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August 14, 2020

Why Has Joe Biden Chosen Kamala Harris?

Can anyone explain to me why Joe Biden selected Kamala Harris as running mate?

I find nothing that makes her an attractive candidate:

  • We just had a summer during which Democrats applauded to Black Live Matters and cheered anti-police riots. Harris has the well deserved (vid) reputation of being a hard line prosecutor and is unlikely to be sympathetic to the issue. Stocks of private prison companies went up when Harris was confirmed as vice president candidate.
  • Harris comes from California. She will not attract critical swing state voters.
  • Her campaign during the primaries was chaotic. She polled at some 2%, about the worst number of all candidates.
  • She has little governing and zero foreign policy experience. As Joe Biden has obviously (vid) mental problems a more experienced potential replacement would have been more assuring.
  • Kamala means "horrible, terrible" in Finnish.

In my view the choice of Harris as VP candidate increases the already high chance that Biden will lose the presidential election.

So what was the real reason for this choice?


The Wall Street Journal headline hints to a potential answer but my hunch is that there is more to it.

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Posted by: donkeytale | Aug 15 2020 0:14 utc | 101

From your source:

GDP YoY GDP QoQ Interest rate Inflation rate Jobless rate Gov. Budget Debt/GDP Current Account
US -9.50% -32.90% 0.25% 1.00% 10.20% -4.60% 106.90% -2.30
China 3.20% 11.50% 3.85% 2.70% 5.70% -2.80% 50.50% 1.00

Crowing about a 2.7% increase in retail sales is like saying look how nice the front lawn looks when the house is on fire. Keep putting lipstick on that pig, you're going to need a lot of it.

Posted by: One Too Many | Aug 15 2020 0:28 utc | 101

Kamala Harris doesn't appeal to blacks and latinos.

She doesn't appeal to progressives - who have been shafted by both DNC and Sanders.

And because of Biden's age, Trump will make the election about Kamala so that his MAGA supporters go to the polls in droves.

Democrats already shot themselves in the foot over the impeachment. Then they nominated a another Centrist Deep-Stater (like Hillary and Obama). Now they nominate Obama-in-drag, complete with Obama-like betrayal of people of color.

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The Deep State will never allow the U.S. President to be chosen by a democratic process. The Presidency is too important to the Empire to allow that. You get the Deep State selection and an entertaining public relations show to go with it.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 15 2020 0:39 utc | 102

Cont. #103 (accidentally hit Enter):

[EThe problem] = Either way, the problem...

Cont. 4) It is known Kennedy had a plan for a second invasion of Cuba, to happen between March and June 1964. If the mafia was indeed so powerful behind-the-scenes of the White House, why didn't Johnson continue with his predecessor plan? More obviously: why was Kennedy assassinated in the first place then, if he would invade Cuba again? The only conclusion to be taken here is that the mafia itself was just a pawn in a bigger game.

5) The USA was at the height of its power in 1963. There still was no "deep state", as it wasn't needed. It is too farfetched to claim the CIA and the mafia acted in a rogue manner, without at least the consent of the Veep (who's next in line of succession).

Note that Haig's and Trento's versions of the story aren't conflicting: Johnson allegedly was convinced Castro did murder Kennedy (Haig), so he didn't want the Warren Commission to advance any further in order for it not to find out Cuba's hand behind Kennedy's murder, thus triggering a popular opinion thirst for nuclear war (Trento). But this version is simply bizarre: if Johnson knew more than the Warren Commission, then he had full control (or near full) over the CIA. Therefore he knew the mafia was involved. Therefore he knew Castro wasn't involved. Therefore he knew there wasn't any involvement by the USSR in Kennedy's assassination.

The only sane conclusion to be taken here is that the mafia wasn't a factor at all. On the contrary: Johnson assassinated Kennedy precisely to stop the mafia meddling with American foreign policy. The goal was to set up the mafia in a perfect plausible deniability trap (hence Oswald's necessary involvement) in order to neutralize it later, thus killing two birds with one stone (Kennedy and the mafia). The alternate scenario would be for Kennedy to continue with his madness over Cuba, setting up an invasion of a big island with a strong militia with American soldiers - at a time the USSR was still growing at a significant pace (it would achieve MAD more or less by the end of the decade) and the Vietnam War was becoming treacherous. He then had to murder Kennedy in order to at least let Cuba go.

Ironically, one year later, Johnson would ramp up the Vietnam War in order to be reelected. If he did so against his own will, then it is an illustrative case of the USA beginning to morph inexorably into a war economy - which by the end of the Vietnam War it would certainly become.

Posted by: vk | Aug 15 2020 0:52 utc | 103

@ Posted by: donkeytale | Aug 15 2020 1:01 utc | 109

But why would the mafia kill Kennedy, if he had a second invasion in the making? It would be killing the goose that lays the golden eggs. Remember: the theory is the USA would conquer Cuba and make it a giant resort with Casinos having absolute freedom, thus greatly benefiting the American mafia. The mafia was, therefore, in favor of the continuation of the invasion of Cuba, not against.

The most likely explanation here is the mafia wasn't in control of the situation: it didn't control Oswald and it didn't have a choice on Oswald's fate. That only leaves the CIA (which we know fully briefed Johnson at the least).

Johnson almost immediately called off the second invasion of Cuba (April 7th, 1964). And nothing happened to him or his family. Well, if the mafia killed one (very beloved) POTUS, it certainly could kill another one - specially a not directly democratically elected one (it's not in the American tradition to take the veep into consideration until 2016). The only explanation here is the CIA (therefore, Johnson) was in control of the situation the whole time.

And think about the USA in 1963: an exuberant empire growing at an amazing speed, where every POTUS elected would be so with ample consensus and absolute power (hegemony). It is very unlikely to imagine a POTUS in an early 1960s USA to be so easily taken down without his Veep's direct participation.

Posted by: vk | Aug 15 2020 1:17 utc | 104

donkey.. talking down to others is not a recipe for success...

"The point is the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer everywhere including in the US and China."

i agree with this viewpoint.... a small number of people in china and the usa getting much richer, and a much bigger number remaining poor... however my impression from travelling is that the number of people in china who have moved into a type of middle class whereby they can travel the world and etc etc, is much bigger then ever... the economic set up has really raised many more boats in china then can be said for the usa at this present moment in time... we'll see how it goes moving forward.. i am personally under no illusion that china is some utopian paradise... there is a reason many new chinese have migrated to the area where i live and i know it is because they seek a better environment and surroundings then they have where they are from.... now maybe wg or vk are going to come and straighten me out on this, but i believe what my eyes see firsthand..

Posted by: james | Aug 15 2020 1:19 utc | 105

b, I think your point that Harris is a detriment as part of the Democratic ticket - but only if you suppose that what voters want is the decisive factor.

I also didn't see this making sense, until I read the following from a comment on today's Water Cooler at

August 14, 2020 at 4:12 pm

"That politico article about the left wing is spot-on. Allow me to propose a qanon conspiracy of my own: Biden was never intended to be the presidential nominee. Harris was.

I think the Democratic leadership wanted Harris from the start. She checks all the boxes: neoliberal, not white, female. All other options were either after thoughts or completely unacceptable (E.g. Sanders).

Unfortunately, that pesky thing called voter preference fouled up the Dems’ plans and Harris got smoked before the Iowa caucuses. Donors saw her polling and realized no amount of money would secure her Iowa victory.

The rest of the contest comes down to Sanders and Biden. We all know how that played out, so no need to go into detail. However, when the Dems knife Sanders and see how dusty Biden is, they realize Harris is back in the game. Biden as Prez, Harris as Veep. It’s the perfect opportunity to backdoor her into POTUS and end-run around the electorate!

That’s my political conspiracy. Probably bunk but, I think, plausible..."

My thanks to the above commenter - this is just a partial comment, but it did make sense to me. The factor we need to remember is who has control of the process. Dems, those who are active in the process, were not impressed with her as a candidate for president. b's point is she doesn't strengthen the ticket, normally how you choose a runningmate.

There was a thread within the Water Cooler to the effect that the 2016 strategy may be the only one available to progressives, even if it meant re-electing Trump.

I had been going to vote Green. But apparently Howie Hawkins is a Russiagate fan. I can't go there! International affairs are important to me.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 15 2020 1:23 utc | 106

Kamala Harris would be a better president by far than the one we have. By far. She's a female Obama, steps and fetches for Wall Street just like Obama, and slings right-center Dem party bullshit very well. Establishment capitalism is for everyone! And when she & Biden take over, that's what's going to happen. This rickety system is going to finally collapse during their tenure. It needs to go left to meet up with Bernie, but it won't under this dynamic duo, not enough. And just remember that Joe Biden is more responsible for the Patriot Act than anyone else. He's more fond of law n order than he will admit. During the crisis, the terminal crisis, of capitalism as we know it, law n order is what the people demand above all. Dumb fuck Trump has his head too far up his own ass to be of much value to anyone. He hasn't got a clue about the management of law n order since he's been a crook all his life and he'll be luck to stay out of prison after he looses this election.

Posted by: jadan | Aug 15 2020 1:29 utc | 107

Reformist politics are disappearing in the rear view mirror.


Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Aug 15 2020 1:59 utc | 108

Posted by: vk | Aug 14 2020 22:56 utc | 85

Riddle me this:

What were Johnson's actual connections with the Mafia? I read Robert Karo's 3 volume biography of Johnson and I never saw any of that. And how many rifles were there in Dallas that day? And how does the incompetence of the Warren Commission compare with that of NASA & the Rogers Commission, so well described by Richard Feynman in the last chapter of "What Do You Care, What Other People Think"? And Oswald, a U.S. Marine on a top secret base in Japan defects to Russia; but the Russians are barely interested? They willingly allow him to defect back to the US; after that, according to the Warren Commission, the FBI never even interviewed him or kept tabs on him?

For what it's worth, shortly before he died, a seedy and demoralized Johnson was interviewed by one of the big three networks, and claimed to believe that Cuba was behind it.

Posted by: groucho | Aug 15 2020 2:12 utc | 109

Kamala Harris is as Indian as Obama is African, so just only the skin color.
Three main reasons she was chosen: she is a woman, she is of color and she is from California. Nothing about her personality of views thus.

Posted by: Antonym | Aug 15 2020 2:13 utc | 110

I use the nom de plume Madison James only on the Saker and MoA. Imagine my surprise today when I got an e-mail from saying they've confirmed my e-mail addie but needed my mobile number so I could be part of some special club of his and be a close adviser and stuff. I just wonder how my info, false though it is, would up in the hands of a Trump organization. Does Saker & MoA sell our info or a reader goes through and sells it to tRump.

Posted by: Madison James | Aug 15 2020 2:15 utc | 111

At 112 I meant to say, of course, that I think your point is correct,b. And one could also suppose, as others have said, that neither Trump nor Biden really want to win. Which would make for an interesting finale.

Be safe, everyone!

Posted by: juliania | Aug 15 2020 2:31 utc | 112

annie #97

Thank you, a clarifying comment.

bevin #77, thank you too.

Sad for the USA.

Bleak times.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 15 2020 2:42 utc | 113

Madison James #117

leaky email addresses: the entire internet is a sieve. Everything passing through gets caught on the NSA grate. Based on that assumption you should proceed with caution and expect the odd email as your address and nom de plume may well have been sniffed out on exit from your device loooong before it reached its destination.

That router on the wall or that wireless service is a treacherous weak link.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 15 2020 2:58 utc | 114

Kamala Harris's mother is Tamil, from Chennai. Her chief of staff is a Sri Lankan Tamil. As Jen has noted, Tamils were indentured labour for the British colonies, and today they are probably the most powerful and well organised ethnic group of the Indian diaspora. They are a globalised ethnicity. The English foreign policy establishment regards the Tamils as a useful ethnicity for political leverage and propagandistic messaging.
The Tamil Tigers fought the Sri Lankan state for many years in a terrorist-style war, and were conclusively defeated. The Rajapaksa brothers, who defeated the Tigers and foreclosed on the idea of a separate Tamil state within Sri Lanka, have just been re-elected with a mandate to hasten cooperation with China. Sinhalese nationalism with Chinese characteristics is not at all popular with the imperials. They will be pleased to have a Tamil conduit in a position of power.
Which just goes to show what a beat-up this P.o.C. thing is. Just not all black and white, but many different narratives, and all delicious grist for the fourth estate. If she gets there it's going to be sickening. It is already.

Posted by: Australian lady | Aug 15 2020 3:02 utc | 115

uncle tungsten 121

Anyone thinking uncle five-eyes is not aware of who is saying what on the internet is somewhat naive.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 15 2020 3:17 utc | 116

psychohistorian 37

Looking at some of the comments, particulay Jen and Australian Lady, Harris ticks all the boxes. Indian anti china black ...

Modi I think was somewhat skeptical of US backing India with anything more than words in the dust up in the hills awhile back. Perhaps it is Harris's job to convince India that US will fight China to the last Indi... er American.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 15 2020 3:26 utc | 117

casting pearls before swine... oh well. i didn't realize i was disagreeing with you so strongly, or that my comments were insincere... this is my last comment to you...

Posted by: james | Aug 15 2020 3:44 utc | 118

Friday night hilarity

donkeytale @Aug15 1:01 #109 trots out the establishment misdirection that the mob killed Kennedy and then complains #Aug15 3:24 #124 about a "majoritarian blog bias".

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Looking forward to vk's answers to donkeytale's questions @Aug15 1:01 #109, though.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 15 2020 3:50 utc | 119

You think to complicated. Harris has been nominated for two reasons:
1. She is a woman and non-white.
2. She is non-threatening.

Posted by: m | Aug 15 2020 3:51 utc | 120

casting pearls before swine... :)

Better off casting them at them - though preferably something cheaper and holding more kinetic energy ..

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 15 2020 3:52 utc | 121

@ Peter AU1 | Aug 15 2020 3:26 utc | 125 with the back and forth about Harris's India connect et al

If you think about it, the exceptionalist culture of India fits with that of empire in contrast with China culture.

Empire knows it can't stay in control by merit and they can't have the China aligned socialist axis show their anti-humanistic traits more than the Covid virus is where from here? I somehow can't conceive of full bore trade war with each side having its own supply chain and protection for it...the world is too interwoven at this time for this to be real in less than a year minimum.

So, where from here? Will the public ever get to have input to the social contract of the future, if there is one?

Where are the fucking aliens? The mass of humanity, not to mention the rest of the earth's species, have been stuck in this poorly designed freak show long enough to be eligible to file a claim against interstellar species abuse....

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 15 2020 4:25 utc | 122

@ 129 peter.. some people appear confused by honesty of feeling and straight forwardness.. that is all i mean by that.. it is what i offer either way! it confuses some people.. i'll leave it at that..

Posted by: james | Aug 15 2020 4:51 utc | 123

b thank you for an excellent post.

There are two disconcerting aspects to this whole tawdry saga:

the video you link to runs for 46 MINUTES and 38 SECONDS!!! That is an OD of dementia!

The image you reproduced of the two scumbags walking across the stage with Biden's face mask upside down?

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 15 2020 4:56 utc | 124

"Instead of developing their farm system the Democratic leadership is just a bunch of corrupt, senescent septuagenarians determined to hold onto their partisan power until the grave. Developing an attractive, competent group of future contenders is just too threatening. Fortunately, the Squad has taken them on and is extirpating the leadership one by one, though not fast enough."

Posted by: JohnH | Aug 14 2020 18:48 utc | 32

What you said ringed true of the USSR Politburo prior to the demise of the USSR. History does seem to rhyme. Too bad we don't have Spitting Image to entertain us.

Posted by: Tom | Aug 15 2020 4:57 utc | 125

As #45 said, it was the zionist that chose her. She was the only candidate that was servile enough to go the AIPAC conference even when Bernie did not do so. She is an isreali firster and her husband is her mossad handler. She even went so far as to have a jewish wedding so effectively america will have its first jewish president who they have been pushing for years. This is after she pushes biden down a flight of stairs or he has some other type of accident.
One other thing that needs to be considered. So called African Americans have been responible for some heinous crimes along their masters. When you look at colin powell who was of jamaican ancestry, the oligarchs were able to point to a brown face as they slaughtered millions in the middle east. You have the mutt obama who was not truly african american and you get the same killer results. Susan Rice is another one as we now know about kamala who not African American but plays the card to get to political office. As an African American, she doesen't fool us and I think you will see a lot of Black people staying at home. In the end, it doesn't really matter. Mark Twain said, "if voting really mattered, it would be against the law."

Posted by: Tonymike | Aug 15 2020 4:58 utc | 126

b - Your comment about the meaning of Kamala Harris's name in Finish is nothing but an ad hominem attack and I expect better from you. You should be ashamed to stoop so low.

Her background is Jamaican-Indian and the name comes from Sanskrit and Hindu mythology and means "lotus" or "pale red". It's also the name of a goddess in Hindu mythology. Nothing Finish.

Having said that, I do share some of your concerns.

Posted by: John Zelnicker | Aug 15 2020 5:03 utc | 127

Peter AU1 # 123

Anyone thinking uncle five-eyes is not aware of who is saying what on the internet is somewhat naive.

Exactly that. And it applies to everyone on the internet and the mobile phone and the landline phone and likely even those wristwatch thingys. GPS in car? they got that too.

And all those 'smart home' devices that you can talk to and 'command' to play your music... they are all on the list.

Wouldn't a Carrington event be a poke in the eye?

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 15 2020 5:08 utc | 129

Jackrabbit #127

Looking forward to vk's answers to donkeytale's questions @Aug15 1:01 #109, though.

Yep me too. That will take some mansplaining. I think donkeytale speared the mammoth with that one.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 15 2020 5:11 utc | 130

"She has little governing and zero foreign policy experience."

So she has all the necessary requirements for running the US when the President is incapable.

Posted by: RoHa | Aug 15 2020 5:23 utc | 131

I hate Trump and his swamp as much as anyone. However, I cant stomach Biden/Harris. Basically the DNC flipped off their base so it looks to me like the DNC is throwing the election (actually we knew that with Biden but going with Harris is giving them the bird with both hands) . Trump couldn't have picked a better opponent for himself.

Both parties are controlled by the same Globalists. Trump is their trojan horse, pretending to be otherwise but allowing the Globalists to exploit COVID/BLM so they can push through their Green Technocratic 2030 Agenda.

OTOH, if Trumps mission was to bankrupt America, he has already accomplished his mission. Him, Ross and Mnuchin are experts in bankruptcy and foreclosures. They have demolished the Real Economy and got the gun toting right sitting on the sidelines rooting for their favorite Tyrant. A complete disintegration of the US would occur if Biden/Harris were to win or contest a Trump win, as the right has little tolerance for Tyranny by others. That would lead to civil war no doubt. Remember, its not who votes that counts, or how they vote, its who counts the votes. Thats done in each state.

I suspect the election results will be contested with the purpose of creating total chaos and breaking up the US into several parts that will lead up to the Great Global Reset in January. While a civil war in the US seemingly puts the US on the sidelines a New World Order free of American hegemony will be supported by the rest of the world. Unknown to most, the Global elite who secretly control the US will also control the new Global Republic. Out of the cooking pan and into the fire for them since there will be no freedom or democracy in this New World, and the same tyrants will rule them as in the US.

A divided America, after the end of the Civil War will reluctantly join the Global Republic as several separate nations. Global peace keeping forces will keep the peace and the US military will be integrated into the Global Republics Peace Force.

Biden/Harris will run the West Coast state. Trump gets the East Coast . What they plan for the middle I don’t know, maybe just a bunch of independent states with trade agreements with the East and West. Or maybe a group of non-Trump Republicans take it and run it.

Bipartisan Plans are being worked out for the chaos to come that will be triggered by the elections

WASHINGTON — On the second Friday in June, a group of political operatives, former government and military officials, and academics quietly convened online for what became a disturbing exercise in the fragility of American democracy.

The group, which included Democrats and Republicans, gathered to game out possible results of the November election.....

“All of our scenarios ended in both street-level violence and political impasse,” said Rosa Brooks, a Georgetown law professor and former Defense Department official who co-organized the group known as the Transition Integrity Project. She described what they found in bleak terms: “The law is essentially ... it’s almost helpless against a president who’s willing to ignore it.”

Using a role-playing game that is a fixture of military and national security planning, the group envisioned a dark 11 weeks between Election Day and Inauguration Day, one in which Trump and his Republican allies used every apparatus of government — the Postal Service, state lawmakers, the Justice Department, federal agents, and the military — to hold onto power, and Democrats took to the courts and the streets to try to stop it.....

Brooks, Gilman, and others recruited a slate of players including a former swing state governor, a former White House chief of staff, and a former head of the Department of Homeland Security. They invited both Democrats and Republicans who they knew had concerns about Trump’s comments on the election; nearly 80 people in all were involved.

They included Republicans Trey Grayson, the former Kentucky secretary of state, and conservative commentator Bill Kristol, as well as Democrats Leah Daughtry, who was CEO of the 2008 and 2016 Democratic National Convention Committees, former White House ethics czar Norm Eisen, and progressive Democratic strategist Adam Jentleson.....

Trumps boys are also running Operation Blackout exercises in each state run by an Israeli company named Cybereason which specializes in cyber security. The exercises involved cyber attacks on election days that are blamed on another state and end in the cancellation /Postponement of the election and Martial Law

Posted by: Kay Fabe | Aug 15 2020 5:38 utc | 132

Kamala Harris must have been chosen by the Democrats to be Biden's running mate precisely because she has zero foreign policy experience, thus giving the Klintonator a potential backdoor to control US foreign policy as Secretary of State again or National Security Advisor.
Posted by: Jen | Aug 14 2020 20:24 utc | 56


The Swamp is still doubling down on its daydream of AmeriKKKa ruling the world with an iron fist + jackboots. And Killary is made-to-measure.

Luckily, Trump decides what Americans do/don't gossip about so they'll be gossiping about whether Kamala is more useless than Sleepy or vice versa. And Team Trump knows how to win an election which is more than can be said of the figureheads pretending to be in charge of the DNC...

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 15 2020 6:08 utc | 133

Kay Fabe #140

Surprise surprise. And every one of them was fully aware that if they failed to follow the script leading to civil disorder they would get no more dollars from the MIC or the Police Union or the local military fort conveniently located in every state.

They probably also considered the not so remote chance that their election rally events could be unfortunately invaded by the 'deplorables' or 'BLM whities' waving banners and throwing bricks.

Then they might be very mindful and even frequently reminded that there is always the chance that someone would accuse them of being 'ant-semitic' as "that always works".

Basically the DNC flipped off their base so it looks to me like the DNC is throwing the election (actually we knew that with Biden but going with Harris is giving them the bird with both hands) . Trump couldn't have picked a better opponent for himself.

Sure looks like that but if a credible third party run took off soon then there could be a start on the changemaking that is really needed in the USA. If there was one USA election that is wide open for a streaker to run then this is that election.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 15 2020 6:24 utc | 134

@Christian J. Chuba | Aug 14 2020 21:14 utc | 67

Had to be an African American Woman

How do you become an "African American" with a father from Jamaica and a mother from India/Sri Lanka?

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 15 2020 7:16 utc | 135

psychohistorian 130

Sometimes you have to just sit back and watch history in real time. Not for the squeamish I guess. For me it was late in life that I got the urge to travel a bit and see how other people lived, cultures and so forth. I would very much have liked for my children to be able to travel if they wanted to without any of this cold or hot war bullshit.

A bit of stuff on how China will react ect in a few of these threads. When china moves, US will find itself hit as hard as the heroic jawan in the Galwin gorge.

History is full of of clowns like US and wannabe India.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 15 2020 7:30 utc | 136

It mustt be obvious to everybody that the Russians did it. It has been proven beyond reasonable doubt that the Russians started their meddling with the murder of Caesar in 44 BC. Then you can follow their misdeeds through history easily. Assassinations, wars, theft, plunder, rape, child mole stations, animal mole stations, the evil criminal masterminds of the Kremlin always leave a thumbprint behind. I dont know how people can be so blind. The truth is there for all to see!

(/s just in case)

Posted by: Den lille abe | Aug 15 2020 8:22 utc | 137

With Biden winning the next action will be to get him declared incompetent and have Harris take over. With Harris "in charge" she will need a vice president, and guess who.

Tobi | Aug 14 2020 18:46 utc | 31:

I'm expecting the virus to be used to explain Biden's demise. The "deplorables" would get the blame. Harris declares some kind of nationwide lockdown to prevent any protest when Bill Gates pushes his Digital Certificate. But, Harris will soon find out that it's next to impossible to enforce it. As for the VP position, I can't see Hillary returning only to play second fiddle. It wouldn't matter anyway as the nation would be engulfed in chaos and violence.

Honestly, I'm with Jackrabbit on this one. The Democrats want Trump to win.

Posted by: Ian2 | Aug 15 2020 8:38 utc | 138

Kaye Fabe 132

This comes as no surprise at all. None whatsoever.

I will be most disappointed if their predictions fail to materialise, as will the vast majority of humanity I suspect.

The Zionist twits behind it all should be very careful what they wish for, because if the USA turns on itself who will take the role of their bully boy protector?

Posted by: eagle eye | Aug 15 2020 8:57 utc | 139

@uncle tungsten | Aug 15 2020 5:08 utc | 137

Wouldn't a Carrington event be a poke in the eye?

A quick note to say I appreciate your posts in general, and totally agree on your comments about those 'smart' devices. I see the 'smart' terminology as a kind of sign language between those in the know, one should keep anything marked as 'smart' at more than an arms length. It may be 'smart', but not the way most people think.

Indeed a Carrington Event would be more than a poke in the eye, it would cause an instant return to a society without abundant technology, and cause massive starvation and death. Such events are real and not fake like the covert-19. The Sun is a moderately variable star and the Carrington Event did indeed happen in 1859 when society was not as technologically vulnerable as it is today. It will happen again.

Another natural event of similar magnitude with even more recent historical precedent is the Tunguska 1908 meteor. If it happened over a populated area, it would wipe out millions in an instant if it hit for example St. Petersburg (city chosen since the Tunguska meteor would have hit St. Petersburg if it arrived only 4.5 hours later). Also the Chelyabinsk 2013 event should be a reminder that these things are real and do happen. If we rewind only 13 000 years (i.e. nothing even in the perspective of humans), a much bigger event erased the megafauna in all of north america, likely caused by a fragment of the Taurid stream. If it happened today, the US would be completely wiped off the map and the rest of the world would suffer as well.

The political events of today, exemplified now by this Harris imbecile, illustrates a society that has become completely self-consumed and totally ignorant of its own vulnerabilities. Regardless of any natural events like a Carrington Event or something bigger like the comet that caused the Younger Dryas, such a society has no future.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 15 2020 9:01 utc | 140

Concerning a US- Iranian conflict....
I do not think it will happen, Iran is not, absolutely not Iraq, and Iran has more or less been preparing for 40 years for a war scenario with the US. The US could have pounced 30 years ago China and Russia were not what they are today, and probably could not have intervened in a meaningful manner.
Russia has changed in a subtle manner, but still has an enormous nuclear deterrent, China has a lesser nuclear deterrent, but colossal armed forces and an almost incomprehensible economic power. In fact the US exists as a nation only by the grace of China. The US is completely in the stranglehold of China, economically.
Mind you, I am not China friendly, in fact I am not friendly at all, but one has to look at numbers and statistics, and they are not in US favor. Give China 5-10 years more, and they will laugh at US threats, maybe they even do today.
China's oppression is more subtle than the US kind, they rarely use force directly and the have plenty of patience and economic power.
China has 5000 years at leas of experience as an empire, they know how to do that, and they only interfere when subjugates get "cocky" like, else "pay the emperor his due".
I am no China lover, but I respect their accomplishments very much, and no matter what you read in the MSM, the Chinese people has seen an enormous rise in living standards the last 40 years. 10 million people of poverty every year, sure they do that.
Last I checked 43 million Americans lived in dire poverty... Now think, please.

Lastly I must admit I comment from the very safe country of Sweden and if that colors my views, well....

Posted by: Den lille abe | Aug 15 2020 9:20 utc | 141

Paul Craig Roberts has an insightful article about recent events, and their place in the bigger picture.
On his website, dated 14Aug20 and titled "The November Election Is About Race".
Kamala Harris is part of this picture.

Posted by: jc | Aug 15 2020 9:29 utc | 142

Harris is a better VP candidate than Mike Pence. And I find Biden a better Presidential candidate than Trump.

And in the end, you have to choose from among the candidates available and not from your ideal wish list.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Aug 15 2020 10:08 utc | 143

It's simple to understand why: First, Joe Biden getting the nomination. Anybody with two brain cells to rub together KNOWS he wasn't the right choice. They forced the other candidates out before the primaries just like they did Sanders four years ago. Second verse same as the first. Second, there can be no doubt in any thinking person's mind that Kamala wasn't the right pick. She has done at least equal harm to the black community as Joe Biden himself. SO - WHY? - because they have NO plans of having an honest election. They needed their puppets (Joe and Kamala have both proven to be good servants) in place to continue with their destructive policies which ensure their riches, at the peril of Americans. If you hear a popping sound after reading this then you will know you have successfully gotten your head out of your arse. Thank you

Posted by: Trish Schild | Aug 15 2020 10:31 utc | 144

As an european I am appalled by the overtly and obvious racism and racialism in american society.This should not be an example to the rest of the world.

Posted by: willie | Aug 15 2020 10:44 utc | 145

willie | Aug 15 2020 10:44 utc | 145

c'mon willie, there is plenty of racism here on the old continent and most of it quite overt. I remember talking to a brit living in Germany who told me there was no racism where he lived. I asked him how many non whites lived in his village to which he replied "none".

how many of you enlightened europeans are thrilled with the idea of gypsies and Rom moving into your town? most europeans I know hate to some degree muslims and are kinda wary of Hindus and Sikhs too.

but don't feel too bad about it, it is really normal. you find the same thing when you go to predominantly black countries....only the other way around.

tribalism and campanilismo are not new by any means.

Posted by: dan of steele | Aug 15 2020 11:13 utc | 146

I am a bit surprised that no one managed to come up the correct answer lol.

Why Kamala? Because Hillary wants a black female VP, of course.

Posted by: Perimetr | Aug 15 2020 12:01 utc | 147


Copmala no Impala as she
steamrolls the streets
from west coast haunts like Oakland to
Washington DC

Copmala no apola-gize for
innocent men detained
and the media will help her—do you
even know their names?

Copmala make you holla as she
signals with her skin
after Grandpa takes his long sleep
the real work begins

so dolla-up, Copmala, ‘cause
orange man on the loose
and with your tough exterior you’ll
sell a better noose

Posted by: lizard | Aug 15 2020 12:39 utc | 148

@ Perimetr 147

Nope the answer to Why has Biden chosen Kamala Harris is the same old mysogenistic reason.

She has big boobs...

Posted by: Beibdnn | Aug 15 2020 12:49 utc | 149

Sympathy for the Devils...

old, yet fresh as a newly emergent stinkhorn

Posted by: blindpig | Aug 15 2020 12:49 utc | 150

vk@various....the line of succession is not the chain of command. LBJ did not have input into the CIA of the kind required by these "theories" until after he became president. And he was slow changing any of Kennedy's people. Motive, yes, but the means (control over the CIA, influence with some generals, dealings with mafiosi,) sorry, no. And opportunity, namely, the actual documentation of hitherto unknown alliances with Sam Giancana or other random names, none whatsoever. By the way, the notion the October missile crisis was a great victory confuses the PR victory with the view from the Pentagon etc. Insofar as there was a rabid appetite to invade Cuba, the crisis was a defeat, Kennedy did not get Khrushchev's green light. Of course you can "establish" a claim if you turn black into white, revising facts to support the claim.

Some of the murkiness in Oswald's movements may have to do with his being a plant on the Soviets, who ignored Oswald while he was in Russia precisely because they suspected that. And they let him go without demur for the same reason. And he wasn't followed by the FBI etc. for the same reason. Oswald was of course still suspect because he might have been turned. The later murkiness in his movements and associations may have to do with Oswald engaging in clandestine relations with other men. In that context, the alleged shooting at Gen. Edwin Walker is provocative. But all I can really say is your established facts, aren't.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 15 2020 12:52 utc | 151

Every single claim that Harris' selection as VP is about making her the establishment candidate in 2024 re-affirms the idea that Biden was selected as VP for the same kind of reason. Yet most here are convinced the establishment candidate was Buttigieg or Harris or Clinton, not Biden. Most perspectives here are so confused and arbitrary they really need to be re-thought, thoroughly.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 15 2020 12:53 utc | 152

I'm no fan of Kamala Harris, but I think Joe Biden makes the right call in choosing her as his running mate. Let's face it, the two candidates who could inspire small hope for any change were Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard. And since both have been effectively annuled by the corrupt DNC under the direction of Hillary (Crooked) Clinton, every hope of any meaningful change has been lost. But nearly everyone is tired of the clown in the White House. So Joe Biden choosing an ultra conservative Democrat as his running mate gives the ticket some chances of winning. Blacks, and the notoriously conservative East Asians would rally round the ticket. Emotion often beats logic in advertising. And that is what the USA elections are all about. It's a PR show and nothing more.

Posted by: Steve | Aug 15 2020 12:55 utc | 153

ralphieboy @Aug15 10:08 #143

And in the end, you have to choose from among the candidates available and not from your ideal wish list.

Rephrased: I play the rigged game 'cause it's the only game in town!


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 15 2020 13:01 utc | 154


you think "blacks" will rally around this ticket just because Copmala has non-white skin? that is a very ignorant thing to say.

Posted by: lizard | Aug 15 2020 13:02 utc | 155

A lot of 'interesting' theories by (mostly) people who weren't going to vote for Biden regardless of who he selected.
The original posts here are pretty interesting, but the comment section frequently reads like graduates of an insane asylum.

Posted by: Sidney Caesar | Aug 15 2020 13:13 utc | 156

For those here who, as happens to me, may not know who really Kamala Harris is, a semblance I found over there...

Includes a speech from the 2012 campaign where she shows herself quite elocuent indeed, while not resulting arrogant... or divisive at Trump usually does....Also, she has a quite captivating smile, and a lot of light...not an unimportant detail in political communication...I am starting considering she will rock...hence the attacks coming from the Trumpster ranks...

"Yes we Kam".....

Seven keys that describe Kamala Harris, the woman who will make history against Trump

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Aug 15 2020 13:16 utc | 157

Here's what I was talking about earlier:

Chair of Congressional Black Caucus endorses Biden

If memory doesn't fail me, Bernie Sanders was walking into a probable nomination, when, suddenly, Biden was put back from his retirement and, almost immediately, won support of the Black Caucus. The Black Caucus then guaranteed Biden an easy sweep in the Deep South States, burying Sanders' chances of getting the nomination.

I remember commenting here at the time that this episode was ironic, as it was the black community that acted like the decisive reactionary force, stopping the democratic socialists.

It could be that choosing a black woman as veep was part of the negotiations between Biden and the Black Caucus. Hence it had to be a black person. By exclusion, it could've only been Kamala Harris.


@ Posted by: groucho | Aug 15 2020 2:12 utc | 109

It is not surprising Johnson denied until the end of his life. POTUSes of the post-FDR era USA are usually expected to be deified after their deaths (usually, with the creation of a library or a foundation, or both), so Johnson was simply protecting his legacy.

Johson didn't have connections with the mafia. And that's precisely my hypothesis: he killed Kennedy in order to stave off the mafia's ascension within the USG.

But it is certain Castro didn't have anything to do with it. If that's Johnson's final version, then he's certainly lying.

Posted by: vk | Aug 15 2020 13:20 utc | 158

A lesson to be learnt from NYC to Minsk...

''The ultimate purpose of all actions in a political campaign is to bring the voter closer to the candidate. That is the essence of the campaigns.'' Iván Redondo

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Aug 15 2020 13:28 utc | 159

@Posted by: vk | Aug 15 2020 13:20 utc | 158

I think that we must stop considering that a possibility of someone resembling a socialist would win power in the US exist, as we see how the US stablishment has unleashed a whirlpool of regime change operations starting one end of the Mediterranean to the other in its intends of overthrowing anything sounding in the slightest not only at purely ideological sense, but anything sounding as of benefitting people or nation´s sovereignty, and redistributing both wealth and financial burden...

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Aug 15 2020 13:37 utc | 160

It seesm that with Kamala rythm will she dancing at the rythm of batucada
She seems fit....

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Aug 15 2020 14:04 utc | 161

Why Kamala Harris?

Because nobody is loyal to her. If Biden's elected (a big if), she'll be dumped as VP shortly after the election and Hillary Clinton will be appointed in her place. No Democrat will object because shortly after that Biden will resign and Hillary Clinton will become the first female president of the United States.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Aug 14 2020 23:56 utc | 98

I agree with the first sentence. But the implications you get are wrong. What would be the purpose of "dumping Harris"? Lacking loyalists, she would be neutral when political appointments will be made, Goldman Sachs will get positions they care about, ditto MIC, pharma etc. Actually, Harris is valuable because she may be a conduit for fabulously rich donors in Pacific region, balancing their Atlantic friends.

As HRC is concerned, as a public person she is a bit old and has a "baggage". People can achieve some degree of immortality by "soul" transfer, Harris is a better vehicle than most. HRC is ready for a cabinet role.

At this point a more salient question is: what does "interagency consensus" want? The way I see it, HRC and Obama are prime examples of folks who had a stray idea or two when they were younger, but were beaten into proper shape once it was important.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Aug 15 2020 14:06 utc | 162

@Posted by: H.Schmatz | Aug 15 2020 14:04 utc | 161

Is her husband that also dancing at 0:16 footage?

In the article on semblance linked above, it is said they both met at a blind appoitnment...I would bet someone did not go so blindly there...Call me bad thought..if you want...

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Aug 15 2020 14:09 utc | 163

It is realistic to see Biden as incapable of making any significant decision, so I question that implication or assumption.

I also am inclined to dismiss the implicit idea that an "election" in the sense we understand the word, will take place.

When Bush v Gore was "decided" by Supreme Court Andy Rooney called it a Banana Republic election. That 60 minutes skit is something I myself saw. It seems to have been destroyed.

@ Keiser (Keiser Report – Summer Solutions: How Trump stole 2020 (E1580)) Palast also speaks of Banana Republic, and describes just how the "election" is rigged and, inter alia, a 12th amendment election (each State gets one vote...)

I tend to agree that the token female person is being curated for 2024, but would opine that if there is an "election" in 24, it will be as meaningless as the characters it may boost. Essentially I expect that the rates and magnitude of changes will eclipse such plans.

In 2024 there may not be a US, and portions of the land may well be policed by - well there we get perhaps too speculative.

Recall the prediction that the US population in 2025 will be 54 million....

Posted by: Walter | Aug 15 2020 14:50 utc | 164

What world do commenters here live in? Remnants of old mafia were long ago fully integrated into CIA. They never competed, they worked together. And then merged. No competing interests, one family.

Your owners are perfectly happy to watch you speculate endlessly about the supposed Kennedy assasination. All other ‘conspiracy theories’ there is a great deal of pushback. The Kennedy industry goes on and on. So long as you all agree on the central point he was killed they just don’t care what you say.

The reason all the Kennedy pieces will never fit in one box is it didn’t happen. It was a script. The script was weak and needed endless re-write. Kennedy simply retired. Had drug problems, had sex problems, was becoming a liability. But he was one of their own, no need to kill someone inside the circle.

Posted by: oldhippie | Aug 15 2020 14:56 utc | 165

The 54 M prediction > "Deagel Drops US 2025 Population Forecast To 54 Million" just use a decent searchengine... Withal, that alone tends to reduce the entire rodeo to farce.

Posted by: Walter | Aug 15 2020 15:00 utc | 166

Can anyone explain to me why Puppet Cartoon Character selected Puppet Cartoon Female Colored Character as running mate?

"I find nothing that makes her an attractive candidate:"
Posted by b at 17:10 UTC

Why would anyone continue to believe either of the US Regime "parties" have a sliver of decency, legitimacy, honesty or values? Neither Party is capable of anything bordering good decisions, good governance or rational behavior.

Anyone believing a Political Savior (allowed) to be running for the Highest Office will be, sprout, bloom or grow into a decent human is delusional. Delusional = presence of false knowledge.

There are no decent candidates allowed to be elected for office. Were you expecting a better looking hotter dark skinned more "attractive" female candidate? It's all reality t.v. for hopeful tools.

Posted by: CitizenX | Aug 15 2020 15:06 utc | 167

I agree.
While I have never voted for a repug or dim (well one repug in Maui-- the Dims always win and it was spur of he moment)-
the anti Dim makeup of this discussion is revealing.

Reformist politics just keeps the proletariat occupied.
As Emma Goldman pointed out:
"If voting could change anything it would be illegal"

Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Aug 15 2020 15:24 utc | 168

Racial diversity
Young and healthy
Reasonably intelligent and articulate.

What does B not get about American politics.
Seems sometimes people just dont want to know.

I estimate that 50% of Americans live in an area where there is only a single viable party.

Posted by: jared | Aug 15 2020 15:30 utc | 169

Harris may turn out to be a black Hillary Clinton--mean, vindictive, corporatist, militarist and imperialist. As such, she is a perfect fit for Biden, who was the choice of the Democratic Party establishment right from the start. The fact that she is black and female may inspire some people to vote for her despite her obvious flaws, but on the whole, she is not popular and was unable to win a *single* delegate in the Dem Party primaries. If the Republican candidate were anyone but Donald Trump, Biden/Harris would be food for crows and maggots.

Posted by: Rob | Aug 15 2020 15:34 utc | 170

@ Posted by: oldhippie | Aug 15 2020 14:56 utc | 165

The debate around Kennedy's assassination arose on the discussion about the relevance of the Veep in American History. I argued the Veep has significant importance, as it both signals a possible line of succession and because the office itself is very powerful (to the point of one Veep murdering his own POTUS in order to succeed him immediately). It is very possible they (deep state? DNC?) are either planning for Biden's death (natural or not) or grooming Kamala Harris to face off against Nikki Haley (Trump's heir apparent) in 2024.

It is tempting to go for the "CIA did everything without Johnson" hypothesis because it both keeps Johnson's legacy as a "good emperor" intact and because it speaks more closely to the USA of the beginning of the 21st Century. The problem with this hypothesis is that it assumes Johnson really believed Fidel Castro was behind Kennedy's assassination. Sure, he must've been fed the CIA memorandum of the time (that Oswald was a Soviet spy with mental problems and links to the mafia), but then it assumes the POTUSes of the 1960s were kept absolutely in the dark by the CIA - which is a very absurd hypothesis, in my opinion. This hypothesis basically give the CIA godlike powers, rendering American democracy irrelevant since at least Eisenhower. Most likely scenario is Johnson simply used the CIA's memorandum as a plausible deniability device.

It is very farfetched to claim the POTUS doesn't have ultimate authority over the CIA (specially during the 1960s, when the Soviet threat was at its highest, and when the American economy was at its best shape ever). Wanting you or not, fact is the POTUS still has absolute command over the CIA, and the only way the CIA can take down a POTUS even today - literally or politically - is with ample support of the POTUS' amici and cubiculum (the Veep being the most prominent member).

Besides, even Kennedy's wife at the time openly accused organized crime for her husband's murder, so it is very naive to believe Johnson didn't consider his links to the mafia in the equation, thus reducing it merely to "protect Kennedy's legacy". The mafia was a declared enemy of Fidel Castro: either Oswald killed in the name of the mafia, or in the name of Cuba (USSR), but not both.

The mafia hypothesis is also weak, if nothing else for the simple fact that Kennedy's death ended any prospects for a second invasion of Cuba.

Johnson called off the second invasion at April 7th, 1964. Kennedy died at end of November, 1963. The second invasion was scheduled for any moment between March and June, 1964. That means Johnson called off the second invasion with a lot of antecedence, full three months before the deadline. This doesn't seem like a POTUS with doubt in his heart. He was not pressured by the mafia. The mafia was a non-factor in Johnson's governments - be it the 1963-1965 one or the 1965-1968 one. The December-March hiatus can be easily explained by the chaotic circumstances of Kennedy's death, which must've surely took much of the new POTUS' schedule, plus the natural time it takes for an ascended Veep to be briefed.

Whatever your preferred hypothesis, one thing is certain: the official version is false. Either the CIA is good at its job or it isn't - it can't be both at the same time. Oswald had an ample story of Soviet connections: he was the perfect fall guy in the High Cold War if you wanted to blame it on the USSR. If the CIA wanted Kennedy alive, it would've certainly have taken Oswald down much earlier, as it already had all his data. If the mafia wanted Kennedy dead by November 1963, then it is one of history's greatest blunders, as it killed off their only chance to invade Cuba again.

Posted by: vk | Aug 15 2020 15:44 utc | 171

why Joe Biden selected Kamala Harris as running mate?"

I think we must all remember Article II of the US Constitution does not allow any American, no matter its color, age, or religion to vote for either el Presidente or his side kick.. Article II also vests the power of dealing with foreign nations, treaties, military bases in foreign lands and the trillions of government contracts that go with those foreign bases. as well as the appointment of contract supervisors (known as Diplomats) solely, absolutely and completely to the home office operating out of the white house located in DC. (many wonder how the president can have his office in his home, the zoning laws in DC don't allow offices in ones home).

Anyway, I think K Harris was picked to make more flush those foreign contracts handed out by the Senior crook appointed to the White house.

I think too Harris does just find <=as a pot stirrer in the States, as is evidenced by the confused comments at B's bar today.. controlled planned, and schedule chaos is essential to regime change and the Harris appointment clearly adds to the domestic confusion.

Posted by: snake | Aug 15 2020 15:54 utc | 172

@ vk > While the VP is, as you say, important (for example Truman v Wallace seems to have been critical in the establishment of the cold war and the plans to nuke USSR), I am quite sure that you are generally misinformed with respect to the Kennedy affair. The topic is far too complex for this venue. Just for starters, eye witness say Johnson knew in advance, and there is zero doubt that the FBI was intimate with the Mafia, Hoover himself was their guest every year.

If you knew more about it you'd see it more clearly. I'll just leave it at that.

Best to you, I do not mean even the slightest personal criticism.

Withal, as everyone can see, I regard the present as farce and the so-called democracy as a con game to create a passive consent to looting and abuse - with the expectation that the "election" cannot matter.

With the Kennedy hit "they" crossed the Rubicon and manifestly opened the road to the ruin of the State, which, of course, is obvious between the characters proffered as "choice", as well as the grossly illegal behaviors of that State, and of course the sea of poor.

Posted by: Walter | Aug 15 2020 16:04 utc | 173

one can sense the cynicism and mistrust on the usa election process here at moa very quickly... i am wondering if this cynicism, mistrust and even hostility is also shared in the much wider communities in the usa?? my impression here in canada is there is more trust or confidence in the system.. i see it much the same here in canada, but if i was to talk to people in my family or people i know - many would be fairly trusting of the political once every 4 year thing for the most part... in the usa is it really being felt across the board a huge level of cynicism and mistrust of the basic every 4 year democratic process?? it looks like it..

Posted by: james | Aug 15 2020 16:05 utc | 174

Here's Kim Iverson's take on why Biden/KH

"It's a way to get 12 years of neo-liberal Democratic establishment policies - yoohoo."

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 15 2020 16:06 utc | 175

Why Has Joe Biden Chosen Kamala Harris

well, i suppose with a decrepit career politician like Joe Biden, balancing the ticket makes sense(yes, after all that's just another insiders game). i mean, they gotta juice a semblance of equity and harmony, honesty and rectitude from somewhere, no? and there's the rub...with politicians any kind of balancing act's gonna directly defy the first principle of morality, which of course inevitably leads to precisely where we are now, i.e. mired in bankruptcy and dysfunction, an advanced state of collapse, with a bunch of sociopathic twits at the helm.

Posted by: john | Aug 15 2020 16:06 utc | 176

Posted by: jared | Aug 15 2020 15:30 utc | 169

"What does B not get about American politics."
b is definitely smarter than you! And you’re clueless if you disagree please FO!

"Racial diversity" has you forgotten Obama, the first black president and Nobel Peace Prize Laureate, turn out being a murder and war monger. Obama Has deported more Hispanic than past president and even caged children separated from their parent. His Secretary of States Hillary starts another regime changed and murdered Libya’s Muammar Gaddafi. Have you look today what going on in Libya today? And Hillary laughed when told Muammar was murdered

Reasonable intelligent and articlutate... yes, extremely intelligent so much so in her debates with Tulsi Gabbard, she was slaughtered quit the presidential race - her polls number never recovered from less than 2%. She is evils and incarcerated more black and Hispanic than past AG in California.

"Seems sometimes people just don’t want to know" but rather, too stoopid to understand. Just to be sure I'm not Trump lover but Trump will win with people like you!

Posted by: JC | Aug 15 2020 16:49 utc | 177

Kamala Harris will expunge all of the "incompetent, unqualified, corrupt" judges appointed by Trump. There are over 200 of them. Once the Maxwell saga begins to unravel, the Democratic Party needs "dependable" judges to deal with accusations that have already reached the Clintons, some lawyers (Dershowitz himself included) and basically the whole deep state and, yes, the Wall Street. Also, her "top cop" reputation will help put the BLM genie back into the bottle as the protesters are getting too close to the nice houses owned by the Democrats themselves and are wrecking Democrat-run cities. Check this

Posted by: Jonathan W | Aug 15 2020 16:55 utc | 178

@Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Aug 15 2020 15:24 utc | 168
Many comments here seem to be from people somewhat ignorant of the binary nature of the American political system (and/or comfortably unaffected by it) and the constraints that places on voters. While it's true that on one level there's only one party in the United States- The Business Party- digging just a little further reveals other 'truths' about American politics, i.e. Nader's "dimes worth of difference" between the Democrats and Republicans amounts to 'dollars worth of difference' when you consider the actual effect on real people's lives with respect to judicial appointments, voting rights, the environment, labor rights, education, support for Social Security and Medicare, etc. To illustrate the difference, you really need look no further than the ongoing battle over the extension of supplemental unemployment insurance for the millions of unemployed (as a result of the Trump administration mismanagement of the pandemic), i.e. Trump and the Republican Senate against unemployment benefits, & the Democratic House for. Not to mention that one faction of The Business Party has grown increasingly batshit crazy, openly embracing the tenets of white supremacy & end-times Christianism while becoming equally openly anti-science (with respect to climate change, evolution, pandemic management, etc), anti-'cultural Marxism' (which to them really seems to mean civil liberties for LGBT people), etc.
I'm not particularly surprised to see that ignorance echoed in the comment section here, given (what seems to me) to be an odd mix of non-Americans, conspiracy zealots, BernieBros, etc.
With respect to Goldman's quote, not one her brighter moments, and quite the elitist insult to American citizens who are only permitted to vote as a result of legislation (by elected representatives) in the 1960's.

Posted by: Sidney Caesar | Aug 15 2020 16:56 utc | 179

Posted by: Rob | Aug 15 2020 15:34 utc | 170

She will be even more vindictive, corporatist, militarist and imperialist than Hillary.
Good for you we think alike.. I'll keep repeating, I'm no Trump lover but will never vote for him now or ever. I voted for Dr. Jill Stein in 2016 and will skip the president vote.

"If the Republican candidate were anyone but Donald Trump, Biden/Harris would be food for crows and maggots."
Wrong both are "food for crows and maggots, now"

Posted by: JC | Aug 15 2020 17:01 utc | 180

The sarcastic response is No. 6- She will allow him to touch her when he needs to show "compassion".

Of course, the reasons are multiple. The Dems are the frontline troops agains the Left, and have always been since Roosevelt. The donor money is from the established criminal capitalist order, and must be obeyed. The system is so entrenched with corruption it cannot be amended, reformed, or endangered in any way.

It is too bad Dems cannot come out for slavery as they did in the 1800s. It is their honest policy position, but their reputation with the stupider parts of racial and sexual identifiers (read "the liberal elite") would lose them the moderate Republican voters they now represent. A torch, a torch, my kingdom for a torch!

Posted by: proworks2013 | Aug 15 2020 17:04 utc | 181

The Dems have already agreed to loose.

Posted by: Johny Conspiranoid | Aug 15 2020 17:06 utc | 182

My take:

1)Biden chose Kamala mainly because he has known her for years as a family friend because she worked together with his beloved son, who passed away. Obviously Biden thinks highly of his son and is subconsciously running for his son to a certain extent, so if his son thought Kamala was capable and trustworthy, he would give great weight to that.

This is going to be a big fight for Biden and he wants somebody he trusts as his backup. He has already said he will get a black woman to pay back his black support, and that's how he thinks many will see Kamala.

Thus all the ineffectual attempts to say that Kamala is not black, she is actually Jamaican, or India(SouthAsian). This won't work, IMO.

2)Kamala appears to have that ruthless attack-dog quality Biden thinks is needed to take on Trump, maybe he thinks the others do not have it as much as her. Biden will be looking for qualities that he lacks to complement his two-man team, and Kamala brings those hyper-vicious, ruthless attack-dog qualities he lacks. So much that Trump immediately calls her "nasty" and one can easily see that Kamala is the last candidate he would have wanted Biden to pick.

3)Kamala would have little chance by herself, but together with the kind, warm and empathy-laden Biden, her attack-dog qualities will smash back any Trump attack on the duo, and her attacks on Trump will be vicious, malignant, painful and effective.

4)Kamala doesn't seem to bring any radical changes to Biden's positions and plans for the economy. As we all know, she is friendly to BigTech and won't push for Warren-style wealth and asset taxes.

She isn't radical or socialist enough to drive away those moderates and republicans(conservatives) who may be migrating to Biden's camp after being disillusioned by Trump's incompetence and corruption.

We can argue that as former CA. AG she will be tough on crime(or over-tough as Tulsi pointed out), but at the same time we can say that she supports BLM. So she will get some law & order voters, but also some BLM voters. She can win both ways.

5)Thus, when we look at the choice from Biden's point of view, it's easy to guess why he chose her.

Posted by: GreatSocialist | Aug 15 2020 17:12 utc | 183

Posted by: GreatSocialist | Aug 15 2020 17:12 utc | 183
Good analysis.

Posted by: Sidney Caesar | Aug 15 2020 17:20 utc | 184

"Why did Biden pick Kamala Harris?"

I heard on NPR this morning that in two days after her selection, she had received 50 million in contributions. Follow the money!

(I only listen to the early morning babble on NPR because some of the stuff said is so blatantly propaganda that it gets me leaping out of bed immediately.)

Don't forget, you don't have to vote for either of the two parties because you have the write in option. In all certainty, I could not vote for Biden or Trump, so Tulsi gets my write-in.

Remember, if voting meant anything, they wouldn't let us do it (paraphrasing Mark Twain.)

Posted by: naiverealist | Aug 15 2020 17:30 utc | 185

"Kamala means "horrible, terrible" in Finnish."

This is a terrible personal attack. In case you did not know, she is part EastIndian

Posted by: a fan | Aug 15 2020 17:35 utc | 186

"I only listen to the early morning babble on NPR because some of the stuff said is so blatantly propaganda that it gets me leaping out of bed immediately" = 'I can't turn it off, but I can't admit it'
"In all certainty, I could not vote for Biden or Trump" = 'I'm so precious'

Posted by: Sidney Caesar | Aug 15 2020 17:37 utc | 187

Maybe, b, it is is the wrong question, and one should ask:

Why did Harris choose Biden? .... :)

Imho, amongst the candidates in the primaries Harris was very ‘in’, typical of a Dem Top-Group choice, a favored person. Harris tanked in the primaries, abysmal, in her home State to boot (deservedly so) and it was therefore impossible to hoist her to the top spot in the ‘regular’ way.

So Biden is booted in, ‘takes on a senior role’ anointed with the label ‘consensual candidate’- and poof! a magic puff, all the other candidates quit or somehow vanish into murky twilight zones (Idk if this was OK under Dem Party rules, but hey, nobody cares anymore.)

After some ‘seeming’ hesitation Harris is nominated for the VP slot and, there you go, if the Dems win, Biden will be a figure-head, then he .. falls ill/retires/dies/ whatever, and Kamaleon is Prez.

Harris was the intended candidate from the start, say. Why Biden? Well, VP under Obama is a + point. (Obama => Dem success, glory.) Known, has a background, established figure, etc. MSM can pontificate.

Who else could be suitable and agree to occupy such a place-holder role? A nobody, a newbie, a Clinton, a NY Mayor, are out. (Michelle Obama refused.) So Harris (aka, or in conjuction with, the top-dog Dems who chose her), participated in, or went along with, the choice of Biden as a place holder.

Conspi and fanci (fanciful) sure, but these are the kinds of machinations US citizens are subject to, this scenario is just one version.

Harris, as compared to the other Dem primary candidates, Warren, Sanders, Buttig, and Yang (others i forget) is the only one who has proved herself to be cruel, spiteful, arrogant, and murderous —towards crims, prisoners, mostly blacks btw, etc. She also has quite the portfolio of investments in Big Corps etc. She is also the only one to be publically trangressive (re. affairs .. ) Being gay in a stable relationship doesn’t count.

see also: David G. 22, Josh 37 / 38, Russel 42 (competition with AOC etc) is another good point, annie 96. Others for sure but I couldn’t read it all.

Posted by: Noirette | Aug 15 2020 17:43 utc | 188

Vk@ 165

You keep making the same mistake. Basic analytical error. You want the mafia in one corner, the CIA in another corner, politicians over there and bankers in the big chair. No. It is all one team. They all play together. Sometimes there are situations or roles where a mafioso in a black hat will make a better show. But they all play together.

You can call it the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie if you wish and not be wrong. I call it the old families. They all know each other. Sure there are family rivalries but they all want the same basic thing and they do not kill each other. They are extremely clubby. Worst thing that could happen is being thrown out of the club. Horrors. But the next generation will be allowed back in. No killing. Even for mere operatives, CIA agents and field hands, it would be terrible for morale if anyone ever got killed. If Johnson broke the rules, if he could have found a hundred minions to break rules and do his bidding, and actually killed a Fitzgerald and a Kennedy he would have been gone in seconds.

Posted by: oldhippie | Aug 15 2020 17:48 utc | 189

The reason we have elections at all is because it is cheaper for the oligarchy than a full blown police state.

With that said, maintaining "The Democracy Show©" has been getting more and more expensive with each new episode. I am wondering when the cost-benefit analysis will go negative?

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 15 2020 17:55 utc | 190

As for Wall Street and its connections to Epstein via Maxwell and the apparent need to purge the judiciary with the help of Kamala Harris, I just noticed this

Posted by: Jonathan W | Aug 15 2020 17:55 utc | 191

@ Posted by: oldhippie | Aug 15 2020 17:48 utc | 189; @ Posted by: Walter | Aug 15 2020 16:04 utc | 173

I think you two are mixing two separate plots:

1) Oswald's one (which killed Kennedy); officially a lone wolf terrorist attack. No evidence of the true plot (not surprising, as the evidence, if it ever existed, was certainly destroyed immediately);

2) Oswald's assassination, the more well documented plot, which we know for certain was carried on with an alliance between the FBI, the CIA, Texas' oilmen, the mafia and Johnson himself (as the highest Executive authority).

The "fusion" between the FBI, the mafia and the CIA you refer to are relative to the second plot. Johnson (apud Haig, 1992) later claimed he hid this second plot because he wanted to protect Kennedy's dignity (his links with the mafia).

The first plot is the one that's mysterious. The only certainty is that the official version is false: Oswald certainly didn't act alone. The official version is simply intellectually dishonest: Oswald is pictured as, at the same time: 1) pro-USSR; 2) pro-Castro; 3) pro-mafia; 4) with mental issues and 5) as capable of acting under the CIA's radar. One doesn't need to evoke the CIA's "lost in the bureaucratic paperwork" excuse stenographed via Jane Meyer's book "Dark Money" to realize this is just bad plausible deniability. Oswald is practically canonized to Deus ex Machina status here, a character worthy of the most over-the-top Shakespearean dramas.

Posted by: vk | Aug 15 2020 18:00 utc | 192


McCain used Palin in a Hail Mary move.

This is not a Hail Mary.

But my guess is that Kamala vs. Pence will aim to convince voters how old, backwards, and out-of-touch the Trump ticket is.

The thing is: we don't even know if the VP pick matters to the electorate anymore. I don't think it does and, in fact, only is capable of mattering if POTUS checks out of his job due to "health" reasons.

Will voters be duped? At bottom, the race is still about Pro-China (& Big-Tech) and Anti-China, but the Dems are still hitching their wagon to how blacks might vote.

Did you know that Kamala's brother-in-law (?) Is CLO of Uber? Kamala screams technocrat and Pro-China (anti-labor).

I don't think the votes that matter will buy it. Trump (still) in a landslide.

They are still as dumb as 2016.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 15 2020 18:01 utc | 193

Maybe it's the wrong question, one should ask:

Why did Harris choose Biden? .......... :)

Imho, amongst the candidates in the primaries Harris was very ‘in’, typical of a Dem Top-Group choice, a favored person. Harris tanked in the primaries, abysmal, in her home State to boot (deservedly so) and it was therefore impossible to hoist her to the top spot in the ‘regular’ way.

So Biden is booted in, ‘takes on a senior role’ anointed with the label ‘consensual candidate’- and poof! a magic puff, all the other candidates quit or somehow vanish into murky twilight zones (Idk if this was OK under Dem Party rules, but hey, nobody cares anymore.)

After some ‘seeming’ hesitation Harris is nominated for the VP slot and, there you go, if the Dems win, Biden will be a figure-head, then he .. falls ill/retires/dies/ whatever, and Kamaleon is Prez.

Harris was the intended candidate from the start, say. Why Biden? Well, VP under Obama is a + point. (Obama => Dem success, glory.) Known, has a background, established figure, etc. MSM can pontificate.

Who else could be suitable and agree to occupy such a place-holder role? A nobody, a newbie, a Clinton, a NY Mayor, are out. (Michelle Obama refused.) So Harris (aka, or in conjuction with, the top-dog Dems who chose her), result, Biden to be the place holder.

Conspi and fanci (fanciful) sure, but these are the kinds of machinations US citizens are subject to, this scenario is just one version.

Harris, as compared to the other Dem primary candidates, Warren, Sanders, Buttig, and Yang (others i forget) is the only one who has proved herself to be cruel, spiteful, arrogant, and murderous —towards crims, prisoners, mostly blacks btw, etc. She also has quite the portfolio of investments in Big Corps etc. She is also the only one to be publically trangressive (re. affairs .. ) Being gay in a stable relationship doesn’t count.

see also: David G. 22, Josh 37 / 38, Russel 42 (competition with AOC etc) is another good point, annie 96. Others for sure but I couldn’t read it all.

Posted by: Noirette | Aug 15 2020 18:02 utc | 194

Posted by: Jonathan W | Aug 15 2020 17:55 utc | 191
That looks to be an interesting site (that I'd never seen before)- it's already bookmarked with the expectation it will become a daily read. Thanks for the link.

Posted by: Sidney Caesar | Aug 15 2020 18:03 utc | 195

@193 addendum

One can see how Big-Tech is an absolutely essential apparatus to harness and effectively use a controlled-opposition to stifle any legitimate threat.

From this you can see how Dems were able to steer and control the "Race" protests in the last few months and, seeing as how they are offering diminishing returns, are putting the Kibosh on them, even though handfuls of true believers are still out there spraying ACAB and dicks all over local precincts.

It can be a lightbulb moment when you realize how important Tech companies are to our future enslavement and how this feeds into the theory of Dems espousing an open-border, globalized world order where anational elites can fuck us every which way from Sunday and when we take the pitchforks to them, we draw air and the whiff of rosy-farts.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 15 2020 18:11 utc | 196

Well, Harris certainly has the black vote in CA locked up.

Posted by: Shadow | Aug 15 2020 18:14 utc | 197

@ 193 addendum

My other guess pertaining to November is that Trump will vastly increase his votes from liberal strongholds, and he may even flip one or two "always-blue." I'm thinking maybe Oregon.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 15 2020 18:17 utc | 198

@james #105
Don't listen to idiots who don't know what they're talking about.
Everyone in China is getting richer, and have been for 3+ decades.
Even the shittiest villages in the boonies are benefiting from the overall infrastructure improvements which China has been spending on, hand over fist.
It is absolutely true that inequality is increasing exponentially, but that doesn't automatically mean that the average, median or overall standard of living isn't also improving - unlike say, the US where all of these measures are declining with a comparable inequality increase.

Posted by: c1ue | Aug 15 2020 18:26 utc | 199

"I'm thinking maybe Oregon."
Pick as many "always-blue" states (Oregon, Washington, California, NY, Vermont, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Maryland, Minnesota, Rhode Island) as you wish- I'll donate $500 to MoA for each one of them voting for Trump (or whichever Republican ends up running), against $100 you donate for each one that doesn't.

Posted by: Sidney Caesar | Aug 15 2020 18:31 utc | 200

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