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June 02, 2020

Trump Calls Up Military For 'Law And Order' Campaign Stunt

Yesterday's protests over the murder of George Floyd seemed smaller to me. A few hundred people in this or that city. There seem to have been more people on the march in New Zealand than in New York City. From what I can tell the store break ins and looting were likewise reduced. Some people, mostly not protesters, are just using the opportunity. For the real looting is happening elsewhere. Just look at Blackrock.

U.S. President Donald Trump is using the relatively few incidents to divert the attention from his abysmal handling of the Covid-19 pandemic.

It is now all about Trump as "commander in chief" who brings "law and order" for "god and country". If that requires to violently clear a park of peaceful protesters or to teargas a priest in front of his church - all so Trump can stage a photo op where he upholds a bible - so be it. While Trump is in full campaign mode the Democrats seem numbed.

The militarized response the nutters around Trump call for is way out of proportion.

Washington DC has seen a bizarre "show of force" with helicopters hovering much lower than allowed over crowds of peaceful people. The Secretary of Defense has called on governors to "dominate the battlespace". The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Army General Matt Milley was seen patrolling around the White House in camouflage uniform. The cheerboys of the military are not happy with this.

Last night a large number of military transport planes carrying troops of the 82nd Airborne Division, 10th Mountain Division and 1st Infantry Division arrived at Andrews Airbase near Washington DC. These units lost the wars in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq and Somalia. They probably think it is easier to win a war in the midwest than in the Middle East. We'll see ...

But who will they actually be fighting against? The violence enticing Antifa account on Twitter that turned out to be run by fascists in Europe? The "Interim Government of the United Socialist States of America" (@USSInterimGOV)? The "Free American Army" (@FAARMYOfficial)? The Jaish al-Chicago and the KFC Brigades? All of them? Well, that's gonna be a hell of a war on parody accounts.

And a war on the press. In the past four days there were more than 125 incidents in which police attacked journalists. But the media still repeat police reports as if they were the one and only truth:

Despite what our colleagues of color have been saying for years, the clear history of police abusing protesters and the press, too many outlets continue to cover the police credulously.

Policing in the U.S. has been going wrong for a long time:

Commissioners demanded captains deliver numbers and captains began browbeating lesser officers, who in turn pushed quotas on patrol cops, for reasons that often had nothing to do with crime. As depicted in the The Wire, in the stats revolution, “shit always rolls downhill.” The point was to get lieutenants promoted to captain, to get mayors re-elected, and help provide the rationale for the prison jobs state legislators were bringing home to suburban districts. All of this was greased by the lobbying money of construction firms, prison vendors, even private prison corporations – a great business for all, and all that was needed to keep it going was an endless stream of jailable people.

On top of that the IQ of the average policeman seems to be quite low. I mean - why would he do this?


This (vid) must be seen to be believed:

A Fox News reporter tries live on air to stop the police in LA arresting the (not white) owners of a shop who had flagged down the officers to help them stop potential looters. The actual alleged looters ran off. It sums so much up #GeorgeFloydProtests

Replacing the police with the military will only escalate the situation. Violence begets violence. But creating more 'resistance' may well be Trump's plan.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is today meeting with "Tiananmen Square survivors". He will probably ask how China managed to suppress that U.S. sponsored insurgency. Can Trump learn from it? Is a Tiananmen like moment what Trump wants to happen to rally his base? Or is it all just a head fake that will be canceled in time?

Has someone in the White House considered how much damage these bizarre developments do to U.S. soft power and its foreign policy? U.S. adversaries point out the hypocrisy of U.S. behavior at home and its rhetoric against them. U.S. allies just cringe.

An Australian TV crew was punched by police live on air. The Australian Prime Minister called for an investigation. A crew of the German government financed DW News was attacked twice by police plus threatened with arrest. This caused the German Foreign Minister to speak out against targeting journalists.

These U.S. 'allies' have to explain their population why they still succumb to U.S. policies. That part of their job is getting harder and harder. 

If Trump sends in the military it will become impossible.

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@ Petri Krohn 15

Reforming/changing the political system alone will not help.

What needs to change is the way people are allowed to interact with each other. Ergo, what needs to change is the monetary system.

You can establish a kingdom, a republic or a dictatorship of either leftist or rightist persuasion but, for as long as social/economic activity is circumscribed by a centrally planned and enforced monetary system, the progression will be the same.

All political systems have collapsed throughout history. What brings about the demise of a system is always a fiscal impasse.

Historically speaking, there is no way to avoid a fiscal impasse for any power structure. You can only hope to stretch out in time the final conflagration.

The choice is binary in fact.

You can establish a system that is initially liberal but that gradually transfers wealth into the hands of the few. This is what we euphemistically call capitalism.

With a centrally planned monetary system however, the concept of Capitalism is moot. It is in fact in all similar to Feudalism whereby the lord allows you to toil in return for a progressively smaller percentage of your production for your livelihood.

The Capitalist Network That Runs The World

You can establish a system whereby the wealth starts out in the hands of the few who manage the resources and plan the economy.

Both systems have their merits. Both systems will self destruct.

Capitalism emerged from the Renaissance and had its best run till the 1910s. Neo-Feudalism has been gradually gaining the upper hand since then.

Today, we are all, by and large, in the hands of the monetary authority. Today, directly or indirectly, we are all in the hands of the finance industry. Whether you perceive a pension or you are engaged in any sort of economic activity, you are beholden to the whims of the finance industry. Even when you have no debt and you are not dependent on a pension, the mere fact that you must use money to live your life, subjects you to the whims of the monetary authority.

In January of 2000, the various national currencies of Europe ceased to exist and a new currency at varying degrees of devaluation was issued.

Cancelling the currency is a well worn tactic of tin pot dictators. See Zimbabwe as a more glaring example; one amongst many.

So, the political system is, to a large degree, inconsequential.

What matters is how you allow individuals to interact and whether or not you allow them to retain the wealth they produce.

Posted by: guidoamm | Jun 3 2020 2:32 utc | 101

Anyone taking odds on the start date of US Civil War Mk2?

Didn't think so.

Anyone surprised by recent developments is either functionally stupid or has been incommunicado fopr the last 80 or so years.

Hopefully the internal descent to chaos marks an end to the US as a means of international meddling by the Zionist/Israeli cabal.

Posted by: eagle eye | Jun 3 2020 2:39 utc | 102

@ vinnieoh 55

Money and, more specifically, the credit markets is what you want to target.

Credit markets are susceptible to leverage.

So, in theory, if everyone cut the banks out of their lives, leverage would unwind rather quickly.

Cutting out banks means hoarding cash and shutting down lines of credit.

How many individuals can do that? How many small companies can do that?

Note too, that hoarding cash is gradually becoming illegal.

In Switzerland for example, that presumed bastion of degenerate capitalists, it is forbidden to stash cash in safety deposit boxes. Similarly, capital controls in France and Italy specifically hinder if not forbid holding gold. Gold transactions are now subject to reporting for example.

So, yes, the system can be short circuited in theory. In practice however, few would or could take the initiative to do it.

Posted by: guidoamm | Jun 3 2020 2:51 utc | 103

agree with most of 81 and 92 RSH @ 81 and 92. but there is much more the anti federalist wrote many papers.. most of the were not published. money was not on the side of the masses. And Colonel Shay was a major party to the success of aristocrat George rich man Washington at Valley Forge, it was Shay's men that fought much of that battle.


It is illegal to advocate the overthrow of the United States Government, K @ 15 Yes, it is a violation of human rights to deny the right of self determination. <= what is the purpose of throw the bums out voting, if it is illegal to actually throw the bums out? No where in the constitution can I find replacing one constitution with a new one to be off limits, prohibited or denied? Please point out where the constitution speaks to that?

Of course the sitting government might not be happy to play by a new set of rules, and the Oligarchs and monopoly powered corporations who have used the government to abuse the people might be upset, and do as they always do, raise mercenary armies to force their way, but who cares?

I think the question is can a place in the constitution be found that says the constitution itself cannot be replaced by the same process or inverse of the same process it was created by? Interestingly, the Articles of Confederation said the Articles would be perpetual, but the Constitution replaced the Articles of
Confederation in just 11 years is silent at its termination date.

Is it unconstitutional to toss one constitution out for another new one? <=Read Article VII. The Founders put a neat little clause in their Philadelphia 1787-88 constitutional proposal (replace one set of founding documents with another, they did not replace the government, which was probably illegal also, they even keep the name (the United States of America, they just replaced the founders and the rules; and they did this by substituting new founders' documents for the old founders's document).

The Philadelphia Founders used ratification to change the rules and to make themselves founder of the republican form of government? Why, because they were unhappy with the democratic (John Hancock, first President, 1776-1788) form of government but the masses were very happy with it. The Philadelphia founders invented ratification as the means by which they would extract state rights into Federalism and squeeze democracy into a republic. Replacing the rules those in government must govern by, instead of those who operate the government, seems very civil to me. There may be precedent in the very constitution congress assembles under, . read Article VII and tell me what you think? Also a longer route is already in the constitution. it has do with amending the constitution.

I think ratification should have been named environment variable reconfiguration because constitutions configure the environment variables settings and values; and it is these settings and values that control the way the governors must operate, and because settings and values change the rights of those that are to be governed, but then who am I to make suggestions, IANAL

The US electoral system has never offered voters a choice PK @ 15<==Snake says The two party system is continued because it controls the secret negotiations that determine the outcome of electoral college votes. The joke has been on the voters, they caste a ballot, thinking they are voting for the president, but no ordinary citizen can vote for either of the Article II (president and vP) persons, at least that is how the constitution reads to me. <=voting for President and VP is reserved by constitution to electoral college members. See Article II, section 3 and amendment 12 of the 1788 founders constitution.

Most Americans, both Left and Right want radical change. . by: Petri Krohn @ 15<= but can those who want change peacefully negotiate for constitutional terms in a democratic process? Who will keep the corporate mercenary armies from interfering? Today's Internet can enable everyone to participate.. a constitution and the government it enables should be majority agreed. If only Congress would enforce the Bill of Rights Amendments (BORA) so search engines, tracking technology, and political media labeled social media and artificial intelligence cannot be used to abuse human or constitutional rights, negotiations between the governors and the governed might be easy.

I think it is necessary to really study the constitutions the federal as well as the state constitutions to see if a bright line path is available for a grass root effort to restore democracy to those that live under constitutional government.

Leave the governors alone, it won't even matter if the governors stay in power, instead find a way to change the rules the governors are allowed to operate by and a way to make them enforce the rules.
Constitutions are laws that rulers must comply with, Laws are rules the governed must comply with. .

It many not be replacement, may not be amendment, it may merely be, that the governed in the nation need to come together and force those who operate the government under the existing constitution do so in accord with the existing constitution. The governors can start by enforcing the Bill of Rights Amendments (BORA) because, I believe, enforcement of BORA would deny search engines, social media and technology any right to invade homes, snoop on their private activities and it would stop media providers from preventing people, websites and alternative media from gaining equal and unlimited access to media.. IMO but IANAL

Posted by: snake | Jun 3 2020 2:51 utc | 104

It was always going to come to this

Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Jun 3 2020 3:07 utc | 105

@ - all

Didn't mean to disappear; had to prepare the evening meal.

Karloff: when it was apparent that business as usual was out the window for ? long, the first thing I thought of was at least debt suspension, but a debt jubilee would be a much better solution. If our masters need us - and I think we could "convince" them that they do - this would be the solution. We may not need to convince them; almost a month ago now DeWine in Ohio and some fed pols were arguing for punishments for workers who refused to return to work for the reason of risk to their health.

AntiSpin: I should probably look at your link before replying (and I will in a moment) but are you referring to the stock market, or some other metric(s)? As for the stock market, all speculation and funny money. I knew the '08 crash was coming some time before it actually did, and I am no financial savant. There was no way the highly manipulated "value" that was being traded on was there. It was all funny money, just like in '29. Then (so soon we forget) there was (is) the oil glut and Russia and KSA getting into a pissing match and adding more to the glut.

Also, I didn't mean to imply that the reasons weren't to be had; the point was, why isn't this question at the head of the line of the public discourse? Conversely: why have some nations, who will remain un-named, look like they will survive this both in terms of health outcome, and economically treat it as a random but manageable interruption that does not upset their entire apple cart? Again, I'm asking rhetorical questions. The truth IS OUT THERE, but the official narrative will have no part of it.

Posted by: vinnieoh | Jun 3 2020 3:17 utc | 106

It is 11:25 ET. Watching live feed from LA, on CNN. I can hardly see a black person in the crowd. Does it mean black people do not care about protest anymore, or whites took over, and are now representing blacks?

Whenever white people represent blacks, it ends bad for blacks.

Am I missing something?

Posted by: anemona | Jun 3 2020 3:29 utc | 107

San Francisco press updates...

During the day, all was trouble-free in San Francisco as upwards of 1,000 people marched down the Great Highway and gathered at Ocean Beach on Tuesday under the clear blue afternoon sky. The event, billed as Sunset Solidarity March for Black Lives Matter, began around 11 a.m. and was peaceful, a police officer said.
By 3:45 p.m., the marchers had concluded as police vans were lined up on Sloat Boulevard, where roughly a dozen officers carrying batons and zip ties prepared to depart. One carried stacked boxes of Escape from New York Pizza.

In Alameda County, black families earn a median of $71,800 — compared to a median income of $138,400 for white families and $148,400 for Asian families, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

In Redwood City, which has not been the site of any major protests yet, about 2,000 demonstrators gathered in front of the old San Mateo County courthouse around 4 p.m., with speakers addressing the crowd hours before an 8:30 p.m. San Mateo County curfew. It was organized in part by Tiffany Medrano-Martinez, 14, who said she could have never imagined she’d be standing in front of hundreds of people that less than a week after graduating from Our Lady of Mount Carmel School in Redwood City. Medrano-Martinez said in an interview that she was in her cap and gown having a celebratory dinner with her family when she asked her brother to help her design a protest flyer to excoriate the “horrible injustice” of the police killing of Floyd. That flyer was shared by hundreds of people on social media. “I was expecting 50 people,” Medrano-Martinez said. “I feel so proud and I feel so much love.” Medrano-Martinez took to the steps of the old San Mateo County courthouse and in tears gave a rousing speech to protesters followed by chanting. “I don’t have a lot of friends, I’m only friends with about 10 people,” Medrano-Martinez said. “I’m not a huge social butterfly so it’s crazy that this many people came to support.”

The protesters were met with a limited police presence, in stark contrast to police reaction to protesters across the Bay Area in the past several days. That was “by design,” said Redwood City Chief of Police Dan Mulholland. “You’re not seeing people in riot gear,” Mulholland said. “It’s symbolic of the message we are trying to get across which is that you are welcome here and we’re here to support you.”

At around 6:30 p.m., hundreds of people began marching down Broadway Avenue in Redwood City toward Woodside Road. Redwood City police officers, joined by others from surrounding police departments, swarmed on the 76 gas station on Broadway and Chestnut Street where seven men were posted up with shotguns and pistols “ready to defend their property,” police said. Speeding toward the crowd in a motorcycle, one Redwood City Police officer asked the crowd to stay put while police arrested the seven men. No more details are available at this time.

In San Francisco, more than 1,000 people marched down the Great Highway, hugging the Pacific coast, from Sloat Boulevard to Lincoln Way, around 1 p.m., far from the usual epicenter of protests in the city around San Francisco City Hall and the United Nations Plaza.

Officer Knee to Neck Restraint Not Allowed by Most Bay Area Agencies

To quote a line from the Serenity movie:
Capt. Malcolm "Mal" Reynolds: I don't plan on any shooting taking place during this job.
Jayne: Yeah, well, what you plan and what takes place ain't ever exactly been similar.

June 2, 10 a.m. Clutching a Bible, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called upon President Donald Trump to tone down divisive rhetoric when discussing the George Floyd protests, saying that he "has a responsibility to heal."

How lame is that - trying to copy Trump by holding a bible? Like anyone over the age of four can't see through that...

June 2, 10:05 a.m. A Bay Area woman and horse ranch owner captured the attention of Oakland protesters Monday night when she rode her horse, Dapper Dan, down city streets wielding a Black Lives Matter sign. In an interview with KQED, the rider, Brianna Noble, said she decided to take her horse to the protest to "kind of change the narrative of what's going on," and give people "a good, bright, positive image to focus on, as opposed to some of the destruction." Noble added that this protest is bigger than just the death of George Floyd. "People are angry about what's happened, and we need to change an entire criminal justice system," she said.

June 2, noon While most Bay Area cities are enforcing curfews beginning at 8 p.m. or 8:30 p.m., some are setting the start time earlier. Pleasant Hill's begins at 7 p.m., while San Leandro's curfew is scheduled for 6 p.m. On Tuesday, Antioch also enacted an earlier curfew, now set to begin at 6 p.m. The new curfew time is in effect until Wednesday, and supercedes Contra Costa County's curfew, which has been set at 8 p.m. until further notice.

Palo Alto, however, took the surprising step of extending its curfew order 10 days. The curfew will be in effect in the city between the hours of 8:30 p.m. to 5 a.m. until June 11, or earlier if lifted before then. The city cited an onslaught of groups "not in any way engaged in legitimate First Amendment activity [who] have planned and executed criminal acts, including property damage and theft ... during nighttime hours."

June 2, 4:20 p.m. The Alameda County Sheriff's Office reported Tuesday afternoon that officers booked 122 individuals into the Santa Rita jail Monday. Of those 122, 82 were "not from Alameda County cities," and several were not from the area at all. The Sheriff's Office did not disclose where those individuals came from. All together, the 122 people booked into the jail were charged with 382 various felony crimes, "from serious violence, robbery, burglary, looting, pursuits, stolen vehicles, weapons, drugs etc."

Still the "they're not local" narrative...

LATEST June 2, 7:05 p.m. At a peaceful protest in Marin City, the sister of the late Tupac Shakur spoke. “We are worthy," Sekyiwa Shakur said. "We are not disposable. Each one of you is just as precious as George Floyd, as Tupac Shakur.” Bad audio but still a powerful message from Tupac’s sister, Sekyiwa Shakur, in Marin City. “We are worthy. We are not disposable. Each one of you is just as precious as George Floyd, as Tupac Shakur.”
— Liz Kreutz (@ABCLiz) June 2, 2020

Otherwise, San Francisco seems quiet so far tonight. No police sirens, no helicopters, no spotter planes.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 3 2020 3:31 utc | 108

AntiSpin @95

Followed your link. I don't consider the stock market a good metric of anything, except speculation. I was laughing before I finished the piece. I have no idea what knowledge the author believed was contained in the first chart, except to give credence to the referenced rather unlikely theory. What the second chart clearly shows is the speculative reaction to all of the predictions being made of what was about to happen DIRECTLY TIME CORRELATED, before the predictions began to come true. The latter half of that same dual chart also reflects speculative emergence wrt "recovery" and the decline of the first wave.

Posted by: vinnieoh | Jun 3 2020 4:04 utc | 109

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 3 2020 3:31 utc | 106

Please continue posting... I'm from Central Valley all quiet here. Shit!

Posted by: JC | Jun 3 2020 4:34 utc | 110

Thank you, Mr. Hack @ 106, that is good to read. I just finished reading the transcript of Biden's speech. I dressed down Trump earlier for not sounding like a president. Equally, but oppositely, Biden completely misses the boat. This is not a time for such campaign - I was going to say 'platitudes' but it's not the right word. The word I want to use is 'hijack' - he hijacks the last words of a dying man, blithely turning them into a segue -- and there it is, the campaign speech. This isn't about just one man's! Sorry, sir, but it is! This event, here and now, this one - don't go on about all of history needing to begin to be rectified and you are the one to do it, or back ten thousand years and this or that ism. One man died. Don't you dare use him as a campaign icon! Don't use his grieving brother!!

We have been witness to a horrible crime being perpetrated as a public display, possibly planned to cause death and destruction (bricks -- what about the bricks???)for the residents of a widespread number of cities. b has reported on policemen involved in the violence, not only in the original death, other cities in other states. There is more to this terrible crime, but it has nothing to do with your presidential aspirations! Something is truly rotten in the federal system - maybe in some states as well, but not all, and certainly not all the people. If they are not attacked, the protesters will honor the memory of this peaceful man. And some police forces will honor them as well.

The importance of Biden's speech is in what he did not say, not in what he said. And all I can say is, can't either of you parties which have usurped the power of citizens to field candidates in the coming election ---can't either of you come up with characters better than these??

Oh yes, something Biden did say at the very last - he had to throw in a curve ball about Russia and China. Great.

The electoral process has been thoroughly trashed. And we can't say we haven't been warned. This is what they have to offer us.

Thank you, peaceful protesters all. You are the goodness of this country. I was wrong to suggest you stop the protests. They can be about many things, to each what is important, but they are not about the coming election. karlof1 mentioned the Shay Rebellion, which was a dividing event between two presidents, Adams and Jefferson. Each in his way of far greater stature than those who aspire to the office today. And they became friends, dying within hours of each other on the 4th of July. Sometimes history gets touched by eternity, you can't make it up; it just happens that way. It's time for this country to make some more of that kind of history. Heart history.

I'll just close wishing George Floyd's family peace and comfort. Many good hearts mourn with you, even worldwide. God bless.

Posted by: juliania | Jun 3 2020 4:43 utc | 111


roman govt in judea found Jesus dint incite the people to revolt and proclaim Himself king. It was the religious leaders and their mob who want to crucify Jesus. Thus the punishment and banishment came to all israeli when they follow their own who want to be king as predicted..

Posted by: milomilo | Jun 3 2020 4:51 utc | 112

Pro. K.'s summary at 45 is spot on, and Nemesis Calling at 45 has crafted their opinions in an excellent and amusing comment. I concur..... I find the political co-option of blacks to a proscribed albeit confused cause undignified. It smacks exploitation, condescension and the same old same old, but the nuance is lost on the more zealous readers. Rascism! This is the same strategy as the Zionists with the canard of anti-semitism.
Why do so many Americans endorse zealotry? Is it your Puritan heritage, or have you so utterly immersed your imagination and intellect in Hollywood movies that reality can not be distinguished? Please, give me a definition of that word "fascist", or is it a style, a brand that is recognised by visual cues? Also "troll"? Apparently movie knowledge is a prerequisite for this history resistant nation, as political "forward planning" becomes increasingly to resemble movie scripts with actors, directors and producers, who then try to create a real scenario based on - you guessed it, a movie. (For e. g. Thierry Meyssan on "Red Dawn"). I'll always say this :the Iranians have always made the best movies. Watch any Iranian movie. It will have more nuancing than you will be able to wrap your head around! Hollywood thinks convoluted narrative with spectacular violence is the cauldron for storytelling and heroic display, but Trump ignominiously killed a real Iranian hero by remote control. The symbolism is not lost on the world. He really needs sane advice on the symbolic image. What was once amusing - Trump as the crazy face of the American Republic - has now taken on an overwhelming pathos.
Lastly, is there anything more nihilistic than a zealous anarchist? Mr Hack has given himself star billing, but I suggest he refines his understanding of philosophy. Ideology it ain't!

Posted by: Australian lady | Jun 3 2020 4:54 utc | 113

See here , americans are so blinded by their artificial divide of left/right liberal/conservative that they are stuck in infinite loop trying to view things from this fake divide.

people outside america knew the systemic problem in US policies are not based on democrat or republic as they are two feces of the same coin..

Posted by: milomilo | Jun 3 2020 4:54 utc | 114

Politics is about religion, albeit a secular religion. Right vs Left. Us vs Them. Its about Faith and Not Reason. People don’t want to give up their faith. Its comforting. The 2 party system makes Kayfabe a superb tactic. Trump is a master at Fake Wrestling

I believe that Trumps mission all along has been discredit democracy in the eyes of the world, destroying the false 2 party democracy into a single party Fascist State broken into regions along FEMA’s lines. The Nazis biggest supporters were US Industrialists and Finance. After the war we brought over many Nazi scientists and intelligence officers who should have been hung. Fascism wasn’t defeated in Germany. It underwent a diaspora renaming its ideologies of fascism and eugenics to democratic Neoliberalism and Reproductive management/genetics. We are entering the 4th Reich. Also known as the 4th Industrial (Technocratic) Revolution. Order out of Chaos. Trump is also a Master of Chaos.

At the end of the day the right and left will undergo a synthesis. People will wearily and desperately accept an authoritarian state like China which has been built up as the model Technocratic government the rest of the world will follow. Sustainable Development requires population reduction. That will follow. The Deagel population prediction may be correct

Posted by: Kay Fabe | Jun 3 2020 5:13 utc | 115


Yes, the Biden campaign limps sadly along, as those of good conscience look on in disbelief and despair.

But that artificial demarcation - THE NEW YEAR - ushered in something truly novel - The Year of the Bat.

Everything's on the table, or off of it, depending on your personal prognosis or perspective.

Posted by: vinnieoh | Jun 3 2020 5:35 utc | 116

Posted by: Australian lady | Jun 3 2020 4:54 utc | 111 Lastly, is there anything more nihilistic than a zealous anarchist? Mr Hack has given himself star billing, but I suggest he refines his understanding of philosophy. Ideology it ain't!

Yeah, OK, I'll ask Mr. Nietzsche about that... Or Max Stirner...

Russian Nihilist movement
‘Strike out, right and left!’: a conceptual-historical analysis of 1860s Russian nihilism and its notion of negation
Nihilism, Anarchy, and the 21st century

People use the term "nihilism" without having a clue what it actually means... Nor does conflating it with anarchism - which has numerous offshoots that are entirely unconnected with nihilism (although some most certainly are) - helpful.

But a discussion of this stuff would be, in my view, off-topic here.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 3 2020 5:37 utc | 117

Since it is nighttime in the USA, Caitlin Johnstone is helpfully providing both a bedtime story and a wake-up story to enjoy:

We Are Watching The Story Of America Crash Headlong Into The Reality Of America

Sweet Dreams ... or Nightmares.

Posted by: ak74 | Jun 3 2020 6:27 utc | 118

From a link in Caitlin's story...

The guys in these pictures are not wearing *any* identification. No one (allegedly) knows who they are, and they (allegedly) refuse to identify themselves except as "Department of Justice."

Maybe that character in this thread who suggested "non-human clones" would be deployed was on to something... :-)

Now I *can* understand situations where US military personnel should not be required to identify themselves, if they are going to be deployed overseas or risk retaliation against their families, or whatever. That simply doesn't apply in the US, at least not for "Department of Justice" personnel who are not assigned to units who do "undercover" work, or the like. Sure, you can ask that they not identify themselves by name - but not by *unit*? Or *agency*? Are we supposed to think the Russians or the Chinese are going to get some sort of serious "intel" based on these guys identifying their unit? Get real.

That's bullshit. And if they're *not* official US personnel - if they're private contractors - then it's doubly bullshit. The US public has a right to know *who* is being recruited to threaten them in the name of "national security*.

Otherwise, as far as I'm concerned, these guys are just "legitimate targets". And any sniper who wants to take a shot at them has my blessing.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 3 2020 7:34 utc | 119

Someone in the Twitter thread claims those guys are "Bureau of Prisons".

Yeah, I can tell you from experience that those are the *last* guys you want threatening American citizens...

When I was at Leavenworth, I spoke to an inmate who was at one of the prisons involved in the riots of 1993 (or was it 1994 - can't remember the exact tome period). Several Federal prisons erupted in riots over the failure of Congress to adjust the "mandatory sentences" for crack cocaine. This inmate told me what happened at the prison he was at. He was already in the Special Housing Unit (SHU) for a minor infraction when the riots cooked off. Guards came to the cells of the SHU, ordered the prisons to submit to being handcuffed. They then Maced the inmates in the face, dragged them out of their cells, threw them down stairs, beat, stomped, and batoned them, and then ordered to remain still in their own blood and faeces. If they didn't, they were beaten again. As per regulations, all of this was videotaped by correctional officers. When the inmates filed a law suit against the B.O.P, the FBI came in and seized the videotapes. Once the FBI got through "analyzing" the "evidence", the tapes were worthless as evidence, according to documents the inmate showed me from the pro bono attorneys handling their case. The inmates were advised to drop the case due to the "lack of evidence."

I had my own run-ins with C.O.s during my time - although nothing where I was beaten (just pushed around a bit.)

People forget that the Iraq Abu Ghraib prison was set up by American prison officials from states whose prisons were under judicial oversight due to "cruel and unusual punishment" decisions by the courts. And that one of the main US soldiers charged with abuse was a National Guardsman who worked as a prison guard.

Yeah, if these guys are B.O.P., then my statement above about my "blessing" goes times 10.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 3 2020 8:03 utc | 120

On top of that the IQ of the average policeman seems to be quite low. I mean - why would he do this?

A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city.

The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York upheld a lower court’s decision that the city did not discriminate against Robert Jordan because the same standards were applied to everyone who took the test.

Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.

The average score nationally for police officers is 21 to 22, the equivalent of an IQ of 104, or just a little above average.

Posted by: Mao | Jun 3 2020 8:14 utc | 121

Campaign stunt sigh, uh most americans support sending in the National Guard and many support military aid too

Posted by: Zanon | Jun 3 2020 8:15 utc | 122

If they said they were DoJ they probably were. If you're worried they're something suspicious you could call the cops… :P (or at least the local mayor's office or something like that, somewhere that could officially confirm or deny, hell why not call the DoJ).

The "internal armies" of various US departments/ministries are very much official and publicly funded; one such group's large equipment order for weapons and bullets etc. was a fairly big story in the news a year or two ago. The reason for their existence is that neither US military nor US police are tasked with or can be relied on to prioritize providing security services for the departments.

Last time I heard mention of a group like that was when they were providing armed security during distribution of food during some flood or other crisis like that a few years ago. My impression is that they were very good at their job which was to be silently intimidating enough to keep people from trying to pull any funny business, in this case steal food or cause a disturbance in the distribution of food and so on.

Basically the US federal version of a couple of guys with (semi-)automatic rifles guarding a shop. Okay and maybe a helicopter or two, and a couple of hundred more people on call etc.

It stops people showing their "entitlement" around (doing that seems to have become the actual definition of "american").

I'm sure the DoJ "army" will have a different task, it could be as simple as providing additional somewhat-military-level security for an investigative branch so that they can actually do their job rather than worry about who might be sneaking up on them or whether the building they're in will be burnt down the next half hour.

From the picture it looks like they're providing simple straight-up temporary area awareness.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 3 2020 8:38 utc | 123

The Reagan administration had a plan called Rex 84 to jail protestors. Could this be a framework for the Trump administration today? The violent response of the police has similarities with French police attacks on Yellow Vest protestors.

Posted by: Edward | Jun 3 2020 8:40 utc | 124

Rex 84 is discussed here:

Posted by: Edward | Jun 3 2020 8:42 utc | 125

A Richmond man was arrested this week on suspicion of murder and was reportedly found attempting to eat the victim's body when law enforcement officers arrived, a police spokesman said Tuesday.

Police received a report around 2:10 p.m. Monday of a woman on the ground bleeding and a man standing near her at a residence on the 1200 block of Club Court, according to Richmond police spokesman Sgt. Aaron Pomeroy.

Officers arrived at the residence to find 37-year-old Dwayne Wallick standing over 90-year-old Ruby Wallick, his grandmother, and digging in her flesh.

Officers used a Taser stun gun to partially subdue Dwayne Wallick before a physical altercation was required to handcuff him. Paramedics declared Ruby Wallick dead at the scene.

Dwayne Wallick was taken to a hospital for a physical health evaluation, according to Pomeroy. He will be booked into the Martinez Detention Facility once he is released from the hospital.

Posted by: Mao | Jun 3 2020 8:54 utc | 126

"…on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training."

I can't say if they do the same for any police (I doubt it, I think you have to study several years to become entry-level police in most of Europe) but except from that at least in Europe the reasoning is very common everywhere both in public and private employment and makes more sense than I like to admit; it's why a lot of university graduates end up working in coffee shops or flipping burgers (or in lovely postal services! I loved my time there) because those places are mostly (Mostly! Not exclusively!) unskilled enough that they don't care. It's either that or call centers for those "too educated" until they get a "proper job" :|

I suspect I never had better educated co-workers than when I worked at the local postal service :D Afterwards I went on to be a teacher at a polytechnic level school and while there were some really well educated people there (particularly an astrophysicist) I don't think they managed to beat the credentials of the "postal gang" XD (during summer mind you).

(Apologies for dragging my ancient past into this lol).

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 3 2020 8:56 utc | 127

What he's done to our country...

Posted by: Mao | Jun 3 2020 9:01 utc | 128

JC #108

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 3 2020 3:31 utc | 106

Please continue posting... I'm from Central Valley all quiet here. Shit!

The question I ponder is whether Trump calling in the extreme murderers be sufficient to quell the immediate violence and rage against property but not the demonstrations. Much was learned from the valiant persistence of the gilet jaunes in France. Macron responded to the covid-19 circumstance by banning everyone from the streets in groups. That is what saved his wretched neck.

So will the actioning of the mega killers be sufficient to subdue all protest or just the molotov cocktail and concrete set? From what I read of your posts - calm has returned and the pyrotechnic wing of the state has been stood down.

I trust that persistent presence and vigils will be sufficient to confront the TrumpBiden Minotaur.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 3 2020 9:31 utc | 129

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 2 2020 22:13 utc | 58

Agree completely.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 2 2020 23:27 utc | 74

Well, is either a wealth tax: global or US, or an MBS style shake down. What shall it be? Who will do the honors?

You may notice that the "riots" do not touch the wealth of the 1%. Sure Nike, et al. shops are looted. They are insured, and the FIRE sector is regularly "financed" by the FED which USAians pay for with their taxes.

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Jun 3 2020 9:36 utc | 130

Whoops, first part of quote for 127 got striped:

And that would also strip away the wealth of the .1% as it mostly consists of the debt owed it by the masses or the illicit federal government.

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Jun 3 2020 9:40 utc | 131

- The australian website MACROBUSINESS had a nice picture/cartoon (from "") on how the US Treasury got looted by rich people.

Posted by: Willy2 | Jun 3 2020 10:04 utc | 132

A friend in New York city sent me two short videos, taken from her apartment window, of a protest march through Manhattan today.
It was peaceful and disciplined in an exemplary fashion. Generally it takes the cops to turn a demo violent and this had not happened.

Posted by: bevin | Jun 3 2020 0:10 utc | 84

I've had a good view of the protests from my apartment in Manhattan as well. During the daytime, several protest marches will go by peacefully, just clapping/cheering and not causing any problems. But there are usually dozens of cop cars driving alongside them.

Also, there has been actual violence and rioting in the streets for the past few nights. It doesn't happen until after dark. I'm talking fires in the streets, large mobs of people smashing windows and looting stores (the flagship Macy's, for instance), and general mayhem. You can find several videos of this happening, and you'll see the police are nowhere to be seen while the looting is going on.

Let's not paint everything with one brush.

Posted by: big pomme | Jun 3 2020 10:53 utc | 133

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Jun 3 2020 9:36 utc | 127 Who will do the honors?

Good question. Probably no one. Just a thought, since Hudson mentioned it. This reverts back to the question of whether *anything* will be done by *anyone*.

I'm not holding my breath.

As I've said before, things will change only 1) a *serious* economic depression (will this be it? Who knows? Check back in a year...), or 2) s major US military defeat (hopefully short of nuclear war - and that's the problem...How do you get such a defeat *without* nuclear war?) (Again, by "defeat", I don't just mean "withdrawal" - I mean loss of a major portion of US forces deployed.)

Otherwise, the mass of the elites are going to have to be somehow *forced* by *someone* - not the government, they own that - to do what needs to be done vis-a-vis a restructuring.

I just don't see it, short of the outcomes I listed.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 3 2020 11:03 utc | 134


Amusing to observe how Moon of Alabama has become an #OrangeManBad hangout.

How is this any different to the MSM that a lot of you pretend to hate?

So on one hand a lot of you have spent years telling readers how dishonest the media is and how they lie about everything everyday .... and then in the very same breath--because #OrangeManBad - you will breathlessly quote the same media reports as truthful reporting on #OrangeManBad.


Interesting times as always....

Posted by: Skeletor | Jun 3 2020 11:06 utc | 135

@Posted by: Zanon | Jun 3 2020 8:15 utc | 119

Readers of Breitbart are far from being a majority, neither silent, nor noisy...

In fact, they are a tiny noisy minority. I would not discard their role in the suplantation of alleged "antifa", along with the kind of Alex Jones.

The suspicious role of Donald Trump junior ( discharged by "b", but not by me...) which reminds his shenanigans during the past electoral campaign, points all the way at an action of the far right to prop Trump´s lowest polls...

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jun 3 2020 11:06 utc | 136

Emerging after days of darkness, President Donald Trump threatened Americans on Monday night with a military crackdown involving “thousands of heavily armed soldiers.” Shortly before Trump appeared on camera, federal police under his authority attacked a peaceful group of people near the White House with tear gas and rubber bullets, including members of a local Christian clergy. The group was violently cleared from the churchyard without warning so that Trump could walk over to create propaganda. Years in the making, Trump’s violent rhetoric, spread by the most powerful communications companies in history, is being realized in violent action against ordinary people by the hands of armed authorities.

President Trump celebrates violence. He is responsible for the grotesque abuse of children and families on our borders. He pardoned a Navy SEAL convicted of war crimes. He celebrates violence at his rallies, and he has complained that his supporters are not violent enough. He celebrates violence against journalists. Years before George Floyd was killed by police, Trump told police that they should harm prisoners in their custody. Because he desires violence wherever he looks, the president even wishes football was more violent. His followers listen.

Earlier in the day on Monday, two close Trump allies in Congress made shocking remarks on Twitter following the president’s threat to vaguely designate huge swaths of Americans as “terrorists.” Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) suggested that authorities hunt down and kill Americans “like we do in the Middle East.” (Twitter took action against the tweet for glorifying violence but did not remove it.) Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) asked Trump to use the Insurrection Act to deploy military forces across the US and said the military should give “no quarter for insurrectionists, anarchists, rioters, and looters,” which means to kill people without taking prisoners. In both cases, in the auspices of Trump’s fury, prominent members of Congress called for the extrajudicial killing of Americans. They’re not even trying to be subtle anymore. People who have lived through genocide elsewhere in the world are sounding the alarm.

Posted by: Mao | Jun 3 2020 11:26 utc | 137

Skeletor #132

Kind of like how you Trumpstein supporters pretend to hate the MSM, yet cheer them on when they support CIA-backed Antifa terrorists lighting people on fire in Hong Kong. Or how you readily believe every fake MSM news piece supporting Trumpstein and PomPedo's lies about China and Iran.

Posted by: Ghan-buri-Ghan | Jun 3 2020 11:31 utc | 138

Yesterday's protests over the murder of George Floyd seemed smaller to me.

Oh really? Time you got out of your house and looked around! A really pathetic article that says nothing really. Very disappointing.

Posted by: Barovsky | Jun 3 2020 12:28 utc | 139

Richard Nixon exploited an anti-riot backlash and rode a law-and-order platform to electoral victory. Trump seems to be trying his best to pull a Nixon. Trump needs the Mid Western states votes. But not sure if this time it will work in similar way. It can backfire for Trump

Posted by: Nick | Jun 3 2020 12:33 utc | 140

The irony is, we're ALL teetering on the edge of the abyss. The collapse of America means the collapse of the world. The global perturbations will be that destructive. Nature demands it. It's the way of all biological organisms. You expand until you have used up all of your resources and despoiled your environment so resolutely and pervasively, you collapse. Human has been clever enough to defer the inevitable longer than would have been possible for simpler organisms, but the bill has finally come due. Deep down, the extractive elite know this and they're criminally insane enough to believe they can weather it.

Planet of the Humans is an excellent documentary and parrots and validates what I have been espousing for years. Human has reached the End of Growth. But like a meth addict, Human cannot live without its growth fix. Human is tweaking. Convulsing. Quitting is not an option. The addict that is Human hasn't the capacity and capability of voluntarily refraining. Crash and burn is the only course. No nation or people are above this and beyond nature's reproach.

Posted by: | Jun 3 2020 13:04 utc | 141

After a year or so so of active duty, an American LEO loses any idealism he might have had and an Us vs Them model takes over. Much of the training and attitude of law enforcement in the USA is about manufacturing probable cause, essentially to turn citzens into felons if possible. It is quite systematic and tied to the prison industrial complex. A post 911 USA police force is heavilly militarized, with many combat veterans within their ranks. Over the past few decades we have seen a shoot first, ask later approach become more common. This is a recipe for disaster, and the attandant backlash has finally struck.

There appear to be agents provocateur urging the proetests to riot, supplying brick and who knows what else... There are certainly factions who would benefit from a WROL breakdown situation. All we can do is assemble eveidence and examine historical precedent. Operations CHAOS and CointelPro come to mind. It really doesnt take much to push a mob situation into destructive chaos once the various factions have been enflamed. The Maidan sniper phenom has been entioned a few times on this thread and for good reason.

Finally, the sentiment that 'oh its a just a few riots, no big deal' I'm hearing expressed is not all that accurate. Despite the fact that I am on rural USA, what is happening in the cities is a really big fuggin deal. It's not just the destruction of property, it is the boiling over of years of frustration and anger. Coupled with the 'Rona impact, this damage will go on for many years. The lockdown now has a military component and will be taken full advantage of to enforce compliance of whatever is coming down the pipes.

Posted by: Chevrus | Jun 3 2020 13:06 utc | 142

Chance of a lifetime to rub out Antifa. Come on Mr President, do the job.

Posted by: Morongobill | Jun 3 2020 13:15 utc | 143

@Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jun 3 2020 11:06 utc | 133

Btw, the fact that the riotts are mostly happening in Democrat ruled states, plus the first statement by Trump on the incapability of the governors there to manage revolts and put order in place points all the way to an electoral maneuver the like of employed in Iran and Lebanon against the legitimate government there.

To this add the clear determination expressed by Esper and Pentagon to crush the demosntrators, and you have the whole picture of the same actors in the ME now playnig their card at home to push up Trump´s decaying poll numbers.

The shamefull use by this administration of US institutions, and even the Bible, to try to push up their electoral scores will backfire, as the discredit of those institutions, now thrown against huge number of US citizens, grows....

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jun 3 2020 13:16 utc | 144

@Posted by: Morongobill | Jun 3 2020 13:15 utc | 140

Yeah, come on, let´s label Superman, Captain America, Donald Duck, Chitta the monkey, and even Indiana Jones or Rick of "Casablanca" and Private Ryan, terrorists...You may be even try to trial again Chaplin for "The Great Dictator"...

Try to continue rewritting history...bad news, many still have memories, inside and outside the US....

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jun 3 2020 13:26 utc | 145

Posted by: | Jun 3 2020 13:04 utc | 138
"The collapse of America means the collapse of the world."

Possibly, but not necessarily, not even the collapse of the US. Economics is an artificial human construct. It can be reconstructed, in this case though wealth taxes or debt jubilees, or simply people developing parallel economies, or simply taking back their economies from the oligarchs by occupying businesses, factories, banks and setting up worker cooperatives, as was all too briefly done in Argentina when the economy collapsed in 2001. The economies will become more local but it can be done. In the US, this also means that the individual states would have to exert their own rights relative to the Federal Gov't, and defend themselves collectively.

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Jun 3 2020 13:28 utc | 146

@ Posted by: | Jun 3 2020 13:04 utc | 138

The collapse of America means the collapse of the world.

Ladies and gentlemen, we already have the American St. Augustine. And he's just elected Planet of the Humans as the American City of God.

This is evolving fast.

Posted by: vk | Jun 3 2020 13:30 utc | 147

@ vinnieoh | Jun 3 2020 3:17 utc | 104

” . . .are you referring to the stock market, or some other metric(s)? As for the stock market, all speculation and funny money.”

You are absolutely right, and I clearly was not firing on all eight cylinders when I read that chart and for some dumb reason decided to believe that it said something meaningful, and then to post it.

Posted by: AntiSpin | Jun 3 2020 13:32 utc | 148

The stock market, particularly the major indices, are a measure of wealth disparity and as such are a depravity indicator. It is the pulse of decadent malevolence. As America collapses, nay the world, the depravity indicator rises and rises. Wealth concentrates further as the extractive wealthy elite loot further and more using each crisis, several a year now, as a pretext for more egregious cannibalistic looting and pillaging. It's not speculation when there is no risk. There is no risk when the government you own bails you out any time you lose and makes you whole again. Donald Trump is the perfect poster child for what America is and has become. He's lived his entire life like a king propped up by an ocean of debt and credit that he could never, and never will, pay back. You peons? You nobodies? You'd have to pay it back or die trying, but not the likes of Fat Donny because, well, because he's the poster child. He has money for nothing and his chicks for free as do all the depraved extractive wealthy elite.

Posted by: | Jun 3 2020 13:45 utc | 149

All of a sudden, those "liberals" who have demanded that we call soldiers "heroes" are terrified at the prospect they might be used against the rioters. On "Rising" this morning, Krystal Ball was so shrill I couldn't watch more than five minutes. Saagar, her conservative counterpart, was trying to explain his point and she kept shouting over him. One of the things she was saying was that the military are not trained in law enforcement. Well, that's not really the point. As they've shown in previous deployments against riots they can be very good at crowd control, which is really what's needed at this point. Stop the riots so peaceful protests can continue. I'm retired from the Army, and I have doubts about the integrity of high ranking officers, but in general the troops are not brutal, and they are not going to obey unlawful orders. Moreover, many of them come from the neighborhoods where the riots are taking place. The cops don't live in the cities they dominate. They are, in most places, foreign occupying forces. The cops (not all) are brutal and are willing to break the law. Their incentives are to arrest a lot of people, period. That's what gets them promotions. Numbers. Lots of arrests.

Posted by: Procopius | Jun 3 2020 13:55 utc | 150

Mistery of the bricks solved...obvious that this is a far-right construct to start a witch hunt on antifascists and the left...

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jun 3 2020 13:56 utc | 151

When Americans let Repugs produce the coup that put W in power, and when he started a blatantly false war for oil and Isra-Hell I knew something like this would happen. Corona virus provided the opportunity and they were ready!

Posted by: Ralph Conner | Jun 3 2020 14:05 utc | 152

@Posted by: Procopius | Jun 3 2020 13:55 utc | 147

This must e looking for "antifa" riotters then...this is a terror state in action, can someone explain me whay the soldiers have not been charged and suspended too, for treating these young citizens like they do not treat their ISIS "moderates" in the ME?

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jun 3 2020 14:05 utc | 153

It is only a matter of a few rotten, most police officers are good honest people who do not abuse their power recenlty increased to the nth potence by the Dictator in Chief..

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jun 3 2020 14:09 utc | 154

TEHRAN — Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif has urged the entire world to wage a war against racism, making a reference to the recent killing of a black American by the U.S. police.

“Some don’t think #BlackLivesMatter,” Zarif tweeted on Saturday.

“To those of us who do: it is long overdue for the entire world to wage war against racism,” he wrote. “Time for a #WorldAgainstRacism.”

Zarif also attached an image of U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s press statement on “recent protests in Iran”. However, the foreign minister photoshopped some parts to make the statement look like it was written about the recent U.S. protests in order to draw attention to the international community’s double standards.

Posted by: Mao | Jun 3 2020 14:19 utc | 155

AntiSpin @145

I am glad to read your reply. Generally speaking I am a non-confrontational type of person, and posting what I did was stepping far out of my comfort zone. I have read many of your comments over the years, recently here and at CN and did not want to needlessly create an enemy from someone who is probably very like minded.

I'm more of a four cylinder model myself, but I'm pretty good at recognizing nonsense (the article) when I see it.

Just to reiterate: "I don't consider the stock market a good metric of anything, except speculation."

To the forum participants generally: I didn't mean to purposely divert this thread by going so far OT. I didn't consider what I first said to be that far OT, but I know what I was trying to get at is a subject for a different discussion.

Posted by: vinnieoh | Jun 3 2020 14:23 utc | 156

>From the picture it looks like they're providing simple
>straight-up temporary area awareness.
>Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 3 2020 8:38 utc | 120

For some reason the phrases "forward observer" and "fire support team" comes to mind.

Posted by: Trailer Trash | Jun 3 2020 14:43 utc | 157

Thanks Mao @ 152
That link neatly exposes the present USA hypocrisy !
I’d like to draw attention, to the institutionalised psychopathic projection rightly and clearly shown up by this very simple cleaver alteration.
Well done IRAN !!
We are not alone.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 3 2020 14:47 utc | 158

I just received a 3 minutes graphic video clip of black youth walking away with boxes of tennis shoes from one of the department stores somewhere in this country. They call this place the United States of America. It is not what Hollywood depicts to the world.

What you see in this clip is what the University of Chicago economist Milton Friedman called "Trickle-down Theory," i.e. the 1% must become filthy rich before it "trickles down" to the poor. When the criminal thugs who rule this country rob the people every year they rob in the trillions of dollars. And every 10 to 15 years a few people from the ghetto are allowed to steal a few tennis shoes. The tennis shoe thieves get prosecuted to the full extent of the law and the thieving thuggish rulers in their black tuxedos have champagne galas for a job well done. Remember, it is called the United States of America.

Posted by: Al Kiani | Jun 3 2020 15:21 utc | 159

Oh wait, what is this? After Miley walked with The Donald in military fatigues and was put at the head of the military crushing of the protesters, here comes Esper saying Pentagon will not do it?

I fear that the military coup was in the origins of all this. The protests are genuine and legitimate, but an expected result by these thugs through the instigation of violence along the whole presidency culminating in the public execution of Floyd. Trump is clearly aboard, and all this is being played for the US military, and its associates, to take over.

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jun 3 2020 15:39 utc | 160

@ karlof1 et al

As you have mentioned repeatedly, the Kaiser Report and Renegade Inc. are both almost always worth one's time. I just thought I'd say for those who don't know, or who have a hard time fitting stuff like that into your schedule, that RT has a podcast which includes the audio of those shows (along with others that are occasionally pretty good). On rare occasion they refer to graphs or something that would be nice to see, but I find it very handy to be able to access those podcasts and be able to listen to the content when I'm driving or otherwise would just be wasting my time. You can even set your player to listen at 1.5 times speed which doesn't take too much time to get used to and you can cram even more content into limited time. Just thought I'd pass that along for those who might be interested.

Posted by: J Swift | Jun 3 2020 15:46 utc | 161

How so fitting the unrest is carrying on to the TAM 1989 annualized ritual bashing tomorrow.

Posted by: JW | Jun 3 2020 15:53 utc | 162

Anyone calling this manifestation "riots" and the crowds that have gathered all across America "rioters" is giving themselves away as the enemy provocateurs. No matter how spontaneously chaotic and disorganized, these mass gatherings are protests/demonstrations with rioting and looting sprinkled on top by provocateurs to be able to label the expressions of outrage as "riots" by the autocrats using the phenomenon to further their fascist autocratic putsch.

The media is complicit in labeling these protests and demonstrations as riots. They are not riots. Using that term allows the passive viewer to accept the violence of the police and military as justifiable and necessary keeping in mind that the police and various other provocateurs are stoking the rioting for this very reason and purpose.

And to think, white nationalists, I refuse to capitalize that name, stormed the capitol building in Michigan locked and loaded. No tear gas. No bullets, rubber or otherwise. No nothing. All because the skinheads wanted some more tattoos and their furry heads shaved slick & shiny again.

Posted by: | Jun 3 2020 15:55 utc | 163

Some classic Z/H grade sarco-gasm:

There are two equally-depressing conclusions here:
1) We no longer have actual markets due to central-bank elevation of moral hazard to the foundational pillar of financial capitalism;
2) We still have markets, but they find the idea of the US military operating on the streets to quell popular unrest to be reassuring

You know you have turned a corner when the appearance of the military on city streets is reassuring.

I am of the mind frame that it had to get worse before it could get better.
I think we are making progress in that direction - bad news is good news. Bring it.

Posted by: jared | Jun 3 2020 16:00 utc | 164

The GDPNow model estimate for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the second quarter of 2020 is -52.8 percent on June 1, down from -51.2 percent on May 29.

Posted by: Mao | Jun 3 2020 16:00 utc | 165

J Swift @158--

Thanks very much for your quite helpful suggestion! I rewatched the current Keiser Report with the wife so she could see the info on the charts used, the extreme ups and downs are always more potent visually than just hearing them described. The discussion and associated chart displays begins at the 8 minute mark and are quite amazing. The first is a y/o/y change, %, Average Hourly Earnings of All Employees from 2007-2020 and is quite stark and extremely educational. Max a bit later describes what it means in real terms, and those terms are certainly grounds for insurrection.


Kudos to those bringing Shays Rebellion, Jefferson's writings, and the 1787 "Coup" into the discussion. As for Ratification, note that it wasn't genuinely democratic whatsoever, and understand that the 1787 Constitution is very much a document forged and okayed by a distinct minority even of White males. That fact is but one of many imperfections within and directly related to that document and what it formulated--imperfections being the word used to obfuscate the actual imperfections, which are rarely discussed.


milomilo @110--

Yes, the Pharisees were the elite that got Roman sanction to murder Jesus and it was that act which generated the basis for Anti-Jewishness as it was the Jews who killed what was alleged to be God's Son, but who in fact was just a very dedicated Rabbi, both radical and conservative simultaneously.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 3 2020 16:23 utc | 166

Mao @162--

Yes, that's one of the figures Max mentioned in the latest Keiser Report I linked above. Shadowstats will need to add a couple more lines on the negative portion of its GDP chart as the blue ink ought to dive beyond -20%, and it would be much worse with all the financialized parasitical transactions removed from the + side to the - side where they belong. All gains attributed to the Billionaire Class must be seen as takings from the Real Economy and all those it serves.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 3 2020 16:33 utc | 167

Well, to be fair, it seems that after all there are some sane apples....

BTW, who´s this alleged "Hollywood Star", I have no idea....

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jun 3 2020 16:40 utc | 168

Sunrise @sunriseon7

Watch the shocking moment #7NEWS reporter @AmeliaBrace and our cameraman were knocked over by a police officer LIVE on air after chaos erupted in Washington DC.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison has demanded an investigation after #7NEWS US Correspondent @AmeliaBrace and her cameraman were assaulted by police live on air.

Posted by: Mao | Jun 3 2020 16:41 utc | 169


The Revolution has been highly successful on its first week. They dominate the American and international media.

See Tucker Carlson on Fox News: Tucker: How long before no one in America will serve as a police officer?

Personally I think all this speech about "racism" is bullshit. But if you replace the word with "Capitalism" everything makes sense. Maybe "racism" is just a code word for something else.

Whatever you may think of looting, it has proven to be highly effective. They have forced the government to resort to violence and the military, thus delegitimizing the Trump regime in the eyes of the world. The revolution has succeeded in stage one: this is for real!

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jun 3 2020 16:45 utc | 170

Petri Krohn @167--

Yes, Racism is used to control the Narrative so it doesn't move onto the far more important issue of the political economy and its gross disparities. Moving that Narrative is what I've been trying to do.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 3 2020 16:54 utc | 171

I have long been arguing with local Democrat partisans about the evil of their lesser-evilism that protects them from the cognitive dissonance of what Obama did abroad for 8 years.

I wrote a post today about one of those partisans because he thinks a few counter protesters who showed up with Trump signs and guns are WHITE TERRORISTS!!! it's frustrating to have to explain to this asshole what TERRORISM actually is, and how is guilty of committing terrorism in places like Syria and Libya.

so far we haven't seen violence here, and protesters have open lines of communication with law enforcement. there is a rumor outside groups may be coming from Spokane and Idaho, and, if true, those would NOT be ANTIFA. this region is saturated with right-wing extremists.

speaking of outsiders, our new police chief is from California. during the transition of leadership our local cops put downtown in lockdown (pre-pandemic) because the window of a cop cruiser blew out and they thought they were under attack, and the new chief sent SWAT out because two neighbors got into a verbal argument and 911 thought they heard that one of the women had a gun.

for what it's worth.

Posted by: lizard | Jun 3 2020 16:54 utc | 172

All this Floyd news made me think of a lyrics by another Floyd, Pink Floyd.

Sounds like something the orange one may say any day now (oh wait, maybe he already said it):
Are there any queers in the theater tonight?
Get them up against the wall!
There's one in the spotlight, he don't look right to me,
Get him up against the wall!
That one looks Jewish!
And that one's a coon!
Who let all of this riff-raff into the room?
There's one smoking a joint,
And another with spots!
If I had my way,
I'd have all of you shot!"
and this explains many conditions:
"there's someone in my head, but it's not me."

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jun 3 2020 17:54 utc | 173

Perhaps the most expensive and losingest military in world history now has found a fight it can win... a war on its own people. Well done Mr. 100,000 and 40,000,000 Trump.

Posted by: stevelaudig | Jun 3 2020 18:10 utc | 174

The US is exceptional. Even our riots are better. Seriously, America is FUBAR. There's no going back.

Posted by: Shadow | Jun 3 2020 18:15 utc | 175

163 karlof1 -

"Yes, the Pharisees were the elite that got Roman sanction to murder Jesus and it was that act which generated the basis for Anti-Jewishness as it was the Jews who killed what was alleged to be God's Son, but who in fact was just a very dedicated Rabbi, both radical and conservative simultaneously."

I'm as much of a fan of Michael Hudson on economics as you are, karlof1, but I am bemused as to why you consider this assertion to be fact. Do you have other sources than the evangelists for this claim? Judaic texts, I would guess. I am not sure what is the purpose for continually stating what I consider to be the weakest segment of Professor Hudson's otherwise powerful debt relief study, since one must then assume that the writings of Jesus' followers were indeed a pack of lies meant to subvert. Those writings date back to the earliest years of the Christian story and are consistent in asserting his own claim to divinity and the signs which accompanied that claim.

I gently advised the author of his error with respect to the texts he claims would support Christ's economic emphasis, and the 'fact' is that one can believe or disbelieve NT narratives but they are entirely consistent from beginning to end; not to mention great literature and devoted practice for two millenia. "And forgive us our debts..." What sense would it make to ask God to forgive us in economic terms? It's an analogy! "Forgive us, as we forgive them."

Professor Hudson is speaking as a non-believer, which he is entitled to be, but the text doesn't support nondivinity in this instance. I'm obliged to him for emphasizing that Jesus' first sermon was based on the Jewish understanding of the Jubilee year, but it is Christian belief that the scandal for the Jews lay in his claim of Sonship, not in the economic truth they may or may not have ignored. That truth, if so ignored, would simply have been "the icing on the cake" and not the cake itself. It may indeed have helped motivate Pharisaic vindictiveness, but it wasn't what motivated Christ or his followers.

Pardon me for going OT in this, but this claim will discredit the argument on forgiving debt with many, and that would be unfortunate. That argument stands without unneedfully attacking the belief of any religion, ancient or new. The Jews had a jubilee year, and it was a good thing.

b, I will understand if you feel the need to remove this comment.

Posted by: juliania | Jun 3 2020 18:26 utc | 176

Jackboot in the Box. Your way does not exist. Maybe it's time to change the inscription on the Statue of Liberty: "Abandon hope, all ye who enter here."

Posted by: Shadow | Jun 3 2020 18:30 utc | 177

Seriously, America is FUBAR.

Posted by: Shadow | Jun 3 2020 18:15 utc | 175

When things look bad, it indicates you are paying attention.
When things are at there worst, it means they are about to get better.

We need things to get pretty bad, or government no longer needs us and the constitution is a worthless, anachronistic piece of paper - it seems the "Supreme Court" is rigged.

And for that job I can think of no one more suited than Donald J. Trump, The Destroyer.

Posted by: jared | Jun 3 2020 19:14 utc | 178

Floyd family attorney confirms charges against all officers

Benjamin Crump, the attorney for George Floyd's family that law enforcement authorities informed him of the details of the charges.

Crump tweeted Wednesday that Officer Derek Chauvin will be charged with second-degree murder and Officers Thomas Lane, J.A. Keung, and Tou Thao will be charged as well.

Posted by: CitizenX | Jun 3 2020 19:21 utc | 179

juliania @176--

No, Hudson is articulating the consensus arrived at by the group of scholars he worked with at the Peabody Museum. That consensus is supported by the Dead Sea Scrolls which have proven the existence of an Historical Christ figure, a development the few don't want mentioned because it is a Revolutionary Discovery. Note that Hudson formed his own publishing outfit to get the word out to the public about that and all the other important facts he provides.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 3 2020 19:28 utc | 180

@ juliania | Jun 3 2020 18:26 utc | 176

”Those writings date back to the earliest years of the Christian story and are consistent in asserting his own claim to divinity and the signs which accompanied that claim.”

Read biblical scholar Barbara Thiering's very scholarly as well as iconoclastic book “Jesus and the Riddle of the Dead Sea Scrolls” and you will disabuse yourself of that notion once and for all.

”. . . one can believe or disbelieve NT narratives but they are entirely consistent from beginning to end .”

Far from true. If you doubt it, do a search on “The Resurrection Challenge” and see if you can win the prize. The six different accounts of the resurrection differ considerably from one another and though many have tried, no one has ever succeeded in reconciling them.

Also, take a look at the two very different genealogies of Jesus – one in Matthew 1 and the other in Luke 3. Those also cannot be reconciled.

There's a lot more, but this should get you started on the path to understanding what's really in the bible and what is not, and to what degree the contents differ from reality.

Posted by: AntiSpin | Jun 3 2020 19:30 utc | 181

@ 179 citizenx... thanks for the update....

regarding the picture in b's post.. it looks like the cop with the gun is looking past the man with the child on his shoulders... a casual look at the pic, requires a closer look to see this...

Posted by: james | Jun 3 2020 19:50 utc | 182

The three other police officers have been charged as accessories.

The charge against Chauvin is expected to be elevated to second-degree murder.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 3 2020 19:54 utc | 183

*233+ total press freedom incidents*
U.S. Press Freedom Tracker

5h ago 3:21 PM · Jun 3, 2020
*233+ total press freedom incidents*

41+ arrests/detainments
153 assaults (125 by police, 27 by others)
39 equipment/newsroom damage

Assault category breakdown:
53 physical attacks (33 by police)
35 tear gassings
21 pepper sprayings
55 rubber bullet/projectiles

Press freedom incidents by location, here's a preliminary count:

Minneapolis - 47
Los Angeles - 13
Washington, D.C. - 11
Louisville - 10
New York - 10

Unique incident locations: 53
States: 33

Posted by: Ashino | Jun 3 2020 20:10 utc | 184

Petri Krohn @ 170

Whatever you may think of looting, it has proven to be highly effective. They have forced the government to resort to violence and the military, thus delegitimizing the Trump regime in the eyes of the world. The revolution has succeeded in stage one: this is for real

this morning I was unfortunate enough to see the video of David Dorn, a retired police captain apparently gunned down by looters in front of a pawn shop in St. Lewis, bleeding out on the sidewalk. now that i see the video's been scrubbed, and since nobody's talking about it, i thought i'd describe it for's even more heart rending than the Floyd video, which, of course, is all over the tubes...

the good captain is chest down on the pavement, blood streaming from beneath his body. you can see that he's still alive 'cause the whites of his eyes are slightly flickering, he's trying to move his mouth, but all he can muster is a bit of spittle, as the blood flow increases...

our understandably hysterical cameraman keeps screaming, "stay with us, stay with us" but i guess when the medics arrived he was pronounced DOA.

Posted by: john | Jun 3 2020 20:21 utc | 185

USA paid a heavy price for the doomed attempt to shield these four officers.

And make no mistake, that's exactly what the manslaughter charge and delay in charging the other officers was.

The three officers charged today are much more likely to testify against Chauvin when they are facing charges themselves. The first one or two to do so will probably get a lesser sentence.

The authorities continued to delay even after the protests spread around the country. They were moved to act only after Trump's intimidation failed (protesters defied curfews), Trump himself was embarrassed by his bible-in-hand campaign stunt, Iran and others mocked USA, and the protests spread to Europe.

A self-goal by what more than a few commentators have derided as a 'failed state'.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 3 2020 20:39 utc | 186

That’s good news jack rabbit ‘and now’ their listening !
It’s been that way thiughout history !
The only language they understand is from the street.
It’s really sad it should be that way.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 3 2020 20:52 utc | 187

Adding to the list of failure @186:

The protests have likely helped to spread coronavirus. Exacerbating the Trump Administration's inept response to SARS-COV-2.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 3 2020 20:54 utc | 188

Lee Merritt, one of the legal counsels for the George Floyd family, has stated that there are plans to take the issue of American police repression to the United Nations Human Rights Council “so that we can receive sanctions against the US for its pre-basis and continual denial of basic human rights to the African American community.”


America being subject to sanctions for its human rights abuses!

Talk about Flipping the Script and subjecting America to the very same sanctions that it routinely (and illegally) attempts to apply to many other nations--often under false pretexts.

George Floyd family attorney: US deadliest police force

Posted by: ak74 | Jun 3 2020 21:10 utc | 189

@ jackrabbit.. thanks for your posts and comments..

@ 185 john... thanks for sharing that.. that is very depressing to read and very sad..

Posted by: james | Jun 3 2020 21:10 utc | 190 |Jun 2 2020 18:17 utc |9

The First Jewish POTUS

| I don't know for sure but I think Johnson was. He sure looked the part, particularly when he was young.

Posted by: foolisholdman | Jun 3 2020 21:33 utc | 191

Deconstructing the right alleged constitutionalist democratic character, "alt", "populist", "conservative", whatever disguise they wore all these years...

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jun 3 2020 21:39 utc | 192

I think America sadly have really gone out on a limb this time ! Beyound the point of on return.
Psycopaths like Trump have no insight, as to what the rest of the sane world think of him and the United States !
Here’s Rotterdam just 5 hours ago.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 3 2020 21:48 utc | 193

Just was recalling that during these past months, before the pandemic, there went out studies by precisely US think tanks which concluded that the youth generations tended in their majority to socialist ideas....

All of a sudden, a never known in centuries pandemic breaks out... While the people is put in lockdown for months, and what is left of funcitoning economy stopped and ruined, a massive tranfer of what remains of public wealth is used to bail out big banks and corporations... Once lockdown start being ended, a violent provocation which as expected would derive in massive public outrage and rage is used to unleash martial law and declare antifascist ideology as terrorism...

Just connecting the dots...

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jun 3 2020 22:02 utc | 194

AntiSpin | Jun 2 2020 19:06 utc | 26

Feb. 7: Trump sends 17.8 tons (more than 35,000 pounds) of "masks, gowns, gauze, respirators, and other vital materials" to China. ( (see entry for March 18)
March 18. Trump defiantly told governors pressing him to help their states obtain similar equipment: "The federal government's not supposed to be out there buying vast amounts of items and then shipping," adding, "We're not a shipping clerk." (CNN) (see entry for February 7 re shipping tons of PPE and respirators to China))

This shipment was not Trumps doing, it was kit collected by Chinese-Americans and American-Chinese which they sent to friends and relatives in China. Trump's part in it was that he gave permission for it to be sent.

Posted by: foolisholdman | Jun 3 2020 22:27 utc | 195

karlof1 @ 180, Antispin @181, thank you for referring me to the Dead Sea Scrolls, and of course at first I took a quick look through Orthodox wiki, (that being my faith), then was pleasantly informed to see a manuscript called "Jubilees" listed there, and apparently dated 160-150 BC. The caves wherein the scrolls were found is approximately one mile west of the Dead Sea. And most of the scrolls seem to be of Old Hebraic texts, I think one in Aramaic. They all seem older from my admittedly quick look than the Christian era, and in fact, the closest Christian writers were mentioned to hold "Jubilees" in high esteem, they being described as 'early Christian writers' and listing in wikipedia as Clement, Ignatius and Polycarp, some of whom knew some of the disciples of Christ.

My church uses, by the way, the Septaguint, which is the Greek version of the Old Testament compiled by Alexandrian Jews in the second century BC. Jesus quotes from that version fairly often, and also gives his own translations at times.

You are both welcome to adhere to your sources; I will adhere to mine. I saw no mention of a 'Christ figure' but admittedly wiki is not always a complete source of information. In general though, the texts predate the Christian era, and early Christians knew of some of them which had since disappeared from the canon. I will enjoy further exploration - I know there was some controversy about the translations that were being proffered early on, and early Christian history is an area I enjoy exploring, especially the writings of those who knew such as Saint John, who lived a long life. I have to admit he's my favorite, as he was Dostoievski's also.

(Jesus, by the way, grew up in Nazareth, which is to the north. Tiny country, though, to have so much interesting history!)

Posted by: juliania | Jun 4 2020 0:07 utc | 196

Woops, should have said "They seem earlier" - dates going forward and back are always confusing!

Posted by: juliania | Jun 4 2020 0:11 utc | 197

Now that the far-right Trumpers are more worried for their confederate statues than for the security and future of their fellow Americans, a reminder of that in the US, time ago, apart from confederates, there was also a labor movement and legal antifascist people who fought...Of course, some of these Americans, working peers, were erased through harassment and terror, as the one is again unleashed today, hence they have no estatues...

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jun 4 2020 0:15 utc | 198

Just briefly, but it does relate to Professor Hudson's scholarly involvement - I found this link particularly on the "Book of Jubilees":

I've bookmarked it, as it provides a wealth of information I hadn't known - thank you so much, karlof1! I'll just give a short quote from the summation:

...the Book of Jubilees, regardless of canonical status, is a critically important witness to the interpretation and religious significance of Genesis and Exodus in the first century AD. It is invaluable as background to the apostles and New Testament writers in understanding their world view and experience. The texts which make up the Christian Scriptures are not timeless texts. They were produced by real men in real times and places...

The linked article gives pertinent examples quoting 'Jubilee' within the New Testament itself - fascinating!

Posted by: juliania | Jun 4 2020 0:47 utc | 199


The Atlantic has published an opinion piece by James 'Mad Dog' Mattis" where he calls for the removal of President Trump.

James Mattis Denounces President Trump, Describes Him as a Threat to the Constitution

I have watched this week’s unfolding events, angry and appalled. The words “Equal Justice Under Law” are carved in the pediment of the United States Supreme Court. This is precisely what protesters are rightly demanding. It is a wholesome and unifying demand—one that all of us should be able to get behind. We must not be distracted by a small number of lawbreakers. The protests are defined by tens of thousands of people of conscience who are insisting that we live up to our values—our values as people and our values as a nation.


We must reject any thinking of our cities as a “battlespace” that our uniformed military is called upon to “dominate.” At home, we should use our military only when requested to do so, on very rare occasions, by state governors. Militarizing our response, as we witnessed in Washington, D.C., sets up a conflict—a false conflict—between the military and civilian society. It erodes the moral ground that ensures a trusted bond between men and women in uniform and the society they are sworn to protect, and of which they themselves are a part. Keeping public order rests with civilian state and local leaders who best understand their communities and are answerable to them.

This was followed 15 minutes later by an article by Eliot A. Cohen where he calls on U.S. generals to rebel against Trump.

America’s Generals Must Stand Up to Trump

What our senior military leaders need now is the considerable courage it would take for them to be dismissed from the service. It is the guts to say, “Mr. President, that is an utterly inappropriate use of the armed forces.” “Mr. President, I will not use the jargon of war in talking about American streets.” “Mr. President, if you order these things, you will cause mayhem in ways that will deprive the American military of moral legitimacy in the eyes of the American people for years to come.”

This is not longer about racism, if it has ever been. But will this turn into a genuine revolution or is it just another deep state coup attempt to remove Trump from power?

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jun 4 2020 0:57 utc | 200

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