I’m the sociopath whisperer this means that Pompeo and the other Neocons really believe that the combined total of Russia and China’s nuclear arsenal cannot exceed the U.S. total. Neocons really believe that the forces of evil are a unified entity against the sole force of good in the world which is the United States. The idea that Russia and China are normal countries with their own interest does not even cross what passes for their minds.

Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Jul 25 2020 13:54 utc | 4

In other news (According to Plumpeo) PLA Marines will be storming shores across the globe quite soon!
It is however a good idea to footnote his comments with the ‘We lied, cheated, stole’ (and murdered) addendum….

Posted by: Chevrus | Jul 25 2020 13:58 utc | 6

Well for a fundies like Pompeo or Pence, nuclear confrontations are a win-win. Worst case they get to go to heaven a little sooner.

Posted by: ptb | Jul 25 2020 14:02 utc | 8

I don’t think it gets enough mention just how dangerous Pompeo is to this entire planet. I’ve not seen a more hostile Secretary of State. I get Bolton was a maniac, but Pompeo seems even more insane. Trump doomed his presidency by surrounding himself with the most neocon cabinet I have ever seen. Everyone should really be grateful this mess of an administration hasn’t started a nuclear war by now

Posted by: DannyC | Jul 25 2020 14:25 utc | 10

I am only done with the Govenor’s introduction and I have this
”
It was President Nixon’s vision, determination, and courage that opened China to America and to the Western world. As president and for the rest of his life, Richard Nixon worked to build a relationship with China based upon mutual benefits and obligations that respected America’s bedrock national interests.
”
Remember again folks that we don’t get to discuss private/public finance directly and have to BS around it with words like “….obligations that respected America’s bedrock national interests.”
So China has not opened up its banking system to the West like this accusation is insinuating. It would be interesting to read the exact words of agreements supporting the “obligations that respected America’s bedrock national interests.” claims.
More when I read the Pompeo part which will take fortitude.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 25 2020 15:09 utc | 12

Personally; I think Sec. Pompeo is a pale copy of Avigdor Leiberman

Posted by: Michele Baillie | Jul 25 2020 15:21 utc | 14

Why are you all joking? It’s going to happen:
To safeguard national security, it is time for China to build up nuclear deterrent
This is from May 2020, from the editor-in-chief of the Global Times (the extraofficial Chinese government tabloid). The goal, as the editor states, is to have at least 1,000 operational nukes “in a short time span”.
It is going to happen. Westerners who think China will only watch while its BRI stands in Central Asia as a sitting duck for the American “tactical nukes” are delusional.
—
On other related news, this interview strengthens my view that the European Peninsula will enter in a long period of decline, for the benefit of Australia:
US-Proposed Anti-China Coalition Exposes Rivalry Potentially More Dangerous Than Cold War

“European countries will resist cooperating. The American concern for China is primarily about the rise of China in East Asia, and the European countries have very little at stake in the security developments in East Asia. They are more concerned about European affairs and managing relations with Russia, which have deteriorated recent years. Secondly, they are more concerned with helping their own economies by taking advantage of the growth of China’s domestic economy for their exports,” Ross told Sputnik.
[…]
“Germany is really the crucial factor. Germany will try to maintain a certain neutrality but that’s going to become increasingly difficult in the years to come,” Cafruny said.

I disagree Germany is/will be a factor, but I agree its position will “become increasingly difficult in the years to come”. Make it a century.
Long story short, I expect the European Peninsula to be peripherized in the next century. The Pacific will become the next center of human civilization, in substitution to the North Atlantic.
The interviewees also talk about how this anti-China coalition could take shape. My view is this: it is not difficult to find a country that is or can be anti-China (you can appeal to racism, Christianism and other cultural-ideological narratives to ultimately make a country anti-China). The problem is in the fact that the USA simply doesn’t have the resources to make them unconditional American allies for the long term (as was the case with post-war Western Europe and Japan). As a result, the USA is having to resort more and more on negative pressure (bribe local elites, constant regime change, constant black ops, civil war instigation etc.) to keep those countries in its sphere. The problem with this tactic is that it is not as effective as the “carrot+big stick” tactic.
But China’s greatest triumph is, for sure, the fact that it has the larges proletarian class in the world, ruled under a socialist system. It is the proletarian class, and no other, which will make the revolution of our times. It is only the proletarian class who has the enlightenment necessary to keep human civilization moving forward in our times. And the USA (and the West) is de-proletarianizing, it is becoming a petit-bourgeoisie nation, a reactionary small and medium business-owners and self-employed “liberal professionals”. It is the West – and not China – that is becoming a “Frankenstein”.

Posted by: vk | Jul 25 2020 15:30 utc | 16

I read Pompeo’s speech carefully and his statement “We’ve called on China to conform its nuclear capabilities to the strategic realities of our time.” is bizarre no matter how one tries to fit it in.
Over-all the speech is totally nuts. I am sure that the CCP is widely distributing this speech throughout China. Especially the section where he brags that the Hong Kong rioters were proudly carrying the US national flag during their demonstrations. I have visited China a number of times over the past 40 years and have met not only party members but numerous others. They all have a strong sense of being Chinese that is rooted in 2000 years of their cultural history. They see that modern China is part of that tradition. There is absolutely no way that they would accept US patriotic symbols as a substitute for their own rich history.
Pompeo must know this. After-all his audience is not the people of China, but the rubes in the US he wants to whip up into a war fever against China.

Posted by: ToivoS | Jul 25 2020 15:53 utc | 18

So, US and Russia still have basically 87% of all nukes on the planet…

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Jul 25 2020 15:59 utc | 20

@vk 16
The problem is in the fact that the USA simply doesn’t have the resources to make them unconditional American allies for the long term (as was the case with post-war Western Europe and Japan). As a result, the USA is having to resort more and more on negative pressure
Yes, I agree that is the central issue at the moment. The corollary problem is that the methods of “negative pressure” are well developed and can genuinely screw up the world. While this is actually obvious to most of the world population, the difficulty is how a third country should do anything in a way that doesn’t result in the country becoming a proxy battleground.

Posted by: ptb | Jul 25 2020 16:36 utc | 22

Lots of denunciation of Pompeo here – but Pompeo is just the leading tip of the whole corrupt and brutal, ferocious, savage, violent, dangerous, ruthless, remorseless, merciless, heartless, callous, cruel, harsh, cold-blooded, inhuman, barbarous, brutish, bestial, bloodthirsty, bloody, fiendish, sadistic, monstrous, villainous, murderous, homicidal, heinous, atrocious, diabolical US political establishment. Obama, Clinton, Bush I and II, Reagan, Carter and all their cronies including the staff of the Pentagon, the CIA, FBI, NSA and other assorted acronymics are, as someone above said “nuts”. You have to go all the way back to Kennedy or maybe even Eisenhower to find a President who had some grasp of basic decency and morality (and even they were no benevolent angels). So calling out the latest incarnation is stupid. The whole lot, Democrat and Republican and etc., has to go. The USA needs a completely new political system.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jul 25 2020 16:48 utc | 24

@Tiovos 18
“…his audience is not the people of China, but the rubes in the US he wants to whip up into a war fever against China.”
EXACTLY.
If you lived near Los Alamos, you would see how earnest this war effort is. AS a son of a paper clip “scientist”, I am well aware of how demagogues are married to an all or nothing strategy, preferring to commit suicide rather than not at least try for the “BIG GAIN.” In either case, it is indeed a “win-win”, achieving a place in history, what seems to drive all narcissists? And what makes this so dangerous. Nuclear bombs are not really controlled by the “atomic football briefcase”, a situation that makes Pompeous statement (first in class at West Point) all the more dangerous.
As Daniel Ellsberg has made clear

“The “nuclear football” carried by an aide near the US President at all times is primarily a piece of political theater, a hoax, to keep the public ignorant of the real problems of nuclear command and control”.

Posted by: erichwwk | Jul 25 2020 17:00 utc | 26

Rob @Jul25 17:09 #27

I cannot, for the life of me, fathom what he means by this statement regarding China’s nuclear capabilities.

LOL. See my comment @Jul25 16:47 #23.
!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 25 2020 17:13 utc | 28

Rob:
see my #26
also:
To safeguard national security, it is time for China to build up nuclear deterrent
By Hu Xijin Source:Global Times Published: 2020/5/9
U.S.-Proposed Anti-China Coalition Exposes Rivalry Potentially More Dangerous Than Cold War- Sputnik News July 25, 2020
Is the United States a Failing State? A Failed State?
by Richard Falk July 22, 2020

Whether the BLM leadership of a movement alternative is robust and comprehensive enough to end American freefall will become clearer in coming months.

Posted by: erichwwk | Jul 25 2020 17:30 utc | 30

Pompeo is goading China to divert scarce resources to produce weapons it doesn’t need. For those interested in China’s defense posture, try reading this 3MB White Paper from 29 July 2019, “China’s National Defense in the New Era”. For the really adventurous, here’s a link I’ve provided before to the index of all of China’s White Papers published in English. I rather doubt Pompeo’s read any of them. Taiwan’s reincorporation into China whenever that occurs will be the only time it might need to use its aircraft carriers as I doubt the very leaky US Navy will go to war with China over the Maritime Silk Road or South China Sea.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 25 2020 17:35 utc | 32

More examples of “negative pressure” over its provinces:
Elon Musk admits behind the coup in Bolivia on Twitter; goal was to get the lithium reserves for Tesla
And here’s how the USA co-opts the regional elites:
What Will Lula Do?
So, I reiterate the issue: the problem is not to convince a country to be anti-China, but to also convince it to be or stay pro-American.

Posted by: vk | Jul 25 2020 18:15 utc | 34

Aha! I have finally deciphered the true meaning of Pompeo’s cryptic message. As a devoted Christian end-timer, he feels that the more nuclear weapons there are in the world, the sooner will come the apocalypse and the second coming of you know who. It seems so obvious, but I wonder if the Chinese will be able to comprehend it, as it is a completely foreign and ludicrous concept to them.

Posted by: Rob | Jul 25 2020 18:57 utc | 36

@ 36 rob… that sounds about right…. like i said.. the usa is out to lunch… off the charts whacko….

Posted by: james | Jul 25 2020 19:04 utc | 38

The panic within the US government, be it State Dept. and CIA or Pentagon and NSC, or in the neocon committees of Congress and Senate, or the globalist Liberals in the NGOs and Think Tanks, is very evident. The lashing out with InfoWar propaganda, sanctions, and threats are real expressions of the fear, justifiable, that they feel.
The fear comes from hypersonic weapons the Russians have and the Chinese have, which the US has no chance of equaling for 3-5 years (if both adversaries stand pat, which they won’t and aren’t doing). The lead is there and will be there to Russia’s advantage for a decade or more.
This fear is doubled because the US has no leading edge missile defense system that can stop the missiles the Russians, Chinese, Iranians and North Koreans have. The Russians have the missile defense systems, and so do the Chinese, and soon the integrated network of S-400, S-300, radars and EW systems will cover North Korea and Iran, also. Russia is working with all of the neighbors to erect that dome over much of Eurasia. The S-500 coming at the end of the year will cover weapons from Space the US may have.
The US THAAD, Aegis, Aegis Ashore, Patriot and Iron Dome (Israeli)missile defenses do the US very little good against the weapons Russia, et al have.
The fear also comes from the leap in technology the Chinese have made in 5G, Big Data, AI, Space technologies, nanotechnologies, engineering, genetics, and all the sectors supported by STEM education and R&D. Not only are the Chinese patenting more inventions and discoveries and innovations, they have ten times as many young students, grad students and professionals as the US has. On many US patents are Chinese names, also. This knowledge race is already lost and the US knows it.
So, all that is left to the US to stop the pull-away by Russian military and Chinese science and technology is war——economic and limited kinetic war.
The trade war, tariffs and rebalancing of the trade deficit has no hope of working.
Now, the US is using market denial to China’s biggest corporations, not only Huawei and ZTE. TikTok, Aliexpress, Alibaba, WeChat, Weibo, Baidu are all under attack to keep them out of the largest markets of the world.
The US cannot compete with Russia and China. Thus, full spectrum panic.
Global Dominance is gone for the US.
All that is left is fear and anxiety.

Posted by: Red Ryder | Jul 25 2020 19:21 utc | 40

juliannia@9
I deeply appreciate your post.Thank you

Posted by: migueljose | Jul 25 2020 19:29 utc | 42

Now, the US is using market denial to China’s biggest corporations, not only Huawei and ZTE. TikTok, Aliexpress, Alibaba, WeChat, Weibo, Baidu are all under attack to keep them out of the largest markets of the world.
Posted by: Red Ryder | Jul 25 2020 19:21 utc | 40
Won’t be for too much longer, and they know it.

Posted by: A.L. | Jul 25 2020 19:39 utc | 44

“Pompeo is goading China to divert scarce resources to produce weapons it doesn’t need.”
Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 25 2020 17:35 utc | 32
No he wasn’t it was a single throw away fear mongering line for general consumption that ‘ the evil untrustworthy CCP have unchecked nukes, mwwhaaa’ nonsense.

Posted by: O | Jul 25 2020 19:48 utc | 46

Are these estimates credible? For example, given Israel’s secrecy about its WMD program, isn’t the estimate of its stockpile guesstimates only? In 1986, when Vanunu revealed that Israel had a nuclear weapons program, it was estimated that it had enough plutonium for 150 nuclear bombs. So, how can one know with any measure of likelihood, let alone certainty, that it has stockpiled fewer bombs today than China, or that that it has stockpiled 90?

Posted by: arteesahn | Jul 25 2020 20:11 utc | 48

“We opened our arms to Chinese citizens, only to see the Chinese Communist Party exploit our free and open society. by PleaseBeleafMe @ 17.. Yes we Americans did open our arms to China, but it was not Americans that moved the culture, business and industry that kept America flush over to ancient China. The USA camouflaged its Oligarch handlers, masqueraded them as Americans in order to con the Chinese.
As a consequence of WWII. the oligarch assumed control of the USA. The USA governs America. But control of the USA, does not make the Oligarchs an American no matter the nation state they call home.
The Oligarch in control of the USA encouraged laws that forced Americans to allow the Oligarch to package America’s Industries and technical know-how, to deny Americans the lifestyle that made America great, and to ship in those crates marked monopoly(copyright and patent) on board, hands off, America’s industrial and technological might in transit to China.
The Oligarch left American jobless, industryless and in ruin and they arranged monopolies for themselves, that prevented restarting the businesses shipped to China.
But the Chinese ignored the monopoly laws and promoted independent development in China. Basically the Chinese managed to do an in-place conversion of their backward society and to make China a modern highly competitive society. They did this by adopting to Chinese use, the materials found in oligarch owned copyrights and patents.
I can find no reason to help the copyright or patent monopoly owners retrieve their investments in China, after all it was the monopoly owners that devastated America.

Posted by: snake | Jul 25 2020 20:25 utc | 50

@51 toivos -and as we saw in ww2 – the americans – the only ones to use nuclear weapons on people – are crazy enough to continue.. thus the dr. strangelove analogy..

Posted by: james | Jul 25 2020 20:55 utc | 52

karlof1@ 32
So further adherence to the ” spend themselves to collapse ” doctrine……

Posted by: Digital Spartacus | Jul 25 2020 20:58 utc | 54

Jen @54
The Trump Administration and previous ones are enforcing the orders of the International Banking Cabal which is becoming increasingly aggressive and lawless, as they perceive serious threats to their hegemony. There is very little ‘sovereignty’ left. All Western governments are given their marching orders according to their assigned functions, or else they will be punished. It has now become a ‘coalition of the unwilling.’ Watch what happens to Germany re: Nordstream 2, as they’re adamant about continuing the project to completion with Russia. Then there most likely will come “an offer you can’t refuse” accompanied by a major ‘terrorist’ event. IMO that will be the acid test of European determination to resist The Cabal’s edicts, and it’s doubtful Russia would be able take counteractive measures. These Banksters are monsters that will stop at nothing including the use of nukes (and bio-weapons, as we are currently experiencing).

Posted by: norecovery | Jul 25 2020 22:07 utc | 56

Red Rider: The Russians have the missile defense systems, and so do the Chinese, and soon the integrated network of S-400, S-300, radars and EW systems will cover North Korea and Iran, also.
The Syrian experience, and Saudi experience, and American experience in Iraq show that top-notch air defense systems are too expensive to cover wide areas. American systems cost about 2.5 billion each, Russian may be twice cheaper. But the effective range is much smaller that the range of the missiles because you need multiple radars to detect stealthy or land-hugging object.
Russians were under multiple attacks in Hmeimim and there it worked OK, in west-central Syria it worked about 90%, but the remaining missiles made some damage. The performance near Damascus is far from 100%.
Saudis could not defend all their far-flung facilities, nor could Americans in Iraq. Perhaps if Saudis did not waste so much funds on attacking Yemenis they could cover oil-producing eastern region, for sure there are hard choices here.
Similarly, if USA were genuinely paranoid, 200-300 systems could cover the envelope of 48 states, but then there would be little left to project forces abroad.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jul 25 2020 22:16 utc | 58

ToivoS 51
Russia’s new ABM missile launching. https://twitter.com/mod_russia/status/1135824445195587584
Once the missile is out of the silo it launches like a projectile from a reconciles rifle. Going by its range, it would have to be a large missile.
S-500s when they appear will likely be equipped with something like it. Then there is the lasers or energy weapons (new physics principles as Putin put it) Russia has already deployed.
It may not be that long before even ICBM’s cannot break through Russia’s defenses. On the other hand, I believe Russia is already deploying non nuclear Hypersonic glide missiles that can take out all US control centers.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 25 2020 22:30 utc | 60

I’m nominating the person who typed the transcript of Pompeo’s rant for the Nobel Prize for Irony. He/she documented every single blunder. I lost count of the number of sentences he messed up before he got to the end. There’s only one explanation for this sort of inelegant goofiness.
He’s too lazy/stupid to rehearse what he’s going to say until he gets it right. The uncertainty this lack of preparation causes leads to the speech being delivered in a state of mild panic. The result is that he’s distracted by thinking about what he’s going to say next instead of what he’s saying right now. i.e. he’s reckless, incompetent and unprofessional.
I’d bet $1000 that Trump laughed himself to sleep that night.
If this is the best The Swamp can do, then their Glory Days are well and truly behind them.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 25 2020 22:36 utc | 62

Pompeo: “We know too that doing business with a CCP-backed company is not the same as doing business with, say, a Canadian company. They don’t answer to independent boards, and many of them are state-sponsored and so have no need to pursue profits.” Canada? How the heck did we get into this? … softwood lumber dispute anyone? Does someone who was on the negotiating team for CUSMA, known as USMCA south of the border, want to comment on this? For those who don’t know, Canada is repeatedly accused by our southern neighbours of being too Commie. This is sarcasm by Pompeo, I believe.
Pompeo: “Indeed, we have a NATO ally of ours that hasn’t stood up in the way that it needs to with respect to Hong Kong because they fear Beijing will restrict access to China’s market. This is the kind of timidity that will lead to historic failure, and we can’t repeat it.” Does he mean Canada again?? Time to call the Queen, and we’ll tell this guy who is failing historically. 🙂 By the way, the two closest ports to China in North America are both in Canada: Vancouver and Prince Rupert. With a free trade agreement goods can travel easily across the border. This is why we take flak from the US on aluminum, for example. Recently implemented CUSMA may also be a factor in the UK-USA free trade agreement discussion. Just in case others aren’t aware of these dynamics.
As Peter Donolo pointed out in 2018, although Washington claim to be aiming at Beijing, it’s Canada that keeps getting hit.
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/video/there-s-risk-trump-s-actions-are-driving-the-u-s-into-a-recession-peter-donolo~1342264

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 25 2020 22:57 utc | 64

Can b please write about what is really happening in Xinjiang with regards to the cultural genocide of the Uighurs? We have read and heard about the abuses from ex-detainees and foreign journalists. In one report, it is alleged that Chinese security officers slept with the wives of detainees while they were being incarcerated. China initially denied the existence of the camps, but later under intense international scrutiny, admitted that they exist. Surely, such abuses reminiscent of the holocaust deserve attention. Thank you, b.

Posted by: Martin Lee | Jul 26 2020 0:05 utc | 66

Martin Lee #66

Surely, such abuses reminiscent of the holocaust deserve attention. Thank you, b.

Thanks Martin Lee, at first I thought you were referring to the crimes against humanity conducted by Israel against the Palestinians and Syrians and Lebanese people.
That would be a suitable inclusion to discuss as well.
Perhaps you have some references to include in your next post. I will compile some for the Palestinians and Syrians and Lebanese people subject to permanent crimes against humanity.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 26 2020 0:16 utc | 68

Martin Lee #66
Here is my first link to an early crime against humanity that has seen little consideration in any court or United Nations forum.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 26 2020 0:23 utc | 70

Posted by: IronForge | Jul 25 2020 15:00 utc | 11

The colonisers are being colonised.
That would just and fair redress. Syria, Algeria, Vietnam and all France’ former colonial possessions had their cultures destroyed by the French.
Likewise, Britain becoming a virtual copy of Pakistan is just as well, since the Brits spent so much time and blood in that region of world they might as well save themselves the bother of the trip.

Posted by: Arch | Jul 26 2020 0:38 utc | 72

Piotr Berman #71

China admitted existence of camps where wives of detainees sleep with security officers? …… Can we compare the situation with Ukraine, where education in Russian will be soon abolished, use of many symbols is forbidden, and authorities intervene in religious matters, to mention just some “culturally genocidal” aspects?

The Australian security guards slept with detainees and wives in the covid quarantine hotels and then carried their surprise covid diseases back to their own high density shacks and spread it throughout the land. Its a common trait – incarceration then coercion.
But where is the proof in China? is that what the US embassy does there – invent reports, bribe the citizens, infiltrate agents provocateurs to create mayhem, destroy cultures through its malign interference.
One must wonder if falun gong is nothing more than a smart USA based infiltration / cult promotion / Avon pyramid sales racket as they practice back home among their pentecostal bretheren.
I note that the vigorous decimation of the early model ISIS attack in Chechnya and Russia has resulted in a stronger and more peaceful Chechnya culture today and an end to the horrendous attacks on civilians in those days.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 26 2020 1:05 utc | 74

Posted by: vk | Jul 25 2020 15:30 utc | 16 The goal, as the editor states, is to have at least 1,000 operational nukes “in a short time span”.
I don’t see the point (other than the one that applies to the US – they aren’t made to be used – only paid for – which I imagine doesn’t apply much to socialist China.)
China’s 320 is more than enough to destroy the US – even if 75% of them are destroyed in a US first strike. Destroy the 50 Major Metropolitan Areas and it’s over.
Yes, they could add some “tactical nukes” – but what’s the point there? The US isn’t going to invade China. There aren’t enough US ships to require hundreds of nukes on cruise missiles. Maybe 50 or a 100.
I could see putting a few hundred more on nuclear warheads on IRBMs on nuclear subs – to match the US threat there. Or a few hundred to be carried on fighter-bombers if you *really* think you need an entire “nuclear triad”. Maybe that would justify another 1,000 warheads in total.
All in all, it seems like US overkill. The bottom line of nuclear deterrence is this: someone uses a single nuke on you, you destroy their country. That may limit your strategic options for “finessing” a nuclear exchange, as nuclear strategists like to fantasize about – but it’s worked for the last half a century.
Be like Iran. Don’t waste money on weapons you can’t use and will be attacked for trying to develop before you can use them at all.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jul 26 2020 1:25 utc | 76

…
China initially denied the existence of the camps, but later under intense international scrutiny, admitted that they exist. Surely, such abuses reminiscent of the holocaust deserve attention. Thank you, b.
Posted by: Martin Lee | Jul 26 2020 0:05 utc | 66
The Uighurs are getting infinitely better treatment in China than the squalor, theft and ethnic cleansing inflicted upon the victims of ‘Israel’s’ Palestinian holocaust – for 70+ years with no end in sight…

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 26 2020 1:55 utc | 78

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 26 2020 1:38 utc | 77

The clown is just a troll crapping on about wanting b to write a propaganda piece.

Oh you mean we all need to read about lazy propaganda gems like passing off a Brazilian shoe factory as a Uighur forced labor camp?
Western “credibility” on Uighur reporting is them pissing in our ears and telling us it’s all rain.

Posted by: J W | Jul 26 2020 2:16 utc | 80

JW
And this shit.
“Federal authorities seize shipment of human hair extensions believed to have been made in Xinjiang prison camps”
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/cbp-seize-human-hair-extensions-made-in-xinjiang-uighur-labor-2020-7?r=US&IR=T
@all
The video I linked above is well worth watching. So similar to what happened in Chechnya, Syria and elsewhere. The CIA freedom fighters of Afghanistan were so successful they sent them everywhere as nucleus of new groups. The major growth was post 9/11 and yankistan’s war of terror.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 26 2020 3:03 utc | 82

Posted by: J W | Jul 26 2020 2:16 utc | 80
Just looking at the color and texture of the hair on those women in the photo is a dead giveaway.

Posted by: One Too Many | Jul 26 2020 3:07 utc | 84

It’s a clever diplomatic veiled message. He’s intimating that the US has demanded that China surrender its nukes. Otherwise it simply makes no sense at all.

Posted by: gAdolphMissFitler | Jul 26 2020 3:42 utc | 86

AntiSpin | Jul 25 2020 20:14 utc | 49
O! thanks so much for that 11th Commandment!. I have long hoped someone would enumerate the other 5…all we have are the 10 left after that klutz Moses dropped 5. At least Mel Brooks deserves credit for documenting that there were 15. See his documentary History Of The World for the facts.
Anyone have a clue to the other 4?

Posted by: chu teh | Jul 26 2020 4:04 utc | 88

Martin Lee @ 66 – – – “…. abuses reminiscent of the holocaust deserve attention.”
uncle tungsten @ 68 — “…. crimes against humanity… by Israel….”
Yes, Martin, we should also discuss Israel’s cultural genocide of the Palestinians, whom they shoot like dogs, even the children.
As well, why Israel claims it is “anti-semitic hate speech” to question their alleged “6 million holocaust deaths”.
Come to think of it, the Russians lost 20 million people (or was it 25 million?) in the same war, and they do not stop discussion by yelling “anti-russian hate speech”?
Surely, these disparities also deserve attention for those with an eye on fairness?

Posted by: kiwiklown | Jul 26 2020 4:19 utc | 90

kiwiklown @Jul26 3:46 #87
IMO it’s a mistake to see him as a fool or an idiot. You may dislike his willingness to lie, cheat, steal, but you can’t easily dismiss the fact that the strategy USA has pursued since 2014 has been well planned and orchestrated. The Empire is not giving up and not declining fast enough that it can’t challenge the upstarts.
“USA/Empire in decline” due to decadence of “late-stage capitalism” is a misleading meme. There may be some truth to it, but it is exaggerated – much as “Erdogan is turning east!” exaggerated Erdogan’s preference for Russia. USA/Empire has adjusted quickly and that has been ‘greeced’ by more payoffs to oligarchs (tax cuts, etc.), immense propaganda, and a more divisive politics to keep the rubes entertained.
Prediction: We’ll be chewing popcorn and yak-yakking at the moa bar for years to come.
!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 26 2020 4:28 utc | 92

Peter AU1 @ 77 — “…. China will be building, creating infrastructure and roads ensuring there is work and jobs so western China is not left behind in poverty.”
To improve the Uighurs’ lot is the only wise way towards long term peacability.
You don’t get equality by bringing down others to your poverty, but by helping them help themselves to rise to your level of abundance.
It is also the compassionate, humane, communitarian way of the East: I can enjoy my prosperity only if my neighbours also have prosperity.
Which is way, way better than what Native Americans get from the Indispensable Exceptionals.

Posted by: kiwiklown | Jul 26 2020 4:56 utc | 94

OT, why is your PM Jacinda Ardern so sweet praising China, but stick a knife at China back banning Huawei’s 5G and still remains a 5eyes…. I understand last year China stopped import NZ’s prized export – lobsters and she hastily makes a trip to court Xi Jinping?
The same can be said about Scott Morrison, take every opportunity to bash China and lately turns 180 degrees and said ‘there is no legal basis’ for Beijing’s disputed territorial claims in the South China Sea?” This is madness!
Hey, I’m not attacking you but from puzzles to extreme frustration they wanna China business or rather depending on China vast middle-class purchasing power, while supporting Trump to kill the golden goose? BTW, did you know beside Vietnam, she too reclaimed some of the SC Sea islands etc.. How come nobody care?
Thank you. 🙂

Posted by: JC | Jul 26 2020 5:41 utc | 96

On M. Pompeo
Hat tips to:
IronForge | Jul 25 2020 15:00 utc | 11 FRA’s Extended Colonial Endeavors have become Gateways …
Arch | Jul 26 2020 0:38 utc | 72…The colonisers are being colonised.
uncle tungsten | Jul 26 2020 0:40 utc | 73…to install fascist and right leaning dictatorships…
and others here at MOA whose keen observations reward my senses .
I posit that by turn of the 19th to 20th century, other keen observers saw that the USA was rising so fast in population and resource wealth including petroleum and demonstrated skill-sets that, combined with their natural [oceans, etc barriers to foreign attacks, the conclusion seemed that USA would come to dominate overwhelmingly in world affairs.
Thus the European powers-that-be faced this conundrum: How not to lose control and their own momentum in dominating/controlling the world affairs? There was no practical way to employ war to that end. Bribery and humiliation and diplomacy would be futile if not downright embarrassing. How to take control of USA?
Perhaps, just possibly maybe, there was a certain way to do it…if somehow, the USA”s money system could be covertly co-opted. But ever so subtly that after a brief period, it would be too late to stop the subversion of USA money-policymaking.
Ahah! Create a Federal Reserve system that overtly was American-run, yet covertly would be beholden to the “higher authority”of an International Banking Syndicate. In short, a bankers’ coup wherein the American partners would be full partners and EVERYONE [of us international-banker class] WINS..[Rockefeller [Std.Oil] was already in banking with JPMorgan] No other proposal was so likely to work.
[Insert here the facts of the Jekyll Island events.]
And there you have a possible explanation of world events. The German-American banker Warburg et al promoted Woodrow Wilson and controlled him and his ego/desire for high-office; a wannabe ruler selected for his secret faults that made him controllable.
Wilson in a clever election to state governor and then in a wildcard 1912 election became US President and signed the Fed Reserve Act.[a former President T. Roosevelt, was the wildcard that split the Rep vote so the Dem would win].
The ultimate quest was and remains global control. No industrial w3annabe can have it. No religious wannabe either. International Banking can and does subsume all.
The brilliant and accomplished intellect M. Pompeo , among stars of great learning abilities, are unfortunately corrupted by the burden of mountains of false data and dictums instilled into their young “clean-slates”, before they are tasked to “think for themselves”….in short, they have been disabled. All that false data, so carefully instilled, automatically warps their “think”.
Mine, too..

Posted by: chu teh | Jul 26 2020 6:06 utc | 98

This Martin Lee is a full troll. the name Lee may suggest he’s Chinese and if so he’s just another Chinese House Negro I was taking about.
They act all keen for knowledge and want to know the truth but once someone takes the bait they’ll unload with all the standard fascists, commie, organ havesting and holocaust rubbish.
But for those who haven’t seen this, here’s a very good primer against the establishment bs on the ugiher, rescued from twitter censorship by Caitlin Johnstone. you don’t need to log in to read it.
Uighur Genocide

Posted by: A.L. | Jul 26 2020 7:22 utc | 100