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August 19, 2020

Democratic National Cringefest


The Onion @TheOnion - 19:55 UTC · Aug 18, 2020

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Upgraded To Full DNC Speaking Slot After Announcing Support For Iraq War



Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1 - 23:20 UTC · Aug 18, 2020

Breaking on @MSNBC: Colin Powell will be a featured speaker at the Democratic National Convention tonight.

Posted by b on August 19, 2020 at 3:17 UTC | Permalink


Even better, AOC used her one minute of DNC screen time to endorse Bernie.

Posted by: Roy G | Aug 19 2020 3:57 utc | 1

Thanks for the laugh, Bernhard.

CBC radio today had a sound bite from former Secretary of State Colin Powell, saying something like "I grew up in the South Bronx and Joseph Biden grew up in Scranton, where his parents gave him the same values."

So Powell is all in for Biden, not surprising since they are both members of the Democratic Party.

Great picture too, I remember all too well the absolute absurdity of the stunts and media events following the September 11, 2001 thing. People I know were there in downtown NYC, unfortunately my friend and colleague was in one of the towers and did not make it out, leaving her husband and two children behind.

The following years were only made tolerable by David Rees's comics as he lampooned, amongst many other horrors, the dropping of aid packages, yellow, and cluster bombs, also yellow, on Afghanistan. Here's a link to Get Your War On, his compilation of those comics.

Those 2 years in New York and I suppose the rest of the world opened our eyes to the reality of what the United States of America was capable of.

Powell with his vial of "anthrax" at the United Nations was but one example of the avalanche of propaganda that ensued.

To keep this post short I'll simply state that the current mediated world did not create itself.

Posted by: jonku | Aug 19 2020 4:11 utc | 2

Believing in any of the 500 or so stooges residing in the palaces of congress and senate is to believe the puppet show dolls are moving of their own accord.
This woman has a Netflix move made of her initial stages of canvasing to get elected to the congress AND it is being shown free on u-tube. Or the false prophets like Bernie Sanders and Trumps of the show for creating the false dichotomy needed for the con to be a bit believable.
The other made-up heroes are war veterans who do not say the actual truth about the reasons for US wars overseas.
None are genuine.
A scripted kabuki theater for the gullible with hero figures and antagonists without a shred of truth .
A hundred years from now we perhaps shall see the names of the real and the walk-by players!

Posted by: Jaf | Aug 19 2020 4:20 utc | 3

Welcome to "peaceful" side of the American MIC-approved Warmongering Shit Sandwich. Enjoy your stay.

Posted by: J W | Aug 19 2020 4:23 utc | 4

Check out this misinfo from an article praising cigar Bill's appearance at the laugh-fest in the NYT

"A CBS News poll found that 56 percent of Democrats wanted to hear Mr. Clinton speak, while 63 percent wanted to hear from Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the New York Democrat and vanguard of the emerging left wing.

“It’s been 25 years since he’s been president,” said Patti Solis Doyle, Hillary Clinton’s first campaign manager in 2008. “He ran much more as a conservative; he governed much more as a conservative. The party now has moved further left than it has ever been.

Stage direction CANNED LAUGHTER.

Posted by: John Lee | Aug 19 2020 4:43 utc | 5

John Lee

Probably best not have them both on the same stage to speak. Clinton might mistake Cortez for a secretary.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2020 4:53 utc | 6

@ Roy G #1

So Youtube(=Google) allows the Democrats free campaign publicity (through CNN) but not the Republicans? Important in 2020 because Covid-19 limits conventions to virtual mainly.

Posted by: Antonym | Aug 19 2020 5:03 utc | 7

There has never been a real choice in the American elections. Whatever one can say against the DNC line-ups, one can say much more against the other side as well. Of course the whole show, on both sides, is a cringfest. By the way have you heard that the couple pointing guns at protesters are scheduled to speak at RNC? Now that is a true cringfest. Happy day to everyone!

Posted by: Steve | Aug 19 2020 5:17 utc | 8

Antonym 7

That must be Chinese interference. The US propaganda operation that is called intelligence says China is backing sleepy Joe.
But don't worry, the Russians are backing Trump so they'll get him on youtube ... so as long as the Iranians don't take youtube down so no one becomes pres.

That'd be a pain. Everyone standing around waiting for the Iranians to put youtube back on so they could have an election.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2020 5:29 utc | 9

And George W Bush gives the nomination speech.

With Dick Cheney, Tony Blair and Victoria Nuland giving soaring vocal back-ups. The Extremes.

Posted by: johnf | Aug 19 2020 5:39 utc | 10

The best shit show the cult of global private finance can bring you.

At the top of this posting it reads "Democratic National Cringefest" but the URL has the title as "not-biden".

And today Trump pardoned Susan B Anthony for getting arrested for voting in 1872 which now proves wrong my contention that Trump has not done anything humanistically positive....even if politically timed and out of character with Trump's core values.

Wake me if anyone at these Cringefest's ever talks about making finance a public utility in the West.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 19 2020 5:42 utc | 11

So when will the DNC feature Henry Kissinger as a special guest speaker?

Posted by: Jen | Aug 19 2020 6:20 utc | 12


Kissinger is a bit tied up with meetings with Don. Kissinger being Jewish and Zionist ... yeah. Well we all know the Iran deal was no good...

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2020 6:27 utc | 13

Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2020 4:53 utc | 6
That would have been worth watching 3 or 4 conventions back, ole Bill woulda forced her mouth down onto his old fella right up there on the stage, but if he saw AOC onstage this year he would get onto his PA straight away "I told you no more old hags in the typing pool".

Posted by: John Lee | Aug 19 2020 6:41 utc | 14

Posted by: J W | Aug 19 2020 4:23 utc | 4

I offer Caitlin Johnstone's latest assessment of the Unites States election process:

"It’s not normal for a civilization to be dominated by plutocrats and secretive government agencies and to only get offered the choice between two authoritarian corporate warmongers in a pretend election to a position of leadership that is almost entirely fake."

Posted by: One Too Many | Aug 19 2020 6:43 utc | 15

Let's not forget Cardi "wet ass pussy" B and Joe "mushy ass brain" Biden's history making interview...

The Democrats have their heads so far up their tukas i feel once again the majority of Americans will go for the FU vote and give Trump another 4 years. At least a punch in the face feels more honourable that a kick in the nuts somehow, and that is all the Dems are offering by backing an old bumbling warmonger grandpa and another corporate corporate puppet who made a career of jailing the poor, in a year where the entire country rose up against the very system she embodies... talk about a tone deaf response and totally missing the zeitgeist.

Rome fell to a disorganised bunch of heathens from the East. The US is contending with the two most competent and accomplished world leaders of the 21st century: Xi and Putin. Whether it's more of Trump or even if Biden gets in, it is still win-win for China and Russia with whoever gets elected. Johan Galtung's prediction of a 2020 end to the US empire has never felt closer to the mark.

Posted by: Et Tu | Aug 19 2020 8:07 utc | 16

Posted by: One Too Many | Aug 19 2020 6:43 utc | 15

Caitlin Johnstone should be declared a national treasure...


Posted by: A.L. | Aug 19 2020 9:37 utc | 17

@16 Et Tu: You got something against grandfathers? No but seriously. Harris is an excellent choice because the GOP is running a law-and-order campaign to distract from the economic situation and Trump's incompetence and lack of compassion, and Harris is a law-and-order candidate, with the extra plusses of being a woman and of color... Sonny.

Posted by: Gene Poole | Aug 19 2020 10:47 utc | 18

NYT degenerates into a gossip magazine for girls, publish a "best and worse moments" on the Democrat Convention:

Democratic Convention: Best and Worst Moments of Night 2

It's not every time we can see the whole circus assembled. Enjoy the reading.

Posted by: vk | Aug 19 2020 11:26 utc | 19

Off-topic I know, but this news would be just as hilarious if it weren't real: in Canada, Justin Bieber Trudeau has just made Chrystia Freeland Finance Minister as well as Deputy Prime Minister.

Now when the Banderites say "Give us money and cookies!", they know who to turn to now.

Posted by: Hor, Jennifer | Aug 19 2020 12:03 utc | 20

Don't be coy, b, I'd like to hear what YOU think.

Posted by: jadan | Aug 19 2020 12:16 utc | 21

AOC lives in two universes at once.

This headline from Reuters front page says:
Democrats nominate Joe Biden for president, vowing to end Trump 'chaos'

Unless the article is updated it makes no mention whatsoever of AOC, however the front page of Reuters, has scrolling pictures including
one of AOC, directly under the headline.

The linked article makes makes no mention of AOC

If you read this article however at Zerohedge AOC dissed the DNC and Biden by not mentioning them in her convention speech.

AOC Snubs Biden, DNC During 90-Second Speech Nominating Bernie Sanders

So, AOC didn't mention Biden nor the DNC and Reuters returned the favor by not mentioning AOC (they did mislead though by putting her
picture under a headline that suggested the opposite).

Posted by: librul | Aug 19 2020 12:47 utc | 22

Yes-yes, I agree, it's all a load of forced crap.

But I sure would like to read your solution even at the 11th hour.

Trump is trying to permanently defraud Palestinians of their land and rights, he's initiating Cold War with China, trying to regime-change Venezuela while he destroys its economy and tries to steal its oil and strangles Iran's economy, assassinates its best general and future leader as he continues his obssesive quest towards holy war for Israel. And I won't even mention his absolute depraved dereliction on Covid-19 and his abject, vengeful gassing of protesters to get a photo-op with a Bible he never owned, opened or read.

Oh but he's real cozy with Putin and that's all that matters here.

Posted by: Circe | Aug 19 2020 13:30 utc | 23

Sharon Stone, the American actress made famous by crossing/uncrossing her legs in Basic Instinct, is very upset that unmasked people in Montana are murdering her sister, who fled to our lovely state in March.

one of the only things we can do to stop all this is VOTE FOR JOE AND KAMALA!

in her desperate Instagram plea notable for her lack of makeup, Stone describes her traumas, like how the Governor of Montana is not returning her calls, before getting to the meat of the issue:

Stone pleaded with viewers to use their vote to make a change. “The only thing that’s going to change this is if you vote. And if you vote for Biden and if you vote for Kamala Harris,” she said. “And the reason that’s going to happen is because with women in power, we will fight for our families. We will fight for people to live and we will fight for people to get tested. Because the only countries that are doing well with COVID are the ones with women in leadership.”

Montana is a state of about a million people. it's a relatively poor state with a big aging population. the threats we are facing are the narcissistic vectors of wealth and entitlement flooding our state to snatch up the illusion of safety they assume is waiting for them in Big Sky Country. Stone's sister says as much:

“This is us. March 13. Drove to our paradise in Montana,” Kelly wrote. “We thought covid wouldn’t and couldn’t find us. No shopping, no parties, barely saw a human. Now fighting for a don’t want covid.”

the celebrities who disdain Trump are still jet-setting around to posh resorts like Paws Up Ranch, just north of where I live, to infect the help while they glamp (glamour + camping = glamping).

fuck these people, fuck JoMala, and fuck the two party charade too many of YOU are still investing your faith in.

Posted by: lizard | Aug 19 2020 13:30 utc | 24

All that voters in the USA can do is to choose between the candidates who are offered. A vote for a third-party will most likely help Trump more than Biden.

Cringe and whine all you want, but if you still think that Trump/Pence is the better choice over Biden/Harris, then there is not much else I can say to you.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Aug 19 2020 13:46 utc | 25

circe, trump is not "cozy with putin". and saddam didn't have wmd's when we invaded. you have some of the same people promoting both those lies, though.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 19 2020 13:54 utc | 26

ralphieboy biden will probably have people around him that will be allowed to handle the virus better, but that's it. if you think biden is a better choice on just about any other front you're deluding yourself. my personal metric is "which asshole is less likely to get me killed in the next 4 years", and it still isn't a clear choice.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 19 2020 13:57 utc | 27

If AOC had put as much effort into Bernie's campaign instead of just going through the motions as she did last night nominating him to get the progressive mantle and torch, we wouldn't be looking at another choice between the not so lesser evil and the greater evil. I don't think she ever wanted Bernie to win. It's clear she wants to be the first Progressive leader.

Bernie never stood a chance with all the sabotage and knives pointed at him and now he's looking like the traitor.

It's a very sad ending for him.

Posted by: Circe | Aug 19 2020 14:08 utc | 28


"less likely to get me killed in the next 4 years" is the only choice left to us right now.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Aug 19 2020 14:53 utc | 29

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2020 4:53 utc | 6

You win the thread - no matter how long the thread gets.

Posted by: One Too Many | Aug 19 2020 6:43 utc | 15 Caitlin Johnstone's: "It’s not normal for a civilization to be dominated by plutocrats and secretive government agencies and to only get offered the choice between two authoritarian corporate warmongers in a pretend election to a position of leadership that is almost entirely fake."

Oh, yes, it is normal. What version of history has she read? Maybe in the first couple decades of the US after the Founding, but that's about it. And even then, Adams suspended habaeus corpus shortly... Plutocrats and secret agencies are definitely the historical norm at least from Babylonia on...

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Aug 19 2020 15:10 utc | 30

Pompeo was busy, he'll be invited next time.

Posted by: snow_watcher | Aug 19 2020 15:11 utc | 31

Repugs Dims
Pepsi Pepsi Lite

Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Aug 19 2020 15:30 utc | 32

The conservative movement is running on the fumes of a culture war they've already lost. The Democrats, the oldest bourgeois party in America and now the party with the biggest tent, has once again taken all policy ground from them. What the Republicans have now is sentimental attachment to a number of symbols which are now all but stripped of their content. What they are attached to is a nostalgic cultural atmosphere and a "way of life," the latter of which is not going anywhere (at least for those who choose to live it) but which they insist is on the brink of extinction as secularism comes to once again supplant Christianity as the default civic posture.

The Republicans, being such a strictly culturally-focused party, have little in the way of economic analysis beyond a blind insistence on the sanctity of private property (a stance which led to far right "libertarian" opposition to the Civil Rights Act). They are unable to see how their cultural shibboleths vaporize in the face of economic development and growth. While sometimes they manage to point to real causes of the dissolution (on the aggregate) of the nuclear family and so on, such as the entry of both spouses into the workforce, they are unable to turn back the clock, to reverse the entropy that the operation of "free markets" has generated without sacrificing the economic basis they love so much (private property and its sanctity).

The RNC will be as big a shit show as the DNC, and it will be completely sincere and completely lacking in ironic tone. Whereas the Democrats at least made some room for their left flank, there is no longer a left flank of the Republican party to speak of within the party itself. What I think we're witnessing is the Republican party in a slow dissolution of its current form, with the 2016 election being its violent death rattle. If the RNC is as embarrassing as I imagine it will be given their speaker invites, it may represent the final gasps of life of the conservative movement before its reconstitution into a straightforward nationalist party stripped of the "free market" rhetoric, and this exists now in embryonic form. The future of the Republican Party is Tom Cotton's authoritarian nationalism and the cronyism of the Trump family and their executive branch accomplices.

Posted by: fnord | Aug 19 2020 15:48 utc | 33

Posted by: One Too Many | Aug 19 2020 6:43 utc | 15 Caitlin Johnstone's: "It’s not normal for a civilization to be dominated by plutocrats and secretive government agencies and to only get offered the choice between two authoritarian corporate warmongers in a pretend election to a position of leadership that is almost entirely fake."

The abnormality of it is found in its psychology.. what is not moral or normal is for the governed to sit on their fat asses and beg the abnormal for more, more more more more please more.. .feels so good.. more more more please more.

Posted by: snake | Aug 19 2020 16:40 utc | 34

@ ralphieboy | Aug 19 2020 13:46 utc | 25..... but trump is going to run on law and order, and claim the dems supported all the local insurrection in places like seattle, portland and etc. etc.... i think a lot of people will buy into that... and i agree with @27 pretzelattack.. it is very hard to tell much difference between them all..

Posted by: james | Aug 19 2020 16:55 utc | 35

The silver lining to a second Trump win would be watching crazy Democrats go Rabidly Crazy.

ha HA!

(Green Voter, here)


I posted this years ago and nothing has changed.

A one-word summary of Democrats and Republicans.

Republicans are Jerks

Democrats are crazy

Posted by: librul | Aug 19 2020 17:22 utc | 36

I don't think that I am alone in waiting for Bernhard's reaction to the Senate Intelligence Committee's conclusion that there was indeed significant collusion between the Trump Campaign and Russia in the 2016 election. Are we being gaslighted again, or were the Russiagaters right all along? It is worth noting that this committee is under Republican control.

Posted by: Rob | Aug 19 2020 17:31 utc | 37

I watched none of it; and as this article reports, I didn't miss anything of importance. This electoral map was posted on 8/15 and has Ds at 278 Rs at 185. 538 shows national polls have Biden ahead 51.3% to 42.8% with the gap beginning to widen in early June. I have no reason to vote for either as the only thing they can promise common folk is more economic decline and hardship imposed by the Neoliberal Parasites ruining the nation from within.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 19 2020 17:38 utc | 38

Circe @23: "But I sure would like to read your solution even at the 11th hour."

The solution is to not reward the Democrats for screwing you.

You sounded almost "woke" for real a couple months ago, but I am a cynic and I predicted that you would be back shilling for whatever worthless scum shit sandwich the Dems ended up offering.

I honestly derive no joy from being right about these things.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 19 2020 17:42 utc | 39

Here's what we're selling.

It's not what you want.

Too bad.

And now a word from our sponsors!

A stiff stout and a bowl weren't enough to anesthetize me. It was still painful.

I think that I shall never see,
A show as painful as the DNC

Posted by: vinnieoh | Aug 19 2020 17:48 utc | 40

Rob @37

You're being gaslighted all the time.

"It is worth noting that this committee is under Republican control."

Not really. Convincing you that there is some meaningful difference who controls the committee is part of the gaslighting.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 19 2020 17:49 utc | 41

@35 james

Wtf are you talking about saying "Trump will claim..." left-urban centers were left to riot by their left governments?

They fucking were, James. THEY FUCKING WERE!

You Canadians are fucking clueless.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 19 2020 18:05 utc | 42

Gene Poole @18: "Harris is an excellent choice because the GOP is running a law-and-order campaign to distract from the economic situation and Trump's incompetence and lack of compassion, and Harris is a law-and-order candidate..."

So what you're saying is that you think the Democrats will win because they are running as Republicans? The left will have to vote for them because they have no choice, and the "deplorables" will vote for them because the Dems are being what they think the right wants?

You know, they tried that before. 2016, to be exact.

Since the misnamed "intelligence community" is in for the Dems, and since the CIA and deep State Department are skilled with scamming elections in other places like Bolivia and Honduras, we can expect the paperless electronic voting machines are already configured to favor Biden. After all, they don't trust the voters and don't want to take a chance on the election not going their way again.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 19 2020 18:06 utc | 43

@ Posted by: librul | Aug 19 2020 17:22 utc | 36

I have started calling them Republicrats and Demoplicans (I stole the names from somewhere).

In China you cannot change the party but you can change policies. In USA you can change the party but you cannot change policies!

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Aug 19 2020 18:18 utc | 44

Powell was wanting to run for president anyway so I guess after Biden loses Powell will be running with Don Rumsfeld on the democratic ticket.

As badly as they want to, I don't think they can pull off running Bush the idiot again. But don't count it out!

Posted by: dave | Aug 19 2020 18:19 utc | 45

"The United States its also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them." - Julius Nyerere (1922-1999), President of Tanzania

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Aug 19 2020 18:20 utc | 46

Are y'all sure that the DNC doesn't represent the more effective evil, being alligned with big tech, our traitorous IC, warmongering military brass, political identitarians?

DNC last night really hit on those "resistance boomer erogenous zones." What a perfectly apt description for the DNC's messaging. Still would infinitely rather have current POTUS. And it looks like I will get my wish.


Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 19 2020 18:25 utc | 47

As someone who got laid off during pandamic im super pissed our leaders couldn't extend Unemployment benefits, trump announced his executive order for the extra 400$ the states simply said they cant take the money becuse of legal bs. The treasury dept made the money available but states responded with "our computer systems cant handle it" what the hell are they talking about. If billions are made available for wall street they dont worry about the legality, they just take it. There computer system sure had no problem taking money. Im willing to go out and protest about the lack of help the government is giving the unemployed but there is none. BLM is The only protest in town. Im staring to think our elites wanted it that way. Protest anything u want but not the money

Posted by: Bob | Aug 19 2020 18:31 utc | 48

I live in usa and i see no excitement for biden and Kamala. Even peoples hatred for trump wont get them to vote. Trump still has his crazys who think he can do no wrong and his own party is sabotaging him. The thing about Americans is they wont admit that they where fooled so trumps voters will double down and vote for him again. But with this mail in vote stuff who knows. Its never been done before

Posted by: Bob | Aug 19 2020 18:39 utc | 49

Lizard @ 24

She is an actress and she is acting. Look at the photos she provides. That is a stage set. No reality in view at all.

When this all started every A-list celeb wanted to be known as testing positive. How many died? How many got very very sick? Biggest celeb death I can think of right now would be John Prine. He was in stage 4 lung cancer. After a little while it was stated his PCR test was not so much positive as ambiguous.


Posted by: oldhippie | Aug 19 2020 18:47 utc | 50

@William Gruff (41) You must have been asleep for the past 3 1/2 years, because the Republicans have been staunchly denying any collusion between the Trump Campaign and Russia, as have b and all the other anti-Russiagaters on this forum--myself included. I am waiting to hear responses from the likes of b, Aaron Mate', Caitlin Johnstone, Glenn Greenwald, Max Blumenthal et al. If the facts have indeed changed, then all of the above may have to change their opinions on the subject. My guess is that the facts have not changed, but I am not qualified to take a deep dive into the evidence that the Senate Committee feels justifies their conclusion.

Posted by: Rob | Aug 19 2020 18:47 utc | 51

@ NemesisCalling | Aug 19 2020 18:05 utc | 42.. i knew you would buy into it... don't let your white supremacist membership would be very untrump like...

Posted by: james | Aug 19 2020 19:14 utc | 52

Actually, after only a quick review of some of the news reports, it appears that the Senate Committee placed great importance on the "fact" that Russia was involved in the "hacking" of emails from the DNC. This suggests that the Committee relied on the same intelligence sources that fabricated the Russiagate scenario in the first place. I guess that the Republicans on the Committee have not kept up with revelations that there is no evidence of any such hacking. Hence, the Committee's conclusions are likely based on the same old disinformation and can be readily dismissed.

Posted by: Rob | Aug 19 2020 19:19 utc | 53

Rob @53: "Hence, the Committee's conclusions are likely based on the same old disinformation and can be readily dismissed."


The parties can differ on their posturing before the herds, but on policy important to the empire they are always in perfect lockstep. The "Russian hacking" nonsense is one of the most important pieces of disinformation to maintain from Russiagate, because when that narrative is lost then the SHTF. Then people start realizing "That means the emails really did leak instead of get hacked, and that means Seth Rich really was the leaker, and the 'intelligence community' knew that all along, and everyone from the local cops to the corporate mass media colluded to say Seth Rich's death was meaningless!"

The death of one person might not seem like such a big deal in the larger scheme of things, but that being the sordid reality behind a ludicrous multimedia farce that went on and on for years will really piss people off.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 19 2020 19:41 utc | 54

First thread I'm skipping.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 19 2020 20:35 utc | 55

No favoritism - second will be Republicans.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 19 2020 20:36 utc | 56

@ Circe

Bernie brought a knife to a gun fight—again . Reminds me of Bush Jnr's gaffe with "Fool me once..." In the end it's politics and the other side will always play dirty. Robespierre had it right: you must mix virtue with terror. With the Right you have to put it on the ground and make sure it's dead.

Posted by: Patroklos | Aug 19 2020 20:43 utc | 57

Dems are so un self aware, millennial lack of enthusiasm is a big problem and has there been a single speaker under the age of 50?

Why was Kerry, a loser of a vastly winnable election, given a prime time slot?

And according to RCP, Biden “lead” trending down not up

Harris did zip for him. No convention bump

Expect more Orange Man Bad from Superfly tonight


Posted by: Anunnaki | Aug 19 2020 21:44 utc | 58

Circe #28

Bernie never stood a chance with all the sabotage and knives pointed at him and now he's looking like the traitor.

Bernie betrayed all who invested trust and hope in his proposals and his socialist ticket. That is you and me and so many others.

At the very time when the people needed him to champion their needs in the face of this coronavirus, he walked away and backed the class enemy as did Tulsi. They endorsed Biden AND the current DNC agenda because they knew what that would look like. They pretended to strugle - they played their script to the end.

If ever there was anyone who could have run to win or simply to give greater momentum to change - then Bernie / Tulsi were the team to do it. Together they could start a reversal of oligarch plunder and warmongering impoverishment of the people of the USA. They wouldn't even leave a legacy of momentum for the cause of peace and prosperity for the people. They squandered the people's desperate investment in their hope for change.

They betrayed all that and now the DNC is crowing that have given nothing and are free to parade the AOC's of this world about the stage mouthing their collaboration, their weasel words, their compliance with these DNC and Democratic 'Socialist' thugs and their agenda.


Circe - you go ahead and vote for betrayal if you wish, I can't and never would.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 19 2020 22:18 utc | 59

Satire is dead isn't it? What a scary and confusing time to be alive.

Posted by: Hoyeru | Aug 19 2020 22:27 utc | 60

Did someone say "Powell" wants to be President.
Oh Lord, please no.
Its getting hard to keep a sense of humor about this shit show.
Maybe this is to take away our will to resist the vacine.

Posted by: jared | Aug 19 2020 23:16 utc | 61

@39 William Gruff

Maybe instead of blowing so much hot air you should go back to school and take a reading comprehension course.

I'm not shilling for Dems, bozo. I'm just asking for the alternative to the worst leader in modern and not-so-modern history, since the criticism of Dems here is well-known and frequent while inject me with orange bleach Trump gets away with selling off Palestine, pushing Iran to war, regime change hijinks in Venezuela and kissing MBSs fat ass while he decimated Yemen, not to mention gassing protesters for his bible photo-op and his depraved indifference to tens of thousands of Covid deaths. But rarely is he attacked except as Trump Administration.

I'm sick of your shilling for a sleazeball like Trump!

Posted by: Circe | Aug 20 2020 1:23 utc | 62

We are supposed to vote. But what if one cannot bring himself to vote either for the Orange man nor for a party that seeks and gets endorsement from someone who committed war crimes by initiating a war of aggression on false pretense?  As I have always said, the road to hell is paved with voting unconditionally for the “lesser” of the two evils.

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Aug 20 2020 1:32 utc | 63

Caption contest late entry :Powell "When I asked Negroponte for a bump for this presentation he gave this eight-ball here of house specialty, no talc, imported Oblivion coke here it's equal to five or more nuclear bombs ,okay, or enough anthrax to change a Senator's mind about Liberty in these necessarily uncertain times; or enough coke to change a Representative's mind ,even. We've done the math...They don't hate us for our hypocrazies. So, like okay, wait..."

A. O-Cortez speaks to a particular audience and it's not me or you. (liberated babes, =incorrect thot?). All social mammals are matriarchal. Domestic arts are civilization, and that's all about Mama's cooking. Trump should pull a nixonian ERA and take her on as an Apprentice for her Wing.
Is the World invested in this puppet-show?

Posted by: failure o imaginthat | Aug 20 2020 2:22 utc | 64

"Oh but he's real cozy with Putin and that's all that matters here."

This is the only reading comprehension I need to know that Gruff is correct.

Trump isn't cozy with Putin, anybody with a shred of logic can figure that one out. Trump=Putin=Bibi is the standard Zionist spin, and a pretty certain tell as to what one's position is regardless of how often one shrieks they are not a Zionist.

Posted by: Hassaan | Aug 20 2020 2:26 utc | 65

Onion is much more reliable news source than the corporate swill.

Posted by: sbin | Aug 20 2020 2:43 utc | 66

Nathan Mulcahy @Aug20 1:32 #63

“lesser” of the two evils.

There is no "greater" or "lesser" evil. They are they same evil. With the same policy inclinations in different guises.

There is only greater and lesser fools that vote for these evils. The lesser fool thinks: the system may be corrupt, but that works for me. The greater fool thinks: the system is corrupt but my vote can help change that.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 20 2020 2:56 utc | 67

Jimmy sums it up yet again.
sleazy don is a better pick than creepy joe - why? Because if the dims keep losing, the corporates worrying over bottom lines in the post covid zeitgeist will figure "why bother, apart from the fact they are so crooked, even I don't wanna get in the same room as them, why throw money at such losers?" When no dollars come in they will have no choice but to grow policies voters want.

Posted by: John Lee | Aug 20 2020 8:23 utc | 68

If only they could run a convention like they traffic kids

Posted by: Jezabeel | Aug 20 2020 9:01 utc | 69

Circe @62

You are a liar of the worst sort: The kind that lies to themselves. I provided you the alternative, which is to "fix" the Dems (impossible, but you are still too naive to realize that yet) or build a new political party. You ignore that because it is not the answer you are fishing for. What you are obviously fishing for is a justification for voting for Biden, but there are no such justifications. You want someone else to tell you to vote for Biden so that afterwards you can whine "It isn't MY fault! Everybody else was doing the same thing!"

The worst thing you can do right now is vote Democrat because that perpetuates your enslavement to the shitshow. You foolishly imagine that you will work towards fixing things so that you don't have to eat another shit sandwich in 2024, but you think that you will start that work after you eat this shit sandwich in November. If you were honest with yourself you would know that you will not fix the Dems before 2024 any more than you did for 2020. You've already wasted four years after they forced the Clinton shit sandwich on you, yet here you are again trying to work yourself up to eating another one. You eat this one and in 2024 they will have another one for you to eat, and another in 2028, and so on. The shit sandwiches will never end until you stop eating them.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 20 2020 14:05 utc | 70

Max Keiser makes predictions in regard to AOC (year and a half ago)

Gruff wrote:
|You've already wasted four years after they forced the Clinton shit sandwich on you, yet here you are again trying to work yourself up to eating another one"

That is correct. The best thing that can happen in this election would be for trump to win in a huge landslide. That would wake people like Circe up to the reality of how bad the Democrats are. But they won't let that happen. Trump will squeak by again and that will make the morons to continue to ignore reality and look for excuses again (stupid stuff like Russia helped Trump)

Posted by: jinn | Aug 20 2020 15:50 utc | 71

jinn @71

Unfortunately, at this point that is indeed the best possible outcome. It is much too late for any sort of real alternative to be organized for November now. Even more unfortunate is that those who invest in the humiliation of eating the Democrats' shit sandwich this year will then stick with the Dems for another four years in the hopes of somehow making that investment mean something. The only way out of that cycle is to refuse the shit sandwich now.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 20 2020 17:01 utc | 72

Please discuss Biden's role in the 2014 American coup in Ukraine, explained here:

Posted by: Carlton Meyer | Aug 21 2020 2:55 utc | 73

I have to blame Hillary for the Trump nightmare. She was such a terrible Secretary of State and so justifiably disliked across the political spectrum that people either stayed home or voted with outrage to damn the system with Trump.

We have lived the nightmare and nothing was accomplished with this self-flagellation.

People today are not brave enough or smart enough or deeply committed enough to create meaningful change.

The pandemic hasn't changed people either; it just emboldened them to be reckless and exploit the system.

There is no self-discipline, no responsibility and too much selfishness.

I have never been so cynical and pessimistic about the future in my life as I am at this time.

Posted by: Circe | Aug 21 2020 5:00 utc | 74

Sadly, Trump must be defeated dspite the DNC's best efforts to make Biden lose.

Biden must be elected in spite of, and to actually to spite the DNC, whose corporate sponsors prefer Trump.

A Trump win won't do anything to move any future election leftward from the abyss.

DNC never learns they can only be infiltrated and exposed and pressured. Losing is the best cover for what the corporate sponsors want. Nor can DNC be replaced, they've "owned" the lefter side for over 200 years with a few exceptions. The other side has been replaced and mutated at least once to better follow extreme capitalist principles.

Trump can't be exposed for doing dastardly things, since that's the religion of RNC anyway, and everyone follows in lock step.

Biden has appeareances to keep, and therefore is more subject to exposure and pressure in the public interest.

Posted by: Charles Peterson | Aug 21 2020 6:53 utc | 75

Below is a quote from a ZH post about the latest Jimmy Dore show about the DNC and Biden

"Joe Biden's foreign policy - his entire career - is consistently imperialist," Dore began, after presenting a clip of John Kerry attacking Trump's foreign policy. Kerry, it should be noted, has long been on record as defending his 'yes' vote on the Iraq war.

"Joe Biden voted for the Iraq War. Not only did he vote for it, he was one of the most vocal and active advocates for the Iraq War... Under Joe Biden we did Libya, Yemen, and Syria... he took Bush's two wars and turned them into seven wars."

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 21 2020 16:50 utc | 76

Planet America,, included a new Trumpism in Friday night's Fireside Chat edition. He thinks his detractors should blame Obama & Biden for the Trump Presidency...

"President Obama did not do a good job. And the reason I'm here is because of President Obama and Joe Biden. Because if they did a good job I wouldn't be here. And probably, if they did do a good job I wouldn't have even run. I would have been happy.
I enjoyed my previous life very much. But they did such a bad job that I stand before you as President."

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 22 2020 6:38 utc | 77

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