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September 10, 2020

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'President' Guaido asks the military to block elections in Venezuela

>>>In an address on social media, Guaido urged the military high command to join a "unity pact" of opposition forces to block the holding of the December 6 polls.<<<
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/guaido-urges-venezuela-military-back-221853629.html asks military to block elections.

So in the name of democracy, the U.S. wants to install an unelected official as President who doesn't believe in elections. FAIR points out that Honduras is guilty of the very infraction that Pompeo accused Maduro of doing regarding suppressing opposition parties https://fair.org/home/alex-main-on-bolivia-coup-carol-anderson-on-voter-suppression/

We are such evil hypocrites. So what is our real reason, it's not oil, it's all about power, bullying, and fear of socialist govts succeeding no matter how small and harmless they are.

Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Sep 10 2020 13:41 utc | 1

Interesting article by F William Engdahl

https://m.journal-neo.org/2020/09/07/gates-foundation-is-also-destroying-africa-s-food-economy/

Posted by: Down South | Sep 10 2020 14:21 utc | 2

Hey!

Saw a program last night that I think could take it’s place in history.

Netflix – The Social Dilemma

"Social media affects imperceptible changes in actions and perceptions"
that are scaled out to millions of users. These effects are driven by algorithms
that seek to create addictive attention
from users and direct and thus monetize this attention.

Though I was thrilled with this program there was one ironic fly in the ointment.

The program also dealt much with how technology is making it harder and harder
to distinguish truth from falsehood.

It is deliciously sweet irony that the program itself promoted the “Russia Facebook Posts” nonsense
and how Putin was supposedly trying to create discord in this country via these infamous posts.

The "Facebook posts by Russians designed to create discord" that the program pushed on it's users was face-plant worthy.
Picture an upside down pyramid, at the bottom tiny point of that pyramid are a few thousand "Russian Facebook" posts.
At the ever-expanding top of that pyramid are the millions upon millions upon millions of claims pushed to users
about what those Russian posts were trying to achieve. Which had a wider affect, the Russian posts or the claims
like Netflix pushed to users? The original claim had an agenda that, crudely put, is "Russia is bad and we need to
spend billions in defense against it and Russia was working to help the other side so the other side is suspect".
The claims originated during the burning heat of the Russiagate period when people were being told that Trump is
a Russian stooge.
(Let us not forget that Mueller's lawyers dropped the case against those Russians as the only evidence they had
that they worked for the Kremlin was a New York Times article!)

The cynic in me says that the Hollywood-Pentagon connection dropped that fly in the ointment.
Regardless, on the whole I cannot recommend this program more strongly.
It should have a place in history.

Posted by: librul | Sep 10 2020 14:50 utc | 3

So Germany is handing over said evidence of (ultra-HD high-test most lethal variant ever created) Novichok poisoning to none other than scandal-ridden OPCW.
It becomes ever clearer that the game is afoot.

Posted by: nwwoods | Sep 10 2020 15:04 utc | 4

Brazil continues to disintegrate as a nation-State. This time, on the economy:

[VIDEO] Famished mob desperately tries to ransack a turned meat truck in São Paulo

Abolition of food security policy makes rice, soy and others' prices to skyrocked in Brazil

That's why Lenin and Stalin were right and whoever you believe or your politician believe is wrong: if left unchecked, the peasant class (agribusiness) will starve the proletariat to death.

--//--

Confidence fairy of bourgeois economics (ideology) strikes again:

Mr. Trump Knew It Was Deadly and Airborne: He lied about the coronavirus anyway

You see, kids: one must not, under any circumstances, "spook the markets". They are a very delicate creature.

--//--

Germany admits it's lying; starts next stage of hybrid warfare against Russia:

Germany hands over Navalny’s test results to OPCW

The OPCW, however, stated it didn't receive the test results.

--//--

Self-realizing prophecy?

Deutsche Bank Predicts New World ‘Disorder’, Cold War Between US and China

--//--

Once a shithole, always a shithole:

Huge Fire That Erupted in Beirut Port Month After Blast, Finally Contained

That's why socialist revolutions happen (or should happen) in the Third World. They always get the short stick in the capitalist game (aka "the game is rigged"). See India.

--//--

Problem? What problem?

‘Nothing nefarious at all’: Backlash as ex-NSA chief, involved in mass surveillance revealed by Snowden, joins Amazon board

There is no injustice in the USA: only losers and winners.

Posted by: vk | Sep 10 2020 15:09 utc | 5

@Christian J. Chuba
Some interesting details about Canada’s role in the Venezuela fiasco.

https://yvesengler.com/2020/08/19/does-trudeau-need-an-interventionvenezuela-plan-a-path-of-misery-and-failure/

Posted by: nwwoods | Sep 10 2020 15:12 utc | 6

Woodward Book Exposes General James Mattis' Plot To Overthrow The US Government

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/woodward-book-exposes-general-james-mattis-plot-overthrow-us-government

Posted by: librul | Sep 10 2020 15:14 utc | 7

b, prev. post:

Sure, the policies of a Biden presidency would look more polished and presentable than the boorish ways in which Trump acts. That is the main reason why the Washington establishment rejects Trump and supports Biden.

More! DT is loathed because he is an outsider and took both parties by storm, and won. Inconceivable! A boorish elderly dodgy TV-real-estate failed mogul type, a laughing stock, a nobody.

Trump showed up the falsity and fragility of the Duopoly (..so he is branded an authoritarian, potential dictator), threatened to ‘drain the swamp’, and though he hasn’t done anything just pronouncing those words is ‘wondrous’ (.. so they call him a fascist, misogynist, racist, even rapist - implied - etc.)

DT proposed instoring 'normal' relations with Russia thereby preventing a Russia-China alliance - Russia doesn’t ‘steal’ USA jobs (say), to stop the WOT (Horrors! but even the media has bowed to that one, Muslim terrorists no longer roam the land, or in Syria … ISIS is defeated..say...)

Globalists, RTP warmongers, neo-libs + neo-cons, the lackey MSM, the upper managerial class, the pseudo-intellectuals in the 20% were scared even *before* he was elected (they envisaged their comfortable positions challenged), but their pre-moves were clumsy, and may now backfire… (Steele Dossier etc.)

DT managed to enthuse his base of deplorables. The low-down plebs, the poor, the ‘minorities’ should! be politically invisible, shut up, be slaves or nothing, and vote Dem, because IDPOL, leaving the PTB (Mega-Corps and their paid-up cronies, to make is short) a free hand. Tea-Party Agitation or Occupy Scenes maintain the image of lively streety politics, but *noproblemo*, they can be turned off at will.

As the PTB, Congress and the Dems, for the most part, endorse his policies or follow along or make phoney public objections that amount to nothing (e.g. are back-pedalled), as real econo-pol issues are to be kept away from the unwashed public at *all costs,* all that is left is personal rivalry and name calling. (see above.)

O-droner mocks DT in public:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHckZCxdRkA

Trump attacks Killary in riposte:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmvxx_YbDsM&t=23s

This is not a pro-Trump post. Just the latests huckster.


Posted by: Noirette | Sep 10 2020 15:32 utc | 8

The Social Dilemma ahh ... a non-political topic and one that's been twisting around in my head

The corporate world is driven by fads, there is a reason that Dilbert is/was massively popular, I work for a well known tech company and our CEO and his immediate minions now believe that working from home is better than the Second Coming.
'It's more efficient, I can eat a meal with my family, it's saving us money' and have all but declared that they are going to blow up all of our officers forever. BTW this is probably good for some workers but all because it works for you does not mean that it is good for everyone. Not to worry, they will figure that out after a few rounds of layoffs when productivity dives, zoom is okay but it can't do everything.

In any case, started thinking about the change in the social life of my children ... College social life non-existent w/remote classes followed by working from home followed by mostly rude interactions on social media, how are they going to meet people? BTW we are rude to people we do not see face to face, especially when anonymous. I am a pretty lonely person but the few good personal relationships I've had have been from work. It's sad to see that go away.

Hmm ... how do I tell my boys to look for visa wives from Vietnam/Thailand or Russia without sounding creepy, I don't think I can but maybe I can send them a message online anonymously, any opinions on who has the best visa wives?

Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Sep 10 2020 15:45 utc | 9

The narrative about the "bombing" of the Navalny HQ by two masked men that threw a bottle containing some chemical in the room, forcing all to flee and causing a few to feel unwell, reminds me of the following anecdote:

A since deceased friend of mine, while in his early twenties, decided to
do a prank at a Movie theater.

He bought with him a small jar filled with Mercaptane and discreetly opened the jar, set it under his seat and departed.

When the odor started filling the theater, patrons started exiting hurriedly until there was nobody left in the facility.

I guess some mercaptan based product would have the same effect as what happenend to Navalny's followers.

Posted by: CarlD | Sep 10 2020 15:53 utc | 10

fear of socialist govts succeeding no matter how small and harmless they are...
Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Sep 10 2020 13:41 utc | 1

It's what Chomsky refers to as "the threat of a good example". Imagine if the profits from harvesting natural resources in the US and other western "democracies" went to pay for healthcare, education and infrastructure. The Horror!!!

Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 10 2020 16:19 utc | 11

Posted by: Noirette | Sep 10 2020 15:32 utc | 8

Thanks for those videos of our "elites", a shifty looking bunch if I ever saw one. What a bunch of shallow nitwits. Late stage decadence in an imperial court, here we come.

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 10 2020 16:26 utc | 12

Nord stream II will be ready at the end of the year

Posted by: Nick | Sep 10 2020 16:30 utc | 13

Georgian citizens being used as laboratory rats, immunity for US officials, scientists and for pharma giant Gilead.

"US military scientists have been deployed to Georgia for research on bioterrorism agents at the Lugar Center, according to the new data leak. These bio-agents have the potential to be aerosolized and used as bioweapons. Among them anthrax, tularemia, Brucella, Crimean-Congo Hemorrhagic Fever, Hantavirus, Y. pestis (causing the disease plague)."

"The Pentagon has planned to turn Georgia into its largest biological research center overseas, combining its military resources with the resources of the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) in Georgia."

And they want to scare us to death over a nerve agent "from Russia" that can't kill its targets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3mhT-dN9wQ&feature=youtu.be

http://dilyana.bg/georgia-cover-up-of-deaths-in-3-3-billion-pharmaceutical-project-documents/

Posted by: Tom | Sep 10 2020 16:30 utc | 14

Pompeo and Outlaw US Empire spreading lies as usual or so this Global Times article reveals.

Yesterday I wanted to share this article about China's proposal for global communications security that's being rejected by the Outlaw Empire.

This article reveals China has approved 10 vaccine formulas for clinical trials including one that's a nasal spray. It appears the frequency of China bashing done by TrumpCo is related to growing gap between in abilities as China forges ahead while the Empire continues to drown in its own excesses.

Along with the bashing is the siccing of the Empire's Australian and Indian vassals to promote tensions with China as this article recaps regarding Aussie efforts. Apparently, key Aussie interests don't like what's happening:

"In an opinion article titled 'Memo to generals: China is our inescapable economic destiny' this week, the Sydney Morning Herald has raised a long overdue question: people who care about Australia's economic future are wondering what game the country's defense and foreign affairs experts think they're playing."

Furthermore, "The 53rd Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) Foreign Ministers' Meeting and related meetings, including the 10th East Asia Summit Foreign Ministers' Meeting, kicked off online on Wednesday, and is schedule to end on Saturday." This article reports on the Empire's attempts to Divide and Rule while using what remains of its gains from its previous terrorism in the region.

And for those barflies that missed this from the Afghan thread, here again is Bastian's description of what we're fighting to reject:

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -- Frederic Bastian

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 10 2020 17:17 utc | 15

Posted by: librul | Sep 10 2020 14:50 utc | 3
(Netflix - The Social Dilemma)

Thanks. Interesting...
SBS.com.au broadcast a doco called the Facebook Dilemma, in 2 x 1 hour parts, on Monday & Tuesday this week.
I had it running in the background and was only half-concentrating on it. Some of your observations rang a bell so I'm wondering if it's the same program? The gist was TV journos giving Facebook a chance to respond to the numerous accusations made against it.

I'm mainly interested in confirming my bias against Facebook's Official bullshit. My takeaway is that ALL of Facebook's senior staffers are chosen for their obfuscation & spin-doctoring skills :-)

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 10 2020 17:18 utc | 16

Yesterday I noted Putin's videoconference with the SCO nations's foreign ministers and lamented the poor amount of detail in the partial transcript, which has since been rectified, although it remains short since the meeting was brief. This bit I found most interesting as worthy of sharing:

"Meanwhile, it is gratifying to know that other countries and international organisations are increasingly interested in working with the SCO. We have received 16 requests to join our organisation as member states, observers or dialogue partners. This illustrates the authority our organisation enjoys internationally." [My Emphasis]

The countervailing power arrayed against the Outlaw US Empire and its vassals continues to grow!!

Today, Putin's addressing Russia's economy, particularly the employment issue the Outlaw US Empire refuses to deal with:

"We have taken unprecedented measures to support those who lost their jobs. We increased the maximum unemployment benefit to the subsistence wage. But this has put up registered unemployment. Those who did not register for unemployment pay before are doing this now that the payment has improved, and so the number of jobless has grown accordingly. This is clear. We also complemented these payments with child allowance.

"I would like to remind you that these measures were initially a temporary payment for a limited period of time. However, the labour market situation remains serious, as I have mentioned. We must continue to support those who have not yet found new jobs. Colleagues, today I expect you to tell me about your proposals for organising this assistance.

"At the same time, I would like to remind you about the priority objective set to the Government – to restore the 2019 employment level before the end of 2021 by bringing unemployment down to 4.7 percent of the economically active population, as I have already said."

I doubt if Russia falsifies its employment data like the Outlaw US Empire does, but I'm not 100% certain. That caveat stated, I'll take the current rate of 6.3% cited by Putin as realistic, which differs massively from the 28% cited by Shadowstats. For further details, I suggest reading the general discussion at Shadowstats home page. The key takeaway is Trump will have to deal with the reality of a very dislocated economy mired in Depression, much but not all related to the ongoing Bush-Obama Depression that began in 2007-8.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 10 2020 17:55 utc | 19

Ian Welsh, Sept Covid Update: get ready for a second wave to hit, mainly the poor. The US still needs a national lockdown.

https://www.ianwelsh.net/september-us-covid-update/

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WSWS points out the obvious: the Woodward tapes reveal Trump's crime against the country (lying about the looming pandemic and about China's forthrightness) but also the crime of the media and Democrats who knew the crisis was coming and said nothing! The tapes are just as much an indictment of the US media for sitting on these revelations! Every lie of American liberalism is being exposed, in this case that the existence of a privately owned media guarantees public security.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/09/10/pers-s10.html

Posted by: Prof K | Sep 10 2020 18:12 utc | 20

Prof K @20--

Must agree that BigLie Media and D-Party hacks are all accessories to mass murder. I rarely cite this author, but her rant is correct, although it doesn't go far enough. Woodward long ago morally compromised himself, but sitting on his evidence makes him as guilty as Trump. I wonder how his ex-partner Bernstein views him now since in his words this constitutes "one of the great presidential felonies of all time."

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 10 2020 18:29 utc | 21

"It is just too obvious: As China veers towards Iran and the Middle East in search of energy-supply security, the temptation of any success with forcing a hawkish stance on China will be to link the two (Iran and China), and to try to push for a ‘kill-two-birds-with-one-stone’ policy stance."

This quote from one of your last entries was very strange. There's no logic here because in late 2019 China had decided to terminate a large gas investment in Iran, thereby signalling it was going to stay away from investing in Iran as US relations improved. After relations with the US went south in 2020, it is now considering a huge investment and military pact.

One of the biggest neocons seems to recognize this problem. Far from being kill two birds, taking on both China and Iran just means Iran is going to get a lot more support. Sheldon Adelson has decided to sit out the presidential election this year. He wants to protect his casinos in Macau but I also think he doesn't want to see Trump continue to push China to help Iran with the implications it has for Israeli security.

So what is really the reason behind some neocons turning on China regardless of what it means for Israel?

Posted by: recon | Sep 10 2020 18:32 utc | 22

So apparently there is an existing, operating Eilat-Ashkelon oil pipeline, kept rather quiet until now, which may get considerably more significant as Gulf monarchy-Israel relations normalize.
https://www.anti-empire.com/after-uae-deal-israel-set-to-make-a-killing-transporting-gulf-oil/

Posted by: David G | Sep 10 2020 18:32 utc | 23

Prof K | Sep 10 2020 18:12 utc | 20:

Once the lockdowns finally succeed in killing off the human race, that will take care of the problem of person-to-person coronavirus transmission.

Posted by: David G | Sep 10 2020 18:37 utc | 24

RE: the social media problem, TED Talks: Filter Bubbles from 2011. Most folks using Google et al were herded into algorithmic echo chambers without even realizing it. It's similar to being 'ghost banned'...You can't figure out why all your searches on really important stuff keep returning absolute dreck.

Posted by: Dr Wellington Yueh | Sep 10 2020 18:38 utc | 25

@ Posted by: Dr Wellington Yueh | Sep 10 2020 18:38 utc | 25

Dump Google. Use DuckDuckGo
https://duckduckgo.com/

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Sep 10 2020 19:06 utc | 26

craig murray on day 8 in the assange hearing...

Your Man in the Public Gallery – Assange Hearing Day 8

@ 15 karlof1.. thanks for highlighting that quote again.. i will respond later.. have some work today to do..

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -- Frederic Bastian

Posted by: james | Sep 10 2020 19:07 utc | 27

The CFR and other organizations have expressed in action their intentions to use the nation state system to take control over everything from top politics to issue of licence to talk at the bottom.. Five G, controlled access to drinking water, privatization and the like. But here in one article is the proof about rule of law.. and how it has been used to empower the rich to get richer and the poor to remain help deplorables.

you will note https://www.ignytebrands.com/roi-of-branding/

particularly note:
from where do intangible assets.. come?
How does congress make a law that turns hot thin air into a private
property monopoly powered assets. Intangibles when copyrighted
by rule of law or when patented by rule of law are still intangibles,
but now they are also monopolies. Ehat makes them hot thin air
intangibles valuable assets and gives them monopoly power is corrupted
use of the rule of law. With a law there is not monopoly power in
an intangible its something on a piece of paper or a method or something
that is hot thin air.

Once someone thinks of an idea he copyrights it or
patents it, in the same fashion as a private owner
of physical property (say a home) records a deed in the court house.

Once ideas are developed a little the idea can be patented
or the writing copyrighted in a similar recording place to
where and how deeds for real estate are recorded, at the
patent office which operation is paid for by tax dollars,
but used by private monopolist.
This allows the wealthy to buy the patent, copyright or
to license it, and to use it keep all would be
competition from using it.. It is this very
block against competition imposed by rule of law
that accounts for separate of wealthier vs poorer and
it is one great big reason for globalization and
wars in respect of competition against private monopoly owners.

Table: asset mix.. by decade tracks the separation of
governed humanity from its wealth..

tangible 83% 68% 32% 205 16%
intangible 17% 32% 68% 80% 84%
1975 1985 1995 2005 2015

Souce: Intangible Asset Market value Study, 2017 found in the above link

Posted by: snake | Sep 10 2020 19:07 utc | 28

@ Dr Wellington Yueh | Sep 10 2020 18:38 utc | 25

- alternative search engine - https://searx.ninja/ - it is a combination of a bunch of search engines, mostly avoiding google..

Posted by: james | Sep 10 2020 19:10 utc | 29

Lavrov officially links behavior of "Western colleagues" in Skripal, Nalvany, and MH-17 events. Lavrov's humor was in evidence at the end of his answer at the presser where his observation originated:

"The odds are much higher if we put our trust in Arnold Schwarzenegger’s movie character who used to say “trust me” than those who are now trying to play his part in the international arena."

The initial questions and Lavrov's replies were related to the just finished SCO Nations Foreign Minister's Council Meeting. Also in what I'd call a crucial meeting between the FMs of Russia, China, and India, a short PR was released.

Going unnoticed was the meeting and presser related to the meeting of the Intergovernmental Commission on Trade, Economic, Scientific and Technical Cooperation, Minister of Foreign Affairs and Expatriates of the Syrian Arab Republic Walid Muallem and Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Yury Borisov from 7 September in Damascus. There's much I could present from the presser but won't. I do hope barflies will read these as they do contain important information.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 10 2020 19:20 utc | 30

Posted by: librul | Sep 10 2020 15:14 utc | 7

That's bullshit from ZH. The true story was previously reported. Mattis and Coats were discussing about removing Trump by means of legal ways.
There is a law which permits a supermajority of the President's staff to dismiss him if they think he's no more able to do his job.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Sep 10 2020 19:30 utc | 31

@recon 22
Far from being kill two birds, taking on both China and Iran just means Iran is going to get a lot more support.

Yep. The perils of Iran-obsessed hawks having permanent veto power.

Kindof a game China and Israel play with each other... When US-China relations get out of hand, China can simply announce new big plans with Iran, Israeli hawks will freak and broker a deal in exchange for China taking it back.

Posted by: ptb | Sep 10 2020 19:37 utc | 32

So what is really the reason behind some neocons turning on China regardless of what it means for Israel?
Posted by: recon | Sep 10 2020 18:32 utc | 22

Maybe you should reassess what's a neocon in year 2020.

Some of them are now pure China hawks, and don't care so much about Israel anymore.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Sep 10 2020 19:42 utc | 33

@20 Prof K

Although I don't always trust the media myself; they were not downplaying the severe nature of the virus at the time. As a matter of fact some people criticized and accused the media, in other words, of being alarmist, even here, accusing b of same and wondering if he was the same guy.

Therefore, the media did what was right to warn people. Democratic States like Washington and California were the first to declare a state of Emergency. Others soon followed, so neither the media nor Democrats in general were derelict in their duty to warn and protect people. Red states and the right wing news in general were very derelict not only refusing to take the virus seriously but scoffing at guidelines and Trump playing to his base.

Therefore, why should Woodward have revealed proof of what the President was doing when dumb people refused to believe their own eyes?! Woodward personally wasn't downplaying the virus. It was Trump's responsibility alone to come clean and his alone. He put his own supporters at risk for political interest and didn't give a damn!

Posted by: Circe | Sep 10 2020 19:47 utc | 34

Posted by: ptb | Sep 10 2020 19:37 utc | 32

One or two years ago I had a similar hypothesis about Syria/Russia/Israel

It happened three times that Bibi asked Putin not to deliver S300 to Syria. Every time Putin complied. Nobody knows what Putin was offered in that trade. My guess is that the Israeli lobby in USA pushed to influence the US policy according to Putin's wishes.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Sep 10 2020 19:52 utc | 35

Posted by: vk | Sep 10 2020 15:09 utc | 5

That Deutsche Bank report: The age of disorder

Fact is Trump and China agreed on fixed equal trade amounts between US and China in January betting on a good economy for November elections. This trade deal was killed by Corona Virus.

Europe's, especially Germany's trade, would have suffered a lot.

The recent Phase I agreement between the US and China will have a significant negative impact on EU exports of goods. It will probably cost the EU around USD 11 billion in exports to China. Among the EU countries, Germany is particularly affected, and among the sectors, especially aircraft and vehicle manufacturing.

Of course it would also cost the EU in exports to the US.

An thorough analysis of the Cui Bono of Corona Virus would be interesting.

My list up to now
- Chinese Hedge Funds
- Black Rock
- Europeans trying to prevent fixed trade between US and China


Posted by: somebody | Sep 10 2020 19:57 utc | 36

Posted by: recon | Sep 10 2020 18:32 utc | 22
Posted by: Parisian Guy | Sep 10 2020 19:42 utc | 33

The War Party's problems with Russia go to the McKinder "world island" hypothesis, plus the fact we do very little business with Russia, and most of what we do do is embarassing, i.e. fly us up to the ISS, sell us rocket engines. And Russia is the one real peer adversary we've had for a long time. So they are familiar and safe as long as we yap away don't do anything.

China is new in the peer adversary business, and wasn't supposed to be allowed to actually compete with us at all, like a big Japan, that is what they expected from China. And our new umbrage with China is directly related to that, they are getting uppity, see? So it's different and more dangerous.


Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 10 2020 19:59 utc | 37

Maybe you should reassess what's a neocon in year 2020.

Some of them are now pure China hawks, and don't care so much about Israel anymore.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Sep 10 2020 19:42 utc | 33

Are you kidding me? All Neocons are Zionist first! Zionist interests are always at the top of any Neocon strategy.

Posted by: Circe | Sep 10 2020 20:23 utc | 38

A note for newbie barfly Triden. Since you confess your disdain for video and bias for the written word, here's something of importance to our overall discussion here at the bar since it deals with the current dysfunctional political-economy imposed upon most of humanity. Hopefully you'll find the subject matter to your liking. You might also find this by the same author of interest.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 10 2020 20:37 utc | 39

nwoods - They do believe (they being the US/UK/NATO, including Germany) that we the great unwashed will believe whatever duplicitous crap the OPCW spouts on behalf the US et al. And in part that is because the vast majority of the population, those tuned into one form of MSM or another, were left UNINFORMED about the whole Douma-White Helmets-OPCW frame job against Syria. Well, I'm going by NPR and the BBC World Service Radio as broadcast here in the USA.

So the western media remained schtum about everything surrounding what the OPCW collusion with NATO (what else was it, after all?), the general public remained/s ignorant of the truth surrounding that duplicitous report - and the true whistleblowing by at least two of the onsite OPCW engineers involved in investigating the Douma "chlorine bombs".

And that public likely wouldn't have given a f*** anyway, not much of one, even had the grotesque misrepresentation forced by the OPCW bum polishers on the engineers or their real report/findings been revealed for the lies they are. The public don't care about the millions we have killed, have forced into wandering refugee existence, the drone murders, the dreadful pollution caused by the depleted uranium casings on our exploded missiles (and bullets?), the despoiled countryside after we have bombed their lives, homes, fields to smithereens...thousands of miles away; no real existential danger here from their military (should they be more than tatters)...

So the lies that the OPCW will spew, under the so-called independence of a UN body or the like, regarding Navalny's blood samples...will be believed if they are attended to at all beyond the chuntering ruling elites in DC.

Posted by: Anne | Sep 10 2020 20:42 utc | 40

Take 20 minutes now and listen to a speech from JFK.
One of the best speeches I’v ever here’d.
The subject matter is so relevant to our time now, on so many levels.


!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdMbmdFOvTs

This is what a real president sounds like. In case we have forgotten.
Parisian Guy particularly.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 10 2020 20:44 utc | 41

@Posted by: Parisian Guy | Sep 10 2020 19:30 utc | 31


Mattis and Coats were discussing about removing Trump by means of legal ways.
There is a law which permits a supermajority of the President's staff to dismiss him if they think he's no more able to do his job.

That is very interesting, Parisian Guy.

I know you were being succinct, but still, we need to call in a lawyer, as there must be more to it than you present.
For example, what does, "no more able to do his job" mean, would that be whatever the supermajority says it does?

Someone that bucks the advice of the "interagency" (as Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman defined the Deep State) cannot be all there.
Don't you agree? I'll bet Mattis and Coats agree.

If Mattis and Coats did not have supermajority they could maneuver to get that by the right hires. That is, hire people
that will follow Mattis over Trump. Seems like too easy a way to conduct a legal coup - shape the hires to get a supermajority and
then boot the President. Must be some hurdles missing...ask the lawyers.

That ZH picture of the military men, Mattis and Coats, called to mind a quote from JFK.


“The first thing I’m going to tell my successor,” Kennedy told guests at the White House,
“is to watch the generals,
and to avoid feeling that just because they were military men,
their opinions on military matters were worth a damn.”

Posted by: librul | Sep 10 2020 20:47 utc | 42

An hour and 47 minutes interview, Lukashenko with a team of Russian MSM led by an overly assertive Simonian and other mainstream journalists. Interesting Lukashenko as a character, at times reminded me of the latin american literature strong man, at times a soldier, factory worker, sly farmer proud of his clean and orderly farm, a simple guy but not someone easy to fool. It was obvious his unstable position facing the RT chief, it almost got to be irrespectful due to the camaraderie even though Lukashenko reacted immediately, over a quarter century as president and longer time as a politician, he knows probably too much about all the soviet and post soviet space. Lots of references to historical and present players. He is not going anywhere, he made it known to whoever wants to listen.

Posted by: Paco | Sep 10 2020 20:58 utc | 43

@Posted by: snake | Sep 10 2020 19:07 utc | 28

You referenced, "controlled access to drinking water".
I'll bite, what made you bring up that topic?

Remote access to residential and commercial water metering is becoming ubiquitous. Who (what agencies and what countries)
developed the software and firmware that controls these meters? Could a city be nailed to the wall by say, Iceland (wink)
if Iceland got angry with a policy decision and decided to shut off the water to that city?

Posted by: librul | Sep 10 2020 21:03 utc | 44

To clarify my above reference to Parisian Guy.
The link will be of interest to him. No slight intended.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 10 2020 21:03 utc | 45

@6 nwwoods, thanks for posting that link!

From that article I came across a YouTube recording of the webinar from two weeks ago of Venezuela's foreign minister discussing Canada's foreign interference in his country.

"Canada's Interference in Venezuela"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utHG5IVrwDQ&t=12s

It's an hour and a half long, and I haven't watched it yet, but will check it out tonight. Apparently it also includes a few words from Roger Waters (of Pink Floyd, of course).

Of course there was no mention of this event by Canadian mainstream news media (but lots on Belarus and Navalny,) and our so-called opposition parties have been on side or completely AWOL regarding the Freeland-Trudeau regime's regime change foreign policy.

Posted by: Canadian Cents | Sep 10 2020 21:07 utc | 46

Trump Nominated for 2021 Noble Peace Prize by Norwegian Lawmaker In Wake of Israel-UAE Deal

This gave me a good chuckle.

Posted by: Ian2 | Sep 10 2020 21:07 utc | 47

Not sure if this has been mentioned before but the Iranians have despatched another convoy of petrol and other useful chemicals to Venezuela. At least 3 possibly 4 are the tankers they sent on their previous successful trip. These are large Iranian flagged ships which may have Marines or similar with defensive systems (anti Somali pirate of course) on board.

This is very different from the subcontracted group of much smaller, non Iranian flagged, tankers that the US seized.

Interesting timing given the US election. No slouches the Iranian strategists!

Posted by: JohninMK | Sep 10 2020 21:12 utc | 48

vk, karlof1

A refreshing take on Socialism (and the infamous "C" word)

Capitalism isn't working

Posted by: donten | Sep 10 2020 21:16 utc | 49

Some of them are now pure China hawks, and don't care so much about Israel anymore.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Sep 10 2020 19:42 utc | 33

It's tempting to see this as the explanation because it's the only one that makes sense but I can think of prominent examples where this just doesn't pan out. Like the staunchest pro-Israel Congressman was Rep. Eliot Engel. He was vocal in his anti-China rhetoric and using the issue of Hong Kong to destabilize China.

Posted by: recon | Sep 10 2020 21:39 utc | 50


People believe God is good. But then how do we explain bad things happen? To explain bad things, the idea of the devil was born. Take this a step further, and one ends up burning witches.

Others believe everybody is equal. But then how do we explain inequalities? To explain inequalities, the idea of racism and discrimination was born. We'll see how things play out this time.

Posted by: passerby | Sep 10 2020 21:47 utc | 51

, what does, "no more able to do his job" mean, would that be whatever the supermajority says it does?
@librul 42

First, I'm only speaking from my memory of what I read sometimes ago. Furthermore, being French, I'm definitely not an expert in US law.

From what I remember, yes, it was left to the personal opinion of theses peoples. That is why such action could be easily contested. Also, that law has never been used, thus there is no preceding point for reference.

My understanding was that those were the causes for Mattis not to enter such an uncertain legal battle.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Sep 10 2020 21:56 utc | 52

donten @48--

Thanks for that FYI! One observation from my very brief perusal. Varoufakis says he "addresses" a multitude of issues including the following, "democratic checks and balances on corporations and elected bodies", which while nice sounding in Madisonian Theory have yet to show they can work in practice, IMO, primarily because the citizenry doesn't engage in its duties--or worse--doesn't even know it has duties to perform within its political-economy. One of the many reasons China's political-economy is more efficient than any in the West is the participation by its citizenry in that system--that it's their duty to do so. When everyone's engaged in the business of making everyone better off, there's little room or time for political divisions to arise since all work in the interests of all. Yes, multiple divisions of labor still exist--but--they are all united in the one overarching purpose just described. As Jack Ma and others have demonstrated, within China's system there's still room for entrepreneurs since their efforts still go toward the betterment of all, and the private rewards garnered by Ma et al are seen as acceptable by Chinese society. In contrast, attempts to gain Zero-sum advantages are condemned because they're exploitive. And those few wanting to try such exploits are free to leave. The biggest problem the Outlaw US Empire faces in its confrontation with China is the Chinese People have already voted with their feet--1.4 Billion opt to live and participate in China's system.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 10 2020 21:58 utc | 53

The target for pretending Navalny was poisoned seems like it could easily be to rope in Trump and maintain (better?) control of him after any reelection rather than Merkel and NS2 which might be secondary and almost a diversion (or bait for Trump).

Maybe.

There are other easily available news floating around more directly related to "Schrödinger's poison", some of it quite funny (France anyone?).

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 10 2020 22:19 utc | 54

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 10 2020 19:59 utc | 37 And our new umbrage with China is directly related to that, they are getting uppity, see? So it's different and more dangerous.

It's the "Yellow Peril" of the late-19th-early 20th Century. I was just re-watching one of Chris Lee's Fu Manchu movies, based on Sax Rohmer's famous villain which originated from the concept. To quote Wikipedia's entry:


The Yellow Peril was a common subject for colonial adventure fiction, of which Dr. Fu Manchu is the representative villain, created in the likeness of the villain in the novel The Yellow Danger; Or, what Might Happen in the Division of the Chinese Empire Should Estrange all European Countries (1898), by M. P. Shiel.[106] The Chinese gangster Fu Manchu is mad scientist intent upon conquering the world, but is continually foiled by the British policemen Sir Denis Nayland Smith and Dr. Petrie, in thirteen novels (1913–59), by Sax Rohmer.

Fu Manchu heads the Si-Fan, an international criminal organization and a pan-Asian gang of murderers recruited from the "darkest places of the East".[107] The plots of the novels feature the recurring scene of Fu Manchu despatching assassins (usually Chinese or Indian) to kill Nayland Smith and Dr. Petrie. In the course of adventure, Nayland-Smith and Petrie are surrounded by murderous colored men, Rohmer's Yellow Peril metaphor for Western trespass against the East.[107] In the context of the Fu Manchu series, and Shiel's influence, reviewer Jack Adrian described Sax Rohmer as a

shameless inflater of a peril that was no peril at all . . . into an absurd global conspiracy. He had not even the excuse . . . of his predecessor in this shabby lie, M.P. Shiel, who was a vigorous racist, sometimes exhibiting a hatred and horror of Jews and Far Eastern races. Rohmer's own racism was careless and casual, a mere symptom of the times

The books were a lot better than the movies. The first movie was back in 1937 and starred Boris Karloff as Fu Manchu. The first 2 Christopher Lee versions in 1965 and 1966 weren't too bad, but the rest in 1967, 1968 and 1969 were atrocious. I read a lot of the books back in the day - have 3 of them plus a number of other Sax Rohmer books on the hard drive.

The difference now is that China is becoming demonstrably better at being a nation-state than the US is. That adds economic and military concerns to ordinary racism.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Sep 10 2020 22:41 utc | 55

Why San Francisco had an apocalyptic orange sky.

I got up in the afternoon yesterday and noticed this phenomena. It actually seemed as if the sky was darker, as if it was due to a partial eclipse of the sun. Definitely weird. I don't smell any smoke in my building, which the article explains is because it's not down here at ground level.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Sep 10 2020 23:04 utc | 56

Are you kidding me? [. . . .]
Posted by: Circe | Sep 10 2020 20:23 utc | 3

I swear I don't.
It wouldn't be possible since I never spoke to you, and I never thought about your feeling.

This man was a neocon :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_D._Kaplan

Now he only thinks about the China threat.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Sep 10 2020 23:10 utc | 57

France24 reports heavy rain and floods along parts of the (Blue) Nile (Wikipedia link).

The Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam (GERD or Hidasse dam) is close to the Ethiopian border with Sudan. It isn't complete yet but on their homepage they have some pictures (including the ones that change) with dates where on the 18th of August it looks as full as it can be (for now) with overflow running through the (still temporary) central ungated spillway right up on top.

The issue of filling the dam should be solved for the immediate future (not that it helps those hurt by flooding) and also to a level where perhaps filling the rest isn't the same kind of immediate problem? Anyone please tell me if I'm wrong and mistaken about that, it's not something I know anything about :)

The France24 news also talks about places far away from the Nile on the other side of the continent.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 10 2020 23:28 utc | 58

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 10 2020 21:03 utc | 44

Thanks. I had no time for watching it for more than five minutes. He looks like kind of a political hero. Well, I believe nobody is 100% good, neither could be 100% bad. And no one does monopolize power. I mean, heroes don't exist.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Sep 10 2020 23:28 utc | 59

vk@5
Forgive me if I am missing a joke but this
"... if left unchecked, the peasant class (agribusiness) will starve the proletariat to death." is utter rubbish.
Neither Lenin nor even Stalin confused the peasant class with that of those who dispossess them, the capitalists. Had they done so they would have been contradicting the foundation of Marxism.

Posted by: bevin | Sep 10 2020 23:29 utc | 60

So is Egypt a Hidasse half full or a Hidasse half empty kind of country? :P

Sorry I couldn't resist, yes I can hear the boos XD

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 10 2020 23:32 utc | 61

59 bevin

sounds like you are a maoist.

Kulak

vk - problem is the "peasant class" will stop feeding you if you don't treat them well.

Posted by: somebody | Sep 10 2020 23:40 utc | 62

Mike Lofgren asks: "Is Trump a Murderer?". He answers: "The Woodward tapes provide the evidence: the president committed political genocide." [My Emphasis]

Barflies know I've advocated this conclusion for months, but few have allied with me. Now we have even more evidence pointing to malice (Malice, a legal term describing the intent to harm.) by Trump, the result being "Political Genocide." Lofgren continues:

"Perhaps the most distasteful thing Americans must face is not Trump and the relatively small number of conspirators in his administration who carried out his action. It is the millions of citizens who think it’s all just marvelous, even something that reinforces their faith in Donald Trump. It got surprisingly little attention, but an August poll found that a solid majority of Republicans found the number of COVID-19 deaths 'acceptable [Link at original].' That was when the toll stood at 170,000. It’s now closing in on 200,000. What would be unacceptable? A million? Ten million?"

Yes, Obama most certainly is a murderer, as are both Clintons, GW Bush--indeed, every POTUS since FDR, but almost none prior, which ought to be an indicator of when Bastian's system, as noted @15 above, became operational. Biden is complicit with Obama.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 10 2020 23:41 utc | 63

@47

"Not sure if this has been mentioned before but the Iranians have despatched another convoy of petrol and other useful chemicals to Venezuela. At least 3 possibly 4 are the tankers they sent on their previous successful trip. These are large Iranian flagged ships which may have Marines or similar with defensive systems (anti Somali pirate of course) on board."

I would rather see Iran send those supplies to Syria which may be about to have another fuel shortage.

Posted by: Schmoe | Sep 10 2020 23:48 utc | 64

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Sep 10 2020 23:10 utc | 56

US are chained to China.

China owns treasury bonds worth some trillion dollars.

It basically means the US have lost control of their currency. China can inflate or deflate the renminbi versus the Dollar the way they wish. Partnership with Iran and Russia means China does not have to pay for energy in Dollar.

It will be the Chinese economy kickstarting the World's Economy after Covid-19 not US economy, and China can choose Europe or the US.

The US being able to force tariffs on China has become increasingly unlikely.

Posted by: somebody | Sep 11 2020 0:02 utc | 65

somebody @64--

"The US being able to force tariffs on China has become increasingly unlikely."

Actually, the Outlaw US Empire will continue to lay tariffs on China's exports but they won't matter one iota to China and continue to harm the Empire. The stark truth is China doesn't need the Outlaw US Empire's market for its continuing development, nor does Russia. That's the #1 fact the Outlaw US Empire's in total denial of as it slowly but surly drowns into irrelevance.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 11 2020 0:29 utc | 66

@56 Parisian Guy

That guy is a Jewish Zionist who served in the Israeli Military. He couldn't be more Israel first Neocon tool if he tried.

Zionists are looking to neutralize China because it rivals the U.S. in size, economy and military strength, although the U.S. is still on top, and China cannot be trusted to serve the Empire.

Yes, it's a double-edged sword trying to neutralize China which in turn drives it into the arms of Iran for oil and gas, but Zionists are control freaks who cannot live in a world where they must share power with a powerful state they don't trust. So they must take on China at the same time as Iran or they can't sleep at night.

*******************
So to all you Trump bootlickers claiming Woodward should have revealed Trump was downplaying the virus after he taped him on March 19th; Trump held a big rally in Michigan today. So people there were already informed Trump was putting political interest over their health and guess what? They were all crowded together and most of them wore NO masks!

Trump doesn't care and neither do his supporters.

If most of them end up dead from Covid the collective public IQ of the rest of the mass will rise significantly.

I know-I know; it's counter-productive to call Trumpers dumb. But, can I help it if they keep on proving me right?

Posted by: Circe | Sep 11 2020 0:36 utc | 67

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Sep 10 2020 22:41 utc | 54

Re Fu Manchu etc.: yep that's the stuff. The US history of anti-Asian racism in general and anti-Chinese in particular is very long and sordid too. With someone like Trump, I'd expect him to be somewhat of that persuasion, I remember it well. Not that way in California any more, but when I was young it was very present still. It made me think of Blackhawk Comics, which I was an avid reader of once, but they are strange to think about now. Expensive on EBay.

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 11 2020 0:55 utc | 68

dirt under the carpet

I learned extradition is dependent on "dual Criminality" I wonder if one of you lawyer types would expand on the meaning of DC.

Posted by: snake | Sep 11 2020 0:58 utc | 69

Bemildred @67--

A movie sorta about WW2 but more about indoctrinating the public to Outlaw US Empire acts of terrorism was The Dirty Dozen, which was filmed when the US Terrorist Op Operation Phoenix was just getting started in Vietnam. It was a staple of AMC and late night movie channels for decades, although it now seems to have disappeared. According to its Wiki page, the book and subsequent movie were based on an actual US Army unit and its actions.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 11 2020 1:16 utc | 70

@ Posted by: bevin | Sep 10 2020 23:29 utc | 59; @ Posted by: somebody | Sep 10 2020 23:40 utc | 61

There's an interesting hypothesis about the differences of peasant behavior in the Russian and Chinese revolutions, pointed out by Brazilian geographer Elias K. Jabbour ("China Hoje").

According to him, the Chinese peasant class was completely different from the European peasant class. China had a failed capitalist revolution circa the 16th Century, which resulted in a somewhat distorted feudal system where manufacture production was internalized by the peasant class until the gates of the Republican Revolution of 1911. The same didn't happen in the Russian Empire, which consolidated itself as the last true feudal Empire in Europe, geopolitically in the position of the last gatekeeper of "the old ways" (i.e. absolutist monarchy) against the Napoleonic threat and beyond.

The Russian peasantry, therefore, was preserved as an extremely reactionary, pro-feudalism class, with a little bit of petite-bourgeois rancor after the failed capitalist reforms of 1863.

China, on the other hand, had a full "entrepreneur" peasantry, which already thought of the world both in agrarian and manufacturing terms. It already had an "urban" mind. It was, according to Jabbour, in fact a true proletarian-peasant class. I use the term "true" here because, if you read Lenin's first book of his "Complete Works" (available for free on the internet), he begins, right out of the bat, with an analysis of land productivity in Russia of the late 19th Century. He demonstrates that the alleged feudal agriculture in Russia at the time already was essentially capitalist, as most peasants weren't really peasants: they received such a small and useless piece of land from the czar that they had to sell their labor force to the richer peasants (kulaks) to complement their "income".

Indeed, the Bolsheviks received ample peasant support in the October Revolution, and many supported the creation of the giant collective farms. If it wasn't for them, dekulakization wouldn't have been possible.

China, on the other hand, didn't have to go through a significant dekulakization process precisely because their peasant class already had a proletarian mind - or, at least, a proto-proletarian mindset which could become a proletarian one with adequate enlightenment/education. After the failure of collectivization of agriculture (Cultural Revolution), the peasantry, more or less peacefully (compared to Russia/USSR), reformed back and accepted the smooth transition to urbanization - a process that's still ongoing today. The reason for this is simple: many manufacture in China is produced in the rural areas, by the peasants; a Chinese peasant, albeit poorer (as urban areas have a greater organic composition of capital, therefore absorb more value), has access to all the perks of "civilization" (see, for example, Liziqi's YouTube channel, among others).

Brazil is basically the USA that never had the North. If you want to see what the USA would be if the Confederacy had won the War of Secession, just look to Brazil.

Posted by: vk | Sep 11 2020 1:22 utc | 71

About the counterintuitivity of intelligence quotients…

"For modern IQ tests, the median raw score of the norming sample is defined as IQ 100"

Change the population and you'll have to recalculate the sample, as is done.

Remove those scoring below 100 and the definition of IQ 100 will shift upwards, not downwards.

The percentage of above and under the new 100 will remain exactly the same but some people who previously scored above 100 will now instead score below 100.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 11 2020 1:24 utc | 72

As Patrick Armstrong put it, " Now they come right out and tell us they think we’re stupider than pond scum:". You have to give them credit. They try to cover all the bases but end up creating a tangled web of lies. The Novichok is the new, improved time release extra strength nerve agent. Sounds like the Bundeswehr should go into marketing. Oh wait... The nefarious FSB agent must have had his/her cloaking device on as no one could see the agent dripping the poison into the tea. The Bundeswehr believe the operation wasn't the result of some Oligarch wishing to silence Navalny as it was too complex, new, lethal and would require a special laboratory to prepare the weapon. If this version of the "truth squared" can't be pounded into that round hole, please ignore while we create a new reality. Please be patient.

"the German government no longer has any doubt internally as to who is behind the attack: a Russian secret service commissioned by the Kremlin. Navalny, ....was poisoned with a novel advancement of the Novichok chemical weapon – a variant that the world did not know until this attack, but which is said to be more vicious and deadly than all known offshoots of the Novichok family. The scientists found similar residues on Navalny's hands and on the neck of a water bottle from which he had been drinking."

"This new Nowitschok variant is supposed to be slower than the previously known ones. The Germans suspect that one of the agents of the Russian domestic intelligence service FSB, who shadowed Navalny, or a specially smuggled intelligence agent, dripped the poison into the tea or prepared the cup surface with it. Navalny should have died aboard the plane. The fact that he is still alive, it is said in Berlin,is only due to a chain of happy circumstances, such as the rapid reaction of the pilot who made an emergency landing the aircraft, and the doctors in Omsk, who immediately injected Navalny with the antidote atropine.

"An operation with such a lethal and complex poison can only be carried out by an intelligence service, the German experts believe. The very existence of the new Novichok variant precludes a Russian oligarch from slammed on his own. The two-component poison requires a special laboratory and is not to be controlled by ordinary criminals. German services also consider it unthinkable that a foreign intelligence service operated on Russian soil – under the eyes of the FSB, which closely monitored Navalny. All this leaves only one plausible conclusion: it was the Kremlin that tasked with eliminating an unwelcome critic. "He should be silenced," Merkel had put it."

https://patrickarmstrong.ca/

https://www.zeit.de/2020/38/deutsch-russische-beziehung-alexej-nawalny-nord-stream-2

Posted by: Tom | Sep 11 2020 2:08 utc | 73

VK @ 70:

Several thousand Confederate soldiers and officers left the US after the end of the Civil War and settled in southeast Brazil (mainly Sao Paulo state). One such Confederate, W S Wise, was the brother of the grandfather of former First Lady Rosalynn Carter.

Tampa Bay Times, Way down south: Brazilian Dixieland (October 2005)

Over time, descendants of the original Confederates who stayed on - about 3,000 eventually returned to the US - assimilated into the Brazilian population so their numbers are now difficult to determine.

Posted by: Jen | Sep 11 2020 2:29 utc | 74

Read on Twitter that Boris Johnson was reneging on his agreement with the EU.

But according to Tom Luongo:

"
The Withdrawal Act’s validity and applicability to the future relationship between the EU and the U.K. is predicated on two things.

1) Both sides negotiating a Free Trade Agreement in good faith.
2) A free trade agreement is actually signed by the two parties.

If either of these things do not come to pass Section 38 of the Withdrawal Act upgrades the power of the U.K. government since it asserts the sovereignty of the U.K. parliament as a law-making body for the whole of the United Kingdom.

This includes Northern Ireland.
"

Anyone here care to refute his argument?

Posted by: groucho | Sep 11 2020 2:43 utc | 75

@ Jen 73 & vk 70)
Several thousand Confederate soldiers and officers left the US after the end of the Civil War and settled in southeast Brazil (mainly Sao Paulo state). . .If you want to see what the USA would be if the Confederacy had won the War of Secession, just look to Brazil.

I'm a fan of Bluegrass music. It's been my experience that Southerners who migrate bring what is now considered Bluegrass music with them. (True Bluegrass originated in the nineteen forties by Bill Monroe.) This is the case in Washington state where many southerners migrated early in the last century for timbering. There is a large annual bluegrass festival (normally) in Darrington WA.. . .. So...could there be bluegrass in São Paulo? I googled it and .... São Paulo Bluegrass Music Association came up. . . "Thank you to everyone who made Winter Bluegrass Jam a success!". ..Thanks for that Jen &vk.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 11 2020 3:02 utc | 76

Prof K #20

WSWS points out the obvious: the Woodward tapes reveal Trump's crime against the country (lying about the looming pandemic and about China's forthrightness) but also the crime of the media and Democrats who knew the crisis was coming and said nothing! The tapes are just as much an indictment of the US media for sitting on these revelations! Every lie of American liberalism is being exposed, in this case that the existence of a privately owned media guarantees public security.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/09/10/pers-s10.html

Yes that was a good report. These are truly revealing times.

I just spotted a great line - from a report at Common Dreams by Norman Solomon The Presidential Election: 'A 200-Pound Sack of Concrete' vs. 'The Orange Menace'.

That sums it up nicely :))

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 11 2020 3:35 utc | 77

karlof1 #15

Along with the bashing is the siccing of the Empire's Australian and Indian vassals to promote tensions with China as this article recaps regarding Aussie efforts. Apparently, key Aussie interests don't like what's happening:

"In an opinion article titled 'Memo to generals: China is our inescapable economic destiny' this week, the Sydney Morning Herald has raised a long overdue question: people who care about Australia's economic future are wondering what game the country's defense and foreign affairs experts think they're playing."

The bunya nut republic was astounded when China didn't even show up at the grain sales a few weeks ago. Nearly 40% export income to Oz is on the block as the idiot pentescotal Prime Monster shirtfronts President Xi. No rainbow dreaming in this fair land - more like Haiti dreaming these days.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 11 2020 3:43 utc | 78

Posted by: Circe | Sep 11 2020 0:36 utc | 66

He served in Tsahal 40 years ago. Therefore, according to you, he's a Zionist for life. You forgot to explain it's engraved in its chromosomes, isn'it ?

I repeat : he don't care about Iran, but only China. You can Google and check his latest published work.
This fact - he was in Tsahal decades ago - does not demonstrate your point, but mine.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Sep 11 2020 3:45 utc | 79

I should add to my #76 regarding the sack of concrete etc...

Solomons story is a POS so don't bother reading.

Hightower's new video underscores that progressives have the opportunity to get much better results fighting President Biden than fighting President Trump. Moving "a 200-pound sack of concrete" is bound to be a heavy lift, but the possibilities would be real. The votes in swing states will determine whether we get the chance.

Solomon weasel words his way to saying voters can change Biden by voting for him cause that way he will become progressive. See its that easy no need for another Bernie or any of that... what a fraud.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 11 2020 3:54 utc | 80

a blow to the US. . .peace in the Himalayas--
from The Hindu
LAC standoff | India, China agree on 5-point plan for resolving border tension

After a two-and-a-half-hour-long meeting that went into the night in Moscow, External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar and Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said they had agreed on a five-point course of action to de-escalate the four-month-long standoff between troops at the Line of Actual Control (LAC).
“The two Foreign Ministers agreed that the current situation in the border areas is not in the interests of either side. They agreed, therefore, that the border troops of both sides should continue their dialogue, quickly disengage, maintain proper distance and ease tensions,” said a joint press statement issued after the first face-to-face meeting between the two ministers since the standoff.. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 11 2020 4:34 utc | 81

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 10 2020 19:59 utc | 37

I don't think the umbrage with China is actually as new as you believe.

When you think like MacKinder, you probably look not only to geography, but also long-term history and demography.

Chinese civilization has been first for most of the centuries since the beginning of History.
There are four times more inhabitants in China than in USA, and they have a better IQ.

The rise of China was already a threat for the US empire two decades ago.

That's why the Chinese embassy in Belgrad was bomb flattened in 1999 when it was collecting some bits of the downed F-117.

That's also why Afghanistan was invaded in 2001 ; it was the link from China to Iran and the Gulf. As a terrestrial link, it could not be blockaded by the Navy. And think about the American meddling with the Ouighours in XinJiang. It started long time ago.

That's also why some kind of colored revolution was tried in Myanmar - For China, it was a backdoor going to the ocean.

Yes, oil maritime blockade was already a matter, two decades ago.That's why in the following years China developed solar panels, windmills and nuclear plants, without leaving coal.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Sep 11 2020 4:43 utc | 82

China is a US enemy because it doesn't follow 'the rules of the road' established by the US, where world-wide corporate interests rule strategy. China operates differently with major corporations owned by the government. This elevates long-term advantages for the government to a level impossible for the US where short-time profits rule. The US now is attempting to destroy those China corporations, starting with Huawei (electronics) and CCCC (construction). . .It probably won't work.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 11 2020 5:07 utc | 83

I suspect many barflies have read that Bob Woodward has come out with a book about semi-recent interviews with Trump and in there is Trump admitting he lied to the American public about the seriousness of the Covid virus

I have gone back 15 hours on the Reuters story line and there is nary a mention of this story there.

If anything is going to bring Trump down it will be his response to the Covid virus

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 11 2020 5:11 utc | 84

Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Sep 10 2020 13:41 utc | 1 -- "We are such evil hypocrites..... it's all about power, bullying, and fear of socialist govts...."

So now we see that the world hates the US leadership for its unspeakable evil, for its continual bullying, for its unending grasping after power. Certainly not for your much-vaunted western value called "freedom"..... unless its your self-serving "freedom" to eat other peoples' lunches.

Yes, make america grate again.... Your leaders certainly make us grit our teeth each time they make another smug proclamation.

Oh, and Guileless Guido cannot stop trucking on now. If he should ever tire of his will to be an useful idiot of Empire, he will be skripalchok'd. Or navalchok'd. Same difference.

Posted by: kiwiklown | Sep 11 2020 5:12 utc | 85

Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 11 2020 3:02 utc | 75

True Bluegrass originated in the nineteen forties by Bill Monroe.

Technically true, but it didn't really sound like bluegrass until he hired Earl Scruggs. Kinda like bebop before Charlie Parker.

Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 11 2020 5:13 utc | 86

@ f.e. 85
Wrong -- Bill Monroe's high lonesome sound IS bluegrass (to everyone but you).

Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 11 2020 5:22 utc | 87

Posted by: Noirette | Sep 10 2020 15:32 utc | 8-- "Trump showed up the falsity and fragility of the Duopoly...."

YES. We do not have to be pro-trump when we say we are against the slimey swamp where pelosi gets her hair blown, billy goat clinton gets other bodily parts blown, where bidet biden is hid'en, where kamala whateva is hid'en.

Whether accidentally or by 15-D chess, Trump has been a gas, like a huuuuge burp in the fetid dungeons of washington. More and more round the world are beginning to see the scam that the Amedikan "global leadership" has been, and that only be for the good of mankind.

Looking forward to trump's 2nd term.... and more swamp belchings....

Posted by: kiwiklown | Sep 11 2020 5:35 utc | 88

One the eve of the 19th anniversary of the dastardly 9/11 false flag crime, it's refreshing albeit saddening to read Pepe Escobar's current article in Asia Times, We are all hostages of 9/11. If we in the U.S. are not free to pursue justice, then the veneer of "freedom" only hides a deeper horror and despair.

Posted by: norecovery | Sep 11 2020 5:38 utc | 89

@83 psychohistorian - "If anything is going to bring Trump down it will be his response to the Covid virus"

And this is why the Democrats selected Biden as the opponent. Life would have been so much easier for them to lose this election, but Trump was so appallingly derelict in the face of the pandemic that the Democrats - as we reasoned months ago - suddenly were forced to perform herculean work simply to lose this election and remain in the #2 place that rewards them so optimally.

Biden does all the heavy lifting of losing the race for them, all in one simple move.

And why do the Democrats wish to remain in the #2 place? Because they continue to enrich themselves from insider trading and corporate sponsorship, without having to be responsible for the condition of the country, and without having to explain to the traditional Democrat base that they don't work for the traditional Democratic platform anymore. They're just corporate lackeys getting rich, and the last thing they want is to be seen as being in charge of the country. They have a great gig just as things are.

I take this as the baseline underlying whatever this election farce throws up as drama during the course it runs.

Posted by: Grieved | Sep 11 2020 5:38 utc | 90

Something's unreliable in this comment system. I properly posted two URLS from Asia Times, but only one showed up with the wrong title. Pepe Escobar's current article is "From 9/11 to the Great Reset" <https://asiatimes.com/2020/09/from-9-11-to-the-great-reset/>

Posted by: norecovery | Sep 11 2020 5:40 utc | 91

To. Don Bacon #80

a blow to the US. . .peace in the Himalayas--
from The Hindu LAC standoff | India, China agree on 5-point plan for resolving border tension

US can reign in PLA aggression in the Himalaya? Ok, Microsoft, Apple plus Biden and Bloomberg profited a lot from Xi-China, but not that much!

Posted by: Antonym | Sep 11 2020 5:53 utc | 92

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 10 2020 17:17 utc | 15 -- "It appears the frequency of China bashing done by TrumpCo is related to growing gap between in abilities as China forges ahead while the Empire continues to drown in its own excesses."

Stop Press: Evil Empire Drowns In Own Emissions.... errr, make that Effluents....

You are simply more polite than me, Karlof1..... :o)

And thanks for that Frederic Bastian reminder: not everything legal is just.

Posted by: kiwiklown | Sep 11 2020 5:53 utc | 93

Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 11 2020 5:07 utc | 82

Yes, and that's the reason why the current transition from the old empire to the new one can't be as smooth than the transition from the British empire to the American one. Part of the British economic power did not really fight. It just moved in USA.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Sep 11 2020 5:58 utc | 94

@ Grieved | Sep 11 2020 5:38 utc | 89 with the response to my comment, thanks

I agree with your status quo baseline read of the (s)election tea leaves

I keep waiting for the next moves on the finance front like China greatly increasing their selling of US Treasuries to force more fetid behavior by both sides before the (s)election.

There is, as can be seen by the rabid in this bar, substantial evidence that there are Derangement Syndrome victims on both sides and it is those that we keep trying to wake up to the top/bottom reality of the world beneath the smoke and mirrors.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 11 2020 6:00 utc | 95

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 11 2020 1:16 utc | 69

Another WWII movie that reflects on how US soldiers actually operate was the comedy-drama "Kelly's Heroes" starring Clint Eastwood, Telly Savalas, Donald Sutherland - and Don Rickles (my favorite character - a crooked supply sergeant operating in the black market; he has the best lines, of course, being Don Rickles.) It's about a group of soldiers who find out that there are hundreds of pounds of gold captured by the Germans stashed in a French bank behind enemy lines. They resolve to steal it. In the process, the general at HQ thinks they are a gung-ho unit who has successfully penetrated German lines and he intends to push through the opening for his own career.

Then there's "Play Dirty", a Michael Caine/Nigel Green effort about the war in North Africa where a British officer recruits local criminals to run behind-the-lines operations against Rommel's forces. That's where I quoted that line in a previous thread where Green's character says, "Was is a criminal enterprise. So I fight it with criminals." It's a hugely cynical war movie - especially the ending.

This is more realistic about how US soldiers behave than all the "super-patriot" crap you see in most US war movies. I was in Vietnam and there was tons of corruption and racism in the US military then - and probably now.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Sep 11 2020 6:06 utc | 96

On the eve of the Sept 11 attack on USA by Saudi wahabbi criminals, pause to consider this (from Sputnik):

"Arab tribal leaders in Deir ez-Zor Governorate issued an ultimatum to the US forces and their "proxies", the Kurdish-dominated Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), demanding that they pull out of the region within a month. They also condemned the US-led coalition for the murder of Syrian sheikhs in the region. Tribal representatives of Aleppo joined the chorus and vowed to support a Syrian popular resistance against the "occupants".

What date was the 1 month deadline given? August 11.

If the Sheiks implement their plan, USA will attack the Syrian Government, whether they have a hand in it or not, as this is the correct 'mafia' response.

Well, the US election is very close.

This may be 'high noon'.

Posted by: powerandpeople | Sep 11 2020 8:53 utc | 97

karlof1 #62

Yes Trump is commiting political genocide upon Americans whereas Biden's victims were mostly middle eastern. To date Biden is in the lead on this poll for sheer numbers. Trump is rapidly gaining and could well overtake the murder clan in the Demonazis.
That might require assistance from the illegal occupier of Palestinian lands though and the red flag remains aloft.

Regardless of Trumps capability, nothing in the Demonazi team is worth one vote.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 11 2020 9:10 utc | 98

Richard Steven Hack | Sep 11 2020 6:06 utc | 95

another film that achieved cult status even though it was not a commercial success is King of Hearts

it really leaves you shaking your head when seeing people in an insane asylum seeming much more sane than those who put them there. my favorite short film of all time was shown before the movie started.

re racism in the military, it is still there but not obvious. it is quite subtle and white folks don't even see it...but it is still there.


Posted by: dan of steele | Sep 11 2020 9:12 utc | 99

So apparently there is an existing, operating Eilat-Ashkelon oil pipeline, kept rather quiet until now, which may get considerably more significant as Gulf monarchy-Israel relations normalize.

Posted by: David G @ 23
Thank you for that link..
can anyone give the ownership history of the the Eilat-Ashkelon oil pipeline? Maybe until recently, the wrong persons may have owned it..?

Posted by: snake | Sep 11 2020 9:30 utc | 100

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