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June 10, 2020

Open Thread 2020-46

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Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 11 2020 0:13 utc | 47

Unfortunately the zionist fortress is taking place since 1948..since "Nakba" started.A never ending expansion but no it's not for the defence of has nothing to do with that.the ruling zionists are simply white racist settlers or more simply "troublemakers" as they where called in 19th century.They never acted with compassion towards other jews but only for " a state at ANY cost".

Posted by: LuBa | Jun 11 2020 10:14 utc | 101

Posted by: Mao | Jun 11 2020 10:10 utc | 100

Crooke is usually pretty good.

I did notice this line: "Perhaps the brotherhood of billionaires is thinking that ‘unless we ourselves take a hand now, they’ll foist socialism on us’."

Maybe *they're* thinking to "foist socialism on us" to "take a hand." When was the last time - *any* time - socialism worked *without the state*? And who has controlled the state in virtually every moment of history (except maybe before the mercantile class even existed)?

To quote the line used above in another context, "be careful what you wish for."

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 11 2020 10:55 utc | 102

Sorry, my post was in response to Down South at 99... Apologies.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 11 2020 10:56 utc | 103

Did the Anglo-Saxon era really exist? Expert claims Germans never 'invaded' Britain and the Romans continued to influence English language, religion and culture long after the fall of the Empire in 410AD

Posted by: Mao | Jun 11 2020 10:56 utc | 104

Posted by: LuBa | Jun 11 2020 10:14 utc | 101 Unfortunately the zionist fortress is taking place since 1948

Despite the fact that it has lasted for seventy years, it can't last forever. So their plan is doomed. It's only a matter of how and when, not if.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 11 2020 10:58 utc | 105

The Australian High Court has ruled that correspondence between the Queen and the Governor-General of Australia, her viceroy in the former British colony, is no longer "personal" and the property of Buckingham Palace. Why does this matter?

Secret letters written in 1975 by the Queen and her man in Canberra, Sir John Kerr, can now be released by the National Archives - if the Australian establishment allows it. On November 11, 1975, Kerr infamously sacked the reformist government of prime minister Gough Whitlam, and delivered Australia into the hands of the United States.

Today, Australia is a vassal state bar none: its politics, intelligence agencies, military and much of its media are integrated into Washington's "sphere of dominance" and war plans. In Donald Trump's current provocations of China, the US bases in Australia are described as the "tip of the spear".

There is an historical amnesia among Australia's polite society about the catastrophic events of 1975. An Anglo-American coup overthrew a democratically elected ally in a demeaning scandal in which sections of the Australian elite colluded. This is largely unmentionable. The stamina and achievement of the Australian historian Jenny Hocking in forcing the High Court's decision are exceptional.

Gough Whitlam was driven from government on Remembrance Day, 1975. When he died six years ago, his achievements were recognised, if grudgingly, his mistakes noted in false sorrow. The truth of the coup against him, it was hoped, would be buried with him.

During the Whitlam years, 1972-75, Australia briefly achieved independence and became intolerably progressive. Politically, it was an astonishing period. An American commentator wrote that no country had "reversed its posture in international affairs so totally without going through a domestic revolution".

Posted by: 2020 | Jun 11 2020 11:02 utc | 106

Chicago mayor Richard Daley's famous quote is even more applicable than it was 50 years ago:

Gentlemen, let's get the thing straight, once and for all. The policeman isn't there to create disorder; the policeman is there to preserve disorder.

Posted by: Trailer Trash | Jun 11 2020 16:40 utc | 107

Chinese doctors destroy Harvard's ridiculous "parking lot" theory:

Doctors reject 'error-filled' Harvard paper

It's simply a complete demolition. I've got nothing to add to that other than that the Harvard paper is scientifically proven false.


I echo other commenters here about Bannon's recent interview to Asia Times' David P. Goldman.

Just liked to add one important excerpt that was overlooked here:

That’s why I think I’m honored to be given an interview in the Asia Times, which is such an important voice and platform in Asia. I believe the 21st century is the Asian century, the Pacific century. And that’s why, as a young man, I left home and went to the Pacific fleet. I’ve had a great affinity for the Pacific, a great affinity for Asia. And now is the Asia moment.

First of all, Bannon makes it clear he isn't fighting for some kind of white Christian supremacy (which is the far-right narrative). He's literally fighting against socialism. It's not that he's offended with the 21st Century being the Asian Century, but that he doesn't accept and will fight to the death to keep Asia a capitalist region.

The Cold War continues. Social-democrats and liberals can whine all they want, it won't change the facts.


Bannon's interview also explains why NATO is trying to absorb the USA-China geopolitical affairs as if they were of their own:

China is 'coming closer' but we don't want a new adversary, NATO chief says

Stoltenberg's sophisticated rhetoric doesn't leave any room for doubt: the shift of the center of human civilization from the Northern Atlantic to the Western Pacific represents the beginning of the struggle of the European Peninsula to keep itself relevant.

What Stoltenberg wants to say is this: please, USA, don't abandon us, we're still useful to you.

Meanwhile, Germany is already at damage reduction mode, and seems to be willing to accept cooperation with China. My guess is that there's still some kind of "Prussian elite" in the sense that it has at least something that resembles an Eastern agenda (I don't know if East Germany exterminated them or not, so I'm guessing here). We know, for example, that the car-making capitalist class in Germany is full pro-Eurasian integration, for obvious reasons (China is the main car producer and soon to be one of the main car consumer markets, while Russia is a fertile ground for car-making plants, in a very favorable trade balance against Russian gas). I don't know - my guess is that the German capitalist class is divided on this issue.


@ Posted by: Mao | Jun 11 2020 10:56 utc | 104

When historians use the term "invasion" when describing the end of the Roman Empire in the West, they don't really mean it.

For starters, most of these Germanic barbarians came to Roman territory by invitation, and were not warriors. Rome was largely depopulated by the 3rd Century, due to countless civil wars and plagues. It needed peasants to repopulate its territories and restart the Roman agrarian economy (which was the backbone of Ancient economy). Think of them as the Ancient World's Mexican illegal immigrants: publicly, they are criticized and deemed "invaders", but, privately, they are needed, and nobody complains when they see one mowing your backyard or serving you at McDonald's.

By the 3rd Century, most magistri militum in the Roman west were Germanic - Flavius Stilicho, for example, was half-Vandal.

Even after the Roman Empire in the West fell, it didn't really fell: Odovacer continued with formal diplomatic relations with Zeno, and continued to recognize him as Roman emperor. The difference lied in the fact that the office of Roman Emperor in the West simply wasn't that attractive anymore: Odovacer didn't nominate himself emperor for the simple fact it was better for his career to continue being king of the Goths.

What really hurt the Roman Empire in the West, what really made the office of the Roman Emperor in the West not that attractive anymore, was the Vandal conquest of North Africa. The Vandals were a random Germanic tribe of little importance, but they begun raiding Hispania and, seeing no Roman legion was bothering to save the province, continued raiding southwards until they realized they could cross the Pillars of Hercules (Gibraltar Strait) and continue raiding North Africa.

The conquest of North Africa allowed the Vandals to, first of all, build a kingdom. Then they realized they could build a fleet: this fleet imposed a series of defeats to the Roman ones, and, all of a sudden, Rome was not the sole Mediterranean empire anymore. This dealt a heavy blow to commerce in Rome. Lastly and most importantly, it ended the flow of grains to Italy, and ended the flow of taxes from most profitable profitable provinces.

Britannia was the first province to be completely lost. But the Church survived intact there, and the Jutes, and, after them, the Angles and Saxons, already were Christians by the time they occupied Britannia, so there wasn't that great cultural shock to the local population. They also didn't practice genocide, they simply absorbed the local population after decades of de facto abandonment by the Roman State of the province (the death of Magnus Maximus). There wasn't the concept of race or nationalism in the Ancient World (both are 19th Century inventions), so, to the local peasants of Britannia, it didn't really matter if their governors were Romans or Germanic.

Besides, we must not overestimate the size and reach of the State in the Ancient World: even by neoliberal standards, the Roman Empire was a very small State, with minimum capacity of intervening at 99% of its subjects. When we say "Roman State", we're basically stating the Army and the legal (petition) system. Most Romans - even from the Pax Romana era - would live normally as peasants without never seeing a Roman official that wasn't the tax collector in their lives.

Posted by: vk | Jun 11 2020 16:46 utc | 108

Posted by: Trailer Trash | Jun 11 2020 16:40 utc | 107

I still remember Mayor Daley and his family control Cook County and that's how Kennedy win..

"Gentlemen, let's get the thing straight, once and for all. The policeman isn't there to create disorder; the policeman is there to preserve disorder."

Posted by: JC | Jun 11 2020 17:07 utc | 109

Richard Steven Hack @ Jun11 4:43 # 80

And we are back to the issue of human nature derailing anything and everything that might actually provide a way forward out of the morass that is human existence.

I think the problem isn't human nature itself but certain aspects of human nature - greed and hierarchy - that have been amplified institutional structures.

My solution is simply to take advantage of whatever technological progress is made in extending life span and human capability until such time as I can achieve something approximating the "post-human" condition.

Many will perceive this "transhumanism" with great concern as a new form of ubermensch. If we don't evolve together, then any "transhuman" minority will oppress humanity. And so I agree with Blue Dotterel @ Jun11 7:09 # 95

Human nature won't be "changed" by technology. It is being reinforced by it.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 11 2020 17:09 utc | 110

Down South @ Jun11 8:57 # 99

Welcome back!


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 11 2020 17:11 utc | 111

"United States Sanctions International Criminal Court Officials"

Sanctions R US

Posted by: arby | Jun 11 2020 17:27 utc | 112

If the government won't remove them, they will be removed by other means. Lang must surely be apoplectic about this. Perhaps he and his white supremacist militia he leads can protect the remaining monuments from being torn down and/or defiled. Then we can get the civil war on for real and Lang can he America's Hafter/Hifter/Hefter. A dream come true for him.

Portsmouth Confederate Statues Beheaded, Partially Pulled Down By Protesters

Hey Bitches, What's Good For The Goose Is Good For The Gander. You Set The Precedent, So Suck On It You Bastards

Posted by: | Jun 11 2020 17:29 utc | 113

Protesters can make a real statement if they flood one of Trump's rallies and shut it down. Protesters should be storming the Capitol Building in Georgia and demanding the resignation of Brian Kemp for illegal voter suppression. The right to vote is as important as police brutality.

Protesters, if they're organized and it's truly a movement, should be planning on occupying the city Trump picks for the Republican Convention and shut the bitch down.

None of that is going to happen, hence this is not a movement by any means. It makes for great ratings though. Maybe that was the intent all along. The media is addicted to the spectacle and if there are no organic spectacles, they stoke them out of thin air.

Posted by: | Jun 11 2020 17:41 utc | 114

Imagining it is possible to cheat death is pure psychosis.
Except when paid by the word.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 11 2020 18:01 utc | 115

Activist Potato @63--

Thanks for your reply! On this thread, I'm not attempting to explore what's happening now. I'm writing about that at my VK space in a serialized format. However, I'm very pleased with what I discovered, learned and was able to share as many have profited from those efforts. My research method leads me to examine the sources being cited, then to the sources those previous sources cite, and so forth until I'm inundated with books and journals, and so it was with my investigation into the history of policing within the Outlaw US Empire. Little of what I learned will be included in my present writing aside from exposing the greatest theft and fraud to ever occur in the human history, which as I remind people is ongoing at a clip of billions of dollars a day. Hell, just during May, over one Trillion dollars was looted from US taxpayers and funneled by the Federal Reserve to the Money Power on Wall Street. There are a few attuned to what's actually happening, while IMO the masses now have a sense since they aren't as gullible as the elite thought. Hudson outlines the activities that can't really be hidden as they're reported daily in the financial press and related sections of newspapers:

"There is only one reason for a stock or bond prices to go up. And that’s because of the flow of funds into the stock market. [Something very basic that most people understand.] What had been supporting the stock market for the last 12 years was very largely stock buybacks by companies using their revenue to sort of close down their business, disinvest and buy their own stocks to at least keep the prices up. Well, what’s flowing into the market right now? Obviously, it’s not corporate profits buying their own stocks, and it’s certainly not popular money coming into the market by small investors thinking that stocks are going to earn more. All this money is coming into the market from the 10 trillion dollar bailout via the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve is going out directly and is buying stocks, bonds, junk bonds, mortgages, junk mortgages, all to prop up the value of assets. (And such open buying's being announced openly, so a fair portion of the public knows.)

"Now, when it’s putting this money into the stock market, it’s buying stocks that are already issued and have long since —the proceeds have been spent on building factories or enterprises or as means of making money. So none of this bailout money, none of this 10 trillion going into the stock market has any effect at all on the real economy of production and consumption. It’s solely to support the assets that are held almost eighty five percent by the wealthiest 10 percent of the economy."

The usual smoke & mirrors don't work when the public knows business is way down, unemployment way up, and yet the stock market after an initial downturn is threatening to break 30,000. As with the initial dive, logic demands that the rise is impossible unless reality's being messed with, which of course is exactly what's happening. This is the fraud made legal by not enforcing the laws by Alan Greenspan and GHW Bush, at the time when the latter was actually running the nation for the demented Reagan in 1987. It was Greenspan who came up with the idea of using debt to break unions and control society. Greenspan's responsible for more repression of the citizenry than the collective efforts of all the Confederacy's generals.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 11 2020 18:09 utc | 116

following up my post @13 What is a vassal state?

As if on cue, this Neocon validates my definition of a vassal state and with my country of choice, Iraq.
I am posting my reply because it gives you the gist of the article without having to follow the link but by all means read the entire article.

Reply by Chris Chuba
"Dialogue" = Do what we want or else.
"A new government in Baghdad under Mustafa al-Kadhimi could jumpstart greater cooperation against Iranian proxies." = we want you to target Iraqi citizens the U.S. and Israel doesn't like

"Washington and Baghdad should address growing Russian and Chinese influence"
= Glad we aren't even pretending that Iraq is a sovereign country. Why shouldn't Iraq pursue a relationship with China or Russia commercially or even buy military equipment at a better price. The last time I checked neither of those countries invaded Iraq under false pretenses.

"Crucially, the United States should avoid further military withdrawals that signal America’s presence is only temporary."
= But what if the Iraqis want us to leave? Oh yeah, we are an occupying force and this author is just trying to find a way to make the occupation successful.

Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Jun 11 2020 18:12 utc | 117

I didn't link to my VK Space @114 because Typepad immediately sends any item with VK in the url directly to moderation. So, this comment will eventuall show up soon after 114 numerically and even with the correct time stamp, but it will be delayed for hours until b frees it. The link's attached to my pen name, karlof1.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 11 2020 18:14 utc | 118

Wikipedia is dominated by state-sponsored propaganda and corporate PR

Yet while the website markets itself as an open-source encyclopedia that anyone in the world can edit, the reality is the platform is tightly controlled by a small group of administrators and editors – and heavily dominated by powerful institutions that have the resources to mobilize users to advance their interests.
An academic study found that, from 2001 to 2010, a staggering 80 percent of edits on Wikipedia were made by just 1 percent of users.
In fact, statistics provided by Wikipedia shows that just over 3,000 editors are “very active” on the website, meaning they contribute more than 100 edits per month.

So Wikipedia anything but the democratic and decentralized marketplace of ideas and information it advertises itself as.
Even more troubling is the fact that governments, intelligence agencies, and large corporations maintain significant influence over Wikipedia, editing the encyclopedia to push their agendas, while carefully monitoring articles and policing new edits.

The CIA, FBI, New York Police Department, Vatican, and fossil fuel colossus BP, to name just a few, have all been caught directly editing Wikipedia articles.
But the rot goes much deeper. Powerful interests, from states to companies, hire Wikipedia editors to sanitize entries about themselves. Past clients for these services have included social media giant Facebook itself, along with corporate media juggernauts like NBC and the Koch Brothers oligarchs.

Politically motivated editing (also censoring) by small groups
Wikipedia has given the interventionist pro-NATO blog Bellingcat a green light as a credible source on par with the AP.
Bellingcat is funded by the US government’s regime-change arm the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), a CIA cutout created by Ronald Reagan, and is host to a crew of regime-change advocates who work with Western government-backed organizations like the Atlantic Council.
Also Wikipedia considers neoconservative websites that printed conspiratorial lies about non-existent “WMDs” to be reliable sources,
Wikipedia has also demonized the transparency publishing organization WikiLeaks, officially classifying it “generally unreliable,” Evev so WikiLeaks has a 100 percent track record for publishing accurate documents. This is not disputed by any reliable source.

Posted by: Ashino | Jun 11 2020 18:24 utc | 119

The Last American Vagabond

Epstein Victim Maria Farmer Speaks With Whitney Webb, Full Phone Call - Part 1

Whitney Webb recently spoke with Maria Farmer, the first victim of Jeffrey Epstein who had the courage to come forward. We have broken this 3 hour conversation into two parts, this is part 1. Edits were only made where comments were given off the record.

Posted by: Ashino | Jun 11 2020 18:30 utc | 120

@87 occupatio

I actually agree with Bannon. This coming election will be centered around Chinese-American relations.

I have checked out the past week because all this BLM protest shit is really depressing but have posters here generally come to the light about what these street spectacles really concern?

They have been funded and activated for political gain being steered by its top eschelons. Its rabble-rousers at the bottom are generally allowed to loot and topple historical monuments and those peaceful are encouraged by the same central leaders to demonstrate apolitically.

But make no mistake, the crux of the matter is Trump's repositioning America as a more, at least on the surface, nationalist, protectionist state, where China is enemy #1.

I can't say I disagree with this stance, although with the caveat that those crypto-neocons like Bannon are shooed away and it appears that POTUS is inclined to agree as Bannon was indeed axed.

The benefits to such rhetoric elevated to a national level is a better outlook for blue collar Americans, even though Chinese-prop peddlers in here will repeat ad nauseum, "Those jobs aren't coming back," eschewing all economic principles arrising from necessity, and a shift towards better relations with Russia, a resurgent Christian/western nation.

These protests, however, are quickly veering out of control to the benefit of POTUS. Racial divisiveness being employed by the left here is backfiring spectacularly. It is all so such a mess that I honestly wonder if the neolibs actually believed this would help defeat Trump. Or, what's more, perhaps I am reading this wrong and Biden is truly surging on the back of this desperate ploy to villianize Trump.

But to my original point about U.S.-China relations, what we will see if Trump is ousted is an immediate cleaning-house of all Trump-appointed administrators with old-guard neolibs coming back along with Obama's guiding hand. If Biden isn't replaced by election, he will be essentially a figure-head and a useless battleground for his own fleeing mind.

Russia will be the boogeyman once again. Big tech will encroach even further and everyone will be happy that the admin will be sure to mention "people of color" at every state dept. briefing from now until the end of the neolib age.

Posted by: Nemesiscalling | Jun 11 2020 18:33 utc | 121

c'mon nemesis... and all this chinese-amercian - hong- kong bullshite or trump for that matter isn't funded by the same??

i am sure americanos want to get off this merry go round and try something else.... thinking it is about repubs or dems completely misses what is going on here..

@99 down south.. thanks for sharing that..

Posted by: james | Jun 11 2020 18:43 utc | 122

@114 I would humbly suggest there may be other reasons for stocks to go up other than Fed activity and stock buybacks by corporations.

The Nasdaq in particular has been higher because of stocks like Apple, Amazon, eBay, Regeneron etc. which seem immune to Covid. The DOW is slightly different but the buying there has been because funds expect the virus crisis to be resolved and they don't want to miss the recovery. I'm not saying they are right or wrong but those are the factors moving the market.

Posted by: dh | Jun 11 2020 18:45 utc | 123

Max and Stacy suggested this rather lengthy article, "Covid has exposed America as a failed state." It's written from the British POV and gets a number of important points wrong, but it also makes a few good points, this being perhaps the most important:

"In a manner we can safely assume is not replicated in China, the architects of America’s endless policy failures, like the Iraq War, are not punished by the system, but awarded further sinecures and promotions by an establishment which rewards failure and hobbles success. Defeat is baked in from the outset: the rot is now so widespread it will likely become terminal....

"As in any horror movie, the threat’s coming from inside the building: all America’s rivals need do, like Russia in Syria, is exploit the contradictions and weaknesses of US policy, and turn the superpower’s weight and power against it at minimal cost and risk to themselves."

Despite its deficiencies caused by incorrect premises leading to wrong conclusions, IMO it's still worth the time to read.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 11 2020 18:51 utc | 124

I see that b has freed my comment containing the link to my VK Space quite quickly and is now @118. Thanks b!

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 11 2020 18:53 utc | 125

Posted by: | Jun 10 2020 18:17 utc | 8

Shifting the focus from the police, which in most cases have a monopoly on the use of deadly force and freedom from legal accountability which they take advantage of often, especially against poor people (and people of color, who are often poor in the US) is a particularly shallow ploy in part because most people who do so don't understand the first thing about the (mostly) black communities in which "black on black" crime occurs.

In fact, it's related to the recent protests but whatever bubble or echo chamber you are getting your information from ignores that it's almost always occurring in places where black people.....can't trust the police to redress wrongs done against them.

Look at the first post in this thread - a black liquor store owner subdues a burglar, calls the police, sees them arriving, ejects the magazine from his pistol, un-chambers the round, and puts it down with his hand on it. Apparently he was just too uppity within the first 4 seconds of his interaction with the police, so they punched him right away, breaking his jaw and knocking out several teeth. Now, I suppose you could say "at least they didn't shoot him!" and I'm sure you would, but that's just one contemporary example of black people being unable to trust the police.

Coupled with extreme multi-generational poverty due to crummy schools, single parent households (with fathers often in jail for petty, non-violent and drug offenses) no jobs and the forced inability to acquire wealth in the form of property, and to pass that wealth down to future generations, you have a recipe for disaster such as is playing out in St. Louis, Chicago and formerly Detroit.

I recommend that you check out a book called "On The Run" by Alice Hoffman for some perspective. I also recommend "Colony Within a Nation" by Chris Hayes (he writes much more freely and speaks out against the corporate power structure when he's not on air at his corporate employer - go figure) and "The Divide" by Matt Taibbi.

Combined, those books will give you a picture 'from the other side' and you may start to see that these protests against police militarization and violence on blacks (and others) are also protests about marginalized communities like inner city Chicago, where black-on-black crime is high, not being able to trust the police to serve their needs as individuals or a community.

Posted by: _K_C_ | Jun 11 2020 18:57 utc | 126

@ Posted by: Nemesiscalling | Jun 11 2020 18:33 utc | 121

Your opinion is wrong for many factual reasons, but I'm just going to highlight the essential: the USA is deindustrializing - and not reindustrializing - during the Trump era. Those jobs are literally not coming back - this is not imagination.

And unemployment is rising, not falling. Everything you claim Trump is achieving is happening exactly in the opposite direction. It's not that you're even trying to debate: you're simply reversing reality.

Now, you could claim Trump's policies are being sabotaged by a the deep state. However, you can't find a stance where Trump attacks Wall Street. On the contrary: he uses Wall Street's prosperity as a direct gauge for American prosperity. Trump doesn't seem to be - nor is he acting in the direction - an anti-finance guy.

Posted by: vk | Jun 11 2020 19:04 utc | 127

@122 james

I see you missed the boat on my post. It is not about repubs/dems but of course two factions of elites sparring. One has control right now and leans nationalist...the other is building a coalition that is at once sizable and formiddable but continuously stepping over quarters to pick up pennies.

That is my analysis. My consent of course belongs to the party that loves its country more.

Posted by: Nemesiscalling | Jun 11 2020 19:09 utc | 128

@128 addendum

Sparring is a very poorchoice od words. My mistake.

It implies practicing or theatrical fighting/fake wrestling.

I like pft's comments, but I don't believe that blood has not been spilt btw our two warring factions.


Didn't read your post. Never do. Don't have to to know your angle.

Posted by: Nemesiscalling | Jun 11 2020 19:15 utc | 129

@ Posted by: Nemesiscalling | Jun 11 2020 19:15 utc | 129

My "angle" is irrelevant. What matters is real facts.

You may preach to yourself that Trump is a nationalist and that the US economy will fix itself by sheer power of necessity. That's your right: wanting to sleep better at night is in the human nature, I don't blame you for that.

It won't change the fact that the US people is on its knees and will continue to be for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: vk | Jun 11 2020 19:19 utc | 130

Trump is not a nationalist or a populist. He pretends to be one and has a few in his cabinet who also happen to be white supremacists (hence one of his few actually nationalist policies - the war on immigrants), but vk | Jun 11 2020 19:04 utc | 127 is correct. Trump is not bringing back manufacturing jobs or even meaningful jobs with benefits that one might call a career. It's a continuation, in some cases on steroids, of the neoliberal/neocon policies of the past several presidents and the final stages of the financialization of everything in which a relative few oligarchs buy up the final remaining assets and assume complete control over the government.

What do you think will happen if the trade war with China results in American (which are really mostly multi-national) firms pulling their manufacturing out of that country? That the jobs will come back to the USA? LOL. No, Wall Street and the globalists will simply pick the next up and coming "developing country" in which the plants will be built and jobs will be sent. Wash, rinse and repeat. Over and over again until there are no developing nations and poor, desperate workers to exploit. Luckily for the oligarchs, by then most things (including war making) will be automated so human capital, and the inconveniences that come along with it, will be one less thing for them to worry about. At that point, would you support a Universal Basic Income or should we help the machines and load the "less worthy" among us into the battery chambers ala "The Matrix"?

Posted by: _K_C_ | Jun 11 2020 19:20 utc | 131

usa. a piece by a semi-repentant cop. posted as it illustrates not only the us-vs-them tribal mentality but also the internal mechanisms of punishment, coercion, hazing, competition, etc.

I was a police officer for nearly ten years and I was a bastard. We all were.

for those who are genuinely intererested in ‘serious’ police reform (USA), have a look at Campaign Zero. Concrete proposals, info, etc. much could be discussed re. their ‘take’… but it is not my place as not in the US, and ‘policing’ is v. diff. in diff societies, no ‘global’ +++ performing formulae exist.

those really concerned might like to post proposals of various kinds divorced from historical analysis that explains things away and exemplifies 'academic' sterile discussions? concentrating on the here and now, as people actually die, horribly and needlessly? which btw has been known for a looong time?

Posted by: Noirette | Jun 11 2020 19:22 utc | 132


Bizarre EU Funded Comic Book Predicted Pandemic, With Globalists As Saviours. c-book from 2012. def. worth a look. super creepy.

The prediction of a global corona virus pandemic has been made many times in fictional works.

Movie *Contagion*, 2011. At the CDC, Dr. Ally Hextall determines the virus is a combination of genetic material from pig and bat-borne viruses. Research on a cure stalls because scientists are unable to discover a cell culture within which to grow the newly identified MEV-1. (wiki).

In 1981 Dean Kootz invented the deadly Wuhan-400 virus in his novel *The Eyes of Darkness.*

There are others (Stephen King..)

The story peddled to the public in 2020 is a kind of cobbled together version of these expectations, plot skeletons, tropes, now memes. Outbreak in Wuhan, due to wet market, bats, level 4 lab, etc. A convenient tradition, peg, that blames China - imho rubbish (see some of my previous posts.)

Posted by: Noirette | Jun 11 2020 19:30 utc | 133

>> No, Wall Street and the globalists will simply pick the next up
>> and coming "developing country" in which the plants will be
>> built and jobs will be sent.

Agree they’ll try. Good luck to them! /s

My hypothesis to explain why China has done so well the past 75 years compared to some other large countries is that the communists dramatically improved the level of health and education in the country. Housed, healthy, non-stressed educated workers can be very productive. Good luck finding that in neoliberal shitholes.

Posted by: oglalla | Jun 11 2020 19:52 utc | 134

I find it hilarious that India was getting all excited about an industrial investment windfall resulting from that investment being pulled from China due to America's bio attack on that country. They thought for sure this would be their big opportunity to bootstrap out of the Dark Ages. They kept their economy open for as long as possible to make themselves as attractive as possible to the planet's biggest oligarchs, but that investment windfall never came. I rather doubt any of those oligarchs ever even considered India in the first place, but I guess it is obligatory that everyone in the capitalist world has to doll themselves up when it looks like the rich guy might have dumped his favorite squeeze in the hopes of catching his eye (and thus some of his money).

But India got nothing other than the bitter memory of a squandered opportunity to block the Fort Detrick Flu.

For those poor desperately delusional fools who think this bio attack on China will bring industrial investment flooding back to the States to save the empire, do keep in mind that India is at least a hundred countries ahead of America in line to get that investment. Indeed, America is last in line to get that investment. That's as bad as it sounds, with any investment pulled from China returning to China before those investors even consider the US.

Nothing personal. It's just business.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 11 2020 20:14 utc | 135

@ 128 nemesis calling... thanks for your response.. we see it differently i mostly all i can say... i continue to believe the usa is on a downhill trajectory and no amount of talk is going to change this... your comment - "One has control right now and leans nationalist." i honestly see it as a joke to say the elite are interested in nationalism.. that is the kind of cheap talk that buys voters, but i don't believe everyone is fooled by this cheap trickery... if trump or any american was truly nationalist they would be moving in a very different direction... i agree one big concern is deindustrialization of the usa and many western countries - offshoring to china all of this for profit of course, and thinking you can get the horse back in the barn when the leaders could give a rats ass about any of this and this applies equally to trump or biden or anyone who is selling a load of b.s. on nationalism... i just don't share your view! thanks regardless...

Posted by: james | Jun 11 2020 20:38 utc | 136

It occurred to me shortly after the murder of George Floyd that the reason he was killed was to protect a local-area counterfeiting operation.

You will recall that very shortly after arriving at the scene of the alleged crime, the police tried to float the idea that the shopkeeper had accused Floyd of “forging a check.”

But the shopkeeper had not called in a report about “forging a check,” he had reported an alleged attempt to pass a counterfeit $20 bill.

The cops, having failed in their attempt to shift public attention to a supposed “forged check,” knew that, if the supposed counterfeit bill had in fact been tendered by Mr. Floyd, then Mr. Floyd would no doubt have either known the producers of the bill, or if he had not known them, might very well remember where he had gotten it, and/or from whom he had gotten it.

It seems to me to be more logical than any other theories so far advanced, that the cops killed Mr. Floyd to prevent him from revealing anything that might expose, or help to expose a local area counterfeiting operation, an operation that had so far been enjoying police protection in exchange for payoffs.

Because Derek Chauvin was a police training officer, and the three cops with him that day were new-on-the-job trainees and thus members of a Chauvin-led team, it's more than conceivable that all four of them would have been involved, together, in any such crime protection enterprise, and if so, that all four of them were in jeopardy of losing their jobs, and of losing their freedom as well.

And that, it seems to me, is why Mr. Floyd had to die.

Posted by: AntiSpin | Jun 11 2020 21:19 utc | 137

@Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 11 2020 18:14 utc | 118

Went to view your site, and Yachats OR on google maps. Looks like a totally wonderful place, but what about that huge (~2-3 sq mile?) clearcut just east of town limits? How do townspeople feel about it? Looks like the timbering operations scoured the Salmon Creek drainage pretty hard. Who owns that land? Hope OR has tough remediation measures that will be taking place and it regenerates quickly.

I've only toured the Pacific NW a couple of times, and that was back in the 1990's, but the big clearcuts on steep terrain I saw then really stuck in my memory. I recall seeing cuts that went for miles on Vancouver Island, with signs up saying they were cut in 1948, where by late '90's trees growing back were still only ~15 ft tall.

Posted by: gm | Jun 11 2020 21:55 utc | 138

AntiSpin @137--

That's a very plausible hypothesis. I'd mused about the absence of a Secret Service team since its that bunch charged with protecting the validity of the nation's currency. Local police never do briefings or workshops educating business operators about how to spot fake cash cause the SS does. The hardest component to match is the paper, but with 3-D printers....

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 11 2020 22:13 utc | 139

After checking out several analyses of the Floyd video, there certainly does seem to be something odd about quite a few things in and surrounding the incident. I wont bother to list them. Here in the USA it appears that the color revolution formula is being applied "liberally". It's funny in a dark way how citizens express outrage at the notion of militarized policing, nation guard, and the use of overwhelming force. Yet that is what the USA exports and has done so for decades. A darker aspect thinks it's brutal poetic justice that the sabotution formula has been released upon this nation and that we may reap it's fruits. But it appears that we are to be held hostage by forces other than that of the military. I fully expect Maidan snipers to be unleashed. Perhaps the 6 block zone on capitol hill in Seattle might be a good place to start?

@Richard Steven Hack: Back in the day circa 2003 I used to go to a site that began as a dissemination point for military intel by one Ramjaz, it was called I seem to remember someone of your name would comment there alot.

In regard to the SJW warriors in Seattle I leave you with this clip:

Posted by: Chevrus | Jun 11 2020 22:34 utc | 140

Posted by: AntiSpin | Jun 11 2020 21:19 utc | 137

Now that's an interesting theory. It would be interesting to see if there is any follow up to determine its merits or lack thereof. I will note that if what I read is correct, the reason the store clerk identified the note as counterfeit was that the ink was still dripping! And Floyd was allegedly very much under the influence of some intoxicant that has yet to be made public (I think?). So it doesn't look like it was the work of a "professional" funny money operation!

But after witnessing police corruption myself and reading the "Confessions of a Bastard Cop" posted by another reader in this thread, I certainly wouldn't dismiss it off-hand. I mean, someone has to be making this counterfeit money right?!

Posted by: _K_C_ | Jun 11 2020 22:40 utc | 141

Posted by: Chevrus | Jun 11 2020 22:34 utc | 138

LOL! I have two Camacho for President shirts, one from 2012 and the other for 2020. Mike Judge was certainly prescient and I've told many friends after the election of Donald J. Trump that we'll have a Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho for president sooner rather than later!

Posted by: _K_C_ | Jun 11 2020 22:43 utc | 142

Yeah right? I mean fhaak, if Ronnie can be a demented figure head actor and Dubya can sneak in as the runt of the Bush crime family litter, anything goes...
Plus executives that dont do as they are expected to get shot in the head, so there is that....
I think Judge knew exactly what he was writing and with full and uncomfortable knowledge that it was all coming into effect. Turns out he was spot on.
I think I'll put on my eating mask and head on down to ButtFuckers for a burger!

Posted by: Chevrus | Jun 11 2020 22:53 utc | 143

re AntiSpin | Jun 11 2020 21:19 utc | 137
Well it is likely something like that which doesn't diminish the horror of Mr Floyd's premeditated murder at all. Those bent coppers knocked him in public because they could & wanted to send a message to anyone else about what could happen if the forgers were caused any trouble.
The way Mr Floyd was murdered reminds me of a method popular in prisons in Aotearoa, Oz & england where a shivving or a bashing causes too much blowback. The victim is held down then towels are stretched tight across the chest and solar plexus to prevent breathing. Broom or mop handles used to provide a fulcrum to pull the towels tight. There are very few marks or bruises as the towels apply the pressure across a wide surface area, so the give-up is usually deemed to have died of a heart attack just as the first coroner's report had claimed what happened to Mr Floyd. The slug who held Mr Floyd's neck down was holding him in place, the pressure applied by the other two is more likely to have caused the fatality.
Whatever, it was a jointly planned & executed murder & all need to go down for it.

Posted by: A User | Jun 11 2020 22:57 utc | 144

I wonder if many amerikans have made the connection between Pompous' attempt to halt investigation into amerikan war-crimes in Afghanistan and the cover up tactics used at home to prevent police from being punished for their crimes.

The two situations are identical, except while it is usually claimed that the excesses of empire will eventually brought home to the seat of the empire, in this case since amerika has been committing these crimes at home for more than 300 years, it is likely the germination occurred 'at home' first.

Of course the unhealthy habit of recruiting police from the ranks of former killers of non-amerikan unwhites, it seems amerika has created an horrific feedback loop of rape, murder and mayhem.
If the dems who appear to have turned BLM into their satrap as a major campaign vehicle are successful in November, it is guaranteed that the one single action most likely to prevent cops from killing citizens will not be implemented.
That is to insist that police forces stop recruiting from among ex-military. They won't put a stop to the rort where the military write off procurement scams by gifting billion dollars of unnecessary but nevertheless bought & paid for military equipment to police either.
Sure they will talk the talk but when it gets down to passing law, they will leave in however many loopholes of whatever size that the lobbyists tell them to.

Posted by: A User | Jun 11 2020 23:18 utc | 145

(NOTE: two outstanding books on the subject:

Police Interrogation and American Justice
Richard A. Leo
(available at
or download a PDF here --

-- and –

Shielded from Justice
Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

Compiled by Human Rights Watch
Read and/or download here –

Posted by: AntiSpin | Jun 11 2020 23:58 utc | 146

AntiSpin @ 137, _K_C_ @ 139:

I have seen online news reports that state that George Floyd used to be a bouncer (before the COVID-19 pandemic lockdown cost him his job) at either (Conga Latina Bistro?) or El Nuevo Rodeo nightclub where Derek Chauvin also worked as off-duty outside security.

Both men could have known each other, there were occasions when their shifts coincided.

I have also seen reports that one of the three police officers who have been arraigned with Derek Chauvin is his (soon to be ex) brother-in-law and that this police officer and his sister have a Laotian Hmong refugee background. There are other reports though that say Tou Thao and Kellie Chauvin are not related at all.

According to who or what you read, George Floyd seems to have packed a lot into his life. In the 1990s / early 2000s he was rapper Big Floyd, associated with the Houston hiphop scene and in particular with DJ Screw and his Screwed Up Click collective. After DJ Screw's death in 2000 from a drug overdose, members of his collective seem to have taken very different paths in life. Big Floyd seems to have been a porn star at some point in his life and was also involved in two armed robberies, one of which led to a 5-year prison term. After leaving prison, he moved to Minneapolis in 2014 in an effort to reform his life. He also worked as a truck driver and did community work.

Posted by: Jen | Jun 12 2020 3:34 utc | 147

AntiSpin @ 137, _K_C_ @ 139:

"I have seen online news reports that state that George Floyd used to be a bouncer (before the COVID-19 pandemic lockdown cost him his job) at either (Conga Latina Bistro?) or El Nuevo Rodeo nightclub where Derek Chauvin also worked as off-duty outside security ..."

Shit, that should have read:

"I have seen online news reports that state that George Floyd used to be a bouncer (before the COVID-19 pandemic lockdown cost him his job) at either Big Conga Latina (Conga Latina Bistro?) or El Nuevo Rodeo nightclub where Derek Chauvin also worked as off-duty outside security ..."

My apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Posted by: Jen | Jun 12 2020 3:37 utc | 148

regardless if the civil war was fought over state/federal rights or slavery kind of muddies the water. even if they were fighting over slavery, it wasn't because of some heroic ideals nor did state/federal rights burst after california was given free reigns to choose. all i really care about is when are they going to trash Albert Pike's bitch ass statue? they probably worship this fkn loser.

Posted by: jason | Jun 12 2020 7:18 utc | 149

"Turkey is trying to deliver weapons to Libya by air, cargo planes were intercepted
Well according to a piece in bulgarian military dated June 12, that is what is happening. The article goes on:

"A Libyan military source told RT Arabic on Thursday that a Turkish cargo plane was intercepted along the coast of Misrata and forced to return home, learned

The Egyptian and Libyan media had reported that 3 Turkish cargo planes were heading towards the western region of Libya when they were spotted by the Libyan National Army (LNA)."

Perhaps some closet imperialist is 'protecting their interests in Libya'

Posted by: A User | Jun 12 2020 9:04 utc | 150

Kennedy death a conspiracy

"organized crime" was developed by the police and their politico allies as further means of social control and to augment their salaries. -CIA--being the most formidable criminal organization on the karlof1 @ 22 <= a truth confirmed by experience. and it is because as Karol1 @ 44 says the goal of self-government still exists <=in-spite of organized crime and its police and military.. and

This [cops are criminals] evidence alone is sufficient to warrant a major judicial inquiry in some rational form. I saw one video from Canada as to police methodically wandered around a public park gathering rocks and piling them on a cairn on the roadside in advance of a passing demonstration against police violence. by: uncle tungsten |@ 61 <= the major judiciary suppports the "malign instruction set within policing of the criminal police..

Bevin @ 45 Movement” politics is how the people flex their power, while electoral politics under a corporate duopoly system is the domain of the moneyed classes.bevin @ 45 < thanks movement politics forced the constitution into existence, the movement was getting too close to the upper class money chests and landed estates granted to them by foreign kings and queens..

The public drooling for a better world remains incessant and yet entirely frustrated - just like a dog. uncle Tungsten at 61 <= but the public d\n\h access to the propaganda infra structure.. and any attempt that results in groups moving toward that incessange drool is meet by monopoly powers coercing governments to write laws, infiltrate groups and find ways to destroy their purpose; generally incessant never allowed to mature.

A coercive power will always eventually emerge Activitist Potato @ 63.. <= coercive power arises because the governed have no way to track the activities of the governors, no way to deny the governors, and no way to prosecute the governors for their secret and public wrong doings. Why is this so <=because of state secrets.. When the new governments come into being, the new actors conduct their business and the business of the government in secret. so the coercive forces can quickly exploit the weak in the new government.

There must be a way for John q public to charge and prosecute in a court independent of the nation state system authority. The international criminal court is still responsible to, and dependant on the nation state governing system, so it cannot be that solution. Suggest again s human rights court is needed that is supported by the governed and human rights law making group that is independent of the nation state government systems of laws..

But we must ask why is it that a coercive power always emerges? The answer is because they can do it in secrecy, the police are part of the secrecy.. everyone should have access to police data. no matter what, nothing should be kept from the public in a democracy. I think that is the biggest reason of all that no one has yet been successful with a democracy.. the PTB refuse to allow their dirty linen to be landered by the eyes of the governed.

Odd that there are numerous wars underway right in the path of that belt and road version of a better world order. All USA wars too. by: uncle tungsten @ 72

the Chinese c\n\b allowed to develop their own standards into global standards.occupatio @ 89.. < why not? The USA has prevented America from participating in the technology war, and copyright and patent monopolies are not often honored by China, so what did the corporate powers in charge of the USA expect? Those with the knowledge about propaganda will always set the standards.

humanitarian nightmare unfolds--particularly against India's lower castes--with nary a peep of "human rights" protest from its Anglo-American allies. Jun @ 73 <=the nation state system is just, a good ole crook fraternity.

"The only good elite is a dead elite." 'Cause no matter what else you do, leaving these clowns alive is simply giving them the chance to mess up the works again. That's human history. by: Richard Steven Hack @ 90
<= Well how about discussing the manner by which you would dispose of the elite? My solution is to force on them to remove patent and copyright monopoly power.. .. what is your solution.

"Those who make revolution half-way only dig their own graves." by: Vintage Red @ 94 <=but revolution can be conducted without use of force, merely remove patent and copyright monopoly power from the law books and constitutions and that makes the action into a revolt.. against corporate monopoly power.. investigate ways to make that happen..

Jack Rabbit @ 110 I might agree =>greed and hierarchy are components within human nature that emotion controls, and it is that emotion that is amplified by propaganda and maintained by institutions everyone stands with hat over Breast for the Star Spangled Banner.

Posted by: snake | Jun 12 2020 9:13 utc | 151

User@44, that was chilling, saw this on a TV show? Peace.

"The way Mr Floyd was murdered reminds me of a method popular in prisons in Aotearoa, Oz & england where a shivving or a bashing causes too much blowback. The victim is held down then towels are stretched tight across the chest and solar plexus to prevent breathing. Broom or mop handles used to provide a fulcrum to pull the towels tight. There are very few marks or bruises as the towels apply the pressure across a wide surface area, so the give-up is usually deemed to have died of a heart attack just as the first coroner's report had claimed what happened to Mr Floyd. The slug who held Mr Floyd's neck down was holding him in place, the pressure applied by the other two is more likely to have caused the fatality. Whatever, it was a jointly planned & executed murder & all need to go down for it. - Posted by: A User | Jun 11 2020 22:57 utc | 144"

Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Jun 12 2020 12:57 utc | 152

more on Venezuela naming names defuses propaganda.. Is not the nation state <=a name for an organizational structure .. instead its that news commentators, media providers, and historians refuse to reveal by name the persons or corporate monopolies operating both behind the scenes and by and through paid servants. Failure to identify the people involved to the event allows to hid these people from view, using the device of attribution. wherein the blame is attributed to a nation state but the actions where those of private interest or joint private state interest. Nations don't go to war, they have no weapons, no warriors, no nothing. they are virtual beings with a name. Unless the elite need something they are unable to obtain by negotiation or purchase or some they see weak enough to allow a few military action to break a few knees, so that the desired goodie can easily be taken for nothing.

Posted by: snake | Jun 12 2020 14:38 utc | 153


Would-be führer Trump steps up coup plotting - 12 June 2020

a highlight from article:


Eleven states contributed 3,900 National Guard troops, including not only nearby Maryland and New Jersey, but more distant states like South Carolina, Florida, Mississippi, Tennessee, Ohio, Indiana, Missouri and even Utah and Idaho. Ten of the eleven states have Republican governors. At the Pentagon’s insistence, the National Guard troops stacked their weapons and ammunition at a local armory and went on patrols unarmed in order to avoid a repetition of the Kent State massacre 50 years ago, when National Guard troops opened fire on antiwar student protesters, killing four.

Posted by: Kim Sky | Jun 12 2020 15:12 utc | 154

@ Posted by: snake | Jun 12 2020 9:13 utc | 151

No. Revolutions are always traumatic and violent. That's why they're very rare even by historic standards.

The USSR was able to dissolve peacefully their financial system - in fact, it occurred almost naturally - but only after the Revolution was consolidated, not before. The extermination of the petite-bourgeoisie (dekulakization) was more messy, but it was achieved with a mix of expropriation and literal extermination, in the 1930s - the episode which catapulted Molotov to de facto second most powerful man in the USSR by the end of that decade.

Posted by: vk | Jun 12 2020 15:19 utc | 155

Trump has insisted that masks not be worn at the upcoming rallies and that social distancing not be required and in fact discouraged. On the other hand, if you happen to contract COVID-19 at one of these rallies, he's protected himself legally meaning he acknowledges that not wearing a mask and not social distancing increases the chances you will contract COVID-19. He is a criminal. He is a murdering psychopath. The world at large since the Dems can't and won't do it, needs to have him forcibly removed before he destroys not only America entirely but also the world. He and the cabal that is using him as a foil need to be arrested and imprisoned in The Hague until their trial before the ICC.

Trump Makes Supporters Sign Liability Waiver in Case They Get Coronavirus at His Campaign Rally

Posted by: | Jun 12 2020 15:28 utc | 156

Pepe Escobar's essay today updates us on the progress toward Eurasian Integration. He confirms my thoughts as the next round of SCO and BRICS Summits loom closer. I left the following comment for him on his FB:

"Just finished your essay, and it's as anticipated based on your previous reporting. I'm reminded of two tales which together describe a great deal: The Tortoise and the Hare; and the Ant and the Grasshopper. The Hare has spent itself seeking immediate gratification and has burnt itself out in the process while the tortoise slowly continues with its dogged determination to make things right and proper for long term resilience. The latter parable is well illustrated by Disney of all firms in its film "A Bug's Life"--the aggressive, abusive Grasshopper Nation, while capable of inflicting great damage and chaos, is ultimately dependent on Ants everywhere for their wellbeing. What's reflected are the fundamental differences between collectivist societies/cultures and those proclaiming themselves individualistic. IMO, it'll take time but Northern European nations will eventually join the overall collective EAEU family because despite their Viking heritage, they are actually collectivists. Humanity's future success on Earth will depend on its ability to become collectively resilient--a term that's anathema to those determined to remain Individualistic."

The same theme is playing itself out within the Outlaw US Empire as individualists seek to reopen businesses too soon versus collectivists who warn against the further harm that will cause--and is already: For example, Arizona prior to unleashing its masses had a rolling average of 200 new cases daily, which has now exploded to 1,400 cases daily. And as noted above, Trump knows he's endangering public health by resuming his campaign. That piece of evidence combined with that compiled proving his Do Nothing Policy ought to be more than enough to draft new articles of impeachment for Treason, and not just for Trump, but for Pence, Pompeo, and other cabinet officers who agreed.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 12 2020 16:44 utc | 157

"..Arizona prior to unleashing its masses had a rolling average of 200 new cases daily, which has now exploded to 1,400 cases daily.

The inevitable consequence of which will include great suffering and a large number of deaths.
There is an Aztec quality about this: the ritual and public torture and killing of a part of the population in order to placate the god of Capitalism.
The major difference being that the leasers of the Aztecs, who demanded bloody and public sacrifices were not elected, and re-elected, regularly to pronounce a collective consent on the gratuitous and cruel shedding of blood.

Posted by: bevin | Jun 12 2020 16:54 utc | 158

bevin @158--

Thanks for your reply! One of our local companies, Pacific Seafood, imported about 100 workers from Arizona without any screening or quarantine prior to having them begin duties at their facilities within our county and elsewhere within Oregon. Now their facilities at Astoria and Newport are closed with almost 100% of the imported workers having infected their fellow workers. Our county cases went from 15 a week ago to 150 as of this past Monday. To our great misfortune, it appears Pacific Seafood will suffer no fines or other legal consequences for its actions--and its medical expenses will likely be covered by the state, not the company! The primary result is our county won't be allowed to go to the phase two level established by the state to further reopen our tourist-based economy, which is great from my POV as our county had done an excellent job of being mindful of our responsibility to everyone else--the essence of Collectivism. In stark contrast, those coming here from outside display no such mindfulness which is generating growing antipathy as infections of workers at grocers--who had zero for 3 months--has suddenly increased to five in the space of ten days.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 12 2020 17:35 utc | 159

Pepe Escobar also has an article at Strategic Culture about Seattle's Capital Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ), about which good reporting is hard to find. There's far too much to excerpt, as this is perhaps the most radically-oriented piece of writing I've seen from Pepe. He reveals a lot that most of us won't know about, which for me as an historian is humbling as I ought to know but don't! How CHAZ evolves deserves close watching. It does have an opportunity to be replicated but only in Blue city's, but Pepe thinks that unlikely--unless....

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 12 2020 18:42 utc | 160

Here is a new (june 8) very interesting and detailed, though at points technically challenging, 2 hr YT interview of Yuri Deigin by a skillful, scientifically trained (molecular biology/wildlife biologist) interviewer named Brett Weinstein.

"Did Covid-19 leak From a Lab?"

Yuri Deigin wrote a widely discussed article a couple of months ago:

"Lab-Made? SARS-CoV-2 Genealogy Through the Lens of Gain-of-Function Research"


Broad ranging interview; touches upon many facets surrounding CV properties and background inluding:

- New info Re: Collection/ID of bat-CV type RaTG13 samples by Zheng-Li Shi (" the Bat Lady") in 2013. The local authorities from Yunnan province (~2000 km southwest from Wuhan) reported/asked for scientific/medical help after a group of mineworkers at a local mine (not a natural cave) came down with an pneumonia of unknown origin in 2012. Several of the miners eventually died. Zheng-Li Shi and associates responded and collected samples from the mine, the miners, and the species of horsehoe bat (Rhinolophus affinis) residing/hibernating inside the mine at the time.

- Discussion about the roles and activities of Peter Daszak of Ecohealth Alliance, who has distributed "dozens of millions of dollar in NIH and DoD funding" with collaborates including Zheng-Li Shi.

Lots more very interesting new information from Yuri D., a modest-seeming young intelligent Russian guy who comes across as being very credible and sincere.

Posted by: gm | Jun 12 2020 18:59 utc | 161

Update China paths to a working vaccine. Zhong Nanshan a Chinese pulmonologist and well-respected scientist earned international fame for managing the SARS outbreak. An article from Globe Mail published May 12, 2020, Canadian involvement. Please read 456 comments below after the excellent article laced with racists and biases against China as if She is too dumb and needs the West and Canada helps.. Thanks

National Research Council strikes deal with China to develop COVID-19

"Vaccine Ad5-nCoV is backed by Tianjin-based CanSino Biologics Inc., seen here on Nov. 20, 2018, and the Institute of Biotechnology of the Academy of Military Medical Sciences...."

Posted by: JC | Jun 12 2020 21:17 utc | 162

karlof1 | Jun 12 2020 @ 160

Pepe's assertion:

To solve the Black Lives Matter question, one must, once again, follow the money.

Black Lives Matter profited in 2016 from a humongous $100 million grant from the Ford Foundation and other philanthropic capitalism stalwarts such as JPMorgan Chase and the Kellogg Foundation.

A closer look at the above assertion:

Ford Foundation:

Why black lives matter to philanthropy


By partnering with Borealis Philanthropy, Movement Strategy Center, and Benedict Consulting to found the Black-Led Movement Fund, Ford has made six-year investments in the organizations and networks that compose the Movement for Black Lives. We also seek to complement the important work of philanthropic allies such as the Hill-Snowden Foundation, Solidaire, the NoVo Foundation, the Association of Black Foundation Executives, the Neighborhood Funders Group–Funders for Justice, Anonymous Donors, and many more. As we continue to engage with and learn from the movement, we’re eager to deepen and expand this community of social justice funders. We want to nurture bold experiments and help the movement build the solid infrastructure that will enable it to flourish. As we do so, we believe it’s essential that our funding not dictate or distort the work underway.

We’ll provide long-term support to the Movement for Black Lives, so that these visionary leaders and organizations can continue to cultivate and maintain a movement of young black women and men who are pushing through established boundaries as they seek to realize the promise of equality and justice for all. That is what democracy needs to function—and it’s what the Movement for Black Lives is doing.

Borealis Philanthropy

Black-Led Movement Fund


The Movement for Black Lives, born out of the uprising in Ferguson, MO, has become a powerful, dynamic constellation of leaders and groups that have come together to tackle a variety of interconnected problems. The individuals of this movement are young, Black, queer, trans, feminist, immigrant, and undocumented leaders who are embracing grassroots organizing as a core strategy to educate and mobilize people to address state violence and injustice in Black communities.

For generations, Black-led social justice institutions have been under-resourced and their leaders have not received adequate support. As a new generation of leaders shapes the conversation about race, criminalization, state and gender violence in the United States, the Black-led Movement Fund (BLMF) aims to transform this scenario by supporting intersectional, Black-led organizing and their leaders as they build and activate bases of power in local communities.

Meet the New Grantees of the Black-Led Movement Fund


The Black-Led Movement Fund (BLMF) at Borealis Philanthropy is excited to announce it has awarded $915,000 in grants to 16 new grantees advancing Black liberation across the country, in addition to the Groundswell Fund’s Black Trans Fund in its inaugural year.

Launched in 2016, the BLMF is a donor collaborative that invests in the ecosystem of the Movement for Black Lives (M4BL) by resourcing the powerful local organizations that anchor this movement infrastructure. Collectively, these organizations shape policy agendas for Black communities, create alternatives to institutions that have been harmful to Black people, and advance Black community power to build the liberatory future we all need.

The Fund’s grantmaking is guided by priorities set in alignment with the M4BL. Organizations receiving BLMF support center the leadership of Black women, girls, femmes, queer, and trans people, apply a Black, queer, and gender justice lens to their work, are focused on power-building in the South and Midwest, and play a core role in anchoring the M4BL ecosystem.

Posted by: pogohere | Jun 13 2020 7:30 utc | 163

2020 #106

Thank you for your reference to the Australian High Court decision regarding correspondence between the governor general and his queen.

It matters a lot.

There are other correspondences between states governors and the respective premiers that are vitally necessary to be wrested into the public domain. Such correspondence should never be enclosed behind fake UK style secret doors. They are the very property of any thriving democracy and its people.

I gather that there will be strenuous efforts to extend that ruling into state affairs in Australia.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 13 2020 8:33 utc | 164

karlof1 #159

THAT was an insane report karlof1. I imagine that same scenario enacted in many places in USA then repeated time and time again over the coming months and I am certain that you are all in a pre-revolutionary condition. I trust you fare well because I fear the paramilitary gangs will let loose yet again.

The chaotic stage of capitalism in the USA never ceases to amaze. I assume the same scenario will play out in UK - its a Steve Bannon thing.

And thanks heaps for that Pepe Escobar link on Seattle. Good to see his incisive critique of this fiasco.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 13 2020 9:51 utc | 165

An interesting must read. Apparently, genuine:

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Jun 13 2020 12:59 utc | 166

Russia to Produce COVID-19 Vaccine in September

Posted by: arby | Jun 13 2020 16:31 utc | 167

pogohere @163--

Thanks for doing some of the unpacking required of Pepe's very dense article. The main point being BLM isn't anywhere near being the radical-leftist outfit Trump and others are trying hard to affix that label. It almost has an USAID-NED type feeling.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 13 2020 23:09 utc | 168

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