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July 9, 2020
Open Thread 2020-54
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A Journey To LAC Which Took Indian Army 16-18 Days Now Takes Just 24 Hours, Here’s Why China’s Frustrated Posted by: Antonym | Jul 9 2020 15:01 utc | 2 @b Posted by: Doubter | Jul 9 2020 15:14 utc | 3 How to build a pure lie out of many half-truths: Posted by: Antonym | Jul 9 2020 15:01 utc | 2 Posted by: JC | Jul 9 2020 15:16 utc | 5 GOD DAMMIT B, IRAN SIGNED A DEAL W SYRIA FOR WEAPONS EXPORTS TO BUILD SYRIAS AIR DEFENSES, ISRAEL CARRIED OUT 6 STRIKES ON IRANIAN SOIL, VENEZUELA SHOT DOWN A PASSENGER PLANE, AND BROOKINGS SAYS YHE HOUTJIS WON…. SAY SOMETHING BUDDY! PAY ATTN! Posted by: karafspolo | Jul 9 2020 15:24 utc | 6 @ karafspolo, Posted by: Tim | Jul 9 2020 15:31 utc | 7 Back in the CHOICES thread, we had discussion on the US bullying Iran, and the semantics of whether the US was engaging in “war” against Iran. I hope not to get caught up in those semantics again, but here are a couple of good pieces to show the situation. Posted by: Grieved | Jul 9 2020 15:59 utc | 8 @Doubter | Jul 9 2020 15:14 utc | 3 Revealed: Saudi Arabia Tripled its Theft of Yemen’s Oil amid Price War with Russia https://www.mintpressnews.com/saudi-arabia-tripled-theft-yemen-oil-amid-price-war-russia/269209/ Mintpress one of the only places that does investative reporting on Yemen. Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Jul 9 2020 16:12 utc | 10 Vanity Fair sets the ground for Ghislaine Maxwell’s defense: Just another victim of monster Epstein:
<> <> <> <> <> <> Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 9 2020 16:28 utc | 11 vk @4 Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 9 2020 16:42 utc | 12 Latest M. K. Bhadrakumar articles, on China and Russia being forced to take self-defense steps against never-ending Western destabilization attempts. Posted by: Canadian Cents | Jul 9 2020 16:46 utc | 13 Ghislaine Maxwell’s best friend, Melania, urges schools to reopen so COVFEFE-19 can be spread even further and the death toll can be maximized. Death to teachers, right Melania? Because you care so much. Posted by: 450.org | Jul 9 2020 16:50 utc | 14
Not b Posted by: Michael Droy | Jul 9 2020 16:56 utc | 15 Sometimes I think some new posters are trying to get clicks. Posted by: arby | Jul 9 2020 17:09 utc | 16 Posted by: Canadian Cents | Jul 9 2020 16:46 utc | 13 Posted by: JC | Jul 9 2020 17:11 utc | 17 Posted by: Canadian Cents | Jul 9 2020 16:46 utc | 13 Posted by: JC | Jul 9 2020 17:11 utc | 18 Anyone know what’s going on in Serbia, it looks like another US backed colour revolution but it’s hard to see who they could replace the government with if they succeeded. If the US is behind this, I imagine we’ll see Russia push back somewhere else (Ukraine or Syria) soon. Posted by: Kadath | Jul 9 2020 17:11 utc | 19 @14
Posted by: 450.org | Jul 9 2020 17:26 utc | 20 Comment from Sam Bowne, a computer security teacher at CCSF here in San Francisco, on Twitter: Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jul 9 2020 17:27 utc | 21 #6 Posted by: arby | Jul 9 2020 17:29 utc | 22 Interesting article over at The Economic Collapse blog…which blog I don’t believe I’ve ever visited before, so I have little to say about its accuracy, although it links to several MSM stories.
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jul 9 2020 17:33 utc | 23 @20
I Really Don’t Care. Do U? Posted by: 450.org | Jul 9 2020 17:46 utc | 24 Charts show Bay Area’s coronavirus surge vs. hot spots in Arizona, Florida and Texas
The article says Bay Area hospitals are “straining”, but San Francisco isn’t doing at all badly based on the city’s virus statistics Web site. Most ICU and urgent care beds are still occupied by normal patients, and the death toll continues to increase *very* slowly, just a couple deaths every week or so. San Francisco clearly benefited from being one of the first counties to lock down in April. Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jul 9 2020 17:48 utc | 25 U.S. Foreign Aid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_foreign_aid#Overview Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Jul 9 2020 17:52 utc | 26 From The Hill…
Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jul 9 2020 17:54 utc | 27 arby @22 Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 9 2020 17:56 utc | 28 OK, Hack. There is a comment section for Covid on the previous blog. Posted by: arby | Jul 9 2020 18:02 utc | 29 More on BlueLeaks…
The only thing preventing me from downloading those is the size: 269GB is more than I want to download even using BitTorrent. Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jul 9 2020 18:17 utc | 30 Posted by: arby | Jul 9 2020 18:02 utc | 29 OK, Hack. There is a comment section for Covid on the previous blog. Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jul 9 2020 18:19 utc | 31 SF Mayor London Breed awaiting test results after being exposed to coronavirus Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jul 9 2020 18:25 utc | 32 Re that plane in Venezuela, are we talking about this here? Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Jul 9 2020 18:31 utc | 33 Twitter thread on Trump’s forcing students to go to face-to-face classes instead of online learning or be deported. This is by an immigration lawyer who is an author on several books on immigration. Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jul 9 2020 18:36 utc | 34 google translate Posted by: arby | Jul 9 2020 18:37 utc | 35 It kind of sounds like The US wanted to plant narcotics in Venezuela so as to implicate Maduro with their stupid accusation of him being a drug trafficker. Posted by: arby | Jul 9 2020 18:40 utc | 36 Christian J. Chuba @Jul9 17:52 #26
The Global War on Terror game. Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 9 2020 19:11 utc | 38 William Barr is working hard..that good willing boy..too bad for him and for fat mike that the load has been destroyed ..Strange way for an administration to be pro isolation anyway. Posted by: LuBa | Jul 9 2020 19:20 utc | 39 Breakthrough: Tuesday 4:20 PM, Vienna, America is given a COVID cure, Will it be withheld? Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Jul 9 2020 19:34 utc | 40 List of Collaborators and sellouts on FOX. I am only including the people who either do or should know better. I am excluding the morons like Hannity and Kilmeade, I realize that this is debatable. Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Jul 9 2020 20:27 utc | 41 – It seems the US has no intentions of reducing the amount of sactions against Lebanon. Posted by: Willy2 | Jul 9 2020 21:31 utc | 42 American democracy…. Two presidential candidates, one almost dead continue digging his own grave, while the other presidential candidate is half dead, even he if survives he’ll die before he starts/finishes his term…. Posted by: JC | Jul 9 2020 21:49 utc | 43 RT is reporting explosions and a power outage in Tehran, looks like the US/Israel have decided to push the maximum pressure campaign to 11, how will Iran respond? At some point Iran will need to respond with force (with plausible deniability) otherwise, the US/Israel will start targeting more and more important infrastructure, damaging power stations to trigger a blackout, even a temporary blackout, represents a major threat to any government. Hospitals and sanitation treatment will be disrupted and during a major pandemic the threat to public health will be extreme. Posted by: Kadath | Jul 9 2020 23:10 utc | 44 @8 Grieved. Well put, but those red lines you are referring to are being crossed these past days/ weeks in a massive way and if still covert may tip the balance into retaliation.. Posted by: Lozion | Jul 9 2020 23:11 utc | 45 @40 Chuba. Duff is the name of Springfield’s favorite beverage of Moe & the Gang.. Posted by: Lozion | Jul 9 2020 23:16 utc | 46 Lozion @Jul9 23:11 #45 Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 10 2020 0:21 utc | 47 re Christian J. Chuba | Jul 9 2020 17:52 utc | 26 Posted by: A User | Jul 10 2020 2:19 utc | 48 Just more example of Saint Trump draining the swamp /snark Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 10 2020 3:31 utc | 49 Anther three anti China propaganda articles today in the Australian news section of our government propaganda broadcaster. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 10 2020 7:26 utc | 50 I understand there are at least 3 separate schools of thought about defeating the covid19 virus among various governments around the world: Posted by: Paul | Jul 10 2020 10:50 utc | 51 The reopening of schools in 22 European countries has not led to any significant increase in coronavirus infections among children, parents or staff, a videoconference meeting of education ministers from around the EU has heard. Posted by: Down South | Jul 10 2020 11:17 utc | 52 @Lozion | 45 Posted by: AtaBrit | Jul 10 2020 12:16 utc | 53 A quick background on the Muslim Brotherhood by Kevork Almassian: Posted by: S | Jul 10 2020 12:26 utc | 54 @52
Posted by: 450.org | Jul 10 2020 12:55 utc | 55 @ Posted by: Paul | Jul 10 2020 10:50 utc | 51 Coronavirus cases surge in cities as Tokyo sets new record of 243 How I know they are lying about Iran, Venezuela, and China because the supremacists in D.C. lied about Iraq and they always use the same pattern. Posted by: Christian J. Chuba | Jul 10 2020 13:52 utc | 58 About Ghislaine Maxwell… Posted by: krypton | Jul 10 2020 14:13 utc | 59 On Ghislane, I like Xymphora’s guess. Posted by: arby | Jul 10 2020 14:27 utc | 60 Turkey’s state court has voted to annul the 1934 agreement turning Hagia Sopgia into a museum. Also Erodgan has tweeted that responsibility for the Hagia Sophia has now been handed to the Diyanet – the ministry of religious affairs – you may recall that the Diyanet opened Ramazan festival by reading a passage from the Quran which blames ‘pestilence’ and ‘disease’ (in this case Covid, of course) on homosexuals, those living ‘in sin’ and adulterers. Posted by: AtaBritt | Jul 10 2020 14:33 utc | 61 AtaBritt @ 62 Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 10 2020 14:56 utc | 62 “Glenn Greenwald Posted by: arby | Jul 10 2020 14:57 utc | 63 that’s one possible scenario, kypton. but why didn’t epstein do it? he was supposedly intelligent and calculating, too. then that leads to the question, why did they come to the u.s. at all? the whole affair is extremely murky, because of all the lies, and one person who could have cleared it all up is dead, and the other is in prison in the same city in which epstein got suicided. the prospect of maxwell ending up dead too is doubly worrisome, because that means our reactions don’t worry them at all. Posted by: pretzelattack | Jul 10 2020 14:59 utc | 64 @Mark2 | 62 )))))) Posted by: AtaBrit | Jul 10 2020 15:11 utc | 65 @S | 54 Posted by: AtaBrit | Jul 10 2020 15:19 utc | 66 pretzelattack, I also asked myself why Epstein wouldn’t have done something similar to protect himself. The only thing I could come up with is that he is actually safe somewhere and his alleged suicide was somehow faked as a cover. Yeah I know that seems pretty far out. Posted by: krypton | Jul 10 2020 15:39 utc | 67 To add to my previous post re Epstein Posted by: krypton | Jul 10 2020 15:49 utc | 68 Posted by: AtaBritt | Jul 10 2020 14:33 utc | 61 Posted by: LuBa | Jul 10 2020 16:05 utc | 69 How cute: Europeans think their “Human Rights Court” still has any credibility left and jurisdiction over Russia: They believe in God and only one God – the Money God, that is: Hagia Sophia a Masjid / S400 in Libya / Rus-Tur relationship deteriorating in Syria. Levant in Turmoil.. Posted by: Lozion | Jul 10 2020 18:06 utc | 72 Grieved @8– Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 10 2020 18:24 utc | 73 @ 450.org | Jul 9 2020 16:50 utc Posted by: ex-SA | Jul 10 2020 18:27 utc | 74 Activists Plan Protests At Politicians Houses Over Stimulus This Saturday! Posted by: Ashino | Jul 10 2020 18:39 utc | 75 @ 74 ex-SA … it is a very pretty town where she is from… we passed thru the town on a train going from ljubljana to zagreb… this train ride is worth taking if you are ever in the area travelling around.. Posted by: james | Jul 10 2020 18:51 utc | 76 @LuBa | 69 Posted by: AtaBrit | Jul 10 2020 19:51 utc | 77 John Bolton was invited to flog his anti-Trump book on DW’s Conflict Zone series hosted by Tim Sebastian on circa July 10. It’s fairly recent because Bolton had a little gloat about the several infrastructure ‘mishaps’ Iran has experienced recently. Bolton declined to say who he thinks the perps were but did say that he “hopes it was ‘Israel'” followed by a brief rant about what an evil menace Iran is and he’s hopeful that more, similar, attacks will continue until the “Regime” can be overthrown. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 10 2020 20:06 utc | 78 In other news… Posted by: Et Tu | Jul 10 2020 21:28 utc | 79 Some will find this report relating the infiltration of Trump’s Tulsa event amusingly worthy. I liked this portion: Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 10 2020 22:35 utc | 80 Last few months seems to have revealing effect on lot of analytical blogs I am following. Lot of them shown its true colors. Posted by: Abe | Jul 10 2020 23:24 utc | 81 @71 vk Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 11 2020 0:24 utc | 82 Abe @Jul10 23:24 #81
With that said, there are recent events that are very troubling and they all seem to point to things coming to a head this fall. I expect we’ll see something from b soon. Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 11 2020 0:48 utc | 83 Narco-agression now that really does fit he USA. No truer word was ever said. A good brief read at NEO. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 11 2020 1:07 utc | 84 Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 11 2020 0:48 utc | 83 Posted by: Abe | Jul 11 2020 1:14 utc | 85 @ 83 jr.. thanks… i pretty much view it the same… abe doesn’t mention the sites he holds in high esteem…. that is a revelation in itself as i see it.. b is a lot more diverse then the covid critics let on… but it seems if b hasn’t said what they want to hear on covid, they come to the conclusion all b focuses on is covid.. that is false… Posted by: james | Jul 11 2020 1:21 utc | 86 Now the scumbags and their useful idiots are out to silence Charles Dickens after all the good work and exposure of the evils of capitalism and feudalism. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 11 2020 1:31 utc | 87 james @Jul11 1:21 #86 Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 11 2020 1:45 utc | 88 @ jr.. his response to you @ 85 was thoughtful…. i agree with him in that there are a lot of unknowns around covid and that it is a contentious issue for many too.. Posted by: james | Jul 11 2020 1:48 utc | 89 james @Jul11 1:21 #86>blockquote>roger stone had his sentence commuted… Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 11 2020 1:52 utc | 90 karafspolo | Jul 9 2020 15:24 utc | 6: Posted by: Ian2 | Jul 11 2020 3:17 utc | 91 Jackrabbit # 90
Exactly that. Trump was given his script well before November 2016. He may even have been presented with a gold engraved 45 thumb drive with the unedited version of the Zapruder movie just to make things unambiguous. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 11 2020 3:52 utc | 92 @92 Uncle Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 11 2020 4:14 utc | 93 @ debsisdead Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 11 2020 5:20 utc | 94 Abe #81 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 11 2020 6:26 utc | 95 NemesisCalling #93 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 11 2020 6:38 utc | 96 A leaf out of the old National Socialist book of Reichstag operating protocols:
More here if you wish. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 11 2020 6:57 utc | 97 Jimmy Dore craps on the Bernie/Biden sham show. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 11 2020 7:07 utc | 98 Ref Istanbul Hagia Sophia, Posted by: Mina | Jul 11 2020 8:42 utc | 99 Matt and Katie are opening their show this week with a great support story for Glenn Greenwald on the very nice relationship between the Democrazis and Liz Cheney to block the withdrawal of USA invaders from Afghanistan. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 11 2020 9:48 utc | 100 |
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