Now That we have an open thread I wanted to pick up on a comment I made yesterday in response to @Karloff on the Navalny thread.
“There is bipartisan US support to stop the pipeline and some very harsh anti-Germany rhetoric from Trump” (taken from a DW piece I linked to)
I wanted to ask people’s opinions as to why the US would want to kill NS II – it is much more than just money of course and the price could be the significant worsening of EU/ US relations.
(I know I should pay more attention to US politics but I really value my sanity …)

Posted by: AtaBrit | Sep 3 2020 13:29 utc | 4

Help me flesh out my naive understanding of the world:
1) Return on capital is the underlying rule
2) It’s all organized crime with senior partners and junior partners. Some of us work on the clean side of the house, but it’s all dirty.
3) Global senior capital controls all sovereigns
4) There is a constant turf war among capital owners and that’s all that really matters…ideologies, politics, religion, etc are illusions to manipulate the masses
5) Liberals and Conservatives are just good cop bad cop roles to manipulate the masses…they ultimately answer to the same senior capital
Obviously the illusions are wearing off and there’s capital partner battles taking place. Who are the participants (senior capital and junior capital partners and their fronts (sovereign, political, corporate, etc))?

Posted by: davenitup | Sep 3 2020 13:36 utc | 6

@7 davenitup
Great observation and question! One more bit. If you attempt to report on said truths, you are sent to prison to rot in a cell, like Julian Assange. His show trial starts Monday. See Consortium News.

Posted by: Michael | Sep 3 2020 13:48 utc | 8

“Modern Germany is not a monolith, that’s for sure.”
Absolutely. I am familiar with the objections in Europe to NS II, but they have all but been silenced except a couple of legal issues.
Its the US psyche behind trying to destroy the relationship that I don’t get – it will surely make more imminent the Euro Asian Alliance and could hurt both the US and EU.

Posted by: AtaBrit | Sep 3 2020 13:53 utc | 10

@Jackrabbit | 8
Cheers. Will have a look to see how plausible the use of US LNG is in the long term – it would definitely require considerable subsidising and would it not kill off EU plans for taking more responsibility for its own defense?
@vk | 10
Thanks. EU is not USSR and the world is not that of the cold war. But it would make sense if that is their thinking.

Posted by: AtaBrit | Sep 3 2020 14:07 utc | 12

India launched a pre-planned attack on China in the border standoff area on Saturday night to take a position within China’s perception of the Line of Actual Control. Official Indian briefing claims no casualties or even contact but one Indian military analyst says there were combat casualties on both sides. India deployed its Special Frontier Force, a special operations unit manned by Tibetans under the administration of Research & Analysis Wing, the Indian external spy agency.
Indian government and media have constructed a timeline claiming India reacted to a provocative move by China on Saturday night and quickly conducted the operation to seize the position. However, Manoj Joshi points out that obviously given the nature of the unit used it was a pre-planned operation. The Chinese movement of troops at midnight that has been labeled as the provocative pretext was actually the reaction to India’s operation. https://www.orfonline.org/research/new-india-china-clash-what-use-of-special-frontier-force-reveals-72622/
According to Ajai Shukla the operation killed a Tibetan company commander and resulted in Chinese casualties. https://ajaishukla.blogspot.com/
The SFF is organized for sabotage and insurgency in Tibet. India is sending a message threatening China with insurgency. An insurgency in Tibet taking off is far fetched. What is more readily apparent is India’s exposure now to retaliation. The insurgencies of Northeast India have dropped by 90% in intensity but are still active in Nagaland and Manipur. China now will likely support those insurgencies. Worse for India, the Northeast insurgents also have relations with Naxalites who are active in over 100 districts of India. Any arms transferred to NE rebels could end up in their hands too.
It’s a mystery why India does not announce it took military action in a straightforward manner. If it were Pakistan there would be no hesitation to announce a military action. But India has portrayed itself as the victim of Chinese aggression. It even banned 100+ Chinese apps earlier in the week and cited recent Chinese aggression as the reason. For India to start a conflict with China is a very bad idea but the self-deception is an additional bad idea. India should be clear it is an escalating a conflict and openly debate the sanity of this decision.

Posted by: pouring | Sep 3 2020 14:27 utc | 14

killwallstreet @3
Why can’t we have the choice of Nina Turner for President?
Oh yeah, capitalist elites wouldn’t like that.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 3 2020 14:39 utc | 16

@ daveinup # 7 who wrote
”
Help me flesh out my naive understanding of the world:
”
I think you did a fairly good job on describing the power structure of the West but it gets complicated in countries like Russia and then there is China sovereign government which is not yet, to my knowledge, owned by Western global senior capital.
Western global senior capital is doing two things that I see. They are setting up to cull the herd at the top while decimating the bottom and they are consolidating power over the countries they can as the example of public finance based society grows in global awareness.
I continue to posit that we are in a civilization war about the Western way of global private capital controlling all or not. People call the alternative to centuries of global private finance rule multi-polarity but it is just fog over the central issue of public/private finance in the social contract and form of governance.
How the social evolution plays out with all the debt by countries and personal debt mixed in with casino bets by derivatives is way over my pay grade. That said, I am glad to see humanity coming to a point of cultural inflection where there is the opportunity for our species growth beyond the dystopian mess it currently is in.
I am happy to be reading more that are starting to realize the structural effects of global private finance and the way things could be like in China if finance was a core sovereign utility.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 3 2020 14:44 utc | 18

@ Posted by: davenitup | Sep 3 2020 13:36 utc | 7; @ Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 3 2020 14:44 utc | 19
The illusion comes from the fact that the bourgeoisie is the first dominant class in human history whose power doesn’t emanate from monopoly of violence, but from complete ownership of nature (means of production). It’s method of domination, therefore, is through deprivation, not through extortion.
As a result, the bourgeoisie cannot do nothing on its own. Rather, it has to hire everything it needs. This applies to literally everything: violence itself (Armed Forces are working class, as they fight for a wage and they have a career), politics (wages, career) and ideology (middle class; academia; “experts”). From this comes the illusion of an egalitarian – and, indeed, even a “neutral” or natural – society (illusion of freedom).
All the dominant classes aimed divine status; the bourgeoisie is the first one to have achieved it de facto, as they fused themselves with nature, with natural resources (both human and earthly).

Posted by: vk | Sep 3 2020 14:54 utc | 20

James @ 106 on preveous post.
Very interesting observation you made, regarding denial of access to twitter accounts.
This subject warrants much discussion, I had noticed the same thing. Also the same on searches at blogs / political and news sites.
Others experiences would be interesting.
Topic —- present pre election internet censorship !

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 3 2020 15:00 utc | 22

Bill and Hillary Clinton had a interview with American Urban Radio and Bill joked that Trump will be “stacking sandbags” in the Whitehouse during the inauguration. Looks like the Colour Revolution in the US is on, I wonder what they will call it, the Purple Revolution

Posted by: Kadath | Sep 3 2020 15:28 utc | 24

Personality cult:
What’s the difference? Video shows college kids LOVING parts of Trump’s agenda, if told it’s Biden’s

Posted by: vk | Sep 3 2020 15:35 utc | 26

Posted by: Contra-Conspiraloon | Sep 3 2020 14:56 utc | 22
The Social Democrats/Green Party coalition under Schröder/Fischer didn’t support the Iraq War (“I am not convinced Mr.President”- J.Fischer). Yet, they supported the bombing of Ex-Yugoslavia/Serbia in order to “prevent” another Ausschwitz. Schröder later admitted in an interview with Die Zeit editor-in-chief Joffe that Germany commited war crimes against Serbia

Posted by: vato | Sep 3 2020 15:53 utc | 28

The lower ranks of the armed forces are not working class: If they go on strike, nobody goes broke. Moreover, they do not have the potential to actually do the work to keep economic life going because only a small specialized fraction actually know how. The officer corps as a whole is petty-bourgeois, shading to bourgeois at the highest levels, where retired generals and admirals become high executives, especially in arms industries. Even more, the officer corps is deliberately indoctrinated in backwards ideas, which rely upon the oldest kind of notions. For instance, officers are taught they are “gentlemen,” that is, of a higher class than common society. The hierarchy of ranks is a powerful incentive to conformist thinking, as being different is rarely conducive to promotion. It is an open question whether the US military is not Republican. (This does not necessarily mean Trumpist, because Trump has said he would fire generals who couldn’t get the job done, and actually fired his generals serving on staff. This kind of thing takes much of the luster from all the blank checks.)
Increasingly even the lower ranks of the volunteer army are being taught to conceive themselves as a separate, truly patriotic Christian caste. But this might be an artifact of Christian propaganda/wishful thinking?

Posted by: steven t johnson | Sep 3 2020 16:23 utc | 30

What does the CIA have on Merkel?
Or is it the presence of US occupation troops that dictates policy?

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Sep 3 2020 16:30 utc | 32

The Rising has an insider look at Amazon’s union-busting tactics and it is horrifying.
Bezos, along with Big Tech, is trying to outflank organized labor at every turn.
If our phones and apps are the principal method of how workers might organize in the 21st century, we can be sure that Bezos and social media are collaborating to snuff it out at the mildest stink of organizing.
Don’t use amazon, stay off social media, use cash, etc.
Posters here have made the argument that automation for amazon is only a few years away. Anyone who reflects on such a claim will find it wantin in that humans are far more efficient machines than robots which need massive investment and maintenance and is itself frought with the question will people rebel entirely against amazon for employing such tactics. The hate this practice generates will only increase. And if the fall of Sears in the states has taught us anything, it is this giant mercantilist corps come and go.
The fact that Bezos is doing his damndest to stop organizing is proof that he is worried about it. I don’t buy that he is just biding his time till automation. He is being proacted because he knows his bluff is wearing thin.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 3 2020 16:39 utc | 34

Args. on Trump vs. Biden etc. are leaving out an important topic.
— Things seem to have settled into a pure mud-slinging match, an attempt to create a cult, a tribal atmosphere, in which the winner is decided purely by ‘image’ moves and underground manipulations and fraud (both parties are pre-emptively accusing each other of both already..) —
The War on Terror. Started by G W Bush (PTB, Cheney, others..) post the treasonous 9/11 attacks, went full out, Afghanistan (had nothing to do with 9/11), then the WMD of Saddam, the threat of Iraq, its invasion.
Internally, the Patriot Act, the hunt for Jihadist Terrorists, Gitmo.
Obama promised to halt needless wars and close Gitmo. He managed neither and implemented a ‘surge’ in Afgh. just like Bush did to no avail (imho.) Obama switched policies a bit – from ww2 like invasion (bombing helpless children, holding territory, controlling energy routes…) to an emphasis on ‘targetting leaders’, Barack being the king of targetted drone attacks. But, see, Lybia, Syria, and in part Yemen, though one should not set aside the role of others (Lybia particularly: France, EU.) Plus “color”: Ukraine.. etc.
Trump promised to end the WOT. He seems to have adopted a mix of hard and soft (symbolic) attacks. Like Obama, killing ‘leaders’ like Al-Baghdadi (??), Soleimani, etc. but with more fanfare than Obama. Symbolic is typically the attack on a research facility in Syria with (near) zero deaths, 2018.
Hard is … what? Who exactly defeated ISIL (territory held in the past and now) in Syria, Iraq (Afgh, Nigeria..)? b used to have very good posts about Syria etc.
Note that there have been no consequent ‘Islamist’ terrorist attacks in the US since Trump.
Pre-DT. June 2016, Orlanda nightclub shooting, Omar Matteen.
Oct. 2017, Las Vegas Shooting (very deadly) may have been a terrorist attack that was covered up. The PTB, US Gvmt., Las Vegas authorities, MSM, and Trump pushed the ‘lone shooter’ scenario, Stephen Paddock, hard. Completely unbelievable and absurd as measured against what went down.

Posted by: Noirette | Sep 3 2020 16:58 utc | 36

Ta muchly for all of the input into the “green” party (Germany) info. Wasn’t aware – but unsurprised.
Anyone who wants to be a politico, especially at national level, and one for as many years as possible (nice screw – Brit speak for good income) is likely easily subverted, even if they began with reasonably decent intentions (always assuming).
And, of course, it may be that being “green” provided the leg up that wasn’t available otherwise. (Moreover, the so-called “Green New Deal” over here has shades, at least, of “everything, everything ecological has a market price…” so how truly environmentally honest and for every ecosystem is it? Hmmm…as true as the market will bear.)
Altogether sickening…

Posted by: AnneR | Sep 3 2020 17:02 utc | 38

SCRATH THAT!!
Sorry. Should use preview. The Forbes article of course says by the end of the 20s … ! ))) Sorry for the error.

Posted by: AtaBrit | Sep 3 2020 17:19 utc | 40

Economics chart time:
Have the countries experiencing the largest economic decline performed better in protecting the nation’s health, as we would expect if there was a trade-off?
The two countries which imposed a real lockdown – China and Vietnam – are the only in the chart that will grow in 2020.
—
Australia, the ‘lucky country’, has not escaped the COVID pandemic slump, as it did the Great Recession in 2008-9.
The worst part? The Chinese know:
Australia risks backsliding into a poor country in Asia Pacific
China has already stopped imports of Australian barley and wine. It is Australia’s biggest trading partner.
There’s still time for Australia to repent and publicly apologize to China. They should do it – you can blame it on your Prime Minister (by electing another, pro-China one) and claim he was insane if you want to avoid the humiliation.
—
India versus China versus Brazil in the COVID
Enlightening graph. That’s all.
—
Meanwhile the Chinese economy, first into the pandemic, continues to be first out in the economic recovery
—
Progeria of the “emerging economies”:
The peripheral so-called ’emerging or developing’ economies are really taking a hit in the pandemic

Posted by: vk | Sep 3 2020 17:23 utc | 42

Thinking of Angela Merkel’s possible response to the supposed poisoning of Navalny by agents of the Russian State: Would Merkel really block the completion of Nordstream 2 over an attempted assassination of a minor political figure in Russia? How would that be received by the German people, who want the cheaper fuel that Nordstream 2 will bring? Where does Germany’s own interest lie? Is it in being the U.S.’s poodle? Given the very real possibility that Trump will be out of office come next January, it makes no sense for Merkel to roll over on what is essentially a Russian domestic matter, which is why I wonder what dirt the Deep State has on her. Surely, most, if not all, of her official and personal communications have been monitored by U.S. and UK spooks, and she must be aware of this fact.
For the record, I think that the Navalny affair is a massive hoax a la the Skripal affair.

Posted by: Rob | Sep 3 2020 17:59 utc | 44

Navalny seems to be of no consequence in Russia. The Russian authorities, however, often act unlawfully and unintelligently by jailing him for minor violations like demonstrating without authorisation. Big deal! But then he gets the western media attention that has the western public believing that Navalny is powerful opposition figure.
Whoever pulled this current thing with Navalny, whatever the thing is, wanted exactly the reaction that we are now seeing – the ganging up on Russian, again, by the US, the UK and the EU, with Germany taking the lead. If the world survives these creatures that are “leaders’ (mine they are not) the ganging up on Russia in the last few years, and on Assange, will be known as the the true history of infamy.
Why they are ganging up on Russia so brazenly and brutally for the umpteenth time in a a short time is not precisely established, and this time it is not clear. I tend to agree with b that it probably has primarily to do with Belarus, but there are many motives at play. What is obvious is that the alliance of the ganger-upers is sticking together using the same old tricks. Because they work, and they work because the western public believes them. It would be necessary to actually find out exactly what, why and who so that this ganging up stops once and for all.

Posted by: JB | Sep 3 2020 18:17 utc | 46

Posted by: davenitup | Sep 3 2020 13:36 utc | 7
IMO
– Once you have sufficient capital and control means of production, you make the rules and you finance the army. At that point, what need is there for the sovereign. See French Revolution.
– Terms like Liberal, Conservative, Fascist, Democracy, Socialism are theoretical constructs which may be useful for talking purposes but do not apply (literally) to reality – they model reality.
Words are not reality.

Posted by: jared | Sep 3 2020 18:26 utc | 48

Re: US elections

PA, FL polls (pdf) from Quinnipiac
Biden +3% in FL (based on past years polls, this means likely Trump ties or wins FL)
Biden +8% in PA
Biden has lower favorability in FL
Trump has lower favorability in PA
Top issues in FL: 1. economy 2. law&order 3. covid
Top issues in PA: 1. economy 2. covid 3. law&order

Posted by: ptb | Sep 3 2020 19:15 utc | 50

Yeah sure the Ruskies couldn’t help it. They always have to use this novichok, which is guaranteed to point the finger at them. But for some reason, they just can’t think of anything else to use. /s

Posted by: blues | Sep 3 2020 19:22 utc | 52

Why does Germany allow the US to occupy them and treat them like lapdogs?

Posted by: Contra-Conspiraloon | Sep 3 2020 19:36 utc | 54

Question to the bar: with the digital economy created, where does the paper money go to die?
I mean, I remember seeing a video eleven truckloads of $100 bills going to Iraq for Sunni awakening.
How does the empire pay people off, not shoot at back?
{snark}How do Russia and Iran pay the Taliban to kill US soldiers?{/snark}
Key fobs, anyone?

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Sep 3 2020 20:23 utc | 56

Contra-Conspiraloon @54
The occupation of Germany immediately post WWII (didn’t happen post WWI) by, first the US, UK, FR and the USSR (East Germany as it became) and then, essentially only the USA, was perhaps justifiable for the first few years post the war. (Ditto Japan.)
But for 75 years???? Wherein lies the justification for nearly a century of occupation? Neither Germany nor Japan need the USA to hold their hands, to ensure that they behave themselves like good little folks. (Well, we know what the US considers “good behavior”: do as we want.)
The US occupation hasn’t prevented Germany’s rise to power in the EU…quite other.
The importance of staying in occupation is continuing the cold war, maintaining the military bases and their arsenals pointed at Russia… Japan is the base (along with SK) for pointing weapons at China & NK…

Posted by: Anne | Sep 3 2020 20:27 utc | 58

@Laguerre 55
You have no idea what are you talking about. You are embarrassing yourself.
Pls stop.

Posted by: DG | Sep 3 2020 20:43 utc | 60

The Ottoman empire was defeated in World War I and carved up. Turkey arose from the central part, yet all its offshore islands were awarded to Greece and Italy. After Italy lost World War II, they were transferred to Greece
Here’s a visual of the current Turkey-Greece situation. No wonder Turkey is concerned. . .h/t g2mil

Posted by: Don Bacon | Sep 3 2020 20:56 utc | 62

AtaBrit @5–
The answer dwells within the Outlaw US Empire’s Fracking Ponzi Scheme that’s been dissected by many, including Max Keiser of the Keiser Report. Of the many reports done by them on fracking, IMO this one touches all the bases and is worth 15 minutes of everyone’s time to watch and learn. With NS2 out of the way, all Natgas prices would rise since the overall supply will not be as great as anticipated going forward thus giving the banks a better chance to get some of their bond money back. Further info can be found reading the reports by David Hughes that stick to the physical geology prospects for fracking which informs you why so much money must be constantly poured into the well holes.
So at least watch the video and ask some follow-up questions if you have any and save the reports to read with your morning tea.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 3 2020 21:16 utc | 64

Some who are aware might ask “Why are they pushing so hard and so fast this time, and whats the end game?”
The timing might be accelerated due to the Coming Grand Solar Minimum. One faction of the predatory elite was banking on using Global Warming/Climate Change to force change. A growing awareness the threat was not imminent enough and a coming Little Ice Age meant they needed an accelerator to take us into the 4Th IR at Warp Speed Plus.
To fully understand requires a discussion on the role of Communism and Fascism. For brevity I will not go further back into the historical origins which takes us back to Platos Republic -Noble Lie and even further back to Cyrus and Zoroastrianism
The Enlightenment enabled the illuminated elite the means for creating the coming Age of Darkness . The Enlightenment brought forth the belief that man could be ruled without laws that were constrained by Natural or Gods laws. As Hitler and Stalin both admitted, their actions were legal based on their countries (mans) laws. The same is true today in US. The constitution has been corrupted by legal precedent.
The belief in Christian values had acted as a great constraint on the ability of the psychopathic predatory elite, which is why they attacked it starting from the 18th century(some might argue as early as the 16th century with Reformation. )
In the 19th century there was enormous increase in post-moral cynicism and ruthlessness due to the ideas of Nietzsche and the ideology of Social Darwinism, leading to nationalist-fascist-militarism, “scientific-socialist” Communism and in the middle monopolistic-exploitive capitalism. This set the stage for a century of war and Satanic cruelty in the Age of Reason
Compounding the problem is the elite are now united by their own Religion. That religion is Transhumanism, an extension of Gnosticism. They are Homeo Deus. We are neanderthals (Homo I) They consider themselves your Gods and our only purpose is to serve them. Those who cant serve or are not needed will be eliminated.
G. K. Chesterton had it right, “when people cease to believe in God it is not that they believe in nothing, but that they believe in anything.”
The destruction of the belief in the God-man Jesus Christ led to new divination and deification, the pursuit and celebration of the man-god, “homo deus,” and Nietzsche’s conception of the post-moral “Superman.”
The marriage of the sub-moral Darwinian idea of “survival of the fittest” and Nietzsche’s idea of the post-moral will to power produced a predatory mindset that exists today and is promoting Fascism through the guise of Technocracy and Neoliberalism . Eugenics and Malthusian beliefs are now called Sustainability, Population Control and Genetics .
Fascism appears to be opposite of Communism but its mostly the same . The Predatory Elite created both. Fascism is typified by totalitarian attempts to impose state control over all aspects of life: political, social, cultural, and economic , and was passed off under the name of Communism by duping the working class and marketing it as workers utopian Marxism. Facsism marketed itself to a working class that embraced Patriotism/Nationalism, Capitalism and Racism
The original ideals of the left leaning proletariat were subsumed to state control of Capitalists/Production. In fascism you have Capitalist control over state or in partnership with state such as with ,Mussolini like Public-Private Partnerships that exploit the working class without the illusion of Marxism . In the 21st Century we have the illusion of Democratic Capitalism in the West or Capitalism with Chinese characteristics in the East. Both are Fascist.
The fascist state regulates and controls (as opposed to nationalizing) the means of production. The only socialism is Corporate Socialism. Fascism exalts the nation or state and corporation as superior to the individuals composing it. Fascism like Communism uses populist rhetoric; calls for a heroic mass effort; and demands loyalty to a single leader or party, often to the point of a cult of personality.
After the end of WWII in which we supposedly defeated Fascism, half the World ended up as Communist, including Poland and China which were the alleged reasons we went to War against Germany and Japan. Communism, especially Stalinism (not so much Maoism) was actually more Fascism than Marxism. The democratic half became anti -communists creating the Cold War to prop up the Military and Intelligence Industrial Complex that would subvert Democracy globally and transition it to Fascism.
Fascists like Allen Dulles and Bush and Industrialists/Wall Street who had backed Hitler snd admired Mussolini took cover behind anti-Communist propaganda and managed to unite under Neoliberal economics, public private partnerships, and the Business Roundtable using Dark Money and MSM control to control elections and perceptions.
In 1975 Project Democracy (its destruction) planned the disintegration of the US economy and society and implemented under direction of the Trilateral Commission which controlled Government starting with the Carter administration although Ford/Kissinger/Bush laid the foundations (NSSM 200, Swine Flu, Bush privatizing the CIA as the Enterprise). An attempt to formally change the constitution failed and a workaround found with FEMA and Continuity of Government Plans. They finished off the remaining Nationalists over the next 2 decades with Israeli honey traps , wiretaps and PROMIS, and the predators were allowed to seize control of both Parties leadership with Dark Money. By 2000 the Constitution and our Democracy had been Reinvented and sent to the scrap heap with the Chad tainted farce of an election and following up with the criminal 9/11 abomination that symbolically represented the Controlled Demolition of Democracy and the American Dream. The Predatory psychopathic elite were in full control and united in all except for a few details that would be worked out in secrecy.
Yet the illusion of Democracy is still strong among the US blue pill takers with its 2 party fake wrestling system . Just as Chinas illusion of Socialism under one party rule. In the US as in China the party (parties) are both controlled by a handful of billionaire globalist predatory elites marching in lockstep under cover of the WEF”s 4Th Industrial Revolution and Agenda 2030
China converted their Communism (Fascism without private ownership) to Fascism in all but name, maintaining authoritarian rule and allowing private ownership, and converting state ownership to private ownership of Party members which are subsidized by the states working class . They are subsidized by the people in the form of taxes , debt and giving up their share of the states profits which previously were paid out in the form of social benefits under Communism
At the same time the Soviet Union chose to drop all pretense of Socialism and choose the Wests crypto Fascism, and shortly thereafter Europe would fall to the Fascist European Union that would be dominated by Germany. This was a goal Hitler himself sought to achieve , although Germany now was occupied by the US and the City of London still pulls the strings while staying outside the reach of the EU control.
I believe the Fake Cold War being staged between China and US is simply a useful tool for both countries to assume more control over their population by using an external enemy to blame for problems at home and demand more sacrifices while feeding the various Military, Intelligence, Security, Tech industrial Complexes. Maybe they will use a war to effect population reduction by agreeing to rules that will protect the elites property. Like in WWII where miraculously many big German companies who had US partners remained unscathed amid the ruins of population centers, including IG Farbens HQ
In truth China and the US/Europe elites are partners the 4th Industrial Revolution that will spawn the New Global Fascist Republic
As for Covid my theory is this was part of the plan for a Global Fascist Republic. A plan thats been evolving and been incrementally directed for at least 250 years. The plan went into its operational phase at Warp Speed , at the the time of the new Millennium. Over this time there has been an acceleration as industry and technology have provided the predator class more tools to ultimately control the world and all its resources and people. SARS and Swine Flu of 2009 were all test runs for COVID. After 2009 the Billionaires club got together, issued Rockefeller’s LockStep plan and Gates announced the Decade of Vaccines. Plans for the next Pandemic as a trigger for more authoritarianism began in earnest.
The old order must be demolished to bring in the new. This is whats happening. Amidst the ashes the Great Reset will begin in 2021 and will be announced at Davos and will be completed by 2030 to fulfill Agenda 2030. Only thing for certain is most of those bottom 90% ers in the developed world will be poorer and less free, and there will be far fewer of you as you can be replaced by AI and Robots.

Posted by: Kay Fabe | Sep 3 2020 21:17 utc | 66

@karlof1 | 64
That is incredibly interesting and it makes a lot of sense now you explain it. I thought the fracking industry had just collapsed, but of course… very interesting. Will have a look. Thanks.

Posted by: AtaBrit | Sep 3 2020 21:21 utc | 68

Circling back to Covid-19 for a moment…
Interesting articles about the process the corona virus uses to inflict its damage on the human body. The gist is that it may be a disruption of the systems that produce the bradykinin peptide that leads to the symptoms of Covid-19. That theory explains a number of the symptoms of the disease and also tends to explain the widely varying organs and systems that are affected by the virus.
The first article gives an overview, the second is a bit narrower and more technical.
Both illustrate that we are watching scientific analysis and discovery in real time regarding this virus and that process can result in significant changes in the understanding of the phenomenon.
https://elemental.medium.com/a-supercomputer-analyzed-covid-19-and-an-interesting-new-theory-has-emerged-31cb8eba9d63
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/is-a-bradykinin-storm-brewing-in-covid-19–67876

Posted by: loneplateau | Sep 3 2020 21:33 utc | 70

@ karlof1 | Sep 3 2020 21:36 utc | 71 with Xi speech link….thanks
Maybe that is why the Market tanked today. One can only hope that some adults of the West are listening somewhere.
Given Trump’s virus failure that keeps escalating I expect him to pour gasoline on the fires he has been starting….the next 60 days will be quite interesting I expect……to Hell in a hand basket anyone?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 3 2020 21:47 utc | 72

Posted by: AnneR | Sep 3 2020 14:40 utc | 18
But, it’s freedom gas. Would you like some freedom fries with that?
The Green Party in Canada was in favour of R2PP. They are also in favour of oligarchs taking money that isn’t theirs to “save” the world from climate change. See Planet of the Humans. Leaches really.

Posted by: Tom | Sep 3 2020 22:13 utc | 74

@ 74 tom… thanks for the documentary mention – planet of humans.. i will take a look at that…

Posted by: james | Sep 3 2020 22:20 utc | 76

David Graeber, activist anthropologist and author of Debt: The First 5,000 Years, has passed away all too young at 59.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 3 2020 22:31 utc | 78

Thank you, dh-mtl | Sep 3 2020 20:24 utc | 57.
At first my eyes glazed over at the size of your comment, but it was very readable and even if others may take a different tack, I think you did a creditable job explaining the world scenario.

Posted by: juliania | Sep 3 2020 22:41 utc | 80

Btw (in my head) this also connects to the recent “export ban” (in essence) on Chinese AI.
I think it’s safe to assume that (whether right or wrong) they now feel confident that despite how they won’t launch first they’ll still win even if entirely on their own and also be able to do so without megadeaths.
Or maybe I read it all entirely wrong.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 3 2020 22:50 utc | 82

On Xi’s speech, there is also pouring’s comment @ 15 to consider.

Posted by: juliania | Sep 3 2020 23:08 utc | 84

karlof1 @64:
Natgas prices would rise since the overall supply will not be as great as anticipated going forward thus giving the banks a better chance to get some of their bond money back
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What do you mean when you say “banKs”
You probably don’t care what it means when you say that word “bank”. Do you mean deposit institutions?
Or by “bank” do you mean Wall Street firms that manage money for private investors?
There is some similarity between the two in that if you have idle cash you might have that money held by one or the other.
But regardless of what you mean (or don’t bother to care to mean) you can be sure that very little of any “banks” own money is invested in fracking. The banks that invest in fracking are the Wall Street investment firms and they put other peoples money into fracking not their own.
The fracking that Max Keiser calls a Ponzi scheme is fracking for oil. Fracking for natural gas is not so much a Ponzi scheme as it is an environmental disaster. As long as the frackers don’t have to pay for the environmental damage, gas fracking is profitable.

Posted by: jinn | Sep 3 2020 23:36 utc | 86

Posted by: juliania | Sep 3 2020 22:41 utc | 80
Posted by: james | Sep 3 2020 23:18 utc | 85
Thanks for the comments.

Posted by: dh-mtl | Sep 3 2020 23:56 utc | 88

Thank you Karlof1 (64)for the very interesting link.
This is shattering,but how about the media will not mention it.
This happens often,remember the pressconference with the alleged chloride poisoned kids from Douma.In relation with that some OPCW reunion where russians tell the truth but are ignored.MH17 etc.If the media talk about it at all,then by mouth of some inside defense expert who offers this to the public as a joke by his dictatorness.Look how crazy he is Luckyshenko (laughs)
Actually in the Tass-article you link to,he comes over as fairly clever.
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Posted by: willie | Sep 4 2020 0:10 utc | 90

Juliania: thank you, I didn’t think of that even though I read the comment.
I think my bias might be that I too easily and perhaps wrongly consider the India-China issues to be internal Indian political infighting and relatively contained outbreaks of madness. India’s government has gone completely bonkers if they’re actively encouraging a fight with China rather than suffering from internal troublemakers and extremists within their own power structure. Both China and India deserves much better than to have to waste lives and resources on anything like it.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 4 2020 0:56 utc | 92

The questions about banks and gas above, please take the time to watch this Keiser Report as it explains a great deal and you only need to watch the first half of the program–12.5 minutes.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 4 2020 1:15 utc | 94

“Well, I heard there were these minor events in the 20th Century called World War 1 and World War 2, which I’ve been told had something to do with it. Not sure exactly what, the details are a little vague, and to be honest it’s probably all CIA disinformation/conspiracy theory anyway.”
Posted by: Contra-Conspiraloon | Sep 3 2020 19:36 utc | 54
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Well aren’t you just a class act troll. Can’t really make out what you’re trying to say with that dick in your mouth, you sound a little garbled?
Yes we know USA still (permanently) occupies Japan and Germany. Why?
Why doesn’t Russia still occupy Germany? They actually defeated Ger and suffered more casualties than France, GB and USA combined.
Why doesn’t GB occupy N.Africa, Germany, Italy or the Pacific?
Why doesn’t France have permanent bases in Germany?
You must be a dumbfuck hypocritical American- Yes?

Posted by: CitizenX | Sep 4 2020 2:46 utc | 96

Should a Covid vaccine be released, what are people’s thoughts on getting it?
Myself, i have zero interest.

Posted by: Kevin | Sep 4 2020 3:18 utc | 98

@ Kevin | Sep 4 2020 3:18 utc | 98
After having watched this video, I am pretty sure that I’ll not take the vaccine. The talk is in German but with English under title. Prof. Dr. med. Sucharit Bhakdi is no conspiracy theorist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eR1j9vqKi8

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Sep 4 2020 3:33 utc | 100