@ 2 bjd….here it is bjd..

Posted by: james | Jun 17 2020 16:37 utc | 4

Let me copy over the last comment from the Week in Review Open Thread
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#91 Blue Kayak
Do not answer to Hack’s posts.It is not all bullshit,but he is not a real person.He is an artificial (low-level because he has to be able to convince americans over here)intelligence operated in a vast experimental CIA authored trolling experiment.So RSH/it poses as a person,living in San Francisco.His favorite motto”the only good cop is a dead cop” and he wants to provoke you saying that,so your FEMA guys will be able to roll you up,and they’ll have proof so as to put you in prison,after a slight change of rules.
Posted by: willie | Jun 17 2020 14:59 utc | 135
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Personally, I am tired of skipping over the large volume of BS by RSH to read worthwhile MoA comments.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 17 2020 17:10 utc | 6

@B
It would be great to get one of your insightful analyses on the current incidents between India and China… seems like a complicated situation and one unlikely to go away now that Modi has to justify the death of 20 Indian soldiers to his people.

Posted by: Et Tu | Jun 17 2020 17:19 utc | 8

Posted by: Caliman | Jun 17 2020 17:28 utc | 9

Anyway, anybody read anything along these lines?

Yes, we read it here a month ago.

Posted by: hopehely | Jun 17 2020 17:47 utc | 10

Caliman@9 , I don’t know how the polio vaccine, which has been around for a very long time could be said to prepare one for covid, but I too have a question, just as to the possibility of any vaccine as far as the serious corona virus is concerned as indeed we don’t get (or can’t get) vaccinated against the milder ones. I had read something somewhere along those lines but that train of thought seems to have disappeared from the mainstream – it being gungho on ‘when we get a vaccine’ as if that’s only a matter of time.
So, your second question is a good one. I don’t believe we have reliable information on immunity issues, especially with the difference here being that covid is thought to send the body’s own defences into chaos mode, which is a whole different ballgame from the other coronas. The information is changing all the time, so apologies if I’m not stating correctly. I’m not a scientist or a doctor.

Posted by: juliania | Jun 17 2020 18:02 utc | 12

After Trump signs a virtually meaningless Executive Order about policing, this theOnion.com parody has become even more biting: Congress Announces Willingness To Offer Black Lives Matter Protesters Holiday Or Statue
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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 17 2020 18:24 utc | 14

You may have noticed AnyClip news videos on ZHedge. It seems likely that we will see the same tech used in many other places.
It’s not possible to prevent AnyClip from playing via traditional methods like ad-blocking. In firefox, you have to change parameters on the about:config page. Here’s a graphic that explains how to do this.
FYI
AnyClip Wins Funding from Google

AnyClip has growing offices in New York, Tel Aviv, London and Berlin and is backed by Jerusalem Venture Partners (JVP), Roman Abramovich’s Ervington Investments, former Sony America President & CEO Michael Schulhof, and Limelight Networks.

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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 17 2020 18:37 utc | 16

waiting onindian punchline for an article on the latest between china and india… here is one from june 10th – a week ago… M. K. BHADRAKUMAR article below..
Standoff in Ladakh needs political solution

Posted by: james | Jun 17 2020 18:50 utc | 18

A very important question from the Brooks case: Why not allow him to walk to his sister’s home?
Logic and COVID-19 restrictions. In late May, a judge in Eastern Oregon said he’d ignore a higher court’s decision overturning his ruling on the restrictions on church gatherings being in violation of the 1st Amendment, which it most certainly isn’t as nobody’s being told they can’t worship whatever god they choose; the restriction’s on public gatherings which is a totally different animal. Seems chuchgoers in that area decided to ignore the court too:
“A church in rural northeastern Oregon is now the epicenter of the state’s largest coronavirus outbreak, as 236 people tested positive for the disease.”
Hopefully, no deaths will arise from that outbreak. The levels of illogic and lack of personal responsibility I’ve witnessed during this crisis are simply amazing. Such behavior makes me question the worthiness of saving such people from those exploiting them as they exhibit no sense of responsibility toward others. I wonder how many others those 236 infected and if they’re even questioning their behavior.
I might as well become a Stoic as it appears few are even capable of thinking? Why write to inform when so many refuse to use their brains? With the sorts of parents I observe, their children won’t be of any use whatsoever.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 17 2020 18:58 utc | 20

Posted by: james | Jun 17 2020 16:23 utc | 1
They are notorious white racists (like most of of ukranian youth) so they just expressed the shit they are.

Posted by: LuBa | Jun 17 2020 19:41 utc | 22

to #10 hopehely:
Yes, that “cross-immunity” article posted by b here was indeed one of the things that intrigued me. But it’s been a month or more and nothing since and I can’t see it followed up. I mean, this is supposedly an issue that has required a great depression impact and multi-trillion dollar response and the loss of many of our hard-won liberties to address and we don’t seem to be following up on a very simple lead:
If common human coronavirus infections help us resist the Novel COVID19, then why are they not being explored as a way of addressing the issue? Have there been tests similar to a vaccine test where people are purposely infected with the common coronavirus colds and then tested against COVID19 once they recover? If not, why not?
Again, does this not seem like the Cowpox imperfect-solution to Smallpox, except of course for the fact that smallpox was a much bigger killer?

Posted by: Caliman | Jun 17 2020 20:13 utc | 24

Why not allow him to walk to his sister’s home? Because he wasn’t anywhere near his sister’s home, or not that he knew and there was no way for the officers to have known or for them to have determined because Brooks was in an obvious altered state of consciousness. In fact, he didn’t even have his license on him and he was driving a rental car that may not have been his rental car to drive. Watch the video. The guy was f*cked up. Big time f*cked up. They took their time with him and didn’t escalate at all. He was out of his mind and there was no way to find a ride for him. In fact, he mentioned he was abandoned by his “girlfriend” at the Wendy’s and he believed he was on Old Dixie Highway in Clayton County south of Atlanta many miles away rather than in Atlanta proper. It would irresponsible for the officers to contact the “girlfriend” who abandoned him at Wendy’s and ask her to come get him after she already abandoned him and in fact may very well have been out of her mind as well. This is how screwed up he was. He kept changing his story about what he had to drink. First it was margaritas and then it was daiquiris and then it was top shelf and then back to margaritas. I agree Rolfe shouldn’t have shot Brooks, but everything else they did was done by the book and it was the right thing to do and they acted completely humanely and professionally. Like was done with Michael Brown, they are trying to paint Brooks as some kind of saint. He was 27 and had four kids and was with his “girlfriend” before she abandoned him stoned out of his mind at Wendy’s. What are you doing stoned/drunk out of your mind at Wendy’s with your “girlfriend” if you have a wife and four kids? What kind of father is that? I know, that doesn’t excuse Rolfe shooting him, but it does eviscerate the propaganda that Brooks was a saintly father of four. Cliff Huxtable he was not.

Posted by: 450.org | Jun 17 2020 20:19 utc | 26

@25, that’s bullshit. Murder should not be the charge. This incident is in no way comparable to the George Floyd murder for many reasons but the most important reason of all is because it was not a murder whereas the George Floyd incident was a murder.

Posted by: 450.org | Jun 17 2020 20:26 utc | 28

Posted by: 450.org | Jun 17 2020 20:19 utc | 26
That man was sleeping in his damn car and did harm to no one..his life has nothing to do with the bullets he took in the back..if he was good or bad father was his private life and not a problem for the cops and for us neither.Bigotry is more dangerous than a man sleeping in his car.

Posted by: LuBa | Jun 17 2020 20:40 utc | 30

wrt ad blocking, editing your ‘hosts file’ has worked well for twenty years…

Posted by: Rae | Jun 17 2020 20:52 utc | 32

Thanks for the interesting set of replies to my @19. My asking that question was linked to a conversation between me and wife last night where I put forth the idea that only suspects known to have committed a Capital Crime should be shot at when trying to elude police–I invoked the tragic end depicted in the film Chinatown as an example where the police royally fucked-up. Currently, there’s somewhat of a national discussion about the nature of policing and the amount of force used. The history of policing and Stand Your Ground law I provided last week are all part of that. Clearly as Holmes’s court doctrine delivered in 1921 shows, the past widespread use of guns to resolve disputes and enforce social control are a big part of the problem. I noted that if peoples needs were satisfied then there would be little need for social control and thus police, a point that met widespread agreement. That brings us to the issue of violence related to the workplace–the recourse to strikes and the use of brutal violence against them.
Events like those reported here numb the mind and drain the soul–I’m reminded of Prohibition, The Untouchables and the Broadway show Chicago, as well as many other shoot-em-ups I watched on TV as a child. Growing up we played Cops & Robbers; Cowboys & Indians; and maneuvered toy soldiers and their weapons in sandboxes. But I was never traumatized by violence like millions of other American kids–Extreme Poverty is certainly violence and traumatizing. How do we go about transforming a society and culture that’s steeped in so much violence? I see the problem as both systemic and structural, which is admitting there’s some logic to defunding police. But the events told in the above link weren’t caused by police. In the week following the shootings reported at the link, only one arrest was made–cops killing innocents has greatly harmed the ability to solve crimes, which further frustrates the public over police performance. Much of the time, gangs are said to be responsible for most urban homicides; but what factors promote gangs (yes, I know; we know the answers)? What Class created the economic malaise now endemic to the Outlaw US Empire? They are the ultimate source of virtually all Crime; but they’re not affected, so nothing gets done.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 17 2020 21:52 utc | 34

“Well Caliman, why do you bother thinking about Covid19? It’s just the flu, on tap. When they need, they open the tap. When it suits them, they close the tap. It’s Covid19 on, Covid19 off. Sometimes it trickles or drips. We all will die some day.” albagen@11
The only thing missing is a definition of “they” and “them”. Define them, identify them and you might be saying something. Until them you are simply wasting space and insulting our intelligence.

Posted by: bevin | Jun 17 2020 21:59 utc | 36

From Alejandro Cao de Benós, a little of info about events in the DMZ:

After the launching of hundreds of propaganda balloons insulting the DPRK and our leader, the 4 existing lines of communication with South Korea are cut off (Office in Kaesong, military in East-West seas, the Inter-Korean and that of the Labor Party with the Blue House).

https://twitter.com/DPRK_CAODEBENOS/status/1270664324554600448

As it was noted, the inter-Korean liaison office in Kaesong City has been demolished. The Popular Army plans to occupy the demilitarized positions prior to the Panmunjom Declaration (April 27, 2018).

https://twitter.com/DPRK_CAODEBENOS/status/1272801656212774919
Seems a way too harsh response for some baloons…Trump called Kim “rocket man” and then nothing of the size happened, if I do not recall bad…
There must be something more…Too much skirmishes in too many borders…The war could well start at any of these borders, Indian-Chinese, DPRK-SK, Belarus-Russia….
Who needs a war?
Trump is said to have lost all his previously gained support from the black community…
Then, Hillary Clinton in on trial for Bengazi this week…
The usual Trumpsters in Twitter are claimming that the origin of the violence unleashed in places like Dijon in France are due to race conflicts and mass migrantion…This favors Trump´s discourse, while at the same time destabilize Europe when it tries to recover and reopen from the Corona crisis..
The riots in Dijon where armed mafias of Magrebis and Chechens are in full battle through the streets have all the trade mark of being provoked/oganized by the US.
Notice the common mafia style with the take over of CHAZ by that rapper gangsta collecting taxes, or that video of a black operative arriving with a car full of weapons which then are delivered to white young guys…This is for sure for preparations of gang battles to be performed next 4th July amongst allegedly opposed mafias of blacks and whites…Keep and eye on this…
https://twitter.com/ShlomiHollander/status/1272808375227727872
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1272798940929200128v
https://twitter.com/PoliticusNonC/status/1272596256662138880
https://twitter.com/angelmetropoli/status/1272794880490778625
We all know who controls drugs and arms trafficking…..
This has nothing to do with mass migrants looking for a better life.
This is mafia, and mafia has always a nexus to TPTB…

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jun 17 2020 22:30 utc | 38

“Seems a way too harsh response for some baloons”
The balloons were probably a final straw in a non ending constant harasment, threats and intimidation, broken promises and lies.
It is clear the North has had it. Would it be better if they said please stop?

Posted by: arby | Jun 17 2020 22:38 utc | 40

Canadian Cents @33
Indeed good news–
Roger Waters
And
While Norway and Ireland voted with the rest of the world to oppose Israeli settlements (a war crime under international law) Canada voted with Trump to support the occupation

Posted by: arby | Jun 17 2020 23:01 utc | 42

vk @Jun17 22:40 #41:

The WHO simply stated the drug doesn’t work.

No, they also stated that:

This decision applies only to the conduct of the Solidarity trial and does not apply to the use or evaluation of hydroxychloroquine in pre or post-exposure prophylaxis in patients exposed to COVID-19.

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Beware of MSM spin!
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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 17 2020 23:04 utc | 44

@ 22 luba.. yes, i was aware of that and of how much the usa seems to like what they’ve supported.. nulands cookies have travelled far and wide..

Posted by: james | Jun 17 2020 23:17 utc | 46

There’s a somewhat new book out arguing the need to dramatically increase the capabilities of the Outlaw US Empire’s Army. Margin of Victory is its name and the link is to a preview that includes the author’s Introduction, which is where his argument’s made. I’d say that from a general military perspective, he makes a strong case. But there’s something crucial that’s omitted: The interests that the Outlaw US Empire would be supposedly defending. And the reason why is clear–there are none. Are the Western Ukraine or the Baltic Littoral vital interests that would present the Empire with an existential challenge if it were to lose control of them? Or how about the far Western Pacific in the region of the South China Sea or across the Taiwan Straights? IMO, the only “War of Decision” the Outlaw US Empire faces is the one at home against the Rentier Class that’s destroying the nation from within.
I’d be very much interested in engaging the author in a discourse about his book and the genuine reality now being experienced, for he does make some interesting points about the negative aspects of Empire, although he doesn’t set out to do that. Those can be read in his Introduction, too. His thinking may very well be similar to those other general officers who recently said no to deploying the military against the citizenry. If that’s so, those men may very well be more patriotic than parasitic and agree with the need to wrest control of the nation from the Rentiers. He does conclude his Introduction with this short sentence:
“The enemy is us.”
But he doesn’t specify which of us that might be.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 17 2020 23:46 utc | 48

I just watched the press conference where they discuss the charges against Brosnan and Rolfe. They provided the evidence for the charges. I agree it is murder so I withdraw what I said earlier about it not being murder. Brosnan stood on Brooks’s body when he was obviously down and unresponsive and one of them kicked him. Neither of them tried to administer timely first aid. If it is determined he was still alive when they refused to administer first aid, they are guilty of murder in my opinion. Both of them. Sickening. Training is certainly part of this and a large part of it as well as police culture, but their attitude and their perspective is also part of it, and their attitude and perspective is what led them to refuse first aid and perhaps to also pull the trigger when neither of them were under imminent threat.

Posted by: 450.org | Jun 17 2020 23:51 utc | 50

vk @Jun17 23:25 #46
… but in essence it tells the truth.
No, it doesn’t.
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The other trials you mentions are just the prophylaxis ones – but they don’t really matter
Any independent-minded person following the HCQ debate knows that the HCQ+Zinc treatment is only effective if taken as a prophylactic prior to, or very early after, infection.
Big Pharma wants headlines like: WHO determines that HCQ is ineffective.
You either don’t care enough to be informed (and thus shouldn’t be commenting on the issue) or you willingly support Big Pharma.
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I am increasingly concerned that Big Pharma and TPTB want to ensure that everyone get a vaccine that they are working on.
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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 18 2020 0:00 utc | 52

@ Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 18 2020 0:00 utc | 51
So, let’s see if I’m getting it right: for hydroxycloroquine to be “effective”, you have to take it daily, until the end of times, because, once you get it, it becomes ineffective?
Either a drug kills the virus or it doesn’t. If you have more virus in your body, then you take a higher dosage of the drug. A drug doesn’t simply become ineffective because there are more or less of the virus.
But let’s assume your theory is correct. Let’s assume hydroxycloroquine + zinc creates a “force field” that isolates your body from the virus. You would have then a scenario we would have to produce enough of the drug for more than 7 billion individuals, who would have to take it daily, if not hourly, just to keep themselves from being infected. Can you visualize the insanity of such “effective treatment”?

Posted by: vk | Jun 18 2020 0:13 utc | 54

Robert F Kennedy speaks on vaccine mandates
Kennedy on the CDC

Posted by: Perimetr | Jun 18 2020 0:27 utc | 56

If people do not have much contact with ‘normal’ people from India, that is those whose attitudes and belief have been shaped by mass media, which as it uses the englander tabloid press as its model, is IMO about as low, untruthful & tendentious as it is possible fort media to be, they won’t understand how the Sino-Indian conflict cranked up so quick.
These outlets make a good deal of money promoting whatever falsity local politicians pay them to print and matters have gotten considerably worse since facebook has become a stanard way of gassing up these rumours.
A lot of the stuff is low level, someone has a grudge against someone else so they pay an ‘influencer’ to run a story saying that this person is a rockspider – child molester. Their enemy gets town apart by an angry mob and that is the end of it.
Except for China. India’s politicians have been scapegoating China since the 1962 ‘incident’. The article I linked to seems the best of a bad choice – at least it mentions India stirring up trouble in Tibet, which it was doing – chiefly at the behest of england. England made it impossible for China to allow Tibet to remain autonomous as it misused its position as a ex colonial master to run counter-revolutionaries out of Tibet into China from the earliest days of the PRC. Pretty much a carbon copy of what england did im central europe esp Poland from 1917 0n against the Soviet Union.
Anyway in ’62 India got their clock cleaned by China. Since the rise of Modi’s fascistic nationalism, anti-China sentiment has been riding high in India. That same feeling is held by expat Indians everywhere.
A few weeks back I had to buy a TV and when I went into a local store was served by the ubiquitous Indian salesman who on being asked about the reliability of a particular model muttered something along the lines of “Its made in China like all the TV’s here, so its unlikely to be reliable” At which time I pointed out that afaik all the TV’s worked, which wouldn’t be the case had they been made in India – sulk sulk for rest of transaction.
I have seen many instances of individual Indian antipathy towards China. IMO it has been deliberately cultivated by pols through the media.
It is very difficult to find an objective description of what happened on Monday night Tuesday morning, the englander media is just parroting India government talking points.
But we do know it was in an area that is on China’s side of the border and the fact that it kicked off when two unarmed patrols, one from India, the other Chinese, suggests India was the aggressor.
Neither side had guns so it was old school fighting hand to hand with rocks, on a road that curls up a steep mountainside with a sheer drop down to a river.
A lot of Indian troops ended up in that river and drowned.
Since the Indian patrol was bested there are claims circulating the China patrol was much bigger, yet given the off the cuff nature of the blue – no one had come prepared, it is more plausible that the result was the usual result when one side holds the high ground & the other is lower & disadvantaged.
India claims there had been some prior agreement that the border had been shifted made at a conference on June 6 but given that the ceremonies had not been conducted nor bulletins advising this change had been circulated on either side of the border, it is more likely that India took it upon itself to force an issue that had only been discussed, not formalised.
The BBC was really pushing the India POV and also ran a ‘documentary’ purporting to give the good oil on where the coronavirus originated which was full of the innuendo and falsehood orangey spews.
Whatever this is, most likely just a twist of the tiger’s tail, england & amerika are pushing India’s barrow as one more hassle for China.

Posted by: A User | Jun 18 2020 0:59 utc | 58

psychohistorian #6
RSH never sounded real to me. Any real person who posted some of the crap he wrote would have quickly been paid a not-so-friendly visit by G-men.

Posted by: krypton | Jun 18 2020 1:14 utc | 60

I see the trolls are out in force today.
Fuck ’em.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 18 2020 1:24 utc | 62

According to this paper, black people are *nine times* more likely to die of COVID-19 than whites…
The unequal toll of COVID-19 mortality by age in the United States: Quantifying racial/ethnic disparities (PDF)

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 18 2020 1:33 utc | 64

There must be someway out of here said the jokers to the thieves and so there it is. A saying in constitutional legal circles is civil lawyers will stab their mother in the back while pulling the rug out from her and take bets on which way she’ll fall. Image Earth as our Mother and the Bolton Necons as all one monstrous knife in our energy life source. Manufacturing digital algorithms enslaving humanity as disposable commodities.

Posted by: BiloxiMarxK | Jun 18 2020 1:41 utc | 66

More fun over the HCQ drug…
A Mad Scramble to Stock Millions of Malaria Pills, Likely for Nothing
Before the F.D.A. withdrew its waiver to stockpile the drugs as coronavirus treatments, the Trump administration had embarked on a headlong effort to import tens of millions of doses.

The Food and Drug Administration’s abrupt decision this week to revoke an emergency waiver for two malaria drugs promoted by President Trump as potential “game changers” against the coronavirus has left 66 million doses stranded in the federal stockpile — and officials do not yet know what they will do with them.
The F.D.A.’s withdrawal on Monday of its “emergency use authorization” for chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine did not go over well at the White House, where top aides to Mr. Trump had rushed in March to fill the federal stockpile. That included accepting a donation from the pharmaceutical giant Bayer of three million tablets from a factory in Pakistan that had not been certified by the F.D.A. as safe.
“This is a Deep State blindside by bureaucrats who hate the administration they work for more than they’re concerned about saving American lives,” Peter Navarro, Mr. Trump’s trade adviser, who helped distribute 19 million hydroxychloroquine pills, fumed in an interview Monday night.
Medical experts across the country — including those who are researching hydroxychloroquine — on Tuesday applauded the F.D.A.’s withdrawal of the waiver after it concluded the drugs’ potential benefits did not outweigh their risks.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 18 2020 1:46 utc | 68

vk | Jun 18 2020 0:13 utc | 53
LMFAO. You really are on the side of Big Pharma.
… you have to take it daily, until the end of times
No. Your argument is absurd. Firstly, availability of testing is key. Sure, you can take a small dose daily but you could also start treatment as soon as you are feeling sick.
And when the virus is no longer spreading in your area, you can stop. So your “end of times” is just hyperbole.
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Either a drug kills the virus or it doesn’t.
This statement is deliberately misleading. I might’ve thought this was just ignorance, but you’ve shown us that you are propagandist. And with this statement we know you are the worst sort.
Anyone following the issue knows that HCQ allows Zinc to enter a cell. Zinc prevents the virus from replicating. It doesn’t kill the virus, it neuters it.
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“force field”
Exaggerations like “End of times” and “force field” show us that you are a Big Pharma propagandist. Thanks for that.
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… we would have to produce enough of the drug for more than 7 billion individuals, who would have to take it daily, if not hourly …
7 billion? Hourly? LOL. Mr. propagandist with the absurd drama.
People would just need to take it while the virus is a threat in their area. Some might take it every day, others when they feel sick. It’s like social distancing and masks – it’s a temporary measure that lessens the chance that you would get the virus.
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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 18 2020 2:07 utc | 70

Now this is interesting…
Cheap drug is first shown to improve COVID-19 survival

The study, led by the University of Oxford, was a large, strict test that randomly assigned 2,104 patients to get the drug and compared them with 4,321 patients getting only usual care.
The drug was given either orally or through an IV for 10 days. After four weeks, it had reduced deaths by 35% in patients who needed treatment with breathing machines and by 20% in those only needing supplemental oxygen. It did not appear to help less ill patients.
Researchers estimated that the drug would prevent one death for every eight patients treated while on breathing machines and one for every 25 patients on extra oxygen alone.

Now *that* is how you test a new drug: give it to some people, withhold it from an equal or larger number as a control.
Also interesting is that this drug is a corticosteroid – which is exactly the sort of drug recommended by the Front-Line COVID-19 Critical Care Working Group, which I’ve linked to here several times. Here is their analysis of this trial (PDF).

We would like to call attention to the news of a major, large, randomized controlled trial which validates our now long-standing recommendation that corticosteroids must be used, and be used early on, in the hospital course of a COVID19 patient. The RECOVERY trial, conducted by the University of Oxford, reported today that the use of a corticosteroid called dexamethasone improved survival by 1/3 in ventilated patients and by a 1/5 in patients requiring oxygen. While news of these impacts is deeply encouraging and validates our months-long position that Covid19 is indeed a steroid-responsive disease, we believe that larger and more dramatic impacts on survival can be achieved with the drug and dosing strategy incorporated into MATH+.

The new is being greeted with some excitement and some skepticism, since the full study has not been published for review yet – much like HCQ, this is a “study by press release”.
Doctors view dexamethasone results on COVID-19 with excitement and skepticism
But this is interesting, given the FLCCC analysis:

However, some critical care physicians in the U.S. have already been using dexamethasone or a similar steroid for their sickest patients with COVID-19 who are on ventilators.
“I’ve used it on a few dozen COVID-19 patients in my practice over the last two and a half months,” said Dr. Hugh Cassiere, director of critical care medicine at Northwell Health’s North Shore University Hospital on Long Island, New York. Cassiere first tried dexamethasone on very ill patients in the intensive care unit because a previous study suggested it could help patients with acute respiratory distress syndrome get off ventilators more quickly — and reduce deaths.
Saggar, of Holy Name Hospital, said he’s used a similar steroid called methylprednisolone for hospitalized patients with COVID-19, adding the drug should only be used at a certain point in the disease process, never as a preventive measure.
“There is a narrow window when you can use it,” Saggar said. Giving the drug too early might interfere with the body’s natural reaction to fight the virus. Wait too long, Saggar said, and patients risk becoming so ill they need to be intubated and put on a ventilator.
It’s worked in about a third of Cassiere’s sickest COVID-19 patients, he estimated. Despite those anecdotal successes, Cassiere, too, wants to see all of the dexamethasone data from the University of Oxford trial.

That indicates that some doctors have already been trying the FLCCC corticosteroid protocol on their own. FLCCC is not mentioned in the piece. But the methylprednisolone Doctor Saggar uses is the one the FLCCC has been promoting.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 18 2020 2:13 utc | 72

Toilet Flushing Could Spread the Coronavirus via Poop Droplets

“As water pours into the toilet bowl from one side, it strikes the opposite side, creating vortices,” the researchers explain in the journal Physics of Fluids. “These vortices continue upward into the air above the bowl, carrying droplets to a height of nearly three feet, where they might be inhaled or settle onto surfaces. These droplets are so small they float in the air for over a minute. A toilet with two inlet ports for water generates an even greater velocity of upward flowing aerosol particles.”
“The simulation results are alarming,” the scientists say.
And that’s why I wear a mask when using the toilet. I also wear plastic food service gloves so as not to touch the toilet lid or handle..

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 18 2020 2:27 utc | 74

Yes, young people cause virus clusters by ignoring transmission vectors…
Clusters of Coronavirus Disease in Communities, Japan, January–April 2020

We noted many COVID-19 clusters were associated with heavy breathing in close proximity, such as singing at karaoke parties, cheering at clubs, having conversations in bars, and exercising in gymnasiums….
Among the probable primary COVID-19 cases we identified from non-nosocomial clusters, half (11/22) were 20–39 years of age, which is younger than the age distribution of all COVID-19 cases in Japan (Figure 2, panel A). We do not know whether social, biological, or both factors play a role in the difference in transmission patterns between the younger and older persons. We also noted probable primary COVID-19 case-patients appear to transmit the virus and generate clusters even in the absence of apparent respiratory symptoms, such as cough.

They do note in a subsequent paragraph that their study has significant limitations in terms of procedure and data integrity.
Still, this does indicate that younger people readily spread the virus, especially when they don’t know they have it.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 18 2020 2:35 utc | 76

Who is Bill Gates?
Part One: How Bill Gates Monopolized Global Health
Part Two: Bill Gates’ Plan to Vaccinate the World
Part Three: Bill Gates and the Population Control Grid
Part Four: Meet Bill Gates
MIT News: Storing medical information below the skin’s surface
Specialized dye, delivered along with a vaccine, could enable “on-patient” storage of vaccination history
DOD Awards $138 Million Contract, Enabling Prefilled Syringes for Future COVID-19 Vaccine “Jumpstart” will enable the manufacture of more than 100 million prefilled syringes for distribution across the United States by year-end 2020.
The contract also enables ApiJect Systems America to accelerate the launch of RAPID USA manufactured in new and permanent U.S.-based BFS facilities with the ultimate production goal of over 500 million prefilled syringes (doses) in 2021.
Apiject: A digital “snapshot” for every injection With an optional RFID/NFC tag on each BFS prefilled syringe, ApiJect will make this possible. Before giving an injection, the healthcare worker will be able to launch a free mobile app and “tap” the prefilled syringe on their phone, capturing the NFC tag’s unique serial number, GPS location and date/time. The app then uploads the data to a government-selected cloud database. Aggregated injection data provides health administrators an evolving real-time “injection map.”

Posted by: Perimetr | Jun 18 2020 2:41 utc | 78

Another good one from Tim Cushing over at TechDirt…
Trump’s ‘Safe Policing’ Executive Order Does Nothing To Address The Root Causes Of Police Misconduct

Forced into doing something else than donning a Blue Lives Matter cheerleader outfit, Trump and his team have released a new executive order — one promising to reform police departments from the outside using [checks Order] some paperwork cops will probably never fill out completely….
The order says cops must have more credentials. Specifically named are de-escalation procedures and and use-of-force techniques. This doesn’t include a chokehold ban, but that’s likely because this sort of ban would have to be implemented at state level. However, it does make federal funding reliant on a chokehold ban, but it leaves a large loophole for cops to exploit.
…[P]rohibit the use of chokeholds — a physical maneuver that restricts an individual’s ability to breathe for the purposes of incapacitation — except in those situations where the use of deadly force is allowed by law.
Enter the “reasonably scared” cops who are too paralyzed in fear to do anything but choke someone to death. Not exactly the deterrent the current situation calls for….
The only confirmation you need that this mild “reform” effort won’t actually do any serious reforming is the Sergeants Benevolent Association’s (SBA) show of support for the new executive order. The administration burned a few hundred words budging the dial hardly at all and the SBA — backer of the worst of the worst NYPD officers — is happy to hear it. The SBA “commends” the White House for invoking a police-friendly dialog that suggests cops aren’t really bad, they’re just a little under-trained and underfunded.
This won’t change anything. And that’s exactly what this administration wants. The Trump Administration realized doing nothing wasn’t an option. So it did as little as possible. Cops are still safe from accountability and transparency. All that hangs in the balance are unenumerated federal funds they can probably get by without. Business as usual with the veneer of change: that’s the DC way.

Big surprise, I know… What else did we expect from Trump?
My recommendation continues to be: Death to cops.
And no, no one is going to arrest me for saying that…it’s still legal in the US – unless of course I were to directly threaten death to a *specific* cop. Which I’m not dumb enough to do. Unlike the trolls here who appear to be too stupid to recognize what constitutes a “threat” under US law.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 18 2020 3:09 utc | 80

This is an interesting case of how ubiquitous video surveillance and bad OPSEC can land you in jail if you don’t know what’s possible while committing a crime.
The girl with the dragnet tattoo: How a TV news clip, Insta snaps, a glimpse of a tat and a T-shirt sold on Etsy led FBI to alleged cop car arsonist

Carpenter also viewed an Instagram photo depicting the incident, a woman throwing a flaming object at a police car. The FBI then contacted the Instagram account owner who provided several relevant pictures from the scene. One of the images depicts a partial tattoo of a stylized peace sign on the woman’s right forearm.

I used to point out to inmates in the joint that wearing a tattoo is like painting a bullseye on your forehead. One inmate told me he was specifically convicted of a crime that he actually didn’t commit based on the fact that the prosecution forced him to display his tattoos to the jury. (Contrary to myth, most inmates in prison *will* admit – to other inmates – to having committed crimes – they just tend to proclaim that they shouldn’t have been convicted, which is usually BS.)
In the immortal words of William J. Le Petomane: “You watch your ass.”

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 18 2020 3:21 utc | 82

A User 57

ARTICLE I
Neither side shall use its military capability against the other side. No
armed forces deployed by either side in the border areas along the line
of actual control as part of their respective military strength shall be
used to attack the other side, or engage in military activities that
threaten the other side or undermine peace, tranquility and stability in
the India-China border areas.

https://peacemaker.un.org/
China was obeying the letter of the agreement when the hindutva’s decided to build something on the Chinese side of the line.
Believing they are descended from the true Aryans and that they are destined to rule the world did not help much against the descendants of the peasant army that drove the yanks back down through Korea.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 18 2020 3:27 utc | 84

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 18 2020 3:24 utc | 82 Russia, on the other hand, treats spying as a profession, conducts its spy-ops professionally, and gets professional/real results.
Agreed. The other plausible explanation I’ve heard is that Skripal was working for the Brits by developing information on Russian organized crime groups in Europe – and that it was organized crime assassins that tried to take him out. Those two guys who showed up later looked like mafiya to me. But who knows?
It’s possible that both explanations are true: Skripal may have been working for the Brits, but he was about to be exposed by an internal traitor in the spy department, so the Brits then set up a fake attack in order to both expose the internal spy and enable them to shuffle Skripal off to witness protection. As a bonus, they get to use that to demonize Russia some more. Win-win for the Brits. That would be the kind of complicated crap these people come up with.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 18 2020 3:41 utc | 86

Its interesting how the medical establishment have been so quick to recommend protocols that serve to increase mortality. Recommending ventilators for patients with good lung function but low oxygen
levels that provide no benefit and seems to kill patients according to doctors who follow the protocol.
They also recommended not to use cortisone despite Chinese doctors having some success with it, and resisting use of HCQ because it does not benefit seriously ill patients more than standard of care (which are far mire costly and provide more side effects) and ignoring Doctors like Dr Raoult who say it must be used early in disease fir best results and other doctors who suggest its works best with zinc.
On Feb 29 a letter to Lancet was published by Chinese doctors questioning the interpretation of the systematic review about effective treatments for SARS in the West.
“Russell and colleagues state that “four studies provided conclusive data, all indicating harm”. These four studies were not definitive and only showed evidence of possible harm, whereas the results of 25 other studies were inconclusive, leading the original authors to state that the totality of data are inconclusive, and because of methodological limitations, it was not possible to make any recommendation. Inconclusive clinical evidence should not be a reason for abandoning corticosteroid use in 2019-nCoV pneumonia…”
https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140-6736(20)30361-5.pdf
They go on to ssy
“There are studies supporting the use of corticosteroids at low-to-moderate dose in patients with coronavirus infection. For example, in a retrospective study of 401 patients with SARS, proper use of corticosteroids was found to reduce mortality and shorten the length of stay in hospital for critically ill patients with SARS without causing secondary infection and other complications. Relevant research has also been done for other virus-associated respiratory diseases, such as influenza- associated pneumonia. For example, in a prospective cohort study enrolling 2141 patients with influenza A (H1N1)pdm09 viral pneumonia from 407 hospitals in China,5 low-to- moderate dose of corticosteroids (25–150 mg/day methylprednisolone or equivalent) reduced mortality in patients with oxygen index lower than 300 mm Hg. Besides, a systematic review suggested corticosteroids could reduce mortality and the need for mechanical ventilation in patients with severe community-acquired pneumonia.
“….in critically ill patients, the overwhelming inflammation and cytokine-related lung injury might cause rapidly progressive pneumonia. Given the inconclusive evidence and urgent clinical demand, physicians from the Chinese Thoracic Society have developed an expert consensus statement on the use of corticosteroids in 2019-nCoV pneumonia.
….”According to the expert consensus statement, the following basic principles should be followed when using corticosteroids: (1) the benefits and harms should be carefully weighed before using corticosteroids; (2) corticosteroids should be used prudently in critically ill patients with 2019-nCoV pneumonia; (3) for patients with hypoxemia due to underlying diseases or who regularly use corticosteroids for chronic diseases, further use of corticosteroids should be cautious; and (4) the dosage should be low- to-moderate (≤0·5–1 mg/kg per day methylprednisolone or equivalent) and the duration should be short (≤7 days).
…. In line with the expert consensus, we oppose liberal use of corticosteroids and recommend short courses of corticosteroids at low-to- moderate dose, used prudently, for critically ill patients with 2019-nCoV pneumonia.”
Seems pretty clear to me,
Now FDA, which falls under the umbrella of HHS, and headed by a Big Pharma guy is withdrawing its support for stockpiling HCQ. Well, they already stockpiled it but it didn’t get to many patients except Trump and no doubt other big shots because guys like Gates owned Fauci and others with conflicted interests in vaccines and Giles drugs kept pouring water on its benefits when used early in the disease .
I swear to god (or Gates) if you read the letter you will see one of the studies they use to justify their decision, and the only study for non hospitalized patients , is this. Try not to laugh to hard.
“One such trial conducted under U.S. IND recently published results showing no significant difference in development of symptomatic illness compatible with COVID-19 between HCQ and placebo recipients for post-exposure prophylaxis, though with limitations that outcomes were largely self-reported with little opportunity for laboratory confirmation.”
This is described by the investigators as a “pragmatic” trial in which participants were recruited through social media and almost all data were reported by the participants. Adults who described a high-risk or moderate-risk exposure to someone with Covid-19 in their household or an occupational setting were provided hydroxychloroquine or placebo (by mail) within 4 days after the reported exposure, and before symptoms would be expected to develop. The authors enrolled 821 participants; an illness that was considered to be consistent with Covid-19 developed in 107 participants (13.0%) but was confirmed by polymerase-chain-reaction assay in less than 3% of the participants. The incidence of a new illness compatible with Covid-19 did not differ significantly between participants receiving hydroxychloroquine (49 of 414 [11.8%]) and those receiving placebo (58 of 407 [14.3%]). Although participant-reported side effects were significantly more common in those receiving hydroxychloroquine (40.1%) than in those receiving placebo (16.8%), no serious adverse reactions were reported.
This trial has many limitations, acknowledged by the investigators. The trial methods did not allow consistent proof of exposure to SARS-CoV-2 or consistent laboratory confirmation that the symptom complex that was reported represented a SARS-CoV-2 infection. Indeed, the specificity of participant-reported Covid-19 symptoms is low,so it is hard to be certain how many participants in the trial actually had Covid-19. Adherence to the interventions could not be monitored, and participants reported less-than-perfect adherence, more notably in the group receiving hydroxychloroquine. In addition, those enrolled in the trial were younger (median age, 40 years) and had fewer coexisting conditions than persons in whom severe Covid-19 is most likely to develop, so enrollment of higher-risk participants might have yielded a different result.
The trial design raises questions about the expected prevention benefits of hydroxychloroquine. Studies of postexposure prophylaxis are intended to provide an intervention in the shortest possible time to prevent infection. In a small-animal model of SARS-CoV-2 infection, prevention of infection or more severe disease was observed only when the experimental antiviral agent was given before or shortly after exposure. In the current trial, the long delay between perceived exposure to SARS-CoV-2 and the initiation of hydroxychloroquine (≥3 days in most participants) suggests that what was being assessed was prevention of symptoms or progression of Covid-19, rather than prevention of SARS-CoV-2 infection.)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7289275/

Posted by: Kay Fabe | Jun 18 2020 4:19 utc | 88

re Peter AU1 | Jun 18 2020 3:27 utc | 83
The incident happened at night in darkness, I dunno if anyone much less a squad of Indian soldiers knocks up buildings in the middle of the night.
The squad was sent in to judge the lay of the land prior to building a guardpost or whatever, but since there had been no details of India’s suggested changes published by either side, the generals who sent them (One of the dead Indians was a full colonel) must have known it was a provocation.
India keeps claiming there had been mutual agreement yet AFAIK India has not published copies of any jointly signed agreement which would be the minimum paperwork for an agreed border change, it seems to me that there is a considerable amount of duplicity & duckshoving by India’s officials.
One thing is for sure when it has been proven to have been India’s cock-up we won’t be seeing any headlines in usuk fishwraps telling us that.

Posted by: A User | Jun 18 2020 4:42 utc | 90

Posted by: Antonym | Jun 18 2020 5:04 utc | 90 Do explain why the PLA’s air force entered Taiwan’s airspace 3 times the last 7 days?
I’d say that’s obviously because the US has deployed three aircraft carrier battle groups to the Pacific. Normal “tit-for-tat”. Also, the US is apparently interested in passing the “Taiwan Defense Act” which would require the Pentagon to undertake the mission of bolstering Taiwan’s defense.
Then there’s this:
China, Taiwan: US flight path that drove China to brink of conflict

The trigger for the confrontation was the presence of a US Navy C-40A “Clipper” transport aircraft – a militarised version of the commercial Boeing 737 passenger jet. It had flown an approved, though unusual, flight path over Taiwan’s airspace on its way to Southeast Asia from the significant US base at Okinawa.
The flight was always going to upset Beijing.

So as I say, “tit-for-tat”.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 18 2020 5:18 utc | 92

Richard Steven Hack @Jun18 3:09 #79

Trump’s ‘Safe Policing’ Executive Order Does Nothing To Address The Root Causes Of Police Misconduct

Yeah, see the link to theOnion.com parody in my comment @14.
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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 18 2020 5:36 utc | 94

Good to see you again Peter AU1.
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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 18 2020 5:37 utc | 96

re typical over the top hindu strawman. China is not trying to claim all of the South China sea, but because of amerika’s insistence on ‘force projection’ around the entire globe right up to the start of every other nation’s sea boundaries, in the interests of self defense, China, a nation which has always been generous to the hopeless amerika, (eg China has been carrying trillions of $$$’s of amerikan debt which is what has been keeping amerikans fed, something amerika’s elite have no interest in doing) has had to claim previously undeclared islands just to ensure China’s territorial integrity.
Attempting to defend india’s petty parochialism on this issue is astounding – especially when considering this time the border in question is that between China and indian occupied Kashmir.
India’s treatment of Kashmiris is genocidal, particularly when considering the latest ‘adjustment’ to the law governing who can be deemed a kashmiri.
The Kashmir mess started at partition. Caused by that part of Kashmir having a hindu maharajah foisted on them by the english, because englanders were keen to see at least part of the Chinese border deemed to be India.
Congress were bad enough but nothing can touch the BJP for sheer gratuitous cruelty to minorities especially minorities that practise islam.
I lived in India for a time as a young man & really liked people I met, but the racist attitudes now permeating that nation are contemptible.
Their obvious feelings of inferiority towards China are stupid & un-neccessary yet so many Indian citizens perpetuate this nonsense.
Now after a law change of a few days ago, any old hindu who wants to get full rights as a Kashmiri just needs to pay some greedy bureaucrat a few rupees, in exchange gets a piece of paper saying he has been a resident of Kashmir for >18 years and abracadabra he/she is Kashmiri. Combine that with what Modi has been doing in other states that have a substantial Muslim population with the Citizenship Act and it will be only a matter of time before Kashmiris are strangers in their own land.

Posted by: A User | Jun 18 2020 6:31 utc | 98

India has joined the US, Japan, Australia pact to take down China. America will fight China to the last citizen of these countries.
From what I have read, The US India military agreement signed some time ago is for joint use of military facilities. I don’t see India using US airfields for attacks on Canada or Mexico, but US would sure like to use some Indian bases. India is now apparently building new infrastructure along its border with China, which under the agreement with the US, US will have full use of.
A User. Perhaps they weren’t trying to build something, but night time is the best time to knock up something and sit on it next morning as fait accompli. Using iron bars allows the Indians a face saving way to back off if they wish to – putting it down to a brawl between soldiers rather than a military engagement between countries.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 18 2020 7:01 utc | 100