to deny any Corona Virus access to a single human cell? In other words, deny the virus its ability to infect a human cell, so that no vaccine is ever needed, no matter which corona virus is attacking humanity. I think it comes down to blocking some receptor activity.. and maybe attaching GFP or something to the virus by areosol.. just don't have a lab nowadays to test stuff like this.
Russia has turned its cheek for the last time, Aside from Paco, apparently no other barfly watched. I ask myself if my efforts in posting such material are worthwhile. by: karlof1 @ 53 <=I appreciate your warnings and like very much having a Russian spokes person at the bar..thanks. I think we are seeing in Syria that Russia front,, already a exchange of prisoners and strong backing down by the the oil theives. Something is up.. and Russia is pushing that wave .. When Russia quits dealing with Israel and Turkey.. Russia means business will have meaning.
If Biden wins, nothing changes. But Trump is the Deep State favorite. by: Jackrabbit @ 74 <= if either wins, Americans lose.
These are exactly the kind of people that I once planned to simply execute. Anyone who doubts that Facebook, Google, Twitter and the rest are simply (not-so-covert) agencies of the government are simply deluded. All these outfits need to be hacked, exposed, disrupted, replaced by open-source P2P encrypted alternatives, and the people in charge shot in the head. by: Richard Steven Hack @ 94 <= Agree.. might want to add 5g, Windoze and iphone providers to that list.
The reason why I oppose censorship of any kind is it allows people like you to expose yourself as extremists promoting violence. by: Norwegian @ 104 <= lets see war in Syria, Yemen, executing Generals on peace missions, Lebanon, Afganistan, venezuela, dropping A bomb's on people already suing for peace, invading Iraq, doing 9/11 and pearl harbor against one's own people.. don't match up to extremism?
Posted by: snake | Oct 19 2020 12:20 utc | 119
thanks to Karlofi for providing the links to Lavrov statements. Copied below is text from one of the links. Not the same old “our partners” language anymore lol.
Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s remarks and answers to questions at the presentation of the Valdai International Discussion Club analytical report October 13 2020
excerpts from question/answers:
“During your opening remarks, you mentioned that modern institutions were becoming inefficient and losing their importance and meaning. I would like to know what led you to this conclusion. The thing is that the only obvious and universal reason for making generalisations of this kind is, as I see it, the US policy starting from the withdrawal from the ABM Treaty. After that, there was a relatively long pause, followed by an across-the-board demolition of all arms control and non-proliferation instruments: the INF Treaty, the Treaty on Open Skies, and the START-1 Treaty that will go the same way soon. These form the international legal infrastructure of stability, which actually the entire world community definitively regarded as good and not evil.
I am also referring, apart from international treaties and agreements, directly to multilateral organisations – both the UN, and the specialised agencies it has created, and, of course, the Bretton Woods institutions (the IMF and the World Bank Group). The US has withdrawn, if I recall rightly, from UNESCO and the UN Human Rights Council, and has announced that it will pull out of the World Health Organisation (WHO). In my view, the US is also studying in a detailed and concerted manner a possibility of leaving the WTO, whose operations it has impeded for a number of years now. It uses the filibuster to block personnel appointments to the agency that deals with the resolution of disputes, thus preventing it from acquiring a quorum needed for disputes to be in fact resolved based on the WTO and the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade.
One can also recall instances, where the United States simply does not want to implement any treaties that at least in some way restrict Washington’s free hand internationally, be it economic, trade, investment or any other sphere. The levers used are obvious, sanctions, threats, ultimatums, and so on.”
Yet another trend that also gives food for thought from the point of view of the existing institutions’ viability is the following. Our Western colleagues are seeking to privatise these multilateral international organisations, as is manifested in the activities of the UN Secretariat, to mention just this body. I will not dwell upon this, but everyone is well aware who takes and how the key decisions are made and who exerts the decisive influence on the position of the Secretariat, which must be absolutely impartial and reflect the approaches of the international officialdom that takes an oath of impartiality and rejection of directives coming from any government. This also transpires in the activities of specialised agencies.
I have repeatedly cited examples of how, in fact, the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC) has been “raped.” In a direct and gross violation of all rules, the West has insisted on an illegitimate vote, following which it declared that the OPCW Technical Secretariat would from now on be vested with the UN Security Council’s functions and have the right to identify those to blame for various situations, where there were reasons to assume that CWC-prohibited chemical weapons had been used. Before the West “violated” this universal document, the Technical Secretariat only had the right to establish the fact of use or non-use of a prohibited chemical in response to an application from any CWC member state.
When they fail to organise and rush a “privatisation revolution” through legitimate organisations, topics are taken outside of universal discussions and various partnerships are established, as our French colleagues did by creating a partnership against impunity for the use of chemical weapons and a partnership against human rights violations, although there is the UN Human Rights Council, a legitimate and universal agency. But, in all evidence, not everything is working out there to the benefit of our Western colleagues. They want to have a venue where they will decide who should be punished based on their own rules rather than international law. Established outside the universal organisations of the United Nations, these partnerships create structures to fit their own needs and interests, which will punish those whom these people will identify as culprits.
The EU is actively following in the footsteps of the US, increasingly relying on the threat of sanctions. Brussels has created two mechanisms to punish those, who, in its opinion, will use chemical weapons and violate human rights. All of this is outside of the UN Security Council and in no way tallies with the principles of the UN Charter. If this is understood to be a new reality, then, in my view, we must fight it. Good and evil will not disappear anyway. I am convinced that not only the spirit, but also the letter of the UN Charter are absolutely fine for the modern-day world, if we want it to be a little bit more democratic and just.
. . . Look at what happened at the recent EU Foreign Affairs Council meeting, all the moralising and lecturing there, statements that Russia missed its chance to explain what happened to Alexey Navalny. More conceptually, not so long ago, a couple of weeks ago, President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen stressed how important it was to shed the illusion that Russia under the current government will be able to regain the status of the EU’s geopolitical partner. That was a drastic statement from the highest official in the European Commission. It seems to me that we need to stop looking back at these assessments.
Today I spoke with the EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs Josep Borrell for more than an hour; we got deep into detail. I told him frankly and I said so publicly: if the EU is arrogant enough to declare, with this sense of unconditional superiority, that Russia must understand there will be no “business as usual,” well, Russia wants to understand whether there could be any business at all with the European Union under these conditions. I will not go into detail, although there is a lot that could be said, about the EU behaving in an absolutely inappropriate, unacceptable manner, with regard to the same Navalny incident. This is the case with the statement that as many as five EU countries have already established the truth, and that our attempts to ask them to provide the facts that led them to those conclusions are outrageous and we cannot even question them. Remember the great actor and governor Arnold Schwarzenegger playing that tough guy in films who always, every time someone tried to express doubt, just said, trust me. Even so, I trust him more than I trust the European Union, which is now trying to use the same approach. I mean use it as a rule, and not within the framework of international law. We would like the EU and Germany to follow international law in the situation with Navalny. There is the 1959 European Convention on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters and the protocols thereto. We are referring to those. We ask Germany to fulfil its obligations under these international legal instruments. But Germany says, you have international law, but we have a rule. And the rule is that if we do not trust them, the blame is on us.
In the last twenty years, we have always had self-esteem. But those people who are responsible for foreign policy in the West do not understand the need for mutually respectful communication. So we should probably stop communicating with them for a while. Moreover, Ursula von der Leyen declares that geopolitical partnership is not working with the current Russian government. So be it, if that’s the way they want it.”
Posted by: Perimetr | Oct 19 2020 16:15 utc | 155
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