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September 20, 2020

The MoA Week In Review - Open Thread 2020-75

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:

> Asked whether the US is considering the possibility of appointing Dahlan, who lives in the UAE, as the next Palestinian leader, Friedman replied: "We're thinking about it," but we have no desire to engineer the Palestinian leadership. <
> Bad, bad times, made worse by one old woman’s selfish disregard for everyone else. If that offends you, so be it. Important people don’t get “don’t say bad things about the dead” when everyone else has to suffer because of their decisions. <
Michael Tracey @mtracey - 0:01 UTC · Sep 20, 2020

After the death of R.B. Ginsburg (87) the US political system falls into disarray. J. Biden (78) and D. Trump (74) declare the future of the nation is at stake. N. Pelosi (80) is bereft with grief. M. McConnell (78) plots his strategy. Spring chicken C. Schumer (69) vows revenge

Other issues:

Stephen F. Cohen has died. He was the one U.S. scholars who really knew and made sense of Russia.

Assange trial:


Must read:

  • How the west lost - Anatol Lieven / Prospect Magazine
    After the long stand-off against communism, victory seemed as total as it was sudden. But the west has since fractured and is now losing prestige and influence—does the reversal expose a moral defeat?
> This was coupled with the belief that good relations with China could be predicated on China accepting a so-called “rules-based” international order in which the US set the rules while also being free to break them whenever it wished; something that nobody with the slightest knowledge of Chinese history should have believed. <


Boeing 737 MAX:

> Another new document reveals that in a June 2016 flight test, the Boeing test pilot had trouble completing a slow speed test needed for certification because MCAS kept kicking in. Engineers noted how MCAS was “observed ratcheting” up the angle of the horizontal tail with repeated activation. Another engineer in the email exchange asks “What happens when we have faulty Angle of Attack”?

Other documents startlingly tie together two previously known events.

In a meeting on March 30, 2016, Keith Leverkuhn, the Boeing vice president who headed the MAX program, formally approved an expansion of MCAS to allow it to activate at low speed.

This required removing what had previously been a necessary activation trigger for the software — a high G force. From that point on, MCAS was activated solely by a high angle of attack and was given more authority to move the horizontal tail. <

Use as open thread ...

Posted by b on September 20, 2020 at 15:00 UTC | Permalink

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thanks b... lots of great articles and links to explore.. much appreciated... on a personal note, i will be away for a week... cheers james

Posted by: james | Sep 20 2020 15:48 utc | 1

UK on its knees:

Matt Hancock: Britain is at coronavirus tipping point

Remember, kids: it's not authoritarian/totalitarian when it's a Western Democracy doing it:

‘Tinpot dictator’: UK health secretary pilloried for saying he would snitch on neighbors who snub Covid-19 guidelines

Trump gives "blessing" to U.S. TikTok partnership with Oracle and Walmart


Berlin dodges police racism probe after cops caught sharing Nazi content, saying GERMAN PEOPLE need investigation instead

“A study that deals exclusively with the police and accusations of structural racism within the police will not be carried out by me,” Interior Minister Horst Seehofer told the Bild am Sonntag newspaper.

We're not asking you to do a sociological study on modern German society, Horst. We're asking you to investigate on a potential neonazi paramilitary organization/cult. See the difference or do I need to draw it for you?


Wealth of US billionaires has risen by nearly a third during pandemic

Meanwhile, the First World petite-bourgeoisie are using their AR-15s to gun down imaginary BLM rioters while lobbying for the immediate and unconditional lifting of lockdowns. Can't get more insane than that.


OECD: it's China and the rest:

OECD has upgraded its forecasts for world real GDP growth since its last forecast in May


Venezuela Blasts ‘Politicized’ Report by UN ‘Ghost Mission’


China doesn't pretend to make the same mistakes as the USSR:

Why must Chinese tech firms ‘go out?’


The REAL reason the West is degenerating:

More on a world rate of profit

Recommend reading in full.

Posted by: vk | Sep 20 2020 15:54 utc | 2

Scanning the headers of MOA Week In Review is an invitation to spot Pavlov's discovery, namely, how to induce insanity.

While his experiments with dogs is popularly known, he in fact discovered how easy it is to use Fear-Uncertainty-Doubt to drive them mad.

Essentially, he trained them to choose between a circle and square patterns to get a food reward, giving electric shock/pain when they chose the square pattern. Then he slowly rounded the square's corners...until the animals could no longer be sure of the difference between the circle and the rounded "square" which point the animals went mad.

...or no longer able to think clearly.

A modern version might be what we call FUD, which includes fake-news or faux-data or deliberately withholding vital data.

Posted by: chu teh | Sep 20 2020 15:57 utc | 3

here is a good quote from the article b links to - how the west lost -
"Western blindness to the power of nationalism has had several bad consequences for western policy, and the cohesion of “the west.” In Eastern Europe, it would in time lead to the politically almost insane decision of the EU to try to order the local peoples, with their deeply-rooted ethnic nationalism and bitter memories of outside dictation, to accept large numbers of Muslim refugees. The backlash then became conjoined with the populist reactions in Western Europe, which led to Brexit and the sharp decline of centrist parties across the EU.

More widely, this blindness to the power of nationalism led the US grossly to underestimate the power of nationalist sentiment in Russia, China and Iran, and contributed to the US attempt to use “democratisation” as a means to overthrow their regimes. All that this has succeeded in doing is to help the regimes concerned turn nationalist sentiment against local liberals, by accusing them of being US stooges."

Posted by: james | Sep 20 2020 16:04 utc | 4

Work on Avangard complex comparable to USSR nuclear project - Putin

The Russian leader recalled that the US withdrawal from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty in 2002 forced Russia to start developing hypersonic weapons. "We had to create these weapons in response to the US deploying strategic missile defense system, which in the future would be able to actually neutralize, nullify our entire nuclear potential," Putin said.

That's how close Yeltsin was to permanently destroying Russia.

Posted by: vk | Sep 20 2020 16:08 utc | 5

Yasha Levine discovers what my mom calls Instant Perfect:

The period when you get married, have kids, and either pretend the past never happened, or in Matt Taibbi's case, apologize profusely and blame others.

I've not been a fan of "the supposed heir to Hunter S. Thompson" since he obviously became an adult.

Levine had a front row seat and does a great job chronicling Taibbi's rise to paladin of US journalism.

How long before it's op-eds at the NYT, alongside Brooks and Friedman?

Posted by: Fec | Sep 20 2020 16:35 utc | 6

By Russia developing defense capability that empire cannot overcome makes them the aggressor....up is down, black is white and don't ever look at the Western social contract with global private finance at the core.

Another week and no MAD yet but lots of stomping and hollering going on. I am want to see if there was a rush to sign up for WeChat before the end of Sunday/today given Trump's EO stopping US app availability new users...and then there is the TikTok side that has Trump, supposedly, requiring TikTok parent to pony up $5 billion for a Trump approved educational program about American history for youth....grin

When does the babbling start?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 20 2020 16:36 utc | 7

How the west lost

What I liked most about this article was the highlighting of impossible-to-counter narratives, the hypocrisy of Western democracy promotion (even as Western governments fellate domestic and foreign economic elites), and the denigration of nationalism from 1990-2016. Sadly, the author does a disservice in suggesting that such manipulations are past. Instead, the Western power-elite has done what it does best: co-opt a 'winning' narrative (nationalism) and double-down.

Other deficiencies:

  1. Ignores the fact that the US Deep State, caretakers of the Empire, hasn't accepted defeat. Since 2014 they have been actively trying to reverse what they see as a major set-back (not defeat).

    Via economic sanctions, trade wars, propaganda, and military tensions the Empire is waging a hybrid war against what it calls the "revisionist" efforts of Russia and China.

  2. Plays into the propaganda narrative of Trump as populist.
  3. Fails to see the 1990's 'economic shock therapy' as a deliberate attempt to push Russia into total capitulation. This, darker view, was confirmed obliquely by Kissinger in his interview with ft in which he stated that no one could foresee the ability of Russia to absorb pain.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 20 2020 16:45 utc | 8

Posted by: vk | Sep 20 2020 15:54 utc | 2

Actually the OECD prognosis is far better news for the US. This is the first prognosis i have seen for the last 20 years claiming that the US will perform better than the world economy on an yearly basis.

Since the US was hit by Covid far harder than most other countries (number 10 in the world per death rate), for the US to have smaller recession than most other countries can only be explained by massive money printing (increase in Fed's Balance sheet and the budget deficit).

So basically according to the OECD the US share in the world economy has increased in 2020. Something that never happened in the last 30 years. This is extraordinary for a developed country and not mached by any other western country.

For me, this big upgrade of US growth rate prospects is a big surprise, considering the ongoing Covid problems. The Fed sees growth at 3.8 % too.

Posted by: Passer by | Sep 20 2020 16:48 utc | 9

I follow and appreciate both Yasha and Taibbi. And its OK that Yasha calls Matt out as he does, just as others have called out Max Blumenthal, Ben Norton and Rania Khalek for their initial takes on the war on Syria. But we should not forget that people can be misled, and those that do realize what is going on and then actually change their opinions should be commended, not mocked. Well, maybe mocked a little. But then commend them, too, and move on.

Posted by: mpn | Sep 20 2020 16:55 utc | 10

mpn @ 10

See Blumenthal’s recent interview with Robert Scheer in which he boasts and gloats of his role in creating Hillary’s Syria policy. When someone revels in treachery do not give them your trust.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 20 2020 17:05 utc | 11

I'm sure you've seen this before, but just in case:

Dr. Bruce Baird is doing a great job describing the history of nuclear weapons, from first gen fission, to second gen fusion, and third gen H-bombs the size of pineapples.

Second and third gen nukes produce Mininum Residual Radiation and have been deployed underground in Eastern Europe against the Warsaw Pact, perhaps at the WTCs on 9/11, and Beirut in 1983 and this year.

Posted by: Fec | Sep 20 2020 17:08 utc | 12

Trump's Attack on Social Security
Has Started!

For eight-and-a-half decades, most Republican legislators (and some Democrats) have been trying to get rid of Social Security .

The first step in Trump’s assault on Social Security’s funding took effect Sept. 1st.

On Trump's orders, the IRS ordered corporations to stop withholding Social Security contributions from paychecks, through the end of the year.

Speaking on Fox Business recently, Trump advisor Larry Kudlow said that later this year Trump will order the IRS to continue the deferral indefinitely.

Social Security’s chief actuary wrote that if Social Security is defunded, some benefits will be reduced next year, and that benefits will disappear entirely by the end of 2023.

If you are, or if you know someone on Social Security, please pass the word!

Posted by: AntiSpin | Sep 20 2020 17:10 utc | 13

Posted by: vk | Sep 20 2020 15:54 utc | 2

Basically, the US economy would perform better even than Canada, Australia, Japan or Germany, who were hit by Covid 19 far less harder and has far less casualties per capita.

It will perform better than most other world economies, something that never happened in the last 30 years.

Very srange prognosis. Can not be explained away by anything other than money printing.

Posted by: Passer by | Sep 20 2020 17:10 utc | 14

Re: vk | Sep 20 2020 15:54 utc | 2

"Venezuela Blasts ‘Politicized’ Report by UN ‘Ghost Mission’"

Odd that no one's mentioned the assaults, including killings, against Bolivia's working class, by the self-described fascists who have seized power there with US help.

It's a puzzle . . .

Posted by: AntiSpin | Sep 20 2020 17:18 utc | 15

What is "bipartisan" about the hypocrisy surrounding GOP plans to replace RBG before the election?

Trump needs a friendly Supreme Court to back up any challenges he might make to the election which he is not going to win by popular vote and can only realistically win by manipulating the outcome through court challenges.

Posted by: Malchik Ralf | Sep 20 2020 17:19 utc | 16

Thanks for the many interesting links b and everyone else.

Here's an article that I found interesting:

Hyperinflation, Fascism and War: How the New World Order May Be Defeated Once More by Matthew Ehret on the Saker blog

On how FDR sought to counter colonialism/imperialism but his vision was quickly undone after his early death at the age of 63, and how today's Green New Deal / Global Reset being pushed has nothing to do FDR's New Deal.

Posted by: Canadian Cents | Sep 20 2020 17:20 utc | 17

See Blumenthal’s recent interview with Robert Scheer in which he boasts and gloats of his role in creating Hillary’s Syria policy. When someone revels in treachery do not give them your trust.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 20 2020 17:05 utc | 12

Do you have a link for that interview? Couldn't find it on any platform

Posted by: vato | Sep 20 2020 17:37 utc | 18

Posted by: Canadian Cents | Sep 20 2020 17:20 utc | 18 with the Matthew Ehret article

"This is the structure which is out to destroy President Donald Trump and undo the November elections under a military coup and Civil War out of fear that a new FDR impulse is beginning to be revived in America which may align with the 21st Century international New Deal emerging from China’s Belt and Road Initiative and Eurasian alliance."

A new FDR impulse under Trump, huh?

It's the same old same old deceptive BS that the Larouchian disciple Ehret puts out constantly.

Posted by: v | Sep 20 2020 17:46 utc | 19

US biological weapons Lyme disease interview
The interview of the author Kris Newby is from five days ago 20200915.

I'm having a worse than usual weekend and have not kept up with MoA but found the following a few hours ago. I have only managed to read up to the introduction of Willy Burgdorfer saying:

"Yeah, I was in the biological weapons program during the whole Cold War. I was a consultant to Detrick. They asked me to put plague in fleas. They asked me to try and figure out how to make, how to reproduce ticks really quickly so that you can drop boxes of them on people. I tried to package fleas with plague so that you could drop them in bombs that would burst open above a battalion-size area.”

MuckRock interviews Kris Newby, the author of "Bitten: The Secret History of Lyme Disease and Biological Weapons" (there are links in the interview).

It might interest those looking into US biological warfare and the Lyme disease.

There are many other topics that look like they could also interest people here on the MuckRock News page and of course they have search function too.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 20 2020 17:48 utc | 20

@ Posted by: Passer by | Sep 20 2020 16:48 utc | 9

Then you've been consulting the wrong sources, because the USA has been consistently growing more than its G7 peers since the neoliberal era. And this was also true for the aftermath of 2008, when the USA was the first (and, alongside the UK, the only) country not counting China to recover economically.

Economic stagnation and/or recession has been the First World's whole history since the 1990s - except for the USA.

Posted by: vk | Sep 20 2020 18:15 utc | 21

vk, on UK troubles, more:

BoJo’s Internal Market Bill appears to offer the possibility of negating, overriding or ignoring some parts of the Withdrawal Agreement, thus breaking international law as the WA is a *treaty.* For the public + general politics, it is recent and signed by Bojo himself, so that aspect counts.

bbc 14 Sept

D. A. Green, 12 Sept, lawyerly expl

The EU has ‘refused’ the texts, and has the possibility of legal action (imho they won’t take any for now.) US Dems have stated no trade deal with the UK if the Good Friday Agreement is in any way threatened or compromised or whatever (..uncertainty reigns…US elections..) Bojo has had to back down in part - overriding Intl. Law must be approved later by the HoC…or some such:

FT (free to read for me…)

Only two outcomes of the 2016 Brexit vote were on the cards:

BRINO, brexit in name only (various forms, incl. a Brexit so squishy soft it would be a sham to appease voters, see Jack Rabbit) and a crash-out, which now looms closer while all the hopes, fantasies of Brexit cannot be realised (Mega FTAs with ROW while own all-over control.. return to past glory… consolidate finance…etc.) which leads to more polarization, more blaming of the EU, more anger, rigidification, etc.

N. Ireland will split off, as I said long ago. The EU has intimated they will accept that, only needs to be worked out is who will pay/how much, Ireland itself is hesitant, cos, cost. Geography wins out often, and while the UK cares not a whit about NI - Scotland is a different matter.

Posted by: Noirette | Sep 20 2020 18:20 utc | 22

@20, v, I'm not familiar enough with Ehret, or Larouche, to understand your dismissal. Is it the whole article that you deem to be deceptive BS, or just that sentence you quoted, or just some part of that sentence?

I find interesting his suggestion that the "Great Reset" that I've seen mentioned here and there might be a response to China's Belt and Road Initiative.

Posted by: Canadian Cents | Sep 20 2020 18:29 utc | 23

While it should be shocking and is instead merely exemplary, there is no accountability at all to anyone involved with the Boeing MAX disaster. But there rarely is, as I remembered the Ford Pinto:

Other news - Pompeo has announced that the "snapback" mechanism has been triggered and full UN sanctions on Iran are back in effect. The US threatens to impose "consequences" on any national entity which defies this announcement. It appears that no one is paying any mind. Has US State Dept ever been so ineffective?

Canada's foreign minister has announced that negotiations with China toward a proposed free-trade agreement are being scuttled, claiming that the "China of 2020" is not the same as the "China of 2016", when negotiations began. This has prompted a flurry of virtue-signalling in the press, supporting most righteously all moves to disengage with the "authoritarian" demon kingdom - which is Canada's second largest export market. Unstated is that language in the renegotiated NAFTA agreement explicitly prohibits Canada and Mexico from signing free trade agreements with "non-market" economies.

Posted by: jayc | Sep 20 2020 19:00 utc | 24

@24 Canadian Cents

Ehret's belief that Trump follows the impulses of the FDR school of thought is puzzling to me, but I find it very easy to skip over. It doesn't interfere with the main themes that Ehret presents, and especially the history he presents, which clearly didn't just end back in the past but is with us in certain forms today. The perspectives are invaluable.

As to LaRouche, I don't know enough to judge - the media records are full of disdain for his work, but I've read a few things from that library that totally impressed me, so I'm holding back from easy one-liners on the subject.

Posted by: Grieved | Sep 20 2020 19:01 utc | 25

This might be unfair. I couldn't muster more energy than to look through it piecemeal; to me the Prospect article is too verbose and narrative-driven even if it gets bits and pieces right. It didn't add anything new (including adding some really boring "leftist" tropes like complaining about Eastern Europe not being anywhere near liberal enough for the leftist liberal tastes of the "cognoscienti") and almost seems like it tries to explain itself and its own conclusions away as if brushing off some dust.

Why are my alarms going off? Is it just the tedious political style? Am I being stupid? Maybe I'm just too tired to see any pearls of wisdom.

I sometimes wonder if Marx spins each time someone "invokes" his name.

Marx, Marx, Marx, Marx, Marx… djeez give the guy a break :D

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 20 2020 19:01 utc | 26

Posted by: vk | Sep 20 2020 18:15 utc | 22

No, this is not about G-7 at all. Its about the world economy. Most world economies.

It very very simple observation, i dunno you failed to see it.

In the last 20 and probably more years, the US always grew at lower rate than the global economy, as well as than most world economies.

This time the US economy performed in relative terms better than most world economies, developing and developed, as well as better than the global economy as a whole.

Something is off about this and it is not normal. This can only be explained by the massive money printing that happened this year, and thus stealing via the dollar from the rest of the world.

But it is also interesting that they performed better than countries with far fewer Covid deaths and cases per capita, such as Australia and Canada. Btw Australian GDP growth rate has been higher on average than the US for the last 20 years.

Something happened this year that changed things. And it is not better US performance in containing Covid 19, on the contrary, it was far worse than most of the world. I suspect that it is the money printing.

Posted by: Passer by | Sep 20 2020 19:08 utc | 27

By the way and sort of combining my two comments on what one might think are disparate topics I've come across a quote claiming the CDC in 2013 said there are 300000 (three hundred thousand) Lyme disease infections each year in the US.

Haven't found the source yet so take it with a pinch of salt but it struck me that the economic implications of such a number would be fairly large (in ten years a number like that would involve something close to or approaching a single percent of everyone in the US).

I apologize if this is a brain fart (I can't tell right now), I'll stop commenting until I improve.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 20 2020 19:25 utc | 28

vk @ 2 thanks for more on profit.. link..
but it fails to break the profits derivatives down by return on investment from tangible vs intangible assets. Rule of law continues to extract from the masses the bits of profits that belong to the masses, and to transport those massive numbers of iddy bitty bits into one big Oligarch pocket.. but in the 1955 physical assets were 87% of the balance sheet today it is 16% .. the ratio of tangible to intangible has been exchanged.. and that exchange has been the source of profit since the 1960s.. Now even extraction from the masses by rule of law is approaching its limit, even stealing from the masses cannot replace the profits that once were produced de nova instead of sequestering the profits of others into the monopoly powers which use rule of law (copyright and patent laws) to redirecting the profits made by others into feudal lord banks. Furthermore that exchange of physical asset for intangible assets on the balance sheet, shows that competition produces profits, and monopolisms, redistribute the profits of others into the wallets of the feudal lords.

The fed can print all of the money it wants.. but what is clear to me, is taking one piece of paper and tearing into 4 parts does not produce $4 worth of buying power. instead it produced four $.25 quarters of the original $1.00 dollar and adds nothing to the real economy. .

Posted by: snake | Sep 20 2020 19:56 utc | 29

Posted by: Canadian Cents | Sep 20 2020 18:29 utc | 24

Lyndon LaRouche basically ran (he is dead now but his movement is still alive) a political fund-raising front disguised by a web of media outlets to borrow as much money as he could and never paid it back. Prof Michael Hudson can tell a thing or two about it since he got scammed by LaRouche by 75.000 USD. His polit-economical conviction is that the economy should be managed again by the old tycoons (I am paraphrasing).

When you read Matthew Ehret you often come across the same "historical" analysis that the world is run by a British cabal of industrialist and money-lender and that the pristine USA/Canada/EU is co-opted by their power-brokers and that without this British cabal we would have already have Eurasian integration, Bering Strait railroad project, etc.
His schtick is to portray world affairs one-sidedly, exonerate the Founding Fathers of any guilt, eulogize FDR as an anti-imperialist/British champion, depict Trump as someone who fights the Deep State - all that paired with many pictures of old people that are already dead to give it more gravitas. In an article a few month ago he really wanted to convice his readers that the USA always wanted good relations with Mexico - alas forgetting to mention the times the USA stole Mexican land (not to mention that Trump wants to help AMLO to develop his country of course).

Not sure if he is an active LaRouchian member, but he surely promotes LaRouchian "philosophical" thought. In the disclaimer Here, Here and Here

Posted by: v | Sep 20 2020 20:01 utc | 30

Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 20 2020 17:48 utc | 21

Quote from CDC website

"...To improve public health, CDC wants to know how many people are actually diagnosed with Lyme disease each year and for this reason has conducted two studies:
•Project 1 (Lyme Disease Testing by Large Commercial Laboratories in the United States) estimated the number of people who tested positive for Lyme disease based on data obtained from a survey of clinical laboratories. Researchers estimated that 288,000 (range 240,000–444,000) infections occur among patients for whom a laboratory specimen was submitted in 2008.
•Project 2 (Incidence of Clinician-Diagnosed Lyme Disease, United States, 2005–2010) estimated the number of people diagnosed with Lyme disease based on medical claims information from a large insurance database. In this study, researchers estimated that 329,000 (range 296,000–376,000) cases of Lyme disease occur annually in the United States.

Results of these studies suggest that the number of people diagnosed with Lyme disease each year in the United States is around 300,000. ..."

[[[Note that numbers of cases may be a cumulative total, because it does not specify whether or not newly diagnosed or already diagnosed in prior years. Perhaps there are's CDC website stuff, so caution.]]]

Posted by: chu teh | Sep 20 2020 20:12 utc | 31

re my #32...should add Lyme Disease symptoms overlap diagnosis of other conditions that may or may not be related. I.e. I believe the diagnosis itself, and the definition of "Lyme Disease, are not to the exclusion of other conditions.

It is a .gov matter and probably made confusing because the source of Lyme Disease may be the .gov lab on an island in Long Island Sound off Connecticut where it was being researched.

Posted by: chu teh | Sep 20 2020 20:27 utc | 32

v @31--

That's a good encapsulation, and there are others from that group that Strategic Culture publishes. Objective historians they're not, and that's my problem with that group. There's some basic truth at the base of what I term the Ehret Thesis--shortly after the US Civil War the forces of reaction primarily linked to Feudal mechanisms began their counter-attack on the Classical Economists and their political allies who were attempting to cut them off from the primary source of their livelihood--Land Rent--which started the shift to install what we know as Neoliberalism that's removed land as one of the factors of Capital required for an economy to function. But Ehret's touched none of that. Only a few, Hudson, Keen, Wolff, are some, have written on parts of that story but the whole has yet to be properly detailed so JQ Public can learn what's been--and is still being--done to him/her. At times, I've suspected them of running interference for the Rentier Class given their historical omissions. My aim is to finally connect all the dots and write the tale if someone hasn't done so first.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 20 2020 20:33 utc | 33

One of the best reports with compilation of best other reports based on sources in Russian language on the "Navalny poisoning" case has been made by John Helmer in his blog.

For what I have concluded, this is a new case of Russian foreign agent felt in disgrace by missapropiation of funds belonging to his they have been all the rest of "poisonings", in the case of Litvinenko going on his own with polonium smuggling, and in the case of Skripal going on his own with managing of relevant information related to US elections and wish to retire in his Motherland..
All this given as a gift to be taken advantage by the "European Liberal Group", leaded by Guy Verhosftaft, and assorted European secret services and officials of liberal leaning to, once more time, blame Russia of all possible evils, so as to put a breach amongst the EU and Russia, and by passing do a favor to the liberal mothership in the US/UK and achieve stopping NSII.....

Linked amongst the reports by Helmer, I found this report by SothFront most informative... and trepidant hooking reading on spionage...

Homo Homini Lupus Est: Did Navalny’s Allies Poison The Oppositionist For Flying Too Close To The Sun?

Helmer´s series...Trepidant in its whole...



Posted by: H.Schmatz | Sep 20 2020 20:42 utc | 34

Wow! "Pelosi Not Ruling Out Impeachment Effort to Stop Senate Vote on Supreme Court" while Trump says, "He May Ink Executive Order to Stop Biden From Running in November Election".

While traveling yesterday, we got behind a Vietnam Vet with a homemade bumper-sticker in big red block letters: TRE45ON. As most barflies know, I've been accusing Trump of Treason since June once it became very clear that he did indeed employ a Do Nothing Policy--and even worse, to impede action--regarding the pandemic, thus clearly defining him as Domestic Enemy #1--a Traitor. Six weeks until the election. Like many, I don't want either Trump or Biden; but Trump is clearly a Traitor and must be removed from power.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 20 2020 20:50 utc | 35

@ Posted by: snake | Sep 20 2020 19:56 utc | 30

It is possible to separate profit rates of a given nation-State between profit in money terms (fiat currency) and in real terms (the organic composition of capital). But it's a complicated task, given the countries generally adopt a bourgeois economy methodology (which doesn't separate the two).

But yes, profit in money terms ("financial") does mask the degradation of a country's "real" economy (productive base). This is the most visible in the poorer members of the European Union which use the Euro, but also in rentier economies like the UK. Ditto with Japan.

As a rule of the thumb, you can posit that the greater the weight of finance in a country's profit rate, the more depressed is said countries' productive base in relative terms, as profit is the life blood of the capitalist system, always.

In the capitalist system, profit rate always tends to fall. This is a scientifically proven economic law (Marx). Indeed, complete disregard of Marxism is why people like Martyanov can't understand why the USA doesn't change course with its military doctrine, instead trying to fill the gap with cultural and moral degeneration (what I once called here "Neobyzantism"). The reason is the USA doesn't change course because it can't: societal formation do have its metabolic "rules", which it cannot escape; just because humanities degenerated during the Cold War, it doesn't mean they can't be science.


@ Posted by: Passer by | Sep 20 2020 19:08 utc | 28

The picture is not as rosy as you paint it.

The only region of the world which truly has been growing since the 1990s is Southeast Asia + China. The other so-called BRICS (sans China) only grew significantly during the post dotcom commodities boom of 2002-2007. You can find minuscule countries (the Nordics, Luxembourg, Ireland) that grew more than the USA, but we're talking about a completely different scale of economies.

But the lesson is this: if I were to shortly explain the history of the neoliberal era - specially since the 1990s - in purely geographical terms, I would say that it was marked by the general decline of the Global North (includes the whole First World plus Australia, New Zealand and the rich nations of Western Europe) and the rise of China and its sphere of influence, SE Asia. Of the Global North nations, only Australia escaped unscathed from neoliberalism in macroeconomic terms until now - but its luck ran out, and it will see an economic depression now. I don't like comparative History (I think it is straight up pseudo-science), but, if you want to digest it better (make it more acceptable for yourself) then I would compare the secular decline of the Global North of the beginning of the 21st Century with the secular decline of Italia during the late High Roman Empire. The question is if the proverbial Crisis of the Third Century will happen.


@ Posted by: Canadian Cents | Sep 20 2020 17:20 utc | 18

I agree with v @ 20. Trump is the opposite of FDR. His policies and reforms are all pro-big business (the main one being the corporate tax cuts, which he created in the first months of his mandate).

It's also important to highlight that FDR was the opposite of a revolutionary. He domesticated the socialists policies that were increasingly popular in the USA in order to cold the revolutionary impulses that may or may have not existed in the USA at the time.

Posted by: vk | Sep 20 2020 21:00 utc | 36

Forgot to link last part of Helmer´s series...


And, so as to open mouth, in case there is someone lazy enough to not try the above linked hooking reports, here what is said in SouthFront report about Maria Pevchikh...Only this excerpt, added to his father recent suspicious "occupation", and the fact that she was sent expressely to Novosibirsk to "accompany" Navalny in his trip to Siberia, plus the fact that was she who supervised the bagging of criminal evidence in Navalny´s room at Xander Hotel in Tomsk and brought it to Germany in the special flight to hand it to the Bundeswehr, one guess any Russian state prosecutor would find her the main suspect in this case...

Despite the age of information technology and social networks, there is practically little information about Maria.

In 2008 she graduated from Moscow State University with a degree in Sociology. According to Russian sources, during the studying in the Moscow State University, she already had strong pro-British views, and was publicly declaring a goal to get a British citizenship. Later she graduated from the elite London School of Economics and Political Science. She has been living in Great Britain for a long time, and at the age of 22 she served as an assistant to one of the members of the British Parliament.

At the moment, she is in business, owning a chain of bookstores in the UK and Australia. Her exact level of income is unknown, but there was enough money for an apartment overlooking the Tower of London in the elite complex The Circle on Queen Elizabeth Street.

Her father, Konstantin Pevchikh, owns a research company and a biological laboratory. LLC “Fotisse” was registered at the end of July this year. There is no information on the scope of the organization. NIOBIS LLC has been developing projects for growing viruses and biological cells for ten years.

Maria Pevchikh has extensive business and political ties, including with Chichvarkin and Khodorkovsky. These both persons are widely known for their active anti-Russian position, involvement and funding of various anti-government campaigns in Russia and apparent ties with Western, mostly British, special services.

Navalny and Pevchikh have known each other for at least the last 10 years. Since 2010, at the request of Ashurkov, she has been providing information support to the oppositionist, providing information about the assets of high-ranking Russians in the UK for investigations.

Such data cannot be found in the public domain, and therefore there is reason to believe that Maria is cooperating with the European intelligence services and MI6.

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Sep 20 2020 21:01 utc | 37

Thanks for your reply karlof1. And thanks for transforming my incoherent rambling into a much more substantial and intelligible valuation. As you say, the historical accuracy of a lot of the articles published in Stratetic Culture or Global Research are often times poorly such that you have to separate the viable information from the shady part which makes it a rather vexatious endeavor to read through the texts.

Posted by: v | Sep 20 2020 21:02 utc | 38

Pompeo:"Virtually all @UN sanctions have returned on Iran, "

Really funny, Pompeo alone claiming “virtually” all Iran’s UN sanctions are back on while and everybody is ignoring him saying no, reminds me of Baghdad Bob, he is now “DC bob “

Posted by: Kooshy | Sep 20 2020 21:16 utc | 39

Grieved @ 26, I agree with what you have written here - Ehret presents an historical essay punctuated by short videos that I look forward to viewing. It's an absorbing narrative overview description of the forces in play - I always remember film of the masses of people lining the tracks when FDR's funeral train rolled by. No other presidential passing has earned such an accolade, and his loss plus what occurred after were so stunning for that generation, as was JFK's loss for mine. In each case the rapid changes of policy were heart-wrenchingly brutal.

Why hasn't such a narrative been part of America's educational curriculum? Such a glaring omission rather supports his views than obscures them now. They simply stand sunlit. That's the America I wanted to become a citizen of, and did.

Posted by: juliania | Sep 20 2020 21:28 utc | 40

Passer by #9

For me, this big upgrade of US growth rate prospects is a big surprise, considering the ongoing Covid problems. The Fed sees growth at 3.8 % too.

Unbelievable IMO.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 20 2020 21:35 utc | 41

Regarding USA's economic progress (or fantasy of it), I'll quote someone:

Two cowboys, Bill and John, ride their horses in prairie. While riding there, Bill sees a pile of horse shit and because he has 100 dollars it occurs to him--why wouldn't I dare John to eat this pile of horse shit for a hundred dollars. So, he dares John to do just that. John thinks: hm, of course, eating horse shit is really humiliating and disgusting but 100 bucks, damn, too serious of a money to pass on such an opportunity. So, he agrees and eats this pile of shit and Bill gives him his 100 bucks. They continue to ride side-by-side after that. While riding both think.
Bill: well, it is all cool that John ate a pile of horse shit but, man, 100 bucks is too great sum of a money to pay even for such an atrocious challenge. I wish I never dared Bill and kept my 100.

John: well, it is really cool to have 100 bucks, but, man, I ate a pile of horse shit for that and now Bill will taunt and humiliate me for this. I wish I never agreed to accept his challenge.
While thinking like that they pass another pile of horse shit and John dares Bill to eat this pile of shit for 100 bucks. Bill agrees and does just that, John gives him 100 bucks. After that both cowboys continue to ride side-by-side in full silence. After few minutes of riding in silence John breaks it: "Hey, Bill, you know what? Don't you think that we both just ate a load of horse shit for free?"
Bill replies: "But we just created $200 worth of GDP and created two new jobs."

Posted by: Abe | Sep 20 2020 21:39 utc | 42

Open thread ? To any one who cares really.....It is a Canadian content question.

Ok Canada's healthcare system originally set up by Tommy Douglas, is for all intents and purposes considered a system from the 'Left'.

Douglas was a Baptist (ordained minister IIRC) which would be considered from the 'right'.

Now the question.....Could a socialised health care system actually have come from the 'right' as opposed to the 'left'?

I don't really care as regardless our health care system is good. I just couldnt see past the contradictions while gardening yesterday.

Any thoughts? Thanks for any in advance.

Keep it up and thanks for the space B

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Sep 20 2020 21:40 utc | 43

The Yasha Levine article doesn’t come close to backing up its headline’s very serious accusation against Matt Taibbi as being a “cancel culture hypocrite”.

His beefs against Taibbi are:

1) Levine thinks Taibbi hasn’t put up a spirited enough defense of Taibbi’s own writings in The eXile newspaper. But if Taibbi feels he has matured and wants to put some distance between him and what he wrote in the 1990s, isn’t that his right?

2) But then, Levine says, “Matt went further. He turned rat.” But the paragraphs that follow are filled with these operative words and phrases:
• “you get a very real sense”
• “Matt didn’t push the point explicitly.”
• “he strongly implied”
And even what is at issue isn’t important: whether Taibbi made it look like Mark Ames was the real bad boy scamp at The eXile. Who cares?

Between Taibbi and Levine, I don’t really know which one is the more righteous dude, or whose side I would take if I knew them personally. But this looks like a very low-stakes, personal gripe by Levine, which he has spun into what is meant to look like a damning indictment of Taibbi. Meanwhile, Taibbi is doing really incisive commentary on current issues. So between the two of them, I do think I can form an opinion on which is the better journalist.

Posted by: David G | Sep 20 2020 21:40 utc | 44

From the article linked by the blog (How the west lost):

Then again, Marx himself made exactly the same mistake in his portrayal of a permanent socialist utopia after the overthrow of capitalism. The point is that utopias, being perfect, are unchanging, whereas continuous and radical change, driven by technological development, is at the heart of capitalism—and, according to Marx, of the whole course of human history. Of course, those who believed in a permanently successful US “Goldilocks economy”—not too hot, and not too cold—also managed to forget 300 years of periodic capitalist economic crises.

Marx never theorized or speculated about socialism. He drew a general scheme on the theory of History (socialism being the transition between capitalism and communism), which was very far from being an "utopia". If he was an utopian, he could just get rid of socialism as the phase of transition and fantasize directly about communism.

The paragraph is even more hilarious for the fact that, in the immediate previous one, the author of the article does a gigantic quotation on the Communist Manifesto (the famous "“The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionising the instruments of production [...]"). Well, where's your quote on Marx's alleged "mistake"?

Posted by: vk | Sep 20 2020 21:41 utc | 45

That was a massive leak this week regarding British subverting / interfering in other country’s stability !

Another massive leak !!
British world wide banking curuption.

I can’t cope.
We got more leaks than the Titanic, and we know what happened to that.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 20 2020 21:43 utc | 46

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 20 2020 21:43 utc | 47

This is definitely a state intelligence service behind that, as it covers many of the world's biggest banks.

Imo the leak could be a Russian counterattack for the alleged Novichok poisoning, which in turn could be a British operation to destroy Russia - EU relations.

Posted by: Passer by | Sep 20 2020 21:56 utc | 47

My @ 47
My initial thoughts on this and the preveous leak are ———
I really think they should free JULIAN ASSANGE before any more of our dirty secrets come out.
pass the pop corn.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 20 2020 22:02 utc | 48

Vato @ 19

Try for Feb. 07 2020. Headline is something about Clinton and Sanders, very wide ranging discussion. The two of them are very comfortable good friends and drop all sorts of interesting material. Long interview.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 20 2020 22:08 utc | 49

Russia’s embassy in the US has demanded clarification after an unnamed American official was cited in a report stating that US forces are providing weapons to militant units in Crimea as they launch attacks on Russian troops. … Published by NBC News on Monday … buried in the article’s 12th paragraph, an anonymous official, as is customary in US media, is cited as saying that US intelligence had assumed a “bounty program” existed, as it believed it was “a proportional response to the US arming of Ukrainian units fighting Russian forces in Crimea.”

I doubt this was a real revelation, either advertent or inadvertent, of an actual operation in Crimea. It seems more likely the anonymous source had in mind the U.S. aid to Ukraine directed at Donbass, and conflated it with Crimea. The fact that neither the source, nor the NBC reporter and editors, nor the U.S. readership understood the significance of confusing the two is depressing but not surprising evidence of the cognitive level at which the U.S. operates.

I don’t fault the Russian embassy for demanding an explanation, but I suspect that privately they know they’re just dealing with idiots.

(This isn’t to say the U.S. doesn’t have dirty tricks in play, or at least in mind, in Crimea. It’s just that I don’t think this quote has anything to do with them.)

Posted by: David G | Sep 20 2020 22:11 utc | 50

David G #45

Taibbi is writing mighty good material at his private site these days (free from the Rolling Stone peculiarities I guess) plus he and Katie Halper do a mighty effort via Useful Idiots at RS and I appreciate their interplay and sometimes excellent wit. The duo at Useful Idiots lift each others humor and analysis and sometimes they interview a goodie. They do burnish Bernie too much and they seem to be 'any blue will do' promoters between the lines. So it goes.

Yasha Levine is an excellent writer and I appreciate his material but should avoid bashing the past around the laundry floor.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 20 2020 22:11 utc | 51

Posted by: vk | Sep 20 2020 21:00 utc | 37

No, i'm not interested in painting a rosy picture, i simply noticed that in this year US economy performed better than the global economy, something that was not expected and that never happened in the last 20 years, even though the country is one of the hardest hit by Covid 19 in the world, compared to other countries.

The only way i can explain this is the 3 trillion budget deficit and the several trillions Fed balance sheet expansion.

I have seen normal IMF and many other financial insitutions estimates for future growth too and no one ever estimated higher growth rate for the US compared to the world growth rate for the next 20 years as well - up to 2040 at least.

The only way to explain this is that something extraordinary happened this year. What happened - the big rise in US government debt and the Fed balance sheet.

Posted by: Passer by | Sep 20 2020 22:14 utc | 52

Passer By @ 49
Our comments overlapped. In answer maybe a combination of both. Now that really would be interesting.
What next ? Purely speculation of course.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 20 2020 22:17 utc | 53

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Sep 20 2020 21:40 utc | 44 says: 'Any thoughts? Thanks for any in advance.'

I would answer your question slightly differently from 'left' or 'right'.

Saskatchewan was populated by Central European immigrants at the beginning of the 20th century, with the largest contingents being of German heritage followed by Ukranian.

In my experience people of Central European ancestry have a more collectivist nature, as compared to those of British ancestry, who are more individualist.

In my opinion, it is the Central European (German) heritage of Saskatchewan in the mid-20th century that enabled the development of socialized health care. It would never have happened in a society with a British heritage.

Posted by: dh-mtl | Sep 20 2020 22:30 utc | 54

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 20 2020 22:17 utc | 54

They did not overlap that much really. I was reading the South Front story about possible british involvment in the Navalny incident when i saw your comment too, here, about the big bank leak. So i commented in reaction to your comment.

Since this involves many large western banks, it could be a deliberate hit at the western financial system, quite probably by intelligence service.

It could well be some from of covert russian payback for the Navalny operation, looking at the date it happens. The date of when things happened is always important.

I immediately knew that something isn't right when Navalny got poisoned right in the middle of the Belarus elections and protests against Lukashenko. Now why would that happen at that exact moment? Unless someone wants to create anti-russian synergy between the two events, feeding on each other.

Seemed like a pefrect operation to try to derail Nord Stream 2 and EU - Russia relations in general.

The bank leak also mentions several russians but that could be a clever form of covering tracks - that is - one why would someone mention their own people, people will say. Therefore this couldn't be Russia.

Still, the large bank leak is predominantly about big western banks so i see it as an anti-western attack, possibly launched by an intelligence service.

Posted by: Passer by | Sep 20 2020 22:37 utc | 55

Thanks dh-mtl. I thought it could have had something to do with this

I like the 'culture' explanation too, though. Many thanks.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Sep 20 2020 22:43 utc | 56

I found the chart of excess mortality to be interesting.
Have a look for yourself and choose various countries, and you find that some countries had about double the normal death rate for a few months. Some had about half that excess (140% of the normal rate) for a few months.
Most countries I looked at had a rate that was back to normal, including USA and UK.

Of course there is the interaction of pandemic response and excess mortality (the argument that "it would have been worse if we didn't lock down") and I've also seen the argument that the government response either way did not make a big difference to excess deaths (although it clearly made a huge difference to the economic impact) so let's not expect to draw ALL conclusions from ONE data point, but I found it interesting and thought you might too.

Posted by: Deltaeus | Sep 20 2020 22:46 utc | 57

Posted by: killwallstreet | Sep 20 2020 16:58 utc | 11 Trump makes key move to beat Biden in their race to start a war with Iran

Agree with the article cited: If Trump wins the election, an Iran war is virtually guaranteed in his second term. If Biden wins...well, same thing, just maybe a hair slower.


The rest of this week's stories aren't much worth commenting on, being mostly the usual irrelevant stories that will fade in significance by end of next week.
Fake news, Deep State plots, Syria drags on, a dead old bitch, Cohen (unfortunate but he had no influence anyway), Assange (doomed from the start), two journalists squabbling (seriously, b?), the election (mess as outcome was a forgone conclusion), and the utter irrelevancy of another big corp (Boeing) being a rip-off scam artist - yawn...

The Chinese nukes article was informative. I'll read "how the West lost" - not that I care much. OK - read it. As expected, simply a recap of how belief in the nation-state system (let alone "moral values" - seriously, Anatole?) has been a circus which has inevitably led to corruption, failure and destabilization of the world, leading inevitably to nuclear war in the not-too-distant future.

So - whatcha gonna *do* about that, Anatole? Answer: crickets.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Sep 20 2020 22:50 utc | 58

Tannenhouser @44--

Thanks for the quip you provided awhile back related to me being a troll!!

As for Canada's healthcare system, occasionally morality transcends politics, and Baptists are a very odd bunch, a few being the rare Christian with a moral conscience.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 20 2020 23:25 utc | 59

@ Fec | Sep 20 2020 16:35 utc | 6 / @ mpn | Sep 20 2020 16:55 utc | 10 / David G | Sep 20 2020 21:40 utc | 45
regarding this topic, i finally got round to reading the link b posted.. i enjoyed it.. i tend to see it like mpn here, but i will say that i didn't know matt was doing heroin while writing for exile and there may be some remorse over this and all related to this on his part... so, i wonder how much of his angst over the past involves this part of it?? people doing heroin don't process things the way ordinary people do... at any rate - i enjoyed levines article and thought it was fair for him to say all that.. i would be curious to read taibbis response, if and when it is forthcoming.. david - i liked what you said in your post here and i agree with you - "But this looks like a very low-stakes, personal gripe by Levine, which he has spun into what is meant to look like a damning indictment of Taibbi. Meanwhile, Taibbi is doing really incisive commentary on current issues. So between the two of them, I do think I can form an opinion on which is the better journalist."

@ Jackrabbit | Sep 20 2020 16:45 utc | 8.. one of my only problems with that article is this quote "Russia after the Cold War was a shambles and today it remains a weak economy with a limited role on the world stage, concerned mainly with retaining some of its traditional areas of influence." i am not sure about just how weak the russian economy is... i don't know.. otherwise i really enjoyed the article..

@ Tannenhouser | Sep 20 2020 21:40 utc | 44.. regarding the question of canuck health system coming from the right or left, let me tell you a personal story... i was good friends with a neurosurgeon who practiced his work in the san francisco area most of his life... he graduated from mcgill university ( montreal ) in the 40's and was from a small town outside of regina called drinkwater saskatchewan... he was determined to practice in the usa after he got his education at mcgill for the reason he didn't agree with what he referred to as the socialist system of medicine in canada around the time he began his career... so i would say that regardless of tommy douglas's religious affiliation, he was a socialist politician at the time advocating for this form of medicine for all at the time.. perhaps being a baptist isn't as right wing as you think? i don't know...

@ dh-mtl | Sep 20 2020 22:30 utc | 55.. great response.. thanks.. you get to the heart of it...

Posted by: james | Sep 20 2020 23:27 utc | 60

NATO backs Biden, steals the South Pacific.
Trump dumped.

A good read.

The imperialist reaction to the rise of the multi-polar world is bringing heavier investment in the military, and more economic isolation from Washington's rivals. This is bringing more austerity, lowered wages, and rising prices of goods. We're already seeing this trend become greatly pronounced in Australia, where the cold war with China is harming the industries which depend so heavily on their Chinese ties. Australia may soon become part of NATO, but this won't stop proletarian revolution from becoming a practical necessity, both in Australia and throughout the rest of the neoliberal world.

Proletarian revolution is a long way off in the bunya nut republic.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 20 2020 23:38 utc | 61

The problem with Taibbi

It's not just his Cancel Culture diatribes and love-hate relationship with the Democratic Party.

There's also his Our Man in Cambridge which promotes a Deep State-friendly CYA narrative about Russiagate in the form of a tell-all from "Whistleblower Steven Schrage". (We've previously discussed this lame-ass CYA at moa.)

In the article, Taibbi promised that there would be several follow-ups. But there haven't been any. I am shocked (not).


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 20 2020 23:50 utc | 62

Go with the Canadian Health System.
You get to live longer, and it cost half as much.
(Compared to the US system, the Canadian system has lower costs, more services, universal access to health care without financial barriers, and superior health status. Canadians and Germans have longer life expectancies and lower infant mortality rates than do US residents.)

Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Sep 20 2020 23:52 utc | 63

Mark2 #47

Another massive leak !! British world wide banking curruption.

We got more leaks than the Titanic, and we know what happened to that.

Thank you and then I read this par:

They were leaked to Buzzfeed News and shared with a group that brings together investigative journalists from around the world, which distributed them to 108 news organisations in 88 countries, including the BBC's Panorama programme.

Sniff test:- BBC + global investigative journalists hmmm is this the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ) again or perhaps Integrity Initiatives stable of paid journalists? If BBC gives it oxygen this quick then it is likely to be a propaganda feast.

As I recall the ICIJ was just a tad partisan in its Panama Papers Caper.
Don't be surprised for yet another 'hate russia' bashing.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 20 2020 23:54 utc | 64

Last pose by Navalny with t-shirt and gloves blue NATO...

Navalny fresh as a lettuce after drinking Novichok mineral water. What will be the next photographic pose of this theater actor? I demand the removal of the Kremlin poisoners.

I notice they have tinted his guess they will say that is a sequel of the last Novichok novice...

Posted by: Escarlata | Sep 21 2020 0:47 utc | 65

post today from craig murray... it is ongoing excellent coverage of another uk-usa frame-up which the world has come to expect especially since the war on iraq...

Your Man in the Public Gallery: Assange Hearing Day 13

Posted by: james | Sep 21 2020 0:53 utc | 66

@james | Sep 20 2020 23:27 utc | 61

Upon reflection, and whereas I miss the old Taibbi and HST, this recent article is outstanding.

Still, I was shocked by the quality of Levine's article.

Posted by: Fec | Sep 21 2020 1:01 utc | 67

@34 karlof1

Many thanks for weighing in on the Ehret case - I greatly appreciate your hard-earned clarity on the matter. I encourage you to write that dot-connector one day, because I doubt that anyone's done it yet.


@45 David G

Nice comment, the result of work, and useful for those who hadn't yet read that piece. Many thanks.

And to your Ukraine comment following later, it's a tiny nuance, and of no great weight in the matter, but it may also be that the Ukro thugs formally see Crimea as still part of Ukraine, so to talk of fighting Russian soldiers in Crimea could be consistent with politically correct Ukro-speak.

I'm out of touch but I do believe that there are continual and ongoing attempts to sabotage Crimea by Ukrainian state terrorists. I'm sure Russia's FSB could tell many a tale. Fortunately they are competent, and the Ukrainian and Langley competence both appear equally dismal.

Posted by: Grieved | Sep 21 2020 1:07 utc | 68

As to who is worth reading and if they are good or bad people. I'm afraid we live in a world where public commentators seem able to change sides and even personalities in a short few years. There is no consistent hallmark of excellence in the byline anymore, only in the content of the immediate article one is reading. Authors consistently surprise us with a view we don't agree with, in the middle of an overview that we otherwise do agree with.

I don't know if this is a regrettable thing, because I suspect it was ever thus, but we didn't know it as well as we can see it now. Until the Internet we really couldn't trade information as rapidly and concisely as we now can. And the means of comparison have grown and accelerated in the digital age. And we all held different views once. Indeed, we were different people then, and are even now still changing.

Personally, I sympathize with every writer who tries to present a view. One tries to be perfect in one's own writing, but one falls short continually. Everything is published with almost no time to rewrite. Nothing gets slept on anymore. There is so much to parse on the fly - and then to present an actionable summary? I don't look for perfect in anyone's writing anymore.

Given all the above, b's own writing is almost miraculously superb, in my opinion.


And what an enjoyable thread this has been so far. It reminds me of the tremendous respect that welled in me when I first started reading MoA comments. Everyone calmly presents their pitch. Some things get picked up and further hashed out. The information transferred is really quite remarkable. Many thanks to all.

Posted by: Grieved | Sep 21 2020 1:19 utc | 69

@ juliania | Sep 20 2020 21:28 utc | 41

". . . I always remember film of the masses of people lining the tracks when FDR's funeral train rolled by. No other presidential passing has earned such an accolade . . ."

"When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd"'d
Walt Whitman, for Lincoln . . .

Posted by: AntiSpin | Sep 21 2020 1:23 utc | 70

uncle tungsten | Sep 20 2020 22:11 utc | 52:
james | Sep 20 2020 23:27 utc | 61:
Grieved | Sep 21 2020 1:07 utc | 69:

Thanks for the feedback. I should say I learned some things reading Levine’s piece, and he’s certainly entitled to his views on Taibbi’s recent writing (“angry dad”), so I don’t mean to trash it, but it seems like whatever is going on between him, Taibbi, and Mark Ames needs to be worked out by them and doesn’t have to involve us, and Levine’s headline definitely wrote a check that the piece he wrote could not cash.

Posted by: David G | Sep 21 2020 1:30 utc | 71

@31 v, thanks for your reply and thoughts about Larouche and Ehret. Good to know!

@26 @70 Grieved, thanks! What you articulated so well is how I feel too. There can be value extracted from an article or post, even if we might not fully agree with some or even many parts of it.

karlof @34, vk @27, v again @39, and juliana @41, thanks for your perspectives on that too.

Learning as I go, including from the many invaluable comments here, trying to connect the dots ...

Posted by: Canadian Cents | Sep 21 2020 2:08 utc | 72

@ james | 67

Craig Murray is good on the Assange trial, but censors anything that favors Putin. When a (Russian) Tatiana BTL on Murray's blog brought up Moldavia her comment thread was vanished in Stalin / Guardian CIF style.

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 21 2020 2:14 utc | 73

Xi is coming to speak at the UNGA and Trump has chosen not to speak there from the latest I have read.

Is this the point at which the US leaves the UN? It would not be a surprise to me given all the international posturing like the snap-back BS. It seems that taking a position against the US regarding Iran also provides the EU with another leg to reject the Nord Stream II stoppage.

The Merry-go-round of empire is spinning furiously, eh? Does it churn itself into greed butter around the post of avarice or do the parts of the Merry-go-round start breaking off and causing collateral damage? The latter seems to be what is happening to some degree but it seems it could go critical at any point.

It would make for a great movie if it weren't reality....or what passes for it these days.

Below are recent Reuters quotes about the WeChat/TikTok ring of the current circus

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. judge early Sunday blocked the Trump administration from requiring Apple Inc and Alphabet Inc’s Google to remove Chinese-owned messaging app WeChat for downloads by late Sunday.
Separately, the Commerce Department late Saturday said it was delaying enforcement of another order issued Friday that would also have banned U.S. app stores from offering TikTok starting late Sunday.

The one-week delay came after U.S. President Donald Trump on Saturday blessed a deal with TikTok owner ByteDance and U.S. companies Oracle Corp and Walmart Inc to create a new company to handle TikTok’s U.S. operations

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 21 2020 2:36 utc | 74

There is a posting at ZH (no link) related to global debt to GDP ratio and how it has gone vertical since Covid-19 (largest Quarterly jump ever according to BIS...241% to 252%)

The quote from the article speaks to how short the fuse is getting

The chart also confirms that central bank inflation targets are higher, much higher than the ""official 2%: to erase this debt, central banks needs inflation to be in the 10%+ range. Anything below that would require debt defaults instead of inflation to wipe away the debt... and that is unacceptable.

A 10% inflation rate would impoverish all the savers of the world and cause genocide on a significant percentage at the bottom of the human pecking order without any savings....because you can count on wages not keeping pace with inflation and there is not a united labor front of any sort to strike for higher wages.....The US Shock Doctrine event is under way and gathering steam.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 21 2020 3:10 utc | 75

As a follow up to my comment # 75 about Xi coming to speak to the UNGA I just read what the focus is for this session

The theme of this year's UN high-level sessions is "The Future We Want, the UN We Need: Reaffirming Our Collective Commitment to Multilateralism."

Now I understand why Trump will not attend and it will be interesting see what the press coverage is of it and if there is an uptick in "other important developments" like the purported Iranian threat to the US ambassador to South Africa or another Novichok almost poisoning.....all this to maintain that jackboot of global private finance in the world.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 21 2020 3:33 utc | 76

@ Fec | Sep 21 2020 1:01 utc | 68.. thanks fec... i had read that article too when it came out.. i agree with you.. i think they are both fine writers and hopefully they can work together more then not! i like what @ 70 grieved has to say on this topic and i agree with @72 david gs additional comment too! cheers..

@ Antonym | Sep 21 2020 2:14 utc | 74... that may be so.. no one is perfect.. take the good and leave the rest... craig murrays work on the topic of assange is stellar...

Posted by: james | Sep 21 2020 3:42 utc | 77

gone for a good week... happy trails folks..

Posted by: james | Sep 21 2020 3:43 utc | 78

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 20 2020 23:54 utc | 65

Sniff test:- BBC + global investigative journalists hmmm is this the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ) again or perhaps Integrity Initiatives stable of paid journalists?

The documents were provided to BuzzFeed News, which shared them with the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists and more than 100 news organizations in 88 countries.

Posted by: Mao | Sep 21 2020 4:48 utc | 79

Statement by FinCEN Regarding Unlawfully Disclosed Suspicious Activity Reports
Immediate Release

September 01, 2020

The Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) is aware that various media outlets intend to publish a series of articles based on unlawfully disclosed Suspicious Activity Reports (SARs), as well as other sensitive government documents, from several years ago. As FinCEN has stated previously, the unauthorized disclosure of SARs is a crime that can impact the national security of the United States, compromise law enforcement investigations, and threaten the safety and security of the institutions and individuals who file such reports. FinCEN has referred this matter to the U.S. Department of Justice and the U.S. Department of the Treasury’s Office of Inspector General.

Posted by: Mao | Sep 21 2020 5:00 utc | 80

@44 Tannenhouser, I think as dh-mtl @55, karlof1 @60, and james @61, I would question the premise that being a Baptist means leaning right in political views.

For example, according to a 2016 Pew report U.S. religious groups and their political leanings:

American Baptist Churches: 41% Republican, 42% Democrat, 16% independent
Southern Baptist Convention: 64% Republican, 26% Democrat, 10% independent
National Baptist Convention: 5% Republican, 87% Democrat, 8% independent

So clearly different Baptist groups in the US have different political leanings. Perhaps you were thinking of Baptists from the Southern Baptist Convention?

Of those three, I would guess the first grouping probably corresponds more closely to Baptists in Canada than the other two groups, and Tommy Douglas probably fell in the Canadian equivalent of the 16% politically-independent Baptists.

This from the Wikipedia page on Tommy Douglas may help explain his pursuit of social justice: "During his six years at the college, he was influenced by the Social Gospel movement, which combined Christian principles with social reform. Liberal-minded professors at Brandon encouraged students to question their fundamentalist religious beliefs. Christianity, they suggested, was just as concerned with the pursuit of social justice as it was with the struggle for individual salvation. Douglas took a course in socialism at Brandon and studied Greek philosophy. He came first in his class during his first three years, then competed for gold medals in his last three with a newly arrived student named Stanley Knowles. Both later became ministers of religion and prominent left-wing politicians."

So to answer your question, I would say Canada's socialized health care system came from the 'left' and not the 'right'.

Fun fact: Tommy Douglas was actor Keifer Sutherland's grandfather.

I would also say that Tommy Douglas would probably want people to think beyond left vs right, going by his telling of the story of Mouseland.

Posted by: Canadian Cents | Sep 21 2020 5:01 utc | 81

Wall Street demands still more Fed money

When Wall Street receives a major boost from the US Federal Reserve it can always be relied upon to come back and demand more. This phenomenon, one could say a law of political economy, has been on display again this week.

On Wednesday, the central bank’s Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) set out its new framework for monetary policy. It committed itself to maintaining interest rates at near zero levels, for as far as the eye can see. It would also maintain its purchases of financial assets, at least to the tune of $120 billion a month—nearly $1.5 trillion a year—and intervene even more aggressively should there be a return of financial turbulence.

Posted by: Mao | Sep 21 2020 5:06 utc | 82

Treasury flagged foreign money flowing to Hunter Biden-tied firms as ‘suspicious’

Senate panels investigating whether law enforcement, U.S. intel turned blind eye to concerns.

A Treasury Department agency that polices financial threats such as money laundering flagged several foreign transactions to Hunter Biden-connected businesses as "suspicious" during the end of the Obama administration and the beginning of the Trump administration.

The concerns from the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) were highlighted in Suspicious Activity Reports turned over to Senate committees over the last year in conjunction with investigations into the Russia and Ukraine scandals, according to several officials familiar with the evidence.

As those Senate investigations wind toward the issuance of their first official report later this month, an essential question has emerged: Did U.S. law enforcement or intelligence agencies do anything to determine if the money flowing to Vice President Joe Biden's son posed any criminal or intelligence threats? Officials at Treasury, FBI and the Office of Director of National Intelligence declined comment.

Senate Democrats first called attention to the existence of the SARs in a little-noticed letter late last year and are now bracing for the flagged financial transactions to be a major revelation in a joint report they expect to be published by the GOP-led Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs and the Senate Finance Committees as early as next week.

Posted by: Mao | Sep 21 2020 5:09 utc | 83

The Post Millennial @TPostMillennial

Joe Biden just said 200 million people could die from the coronavirus by the time he finishes his speech.

That’s almost two-thirds of the United States’ population.


Posted by: Mao | Sep 21 2020 5:14 utc | 84

Yelp data shows 60% of business closures due to the coronavirus pandemic are now permanent

Yelp on Wednesday released its latest Economic Impact Report, revealing business closures across the U.S. are increasing as a result of the coronavirus.

As of Aug, 31, 163,735 businesses have indicated on Yelp that they have closed, a 23% increase since mid-July.

According to Yelp data, permanent closures have reached 97,966, representing 60% of closed businesses that won’t be reopening.

Posted by: Mao | Sep 21 2020 5:19 utc | 85

The EU Commission said earlier this week it would allow UK clearing houses to continue processing international payments from firms in the EU for another two years, stepping back from earlier threats to cut the City of London off from the EU finance market.

Brussels cannot afford to lock out UK finance firms even after a no-deal Brexit - because the euro currency is a "massive Ponzi scheme."

Posted by: Mao | Sep 21 2020 5:24 utc | 86

Mao @ 85:

I'm sure at the rate Joe Biden might make a speech without a teleprompter, 200 million in the US could very well die from the coronavirus by the time he finishes it. They'd be very elderly by then.

Posted by: Jen | Sep 21 2020 5:29 utc | 87

Andrei Raevsky (The Saker):

We have lost a real giant (Stephen F. Cohen has died)!

Posted by: Mao | Sep 21 2020 5:31 utc | 88

Andrei Martyanov:

Russia Steals Everything

And Jesus Christ was an American and was born in Kalamazoo, MI. It is a well-known fact. So Donald Trump, evidently briefed by his utterly competent and crushingly precise aids, knows now that:

“We have a super duper rocket. I call it super duper because it is 5 times faster than conventional rockets. But Russia got this information from the Obama administration, it kidnapped it, and built its own rocket. But now we have such a (rocket) that is much, much faster.”

Absolutely, and, in fact, Yuri Gagarin was American too as are 3M22 Zircon and Avangard hypersonic system. Here is a video of Vladimir Putin congratulating and honoring a Chief Designer of Avangard system Gerbert Efremov.

And it was this man, Efremov, revealed to the public for the first time, who responded to Trump's claims. Speaking to Rossiyskaya Gazeta he was straight to the point (in Russian): "We experimented with hypersonic weapons in Soviet times, when Obama was still in his adolescence."

But as we all know, mathematics and physics were also invented in the United States and I am sure Trump will be briefed on this crucial fact shortly. But jokes aside, one can cut US desperation with the knife, this how dense and tense this desperation is. Spinning Bullshit, the only skill US pundits have, can go only so far, then cognitive dissonances, some of them extremely severe, begin their onset and people start experiencing all kinds of psychological and psychiatric disorders.

There are fields in which the United States will never have advantage over Russia, in the best case scenario for the US, plus there are many fields in which the United States is not a competitor for Russia. Here is one such field:

Posted by: Mao | Sep 21 2020 5:48 utc | 89

Andrei Martyanov:

Practical Geoeconomics

Posted by: Mao | Sep 21 2020 5:50 utc | 90

Posted by: Jen | Sep 21 2020 5:29 utc | 88

Posted by: Mao | Sep 21 2020 6:01 utc | 91

Why was Saskatchewan the first jurisdiction to have universal health care?

I don't see the difference between Alberta and Saskatchewan as a result of immigration. It has more to do with Alberta's politics turned right with the election of the Social Credit party in the 30's and the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation CCF assuming power in Saskatchewan in 1944.

Both provinces suffered during the depression and dust bowl of the dirty thirties but took different political paths for dealing with it. Both had strong leaders to promote their path forward. Did Alberta's cowboy culture of individualism have a part in the Social Credit succeeding? I don't know. Perhaps it did. Alberta was richer, especially after oil as discovered in the 40's. Saskatchewan's population was smaller, perhaps they felt the need to work together as one.

I grew up attending a Baptist church. At first is was very conservative then grew a social conscience in the 60's-70's (with a Scottish Pastor mirroring Tommy Douglas's Scottish heritage). It later reverted slowly back to a more traditional evangelical teachings.

Posted by: Tom | Sep 21 2020 6:16 utc | 92

Mao @ 85 & Jen @ 88


Is old, sleepy Joe ready for this Xi Jinping?

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 21 2020 6:19 utc | 93

When a (Russian) Tatiana BTL on Murray's blog brought up Moldavia her comment thread was vanished in Stalin / Guardian CIF style.

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 21 2020 2:14 utc | 74

No good demanding ideological purity, as you do. That thread, having started tangentially, was getting increasingly off-topic. It's funny really seeing a commenter who demands ideological purity, accusing others of stalinism.

Posted by: Laguerre | Sep 21 2020 7:46 utc | 94

Posted by: Tom | Sep 21 2020 6:16 utc | 93 says: 'I don't see the difference between Alberta and Saskatchewan as a result of immigration.'

Well, actually there was quite a big difference in immigration between the two.
Northern Alberta was settled by Ukrainians, while Southern Alberta had a substantial immigration from the U.S., which is the source of their right wing politics.

Unlike Saskatchewan, there was no substantial German immigration into Alberta.

Posted by: dh-mtl | Sep 21 2020 8:52 utc | 95

That delusional statement of David Friedman would be funny if the topic wouldn`t be so dead serious.

The fact that the Palaestinians are now diplmatically isolated from the Gulf states doesn`t mean they are finished and remain diplomatically isolated. It just means they will look for new partners somewhere else. And where will this be?

Israel created the Hesbollah in Lebanon through it`s invasion of 1982 and subsequent occupation. It now creates the Hesbollah of Palaestine.

Posted by: m | Sep 21 2020 9:11 utc | 96

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 20 2020 22:08 utc | 50

Thanks for providing that link.

I don't really hear how he boasts about being hailed for the Obama Administration's ME policies. He actually denies it and says that that was a smear campaign by Sheldon Adelson acolytes who ran a story on that in the NYT. Clinton and the State Departement bureaucrats hailed him for his critical book on the Zionist settler policy and the Likud wing of the Zionist State when his father gave a release party for this book in 2013. That makes sense, since I've read in Varoufakis's book 'Adults in the Room' that when Varoufakis was short-time Finance Minister he went on one occasion to Washington to meet Obama where Obama told him that he, Obama, was sick and tired of having to deal with Netanyahu and Likud's lobbying apparatus. That was in 2015 and was probably a remark to Netanyahu's lobbying against the JCPOA.

Notwithstanding Max Blumenthal is a hypocrite for criticising other people for their crusade to topple the Assad governemnt and leaving out that he himself propagated for the overthrow of the Syrian government for almost 5 years. He has a hard time dodging Robert Scheer's question how his father, Sidney Blumenthal (and to some extent his mother), was involved in shaping Hillary's foreign policy and how it was to grow up within the Beltway as son of one of Clinton's top advisers.
He is a odd person to say the least.

Posted by: vato | Sep 21 2020 9:39 utc | 97

Re: the Michael Tracey tweet on the U.S. gerontocracy.

I thought I remembered a photo from a couple years back of U.S.-China trade talks, with a stark difference in age between the U.S. delegation led by the genuinely decrepit Wilbur Ross, and the more youthful Chinese side, but as I search now the pictures that come up don’t show the distinction so clearly.

In any case, I’m very against making any individual person feel they don’t belong somewhere or can’t do something because they’re the supposedly wrong age, or race, or whatever. But in the aggregate, I agree there is something wrong with the country being led by this ancient cohort, who show no ability to think in any different way even with them having steered it into the morass in which it currently finds itself.

Posted by: David G | Sep 21 2020 9:40 utc | 98

Chinese President Xi Jinping and the Communist Party's Central Committee have laid out a plan for a ‘new era’ in which the party has better control over private business in China.

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 21 2020 9:56 utc | 99

Now they call themselves "Libertarians", but these are your fascists of always, now spreading fake news and hatred non stop through multiple bot accounts in social media so as to manipulate elections eveywhere, especially in LatinAmerica.

Thread on investigative work on manipulation of elections and political protests in Argentina which throws the same actors and funding behind linked to the US Trump administration and liberal think tanks, as well as corporations who manage big data like Cambridge Analytica already known from even before the Brexit directly to the Bolivia coup...They end bluntly calling for a coup after declaring "elections fraud" and the elected government "illegitimate", following a pattern which start sounding familiar to everyone who follows geopolitics...

It is funny that then it is the Trumpsters who are most worried about "voting fraud" with respect to US elections. Knowing what they do everywhere, has anyone any doubt on that they will use it no doubt in the US as well?
What do you think is all that noise about "rebellion of the troops" and so on our "libetarians" bloggers are lately menacing with?

Translating not the whole thread which is very long and thorough, but the most telling so that you understand what is going on...

I analyze different destabilization campaigns to the Government of Argentina with innumerable bots paid with millions of dollars stained with Mexican oil, Bolivian lithium and Colombian blood, with the regional help of the libertarian vendors of Atlas Network. I OPEN THREAD

We started by analyzing the HT #NadieConAxel, deployed during the mobilizations of the Buenos Aires police, with more than 220,000 tweets in a single day. The most important accounts are the same ones that supported the #ArgentinaSupportsTrump or #ArgentinaApoyaABolsonaro campaign.

That is why it is not surprising that the different campaigns that spread this opinion matrix that revolves around the libertarian foundations of the Atlas Network and the hundreds of thousands of bots that usually retweet Trump and whitewash him on networks appear labeled "US Politics"

In these graphs we can see the distribution of tweets in time and space, we can see that many tweets were posted outside Argentina, the Philippines and Honduras are striking, and the most used word is "Police" due to the agitation of the collective.

The author of the tweet with the most RTs has the same profile as this entire digital environment, hate messages targeting groups, RTs to accounts of Atlas Network foundations (such as Eugenia Rolón from Fundación Libertad), tweets in favor of Trump and winks at dictatorships like Videla's.

This phenomenon of appealing to dictatorships in a loving way is increasingly common in this digital environment, it is a constant also in Spain, Chile, Brazil, Mexico ... Here is an example of the latest analysis of Chile and pro-Pinochet accounts:

Other members of libertarian foundations, such as Agustín Laje, president of Fundación Libre and member of the ultra-Catholic sect El Yunque (Hazte Oir / CitizenGo) participated in the conversation without using HT. he was trained in "counterterrorism" in the US.

If we analyze the accounts that received the most RTs, we see that the usual accounts of the opinion matrix appear. The first coincides with who started the tendencies to support Trump and Bolsonaro. We already talked about unusual activity from "Fat Monster"

If we analyze any of these accounts with this coup pattern, we will see that the accounts that make up the opinion matrix will be the most retweeted, such as the macro sector and the environment of libertarian foundations financed in the US such as Laje and Adorni.

Let's not forget Facebook's agreement as the main partner in the fight against disinformation with the Atlantic Council, nor that the founder of CLS Strategies is the director of the Atlantic Council's LATAM agency. Facebook finances AC and Chequeado.

Let's not forget that the connection with Macri of the Atlas Network Foundations is more than deep, since several of them were part of the Government after winning with their support financed from the USA.

Not only that, but Macri won the elections thanks to Cambridge Analytica, before Trump, Brexit or Bolsonaro. In the "Great Hack" it even appears in the promotional video of the company as a success.

In addition, it was subsequently corroborated in the United Kingdom's parliamentary headquarters. Nix himself, the director of the company, confirmed the use of a dirty digital campaign called "Anti-Kirchnerista".

If we analyze which were the accounts that put the most tweets (links out) in the HT, we detect that the number of accounts that put more than 200 tweets is very high, and that many of them have 8 digits as a false account indicator.

This was not the only campaign of this type, shortly before the HT #GolpeDeEstadoK was launched with more than 400,000 tweets, where the protagonists are from the same environment. Thousands of bots with the same matrices as the previous campaign and in other countries with regional Atlas Network actors.

In these graphs you can see the concentration of the 400,000 tweets over time and the tweets with the most RTs, the tweets of two of Bolsonaro's opinion matrix in Brazil are striking. Also who starts using HT and more important accounts. In this El Presto stands out.

Precisely El Presto (from the libertarian environment and promoter of fake news and a message of hatred towards groups constant in the analysis of any country) was arrested for threatening the vice president with death in networks. It has also been known if he was affiliated with the dictator Videla.

The Presto also makes any account you create instantly grow by tens of thousands, such as GordoMonstruo, in fact the followers send them to them in trays of 1,000 from the US, the same matrix of the Coup d'état in Bolivia. Only from the alejandxxxx matrix has 100.

Let's go to the analysis, these are the accounts that received the most retweets calling coupists who won the elections democratically, this is an increasingly widespread semantic tactic used by coup leaders.ChauOpereta (8600), Macri2023 (8000) and ElPresto (6200) stand out.

It needs a serious debate from society, these strategies based on lies and hatred and the permissiveness of the platforms have another important element, impunity ... nobody does anything, while we see how democracy is taken from us.

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Sep 21 2020 11:52 utc | 100

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