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Will the Beirut blast on top of the economic crisis steeply increase Christian emigration from Lebanon? Will that help Iran secure Lebanon as part of its sphere?

Posted by: tagi | Aug 6 2020 15:36 utc | 1

Cold War living fossil Ai Weiwei admits defeat, Western intellectual demise after long period of degeneration:

Think 'sanctions' will trouble China? Then you're stuck in the politics of the past

Jump straight to the last two paragraphs if you want to skip the propaganda.

I'm from the team that thinks the Western intellectual decline begun much earlier than commonly believed. Western intellectual degeneration begun right after Marx's death (1883), with isolated cases of "bright lamps" (a.k.a. Lenin and Gramsci). After Gramsci's death, the brightest Western intellectuals were just scattered very orthodox Marxists ("Marxians") who somehow survived the onslaught of the Cold War onward (e.g. Mészáros, Michael Roberts et al).

The so-called "hard sciences", however, continued to flourish for more than half-century. The last great hard science feat of the West was the internet (1980s), which already seems to be a late phenomenon of the gold age of Western STEM. But the internet didn't start a new Kondratiev cycle, so it continued to degenerate and, nowadays, Western STEM scientists are mostly very corrupt charlatans at the service of big business (see Boeing, Big Pharma, Big Brother Tech, TBTF etc.).


Shinzo Abe waves white flag; focus is not to "keep social and economic activity going":

Abe says no need for another state of emergency over coronavirus

Game's over for Japan. It's government was never really able to enforce a true lockdown (a la Wuhan). It will now let its people die freely and hope to be one of the first capitalist economies to recover so that it can at least have some competitive advantage over the rest.

The same is true for the rest of the capitalist economies (HK, Germany, S. Korea). They're all opening up and giving up. The Bank of England has already accepted reality: they stated that the English economy "at least didn't fall 14%" (it fell "only 9%") and that the country must "move on".

My opinion is simply this: those oblivious classical liberalism rationalizations underestimate the will of the masses (working classes). The only doubt is: will they go full-fascist (i.e. an "arch of freedom" to annihilate China) or will they go socialist?


Joke of the week:

PETA-UK Scam a Warning to Trading With West

Too bad PETA already had no credibility left even in the West. They are useless even for propaganda warfare now.


Ruling party [DPK] struggles with sinking approval rating

Every day is Groundhog Day for the social-democrats. They are like animals: do the same thing over and over, without ever learning.


The Chinese know what I know:

Trump’s TikTok crackdown a lesson for Chinese tech firms


New state jobless claims decline, but exceed one million for the 20th week

The claims are declining because the USA has a finite number of people. This is not good news at all.

The reality on the field is simple: most American workers were so indentured that those USD 600.00 per month made them objectively richer. Being unemployed, all of a sudden, became more lucrative than being employed.

Posted by: vk | Aug 6 2020 15:40 utc | 2

Any help please. Ammonium Nitrate is used to provide oxygen to a fuel that will then explode. How does it explode with no fuel?

Posted by: Ramon | Aug 6 2020 15:41 utc | 3

@vk 2
It's an extra $600 / week. Actually not bad at all.


other news... keeping an eye on Turkish Lira, again under pressure. With concerns over starting an avalanche of defaults in other countries, euro banks in particular are concerned. Would normally bail out via IMF etc, but Erdogan has been such an ass they might think this is the chance to get him out. Lots of geopolitical possibilities here.

Posted by: ptb | Aug 6 2020 15:51 utc | 4

tagi @1

The West's attempt to crush/collapse Lebanon is what will drive Lebanon towards Syria, Iran, Russia and China and the sooner this happens the sooner emigration of Christians (and others) will reduce to normal levels.

The utter despicability of Trump/US trying to use the disaster to provoke blame and engulf Lebanon in a disastrous wider conflict indicates (to me) that Lebanon has no future in the Western sphere of influence.

Posted by: ADKC | Aug 6 2020 15:51 utc | 5

@ Posted by: tagi | Aug 6 2020 15:36 utc | 1

Everybody living in Lebanon wants to leave Lebanon. The country is so corrupt that its own Central Bank was directly involved in its main corruption scheme.

Posted by: vk | Aug 6 2020 15:52 utc | 6

@ramon google it. don't go asking people for help with explosives, bad idea.

Posted by: ptb | Aug 6 2020 15:52 utc | 7

@ 7 ptb.. it is kinda hard to help someone who can't help themselves.... it has been known to happen!

Posted by: james | Aug 6 2020 15:54 utc | 8

james has been trying, without much success, to bring some reason to the discussion @SST. So I'm re-posting my earlier comment with greater detail to shed light on the matter.

PS SST is only one of many sources that are now exclaiming that "George Floyd killed himself".


Faulty logic prompted by callousness and tribalism @SST:

Yes, George Floyd Killed Himself by Larry C Johnson

Questions avoided:
  • Would Floyd be dead if the police encounter had not happened?
    Almost certainly not ... so he didn't kill himself.

    SST claims that the autopsy shows that Floyd had a lethal dose of fentanyl in his system. But this is contradicted by the fact that Floyd was alert and responsive during the encounter with police.

    The autopsy report says that they've seen death with a dose of as low as 3ml but that statement is highly misleading. A small thin person and a man as large as Floyd would have very different susceptibility. And someone that has been using fentanyl would have greater tolerance than a first-time user.

    From what I understand, if Floyd had a lethal dose of fentanyl or fentanyl+meth in his system, he would have been incapacitated within minutes. That is clearly not the case.

    Many people survived an overdose because emergencies services can provide Narcan (Naloxone) which counteracts the effects.

    Lastly, there is also a real concern that the blood sample provided to the lab was not Floyd's, was tampered with to look like Floyd had enough fentanyl and meth in his system to cause "wooden chest". But an overdose and "wooden chest" would've been apparent within minutes.

    A good discussion of these matters is found here.

  • Did Floyd leave a suicide note?
    No. So he didn't intend to kill himself.

  • Were the police officers not responsible for Floyd's death because they acted according to approved Department procedure?
    Floyd was held down an extraordinary length of time. Well past the point that he had passed out. That is unlikely to be approved procedure.

    PS Drawing a gun on a suspect who allegedly passed a $20 bill doesn't seem like approved procedure either.

  • Are all the protests discredited because Floyd had drugs in his system?
    No. Floyd very likely did not have a lethal dose in his system and Floyd's death in custody was just the latest in a long line of unjustified killings of black men in custody and police brutality/general malfeasance.

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Perhaps more can now see that "It's only a training issue!" was just a red-herring. The real "issue" is the racist attitudes of a white establishment boot-lickers that so cherishes their supremacist mindset that they would lie to protect it.

George Floyd didn't kill himself. But SST has killed its credibility (again).


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 6 2020 15:59 utc | 9

I read somewhere that lebonon imports 90% of its food and gas. Already coming out of a banking crisis, feels bad man. Also you can try to blame trump, isreal or nukes the fact is the country cant shake its massive corruption problems. That cargo should of never been stored in the docks it was prob by some asshat who thought they can sell the stuff trying to make a buck, and state institutions couldn't do anything about it

Posted by: Bob | Aug 6 2020 16:06 utc | 10

@ 9 jackrabbit... thanks... i think some really believe in the status quo and don't want it challenged.. others question it... we seem to be of the later persuasion..

Posted by: james | Aug 6 2020 16:06 utc | 11

Research from Loughborough and Sheffield Universities suggests new approach to recording COVID deaths (in UK)

A new study by academics at the Universities of Loughborough and Sheffield, and economic consultants at Economic Insight...

"...have used statistical techniques to better identify deaths due to COVID, applying the excess death framework more robustly and controlling for other factors that affect mortality. The key findings are as follows:

* Actual deaths due to COVID are some 54% or 63% lower than implied by the standard excess deaths measure, and reported excess deaths likely include a significant number of non-COVID deaths.

* While it is well known that COVID deaths are concentrated in the elderly, the study finds them to be particularly acute in the very elderly (75-84 and 85+ years old).

* Over the lockdown period as a whole Government policy has increased mortality rather than reduced it.

This final finding may be alarming to some, but the authors point out that the lockdown initiative was always intended to ‘flatten the curve’ (delaying the spread to avoid overburdening the NHS) and not necessarily to lower mortality rates. They also assert that the overall increase in mortality is a result of significant unintended consequences of the lockdown, for example, reduced A and E... (Accident & Emergency)...attendances and reduced cancer and cardiac treatments.

Speaking about the new study, Loughborough’s Professor Karligash Glass said: “In addition to providing a new way of measuring the impact of COVID-19, this study raises questions not simply about the efficacy of the blanket lockdown response, but also whether Government communications to encourage public compliance have inadvertently driven other, more harmful, behaviours.” "

Posted by: ADKC | Aug 6 2020 16:11 utc | 12

فیلم حرارتی که توسط دوربین ترمال از لحظه ی انفجار در بندر بیروت منتشر شده است و نشان میدهد انفجار بعد از
برخورد (موشک) اتفاق افتاده است.
Please look at this video and you will see that the terrorist attacked on Lebanon to be a missile attack and not an accident.

Posted by: BlueB | Aug 6 2020 16:26 utc | 13


Japan has 8 deaths per million (with 7000 tests per million, lol), and no bodies lying in gutters on streets.

Third world countries, are not faced with dead bodies on streets. Gaza, is not inundated with Covid corpses.

Maybe, just maybe, the direct evidence from 'third world shitholes', is enough to point to a fact that covid actually kills far far less - directly - than Fauci demands you piss your pants over?!

Posted by: Ilya G Poimandres | Aug 6 2020 16:30 utc | 14

@ 13 blueb... that is a pretty obvious link.. thanks.. i don't know if videos like that can be manipulated, but if not, it looks fairly decisive..

Posted by: james | Aug 6 2020 16:41 utc | 15

Postcard from the New American Century:

Where have all the Mass Shootings gone? Remember them? They were like clockwork for a while. All kinds; a rainbow of mass shooting flavors; red, white & blue. We haven't had a mass shooting in ages. Why? Well, sure, the pandemic, of course, cough-cough, duh, but why?

Not many mass shooters are fat, old diabetics. It's true there were so many mass shootings for a while, it's hard to keep track of all the different mass shooter demographics. But a review of the data shows there were no old, fat diabetics or women counted among the human time bomb epidemic. (A special shout out to the women out there who channel their rage into non-lethal activities.)

So, it's not like Covid19 has taken out the mass shooter population. And it's not like the lockdown has touched essential businesses like Walmart, Home Depot and Costco. Still plenty of crowds out there to fire into. Are all the would-be, wanna-be mass shooters being respectful of the general landscape of mass fear and loathing; a nation of headless chickens running around a barnyard from sea to shining sea beating each other up over mask compliance? Are the trigger happy human time bombs waiting it out so as not to compete with the daily Pandemic Panic on the evening news. We do know how obsessed those mass shooters are with their 15 minutes of fame. One thing we know about mass shooters; they don't like to share.

And this is at a time that Pandemic Panic has sent gun sales to all time highs.

So just thinking out loud here, ruminating a puzzle. It's common sense that in the locked down land of the New Normal a LOT more folks would go 'postal' especially at the Post Office, not less. Not zero.

So what is going on? Where have all the mass shootings gone?

Posted by: gottlieb | Aug 6 2020 16:41 utc | 16

@ Posted by: Ilya G Poimandres | Aug 6 2020 16:30 utc | 14

Ok, mr. Western Man: tell us, over your most gracious and grand wisdom, how many corpses are acceptable.

But really, this is not about the body count: every pandemic is also a societal issue. Besides the body count, there's the disrespect, the abandonment by the government, the lack of empathy by the petite-bourgeoisie, the objectification of the working class as disposable goods. And also the body count: we don't need mass graves to realize people are dying from this pandemic.

Posted by: vk | Aug 6 2020 16:51 utc | 17

IGP @14

dead bodies on streets

Posted by: arby | Aug 6 2020 17:01 utc | 18

IGP @14

more dead bodies

Posted by: arby | Aug 6 2020 17:04 utc | 19

Pepe Escobar (Middle/Far East Correspondant) is saying the Saudi's tracked a drone missile incoming to Beirut. He has also posted a video which seems to show a missile impact. I have no idea about the validity of either, but note there's a French team investigating the site.

Posted by: Mark H | Aug 6 2020 17:06 utc | 20

Interesting that those two countries, Ecuador and Bolivia have swung hard right recently. One with a coup, and one with a turncoat traitor.

Posted by: arby | Aug 6 2020 17:07 utc | 21

BlueB @Aug6 16:26 #13

... the terrorist attacked on Lebanon to be a missile attack and not an accident.

There are many videos of the explosion that have been uploaded to social media. Virtually all do not show any sign of a missile. So I'm naturally suspicious of any that do.

I see what you did there: narrowing the choice to missile vs. accident. You want us not to consider sabotage as a possibility?

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james @Aug6 16:41 #15

i don't know if videos like that can be manipulated

Any video can be manipulated.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 6 2020 17:13 utc | 23

Posted by: Mark H | Aug 6 2020 17:06 utc | 20

Mentioned "French team investigating the site", do you trust the French? They're no better than the yanks, brit, and 5eyes..? Gimme a break!

Posted by: JC | Aug 6 2020 17:13 utc | 24

Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere and I missed it:-

This is a long read, but worth it. I hope my preview was correct, and that this fits without distorting the page.

A big hat tip to naked capitalism and Yves for posting this at their site.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 6 2020 17:23 utc | 25

arby @19, ok - but ~0.2% of the population (2300 out of 11 million deaths officially) - and likely ripping through much faster than with our lockdowns.. should the policy not be containment of the high risk, elderly and preconditioned?

And for the poor nations, the economic argument is much stronger than for our wealthy nations, where we can sit on our arses for a bit longer before we starve!

Posted by: Ilya G Poimandres | Aug 6 2020 17:25 utc | 26

The roots of Lebanon's collapse

After the end of the civil war in Lebanon 1974-1986, somehow extinguished by Saudi Arabia and Syria under the Taeef accord, Lebanon was left under control of Saudi Arabia and Syria with the approval of the international community.
Saudi Arabia provided the finances for reconstruction through its Saudi-Lebanese agent Rafik Hariri while Hafez Al Assad, then Syria president, provided the Syrian army to prevent the re-ignition of the civil war between Christians, Shias, Sunnis, Druzes and Palestinians who were one of the major trigger of the civil war.
Hariri wanted to make Lebanon the "Cote d'Azur" for rich Gulf countries, a touristic paradise where drinks and gambling was allowed. Most non-touristic industries were abandoned, factories closed. Hotels,luxurious apartments and shopping centers were built on the ruins of Beirut center. Everything was imported from Europe. Electricity needs , Water needs, infrastructure for the country were ignored for the sake of the fancy "Cote d'azur" dream.
The Syrian military presence allowed Syrians 'business' men to use the money pouring from Saudi arabia to create a
'mafia' with corrupted Lebanese, politicians or businessmen to rob as much as they could. This went on until 2005. The country was been abused.
The murder of Rafiq Hariri was imediatly attributed to Syria and to the Hezbollah who had used the money to build a military power but was perceived as an agent of Syria.
The Syrian military left without insisting and in 2006 Israel attacked Lebanon to destroy Hezbollah. It failed but the country was left with luxurious shopping centers and No electricity, No water, crumbling infrastructure and corruption very well engrained at all levels.
Rafik Hariri and the Saudi's "Cote d'azur" absurd dream was falling apart. There were no more rich tourists. His son Saad Al Hariri attempted to sustained the dream with a plan to attract more money from expatriates by offering high interests and make Lebanon a banking centre. The trouble is that the war in Syria, the instability of the region started to discourage rich Gulf investors and expatriates to trust Lebanon and the dollars became scarce, thus accelerating the collapse of the economy.
Lebanese found themselves with a deeply corrupted system, ruined and abandoned by the international community because of its opposition to Israel's plan to weaken all its arab neighbours so it has free hand to grab. A plan that has the active support of the USA and some western countries.
To get out of that mess is a daunting task as it necessitates not only extracting the deeply ingrained corruption, now a way of life in Lebanon, but to find a solution to Israeli's occupation of Lebanese, Syrian and Palestinian lands.. I wonder how this can ever be done!

Posted by: Virgile | Aug 6 2020 17:31 utc | 27

The video at BlueB's--13 link is the same as the one at pepe Escobar's FB page and clearly shows two missiles in the thermal imaging mode, or is it just one missile taken from two different vantage points by two different recorders? Is it possible to fake such images? Yes, the Zionists would make such an attack since they thought they could get away with it. IMO, Occupied Palestine will soon become a very poor place to reside within. If the images are true, then I owe the bar an apology for my snarky comment on yesterday's thread.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 6 2020 17:44 utc | 28

Posted by: groucho | Aug 6 2020 17:12 utc | 22

"Kudos to Yves Smith of Naked Capitalism."

Yves Smith is a genuine racist and China basher... Sometimes after Paul Jay and Sharmini Peries were booted out TRNN June-Oct 2019. I hanged around Naked Capitalism hopping Paul will show up her site. I rebutted her speculation China's Xinjiang re-education camps locked up millions Uyghurs. I wrote a long rebutted piece, stating the lies quoted from Grayzone investigative journalism website. She refused to publish my rebuttal..

She like most NeoLiberal walks a fine line still very must a Dem, which I really despise with passion.

Posted by: JC | Aug 6 2020 17:45 utc | 29

Oooop correction speller did not catch it..."She like most NeoLiberal walks a fine line still very much a Dem, which I really despise with passion."

Posted by: JC | Aug 6 2020 17:50 utc | 30


"China Helped Saudis Build Secret Nuclear Site For Extracting Yellowcake: WSJ"

It begins with one headline.

Posted by: librul | Aug 6 2020 17:53 utc | 31

This is very important information. You should all read this carefully:

WHO admits Wuhan may not be virus origin, offsetting rumor

WHO's admission that Wuhan may not be the origin of COVID-19 may put to rest conspiracy theories that have put the central Chinese city and China in a bad light over the virus' origin, Chinese epidemiologists said. They urged for more research on transmission channels and virus host which are vital for epidemiologic studies.


"The fact that the fire alarm was triggered doesn't necessarily mean that was where the disease crossed from animals to humans," [senior WHO official Mike] Ryan said at a press conference in Geneva.

His comments came as the organization's team to China concluded its weeks-long mission, which was to lay the groundwork for further joint efforts at identifying the origin of the coronavirus.


Mounting facts and scientific evidence are emerging to support the hypothesis that the coronavirus did not originate in Wuhan, Zeng Guang, chief epidemiologist of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, told the Global Times, citing a sample of the virus found in Barcelona waste water collected as early as March 2019, and virus spotted in a sewer in Brazil in November last year.

Posted by: vk | Aug 6 2020 17:59 utc | 32

I haven't been following the massive amounts of money that Trump has given Phizer and maybe someone else for a CV vaccine. I see Canada is doing the same. As far as I can tell there is no vaccine as yet.

Craig Murray has similar write up on The shenanigans in the UK.

get rich quick

Posted by: arby | Aug 6 2020 18:10 utc | 33

vk: "Western intellectual degeneration begun right after Marx"

I'm not part of a "team" like you, vk /g, and happen to think that Marx is not "the end" of englightenment, but rather the "the beginning" of the Renaissance of Ideology. So, yes, a definite landmark in the decline of Western intellect.

Prior to "prophet" Marx, the West was enjoying the fruits of its hard won victory over the "prophets" of Bible. Interestingly enough, all these "prophets" are not really "Westerners".

After Marx, the "religious mindset" re-asserted itself in guise of "scientific" socio-political speculations operating on a base of (frankly) fairly rudimentry understanding of human psyche in terms of individual and collectives. Unsurprisingly, "prophet" Marx is from the same era that gave us Snake Oil a bit further in the "West".

Posted by: conspiracy-theorist | Aug 6 2020 18:20 utc | 34

Any of our Aussies care to comment on this article about Sovereign Citizens arising in Melbourne? How well can his writing be trusted when he says:

"No one wants to die from a virus originating from a pangolin in a Chinese market."

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 6 2020 18:22 utc | 35

I mentioned SCMP is a Trojan Horse for Taiwan's KMT and HK (group) secession movement Joe (Joseph) Tsai of Alibaba and Gary Liu CEO SCMP. Here headlines SCMP to their website: Deleted

Posted by: JC | Aug 6 2020 18:28 utc | 36

@ Posted by: conspiracy-theorist | Aug 6 2020 18:20 utc | 34

You rise an important question, which is: why is Marx considered the last of the Enlightened, and not the first of the degenerates?

The answer is simple and definitive: because we know (it is documented) the process of intellectual degeneration of the West begun as a conscious operation to bury Marx's works. And that these "gravediggers" of Marx are the common ancestors of today's Western intellectuals.

And there's more: we know the process didn't begin with Marx per se, but with Hegel. That is, in order to make the obliteration of Marx more credible in the West, Hegel had to be obliterated first. This is also very well documented, its demonstration being very easy.

We also know this process didn't happen only from the outside, but also from the inside. We already note a distortion of Marx within social-democracy in Germany as early as the end of the 19th Century (the explanation for that is simple: the SPD was never the party of Marx and Engels, but the party of Lassalle). By the time of Rosa Luxemburg, the German Marxists already had a completely wrong interpretation of Marx.

During the post-war, the so-called center-left intellectuals revived the corpse of Kant and founded Neokantism, which is the staple philosophical interpretation (common sense) used until today in the West. With Neokantism, the West buried both Hegel and Marx.

Posted by: vk | Aug 6 2020 18:32 utc | 37

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 6 2020 17:44 utc | 28

Is it possible to fake such images? Yes, the Zionists would make such an attack since they thought they could get away with it.

There is a disingenuous (if obvious) attempt in social networks to further the missile narrative, nuclear or not nuclear is "unclear", anyway understanding what is the immediate consequence of these allegations naturally reveal those behind it.

How respected analysts are falling for it with nothing else to show for it than these videos and witty reasoning I honestly can't fathom. Is this world so much in despair for war? I certainly know who is!

Posted by: Vasco da Gama | Aug 6 2020 18:35 utc | 38

The corruption is endemic. Here's a beautiful little story from Canada where a "Think Tank"- and there is a marvellous photograph of its grinning, corrupt idiotic denizens- named after two of Canada's most loyal imperialist leaders, one Tory the other Liberal, has been churning out warmongering reports emphasising the need for Canadians to be ready to start a world war on behalf of the peculiarly corrupt, right wing, racist, fascistic government of Latvia.
The story tells us that more than 80% of the "Think Tank"s funding comes from the government of Latvia. It is my guess that Latvia, most famous for honouring SS veterans, driving its workers abroad to seek work and depriving Russian speakers of the vote, gets these funds from Canada.

Posted by: bevin | Aug 6 2020 18:40 utc | 39

I completely agree with this"The American Narrative of Hiroshima is a Statue that Must be Toppled":

"The fire raids are completely obscured by the A-bombs in American and Japanese memory. Historian Mark Selden called these, somewhat provocatively, a forgotten Holocaust. The comparison with the Holocaust is problematic for contemporary Americans. Even obscene. But, this was not always so. Already in August 1945, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Felix Morley, not exactly a Marxist firebrand, wrote “At Nazi concentration camps, we have paraded horrified German civilians before the piled bodies of tortured Nazi victims…It would be equally salutary to send groups of representative Americans to Hiroshima. There, as at Buchenwald, there are plenty of unburied dead.” We still have not heeded Morley’s advice. We are still refusing to look at the crimes we committed during our last good war. If Morley could say this in 1945, right after the liberation of the camps, American patriotism at its highest point, we should be able to think about the implications of the comparison now.

"But we rarely do. The American narrative of the nuclear attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki—which are by definition, war crimes—focuses entirely on the perpetrators. When it is being recounted by experts, it often obsesses over them. Who said what to whom on what day? What materials were moved from place A to place B on what day? How were the weapons of mass destruction assembled? Who did what? The American narrative of the nuclear attacks is an obsession with the killers, and with their weapon. To the degree that the war crime itself is discussed, the focus is on the physical effects and dynamics of the weapon. The presence beneath this process of thousands of schoolchildren is unnoted." [My Emphasis]

At least the Truth is being more widely circulated nowadays, although not nearly wide enough. John Pilger's fine essay is getting a wider than usual distribution, but still remains absent from major media within the Outlaw US Empire where it needs to be read the most.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 6 2020 18:47 utc | 40

The figure of 80% looks exaggerated to me. But the corruption is evident enough from the photograph.

Posted by: bevin | Aug 6 2020 18:48 utc | 41

Couldn't help noticing that Micron was in Lebanon Thursday apparently offering to shoulder the White Man's Burden by declaring Lebanon a French Protectorate for 10 years. Is there is anything worth stealing left in Lebanon, apart from its planned role as a transit hub in China's Belt & Road Initiative?

Christian Colonial offers of aid to Lebanon are notable as much for the intrinsic offer of creative interference as for the underwhelming parsimony.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 6 2020 18:51 utc | 42

I've know for the last 20 yrs that the Western economies can only survive by preying upon weaker economies, but now all of the weak economies have been pillaged and won't recover for at least another 40 years. That means the Western economies could either learn to be more materially productive (and thus less financialized) or they would have to attack the stronger economies that could push back against Western aggression. irredeemably corrupt and aggressive, the Westerns countries unsurprisingly chose more war, first against Syria and if Syria had fallen to the US backed Jihadies, the Western economies could have pillaged it for 10 years and used it as a spring board into Iran and then Russia, China and India. But the Syrians, with Russia and Iranian support beat back the American stooges and now the Americans (whose economic survival depended on eating the corpse of the Syrian state) are now desperate and are doubling down. Once again, the Western countries (US, UK, Canada, Australia, France and Germany) are being marshalled for another war of aggression against another state, this time China. It will take another 4 or 5 years to refocus the economies to go after China (it took almost 6 years to set the stage for the Syria war after Iraq), but make no mistake, the Western terrorist states have once again chosen war and it is coming for China

Posted by: Kadath | Aug 6 2020 18:53 utc | 43

@ Vasco da Gama #38 who wrote
How respected analysts are falling for it with nothing else to show for it than these videos and witty reasoning I honestly can't fathom. Is this world so much in despair for war? I certainly know who is!

I see our world not so much in despair for war but for justice for the dead. War for profit and control has been going on for centuries now and the dead in the wake of perfidy by the monied elite want justice.

I do not believe that the horror in Beirut was an accident or coincidence, even though they may have been contributing factors.

Humanity is in a civilization war about whether global finance is a public utility or stays the jackboot of social control that it has been for centuries. We are blessed that China is taking the fight to the global financial elite for humanity with Russia's backing.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 6 2020 18:54 utc | 44

There's no evidence whatsoever that there was a nuke and no credible evidence of a missile.

These alternative-explanations are proposed by the usual suspects to sensationalize the discussion and defeat rational analysis. We've seen such manipulation before. No reason anyone should fall for it this time.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 6 2020 19:00 utc | 45

The postmodern are also in the revisionist business:

The Real Reason the American Economy Boomed After World War II

It's is not enough to make truth relative anymore, they now have to falsify history.

Posted by: vk | Aug 6 2020 19:03 utc | 46

I totally share those concerns, psychohistorian, I don't know what happened in beirut and the probability of foul play is high and possible, but all of us longing for justice must carry ourselves on absolute solid ground, we can't push ourselves against something with rarefied air for backing, that is a sure way to fail. Solid ground is the minimum standard, we'll drown with the adversary otherwise.

Posted by: Vasco da Gama | Aug 6 2020 19:17 utc | 47

This fascinating essay deserved its own comment box, "How the Fascists Won World War II." The essay examines this issue: "How the IG Farben HQ survived World War II, however, is a mystery whose dark depths hold secret links between the past and the present." It initially describes the structure thusly:

"Before construction of the Pentagon during World War II, the two largest and most famous office buildings on planet Earth were the Empire State Building and the headquarters of German industrial behemoth IG Farben. Building these palaces of capitalism was a frantic race run in 1930-1931, at the opening of the Great Depression. Both edifices were designed to inspire awe, by “skyscraper” height in New York, by overwhelming grandiosity in Frankfurt."

That such a key building in Frankfurt was untargeted while two civilian cities in Japan 75 years ago were roasted in a mini Holocaust does make one wonder:

"How could this building not have been—for military reasons alone, not to mention moral reasons–the prime target of U.S. and British bombing? But for other reasons, no Allied forces were ever permitted to attack the citadel of Nazi power and command center of Germany’s greatest war crimes. This was not because the ancient city of Frankfurt, where German kings and emperors had been crowned as early as 855AD, was spared. The cloak-and-dagger action of Berlin Express takes us on a nightmare scenic tour of the bombed-out remains of Frankfurt. Lucien Ballard’s superb black-and-white photography captures endless miles of skeletal buildings, vast piles of rubble, mutilated beggars, and the homeless. Some of the main action takes place inside the ruins, including key scenes in a clandestine pro-Nazi night club hollowed out behind the rubble. The IG Farben building stood unscathed, amid a city bombed into a modern form of the stone age....

"The IG Farben headquarters thus combined those prime targets of the 9/11 bombers: the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the two most famous office buildings in the 21st century world."

Lots of leads to books and films, some that are new to me pepper the prose. IMO, the article ought to promote outrage, and it begs for much wider circulation. Henry Wallace warned us about American Fascists and their danger, but few listened and thought the danger died with the war. This article proves such hopes were totally unjustified.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 6 2020 19:22 utc | 48

how does one determine whether a video is real, or faked??

my friends response - "well.. takes a bit of video editing skill and tools, but probably wouldn't take more than hour or two for someone that knows how to do it."

Posted by: james | Aug 6 2020 19:25 utc | 49

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 6 2020 18:22 utc | 35
(Sovereign Citizens in Oz)

It's true that the cops smashed the windows of cars which were stopped for being farther than 5km from home without a permit or good excuse. But cops anywhere can smash the window of a car they've stopped to establish direct communication with the driver...
ALL of the Sovereign Citizens in Vic have been cranks and there's zero public sympathy for them.
The Vic lockdown IS Draconian but until I can dream up a better way to beat COVID, AND persuade to adopt it, I intend to abide by their rules.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 6 2020 19:32 utc | 50

Vasco da Gama @38--

In my two comments on yesterday's thread, I accepted the plausibility of the initial reasons for the massive explosion and condemned the authorities who made it possible. I then made a snarky comment aimed at those putting forth the nuke line based on the color and types of clouds seen. I then saw the "thermal video view" this morning and thus my above comment. Crazed events always accompany the dying of an Empire. Perhaps the Zionists are being wrongly accused in this incident, but they're guilty of others just as heinous for which they've so far escaped punishment. IMO, Occupied Palestine must become Palestine again and the entire region freed from all imperial presences. But I'd like to keep to the moral high ground if at all possible.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 6 2020 19:38 utc | 51

Thermal imaging video? In the day time? I guess there could have been somebody doing that. But two - taken from different places and both have a 'missile' diving in - lots and lots of question marks there .... and then those two videos are put together for the one video clip????

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 6 2020 19:39 utc | 52

i think the video is fake... i will wait for the proof later...

Posted by: james | Aug 6 2020 20:00 utc | 53

karlof1 | Aug 6 2020 19:22 utc | 48

Think about what you wrote and consider that the FDR policy set (As He Saw It et sec) did not permit the US collaborators and their nazi associates and co-conspirators, to escape, nor did it include using the bomb on anybody, or using it to intimidate USSR/Russia. Most US collaborators did just fine, and so did most of the nazis - except for the ones they shot in the Eastern block, and the many, nominally "nazi" POW's who were made into convict labor in the USSR - those guys suffered....but ah! In the West! Most did just fine.

The coincidences seem endlessly favorable to the dark side.

It seems to me that the coincidental factors of Groves' statement of bomb policy - "for Russia", the Wallace/Truman swap, and the timely death of FDR - that these and related serendipitous events exude the foul odor of treason and betrayal...and that lines up with project paperclip and all the immigration into Canada and the US and Argentina and so forth...and even also with Gladio etc...and Ukraine today...that great US project... what does this say?

Posted by: Walter | Aug 6 2020 20:02 utc | 54

Perhaps the Zionists are being wrongly accused in this incident, but they're guilty of others just as heinous for which they've so far escaped punishment.

Agreed, but I don't have any faith in peoples conscience overcoming the delusion they're fed daily if their first step towards reality happens to be welcomed with further "betrayal", not everyone conducts their life with a materialist historical perspective not to mention being old enough to begin appreciating one. I don't believe in shortcuts!

Posted by: Vasco da Gama | Aug 6 2020 20:06 utc | 55

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 6 2020 18:47 utc | 40

I was reading this early this morning ZeroHedge John Pilger excellent essay:

"Atomic Bombings At 75: John Pilger - "Another Hiroshima Is Coming Unless We Stop It Now"

Many commenters were against Pilger calling him a commie, discounted what the Jap. did, not only to ASEAN but China, Nanking Massacre, also called Rape of Nanjing. The debates dwell on the Japs and Americans. But, but, but the Chinese suffered in ASEAN and in China. I have more opinions but poor writing skill and spelling discourage me to continue....

(BTW karlof1 I still own you one, the last open thread on Taiwan and PRC (Mainland) China civil war). :-)

Posted by: JC | Aug 6 2020 20:08 utc | 56

Beirut explosion - what we know for sure - there was a big fire and there was a huge explosion. There were over 2500 tons of High density ammonium nitrate stored haphazardly in a warehouse taken from a ship sponsored by a very suspicious Russian businessman. Who abandons 1/2 a millions dollars of cargo to sit in a warehouse? Both Israel and Hezbollah both say both of us didn't have anything to do with it. Uncharacteristically Israel is offering aid. The port authorities say they tried many times over the 6 years to deal with the Ammonium nitrate but were stopped by judge (s?). Why does nobody name this judge? There is much speculation. It did happen at a time when the US and Israel were unhappy with the Lebanon government. On the otherhand, a fireworks factory next to a storehouse of ammonium nitrate is an accident waiting to happen. Apparently just the way the ammonium nitrate was stored was an accident waiting to happen. At the same time sabotage would have been easy to make it happen. It is not clear to me that the popping little happenings like fireworks are before or after the big one. Some say they could be weapons exploding. It is possible that Israel tried to destroy some Hezbollah weapons stored nearby and... then both would not want this to come to light. Its Lebanon explosions happen.

Posted by: gepay | Aug 6 2020 20:11 utc | 57

gepay | Aug 6 2020 20:11 utc | 57 Von Luckner, the WW One figure, describes in one of his early autobiographies being a saboteur and planting incendiary bombs. He makes it clear that the saboteur plants his infernal gadgets where they will have an effect - not out on the prairie, but in a dynamite factory or the hold of a ship, etc.

An interesting book for casual reading is "The Detonators" (Chad Millman) Includes stuff on Black Tom and even pictures or diagrams of the nifty little incendiaries, and even spells out the chemistry a bit... Also says that the Imperial German and US collaborators cultured anthrax - with efforts to inoculate horses and cattle as these animals were on-loaded for transport to Europe.

I agree with you that a saboteur would obviously make the "best" of all that AN...

But in the world, where people do stupid stuff with machines and chemicals and so forth, real accidents really happen. The Halifax (1917) explosion being a point in that direction

Posted by: Walter | Aug 6 2020 20:31 utc | 58

Posted by: vk | Aug 6 2020 15:40 utc | 2

Interestingly, Ai Weiwei has a jew family name. As did Bruce Lee (Li).

"During the Ming Dynasty (1368–1644), a Ming emperor conferred seven surnames upon the Jews, by which they are identifiable today: Ai (艾), Shi (石), Gao (高), Gan (甘), Jin (金), Li (李), Zhang (張), and Zhao (趙)."

Posted by: tucenz | Aug 6 2020 20:36 utc | 59

Hoarsewhisperer @50--

Thanks for your reply! I'd welcome that sort of lockdown, too, since it appears to be the only rational way to deal with the bug. Unfortunately, here in the states it looks like we'll still be dealing with it well into next year as mask wearing becomes the norm.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 6 2020 20:48 utc | 60

elijah magnier - video is fake..

Posted by: james | Aug 6 2020 21:17 utc | 61

vk @2 makes very good points about where things when wrong with scientific inquiry, but I would like to clarify one point concerning the line "The so-called "hard sciences", however, continued to flourish for more than half-century..."

In fact all sciences are "hard sciences". The reason that some of the sciences are thought to be limp and squishy and lacking in rigor, testability, or predictive power is because those are precisely the sciences that depend upon the foundation that Marx provided. Efforts to develop those branches of inquiry in such a way that they repudiate Marx's work results in something that isn't science at all. Efforts to harden up economics and all other social sciences invariably leads back to Marx's studies, whereupon the liberal academician shies away from that line of thinking and embraces nonsense, reassuring himself by arguing that his field of study is inherently formless and malleable anyway.

The sciences are actually all intimately interrelated at very fundamental levels. The same fundamental principles underlie all of the sciences. While this is obvious where physics and chemistry are concerned, and it is becoming more obvious that biology is bound to those two in the same way, the liberal worldview prevents academics from integrating economics and psychology and the other social sciences as has been done with biology. The whole of science is like an interrelated circle or wheel, but fully a third of that wheel remains mushy nonsense even after many generations of effort to complete that circle. This failure damages the integrity of the entire wheel. For example, those who pay attention to such things might have noticed in recent years that strange identity politics toxins have been creeping into theoretical physics, which is a field of inquiry that should be the very hardest of sciences. The rot that infects the social sciences spreads because the sciences are all connected. It cannot be the social sciences that yield because that would mean starting over with where Marx left off, so it is the other sciences that begin to develop soft spots instead.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 6 2020 21:20 utc | 62

@43 Kadath
BS. Many European countries like Germany and Switzerland have very innovatve, productive and efficient manufacturing sectors. The workforce is well trained, disciplined and produces things of value. How are they ripping others off? Why shuld they not enjoy the fruit of their labour?

Posted by: tonk | Aug 6 2020 21:26 utc | 63

karlof1 | Aug 6 2020 20:48 utc | @60

you're a pensioner or .gov employee, right? a productive person does not think like this.

Posted by: tonk | Aug 6 2020 21:30 utc | 64

Here's the original of one of the photo shopped videos (The second segment in the fake video)

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 6 2020 21:33 utc | 65

Walter @54--

Nice to get a reply from you! In Dave Lindorff's essay I linked to yesterday which I suggest reading if you haven't yet is this interesting bit:

"Some important scientists involved in the creation of the bomb urged the sharing of its construction secrets with America’s ally in the war against the Axis powers, the Soviet Union. These scientists, many of them Nobel-winning physicists, said negotiations should begin immediately at that point to eliminate nuclear weapons for all time, just as germ and chemical weapons had already been banned (successfully as the history of WWII showed).

"But military and civilian leaders in Washington balked at the idea of sharing the bombs’ secrets. In fact, after Bohr’s visit, President Roosevelt reportedly had the FBI monitor Nobelist Nils Bohr, one of the Los Alamos scientists who directly pleaded with him to bring the Russians into the bomb project, and even considered barring him from leaving the US. The Truman administration considered deporting Leo Szilard, and after Robert Oppenheimer proposed to Truman the sharing of the bomb with the Russians, his top-secret security clearance was revoked." [My Emphasis]

FDR may not be as innocent appearing in the entire affair as it might seem. Very few got busted for dealing with the Nazis before or during the War, including some very big Big Shots. The trend also seems that ever more evidence harmful to US/UK War Narrative continues to emerge from the archives as they're further opened. Remember, behavior provides evidence of beliefs/values, and the smell I'm getting isn't that from rotting crab remains after 7 days in the sun. I just wish I had the time and resources to examine the archives for the needles events suggest are lurking there. Being introduced to books and films I didn't know of is helpful and expose some secrets, but what I'm looking for happened before the War began. In his essay, Franklin provides the following post-war example which begs investigation of the actors pre-war activities:

"Leading the charge against the prosecutors of IG Farben’s chieftains was Congressman George Dondero of Michigan, who asserted on the floor of Congress, that Josiah DuBois, the prosecution’s lead attorney, as well as five other members of the team, were all 'Communist sympathizers' 'who are trying to blacken the name of IG Farben.' Dondero’s Congressional district happened to include the Midland, Michigan, international headquarters of Dow Chemical, whose links to IG Farben were already being exposed in U.S. newspapers. On the same House floor, Congressman John Rankin of Mississippi branded the trial a 'disgrace' where members of a 'racial minority' are 'trying German businessmen in the name of the United States.'"

Another question's begged: Who/what got the anti-Jewish bigots to change their minds and become Zionists?

Franklin mentions the 1948 film Berlin Express; did you ever view it? IMO, Franklin agrees with us that the answers to the questions that still matter are to be found prior to USA's entrance into WW2--and after as we see who gets brought into the government.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 6 2020 21:35 utc | 66

Thank you, james -- I never trust videos since the ones that supposedly supported the White Helmets in Syria. And I think when you have time, both you and karlof1 would gain from reading the interview at the link I posted @ 25. It goes in some depth into the reasons atomic bombs were used in Japan, with references to the appointment of Truman to his position of power so late in the war, and also of the 'mission creep' involved in targetting civilians prior to.

In light of b's latest post on Scott Ritter's book, I think the background contained in this interview is appropriate. I may post one of the parts I found interesting on that thread.

karlof1, I thought your initial response on the first Beirut post was appropriate. Didn't have time to thank you then, sorry.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 6 2020 21:45 utc | 67

There was a discussion yesterday about a bird seen flying into the smoke of the fire and phone video shots. Could this have been the drone/rocket? I've seen two different comments/clips on twitter of people hearing jets flying just before the explosions. Also, I've read other comments about the flight paths of two US spy planes happening at the same time as the Beirut explosions. What were they monitoring?

Posted by: cirsium | Aug 6 2020 21:51 utc | 68

JC @56--

Just so you know, I date the beginning of WW2 with Japan's invasion of Manchuria in 1931, not 1937, 38 or 39. Yes, the China, Burma, India Theatre got little attention at the time and even less now.

On your trying to reason and write in English which isn't your first language, I taught ESL and find it easier to understand mangled prose better than most; so, please try expressing yourself more while trying to increase the complexity of what you're trying to describe/express. You can't get any better unless you practice!

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 6 2020 22:27 utc | 69

cirsium @Aug6 21:51 #68

Your questions have already been discussed in prior comments over the last two days.

Could this have been the drone/rocket?

No, it wasn't a drone or rocket. Just a bird.

flight paths of two US spy planes

Just normal monitoring of Russian bases to the north.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 6 2020 23:03 utc | 70

tonk @64--

You must be a new reader here as most know my story. My last paying job was as a college instructor; as such, in no way could I advocate holding "normal" classes with such a highly infective virus on the rampage. To try and resume "normalcy", I'd advocate and follow the examples of China, New Zealand, and other nations that did their utmost to protect their citizens and stamp out the virus. It matters not if I work or am retired; what matters is taking the moral/ethical pathway to controlling the virus, something I wrote about back in January when I fairly well predicted what nations would fail and succeed. I reside within the Outlaw US Empire in the state of Oregon where we've done an outstanding job when compared to the rest of the nation in dealing with COVID while having to fight the head of the Federal government whose policy is one of Treason against the people through doing nothing. Indeed, our Constitution says one of the Federal government's primary duties is "to provide for the common defence," which Trump began dismantling almost as soon as he was sworn in as president as timelines I have detail. Sure, one can argue that since we lack universal healthcare--the primary first line of defence and personal security--that other presidents and Congresses are also guilty of Treason for acting against the fundamental interests of the citizenry. And I wouldn't argue against such thinking since it's 100% correct.

For me, a "productive person" acts in a moral/ethical manner to his fellow humans and would act with them collectively to crush the virus before it gains a foothold within society. Unfortunately, not so many of my fellow Americans think or act in that manner, which is why we have an Outlaw Empire well beyond the ability of the citizenry to control. Few have any conception that a citizen has duties that must be accomplished to earn the benefits of the Social Contract--most believe they're entitled to the latter. But the meager amount they get is a direct result of not performing one's duties as citizen, the most important of which is holding Power to account, which has never really happened here.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 6 2020 23:04 utc | 71

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 6 2020 22:27 utc | 69

Thanks brother, appreciate and understands my dilemma. These are not normal time, and McCarthysim is well and alive today. You learn about China’s civil war from books, vids and/or maybe Wilkpedia... I lived and witness from own eyes and from my mother, aunt and loved ones told me. Dad kept pretty quiet. He paid a high price being a KMT and a pro Westerner. I'm the generation lived during and after Japanese occupation, refugees, god save the queen, independence and more..

I wish to spend more time on SCMP more or less a Trojan horse for the USA and secessionists HongKong and Democratic Progressive Party

Posted by: JC | Aug 6 2020 23:32 utc | 72

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 6 2020 17:44 utc | 2 The video at BlueB's--13 link is the same as the one at pepe Escobar's FB page and clearly shows two missiles in the thermal imaging mode

Clearly? Clearly?! I watched that thing twice and I can't see crap. I've seen much better films of Bigfoot.

Christ, what a load of bullshit. Something blows up and the conspiracy theorists literally pour out of the walls here. If Escobar posted this crap as "evidence" of anything, he is rapidly losing credibility with me - and I usually agree with everything he writes about.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Aug 6 2020 23:33 utc | 73

Malka liefer must be jailed in israel.3 years with time off for good behaviour.

Posted by: mcohen | Aug 6 2020 23:36 utc | 74

Tucenz @ 59:

Li (李) is one of the most common surnames in China and overseas. Over 100 million people have this surname. Ai (艾) is rated 168 out of the 400 most common surnames in China.

Many Chinese surnames were adopted by different groups and communities throughout the territories ruled by Chinese empires as these peoples were assimilated into the Chinese ethnos. That many people happen to share a surname is not by itself any indication of a common or shared ancestry.

Jewish people who settled in China ended up adopting Chinese surnames just as Jewish people who settled in the Iberian peninsula often adopted Portuguese and Spanish surnames, and Jewish people living in other parts of the world adopted the surnames of their close neighbours.

Please grow up.

Posted by: Jen | Aug 7 2020 0:49 utc | 75

Re my comment @ 74:

Sorry folks, Ai (艾) is rated 184 out of 400 most common Chinese surnames, not 168.

Posted by: Jen | Aug 7 2020 0:54 utc | 76

@ 67 juliania....... that link @ 25 which you shared is quite chilling.. thanks for sharing it.. others - americans in particular, would benefit reading it...

Posted by: james | Aug 7 2020 1:19 utc | 77

Office of the State Treasurer @PATreasurer

Remdesivir manufacturer, Gilead, just set the price for the COVID-19 treatment: between $2,300 and $3,100 per patient.

@icer_review estimates the treatment costs approx. $1 per vital to produce. $1.

Posted by: Mao | Aug 7 2020 1:26 utc | 78

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Posted by: Mao | Aug 7 2020 1:45 utc | 79

The U.S. Treasury said it expects to raise $947 billion in debt over the three months through September to fund the massive and continuing spending surge to address the coronavirus crisis.

The figure, released in Washington Monday, is $270 billion higher than the Treasury projected in May, when it expected to borrow $677 billion of net marketable debt in the quarter. Since then, Covid-19 cases have surged to records in many states, disrupting economic reopening moves and forcing Congress to negotiate on another round of fiscal stimulus.

The Treasury said its numbers assume $1 trillion of “additional borrowing need in anticipation of additional legislation being passed.” That’s roughly the amount Republicans have proposed for a new virus-relief bill. But the Democratic-controlled House previously approved a $3.5 trillion package, and the two sides remain at loggerheads.

Posted by: Mao | Aug 7 2020 1:49 utc | 80

As expected the cries for revolution in the steets grow louder:

Posted by: Traiano Welcome | Aug 7 2020 2:00 utc | 81

U.S. Worse Off Than Russia, Mexico in 2020 Economic Misery Ranking

The U.S. is projected to see the worst reversal of fortune this year in a ranking of global economic misery, underscoring just how much havoc the pandemic has wrought.

America fell 25 spots, from the No. 50 spot to No. 25, on Bloomberg’s Misery Index, which tallies inflation and unemployment outlooks for 60 economies. The drop comes as President Donald Trump fights for re-election while millions of Americans remain unemployed. Only Iceland, Israel, and Panama were even close to that level of deterioration in the annual rankings.

Posted by: Mao | Aug 7 2020 2:10 utc | 82

@ Ilya G Poimandres

Similarly, the diligent authorities in Jordan enforced a strict lock down of a very narrow enclave, located in the West part of the capital city Amman. This is the same area where all the wealthy Jordanians and the expatriate community live.

Let's say they locked down 1 million out of a population of 8 million.

There are no bodies in the streets of any of the villages and towns throughout the country.

Posted by: guido | Aug 7 2020 4:43 utc | 83

Below is a link to a posting from The Register about Trump's executive Orders about banning WeChat and TikTok

Trump Administration labels WeChat, TikTok ‘threats’ to national security, bans transactions with both

The take away quote
The criticism of TikTok and WeChat as instruments of tracking and profiling are also a little odd given that the USA has never moved to stop private entities like Facebook and Amazon doing likewise. And then there’s this Tweet from the Trump re-election campaigns former head, and now boss of data, Brad Parscale.
"For nearly three years we have been building a juggernaut campaign (Death Star). It is firing on all cylinders. Data, Digital, TV, Political, Surrogates, Coalitions, etc.
Yup, you read that right: Parscale says the Trump campaign has a massive data weapon that links “Data, Digital, TV, Political, Surrogates, Coalitions, etc.” Meaning that what’s good for the Trump campaign is not good for the Communist Party, a position that is at least more traditional policy because Trump plans to use his Death Star in a democratic election while China’s democracy is a thin veneer for Party control.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 7 2020 5:17 utc | 84

Is the US at war with China yet?........

Below in another link to The Register posting about the Pompeo latest China = Bad Bullshit

USA decides to cleanse local networks of anything Chinese under new five-point national data security plan

The comments to this posting are interesting as well.....such as this from Mike137 "Since practically every piece of IT kit, regardless of where it's designed, is manufactured in China these days the task of "purging" will prove difficult unless it's merely a political token gesture."

Maybe just Fake war like Fake news

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 7 2020 5:36 utc | 85

Is it time to review China’s ‘developing country’ status at the WTO, considering its economic might?

High time!!!

Posted by: Antonym | Aug 7 2020 7:47 utc | 86

Update on W93/MK7:
FOIA 20-00203-EW. A thank you to Joseph Durso for taking the initiative.

- - -

Two stories:

1. 2018 Nicaragua "Unearthed USAID Nicaragua Regime Change Doc Puts 2018 Protests in Context". This has some external links that might also interest (not the two that only push other sputnik stories).

2. Auto-mistranslation "Iranian FM Zarif Snaps at Google for 'Glitch' When Translating Condolences to Lebanese People".

"The diplomat retweeted a video showing that Google Translate turns the phrase "condolences to the Lebanese people" in Persian into "congratulations" in Arabic and in English, while the translation is accurate when someone wants to write "condolences to the Israeli/American people"."

- - -

I wish this site didn't insist on Google… but I know the world is far from perfect.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Aug 7 2020 9:13 utc | 87

Can we arrange for Georgia to be seceded from the Union?

Jamie Ford @JamieFord
A family member teaches at this high school in Georgia (North Paulding High) that's made the news. Teachers and students were told they could be suspended if they posted photos of the school in a bad light. The student who took this photo for the yearbook has been suspended.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Aug 7 2020 10:59 utc | 88

Can we arrange for Georgia to be seceded from the Union?

Jamie Ford @JamieFord
A family member teaches at this high school in Georgia (North Paulding High) that's made the news. Teachers and students were told they could be suspended if they posted photos of the school in a bad light. The student who took this photo for the yearbook has been suspended.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Aug 7 2020 11:01 utc | 89

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Aug 7 2020 11:05 utc | 90

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Aug 7 2020 11:07 utc | 91

Sigh... what the hell is going on now? I'm off the VPN. Why the hell isn't my post showing?

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Aug 7 2020 11:08 utc | 92

Americans beginning to beg for their annona (grain dole), like imperial Roman citizens they are:

Coming Next: The Greater Recession

After all, they're Americans: they're entitled to live well just for being born within the pomerium, no matter what they do or what they contribute to society.


China to form new development pattern centered on "internal circulation"

This is interesting. I don't know if it will work, but looks, let's put it that way, "creative".

Who told you Central Committees of Communist parties can't be innovative?


July Jobs Report Is Likely to Reflect Lost Momentum

What the fuck is this language? "Momentum"? What is this? Witchcraft?

Someone must tell the journalists from the NYT that things happen for a reason, not because of "momentum".

Posted by: vk | Aug 7 2020 12:09 utc | 93

Richard Steven Hack #73

I agree, watched it multiple times and saw nothing missile-ish. Will project on large high Def screen soon and run through real slow.

It simply did not need any missile to achieve the big bang. Everything was in place. Perhaps the AN was triggered by another set detonation device and the fireworks was cover, but it really is not needed to give that end result if exploding fireworks and gunpowder are in the same or adjoining shed.

Was this locality under Phalange or Shia control?

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 7 2020 12:26 utc | 94

@ karlof1 | Aug 6 2020 21:35 utc | 66

Thanks. We are pretty close in our observations and "takes" on what the implications are. I heartily agree that the interesting stuff is pre-war...and then follow that along through into, well, now. The leads are in the first war, or even the war of I smell the City of London and the bankers and their "Atlantisist" agencies -

But I got lost when you spoke of "Franklin"... Who's he?

It may well be that we, or I, miss-estimate the degree to which FDR was limited in scope of Policy...and he must have been aware of the continuing plot to remove him...that would, I expect, limit his options.

Nevertheless the facts, so far as we can prise them out, seem to strongly imply that he stood in the way of the policy mooted by Groves, since the funny business with the DNC at the convention and the timely death.


You did a nice job of explaining yourself in response to the ad hominem.


About Black Tom...I have difficulty believing that MI6 was not aware of the Imperial German sabotage activities...and stood back and let it happen. This seems to tie into the theme of leads traced back.


Posted by: Walter | Aug 7 2020 12:55 utc | 95

Just a thought as to why the AN was left there all this time:
Someone got the bright idea to confiscate the shipment and stored at a dockside warehouse on purpose. In case of invasion by external powers (us) the port would be the logical main focus for logistics etc. Invading fleet settles in with marines gathered at the docks in the thousands. Remote detonate the AN that no-one knows is even there and goodbye invasion force.
There are many holes in this theory of course as it doesn't seem to have been a very well kept secret but if someone hands u a free nuke sized bomb seems a shame to waste it.

Posted by: PleaseBeleafMe | Aug 7 2020 13:08 utc | 96

uncle tungsten 93

Magnier goes into it a bit here.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 7 2020 13:31 utc | 97


"The answer is simple and definitive: because we know (it is documented) the process of intellectual degeneration of the West begun as a conscious operation to bury Marx's works. And that these "gravediggers" of Marx are the common ancestors of today's Western intellectuals."

It's not that simple; It's a bit more complex. And certainly not definitive.

Here is an alternative consideration:

A period of reversion to "philosophical" speculations, kick started by Marx and followed by reactionary response in the same plane of dialogue: word spinnig and speculations.

And the "Glass Bead Games" were resumed.

This trend toward accepting non-empirical word-weavings as "science" then infected actual science. The current crisis in Physics is a direct result of these trends.

Posted by: conspiracy-theorist | Aug 7 2020 13:45 utc | 98

So George Floyd died. So Fucking what, a no good flotsam scum is made a saint?
Please FO, this piece of shit had it coming to him, I would with no hesitation shot him in the neck. Fortunately for the police officer he was so loaded with "crap" he died. Good. He should have done that 15 years earlier.
Niggers are getting pretty entitled these days, they need a culling, as the degenerate, criminal beasts they are.
And I am not right wing, I see what is happening in Europe. But do not despair, we will get rid of the Arabs too. Filthy cheating scum.

Posted by: Den lille abe | Aug 7 2020 14:09 utc | 99

@ Posted by: conspiracy-theorist | Aug 7 2020 13:45 utc | 97

This is not the case, because:

1) Marx's works are clearly not "word spinning". They are undoubtedly scientific.

2) Those charlatans (vulgar economists) already existed in the droves by the time Marx existed. He even had to disclaim that his Capital was a critique of the "serious economists", not the "vulgar economists" who published in amateur magazines all around Europe during the 19th Century. And they attacked him while he was still alive.

3) There is no direct descendants to the classical economists today - even after the monumental effort by the capitalist do demoralize and bury Marx. No bourgeois economist today will defend his thesis on Adam Smith's works. In fact Adam Smith already was an outdated economist by the time of Marx. Today, he's just mentioned as some kind of symbol. You could argue for the Neoricardians as evidence for an attempt to revive classical liberalism - but the Neoricardians are publicly denounced as heterodox, fringe economists. Well, if Marx represented the imbecilization of classical liberalism - the Western bourgeoisie representing the beacon of Enlightenment - then you would expect that, after the victory in the Cold War of 1991, classical liberalism would be revived and would flourish in a new era of progress. That means not only Marx and Hegel were buried; David Ricardo must've also been buried.

4) Marx's theory of capital are being confirmed empirically each day, which became glaring after the 2008 crisis. No other bourgeois vulgar economics theory can predict crises in capitalism.

5) The very fact that the bourgeoisie - with all its weight - failed to bury Marx after almost 150 years of incessant censorship and propaganda (and Soviet self-sabotage) is evidence his theory is scientifically precise, as it withstands the test of time and can predict the future (as it predicted 2008, as it predicted 2020). Of the 8 known economists who predicted 2008 crisis, 5 were Marxists.

6) The postmodern school that claims to be the heir of Marxism in the West publicly put themselves as Post-Marxists, not as Marxists. That the far-right/alt-right call them "Marxists" (or "Cultural Marxists") doesn't change this objective reality. In fact, it put them, the alt-right, as the "word-spinners", not the Marxists themselves.

7) It doesn't add up that you must fight imbecility with imbecility. If Marx was an imbecile, there would be no reason for one and a half century-worth of generations of bourgeois economists to lower themselves to imbecility just for the sake of fighting an imbecile that died in the 19th Century.

8) Marx was a genius, the top of his class (of already brilliant students). He easily got his masters and Ph.D. - both with a specialization in logic. He would have a brilliant and prosperous career if he wasn't purged by the Kaiser.

9) All those previous points can be easily proven empirically because they are very well documented. Marx's entire work survived (even his personal letters). The entire debate is also very well documented. We also know the aftermath, which is also very well documented. In fact, the 19th Century in general is well-documented because it is a relatively recent epoch,because illiteracy of the masses was nearly universal, and because there was no democracy, so the bourgeois intellectuals had little feat to express their theories and opinion without fear of popular reprisal.

Posted by: vk | Aug 7 2020 14:32 utc | 100

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