Thanks for karlof1’s tip, here is some excerpts from Xi’s speech at 70th anniversary of Korean War commemoration at ChinaDaily.
These are a few “interesting” points:
– It is necessary to speak to invaders in the language they know: that is, a war must be fought to deter invasion, and violence must be met by violence.
– A victory is needed to win peace and respect.
– The Chinese nation will never cower before threats, or be subdued by suppression.
This may be for Taiwan and its boss:
– China will never allow its national sovereignty, security and development interests to be undermined. China will never allow any forces to violate or separate its sacred territory.
Sorry that I couldn’t find the full text though.

Posted by: LuRenJia | Oct 23 2020 13:13 utc | 103

@ arby
Great news!

Posted by: Smith | Oct 23 2020 13:43 utc | 105

NY Post with excerpts from Xi’s speech:
China’s President Xi takes jabs at US in Korean War commemoration

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 23 2020 13:56 utc | 107

“…how do you teach courage? How do you teach sacrifice for others? How do you teach cooperation and commitment? ”
Posted by: migueljose | Oct 23 2020 0:50 utc | 45
Experience is the best teacher. A hard and cruel teacher, but lessons are begining to be learned. And you are correct,miguel; you have given us four new freedoms, and the first one to practise is courage.
We are entering the age of experience.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 23 2020 14:43 utc | 109

@Hoyeru #69
I can’t say that I have experienced the same thing regarding lines in South/Central America as you – but my experience in that region is mostly Mexico, Brazil, Argentina and Panama (and the Caribbean).
Your experience in California is more to do with the localized ones than the actual original culture – is my guess.
As for China: There is no comparison between American capabilities and Chinese capabilities.
The American agencies record lots of data but have little to no direct intervention capability.
China’s Great Firewall, in contrast, employs literally hundreds of thousands of people. China can (and does) intercept a picture in transit and white it out of a WeChat message. China also literally monitors and blocks any and every site it dislikes coming into the country.
The actions by Google, Twitter and Facebook are moderate by comparison. American methods rely rather on the bullhorn (MSM) and co-option of the journalist class and companies via selective promotion.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 23 2020 14:54 utc | 111

m@89 I got a rather detailed explanation from a Russian friend who just spent several weeks there. Navalny started out as an anti corruption reformer but got involved with partners that figured out how to monetize the dirt he was digging up. This is over a period of years, not something recent. There is no conspiracy between the Russian government and the Germans. Navalny was not a threat to governmental power in Russia – this was strictly a business matter. See the RT article I linked to:
https://www.rt.com/russia/504238-berlin-dominates-europe-moscow/
and the Russian government is not happy about how the case was used by the Germans for their own ends.

Posted by: the pessimist | Oct 23 2020 15:04 utc | 113

Which are the dumbest false flags of recent memory?
My selections are:
#1) Journalist Arkady Babchenko – he gets every prize!
He faked his death, complete with blood soaked pictures,
and then showed up the next day alive at a news conference.
They should name a drink after him, “Noah’s Ark Ark Ark”- glacier water mixed
with glacier water, stirred not shaken.
#2) Saudi Intelligence Service – they air shipped printers
with incomplete bombs in them to the US and Britain from Yemen.
The Saudi agents revealed that they kept the tracking slips of the bombs!
I’ll drink to that. And the Saudis played heroes by providing the tracking
numbers to the US and Britain in the nick of time. And I’ll drink to that!
#3) Just this week CrowdStrike (yes, they still enjoy “credibility” in some circles)
let us know that Iranian hackers included a video with their email threats.
And that clever video:
“The video showed the hackers’ computer screen as they typed in commands to purportedly hack a voter registration system.
Investigators noticed snippets of revealing computer code, including file paths, file names and an internet protocol (IP) address.”
How does the Saudi Intelligence service say, “Skol!”?

Posted by: librul | Oct 23 2020 15:06 utc | 115

To Kadath | Oct 23 2020 2:18 utc | 56:
I agree with your assessment. Trump did terribly on wind power, but Biden was awful on North Korea, reminding us of the insulting manner in which the Obama administration conducted its ‘diplomacy’. Both defended fracking as if it were the best thing since sliced bread, and oh dear no, not medicare for all…socialism, aargh! So, Canada is a communist country?

Posted by: juliania | Oct 23 2020 15:08 utc | 117

@jared #102
Except that there were lots of credible people specifically speaking to the consequences of free trade – like Ross Perot running for President in 1992 and 1996 on specifically a platform concerned about the consequences of said free trade.
Krugman is known primarily for being prolific on social media and his NYT column – the literal definition of the bullhorn attached to a bullshit artist.
I’ve considered him a dumbass since at least 2001.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 23 2020 15:20 utc | 119

Time To Mute The President. Former Twitter and Google Executive Calls For Trump To Be Banned From Social Media Until After The Election.
Jonathan Turley. https://tinyurl.com/yybpol6g
The ‘most powerful man’ in the World, the story is, the Prez. of the USA, should be banned from popular social platforms. Not the Onion or what ?!
The challenger is? The winner might be…?
The challenger is the GAFAM (1), the nexus of control of communication power. The mere existence of the public defiance (censorship real + threatened for future) makes them winners.
Trump doesn’t control large Media Corps. The MSM has thrown in its lot with ‘Dems’ since a long time (dates ..?), via funding, deals, corruption, etc.
Media types are by nature part of the credentialised class, totally removed from primary production, essential services, aka the ‘deplorables’ the low paid workers; plus ignorant of the top tiers of ressource management (e.g. Oil Cos., fracking, electrics, phys. com. networks, chip production, Mega-Agri, even airplane industry, etc.) They are the superficial froth on the top of the cake and like to ignore and debase the cake.. which btw ensures their lives and comfort. By nature, indoctrination and necessity, they focus on control of information, narrative, propaganda, the shaping tool(s), which are under their hands, their self-image as controllers and ‘shapers’ is all they have — until the SHTF.
1. GAFAM = google apple facebook amazon microsoft. In Europe, often GAFA minus microsoft.

Posted by: Noirette | Oct 23 2020 15:58 utc | 121

Russ @76
Thank you for a common sense reply to an insane suggestion. Some people cannot resist the idea of forcing others to do what they don’t want to do. Lately such people appear to all be on the Left.
Personally I’m waiting for Bruce Willis to take on Covid 19 singlehandedly and defeat the bad virus once and for all. Then after, Terry Gilliam could make a movie about it.

Posted by: EoinW | Oct 23 2020 16:29 utc | 123

Tannhouser @2
Welcome to Gotterdammerung!
Thanks for posting that. It’s provocative, if nothing else. Great for an open discussion.
Though the wish list seems plausible, the thought that crossed my mind is: “is any government competent enough to pull any of this off”? Perhaps the Chinese Communist Party, however the CCP is the most anti-freedom political party on the planet. The only people admiring it are either members of the party or they do not have to live under CCP rule. Seeing we’re talking about the Canadian Liberal Party, whose specialty is corruption, I have little fear of them successfully prosecuting any complex plan.
ID @7
Even if the article is pure fiction, it is still relevant, therefore has value. Case in point the independent MPP who accused the government of building interment camps. Even if totally wrong, he did the public good by forcing the government to state publicly that they were not building such camps. Sure politicians can still lie, however by making the issue public makes it more difficult for them to do so.
I wish someone would accuse the government of planning mandatory vaccines. So far the only western leader with the decency to state he will NOT force citizens to be vaccinated is Donald Trump.

Posted by: EoinW | Oct 23 2020 16:44 utc | 125

@ russ – GAFAM… thanks for explaining that abbreviation..

Posted by: james | Oct 23 2020 16:45 utc | 127

@74 Paco and @78 Russ, i.e….two birds with one stone
You forgot the disclaimer: According to the Russian-edited version of the debate Trump won the debate.
While 53% of Americans believe Biden won and 39% for Trump.
So I was right earlier: Biden B- Trump D
And since Russians don’t get a say….oh, wait…

Posted by: Circe | Oct 23 2020 16:52 utc | 129

Latest from the cow boys: the US have forced the temporary authorities of Sudan to accept a normalization with Israel in exchange of removing them from the list of states who support terrorism. No matter that these authorities have been put in place temporarily by the people who demonstrated for a year and that the temporary constitution then signed excludes the possibility of signing such deals. No problem either with the fact this government is not the one against whom the sanctions were taken.
A few days ago, the US was asking Sudan to pay a fine of 335 million dollars for their hosting people who had organized attacks against them.
Sickening.

Posted by: Mina | Oct 23 2020 17:04 utc | 131

EoinW | Oct 23 2020 16:29 utc | 123
“Personally I’m waiting for Bruce Willis to take on Covid 19 singlehandedly and defeat the bad virus once and for all. Then after, Terry Gilliam could make a movie about it.”
Wasn’t there a movie about making a bunch of lunatics think they actually were playing roles in a movie so that when it was shouted “Cut! That’s a wrap!”, they’d all forget their lunacy and go home?
If that would only work in real life…
Of course, being a key part of the Propaganda Ministry, Hollywood is fully on board with all the globalist assaults on humanity.

Posted by: Russ | Oct 23 2020 17:09 utc | 133

The Q & A portion of Putin’s Valdai Club Speech transcript have been posted, and they run longer than his speech. In his first query, I completely agree with Putin that too many people have yet to learn the fundamental lesson the pandemic ought to have taught:
“However, the pandemic is playing into our hands when it comes to raising our awareness of the importance of joining forces against severe global crises. Unfortunately, it has not yet taught humanity to come together completely, as we must do in such situations.”
But his answer wasn’t directed at ignorant citizens. Putin’s ire was directed at the Outlaw US Empire:
“I am not referring now to all these sanctions against Russia; forget about that, we will get over it. But many other countries that have suffered and are still suffering from the coronavirus do not even need any help that may come from outside, they just need the restrictions lifted, at least in the humanitarian sphere, I repeat, concerning the supply of medicines, equipment, credit resources, and the exchange of technologies. These are humanitarian things in their purest form. But no, they have not abolished any restrictions, citing some considerations that have nothing to do with the humanitarian component – but at the same time, everyone is talking about humanism.
“I would say we need to be more honest with each other and abandon double standards. I am sure that if people hear me now on the media, they are probably finding it difficult to disagree with what I have just said, difficult to deny it. Deep down in their hearts, in their minds, everyone is probably thinking, ‘Yes, right, of course.’ However, for political reasons, publicly, they will still say, ‘No, we must keep restrictions on Iran, Venezuela, against Assad.’ What does Assad even have to do with this when it is ordinary people who suffer? At least, give them medicines, give them technology, at least a small, targeted loan for medicine. No.” [My Emphasis]
If I could speak to Putin, I’d tell him that they have no hearts, they are soulless, completely bereft of any sense of morality, and cannot be reasoned with whatsoever. They are ghouls, incapable of being shamed or made to feel guilt. You look at them and see a human, but they’re not human at all; they are parasites cloaked in human form. They differ little from the Nazis of 75+ years ago and need to be eliminated once and for all. The pandemic has fully exposed them for what they are.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 23 2020 17:17 utc | 135

@Piotr Berman | Oct 23 2020 17:24 utc | 136

For example, if you have a red light for pedestrians and no incoming cars, Danes (where I observed) wait for the green, and Norwegians cross the street.

LOL, Confirmed! We have common sense. Indeed there are differences.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 23 2020 17:33 utc | 137

@134 Has anybody seen a comment yet from the Honorable Chrystia Freeland or the Lima Group regarding the election result in Bolivia? Maybe they are too busy strangling Venezuela.

Posted by: dh | Oct 23 2020 17:43 utc | 139

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 23 2020 17:17 utc | 135
Yes, the question and answer segment was a lot more prolific and one could tell that Putin is way more at ease speaking freely than just reading a statement, I thought he was a bit off balance at the beginning when exposing his message, that changed when asked openly and from journalists all over the world about current world problems. A sharp contrast with the way US politicians keep their discussions within a very restricted framework, with a lot of false assumptions taken for granted, like we are number one, we are the light on the hill, we are democratic, we help countries destroying them, etc etc., That’s why the Biden lapsus of “we liked Hitler” resonated, it is true, Adolf was adored by the elites in the UK and some in the US. Comparing Putin’s participation in the forum and the presidential debate in the US, even though I did not watch it completely except for some highlights, it is like comparing a master class with a primary school lesson, minus the innocence of children.
But the papers of reference just quote the most malicious parts of a three hour talk, like the pun of “do not wait for Russia’s demise, we might get a cold at your burial”, so as to reinforce Putin’s image as the bogey man, the punk that we must get rid of. Let me add to the list of western politicians missing humanity traits the one I think is more obvious, they lack any brains.

Posted by: Paco | Oct 23 2020 18:25 utc | 141

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 23 2020 17:17 utc | 135

If I could speak to Putin, I’d tell him that they have no hearts, they are soulless, completely bereft of any sense of morality, and cannot be reasoned with whatsoever. They are ghouls, incapable of being shamed or made to feel guilt. You look at them and see a human, but they’re not human at all; they are parasites cloaked in human form. They differ little from the Nazis of 75+ years ago and need to be eliminated once and for all. The pandemic has fully exposed them for what they are.

Do you seriously believe that Putin and “his regime” don’t already know that?

Posted by: tucenz | Oct 23 2020 18:54 utc | 143

Posted by: Paul | Oct 23 2020 18:13 utc | 140
Shooting civilians out of hand started with the Americans in Iraq, and influenced other allies, like Australia and UK. Treating the local population like pieces of dirt became the norm. there are lots of videos showing exactly that.
It’s a good part of the reason that the US lost in Iraq and Afghanistan. But it’s over now. The US lost. It’s only a question now of havering until the conditions are right. But in the end the Taliban will be in power in the south; I’m not up to date about the north.

Posted by: Laguerre | Oct 23 2020 19:08 utc | 145

Laguerre @145–
The crime you speak of has existed for thousands of years. At least humanity has progressed to the point where we view such acts of depravity as the crimes they are, but they don’t get prosecuted as much as the must.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 23 2020 19:15 utc | 147

It is rare that anything Karlof1 says needs amending but his last paragraph @ 135 in which he says that politicians of the Outlaw Empire of the US and its satrapies differ little from the Nazis needs correcting: these people ARE Nazis and moreover, in the case of Canada’s deputy prime minister Chrystia Freeland, descended from them.

Posted by: Jen | Oct 23 2020 19:50 utc | 149

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 23 2020 15:02 utc | 112 overall US mortality in the CNN report was 20% above normal but COVID-19 is only 2/3rds of the excess deaths?
I am quite well aware of that.
“The normal logical person’s conclusion is that there are other factors going on.”
Which, again, is quite obvious and was discussed in the articles I read.
As to the question of whether those deaths caused by the lockdown or lack of medical care due to the pandemic outweigh the deaths and serious illness caused by the virus itself, no one knows the answer to that and will not until probably years from now when everything has been tallied up – if it ever is. Your presumption that you already know that is bullshit.
But it is irrelevant because the US was unprepared for the pandemic, did not handle it properly once it did occur in comparison to the Asian and some Western states, and the lockdown was the result of that failure – not the pandemic itself. And the excess deaths by other causes are also the result of that failure to provide the necessary mechanisms to test, trace, and isolate – which continue to be failures.
Your original statement remains illogical and an attempt to deny the seriousness of the pandemic, despite your attempts to walk it back.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Oct 23 2020 19:55 utc | 151

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Oct 23 2020 19:55 utc | 151
According to the French reports I’ve read, the new crisis is due to a mild variant, where nobody dies, since replaced by a more serious variant where there could be death, but not yet seen in the figures. i.e. you should isolate, nothing else to do.

Posted by: Laguerre | Oct 23 2020 20:25 utc | 153

The Mexican Representative at the OAS, Maximiliano Reyes Zúñiga, has asked for the resignation of Secretary General Luis Almagro for his complicity in promoting the Morales election as fraudulent.
Let’s see how many other members will do the same. Let’s see how many
Latin American leaders have a spine.
https://venesol.org/2020/10/22/le-mexique-demande-la-demission-de-luis-almagro-a-la-tete-de-loea/

Posted by: CarlD | Oct 23 2020 23:07 utc | 155

@karlof1, 21:31 Oct 23, 154
It wasn’t a sport. The use of scalp hunters to motivate privatised, commercialised campaigns through the issuance of scalp bounties was part of the first American way of war which also included extirpative war making (attack Indian villages and homes, kill Indian women and children, raze Indian fields and destroy food stores and/or kill Indian food sources like buffalo), and the creation of specialised units for Indian fighting(rangers). (see “the First Way of War: American War Making on the Frontier by John Grenier, 2005).

Posted by: cirsium | Oct 23 2020 23:21 utc | 157

@ Lag. 148
Normally occupied civilians are not stomped out like vermin, but that was what happened in Iraq
Recent US wars have not been “normal” they have been a war on terror where anything goes because anyone even suspected of being anti-American could be killed, in Iraq and Afghanistan especially. (Which often morphed into killing just for the fun of it.)
Specifically, these were not countries taken over by a dastardly foreign force, to be liberated by the US. These were regime-change wars (as were the wars on native Americans BTW) with lots of anti-American citizens who wanted the US out of their countries. Soldiers were getting their legs (and other parts) blown off riding around in regular vehicles, so special armored vehicles were required to protect them from insurgents____terrorists____extremists___ (fill in the blanks, anything will do)
Vietnam was an earlier case of this type, which reminds of one of my favorite quotes:
“One day while I was in a bunker in Vietnam, a sniper round went over my head. The person who fired that weapon was not a terrorist, a rebel, an extremist, or a so-called insurgent. The Vietnamese individual who tried to kill me was a citizen of Vietnam, who did not want me in his country. This truth escapes millions.” –Mike Hastie, U.S. Army Medic, Vietnam 1970-71

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 23 2020 23:32 utc | 159

Pilgrims again, with Thanksgiving coming up.
–from Smithsonian….
The Myths of the Thanksgiving Story and the Lasting Damage They Imbue . .”Wampanoags today remember the Pilgrims’ entry to their homeland as a day of deep mourning, rather than a moment of giving thanks.”

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 23 2020 23:56 utc | 161

@155 There is a considerable move now to get Almagro out. The Puebla Group certainly wants him gone.
https://www.plenglish.com/index.php?o=rn&id=61055&SEO=puebla-group-requests-luis-almagros-resignation
Still no statement about Bolivia from Justin Trudeau or the Honorable Chrystia Freeland.

Posted by: dh | Oct 24 2020 1:43 utc | 163

We might… but the proverbial *they* are definitely not “done”. I am experiencing first hand the broad effect of the measures being implemented, it was hard to imagine those “in theory”. For months I have been very cautiously lauding the precautionary measures, congratulating myself for living in a country which against some considerable odds tentatively achieved very reasonable results.
It has now become very clear to me how the breath, length and term of these measures go beyond anything that can be found reasonable. I’ll avoid bothering barflies with details, the summary is this: you get a flu, the same exact symptoms you may have had in past and the world around you turns upside down, it is simply unbelievable the amount of wasted human and material resources that are triggered once you are triaged to be processed. UNBELIEVABLE. It hits all levels, the state, the company you work for, your colleagues, friends and your own. Akin to a butterfly effect which flaps an hurricane not at its antipode but around itself.
I am observing ~2500 a day currently with a persistent but increasing cumulative of ~44000, adding contacts under suspicion an additional ~57000 in a country of ~10M, ~6M of which are at working age. That is a total of ~100000, 2 weeks ago that number was ~75000, a month ago ~62000. It hits social security coffers like nothing before, it blocks entire departments within companies, delays/kills entire projects, closes down entire companies… If we are lucky to reach a peak in a month we are threatening around 5% of the full workforce being prevented from work by then with all its consequences, a proportion of which lost forever. With a possible 10% affected by the end of the wave. But that is if we’re lucky.
If this is the best that this civilization has come up to deal with COVID-19, we’ve learned nothing, we deserve our fate.
I respect a lot of the barflies here, and specially to those that have apparently made their mind about this and how necessary all of this is: save for a final judgement and please don’t let your guard down.

Posted by: Vasco da Gama | Oct 24 2020 2:13 utc | 165

Posted by: arby | Oct 22 2020 19:00 utc | 8 — “”Here are the consequences of the war for the people of Syria.”
“It became necessary to destroy Syria to save it for democracy” says the ghastly ghouls of Washington, as they reprise My Lai.

Posted by: kiwiklown | Oct 24 2020 5:19 utc | 167

EoinW | Oct 24 2020 1:49 utc | 164
“I will conclude with one final point: people who die of Covid 19 have not been murdered by anyone. That’s total immature nonsense to blame politicians you don’t like for Covid 19 deaths. This is the big difference between the pandemic and lockdowns. The latter commits harm that is man made. It also guarantees the death of our free society. Is that really worth it? Isn’t it better to accept that death is a fact of life and be grateful that this pandemic is killing less than 1% of the population? We’d be getting off pretty light if our governments were not destroying the society they were suppose to protect.”
Yes, no one knows enough truth to so grossly violate the ethical commandment, “First Do No Harm”, the way every interventionist always does. 2020 demonstrates the most extreme violence history has ever known perpetrated by those that claim to know enough truth to inflict such violence on every part of human life.
As always the most vulnerable elements – our inner feelings, our self-respect and self-confidence, our personal relationships, our ability to form such relationships in the first place, our attempts to rebuild human community amid such a hostile sociopathic commodified habitat – are the most vulnerable to this totalitarian violence.
This site and most of its commenters, and the great majority of such former “dissident” posers, having morphed overnight from erstwhile “anti-imperialists” to born-again imperialists, are most typical in their new love of the gospel of “humanitarian intervention”. That’s what was supposed to be happening in Libya or Syria? Burn down the village in order to save it? Forget that – we’ll burn to ashes what’s left of the very human soul in order to save the husk.
Of course the human body never was in the slightest special danger – it was obvious from early on that covid’s actual effects were well within the range of the normal flu’s effects. There was a brief spike of excess deaths in the spring and since then it plummeted back to the norm and will not go back up.
https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps
The “pandemic” such as it ever was, has been over since late spring. That’s why the cultists have to resort to semantic distortions and misdirections (shrieking about alleged new “cases” where they mean non-symptomatic infections, detected by what’s universally known to be an unreliable test, and which numbers if accurate simply reflect the inexorable progress of herd immunity, while fraudulently implying significant numbers of people are dying when this is really not happening anywhere nor will it ever happen) and outright lies, while regressing to the most infantile flat-earthism in parroting over and over, “I believe because it’s absurd…I believe because it’s absurd…”
I do disagree with this: “people who die of Covid 19 have not been murdered by anyone.”
A large majority of the deaths have been among the vulnerable – aged and already sick from usually multiple pre-existing conditions – concentrated in care facilities. We said from the start that these concentrated vulnerable should have been protected while the rest of society continued its prior routine with no changes. The lockdown assaults did the exact radical opposite of what should have been done – all of society was needlessly subjected to totalitarian assault while protecting the vulnerable is the one thing the lockdowns did NOT do.
Since health care personnel continued to traipse in and out of these otherwise segregated facilities with no special decontamination measures being applied, thus predictably infiltrating the virus into these facilities, those in charge of these facilities and the regulations affecting them are guilty at least of mass manslaughter. When we consider how NY’s governor Cuomo and others in the US and UK and probably elsewhere deliberately ordered that patients known to be infected be placed in these same “segregated” care facilities, negligence turns into deliberate mass murder.
So the actual brief death spike of spring 2020, to the extent that it does represent bona fide covid-19 deaths, tallies a Nazi-style euthanasia campaign perpetrated by governments, in order to get rid of useless eaters as well as to drum up a death toll which could meet the requirements of the insanely hyperbolic propaganda about a fake “lethal pandemic”.
If it wasn’t for this massacre in the care facilities, there never would have been any pronounced covid spike at all.
And to conclude by saying again, this massacre in the care facilities was a one-off event. There never will be another significant covid death wave, except of course for the much worse and greater arc of death from the lockdowns themselves, as is borne out by the comparable record of the post-USSR socioeconomic collapse and assault by the same Western neoliberals that now are the impresarios of the terror-lockdown assault that uses covid as a pretext.
https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2020/10/22/against-the-corona-panic-part-xviii-lessons-from-no-lockdown-belarus-on-the-wuhan-corona-flu-wave-the-total-mortality-impact-is-in-line-with-previous-peak-flu-waves-and-dwarfed-by-effects-of-soviet/
And of course whatever death spike is going to be caused by whatever shoddy profit-seeking “vaccine” is rushed to market and forced upon as many sheeple as possible.
We know the infinite malignity of the government and corporate elites, we know the vileness of the Covid Death Cult, and we know that no level of death and suffering is too much for them.

Posted by: Russ | Oct 24 2020 6:57 utc | 169

@Don Bacon | Oct 23 2020 23:43 utc | 160

Speaking of Pilgrims & natives, I just finished a fascinating book on pre-Columbus native Americans. “1491, new revelations of the Americas before Columbus” by Charles C. Mann.

That kind of topic is indeed extremely interesting. I would like to make 2 comments.
The first comment one is the typical one you might expect from someone like me. Years ago I also read a book about America before Columbus. It is written by the norwegian Kåre Prytz and is called “Vestover før Columbus” (translated: “Westwards before Columbus”). I am going to re-read that book I think.
From memory, the book makes several claims, some of them might be considered speculative (including the claim that Columbus was indeed in North America, however not in 1491 but in 1477 in today’s Canada, following information from Ireland). Other interesting revelations in the book is that there was knowledge (stories/maps) in europe about the existence of a continent in the West well before Columbus and well before the vikings.
As we all know the Norseman Leiv Eiriksson is supposed to be the discoverer of America, we have proof of this with the viking settlements in L’Anse aux Meadows at Newfoundland as uncovered in the 1960s by Helge Ingstad. However, the first norseman to observe the amercan continent was not Leiv Eiriksson, but instead Bjarne Herjulfsson in the year 986 when sailing from Iceland to Greenland, he drifted off course and saw the new land west of Greenland as told in “Flatøyboken”.
There is much more in that book by Prytz. There is also references to the norse sagas with detailed descriptions of a location that matches the coast otside today’s Boston. After all, if the vikings were able to sail from Norway to Iceland, from Iceland to Greenland and from Greenland to Newfoundland, who seriously believe they stopped there?
The second comment is maybe more in line with what your book describe about the Aztecs in Mexico and also the mysterious Olmecs that predate the Aztecs, producing huge basalt stone heads, some with disctinct african-looking features. Clearly, there were advanced societies in america well before the arrival of the europeans.
You can also take the inkas of south america into account, and if you do that you might find they are also predated by some other cultures that seem to be highly developed. In the core of Machu Picchu in Peru you find stone construction that is very different and much more precise than the rest of the place. The Inkas were impressive stone builders, but they built around something more advanced and older than themselves. The same story repeats itself in other places like Ollantaytambo and not to mention Puma Punku across the border to Bolivia. These places seem to have been subject to a “major upheaval” at some point, and much later the Inkas arrived to reclaim/rebuild them.
Then add the existence of something that seems irrelevant to the above: The Carolina Bays, i.e. elliptical depressions in the landscape of the Carolinas in the US. In fact there are hundreds of thousands of these very large (several hundred meters) depressions along the east coast of the US, and they all have common traits. They are mathematical ellipses with very similar eccentricities and with their long axes systematically oriented largely in the same direction. Similar depressions can be found in Nebraska, but now the main axes are rotated.
Antonio Zamora makes an excellent argument in “Mechanism for the creation of the Carolina Bays” that these features are secondary impacts of ice boulders creating conical depressions later relaxed to become elliptical conic sections today known as Carolina Bays. The story goes that about 12800 years ago, Canada and northern US was covered by the 4km thick Laurentide ice sheet and the ice sheet was struck by a comet or asteroid fragment over today’s Michigan (Saginaw Bay). The location can be determined by the Nebraska basins/Carolina Bay long axis orientations. The elliptical eccentricities determine the impact angles and therefore also the launch angles and flight times. In short, huge ice boulders bombarded all of today’s USA east of the Rockies, wiped out the megafauna and caused the Younger Dryas cold period that lasted 1200 years. It took thousands of years to re-establish civilizations after that, i.e. the Inkas, Olmecs and Aztecs. But in the south we can find signs that these people were not the originals, someone with significant technology was there before them, but all we have is literally carved in stone.
On a personal level, I have a friend from Peru who travelled to Bolivia and Tiwanaku/Puma Punku and showed me his pictures of the very unique “keystone cuts” you can find there and some very few other places in the world. By coincidence, I travelled last year to see Angkor Wat in Cambodia and observed there with my own eyes pretty much identical “keystone cuts” in the foundation of that ancient temple area (the whole area is the size of a modern city…). A straight line between those two locations go right through the globe, they are almost exactly opposite locations on the planet.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 24 2020 8:18 utc | 171

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 23 2020 18:58 utc | 144 — “The citation Martyanov supplies from the book IMO proves Russophobia was never about Communism but about Capitalist Imperialism….”
Ever since their earliest days, the US is all about eating other people’s lunches. Today, with only 4% of global population, they demand to consume 40% of global resources. Americans demand 10X their share of global resources, by hook or by crook, but more typically by crooked means.
First they ate the native americans’ lunch, then hawaii, mexico (a huge chunk thereof), philippines (for a season, to grow bananas, LOL), korea (that one got stuck in their throats), vietnam (they had to vomit that one out), afghanistan (the poppies are growing well, thank you very much), the middle east (crime in progress), and now….. Russia?!!?!?!?!? and China?!?!?!?!!!
What entitled, arrogant, grubby little snots they are (with apologies to good Americans, educated Americans, truth-speaking Americans, realist Americans, eg. you karlof1).
At the end of GATS (the Great American Toilet Swirling), US living standards just might slip by a huge 90%, but Americans will hardly notice, because the Great Denouement will be gradual. And how will it feel at that point? Just look at NZ where I live now: everything costs more than anywhere in the world, even neighbouring Australia (food, building materials, LED lights, high-techie things, DIY things)…. but kiwis do not notice, yet think they are a modern, happening nation. That will be what the US will feel like in future.
Aliexpress, anyone? Made-In-China bullet trains, anyone?

Posted by: kiwiklown | Oct 24 2020 8:52 utc | 173

Let me be devil’s advocate on that one.
In all history, nations have called the others barbarians since ever, the greeks with the celts, the romans with the germans, the chinese with the xiongnu/mongolian/manchurian, the japanese with the portugese/westerners…
These accusations only come usually when the so-called barbarians start to eclipse/threaten the civilized, but it’s ultimately meaningless because the barbarians usually prevail.

Posted by: Smith | Oct 24 2020 10:01 utc | 175

Smith @ 175:
The Tokugawa shogunate in Japan threw out the Portuguese and ceased all contact with the outside world – apart from the Dutch who were allowed to trade only at Nagasaki – when they realised that Japanese peasant-folk were not only learning how to use guns and buying them, but also learning how to make firearms, and the threat that armed and dangerous peasant masses posed to their rule and to the samurais who were supposed to defend the shogun and the daimyo (the landed gentry).
The Battle of Nagashino in 1575 by rival groups to claim the shogunate was fought with firearms to defeat cavalry using strategies that the film director Akira Kurosawa adopted for his film “Ran” when staging a battle between two rival brothers’ armies.

Posted by: Hor, Jennifer | Oct 24 2020 10:48 utc | 177

@ Hor, Jennifer
Firearms were well used by japanese during that time, the expulsion of foreigners by the japanese, similar to the chinese and vietnamese at the times were the fact that foreigners, especially christian missionaries start to make trouble against the existing regime/government.
The Shimabara rebellion (infamous due to Makai Tensho) and the Taiping Tian Guo can be used as examples of christian missionaries/theology inciting rebellion, which of course, cannot be tolerated.

Posted by: Smith | Oct 24 2020 11:02 utc | 179

America Keeps Getting Attacked By Nations It Hates In Ways Only The CIA Can See

Posted by: arby | Oct 24 2020 12:42 utc | 181

America, YOU FAT.
Latest news from Russia. Diabetics are 10 times more likely to come down with covid-19. More than 27% of covid cases in Russia are diabetics.
Of course here in the exceptional nation fat shaming is not allowed. Cannot be mentioned directly or indirectly. Politically incorrect. Say one word about it and at best you must be a trumptard. Deplorable. Irredeemable. Cancelled.
Also as a matter of course medical knowledge from those Soviets is all disinformation.

Posted by: oldhippie | Oct 24 2020 12:59 utc | 183

@ vk
Now that’s interesting, how were the feudal kingdoms and the various empires in Antiquity and the ME not a “state”?
Of course, you must define a “state” first.

Posted by: Smith | Oct 24 2020 13:32 utc | 185

@ Norwegian 171
Yes, the pre-Columbian era is interesting. I lived a while on Cape Cod, Massachusetts, and there was an area (now built over with houses) where the Vikings have been said to have landed.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 24 2020 14:10 utc | 187

@ Jen 176
Valley of Mexico . .Mississippi River valley . .etc
Yes there are many stories like that in “1491” — along the Amazon River, Peru, etc. Also in New York the native tribes had a truly democratic society, with females handling the politics and males doing the security duties.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 24 2020 14:13 utc | 189

Time to Flee? Áñez Asks US For 350 Visas After Arce’s victory
“With the victory of the Movement Towards Socialism (MAS) in the Bolivian elections on October 18, the de facto coup government presided over by Jeanine Áñez, has requested visas from the United States for its officials according to a US-based network.”

Posted by: arby | Oct 24 2020 14:29 utc | 191

@kiwiklown 174
It is easier to shoot them . . .
It’s believed that most natives died from disease.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 24 2020 14:31 utc | 193

@Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 24 2020 14:11 utc | 188
“Yet we hear that the Chinese people are oppressed and unhappy with their autocratic leaders. If that’s so, then why do the Chinese return from their world-leading 166 million annual outbound tourism trips (2019)?”
Undoubtedly the CIA/DoS-controlled propaganda media would have a ready answer to that. Something like [cue the Wolf Blitzer breathless delivery] ‘CNN has just obtained photographic evidence that over 480 million family members of Chinese international tourists were held hostage under brutal conditions last year in prison camps in Xinjiang Province to ensure their travelling relatives would return …’

Posted by: gm | Oct 24 2020 15:17 utc | 195

@ arby
Definitely not principled fighters, these people.
Or they just run out of funding because of this election year.

Posted by: Smith | Oct 24 2020 17:29 utc | 197

@EoinW, 180

I still do not consider it murder – not even what Cuomo did. I’d say it was simply incompetence.

I agree that it is not murder. Is it not an example of “depraved indifference”? Sending an old, sick person, suffering from a highly infectious disease, out of hospital back to a nursing home which is not a hospital is not only depriving them of care but also putting the susceptible residents at risk. The politicians who ordered the move, the managers who facilitated the move and the doctors involved should be prosecuted for culpable homicide (Scots Law). The doctors should also be struck off for breaching their Hippocratic oath (do no harm). Are these people modern examples of “desk killers”?
thank EoinW and Russ for an interesting discussion

Posted by: cirsium | Oct 24 2020 18:20 utc | 199