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June 10, 2020
Open Thread 2020-46
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Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 11 2020 0:13 utc | 47 Posted by: LuBa | Jun 11 2020 10:14 utc | 101 Posted by: Mao | Jun 11 2020 10:10 utc | 100 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 11 2020 10:55 utc | 102 Sorry, my post was in response to Down South at 99… Apologies. Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 11 2020 10:56 utc | 103 Did the Anglo-Saxon era really exist? Expert claims Germans never ‘invaded’ Britain and the Romans continued to influence English language, religion and culture long after the fall of the Empire in 410AD Posted by: Mao | Jun 11 2020 10:56 utc | 104 Posted by: LuBa | Jun 11 2020 10:14 utc | 101 Unfortunately the zionist fortress is taking place since 1948 Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 11 2020 10:58 utc | 105 The Australian High Court has ruled that correspondence between the Queen and the Governor-General of Australia, her viceroy in the former British colony, is no longer “personal” and the property of Buckingham Palace. Why does this matter? Posted by: 2020 | Jun 11 2020 11:02 utc | 106 Chicago mayor Richard Daley’s famous quote is even more applicable than it was 50 years ago: Posted by: Trailer Trash | Jun 11 2020 16:40 utc | 107 Chinese doctors destroy Harvard’s ridiculous “parking lot” theory:
First of all, Bannon makes it clear he isn’t fighting for some kind of white Christian supremacy (which is the far-right narrative). He’s literally fighting against socialism. It’s not that he’s offended with the 21st Century being the Asian Century, but that he doesn’t accept and will fight to the death to keep Asia a capitalist region. Posted by: Trailer Trash | Jun 11 2020 16:40 utc | 107 Posted by: JC | Jun 11 2020 17:07 utc | 109 Richard Steven Hack @ Jun11 4:43 # 80
!! Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 11 2020 17:09 utc | 110 “United States Sanctions International Criminal Court Officials” Posted by: arby | Jun 11 2020 17:27 utc | 112 If the government won’t remove them, they will be removed by other means. Lang must surely be apoplectic about this. Perhaps he and his white supremacist militia he leads can protect the remaining monuments from being torn down and/or defiled. Then we can get the civil war on for real and Lang can he America’s Hafter/Hifter/Hefter. A dream come true for him. Posted by: 450.org | Jun 11 2020 17:29 utc | 113 Protesters can make a real statement if they flood one of Trump’s rallies and shut it down. Protesters should be storming the Capitol Building in Georgia and demanding the resignation of Brian Kemp for illegal voter suppression. The right to vote is as important as police brutality. Posted by: 450.org | Jun 11 2020 17:41 utc | 114 Imagining it is possible to cheat death is pure psychosis. Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 11 2020 18:01 utc | 115 Activist Potato @63– Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 11 2020 18:09 utc | 116 following up my post @13 What is a vassal state?
Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Jun 11 2020 18:12 utc | 117 I didn’t link to my VK Space @114 because Typepad immediately sends any item with VK in the url directly to moderation. So, this comment will eventuall show up soon after 114 numerically and even with the correct time stamp, but it will be delayed for hours until b frees it. The link’s attached to my pen name, karlof1. https://thegrayzone.com/2020/06/10/wikipedia-formally-censors-the-grayzone-as-regime-change-advocates-monopolize-editing/ Posted by: Ashino | Jun 11 2020 18:24 utc | 119 The Last American Vagabond Posted by: Ashino | Jun 11 2020 18:30 utc | 120 @87 occupatio Posted by: Nemesiscalling | Jun 11 2020 18:33 utc | 121 c’mon nemesis… and all this chinese-amercian – hong- kong bullshite or trump for that matter isn’t funded by the same?? Posted by: james | Jun 11 2020 18:43 utc | 122 @114 I would humbly suggest there may be other reasons for stocks to go up other than Fed activity and stock buybacks by corporations. Posted by: dh | Jun 11 2020 18:45 utc | 123 Max and Stacy suggested this rather lengthy article, “Covid has exposed America as a failed state.” It’s written from the British POV and gets a number of important points wrong, but it also makes a few good points, this being perhaps the most important: Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 11 2020 18:51 utc | 124 I see that b has freed my comment containing the link to my VK Space quite quickly and is now @118. Thanks b! Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 11 2020 18:53 utc | 125 Posted by: 450.org | Jun 10 2020 18:17 utc | 8 Posted by: _K_C_ | Jun 11 2020 18:57 utc | 126 @ Posted by: Nemesiscalling | Jun 11 2020 18:33 utc | 121 @122 james Posted by: Nemesiscalling | Jun 11 2020 19:09 utc | 128 @128 addendum Posted by: Nemesiscalling | Jun 11 2020 19:15 utc | 129 @ Posted by: Nemesiscalling | Jun 11 2020 19:15 utc | 129 Trump is not a nationalist or a populist. He pretends to be one and has a few in his cabinet who also happen to be white supremacists (hence one of his few actually nationalist policies – the war on immigrants), but vk | Jun 11 2020 19:04 utc | 127 is correct. Trump is not bringing back manufacturing jobs or even meaningful jobs with benefits that one might call a career. It’s a continuation, in some cases on steroids, of the neoliberal/neocon policies of the past several presidents and the final stages of the financialization of everything in which a relative few oligarchs buy up the final remaining assets and assume complete control over the government. Posted by: _K_C_ | Jun 11 2020 19:20 utc | 131 usa. a piece by a semi-repentant cop. posted as it illustrates not only the us-vs-them tribal mentality but also the internal mechanisms of punishment, coercion, hazing, competition, etc. Posted by: Noirette | Jun 11 2020 19:22 utc | 132 COV19 Posted by: Noirette | Jun 11 2020 19:30 utc | 133 >> No, Wall Street and the globalists will simply pick the next up Posted by: oglalla | Jun 11 2020 19:52 utc | 134 I find it hilarious that India was getting all excited about an industrial investment windfall resulting from that investment being pulled from China due to America’s bio attack on that country. They thought for sure this would be their big opportunity to bootstrap out of the Dark Ages. They kept their economy open for as long as possible to make themselves as attractive as possible to the planet’s biggest oligarchs, but that investment windfall never came. I rather doubt any of those oligarchs ever even considered India in the first place, but I guess it is obligatory that everyone in the capitalist world has to doll themselves up when it looks like the rich guy might have dumped his favorite squeeze in the hopes of catching his eye (and thus some of his money). Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 11 2020 20:14 utc | 135 @ 128 nemesis calling… thanks for your response.. we see it differently i mostly all i can say… i continue to believe the usa is on a downhill trajectory and no amount of talk is going to change this… your comment – “One has control right now and leans nationalist.” i honestly see it as a joke to say the elite are interested in nationalism.. that is the kind of cheap talk that buys voters, but i don’t believe everyone is fooled by this cheap trickery… if trump or any american was truly nationalist they would be moving in a very different direction… i agree one big concern is deindustrialization of the usa and many western countries – offshoring to china all of this for profit of course, and thinking you can get the horse back in the barn when the leaders could give a rats ass about any of this and this applies equally to trump or biden or anyone who is selling a load of b.s. on nationalism… i just don’t share your view! thanks regardless… Posted by: james | Jun 11 2020 20:38 utc | 136 It occurred to me shortly after the murder of George Floyd that the reason he was killed was to protect a local-area counterfeiting operation. Posted by: AntiSpin | Jun 11 2020 21:19 utc | 137 @Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 11 2020 18:14 utc | 118 Posted by: gm | Jun 11 2020 21:55 utc | 138 AntiSpin @137– After checking out several analyses of the Floyd video, there certainly does seem to be something odd about quite a few things in and surrounding the incident. I wont bother to list them. Here in the USA it appears that the color revolution formula is being applied “liberally”. It’s funny in a dark way how citizens express outrage at the notion of militarized policing, nation guard, and the use of overwhelming force. Yet that is what the USA exports and has done so for decades. A darker aspect thinks it’s brutal poetic justice that the sabotution formula has been released upon this nation and that we may reap it’s fruits. But it appears that we are to be held hostage by forces other than that of the military. I fully expect Maidan snipers to be unleashed. Perhaps the 6 block zone on capitol hill in Seattle might be a good place to start? Posted by: Chevrus | Jun 11 2020 22:34 utc | 140 Posted by: AntiSpin | Jun 11 2020 21:19 utc | 137 Posted by: _K_C_ | Jun 11 2020 22:40 utc | 141 Posted by: Chevrus | Jun 11 2020 22:34 utc | 138 Posted by: _K_C_ | Jun 11 2020 22:43 utc | 142 Yeah right? I mean fhaak, if Ronnie can be a demented figure head actor and Dubya can sneak in as the runt of the Bush crime family litter, anything goes… Posted by: Chevrus | Jun 11 2020 22:53 utc | 143 re AntiSpin | Jun 11 2020 21:19 utc | 137 Posted by: A User | Jun 11 2020 22:57 utc | 144 I wonder if many amerikans have made the connection between Pompous’ attempt to halt investigation into amerikan war-crimes in Afghanistan and the cover up tactics used at home to prevent police from being punished for their crimes. Posted by: A User | Jun 11 2020 23:18 utc | 145 (NOTE: two outstanding books on the subject: Posted by: AntiSpin | Jun 11 2020 23:58 utc | 146 AntiSpin @ 137, _K_C_ @ 139: Posted by: Jen | Jun 12 2020 3:34 utc | 147 AntiSpin @ 137, _K_C_ @ 139: Posted by: Jen | Jun 12 2020 3:37 utc | 148 regardless if the civil war was fought over state/federal rights or slavery kind of muddies the water. even if they were fighting over slavery, it wasn’t because of some heroic ideals nor did state/federal rights burst after california was given free reigns to choose. all i really care about is when are they going to trash Albert Pike’s bitch ass statue? they probably worship this fkn loser. Posted by: jason | Jun 12 2020 7:18 utc | 149 “Turkey is trying to deliver weapons to Libya by air, cargo planes were intercepted
Perhaps some closet imperialist is ‘protecting their interests in Libya’ Posted by: A User | Jun 12 2020 9:04 utc | 150 Kennedy death a conspiracy Posted by: snake | Jun 12 2020 9:13 utc | 151 User@44, that was chilling, saw this on a TV show? Peace.
Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Jun 12 2020 12:57 utc | 152 more on Venezuela naming names defuses propaganda.. Is not the nation state <=a name for an organizational structure .. instead its that news commentators, media providers, and historians refuse to reveal by name the persons or corporate monopolies operating both behind the scenes and by and through paid servants. Failure to identify the people involved to the event allows to hid these people from view, using the device of attribution. wherein the blame is attributed to a nation state but the actions where those of private interest or joint private state interest. Nations don't go to war, they have no weapons, no warriors, no nothing. they are virtual beings with a name. Unless the elite need something they are unable to obtain by negotiation or purchase or some they see weak enough to allow a few military action to break a few knees, so that the desired goodie can easily be taken for nothing. Posted by: snake | Jun 12 2020 14:38 utc | 153 TRUMP CONTINUOUS EFFORTS TO ORCHESTRATE COUP…. Posted by: Kim Sky | Jun 12 2020 15:12 utc | 154 @ Posted by: snake | Jun 12 2020 9:13 utc | 151 Trump has insisted that masks not be worn at the upcoming rallies and that social distancing not be required and in fact discouraged. On the other hand, if you happen to contract COVID-19 at one of these rallies, he’s protected himself legally meaning he acknowledges that not wearing a mask and not social distancing increases the chances you will contract COVID-19. He is a criminal. He is a murdering psychopath. The world at large since the Dems can’t and won’t do it, needs to have him forcibly removed before he destroys not only America entirely but also the world. He and the cabal that is using him as a foil need to be arrested and imprisoned in The Hague until their trial before the ICC. Posted by: 450.org | Jun 12 2020 15:28 utc | 156 Pepe Escobar’s essay today updates us on the progress toward Eurasian Integration. He confirms my thoughts as the next round of SCO and BRICS Summits loom closer. I left the following comment for him on his FB: Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 12 2020 16:44 utc | 157 “..Arizona prior to unleashing its masses had a rolling average of 200 new cases daily, which has now exploded to 1,400 cases daily. Posted by: bevin | Jun 12 2020 16:54 utc | 158 bevin @158– Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 12 2020 17:35 utc | 159 Pepe Escobar also has an article at Strategic Culture about Seattle’s Capital Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ), about which good reporting is hard to find. There’s far too much to excerpt, as this is perhaps the most radically-oriented piece of writing I’ve seen from Pepe. He reveals a lot that most of us won’t know about, which for me as an historian is humbling as I ought to know but don’t! How CHAZ evolves deserves close watching. It does have an opportunity to be replicated but only in Blue city’s, but Pepe thinks that unlikely–unless…. Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 12 2020 18:42 utc | 160 Here is a new (june 8) very interesting and detailed, though at points technically challenging, 2 hr YT interview of Yuri Deigin by a skillful, scientifically trained (molecular biology/wildlife biologist) interviewer named Brett Weinstein. Posted by: gm | Jun 12 2020 18:59 utc | 161 Update China paths to a working vaccine. Zhong Nanshan a Chinese pulmonologist and well-respected scientist earned international fame for managing the SARS outbreak. An article from Globe Mail published May 12, 2020, Canadian involvement. Please read 456 comments below after the excellent article laced with racists and biases against China as if She is too dumb and needs the West and Canada helps.. Thanks Posted by: JC | Jun 12 2020 21:17 utc | 162 karlof1 | Jun 12 2020 @ 160
A closer look at the above assertion:
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Posted by: pogohere | Jun 13 2020 7:30 utc | 163 2020 #106 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 13 2020 8:33 utc | 164 karlof1 #159 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 13 2020 9:51 utc | 165 An interesting must read. Apparently, genuine: Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Jun 13 2020 12:59 utc | 166 pogohere @163– Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 13 2020 23:09 utc | 168 |
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