Fired Minneapolis officer Derek Chauvin, wife charged with tax crimes
He kills George Floyd over a $20 counterfeit bill…
“They underreported more than $460,000 in earnings and owe the government nearly $38,000, according to the charges.”
How does a cop and his wife (what does she for a living – run a bank?) make this kind of money? They bought a $100,000 car.
More proof that being a corrupt cop pays very well indeed.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jul 23 2020 15:01 utc | 3

Ok, time for part 2:
Trump is waging a Holy War against the yellows, they [the alt-right] say. He’s fighting to protect Christianity, they say. He’s fighting for the future of the white race, they say.
Well… not.
‘Europe shouldn’t let US meddle in its economy,’ German mayor under threat of US sanctions over Nord Stream 2 tells RT
Let’s not sugar coat it: the USA is just a dirty, filthy empire. It’s all good ol’ imperialism.
–//–
Covid-19 could loosen communist rule in Vietnam
The moment I read the headline I knew the author was spreading fake news (as we know the other socialist countries are also doing very well against the pandemic). I could talk about how and where the author is lying.
But the article is hidden behind a paywall. What a shame.
–//–
Meanwhile, guy from an USG propaganda outlet talks about how North Korean propaganda is doing well:
North Korea’s Foreign Propaganda Takes a Step Towards Modernity
Coming from where it’s coming, I would take it as a compliment.

Posted by: vk | Jul 23 2020 15:13 utc | 5

@vk #1
Is it really better for Trump to “pay off” the unemployed by continuing the CARES act federal unemployment supplement?
Are those people Trump supporters? What percentage?
I would note that it is far more likely that Trump supporters are the small business owners that are the most affected by the lockdowns; which are employers as well as suppliers to these unemployed.
If we drill down to the electoral swing states: $600/week extra unemployment benefits, plus the state unemployment, means an employer would be competing vs $15/hour unemployment income – and note this unemployment income doesn’t pay Social Security. This would seem to drive up the costs for those small business which can even operate.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 23 2020 15:19 utc | 7

c1ue 8
US now appears to have a death rate similar to Australia, Russia and other countries that used good medical practice at the start.
US had a very high death rate at the start perhaps because the majority of cases where in New York, overloading hospitals there, plus it is likely they took no notice of what China had learnt at that point so started from scratch and re-invented the wheel over the bodies of the victims of US stupidity.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 23 2020 15:54 utc | 9

Thank you, Lizard.

Posted by: Passingby | Jul 23 2020 16:07 utc | 11

Has Israel caught on to the implications of the partnership being negotiated by China and Iran? It would strengthen Iran and alter the balance of power in the Middle East. It would be a strategic catastrophe for Israel. China was conspicuously absent from investing in Iranian energy in 2019. A Chinese oil company pulled out of a $5 billion natural gas project in Iran in October 2019. In the lead up to the deal, the Iranian side revealed details about negotiation of a much bigger investment package worth hundreds of billions of dollars, which sounds similar to the pact that is now reported to be in the final stages before closing. Clearly China was at a juncture in 2019 deciding on whether to go big or go home. They decided in 2019 to go home. Now only months later it looks like the decision will be reversed. The root of the strategic reversal is the Trump admin’s stepped up initiative since February to dial up bellicosity and induce Asian states to form a grand alliance against China. China has reacted by starting to build its own alliance including a partnership with Iran.
But what is Israel going to do about it? Not award light rail contracts to Chinese construction companies to show that it is mad? Or will Israel be more strategic minded and seize the initiative? By that I mean figure out a way to halt the drift towards military confrontation in the Western Pacific so that China does not as a second order effect offload money, industry, and weapons to Iran.

Posted by: vigorspear | Jul 23 2020 16:51 utc | 13

=/ …
and if they can’t make money
they’d rather see you dead /= — above ^^^
I have really given it a lot of thought. They already have all the real money. They don’t want any more useless money.
What they really want is for you to suffer. They will keep you alive as long as they can torture you. Period.
It’s called Sado-capitalism.

Posted by: blues | Jul 23 2020 17:06 utc | 15

“Iran’s top security official: Harsher revenge awaits perpetrators of Gen. Soleimani’s assassination ”
revenge

Posted by: arby | Jul 23 2020 17:34 utc | 17

Whoever was involved in the Solemeni assassination in any way, drone operator, co-ordinator, etc., ought to be very careful about going higher than the first floor, driving a car, and probably many other activities.

Posted by: arby | Jul 23 2020 18:08 utc | 19

Blowback from the destruction of Libya, the attempted destruction of Syria, and the ugly face of European neo-imperialism:
Pernicious life and death policies in the Mediterranean
There is circumstantial evidence the European Union is systematically sinking boats loaded with refugees coming from the Libyan route. The MS editorial is correct in calling the Mediterranean “the graveyard of many people from the Middle East and Africa.”
It looks like a continental-wide operation of genocide and silence: the Italian and Greek Coast Guards do the dirty job with secret blessing from their governments, and their governments count with the tacit blessing (and silence) from the other EU governments and their respective MSMs. The Russian and Chinese MSMs do nothing because they can’t prove it (as they don’t have access to the local) and are more honest than the Western MSM (they don’t report what they can’t know).
I wouldn’t be surprised if we were talking, after all of this is done, of about some 100,000 dead drowned in the Mediterranean. After that dead boy in a Turkish beach fiasco, they took care of perfecting the scheme, so that the Italian and Greek coast guards can operate deeper into the sea, where the drowned corpses cannot be beached. If true, this would be the most well covered genocide in modern history, and the first one will full and direct complying from the “free press”.

Posted by: vk | Jul 23 2020 18:32 utc | 21

VK @ 21
Thanks for that link VK, why dose no one seem to mention or care about refugees. Truly a genocide of massive proportions !
The fascist’s march on.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 23 2020 18:54 utc | 23

In Bolivia, the MAS will win in the first round (only 40% is needed if it’s more than 10% ahead of 2nd place), so the regime is just suspending the right to vote in response.
https://twitter.com/OVargas52/status/1286362087636295681

Posted by: Evo Morales | Jul 23 2020 19:20 utc | 25

Very interesting opinion poll from Newsweek about Hong Kong
https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-more-hong-kong-say-us-threat-china-poll-1519710

Posted by: Sven Lystbæk | Jul 23 2020 19:41 utc | 27

More about the possible European genocide of the Middle Easterners:
The EU-Turkey refugee agreement: A review [2018]
This article mentions the deal with Turkey was put in force in 2016. It envisioned EUR 6 billion in two years in exchange of Turkey keeping the circa 2.9-3.5 million refugees trapped in Turkish territory (probably Anatolia).
Now this is the weird part: the deal mentioned that the cash should be directed to “educating half a million Syrian children”. Wait, what?
My guess is that this “build schools in Turkey for Syrian children” was merely a propaganda/legal device used by the EU to legitimate what was effectively a ransom being paid to Turkey.
But it gets even weirder. The very next year of the deal (2017), this came out in Germany:
Refugee numbers in Germany dropped dramatically in 2017

The figures German Interior Minister Thomas de Maizière announced in Berlin on Tuesday showed that the waves of refugees arriving in Germany continue to recede.
The Office of Migrants and Refugees (BAMF) registered 186,644 asylum seekers in 2017 compared to approximately 280,000 the year before and far fewer than the peak of 890,000 in 2015.

That is indeed a massive drop. At the time, the Merkel’s government stated that the reason for this was “the closing of the Balkan and Mediterranean routes”.
So the Mediterranean route was closed? How?
And the story doesn’t end there. After Libya entered in civil war, disputes for the resources of the Eastern Mediterranean erupted:
Turkey Reiterates Determination to Continue Drilling in Eastern Mediterranean
Macron Calls Turkey’s Mediterranean Drilling a ‘Violation of the Sovereignty’ of Cyprus and Greece
My hypothesis is this: the EU-Turkey deal included a secret protocol which, alongside Italy and Greece, authorized Turkey’s coast guard to sink refugee boats further in the Mediterranean. With time and sufficient leverage, Turkey became at ease enough to begin to drill over the sea for natural resources, entering in conflict with Greece and Italy.

Posted by: vk | Jul 23 2020 20:00 utc | 29

@vk 129

So the Mediterranean route was closed? How?

I don’t think it’s closed, but letting migrants drown by the thousands in the Med as a “deterrent” has been unofficial EU policy for a few years now. Maybe it’s finally “working”?
The west certainly hasn’t stopped the the imperialist wars (direct and proxy), ‘sanctions’ and economic exploitation that drives migrants to risk life and limb for a Better Life™︎ in Europe or N. America.

Posted by: Daniel | Jul 23 2020 20:13 utc | 31

@ Posted by: Daniel | Jul 23 2020 20:13 utc | 31
Look at the boat pictured at my first link. It an inflatable motorized boat, loaded with unprotected people.
If that picture represents the rule, not the exception, then you wouldn’t need much to “sink” the refugees in the middle of the Mediterranean. You certainly wouldn’t need anti-ship missiles or destroyers. A simple coast guard ship with something representing a harpoon would suffice.
One thing I’m almost certain: they didn’t escorted the boats back to the coast of Libya or Syria (as was propagandized at the time). Even if the tiny Italian and Greek coast guards had the resources to do it, I doubt they had the will to do so.
I also doubt there are schools in Turkey for Syrian refugees. EUR 6 billion would not be nearly enough to build schools or education centers for 1.5 million children (assuming 50% of the refugees were children).

Posted by: vk | Jul 23 2020 20:29 utc | 33

The weekly jobless benefit claims in the US rose for the first time in weeks as the recovery from the lockdowns appeared o have stalled
The “experts” predicted +1 mln; it came out +1.4 mln.
But this is the smart decision, as the median American who claims unemployment is actually getting 34% richer than when he/she was employed.
On a side note: now I know why there are so many Americans in the “influencer” industry (youtuber, streamer on Twitch etc.). If you’re lucky, you can get what you get in a menial job in just one week from donations through Patreon alone.

Posted by: vk | Jul 23 2020 20:52 utc | 35

@mark2 30
We had similar vids in Hong Kong and China when covid was on full tilt in wuhan. Some vids was made by fake poseurs, some were eventually found to be Taiwanese or epoch times in origin with political motives in mind. Some are just clueless.
Yes it’s definitely not a happy time in the health system but just like the wider community there are all sorts of people there. Some just can’t handle pressure or when conditions and resources are not 100% perfect.
I have worked in, erm let’s just say civil defense and rescue organisations and I will tell you first hand a lot of medical professionals are conditioned to “peacetime” work and goes off the rails when SHTF. In rescue we do reverse triage and will sometimes have to make pretty horrible decisions on complete strangers, on site, where sh1t is most messed up.
Chain of command is vital for clear communication and effectiveness. Keep in mind it’s also the doctors ass on the line even though 90% of the care was given by the nurses. This statement tells you everything about how disingenuous this person is. If you don’t like orders then be a doctor then I’d say, oh you’re not, well then….
It’s ain’t like ER or Greys Anatomy I can tell you that.

Posted by: A.L. | Jul 23 2020 21:02 utc | 37

We’re still here and commenting on this subject after more than two years ! Think of the mass suffering and death men women and children. What a heartless world.
Last time this subject arose it went to over 400 comments …
Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 23 2020 20:35 utc | 34
The optioned faced by bankrupt Greece and as yet, not formally bankrupt Italy are not attractive. The weary population may vote at anyone promising to fix the problem, so they fix to the degree they can. EU as a whole would have more options that we could analyze.
Number one, increase the number of countries accepting the refugees. These countries comprise two groups: the larger one where anti-immigrant populist won already, and a tiny one, like Latvia, where the refugees would not want to go. Those two groups overlap a bit. The hard work devoted to this option changes the political landscape in a number of countries. Thus impossible.
Number two, eliminate the reasons for refugees to flee. For example, eliminate sanctions of Syria and perhaps give modest reconstruction aid, give aid to Lebanon that has twin refugee problem (Palestinians and now Syrians) without political conditions which parties are allowed to participate in the governing coalition. Patch some solution for Libya that would lead to a government that controls the country and does not let sub-Saharan migrants to cross. Some pro-industry pro-employment programs south of Sahara. If you sufficiently improve the situation in the home countries, you could even deport there (perhaps with some measures not to spread COVID-19, seems that Trump energetically exported COVID-19 to Central America).
Reactivate the agreement with Iran without any jokes and simulations of trying to do something in exchange for stopping Afghans. Same remarks apply as with sub-Saharan Africa.
As it usually happens, sensible options cannot be even discussed. They may strengthen countries insufficiently friendly to Israel and create tensions with USA. Ha, even Canada might criticize that approach, New Trumpland as it is. In any case, Atlanticists in Europe have sufficiently strong grip on public discourse that such options cannot be even discussed.
Conclusion: suffer more, my little children.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jul 23 2020 21:07 utc | 39

Bold assessment by the Chinese military over the Bonhomme Richard fire:
Burning USS Bonhomme Richard mirrors overstrain of US Navy

Posted by: vk | Jul 23 2020 21:22 utc | 41

Piotr Berman @ 40
Agree with everything you say there !! It could be done.
But it would need sane none greedy, none psycopathic leaders to do so.
The fact there are humain ways to solve this proves, that it is a deliberate policy of planned co- ordanted genicide.
As for spelling I’d be the last here to dare to comment.
Respect

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 23 2020 21:37 utc | 43

A.L. @ 44
Don’t take my comment as an attack on you. It was not.
It was a comment on the general American mind set. See my first sentence.
As to the rest ! The time is long past for oppressing genuine justified anger.
Talking of that how’s those New York protests going.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 23 2020 22:12 utc | 45

@ 18 mark2 @ 18.. Previously I expressed similar concerns similar to what your movie suggest..
Covid is a series of infectious viruses.. S protein on virus surface has two parts: The S1 interacts with the ACE-2 Receptor on the human cell to decoy and S2 from clamping to the surface of the exposed target cell membrane, an thereafter disrupting the membrane between virus and the cell cytosol, that disruption causes the cell to open a pore tunnel thru both layers of membrane which enables the virus to crawl into into the cytosol of the live living human cell (this stage, the first, is called infection). Everything after that is up to immune system to overcome until after the 10 th day or so, then the damage the Immune system caused becomes a factor in whether or not the patient recovers or dies.
The focus should be on preventing infection. But no body wants to hear that.. Wear a mask and gloves. Infected patients are at the mercy of their own immune system to win the battle with the virus, and then at the mercy of the damage their own immune system did to their body. Let the physicians deal with post infected persons. Those still hoping to avoid the virus should be concerned with avoiding infection.
I know of no evidence suitable to prove RF does not accelerate infection probability? According to the patent application, etc., RF disrupts cell membranes to consummate its infection in humans in a manner very similar to how the virus gains access to the human cell, except the RF is more direct and quicker.
But what is the Covid 19 infection rate in humans, when humans are exposed to virus in the presence of high frequency energy formatted as RF anyway? Is it 5%, 10%, 20% or 100%?
Does RF catalyze virus infections to pandemic levels? <= Corna Virus has been around for a long time, long before the recent Pandemic, and it has not produced a pandemic until our time. Why? According to Dr. Pall, 7,500 new cell towers were put in place in Wuhan just two mouths before the outbreak of Pandemic Covid 19 virus. Mask and distancing have not slowed the growing Covid 19 numbers“Method of, and apparatus for, cell poration (makes holes in cells) and cell fusion using RF generated electrical pulses..” (my lab experience confirms transporting items through membranes by electral or optical means is standard practice).
Line 55 of the EUPA says the patent applied for<= is a method for the poration (make holes in cell membrane) and fusion of cells using RF electrical pulses The alternating electric field induces cell congregation... the RF porates or fuses with .. very high efficiency.. animal cells, human cells, plant cells, protoplasts, erythrocyte ghosts, lipsomes, vesicles, bacteria and yeasts. the EUPA says: the method has the unique ability to porate or fuse cells in very small or very large (like pandemic size) numbers. Further "During these prorations or fusions, ..a variety of chemical agents, including DNA, RNA, antibodies, proteins, drugs, molecular probes, hormones, growth factors, enzymes, organic and inorganic chemicals can be introduced into these cells.. and new biological species can be produced.. ”
There is bunches of literature that suggest RF is involved in membrane disruption, yet, all I hear, is wear a mask and gloves. Information blackouts invite conspiracy theories because the propaganda that promotes pandemics to be natural risks humans endure, but in todays modern environment that propaganda is suspicious. Especially suspect is that at a time when Viral Pandemic is the center narrative around the globe little about infectivity is discussed? Why ..? Thank you for the video.
Why is there an organized effort to spread SARS-COV-2? by: Jackrabbit @ 15
so <= if infection rate is normally .1%, then 1 person out of every 1000 exposed should become infected. For Corona to infect S1 and S2 portions of the S protein must find its way to ACE-2 Receptors on the cells to be infected and then clamp to cell membrane, then disrupt that cell membrane, and cell must be programmed to open a hole so the virus can crawl in . But suppose you are in an industry that depends on RF and you learn about the increase in infectivity of the virus in the presence of RF.. What do you do? What did one airplane company do when it learned its best aircraft lacked adequate safety? What did the Chemical Industry do when it learned its waste were contaminating the environment? What would providers of RF or those dependent on RF do, if they discovered RF increases the rate of viral infection in humans? They might fear that users would notice and blame the RF. Concerned citizens might cause the whole world to stop using RF until providers can prove its safety? Such a stoppage would devastate most RF investors but it might save a few million lives a year? I think the industry would try to convince everyone the Pandemic came before RF so viral infections w/n/b blamed on RF? Your video supports that the numbers are made up? The European Union Patent Application(EUPA) clearly says RF makes holes in human cell membranes so do hundreds if not thousands of scientific papers and using high frequency is often used in the laboratory to make one thing accept another through membrane barriers. Ask the RF industry to defend by actual proof that RF is safe [words of 1000 scientist unacceptable], an environmental survey should be required for each source (cell tower, satellite etc.), before RF is allowed to be further deployed, before RF energy levels are allowed to advance to 5g levels, and then only after government outlaws use of wireless to control human thought processes or human body functions, and then only after satisfactory means to monitor compliance are developed to enforce those provisions.

Posted by: snake | Jul 23 2020 22:53 utc | 47

From The Who own lying numbers.
Out of the supposed 15 million confirmed cases worldwide, only 4.1 percent of those resulted in death. In other words if you catch it you have generally a 96 percent chance of surviving it. 80 percent of persons with covid have mild to no symptoms at all.
Better efficacy than most vaccines already out there.
The hysteria and huge governmental overreaction and overreaction is no where near warranted.
Who stands to gain the most? Big Pharma.
Anyone who can’t see this scamdemic for what it truly is has been breathing too much of their own CO2.
Biggest and most powerful lobby in Washington DC and the world? Big Pharma
Largest profit margins in the world? Big Pharma
Largest profit centers for Big Pharma? vaccinations.
Are there actual free and open independently verified elections in the U.S.? Keep dreaming.
If a mask is all one needs to protect themselves from a supposedly contagious and deadly virus why would you need to have a BSL 4 suit in a BSL 4 lab to work with said viruses?

Posted by: O | Jul 23 2020 23:20 utc | 49

An Israeli fighter jet buzzed an Iranian passenger plane while it was landing in Syria. Forcing the plane to drop several hundred meters and injuring dozens of civilian passengers. Another major provocation by Israeli, this time directly and publicly targeting Iranian civilians (Crimes against humanity are standard operating procedure for the Israeli military), when will Syria, Iran or Hezbollah respond?

Posted by: Kadath | Jul 23 2020 23:24 utc | 51

Peter AU1 @Jul23 23:03 #48

The big thing at the start for many countries was flattening the curve

But some countries – like USA – didn’t move from flattening the curve to pro-actively fighting the virus (aka “eradication”). Instead, they moved to “open up” and talked up the promise of vaccines (which are all experimental – there’s never been a vaccine for AIDS or SARS).
IMO this is not an accident. These governments and their leaders have ulterior motives. They are not acting with our best interest in mind.
!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 23 2020 23:42 utc | 53

Jackrabbit “These governments and their leaders have ulterior motives.”
A big motive is to take us into cold or hot war with China. I think all of five-eyes chirped in tune for an “investigation” into the “Wuhan” virus.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 23 2020 23:56 utc | 55

Re Syrian refugees – My take on that was the biggest exodus of refugees through the Turkey border and towards Europe took place with the jihadist takeover of northern Syria. 2013-2015

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 24 2020 0:13 utc | 57

“In an article published in Nature Medicine1 on 9 November, scientists investigated a virus called SHC014, which is found in horseshoe bats in China. The researchers created a chimaeric virus, made up of a surface protein of SHC014 and the backbone of a SARS virus that had been adapted to grow in mice and to mimic human disease. The chimaera infected human airway cells — proving that the surface protein of SHC014 has the necessary structure to bind to a key receptor on the cells and to infect them. It also caused disease in mice, but did not kill them.
Although almost all coronaviruses isolated from bats have not been able to bind to the key human receptor, SHC014 is not the first that can do so. In 2013, researchers reported this ability for the first time in a different coronavirus isolated from the same bat population2.”
https://www.nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debate-over-risky-research-%201.18787
When one looks closely at these gain of function research, the area where the spike protein was designed to attach to was the
ACE 2 receptor.
“The results indicate that group 2b viruses encoding the SHC014 spike in a wild-type backbone can efficiently use multiple orthologs of the SARS receptor human angiotensin converting enzyme II (ACE2), replicate efficiently in primary human airway cells and achieve in vitro titers equivalent to epidemic strains of SARS-CoV. ”
https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985
Why Wuhan?
Because the folks at UNC working on this research (looks at the authors of these gain of function papers) started up the Wuhan Labortory that continued this work in particular, Shi Zhengli
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3086180/chinas-bat-woman-centre-coronavirus-theories-says-her-work
While the official narrative is that this virus jumped from bats, to a second species(pangolin) then humans, a process that usually takes thousands of years if not more. The probability that someone didn’t follow correct cleaning protocols after leaving the lab is quite higher. If we are to even accept the narrative that this started in China in the first place.
This does not rule out another place of origin in another lab and may have been circulating in the human population long before it was identified in China which means the virus itself has already circulated around the world several times and only now are measuring its effects on population and thus so many. positive cases popping up. Again positive for infection does not equal showing symptoms much less death.

Posted by: O | Jul 24 2020 0:27 utc | 59

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 23 2020 15:14 utc | 6
Thank you for entirely missing the point, in your haste to accuse me of not “knowing how people make a living.”
Posted by: lizard | Jul 23 2020 15:11 utc | 4
At least it’s not a stupid poem or some QAnon 5G conspiracy theory bullshit.
Posted by: snake | Jul 23 2020 22:53 utc | 47
Snake and lizard post 5G BS conspiracy theories. Similar animal names? Sock puppets is my guess.
Anyone reading this bullshit is invited to do their own Google search which will quickly lay it to rest.
From the International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection:

COVID-19 and RF EMF
Apr 2020
It has been claimed that exposure to the electromagnetic fields (EMFs) generated by 5G devices can both cause COVID-19 and increase its severity. These claims are not supported by any evidence (not even extremely weak evidence), and the large body of scientific knowledge regarding the EMFs relevant to 5G demonstrates that those claims are not feasible. EMF exposure from 5G devices does not cause COVID-19, nor does it have any effect on the disease process or health outcomes of those who are infected by the new corona virus (SARS-CoV-2) that causes COVID-19. As described by the WHO, you need to physically come into contact with the corona virus to become infected by it, and as the EMFs from 5G cannot carry viruses, they cannot bring you into contact with the virus.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jul 24 2020 0:45 utc | 61

Following on from my late posting re China embassy thread. Can barflies point me to papers and research studies that consider the intersection of Confucian and other Chinese philosophy with Marxist philosophy.
I would appreciate your advice and will reciprocate after reading.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 24 2020 1:18 utc | 63

@Hack,
you know I’m not a sock puppet, asshole. you think b would front page a sock puppet comment? I’ve been commenting here LONG before you started spamming these comment threads.
and where have I been commenting on 5G? please reference those comments.

Posted by: lizard | Jul 24 2020 1:28 utc | 65

Paul 62
Both sides of the duopoly collect their foreign policy from the US embassy, though with swearing loyalty to the English monarch, they at times appear unsure which boss to obey if mother England and big brother US have different opinions.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 24 2020 1:30 utc | 67

It is dawning on me that Trump wants to invoke martial law in the US. Covid-19 and/or the protest in the big cities are looking like the kind of situations he needs to make it happen.
On another note, Trump is/was pushing “payroll tax” relief which is a dog whistle cover for killing the Social Security Insurance program. Anyone that pushes any thoughts that Trump is motivated by service to humanity is deluded.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 24 2020 1:53 utc | 69

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 24 2020 1:30 utc | 66
I totally agree, as I said in my post the origins of this virus could be from another lab entirely. I also agree that if this was engineered and let loose(accidental or otherwise) it was a total failure of ethics, safety and supervision. Because of what is happening now is why the gain of function research was and is so controversial.

Posted by: O | Jul 24 2020 2:04 utc | 71

Lizard 65 & 4
If RSH’s comments annoy you so much you can’t skip over them, a nice lie down on your couch for awhile and a few latte’s to sip should make you feel better.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 24 2020 2:13 utc | 73

Peter AU1 | Jul 23 2020 23:03 utc | 48
This latest outbreak from the failed hotel quarantine debacle is due to Government incompetence & mismanagement, from both elected officials & the public servants tasked with overseeing it. This was further compounded by corrupt & criminal activity by the so called ‘security’ companies that were ‘guarding’ the hotels.
The Government/bureaucracy were warned at the very beginning that using untrained minimum wage security guards was a recipe for disaster – they all chose to ignore it.
The so called ‘judicial inquiry’ that started on Monday cannot compel the guilty parties to front up, or if they do, compel them to answer any questions. The only thing ‘judicial’ about is that there is a retired judge in charge & some lawyers who will make a shit load of money (at our expense of course).
There is now a stage 3 lockdown & mandatory ‘face covering’ in Melbourne – note mandatory ‘face covering’ – no requirement to use any form of surgical mask – just cover your face with any old scarf, an old sock or a wet paper bag.
Face to be covered everywhere – inside & outside – including when taking the dog for a walk in local bushland with nobody within hundreds of metres.
Of course joggers & bike riders are exempt – so good luck to the poor old pedestrian as these lycra clad clowns race past with inches to spare, exhaling from deep down in their covid riddled lungs a massive 3 metre long plume of virus laden water droplets.
Half arsed – if wearing a mask is to be mandatory it has to be done properly. This is precisely why masks were not made mandatory during the ‘first wave’ – they give a false sense of security & any form of social distancing gets thrown out the window.
Masks have been compulsory at my workplace for the last 3 weeks. Mildly irritating but not the end of the world.

Posted by: ted01 | Jul 24 2020 2:19 utc | 75

tedo1
but, but, but … we are not an “authoritarian” country like China….

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 24 2020 2:27 utc | 77

snake | Jul 23 2020 22:53 utc | 47
How does covid 19 spread in third world & under developed countries where there is no 5G?

Posted by: ted01 | Jul 24 2020 2:35 utc | 79

Kadath 72
Trump’s focus from early on has been building up the US military. That is not a domestic election ploy – it is a lead up to war. The way the Trump regime is pushing things now, US may have embarked on the Trump regime wars of choice before the election.
In going back through old video interviews of Trump, if there’s one thing he wants do while in office is destroy Iran. That goes back to a 1980 interview at the time or shortly after the Tehran hostage drama has has continued throughout his life since then.
The other thing he will attempt to do is create major incidences with China so that China west relations cannot be mended – a cold war, if not actually starting some sort of hot war, proxy or otherwise.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 24 2020 2:54 utc | 81

Pater AU1 @ 67
I agree that both sides of Australian politics collect their orders from the US embassy and the duopoly are sometime “unsure which boss to obey.” Either the UK or the US , but only up to a point.
Take the vote to establish and legitimise the alien state in Palestine, UNGA 181. The UK abstained, the US and USSR fell over each other to vote yes, Australia voted yes. Australia’s Doc Evatt was the UN president at that time as Labor party zionist apparatchiks never cease to mention.
Also take the 1949 UN vote to admit the bandit state to UN membership, conditional on the right of the return of refugees. The UK abstained the US voted yes along with Australia. So we can see the fault line, ever since Australia’s vote has been on autopilot on this issue.
As to the dismissal of the Whitlam government, lo and behold both the UK and US were up to their armpits as recent analysis reveals:
https://johnmenadue.com/alex-mitchell-gough-whitlams-dismissal-and-the-cia/

Posted by: Paul | Jul 24 2020 3:20 utc | 83

I mostly ship your crap lizard. Short comments that are not dementia scribblings I glance at. Seeing you tugging your own chain I thought I’d lend a hand. Though really, you should see a shrink and get your anger under control.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 24 2020 3:42 utc | 85

Regarding the speculation that the US wants a war with Iran.
After the US killed Soleimani, Iran fired missiles at a US base, causing noticeable damage. The whole world saw it, and we were up half the night in these threads counting off the Twitter reports, etc…
We all witnessed exactly how the US retreated from that situation. The White House tweeted that “all is well”, the Pentagon later said soldiers got headaches. We all saw – the entire world witnessed – how the US walked back and away from the situation.
If the US has been trying to start a war with Iran – why did it walk away from the perfect war handed to it on a plate?
It didn’t even have to create a false flag to start the war. Iran attacked it first! The US had actually maneuvered its enemy into striking the first blow against US soldiers!
Brilliant move by the US – it had the war in its hand – sitting right there in its hand, for it to retaliate with holy zeal. This war that everyone keeps saying that the US wants and is frantically seeking to provoke or engineer.
In its hand!
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The fact most obvious from all this situation is that the US did NOT want a war with Iran, and DOES NOT want a war with Iran. This war in the hand was not a thing planned by the generals that Trump stopped. The generals stopped it.
Those generals at the press conference were not people cheated of their blood lust, they were very scared people whose bluff had been called and who had narrowly escaped having their whole source of income destroyed. They had explained it to Trump, what would happen to the US forces if it responded to the Iranian attack.
The Pentagon knows that it cannot win a war against Iran. Every war game for more than a decade shows this decisively, beyond any doubt. War games are serious plans to conquer, and when they fail, it means you get beat.
The knowledge that Pentagon war games show 100% defeat if it fights Iran is so well known that it could be taught in schools. Everyone knows this, all over the world, and all through the public sphere, and there is truly no excuse for not including it in any analysis regarding US war with Iran.
And the Pentagon knows above all things that it cannot be beaten in public in a manner beyond its capacity to hide the defeat from the domestic populace. If this happens, serious doubts will arise about funding the Pentagon. The Pentagon, as with all of Washington, is funded on its bluster.
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My friends, forgive me but I have to mention how tired I am of hearing that the US is trying to go to war with Iran. You just can’t say that until you explain why it turned down the perfect war it already had 6 months ago.
And by the way, the US will be punished for that trick with the passenger plane it just pulled, and the US knows it. Just as it knew when Iran attacked its base that it was being punished for crossing the line, and meekly took its punishment like the bluffing, corrupt, greed-obsessed coward that it institutionally is.

Posted by: Grieved | Jul 24 2020 3:49 utc | 87

Grieved:
The Ian war motif is the trigger to shift Pax Americana to Pax Judaica. Some war is needed to shift the ruling world power to Jerusalem, the timing needs to be right, and part of the rightness of the timing are people’s minds. Will they manage to pull it off? The changing of the empirical guard is always a messy affair. But don’t lose sight of the fact that the guard is changing. Vaccines, war and financial wizardry will be used.

Posted by: Jezabeel | Jul 24 2020 4:37 utc | 89

Grieved @Jul24 3:49 #87

the US did NOT want a war with Iran, and DOES NOT want a war with Iran.

I think its more complicated.
US has bigger fish to fry (China). Israel is probably disappointed at that but they are getting paid-off to wait via USA recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, Golan Heights as Israel territory, and a go-ahead for annexation of the West Bank.
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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 24 2020 4:58 utc | 91

The Great Reset may entail another “World War” but in fact may be just a change in intensity. Out right nuclear armed conflict would be like blowing up the world casino with no insurance so that, in my estimation, is off the table.

Posted by: O | Jul 24 2020 5:10 utc | 93

lizard
The vast majority believes what everyone else believes. Human nature as a herd animal unchanged throughout history. On a very small percentage say “why” or see the massive holes in MSM propaganda. For them if everyone is saying it, it must be true. The few that do question this shit end up at sites like this and then rarely agree on all aspects. Many I very much disagree with on a number of issues – apart from the obvious trolls pushing propaganda from the powers that be. People that actually think for themselves rather than running with the mob.
As for what is occurring in this so called west – virtually nothing can be done internally. Whoever controls the media controls peoples minds. The few that don’t get caught by MSM mind control are no threat to those that control the narrative. A small site like this gets to the position it starts making waves as in large and widespread readership, it will be destroyed.
It is only self incurred collapse of the US or outside intervention that will change what is happening. If the US goes down, the whole western house of cards and illusion will collapse.
We can only watch. We could take a gun and take perhaps one or two politicians with us but that will change nothing. For me my life is finished but my children have now started their families. I watch, try and get an understanding of what is occurring and were we are at so that my children – if / when the shit hits the fan my children have some idea of what is occurring.
Tearing your hair out and screaming incoherently changes nothing.
But the point is, those that comment here are not those sleep walking into nothing to the tune of the MSM pied piper.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 24 2020 5:24 utc | 95

Not that this is a surprise, but, hey, it’s *July*…almost *August*…
Coronavirus testing: Still 10-day wait to get tested in SF; experts breakdown top 3 symptoms

Kiekhofer said her provider was hesitant to give her a test, questioning specific symptoms. “She said it was most likely a sinus infection or a cold.”

That’s just stupid and incompetent. Your medical profession at work.

Dr. David Witt, Kaiser’s lead epidemiologist said ‘no symptoms, no appointment.’ ‘We’ve closed down just in the past few days some asymptomatic testing,’ said Dr. Witt. “We’re only focusing on those with symptoms.”

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jul 24 2020 5:38 utc | 97

Wow. There is some real intellectual masturbation going on here in these comments.
I used to read here for information.
Nowadays, it’s just the same thing over and over again from pseudo intellectual narcissists.
I’m sure you will all be pleased to know that I AM OUT OF HERE.

Posted by: Cadence Calls | Jul 24 2020 5:55 utc | 99