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October 11, 2020

The MoA Week In Review - Open Thread 2020-81

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:

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Other issues:

Recommended:

Covid-19:

The virus disrupts the cellular signaling system that alarms our immune defenses in very sophisticated ways. The immune defense is delayed but thereby often more intense than is good for our bodies. How does it do that? The first link, from April, already touched on this. The next two are new research.

Saudi Madness:

Class war:

Use as open thread ...

Posted by b on October 11, 2020 at 12:53 UTC | Permalink

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And for the cherry on top of the icecream cone, now that I'm watching the question and answers part of Lavrov intervention, he quotes no other than Schwarzenegger with his "trust me", Lavrov says he trusts the Governor more than he trusts the EU. ¡¡¡

Posted by: Paco | Oct 14 2020 12:17 utc | 301

@Posted by: Paco | Oct 14 2020 10:33 utc | 300

Two days ago, in prime time evening news, Spanish Foreign Minister, Arancha González, announced with great self-confidence an ease that Spanish government was going to support sanctions against the Russian government on the grounds of the poisoning of Russian oposition "activist" Alexey Navalny...

What the Spanish Foreign Minister did not bother to explain the taxpayers paying her wage is who Navalny is and on which grounds this individual of unknown ocupation, already in his fifties, deserves such support by Spanish government Spanish citizens do not even enjoy after seven months of pandemic, so that Spain risks any part of the income it takes through exports with the Russian Federation ( of which millionaire, if not billionaire, loses have already been suffered by farmers and breeders from the first sanctions impossed in solidarity with the US impossed ones on similar invented grounds...)on behalf of an individual whose personal record shows involvement in several embezlement and corruption cases...and moreover when none evidence has been offered to accuse the Russian Federation of such poisoning, pointing all the way to a special operation by the intelligence services of several European countries ( some already willingly out of the EU and with continuous territorial showdowns with Spain ) to damage Russian economy and geopolitcal well deserved power...

Along with failing to explain what the repercusions of these totally unjustified sanctions will be for the Spanish taxpayers, the Spanish Foreign Ministerstated that "these sanctions were not directed against the Russian people", but failed to explain how can she plans to avoid that the sanctions, ultimately, could not end affecting the Russian people...

If she would be trying to justify the support for sanctions against Russia on the grounds of solidarity with Germany ( the country, at first sight, of origin of the ungrounded accusations ) she should before explain how it is justified such solidarity when a German communications corporation with 30% of capital participation by German government fully, and illegally, participated in the secession intent by Catalan autonomic authorities with a full plan for IT technolgies infrastructure to support and built government organs of independent Catalonia....

The German giant that betrayed Spain: T-Systems' hidden pact with Puigdemont

It is also rumor that, in the "post-pandemic world" of the "new normal", Merkel is demanding the sold out of Spanish IT major corporation Telefónica to Deutsche Telecom, and that Spanish ports infrastructure is being sold to a French corporation for a ridiculous price...
This seems to be the "price" for the strange, for so unusual, support by Germany and France to the already obviously wrongly labeled "recovery funds" which, for what it seems, came with a counterpart that would be deemed making us "the Greek" treatment...

This is what the Spanish Foreign Minister, and the whole government of Spain, allegedly of the left, should explain on prime time evening news, and not state without any clarification our shameful participation in a plot to undermine the economic and geopolitical interests of a far away country which make us no harm, and through which we only harm ourselves, in our legendary "well do" in diplomacy, fairness and international credibilty way beyond the pretended political beneffits into the EU, which only could translate into intends on underpining personal careers of former and future EU burocrats currently acting as if they were working for Spanish interests....

I am finding so far this current Spanish Foreign Minister the worst, of which I am aware, in Spanish history, along with the previous ones who later ascended to high EU office...people who are able to sell the country and its citiznes for crumbs...

Arancha González should return to the head of the OMC...since "commerce", at what price could be, is what she seems to dominate most...

Finally, the Covid-19 pandemic resulted being the alibi to turn one of four major European economies, of the few growing in positive ciphers before the "plandemic" after a huge effort by its citizens of 10 years in cuts, into an easy prey for transanational corporations and capital...what allegedly was going to be avoided by the so called "mutualization of debt"..Simply what was achieved was that all got at home, and that french and german corporations got with what was of value instead of extra-EU ones...This is the Fourth Reich of which so much was talked during the 2008 crisis being roundly completed along with the Rotschilds Vichy regime...

Also, in the middle of this "pandemic" a fusion of major banks is taking place in the background, unadverted by the people who have funds on those banks, banks of such size that will compete with central banks and governments and which will give place to monopolies in the fields of not only capital management/lending, but also, as it is clearly shown, IT technologies, basic national infrastructure, and public services, including Health Care..

This is what the "Great Reset" proposed at the WEF is all about, the great looting of what the population was still adverse to allow being looted in certain European countries, under the alibi, for more inri, of that populations´own fake security with respect an unkown virus of unknown origins, with no end in sight, and unknown consequences for the people contracting it along with extraordinary public health measures put in practice ...

I would bet that as soon as great capital and corporations take over what of sovereign is left in public hands, the virus will vanish as it came and the whole economy, in the same predatory capitalist casino model will be restarted, with some who were about to bankrupt before the pandemic, revitalized, with their actives rebusted, and surplus of debt/ballast eliminated...all with taxpayers money......

Go preparing for the privatization of future benefits...

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Oct 14 2020 14:15 utc | 302

@ Smith 295
If so, why is there a nine-dash-line in the South East Asia sea? And when asked, China says it's just using the claim from its imperial past?>
...and when asked to provide a link to what "China says" about the scary nine-dash line you can't do it. The SCS is open and fully functioning for hundreds of ships a day crossing the scary nine-dash line.

China would literally be hard to criticize if they decide to sit on a table and negotiate with ASEAN but they don't. Why?
There's nothing to negotiate with ASEAN. China prefers (as the US does) to negotiate with each country separately, which it does. ASEAN has never brought up the scary nine-dash line.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 14 2020 14:40 utc | 303

And, finally, who is literally eating the world, in the midle of the pandemic?
BlackRock, the monster which came out of the merge of the US FED and Treasury, and why the "great reset" equates "One World Government"...

https://twitter.com/Schuldensuehner/status/1316063147501985797

This is achieving what usually was achieved through war...by other means...

Why some of us talk about biowarfare...

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Oct 14 2020 14:50 utc | 304

How it is not possible that economic sanctions in the middle of a pandemic do not severely harm the general population...Thus, how they lie to us in prime time...BTW, it was Russia who proposed at the UNGA the end of economic sanctions in the middle of the pandemic on humanitarian grounds, call which was ignored by the usual actors, US/UK, plus their puppets in the EU and around the world...

ECONOMIC WAR: The value of the Iranian Rial sinks (as in 2018, 2013) under the combined pressure of US sanctions and measures against the Coronavirus

https://twitter.com/Amor_y_Rabia/status/1316307059114233856

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Oct 14 2020 15:02 utc | 305

Recall that the origins of the adviced general lockdown measures are tracked to an study by the Imperial College of London based on "big data and AI predictive patterns" which then was debunked by real data and by other reputable scientists as being in the end more harmful for public health than the infection itself...One really wonders whether UK, once out of the EU and still neogtiating its way out terms could have any interests in sinking EU economies...Now they press us to further ( beyond our own interests as nations ) sanction Russia under another Novichok psycodrama...

https://twitter.com/Amor_y_Rabia/status/1316273485560401920

https://twitter.com/Amor_y_Rabia/status/1316272522657136641

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Oct 14 2020 15:15 utc | 306

Have you been missing Pompeo lately?

Me yes, I was wondering where he had gone into in the middle of the campaign am mass contagium of the Trump administration...

Well, I found him finally, what do you think he has been doing all this time, apart from harshly pressuring EU governments to form an "Anti-Russian Coalition" and clearly overeating? If you were not able to imagine, I will tell you, lobbying for the Israelis...just in case Trump loses the elections...

Pompeo Calls on Riyadh to Normalise Ties With Israel as Bahrain and UAE Did in September

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Oct 14 2020 16:00 utc | 307

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Oct 14 2020 16:00 utc | 307

Pompeo has been rushing around like mad from one embarassment to the next, barking at everyone as he goes. He has a lot to get done and not much time left. I see stories about his activities mainly in the Russian media, I think they enjoy it.

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 14 2020 16:10 utc | 308

@308 Busy guy. So many buffets....not enough time.

Posted by: dh | Oct 14 2020 16:28 utc | 309

"Russia Registers Its Second COVID-19 Vaccine: EpiVacCorona"

link

Posted by: arby | Oct 14 2020 16:50 utc | 310

Emerging from under the radar is growing trouble for Modi as a revolt is rising against his new Farm Laws. Since India remains a mostly farm/rural based political-economy, this revolt will likely be reflected in the upcoming election season which now deserves closer scrutiny. IMO, Modi's following the Outlaw US Empire's anti-China line is a big mistake for India's primary, fundamental interests. Without India's support, the Empire's Eurasian position would become untenable.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 14 2020 17:00 utc | 311

@vk #292
Thank you.
The reason I asked about "util" is to focus on the problem an 1800s era Marx and his theories have when juxtaposed with modern life.
"Util" is the concept of the hypothetical unit of value for anything - for Marx, it would be labor. What precisely is the value of labor, in quantifiable terms, under classic Marxist theory? How do you measure it? How do you capture and store it? Pay it out?
The "use value" Marx speaks of sounds great in a theory, but it is impossible to translate into practice because ultimate the translation of "use value" to commodity or "exchange value" is subjective.
It is precisely subjectivity which enables "some animals are more equal than others" since the valuator now becomes the arbiter of value.
A closely related problem is the sheer bureaucracy of determining "use value" and "exchange value" across an entire economy and society.
This is not to say that the neoclassicists are right either - that value is nothing more price.
The other issue I spoke of is closely related: even discounting the problems of valuation and quantification above - how can classic Marxist theory apply when the very economic structure of today is 100% different than in Marx's era?
Among the major differences: ownership of production is no longer the primary economic basis of tyranny - it is financialization. Bankers literally produce nothing - they actually cause production to fall as verticals progress along the financialization path.
Secondly, a major unspoken assumption behind Marx's theories was the dichotomy between government ownership of production and private ownership of production.
Even in China, no government owns more than a small fraction of the productive capacity of any national economy today - very different than in Marx's era - and said owners of productive capacity act very differently when a nation vs. for profit.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 14 2020 17:00 utc | 312

@Smith #280
You can believe whatever you want, but the reality is that there was no human, present time arbiter of the Mandate of Heaven.
Everyone would invoke it - rebels would say the emperor lost the Mandate of Heaven, regime defenders would be defending the Mandate of Heaven, etc.
In this respect, it is like "democracy" - you are pro-democracy if you are adhering to American goals but anti-democracy if opposed.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 14 2020 17:04 utc | 313

@vk #292
I also post this because both Michael Hudson and Nitzan/Bichler address the re-feudalization issue - one which Marx largely assumed had been resolved in his time.
Feudal vs. Capitalist exploitation"

We must distinguish between capitalist exploitation as Marx understood it and feudal exploitation.

The former is an economic phenomenon, arising from capital’s greater economic power over labour. The labour market, thought Marx, was “a very Eden of the innate rights of man. There alone rule Freedom, Equality, Property and Bentham.” Such apparent liberal equality facilitated and disguised exploitation and oppression.

Feudal exploitation, by contrast, is more obvious. Markets play no role in it. Instead, as Ellen Meiksins Wood wrote:

When surplus labour has been appropriated by exploiters, it has been done by what Marx called “extra-economic” means- that is, by means of direct coercion, exercised by landlords or states employing their superior force, their privileged access to military, political and judicial power. (The Origin of Capitalism, p95-96)

Exploitation of this form is still widespread – perhaps increasingly so.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 14 2020 17:09 utc | 314

Lavrov at work, today 1:45 hr. interview with journalists from RT, Komsomolskaya Pravda, Govorit Moskva, Let us see what kind of pearls he dropped on this one since the previous one with the Valday Report certainly ruffled some feathers.

https://ria.ru/20201014/lavrov-1579692662.html

Posted by: Paco | Oct 14 2020 17:11 utc | 315

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/50/1201/388305/AlAhram-Weekly/Egypt/The-ClintonBrotherhood-connection-revealed.aspx

Clinton emails, nothing in the Western MSM?

Posted by: Mina | Oct 14 2020 17:33 utc | 316

After they got with their own with respect the Navalny hoax, involving the whole EU into their sanctions plan against Russia, the Bundeswehr doubles down with provocations...

https://twitter.com/elenaevdokimov7/status/1316220652894867458

More points to add to a rebuilt of the fallen Reich and the increasing possibility of another ...

All the more in a context of the US recently abandoning START Treaty...

And our representatives more pendant of their highly remunerated next posts in Brussels...

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Oct 14 2020 17:36 utc | 317

@Posted by: H.Schmatz | Oct 14 2020 17:36 utc | 317

...increasing possiiblity of another Blitzkrieg...with go out probably due incorrect HTML tag

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Oct 14 2020 17:39 utc | 318

@ Posted by: c1ue | Oct 14 2020 17:09 utc | 314

I've already discussed this article previously. Feudalism is not coming back. What happens is that capitalist exploitation has two devices: relative and absolute exploitation. The author the article you linked confounds absolute exploitation with feudal exploitation, which is a First World falsification of how capitalism works.

As capitalism stagnates and declines in the First World, its capitalist class will turn more and more to absolute exploitation. But this already was the rule in the Third World - even in the "golden years of capitalism" (post-war miracle), and nobody in the West was calling it "feudalism".

All in all, the effort to try to revive the term "feudalism" (or even neo-feudalism, as the woke left likes to use to designate the alt-right in the USA) is just a last - and desperate - attempt by the intelligentsia of the First World to try to save the dignity of the term "capitalism", to purge it from all the "impurities".

Posted by: vk | Oct 14 2020 17:46 utc | 319

@Posted by: Paco | Oct 14 2020 17:11 utc | 315

No way we could be aware of those pearls if hey do not translate this at least into English, which, for now, is the international imperial language...

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Oct 14 2020 17:50 utc | 320

Paco @292--

Thanks for that link! MFA has also produced an English version which I checked against the Russian for completeness, and they are the same. The following was his most significant statement at the outset:

"It is encouraging that the report includes a forecast, even though Fyodor Lukyanov has described it as utopian, that in 2045 the UN will celebrate its 100th anniversary. Despite criticism, which is quite often reasonable, the organisation is serving its purpose. It is thanks to the UN that a catastrophic conflict between great powers has been prevented. Even though it has quite a few obvious drawbacks, since human products and ideas tend to be flawed, yet there is no alternative to it. In our opinion, the UN-centred architecture based on the results of WWII still has a margin of safety and untapped creative potential, first of all when it comes to maintaining a global balance between the leading international players.

"It is also obvious to us that it is in the interests of the entire international community to remain committed to the fundamental principles of international law sealed in the UN Charter. It is often noted indeed that these principles have been violated, and quite frequently. But we don’t abandon traffic rules only because of regular road accidents, do we?

"I believe that what we need now is something different: we must work to ensure that all countries strictly comply with the norms and principles of international law and their obligations under international conventions, and to prevent the erosion of international law or its replacement with the rules-based order promoted by our Western partners, who even avoid using the very phrase 'respect for international law.' There are quite a few examples. We can see that these 'rules,' as I have pointed out more than once, are being created in a narrow circle of the so-called like-minded people without any consideration for the opinions of the international community or the universal norms of international law formalised in the UN Charter, numerous universal conventions and the statutes of specialised agencies. Like traffic rules, international law has been written in blood, as we are well aware, including the blood of those who fought during WWII and who defeated Nazism. This doesn’t make it any less significant. Quite to the contrary. I believe that those who do not respect international law are risking a great deal." [My Emphasis]

The emphasized text is something I've seen the need for well before the Wall fell. But how to enforce International Law when the most prolific outlaw is one of the nations charged with its upholding? 75 years of continuous lawbreaking becomes a habit--an addiction--so how to cure the addict? Indeed, unilateral behavior is one of the Outlaw US Empire's basic traits since the 1880s. Its behavior during the years of Dollar Diplomacy should have provided a warning of what would come when the bankers and merchants of death regained control of the federal government which became possible with the infiltration of the D-Party during WW2 and FDR's untimely death--the whipsaw action of policy change was very noticeable at the time for those watching. Even the hubristic rationale for that wasn't even classified--that the Cold War was cover for the Outlaw US Empire's continued consumption of over 60% of the world's resources while having only 4-5% of its population as expressed by George Kennan in 1948. At present, many indicators say the addict ought to be in the hospital, some might say hospice. I'd have liked to attend that Valdai Club meeting so I could ask Mr. Lavrov how are we going to get the Outlaw US Empire to behave in a non-criminal manner, since its malbehavior is the main source of the world's problems.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 14 2020 17:58 utc | 321

The paper presented at the Valdai Club, "History, To Be Continued: The Utopia of a Diverse World," to which Lavrov is responding to can be read here. Its authors see the pandemic as providing a fulcrum for a change in direction of international society:

"The COVID-19 pandemic has not upended the universe. The erosion of international rules and institutions created in the second half of the 20th-century, which survived the Cold War, albeit in a slightly modified form, began in the 21st century. COVID-19 has only stimulated the processes that emerged before it came into being; it has accelerated the evolution but failed to add to it anything fundamentally new. However, the pandemic’s scale and shocking impact on the habitual social and political relations have drawn a symbolic bottom line under the existence of one world order and ushered in another."

At 20 pages, it will take awhile to digest, more if one also surveys the seven previous papers linked to within this one as is suggested.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 14 2020 18:18 utc | 322

@smith&@vk

Mandate of Heaven no longer exist per se, but it still every much the foundation of PRC (and KMT too, but not the DPP). Too make it simple, Mandate of Heaven isn't just a (Chinese) state source of legitimacy but the very soul of its existence. A ruler of unified or even divided Chinese state make pledge to its people that it will protect their common interest, keeping stability, and fostering prosperity. A failure means a causus belli for any upstart force to make its own legitimacy over all China. It is a model, a form of statehood that is very much strange to our nation-state norm.

What I mean by nation-state is of course Westphallian nation-state. A state in Westphallian sense exist by itself. It's own existency is it's very own legitimacy. You might said prosperity is the source of nation-state legitimacy much like Mandate of Heaven. It isn't. At least not like it used to. You could see it in history where many impeverished state post-Westphallian treaty treat their citizenry like shit. Big peasant rebellion rarely ever made any regime change. This Westphallian view of state being an entity of itself pretty much reflected in Hegel's ideas.

I couldn't emphasize the importance of this more. In Mandate of Heaven, making your people happy is an obligation of the state. While for Westphallian nation-state, prosperity of the people is a just nice side effect from trying to make it ownself (the nation as an self-existing entity) wealthy.

This is also where I wanted to mention Confucianism and disagree with vk about its contemporary 'irrelevance'. Confucius was an avid bureaucrat and civil servant, albeit being failed one. His ethics stands upon the obligation of yourself to the state. Now combine this with Mandate of Heaven, this mean civil servant, and bureaucrat are expected to serve the interest of the state, thus the people, first. This is the form of Confucian ideal that still very much alive in China's today administration. Even more so with Xi Jinping's focus on rural development where he sends out (young) party cadre to directly helped people building their home. You wouldn't hear some civil servant or bureaucrat in the West (or most of nation-states really) that they wanted to serve the people. Mostly they do it for the job itself. While in China that is very common, if not actually something expected from the society out of them.

Posted by: hangar | Oct 14 2020 18:52 utc | 323

Well, some caritative soul over there posted the link to the video of Lavrov´s interview with 3 Russian major media with English simultaneous translation..so that we can taste the pearls...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGjZ2paYwTw&feature=youtu.be

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Oct 14 2020 19:17 utc | 324

@Posted by: H.Schmatz | Oct 14 2020 19:17 utc | 324

Interesting that, so far, the interview is only available with English translation at RT Deutschland...which, somehow informs who could be the main destinataries of the main pearls...

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Oct 14 2020 19:22 utc | 325

hangar@323,

Very well said about Mandate of Heaven. IMHO, it's similar to Chinese concept of Tian, which seems not easy to clearly describe it in western terminology.

Confucianism can also be considered as two parts- inward and outward (this is my interpretation). Inward is to improves one's own mind, behavior, and skills. Outward is to pursue public common good. However, that's an ideal. In practice, people primarily used the Four Books to pursue careers in government since Ming Dynasty adopted them for civil servant exam. Most people don't really seek for the inward part.

Thanks again for the good comments.

Posted by: LuRenJia | Oct 14 2020 19:43 utc | 326

Paco #300

I doubt that Navalny will return to Russia. He is a fizzer, which is slang for a fire cracker that failed to go bang but rather thrashed about for a few seconds making a hissing noise, then stopped.

Smith, your response to my art remark was obscure. Care to elaborate?
Like psychohistorian I too think you should earn you pieces of silver or are they perhaps bytes from your CPU?

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 14 2020 20:17 utc | 327

More disturbing public masturbation from king donkey rear .org. I wonder if the poster thinks readers find that impressive?

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 14 2020 20:41 utc | 328

H.Schmatz all of the above

Thank you for that comprehensive European report or perhaps a plea of anguish from Spain. All the more strength to your arm and may Spain find the way to revolt against the smothering of the dream. These are the times sent to try us all and to keep our eye on the collectivist prize.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 15 2020 0:29 utc | 329

King Lear #328

You regurgitate the same nonsense again!!!

Here again is my previous retort at #227


Thus, I advise that if you live in a “Safe” state (California, Texas, New York, etc.) either sit out or vote third party, However, if you live in a “Swing” state (Florida, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, etc) you should hold your nose and vote for Joe Biden, because though he is a shitty centrist, he is slightly better then Trump (both are promoters of “Covid-19” hysteria and the 4th industrial revolution though it can even be argued that Trump is even worse on these issues because of his “operation warp speed” push for a rushed vaccine) because he will reenter the Iran Nuclear deal (Thus stopping a War with Iran), not privatize Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid etc., and won’t sign anymore Tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations.

and your plea at #219 for some critique of #202

BS. Biden is no 'shitty centrist' - Biden is a far right loony war mongering Demonazi trans Repugnant.

'Slightly better than Trump' ?! You are off your meds for sure or your crown is kryptonite and has fried your brain. Have you paused to consider the bait and switch? Karma Harris is a warlord OK? PLUS she shills for Wall Street. Both of these scabrous teams are detestable and there are so few among them that have even one iota of credibility, that it is an affront to the world, an insult to the intelligence, a degradation of the concept of 'democracy' by any interpretation.

These two parties and their controllers are decrepit, late stage barnacles on the arse of humanity.

And you suggest that they are worth a vote?

There is so much in your post at 202 that should be refuted and challenged but take the Fort Detrick virus released/leaked sometime mid to late 2019 in NE USA. Do you seriously suggest that big pharma has only Trump by the short and curleys and not Biden and Harris by the same grip? They would both be rushing a vaccine to the public and both short cutting measured, cautious implementation. The behavior of the Demonazi leadership - take Pelosi - a perambulating piece of coprolite sounding off and doing nothing constructive with her House Majority. The Demonazis typified by the image of Bernie Sanders holding the left down on the ground and urging Schiff, Pelosi and Schumer to crap on the victim.

Vote Democrat King Lear? off to the guillotine with you.

Previously Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 13 2020 10:48 utc | 227

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 15 2020 0:42 utc | 330

@ Don Bacon,

I know you are trying to divide maritime ASEAN interests against each other, but this time it ain't working:
>MANILA, Philippines : Southeast Asian leaders said a 1982 U.N. oceans treaty should be the basis of sovereign rights and entitlements in the South China Sea, in one of their strongest remarks opposing China's claim to virtually the entire disputed waters on historical grounds.

>The leaders of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations took the position in a statement issued by Vietnam Saturday on behalf of the 10-nation bloc. ASEAN leaders held their annual summit by video on Friday, wi ..

>Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/asean-takes-position-against-chinas-vast-historical-sea-claims/articleshow/76660702.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

ASEAN is at least united on this issue.

And the fact ships are still going in the South East Asia sea doesn't mean there isn't dispute, fishermen of all countries are getting arrested over this scuttle.

This needs to be solved in a negotiation table, otherwise, China will never manage to ease ASEAN's hostility.

Posted by: Smith | Oct 15 2020 2:17 utc | 331

@vk #319
I disagree with your characterization of feudal exploitation vs. absolute exploitation.
Absolute exploitation would be outright slavery.
Feudal exploitation is the orientation of society around a feudal hierarchy. There is relatively little outright slavery, but there is a lot of rules-based economic (and outright) oppression.
Nor do I agree with your "Johnny come lately" characterization of feudal exploitation as used by the wokesters - that subclass is irrelevant.
Feudal exploitation furthermore predates capitalism.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 15 2020 16:21 utc | 332

I just had this post rejected by the FT twice (in slightly different forms) as against their rules.
The main gist was this ;

Sabaev is head of the acute poisoning department of the Omsk Emergency Hospital No. 1, chief toxicologist of the Omsk region and of the Siberian Federal District.

According to Sabaev, Navalny's blood levels were "six times higher than the norm for amylase, sugar and serum lactate; twice the normal level of leukocytosis, and the maximum level of acetonuria. In addition, alcohol (0.2 ppm) was found in the urine ...These are the metabolites, the substances which have been produced. These substances in large quantities cause pathological changes." According to Sabaev, "Navalny did not suffer from diabetes, so the tests showed that he had an acute metabolic disorder. 'An increase in the level of lactate and lactic acid, its excessive formation makes acidification of the blood. It should not be in such a quantity. There should be an indicator, let's say of 2; but we had an indicator of 12, that is six times more,' he said. According to the doctor, the level of internal acetone in Navalny's body was at maximum... Normally, acetone should be negative; that is, it should be excreted from the body, the specialist added. 'In this case, the carbohydrate metabolism suffered and completely different scenarios of development occurred. The body began to destroy itself from the inside."

It is clear that only posts accusing Russia will be allowed in the Navalny case. So what happened to the "right to reply to accusations" or something called "freedom of speech"? Don't bother to answer, I already know the reply.

Posted by: Stonebird | Oct 15 2020 16:21 utc | 333

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