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July 16, 2020
Open Thread 2020-56

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Lurk #72
China did it.
I have news for you Lurk, China did kill baby Jesus and placed a surrogate in the cot.
Before that it was absolutely clear that China engraved Moses tablets as only China had that technology. Those cunning Chinese are good at everything.
I would bet that China had long before infiltrated the city of UR or even Ur-Kasdim either of which is considered the birthplace of Abraham. Even the Tora has debate about this possibility of either ancient citiy.
There can be no denying that Chinese traders along the ancient silk roads would have reached the ancient Sumerian lands. Did they build the pyramids? There are after all dozens of pyramids in the city of Xi’an.
Barflies fyi tonight I am drinking a fine shiraz.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 18 2020 8:07 utc | 101

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 18 2020 6:35 utc | 100
Why would evil CCP don’t arrest people for no reason, when they already assassinate foreign leaders on civilian charter flights in broad daylight and brag about it?
Oh wai-

Posted by: J W | Jul 18 2020 9:55 utc | 102

Three Ukranian soldiers stepped on landmines when secretly entering DNR territory to commit sabotage action.One dead is Estonian,one is american known by surname “Texas”.

Posted by: willie | Jul 18 2020 11:21 utc | 103

Ethiopia and Egypt are angry about water they might learn to share.
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Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 17 2020 21:50 utc | 83

Imo this issue hinges on how full/empty Egypt’s Aswan High Dam is.
I googled ‘Aswan Dam capacity status 2020’ which yielded unhelpfully useless results. I tried DuckDuckGo-ing it which turned up the following article, from several other sources besides eastafricanist:
https://eastafricanist.com/2020/06/01/why-is-now-the-right-time-to-start-the-filling-of-the-grand-ethiopian-renaissance-dam-gerd/
“The high water storage in the High Aswan Dam (HAD) The water level at the HAD (Lake Nasser) in Egypt has been steadily increasing since 2016 (post the 2015 drought) and is currently at 2.87 meters above its 10 years mean water level (usda.gov, 2020a).”
It’s the rainy season in the relevant catchment area and it is raining so one wonders if if Sisi is being recalcitrant at USA’s bidding? In other words AmeriKKKa doesn’t dare attack ANY of its Imaginary Enemies right now because ALL of them can and will shoot back. So the next best thing for the US of Assholes is to create the illusion of a possible war.
I mean it’s sub-moronic for Sisi to pretend that he’s willing to go to war with Ethiopia because, no matter how the war ends, he’s still going to have to negotiate a water-sharing deal with SOMEONE representing Ethiopia’s interests.
Plus – someone should remind Sisi that the best time to bomb a dam is when it’s full and let the escaping water finish the job. So maybe Sisi should be careful what he wishes for before he starts bombing an EMPTY dam.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 18 2020 15:45 utc | 104

Hoarsewhisperer 104
Try the bing search engine for news. It seems to bring up closest match to search terms whereas both google and duckduckgo have been tweaked to bring up the moronic ‘most viewed’ or ‘most liked’

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 18 2020 16:20 utc | 105

@ karlof1
I commented the other day on how I thought the cold war cemented extreme capitalism into the US culture, but another angle I was thinking of is this thing Americans called freedoms. That was hyped through the cold war and is still constantly used in propaganda against a target country with freedoms not just part of the culture but a fanatical religion. Part of what makes the US ungovernable. Just a look at the coronavirus threads and the freedom crowd screaming about masks and mask laws – commie blah blah.
Post WWII , perhaps post sixties, US freedom seems to be a freedom from thought, freedom from intelligence, freedom from being responsible for ones own actions.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 18 2020 16:33 utc | 106

@ uncle tungsten | Jul 18 2020 8:07 utc | 101
Barflies fyi tonight I am drinking a fine shiraz.
!! cheers = 干杯 “Gānbēi” in Mandarin
Shiraz = Syrah … my fave of the reds
… so shall join you if I may !!
BTW : with thanks to your oft informative posts

Posted by: MegaMicro | Jul 18 2020 17:20 utc | 107

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 18 2020 16:20 utc | 105
(Try Bing (for Aswan Dam))
Thanks for the tip.
Bing search returned very similar results to DuckDuckGo including the article I referred to in my #104 :-). Google seems increasingly to be acting dumber than a rock.
I was looking for info which threw cold water on Sisi’s weird stance and the EastAfricanist article and its numerous echoes from other sources suited me fine.
Whilst we’re on the subject, and Peter AU1 being my favourite www sleuth, would you mind trying to find an up-to-date (2020) satellite pic of Aswan Dam to see if one can tell how full it is, or isn’t?
EastAfricanist says it’s 88% full, which is why I ripped into Sisi…

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 18 2020 17:41 utc | 108

Hoarsewhisperer
No sat pics turned up in a basic search so I started a trial account at Planet Labs with a bullshit company name and job title. Been thinking of doing that for awhile.
There’s no treeline around the dam and I only get a low definition view, but judging by the distance of buildings from the waterline it is not far off full. That was in February this year. More recent views have to be paid for.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 18 2020 18:53 utc | 109


There’s no treeline around the dam and I only get a low definition view, but judging by the distance of buildings from the waterline it is not far off full. That was in February this year. More recent views have to be paid for.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 18 2020 18:53 utc | 109

Thanks a lot.
Don’t pay for more recent views. We’re only using the info to confirm or debunk EastAfricanist’s 88% claim. So it’s more or less confirmed…

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 18 2020 20:01 utc | 110

@Peter AU1 | 105, Hoarsewhisperer | 108
I am still relativel new to Bing but already am usin it with DuckDuckGo and both are pretty good in terms of results. But still it amazes me at times that no matter how accurate your search wording you can be thrown completely off course by the results.
Google is a lost cause and has been for a long time I think. It survives only because it is bundled and people are either ignorant or lazy.
Also Duckduckgo has a great privacy monitor extension now which is a great way to better know the sites you visit.

Posted by: AtaBrit | Jul 18 2020 20:15 utc | 111

AtaBrit #111
Placing “quote” marks around the search term sets a rigid search criteria. Mostly hepfull but is very limiting. Startpage is not bad sometimes.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 18 2020 21:13 utc | 112

John Helmer gets to kick the fraudsat Financial Times and OPCW down the road again.
Roula Khalaf Financial Times editor is class act. She is competing with the NYT to be the words best bullshitter.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 18 2020 21:28 utc | 113

AtaBrit 111
Back in 2013 I used duckduckgo to research a certain subject and a court case that set a precedent and clearly defined and old English legal term. a few years later, not a trace of that court case could be found with duckduckgo or google. I spent about two hours trying different search terms and searching through the first half dozen pages of results.
I decided to try the Russian search engine yandex and on the first result of the first search term, it brought up a section of the court case that had been quoted in a blog. The actual transcript of the court case couldn’t be found so I guess that had been removed from the internet. It was originally available in a government archive of court cases.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 18 2020 21:31 utc | 114

I see the New Eastern Outlook is running a propaganda piece for the Australian Government about how the island nations of the South Pacific are welcoming Australian (read IMF) support for their nations.
Those brave aussies are desperate to ‘save’ the island folk from China’s loans. That means they can be captured by western austerity enslavement as opposed to economic dependency on China.
After the last few decades of ignorant and abusive Australian Government bungling among the Pacific Ilsand nations, there is no chance for better relations but some remote chance for an accomm/odation for the pariah down under.
Odd that NEO is running such a piece of crap stenography.
From the story (I wont dignify it with the word ‘report’)

However, over the past few years the trade and economic initiatives put forth by China, the largest of which is the One Belt One Road initiative and includes Fiji, Papua New Guinea, and Vanuatu, has disrupted Australia’s seemingly unshakable dominance in Oceania. And Canberra, under the leadership of Morrison, was forced to first lay out a considerable amount in the form of grants and loans for infrastructure projects (2.18 billion dollars), which exceeded Chinese investments in the region, to try to force the island countries spinning out of its control to once again submit to the influence of their historical partner.

Australia has never been a partner. It is a resource extractor, a plunderer of Island wealth and dignity with a pretense of compassion and kindred support. See what they did to the newly liberated East Timor:- They stole their oilfields when the Timorese were finally getting up off their knees.
New Eastern Outlook could do better.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 18 2020 22:44 utc | 115

uncle tungsten 115
I have been reading similar in MSM. I guess the oz money will separate those islands with a corrupt leadership from those that are honest, though if their smart, they’ll grab the money and tell Morrison to get lost.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 18 2020 22:54 utc | 116

Peter AU 1 @106–
Yes, I must agree with your observation. It’s sorts like my retort to W Bush saying Jesus was his favorite philosopher: It’s said Jesus died for our sins, so we get to sin as much as we want. But seriously, ever since I read Our Stolen Future, IMO the problem’s industrial pollution that’s lowering people’s intellectual capabilities combined with massive educational dumbing down. Then there’s the revamped Valley of the Dolls pill culture pushed by Big Pharma to deal with behavioral issues caused by the pollution. The idea in the 50-60s was to feed your mind so it could be freed from “square” dogma and Establishment indoctrination, but there doesn’t seem to be much of that happening within the West where people are captured by their freedom and have no idea what to do with it.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 18 2020 23:18 utc | 117

Latest on Portland, Oregon versus Federal Stormtroopers:
“Oregon Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum on Friday announced a criminal probe into violence committed against peaceful protesters by unidentified federal officials who President Donald Trump deployed to Portland earlier this month to quash Black Lives Matter demonstrations.
“Rosenblum also said her office is suing the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the U.S. Marshals Service, the U.S. Customs and Border Protection, the Federal Protection Service, and their agents for violating ‘the civil rights of Oregonians by seizing and detaining them without probable cause’ after video footage showed federal officials in combat fatigues snatching protesters off the streets and throwing them into unmarked vehicles.
“‘These tactics must stop,’ Rosenblum said in a statement. ‘They not only make it impossible for people to assert their First Amendment rights to protest peacefully. They also create a more volatile situation on our streets. We are today asking the federal court to stop the federal police from secretly stopping and forcibly grabbing Oregonians off our streets.'”
Interesting what the DHS Goon had to say. Portland is indeed a test for further “facility” protection.
This also should be read with the comment I just made on the Georgia thread.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 18 2020 23:51 utc | 118

karlof1
My thought is that rights are freedoms, but in any functioning social system, there is also responsibilities that correspond to, or go with those freedoms.
We had a white Australia policy until the early sixties. In the remote areas, aboriginal communities worked and camped at cattle stations that were set up where their ancestors lived before white settlement. The young men would do the cattle work and the whole camp was supplied with food and very basic necessities in return. In the wet season they would go off hunting and living traditional life.
The aboriginal people gained citizenship in the early sixties. This meant they had to be paid basic wage and and also had the right to enter a pub and buy liquor along with the rights of all citizens.
With no halfway house, no preparation, they were suddenly dumped into the white mans world and everything went downhill from there. Stations could no longer afford to feed and cloth the camp which would end up on the outskirts of towns, and with a bit of money, booze took its toll.
For many, life is still a mess living on the outskirts of towns. Booze and drugs are major problems. It’s a major problem that requires well thought out programs but instead, money is sometimes thrown at it and other times its brushed under the carpet.
With the loss of their land their culture fell apart, as the land is an integral part of their culture. They where given rights of citizens but there was no attempt to prepare them for the responsibilities that go along with those rights.
then on one side is those who want to crack down on crime, and on the other side are the do-gooder types who think all aboriginals without exception who get into trouble with the law just need tolerance and programs. There are many kids and young people who get caught driving unlicensed or unregistered vehicles, petty theft to pay for booze or drugs and then there is the genuine criminal types that are a menace to everyone, black or white.
It is only well thought out socialist type programs that have a chance of succeeding, but same as in most of the west, all we have is woke types or the far right law and order types.
Somewhat different to the problems you have in the US ….
I had thought a bit about these things over the years but when you asked me about the police violence in the US I started thinking a lot more on US culture and its progression.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 19 2020 0:27 utc | 119

119 was my post.
Looks like I put your username in the username box by mistake karlof1. I often copy and paste a username rather than retype it.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 19 2020 1:02 utc | 120

Is there anyone that doesn’t believe that Christopher Steele’s Primary Sub-source is Skripal?
Declassified: Christopher Steele’s “Primary Sub-Source” Was His Own Employee; NYT Russiagate Propaganda Shredded By Strzok Comments

  • The document reveals that the primary “source” of Steele’s election reporting was not some well-connected current or former Russian official, but a non-Russian based contract employee of Christopher Steele’s firm. Moreover, it demonstrates that the information that Steele’s primary source provided him was second and third-hand information and rumor at best.
  • Critically, the document shows that Steele’s “Primary Sub-source” disagreed with and was surprised by how information he gave Steele was then conveyed by Steele in the Steele dossier.

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“Non-Russian based” is being spun as “not Russian”. Such cute phrasing and spinning is an indication that the source is Russian. An expat Russian. Most likely Skripal – especial given the tantalizing info that the source “… disagreed with and was surprised by how information he gave Steele was then conveyed by Steele in the Steele dossier.”
Skripal probably realized he was being used in a political game. Some have speculated that he had planned an escape. But him and his daughter were intercepted: “novichok”-ed, detained, and hidden away.
IMO Skripal KNEW the dossier was false and he probably ALSO KNEW that it was MEANT TO BE FALSE. Because Steele and MI-6 weren’t trying to help Hillary or ‘get’ Trump – they were trying to gin up a new anti-Russian McCarthyism.
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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 19 2020 1:46 utc | 121

Jackrabbit
The Steel dossier I believe was a GCHQ operation. It sure looks like Skripal was in on it.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 19 2020 2:05 utc | 122

US coronavirus data will now bypass the CDC and go straight to the White House.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-18/us-coronavirus-data-white-house-what-it-means-for-the-world/12467322
“This will have a range of likely knock-on effects. For starters, the new database will not be available to the public, prompting inevitable questions over the accuracy and transparency of data which will now be interpreted and shared by the White House.
The Department of Health and Human Services, which issued the new order, says the change will help the White House’s coronavirus task force allocate resources.”
…………..
Plenty of propaganda on CDC being an authoritative voice on the subject when they couldn’t even make a test kit, but still there is a bit of information in the piece.
Daily new cases in the US have ben skyrocketing for some time now. After the normal interval, the death count also started to rise again, but then it suddenly flatlined.
I would guess no matter how many cases US has from now on, death count will remain below one thousand per day.
Creative accounting cures coronavirus in no time.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 19 2020 2:14 utc | 123

Peter AU1 @Jul19 2:05 #122
I think it was a CIA operation overseen by Gina Haspel that was outsourced to GCHQ.
I don’t think Skripal was “in on it” as an insider but as a dispensable fall guy / patsy.
And (again), I don’t think the operation was ever intended as opposition research for the Clinton campaign. It was meant to smear Putin/Russia with made-up info that appeared plausible so as to initiate a new McCarthyism.
The Empire’s turn against Russia and China began in 2014 when it became clear that the Russia-China Alliance was strong and a renewed Russia was ready and willing to stand against US/Empire interests. IMO Kissingers WSJ Op-Ed in August 2014 is tangible evidence of that turn. Kissinger urges USA to look to it’s past glories as it meets the challenge from Russia and China. 10 months later, Trump entered the race for President touting MAGA!
I wrote (at the time!) that Kissinger’s Op-Ed was virtually a declaration of war.
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And that prompts a new insight.
IMO the recent news that Trump issued a Presidential Finding that allows CIA to conduct covert wars against US enemies is incomplete. I imagine that Obama signed a similar finding wrt to China and Russia – probably also including allies or entities that assist China and Russia.
It seems likely that Trump was just renewing, and possibly expanding on, what Obama did.
It was reported that Trump issued this Presidential Finding in 2018. That would be about 4 years after 2014. A lot of what Washington does has 4-year time-frames due to the 4-year election cycle.
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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 19 2020 2:47 utc | 124

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 19 2020 0:27 utc | 119
News from Portland not good. CGTN News the fed in plain clothing arresting protesters. Please post news as the events turns to hopelessness. Please do take care. 🙂

Posted by: JC | Jul 19 2020 6:30 utc | 125

Jackrabbit
Modus operandi for five-eyes. Contract out the hit job on their own country to the other five-eyes.
On Trump and Russia though, I feel his faction wanted to ally with or wanted to have detente with Russia for the purpose of taking down China. Some of what Kissinger was saying in the months after the election, I think also led in that direction.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 19 2020 7:12 utc | 126

@125 JC
My friend, the news is also good. We don’t know if the good is bigger than the bad but consider this: the states during this epidemic have been remembering their authority under the Constitution as members of the United States – with powers derived from the people, and powers delegated to the federal union itself, and powers retained to the states.
This has been for many years a very arcane and academic body of knowledge, but the crisis of this year forces it to be a controlling body of knowledge – because actually the Union is controlled by law.
Now the State of Oregon (or is it the Mayor of Portland?) is entering federal court to sue a half-dozen federal agencies and entities for stepping over the line of their jurisdiction and power.
The courts will decide, and this may – or may not – be the end of it all.
Here in the US, we live in a nation of laws. Very rarely does this interfere with the routine criminality of the criminal classes conducting their theft on a daily basis. But sometimes it does. This is one of those times.
Every state of the United States is supremely awake to what is happening with the balance between federal authority and state authority. This matters to the people, because while the people have almost no influence with the federal level of this nation, the people can have a very significant influence on their states – this is very true.
So things could happen. When the little people get closer to the power, things could happen.
It’s a gift that comes out of the pandemic. I don’t venture to say what will be revealed in the box of this gift as it is unwrapped. Merely that this gift is rarely given, and now, here in this year of great change, it appears.
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So be of good heart. I know you care about us. This can be a good thing. And my feeling is that it is more of a good thing than a bad thing – but we shall see.

Posted by: Grieved | Jul 19 2020 7:21 utc | 127

MegaMicro #107
Thank you, and if one was to drink a good Chinese spirit, what would that be?
I am partial to Lebanese Arak and Mexican Tequila so I should venture East too.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 19 2020 9:22 utc | 128

In his last podcast, Daniel Estulin tlaks about the gold stolen by the Nazis and hidden in Philipines which was looked for and then found by Marcos, who, at that point received a letter from the Trilateral Comission on that the gold should be returned to them or “else”…Marcos tried to disguise some gold for him, by painting it, and then “else” happened…..
One gets with the impression that every war the world has suffered has been orcehstrated in times of scarcity and lack of far away countries/people to plunder so as to solve by robbery some hegemonic ambitions and pretense to live always over their own means….
I think it is in this context that, after withdrawing from as many as they can international coalition/agreements, UK aircraft carriers have been deployed in the Pacific….along with those from the US…in a clear “Coalition for Piratery” which already had its premiere with the seizing of Venezuelan national assets…

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jul 19 2020 10:06 utc | 129

Another thing Daniel Estulin is warning is on the disappearing of banks ( and citizens´ savings accounts with them ) on behalf of only remaining Central Banks, and that, at certain point, the “elites” will shut down internet…Well, it seems it has already started…
https://twitter.com/EstulinDaniel/status/1284498273538121728
What will happen then with all e-accounts in the banks?
I always thought, when proposed on one of those fictitious accounts, that in the event of a global outage you will never be able to demonstrate you owned anything which only figured in an e-account….How?

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jul 19 2020 10:14 utc | 130

@ Jackrabbit & Peter AU1
The Americans may fear a Russian alliance with China, but the British fear even stronger an alliance between Russia and Germany.
PS the direct link between Steele and Skripal is a man named Pablo Miller. He is Skripal’s main handler and also Steele’s best pal from their military days. You won’t find his name in the British press because of a “D Notice” (that wiki link even refences the Steele/Skripal/Miller ménage à trois.)

Posted by: Lurk | Jul 19 2020 10:30 utc | 131

After witnessing the “militarization” of “citizens´ militias” in Portland to jump over US Constitution against demonstrators, another sign on that the thin line which has always separated states from mafia is increasingly blurring in the prospect of growing social unrest to come as result of the mother of all crisis….
How all this military hardware can pass through unnoticed by the “authorities”?…
https://twitter.com/descifraguerra/status/1284514797241790470
All these rogue, criminal actors are being militarized and armed to the teeth by the MIC for the riots to come…
This is the ISISification of the West…having acted all the Middle East wars as general rehearsal…

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jul 19 2020 10:34 utc | 132

uncle tungsten | Jul 19 2020 9:22 utc | 128
The Asian green label beer goes down good. Not being able to read Chinese, I bought a bottle of stuff that looked like whiskey. It contained alcohol and so long as a liquid contains booze I can usually drink it. But that stuff was in a different class.
I gave it to one of my daughters to offer it to guests as she she has a few of the yuppie types around but none of them could drink it either.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 19 2020 10:45 utc | 133

The Spanish far-right of the Popular Party, that which wrapps itself in the Spanish flag to show they are the most patriots, are encouraging his partner in the European Popular Party, Mark Rutte, to put as many sticks he can to derail Eurogroup agreement of the post-pandemic recovery, to the cry of, “Mark, drown them” ( seen at their Twitter accounts…), claiming for more social cuts and reforms to favor the capitalist class they really serve, which is transnational…Another aim is to drown the first left coalition government in Spain after Franco´s dictatorship….
https://twitter.com/RocaSenor/status/1284481978587283458

Asking for social cuts amid a pandemic that has degraded the purchasing power of the population, which also has to face new expenses (masks at 80 bucks / month) is not only irresponsible, it is terrorism.
You have to answer. Tomorrow is late.
Incidentally, disgusting the attitude of the right positioning itself on the side of the enemies of Spain and cheering its own record of theft of European aid as justification for cuts that the economic powers they serve are wanting.
It is the classic win-win strategy of economic rightism: governing by stealing with all hands, negligently managing, corrupting any institution they touch and then arguing that what is public is “inefficient” and handing it over to the companies which send envelops full of money to them. Stealing, this way, is doubly profitting for them.

Some peers argue the Rutte acts as the “bad cop” of Merkel….

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jul 19 2020 10:49 utc | 134

Why the “Coalition for Piratery” needs to send in aircraft carriers to the South Cgina Sea as their “color revolutions” do not work in China…
https://twitter.com/ComisionOctubre/status/1284484075236065280

93%. The satisfaction of the Chinese people with the Government of the Communist Party is currently reaching its highest level since Harvard University conducts its annual survey.

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jul 19 2020 10:57 utc | 135

Interesting comments section on the Eurogroup meeting…For this travel, and for to go the Lebanese way, being drowned by our own “partners”, we should also consider looking at the East for post-pandemic help, as advised by Nasrallah…Why to put all our eggs in the unique EU´s basket, with these wockers every time we are in trouble?
Why is not Mark Rutte proposing that the Spanish banks, which have delivered benefits all these past years, return the hundreds of millions of Euros the Spanish citizens bailed them out with during the 2008 crisis, handed by the Spanish Popular Party without citizens´consent and without returning obligation?
https://www.infolibre.es/noticias/mundo/2020/07/18/cumbre_clave_por_covid_109031_1022.html

If a camouflaged tax haven of 18 million inhabitants like the Netherlands wants to drive the decisions of a European community of 500 million inhabitants and this becomes a habit, perhaps, sooner or later, one would have to think about whether it is worth the stay in this community or transform ourselves into a tax haven and initiate pacts with other communities with the same or greater market.

I am not a supporter of boycotts but although it is useless, for now I have made a list of Dutch companies, notable for its high penetration Unilever that has a lot of products, and to those no water.
“>https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Empresas_de_los_Pa%C3%ADses_Bajos

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jul 19 2020 11:15 utc | 136

Another interesting opinion under the linked article from InfoLibre on the Eurogroup post-pandemic recovery fund:

In my modest opinion (and that of some people much more documented than me), what Spain and Italy should do (along with others like Portugal and Greece) would be to credibly threaten to break the deck.
And, if necessary, break it, refusing to approve the Budget of the European Union (for which, also, unanimity is required) so that the frugality that they prescribe also includes French and Dutch cows, tulip producers, potatoes onions and cucumbers and the European multinationals that are waiting for those generous funds that are in question for us and they want to condition on that we further dismantle our social and labor justice.
If that were to happen, it is very likely that, although we would also pay a high price, perhaps those who today intend to extort us will suffer worse consequences.
And, on the other hand, in our case the damages caused would be compensated, at least partially, with the economic independence gained that, in the medium term, would allow us to rebalance, socially and economically, our country.
In this regard, I recommend reading the article published yesterday in Nueva Tribuna by D. Gabriel Flores Sánchez entitled “How, when and who will pay the public debt?”, that analyzes the possible future outputs of this pulse.
https://www.nuevatribuna.es/articulo/actualidad/crisis-covid-europa-deuda-publica/20200716110515177178.html

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jul 19 2020 11:32 utc | 137

In front the menace of being drowned by the European tax havens, more relevant than ever…
If we are about to fall under transnational capital´s dictatorship, that is, losing our reamining sovereignty on behalf of ilegal capital which do not pay taxes anywhere,…it is also possible that increasingly more of us decide to go outlaw as well…What is to be lost, in front of a life of slavery as alternative?
As it is not commendable to march on Russia…Do not try to step on us Spanish people…( advise for the Hanseatic league….)
“Lucio”, the documental….There are anarchists….and anarchists…
https://twitter.com/Amor_y_Rabia/status/1284651619108487170

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jul 19 2020 12:04 utc | 138

LET THE EARTH BE SLIGHT: Lucio Urturbia, an anarchist, robber and responsible for a counterfeit that put the world’s largest bank of the time, Citibank, on the ropes, has died.
https://twitter.com/Amor_y_Rabia/status/1284651366128979969

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jul 19 2020 12:07 utc | 139

Of full actuality, and for everybody in the world to know, meet the people advising us to manage better…privatice our pension systems and put an end to our remaining welfare state in exchange of help for post-pandemic crisis….On the abcesses from which EU suppurates….and which will put an end to it… on behalf of US/UK transnational capital business….
European Tax havens
https://twitter.com/descifraguerra/status/1284508448227565568

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jul 19 2020 12:13 utc | 140

Map of explosions which took place in Iran during July 2020:
https://twitter.com/descifraguerra/status/1284810495556493312

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jul 19 2020 12:27 utc | 141

Today the official account of #OTAN has published a Twit with some actions carried out by the Alliance during the health crisis
International aid / solidarity during the pandemic has also become part of the geopolitical table
Nothing new

https://twitter.com/patton_b_v/status/1284804388536627200
Recall that Spain, contrary to what Italy did when it asked for help to Russia, China and Cuba, asked instead for help to NATO, trying to fulfill “its obligations” and remain into the “block”…and received nothing…
It seems that NATO, along with its real manager, the US, has no “obligations with its “partners”, or that has its help conditioned to what political ideology your current government is….Of course, of this, almost nobody amongst Spanish citizenry has any clue…otherwise we will be already witnessing again demonstrations on the “Out of NATO” cry…because, after all, if one is to manage on its own in the middle of a “germ warfare” rpovoked by others, why would one feel obliged to contribute to such ineffective “alliance” in the middle of such a deep crisis of unknown proportions even from before NATO creation?

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jul 19 2020 12:42 utc | 142

More on the more than oportune debate on tax havens…this time European, which European Comission forgots…
https://www.lavanguardia.com/economia/20200718/482351050173/comision-europea-paraisos-fiscales.html

As published in a study in the midst of a pandemic, the academic Gabriel Zucman of the University of Berkeley together with his colleague Ludig Vier and Thomas Tørsløv of the University of Copenhagen (entitled The missing profits of nations), around 80% of the business profits of the EU move to Ireland, Luxembourg and the Netherlands. And not exactly for tourism, but to take advantage of its generous tax avoidance mechanisms that reduce the tax burden for multinationals.
As the Tax Justice Network explained to this newspaper, “the black list of non-cooperative jurisdictions in the EU by design does not take into account the countries of the Union. These criteria, with these omissions, are too weak to protect taxpayers. The EU selection has covered at most 10% of the world’s financial secrecy services. ”
According to Zucman’s study, Spain loses 12% of its corporation tax due to the financial engineering that is carried out … within the EU itself! In numbers, we are talking about 3,150 million euros. But profits are also lost, which are transferred outside the borders: 12.6 billion euros.
In particular, the case of the Netherlands is striking, one of the most reluctant countries – as has been seen in providing direct aid to the countries of the south, when, in practice, its tax system allows to lower the tax burden on companies up to a range of between 1% and 10%. The Netherlands monopolizes almost half of all the tax amount that Spain loses within the EU due to tax avoidance. According to ICEX data, dated May 31, all the large Spanish firms have an established presence in the Netherlands: Santander, Endesa, Gas Natural, Repsol and Telefónica, among others.

While the Dutch enter 39% of their corporate tax thanks to these corporate movements, it is Luxembourg that takes the most advantage, since 58% of their corporate tax income comes from this traveling money from multinationals.
In this context, it is understood how the debate between frugal countries and wasteful countries is conditioned by unfair tax competition. And Brussels, with its lists, instead of putting out the fire, lights it.

What Mark Rutte will achieve by his unsolidary attitude on pressing with his knee to the asphixia on the necks of the South European countries more hitted by the pandemia, is make it grow the legion of Euroesceptics which will go then to engross the ranks of the European far-right, to which he could then easily lost the next Dutch elections to be celebrated coming spring…
May be this is the desired outcome…at least at the other side of the Atlantic… and in Perfid Albion as well…Who are their Troy Horses into the EU?

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jul 19 2020 13:07 utc | 143

Peter AU1 @Jul19 7:12 #126

I feel his faction wanted to ally with or wanted to have detente with Russia for the purpose of taking down China. Some of what Kissinger was saying in the months after the election, I think also led in that direction.

Well, I do believe that Trump made one last-ditch attempt to bring Russia back to the Western fold. But that failed because Anglo Zionist Empire can’t offer anything like a true partnership.
IMO Obama or Trump’s “faction” is as much a ruse as the two-party system. There are no real factions. Unless you make distinctions like: Zionist or more zionist; Neoliberal or full-on fascist; pro-military or batshit-crazy war-monger, etc.
!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 19 2020 13:10 utc | 144

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jul 19 2020 13:07 utc | 143
Endesa, Gas Natural, Repsol and Telefónica, are the Spanish natural resources and basic infrastructures former national corporations privatized during the liberal governments of fake socialist Gonzalez ( currently seat at several of these corporations boards ), and far-right Aznar ( the one who was thanked for his support for the war on Iraq…)

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jul 19 2020 13:12 utc | 145

Lurk @Jul19 10:30 #131
Thanks Lurk.
The whole affair is shrouded in secrecy, obfuscation, and misdirection. Which is a ‘clue’ that whatever they’re hiding is very damaging to TPTB.
That’s why I believe it’s not simply that that Steele was creating opposition research for Clinton but something that is much more pernicious.
!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 19 2020 13:18 utc | 146

“Guyana Rejects U.S. Request to Air Propaganda to Venezuela”
another upstart

Posted by: arby | Jul 19 2020 13:43 utc | 147

Peter AU 1 @119–
Thanks for your reply! In my Critical Mass essay, I review the social contract AND the duties of citizens, the latter seldom if ever taught in schools unless you’re an immigrant and want to gain citizenship. In 2000, Nader emphasized the massive lack of citizen literacy and its complement Civic Illiteracy. Combined, they provide the breeding ground for citizen polarization as nobody’s guarding the hen house while arguments center on the color of one’s shirt or sports team. The Establishment Narrative is there’s foreign interference when the truth is there’s massive domestic fraud and corruption that’s at the root of most every malady within the Outlaw US Empire.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 19 2020 22:07 utc | 148

uncle tungsten | Jul 19 2020 9:22 utc | 128

Thank you, and if one was to drink a good Chinese spirit, what would that be?
I am partial to Lebanese Arak and Mexican Tequila so I should venture East too.

good Chinese spirit :
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= 🙂 there was an über fantastic plum brandy found in Shanghai
… ( still can not get it out of my mind )
= 🙁 there was a rice wine that dripped inadvertently down my chin …
… next morn there was a stain on hardwood floor …
… where the varnish was eaten away ! ( ~4 cm diameter )
… ( that ultra ridiculously cheap wine was 57 % )
Lebanese Arak :
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= you have intrigued me
venture East :
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= *Hangzhou* !! …
( There is a Chinese saying, 上有天堂, 下有苏杭
(pinyin: shàng yǒu tiāntáng, xià yǒu sūháng; literally
“above, there is heaven; below, there is Suzhou and Hangzhou”) )
( Marco Polo stated Hangzhou was most beautiful city he had seen )
( ~1400 km canal built in ~600 AD from Hangzhou to Beijing )
… … (( while Europa was in ~diapers ))
( = rent a bike there, first hour free ; circum-cycle West Lake)
( fields and fields of tea nearby )
= Nanjing previous China capital
( huge park dedicated to a ~founder of China Dr. Sun Yat-sen )
( street lined with sycamore trees )
( not as mentioned as the Beijings & Shanghais )
BTW :
(( Beijing Great Wall Badaling is the “bad” tourist one ))
(( … Mutanyu is the real one , farther away ))
BTW seriously plz :
Suggest image peek at Beijing Opera building !!
& “The Place” has/had world’s largest TV = 250 m x 30 m
To Paa-aaty :
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Beijing : Sanlitun area
Shanghai : Zapata’s
( ppl dance on the serving bar surface ~1.2 m up )
( every once in a while ppl lean back and gratis …
… bartender pours tequila shots into patrons’ mouths )
?ack plz? 🙂 info

Posted by: MegaMicro | Jul 20 2020 3:52 utc | 149

@Peter AU1 | Jul 19 2020 10:45 utc | 133
The German’s set up shop via Chinese concession in Qingdao 1898-1914
… hence their Chinese beer is German-based
Qingdao is the birthplace of Tsingtao beer
… and yep , the Tsingtao is a very tasty refreshing brew 🙂
( Aussie land visit is on me bucket list )

Posted by: MegaMicro | Jul 20 2020 4:20 utc | 150