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August 19, 2020
Open Thread 2020-66
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A rather interesting dissection of a Boeing AoA (Angle of Attack) sensor, in light of the Boeing 737 MAX accidents. Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 19 2020 18:51 utc | 1 As the clown show Democratic convention is going on lets look back at how a zombie corpse named Joe Biden actually was chosen to run the most powerful nation in history: How progressives were conned into supporting Joe Biden for President Posted by: Kali | Aug 19 2020 18:55 utc | 2 Via Xymphora today… Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 19 2020 19:24 utc | 3 Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 19 2020 18:51 utc | Posted by: JC | Aug 19 2020 19:35 utc | 4 S. BACH: WTC, B.I: Prelude and Fugue in E flat minor No.8, BWV 853. Sviatoslav Richter! mood for the times… Posted by: james | Aug 19 2020 19:40 utc | 5 I wonder if the present gun and ammo panic – which seems unprecedented even compared to the Obama era gun confiscation fear – is a better indicator of what people really think. Posted by: c1ue | Aug 19 2020 19:44 utc | 6 @ blues…… jasmine tea is mostly green tea… if they are out of green tea, get the jasmine.. it will do the same thing for you… Posted by: james | Aug 19 2020 19:51 utc | 7 Hoarsewhisperer 3 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2020 19:56 utc | 8 @kali 2 Posted by: Daniel | Aug 19 2020 19:58 utc | 9 @Hoarsewhisperer, #3
More lies and ultra-hypocrisy from tamed international agencies and bureaus. Nothing new. COVID-19 vaccines Posted by: JC | Aug 19 2020 20:31 utc | 11 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2020 19:56 utc | 8 Posted by: JC | Aug 19 2020 20:39 utc | 12 JC Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2020 21:02 utc | 13 @JC | Aug 19 2020 20:31 utc | 11 Posted by: HossCara | Aug 19 2020 21:06 utc | 14 Why read old essays published 30 years ago? Because they still enlighten. Having stumbled upon H. Bruce Franklin’s website and his vast armada of essays, a few of which I linked on the previous open thread, I continue to copy/paste/search to see what’s online. I wasn’t looking for anything by Asimov, but found this 1976 interview that wasn’t published until 1987, “A Conversation with Isaac Asimov,” where he talks about writers borrowing from each other in a manner that avoids plagiarism and allows one to know what his stance on “intellectual property rights” would be: Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 19 2020 21:24 utc | 16 jc@11 Posted by: Extra | Aug 19 2020 21:32 utc | 17 Released online today: Posted by: the pessimist | Aug 19 2020 21:37 utc | 18 U.S. seizes 4 tankers, 1 million bbls gasoline headed for Venezuela this was the best summary of a story that all/most of you must have already heard about by now https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-08-16/the-u-s-brings-state-sponsored-piracy-into-the-21st-century?srnd=premium Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Aug 19 2020 21:59 utc | 19 @ karlof1 # 16 with the Franklin find and link…wow! Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 19 2020 22:39 utc | 20 If there was any doubt about the events in Belarus they’re gone for me after looking at a picture of Tikhanovskaya with the infamous silk shirt donned destroyer of Lybia by the name of beshel, BHL. Posted by: Paco | Aug 19 2020 22:41 utc | 21 @21 – Wow, Thank you Paco. I am a fan of the writer Michel Houellebecq. There is a book of his correspondence with BHL. “Public Enemies.” Levy came across as the typical champaign socialist. I had no idea how deep it went. Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 19 2020 22:57 utc | 22 Cannot recommend this enough, so I’m posting it here again. It’s related to the previous post (the Democratic Convention one): psychohistorian @20– Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 19 2020 23:36 utc | 24 will the world ignore that Israel did it in Lebanon? Posted by: snake | Aug 19 2020 23:39 utc | 25 The Senate Subcommittee on Intelligence has asserted as established fact that Manafort’s long-time business partner in Ukraine, Konstantin Klimink, is and has always been a “Russian intelligence officer.” The evidence for this assertion is almost entirely redacted. While this has led to renewed theorizing of malign collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, the notion of a serious security breach and intelligence failure has been entirely muted. Posted by: jayc | Aug 20 2020 0:05 utc | 26 A blurb I discovered about the book discussed @24: Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 20 2020 0:21 utc | 27 James @ 5: Posted by: Jen | Aug 20 2020 0:25 utc | 28 JC @ 11: Posted by: Jen | Aug 20 2020 0:55 utc | 29 Posted by: c1ue | Aug 19 2020 19:44 utc | 6 Especially given what is stoking this appears to be riot-induced panic as opposed to Democrat-induced legislative threat. Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Aug 20 2020 1:05 utc | 30 @ Jen | Aug 20 2020 0:25 utc | 28.. thanks jen… she has her mind set on the brass ring – pm job – and she has all the right connections – george soros and etc. – to get the gig… it is really quite pathetic, but canucks are easily duped it seems… i am not sure how many have held the finance minsiter position before becoming pm… paul martin was one of them… Posted by: james | Aug 20 2020 1:08 utc | 31 A world war would be a disaster for everybody. The Chinese leaders are intelligent enough to see that. If the U.S. government were to approach the Chinese offering a deal whereby, in return for recognizing China as the predominant power, the U.S. would be offered a soft landing, with the dollar losing its value slowly, over a period of decades, I think the Chinese leaders would see the advantage of accepting the offer. Posted by: lysias | Aug 20 2020 1:28 utc | 32 donkeytale, King Lear Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 20 2020 1:39 utc | 33 Jen @28, James @31, Posted by: Canadian Cents | Aug 20 2020 1:44 utc | 34 @ Canadian Cents #1 Posted by: Antonym | Aug 20 2020 2:02 utc | 35 Mad King/Donkey is the empires beasts of burden…he doesn’t worry about the world controlled by a single-power structure because he is a NeoCon employed by the single-power structure. Posted by: O | Aug 20 2020 2:32 utc | 36 donkeytale @Aug20 2:08 #38:
No. We involved in a new Cold War for a reason. The “frenemy” nature of of relations between US and China has given way to deep antagonism as Western power-elite confront China’s unwillingness to be assimilated as a vassal of the Empire. Instead, China’s powerful economy and her alliance with Russia, Pakistan, Iran and other countries mean that the Empire faces a peer competitor for the first time ever. Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 20 2020 2:48 utc | 37 Regarding Freeland’s latest promotion, she’s now the heir apparent for Trudeau within the (neo)Liberal Party and there is no one within the party currently that could realistically challenge her when she makes her move to take over leadership from Trudeau in 2-3 years (assuming Trudeau doesn’t have any more corruption scandals come out and I suspect there are plenty more to come). That having been said, since the Finance Minister is generally considered the heir apparent posting for a future party leader (more so than even the post of deputy PM, which Freeland already holds), tensions often develop between the current PM and the Finance Minister if the PM is felt to be holding back the successor which has led to internal civil wars in the past within the Liberal party (The infighting between Jean Chretien and Paul Martin devastated senior Liberal Party leadership and while Paul Martin did eventually force Chretien out and become PM, it also crippled the Liberal Party and resulted in almost 10 years of Conservative rule under Steven Harper). Posted by: Kadath | Aug 20 2020 4:13 utc | 38 The 737 Max series here is some of the best journalism I have ever seen. Posted by: Rutherford82 | Aug 20 2020 4:14 utc | 39 Over 100,000 Chinese Evacuated As Floods Continue Pressuring Three Gorges Dam Posted by: JC | Aug 20 2020 4:16 utc | 40 Posted by: Rutherford82 | Aug 20 2020 4:14 utc | 42 Posted by: JC | Aug 20 2020 4:27 utc | 41 @karlof1 | Aug 19 2020 21:24 utc | 16
Yes, the creativity of those SF authors really shine, they were my favourites in the 1970’s. Today’s authoritarian politicians are the total opposites, they are brainless zombies apart from their urge to be totalitarian slave masters. Due to their lack of imagination, they use the SF books as user manuals. Right now they are deep into 1984. Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 20 2020 4:55 utc | 42 @ JC 44 Posted by: Rutherford82 | Aug 20 2020 5:05 utc | 43 Pressure keeps on getting higher, now the “blogger” Navalny -same definition goes for Tikhanovskaya- lays in hospital after a regular flight forced landing in Tomsk, his press secretary claims he has been poisoned, so we’ll hear about polonium and all that jazz. Posted by: Paco | Aug 20 2020 5:10 utc | 44 Former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith pleaded guilty Wednesday in federal court to making a false statement in the first criminal case arising from U.S. Attorney John Durham’s review of the investigation into links between Russia and the 2016 Trump campaign. Posted by: Mao | Aug 20 2020 5:11 utc | 45 @vk | Aug 19 2020 23:04 utc | 23
Well, that is not unique to the “democrats. I am sure you remember the Project For a New American Century consisting of a bunch of lunatic “republican” war mongers who “predicted” and actually carried through 911 (compare it to the recent events in Beirut), started the Afghanistan war (still ongoing), the Iraq war (still ongoing). Then the “democrats” carried on with the war on Libya (still ongoing) and the War on Syria (still ongoing). I probably forgot a few wars. Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 20 2020 5:12 utc | 46 Benedict Cumberbatch ”Broken News” (TV series) (2005) as Will Parker Posted by: Mao | Aug 20 2020 5:18 utc | 47 There aren’t enough inmates to fight Californian forest fires. Posted by: J W | Aug 20 2020 5:23 utc | 48 Posted by: Rutherford82 | Aug 20 2020 5:05 utc Posted by: JC | Aug 20 2020 5:35 utc | 49 The Washington Post Posted by: Mao | Aug 20 2020 5:41 utc | 50 COVID-19 Factoids August 20, 2020. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 20 2020 5:54 utc | 51 @JC 52 Posted by: Rutherford82 | Aug 20 2020 6:02 utc | 52 @ J W # 51 who wrote in regard to fighting California fires Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 20 2020 6:06 utc | 53 Posted by: J W | Aug 20 2020 5:23 utc | 51 Posted by: JC | Aug 20 2020 6:24 utc | 54 Posted by: Rutherford82 | Aug 20 2020 6:02 utc | 55 Posted by: JC | Aug 20 2020 6:52 utc | 55 Covid19? Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 20 2020 8:17 utc | 56 @53 The important thing is that, according to Poroshenko, Shokin had done nothing wrong. The argument that various Western states wanted him gone because he was “soft on corruption” is therefore false. Posted by: Cherrycoke | Aug 20 2020 9:07 utc | 57 American Christian fundamentalists are driving giraffes to extinction: @JC | Aug 19 2020 20:31 utc | 11 Posted by: Leser | Aug 20 2020 12:01 utc | 59 A: “You know, Junior, there used to be these animals we called ‘giraffes’ that had really long legs and necks. They could look in the second floor window of a house. And there were these animals called ‘elephants’ that had long noses they could use like a hand. There also used to be these great big cats called ‘lions’ and other ones called ‘tigers’ that could eat you as a snack.” Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 20 2020 12:04 utc | 60 Looks like the Chinese agree with me @23: Cuba will begin trials with its COVID-19 vaccine candidate (FINLAY-FR-1): @Peter AU1 | Aug 20 2020 8:17 utc | 59 Posted by: Leser | Aug 20 2020 12:24 utc | 63 Dan Cohen @dancohen3000 Posted by: Mao | Aug 20 2020 12:25 utc | 64 Carl Zha @CarlZha Posted by: Mao | Aug 20 2020 12:29 utc | 65 David Pinsen @dpinsen Posted by: Mao | Aug 20 2020 12:31 utc | 66 Once again we are treated to the seedy spectacle of the Brock-bot ‘king donkey rear.org’ trying to “Correct the Record” by talking to itself in a decidedly masturbatory fashion. Once you overcome your revulsion for that crass display, though, you may find it funny in a silly sort of way. Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 20 2020 12:34 utc | 67 France and Germany to decide the EU’s foreign policy for the next decade in a medieval island fortress in the Mediterranean: Viva La Rozistance @PolitiKurd Posted by: Mao | Aug 20 2020 12:42 utc | 69 If as suggested in #36 above Chrystia Freeland is the organizer of The Random Guy-do coup there is nothing to worry about. Nothing but random delusions and massive incompetence in store. Posted by: oldhippie | Aug 20 2020 12:52 utc | 70 I can no longer access your site without “click on all the crosswalks” etc. This is because someone is attempting to deny me privacy rights by putting up this barrier each time I try to access your site. Very sad and I hope paradoxical on the site’s part but I have no time for this. I don’t have any exceptions for challenging my anonymity. It is the fascist side, I believe, who encourages the specious argument that persons have not the right nor expectation of privacy. Posted by: Lawrence | Aug 20 2020 12:59 utc | 71 Navalny poisoned, the CIA says. Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 20 2020 13:17 utc | 72 karlof1 | Aug 19 2020 21:24 utc | 16 Posted by: vinnieoh | Aug 20 2020 13:21 utc | 73 karlof – to continue: one of my most prized books is a tome produced by Isaac Asimov – A Biographical Encyclopedia of Science and Technology. It begins with Zeno and travels all the way to the time of publication which was probably 30yrs or so ago. Can’t be more specific, as all my library is boxed up while we did some major rebuilding here. Abundantly cross-reference throughout so as to let the reader understand the thread of cross-pollination, so to speak, of ideas. Posted by: vinnieoh | Aug 20 2020 13:29 utc | 74 Roberto Jefferson petitions to Trump to intervene in Brazil: The deal seems odd. Maybe somebody “loaned” Enter Air the money for the planes, or perhaps you are correct and it is simple coercion. Posted by: Piotr Berman | Aug 20 2020 13:37 utc | 76 we moved the capital of Israel to Jerusalem. That’s for the Evangelicals. Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Aug 20 2020 13:39 utc | 77 There are several articles about the US’s possible sale of F-35s to the UAE. but YNET suggests that the sale is part of the Israel-UAE agreement which makes sense given UAE’s repeated requests for arms sales from the US and would fit nicely into the peace plan that Trump was touting earlier this year – supported by Qatar, interestingly. Posted by: AtaBrit | Aug 20 2020 13:50 utc | 78 Former second lady Jill Biden said Wednesday that President Donald Trump’s attacks against her husband and his cognitive abilities are “ridiculous.” Posted by: Mao | Aug 20 2020 14:29 utc | 79 Benny @bennyjohnson Posted by: Mao | Aug 20 2020 14:35 utc | 80 1987 map of The World According to Ronald Reagan Posted by: Mao | Aug 20 2020 15:18 utc | 81 @Mao 84 Posted by: Rutherford82 | Aug 20 2020 15:24 utc | 82 Many countries in Europe now including Greece and Croatia are seeing an increase in Covid cases. France, Spain, Luxembourg and Germany are witnessing a significant rise in cases. Posted by: Circe | Aug 20 2020 15:43 utc | 83 During an MSNBC interview Wednesday, a former chief of staff at the Department of Homeland Security revealed a request he said he heard from President Donald Trump. He actually said … could we swap Puerto Rico for Greenland because, in his words, Puerto Rico was ‘dirty’ and ‘the people were poor,'” former DHS chief of staff Miles Taylor told MSNBC’s Hallie Jackson. Taylor said Trump made the offensive comments ahead of a 2018 trip to Puerto Rico for hurricane relief. The former official added Trump expressed “deep animus for the Puerto Rican people behind the scenes” and that he did not believe Trump was joking. Posted by: Mao | Aug 20 2020 15:53 utc | 84 //following on from the cringefest// 🙂 Posted by: Noirette | Aug 20 2020 16:45 utc | 85 Mao @Aug20 12:31 #66, Christian J. Chuba @Aug20 13:39 #77
This is just Trump pretending that he’s a USA populist instead of a craven Zionist insider.
Only the most pathetic willing idiots have not yet seen through the “populist” scam that Trump and Obama personify. Unfortunately, there’s a lot of those. Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 20 2020 16:48 utc | 86 In response to karlof1 | Aug 19 2020 23:36 utc | 24
This reminds me of Manny DeLanda, who I knew in the early 90s. He was writing a book titled War In The Age Of Intelligent Machines and he described it to me as a history of technology from the perspective of the technology itself as an evolving entity, with its own needs and desires.
Seems like a pertinent addition to this thread. Posted by: jonku | Aug 20 2020 17:03 utc | 87 @ karlof1 et al Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Aug 20 2020 17:24 utc | 88 Only the most pathetic willing idiots (Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 20 2020 16:48 utc | 86) … form the most valuable in marketing. Selling good quality for a good price leaves scant room for profit margins. The opposite can be said about selling dreams. Like the sods that pass the money to Bannon and friends to build the Great Wall of Mexico, what dreamers they were! Showing kids a wall brick with their name.. Posted by: Piotr Berman | Aug 20 2020 17:38 utc | 89 Julian Assange’s partner has started a fund to help Julian. Posted by: arby | Aug 20 2020 17:39 utc | 90 Posted by: arby | Aug 20 2020 17:39 utc | 90 Posted by: O | Aug 20 2020 17:58 utc | 91 O, Posted by: arby | Aug 20 2020 18:05 utc | 92 It is quite interesting to follow soccer news these days. They find about 5-10 cases per day of players testing positive. This has been going on for months. None of them died. Posted by: Mina | Aug 20 2020 18:13 utc | 93 A French journalist and an idiot, describing on the radio his return to China where he is a foreign correspondent for a major Fr media, is making fun of the quarantine rules imposed on him now that Foreign residents are allowed to return. Locked in a hotel room for the next 13 days, he cannot understand why families are separated in different rooms (men in a room, women and kids in a separate room). Obviously he thinks that all these people must have been living together 24 hours a day before they rode the plane and has no clue about the complexity of incubation processes. Posted by: Mina | Aug 20 2020 18:22 utc | 94 Posted by: King Lear | Aug 20 2020 18:25 utc | 95 Posted by: O | Aug 20 2020 18:50 utc | 95 “The U.S. imperialists are very arrogant; if at all possible, they always refuse to talk reason, and will do so after a fashion only when driven into a tight corner. ” Posted by: arby | Aug 20 2020 19:01 utc | 96 JERUSALEM, Oct. 25 (Xinhua) — Chinese Vice President Wang Qishan wrapped up a fruitful visit to Israel on Thursday with a reaffirmed commitment from both sides to further boosting bilateral innovation cooperation for mutual benefits. Posted by: O | Aug 20 2020 19:08 utc | 97 @Posted by: JC | Aug 20 2020 6:24 utc | 54 Posted by: H.Schmatz | Aug 20 2020 19:17 utc | 98 @Posted by: Paco | Aug 19 2020 22:41 utc | 21 Posted by: H.Schmatz | Aug 20 2020 19:43 utc | 99 Thanks for the many replies to my numerous comments about Franklin’s writings. Those having the time and interest I highly suggest reading the Introduction and first chapter of War Stars, which can be done freely at the link I provided @27 above. I knew about its subject, Robert Fulton, but I didn’t know anything about Fulton and how similar Thomas Paine’s, albeit earlier, behavior was to his. Fast forward to the Wright Brothers and the selective history told about them–from the outset, their attempted invention was going to be sold to the US military, the most important fact that’s universally omitted. Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 20 2020 19:44 utc | 100 |
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