That’s why you enforce a proper lockdown:
China leads world economic recovery: Analysts are surprised that a Caixin survey of service industries shows clear signs of expansion
David P. Goldman is a big time liberal and a declared nationalist (pro-USA). And even he admits China is recovering fast, towards a quick V-shaped recovery.
A lesson for the American petite-bourgeoisie: you’re not the center of the universe. Next time, listen to the scientists and to your government before throwing your workers to the death row.
A lesson for the Japanese factories in China: next time, think twice before accepting your government’s taxpayer money to relocate to some shithole in SE-Asia. You’re not only hurting the Japanese people, but also your own profit rate.
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UK looks to Asia with a hard eye on China: UK leader Boris Johnson is taking a progressively tougher stance on China that could encumber his ‘global Britain’ gambit in Asia
In a parallel universe where Suez never happened, the tories still feed their illusions of grandeur.
–//–
Xi says China ready to work with Germany, EU to create more global certainty
Humiliating blow to Germany.
The week after Borrell’s virulent declaration, Xi declares the EU (i.e. Germany) is not a geopolitical threat.
I think that, when all this EU experiment is over, historians will look back and determine that Greece’s collapse was the death of Germany’s third (and last) imperial attempt. If the EU was completely integrated at that time, Germany would’ve certainly collapse a la USA 2008. That impelled the Northern 4 (Germany, Finland, Austria and the Netherlands) to immediately stop any progress towards federalization and begin to reverse any already existing initiative in this direction.
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Chinese SMEs seeks opportunities through digital transformation

According to calculation, digitalization can cut 17.2 percent of cost and increase 22.6 percent of revenue for manufacturing enterprises, and the figures stand at 34.2 percent and 33.6 percent in logistics industry, and 7.8 percent and 33.3 percent in retail sector.
However, statistics indicate that only 25 percent of Chinese enterprises have started digital transformation.
A program was recently launched by the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) in cooperation with other government departments, leading enterprises, financial institutions, research institutes, and industrial associations, to provide online services for SMEs to help them be more digitally savvy. An initiative was released at the inauguration ceremony of the program, and over 500 service measures tailored for SMEs were rolled out to help them lower cost, reduce transformation period, and improve the success rate of transformation.

This is the difference between a Marxist State (socialist) and a capitalist State.
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Japan softens re-entry ban that left foreign residents stranded
But, reading Western newspapers, I had the impression only China did that…
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The radical and ever combative Trotskyists are calling the American working class… to defend “democracy in America”!
A call to the working class! Stop Trump’s coup d’état!
You really couldn’t make this up.
The hypothesis that WSWS is infested with CIA/FBI agents – or even that it is an entirely CIA/FBI façade – is growing on me.

Posted by: vk | Jun 4 2020 15:43 utc | 4

OK… more scientists, studies, clinical observations, latest on the latest Big Pharma desperation-study (says something for the effectiveness early-use HCQ)
https://www.medicineuncensored.com/

Posted by: Nancy | Jun 4 2020 15:53 utc | 6

Good piece by Jonathan Latham and Allison Wilson summing up the case for the bug having escaped from a bioweapons lab. Of course everything possible about the Chinese lab is equally possible of a US lab.
https://www.independentsciencenews.org/health/the-case-is-building-that-covid-19-had-a-lab-origin/
Many want this to be the subject of an investigation, but there exists no legitimate authority which could be trusted to do so:
“If the Shi lab has anything to hide, it is not only the Chinese Government that will be reluctant to see an impartial investigation proceed. Much of the work was funded by the US taxpayer, channeled there by Peter Daszak and the EcoHealth Alliance. Virtually every credible international organisation that might in principle carry out such an investigation, the WHO, the US CDC, the FAO, the US NIH, including the Gates Foundation, is either an advisor to, or a partner of, the EcoHealth Alliance. If the Sars-CoV-2 outbreak originated from the bat coronavirus work at the WIV then just about every major institution in the global public health community is implicated.”
Clearly we cannot trust anyone who’s part of or connected with the US government, the Chinese government, or any global “public health” or “philanthropic” entity. They’re all in it up to their necks. All are involved in biowarfare research, at the Wuhan lab and at similar labs around the world.

Posted by: Russ | Jun 4 2020 15:58 utc | 8

James, Sorry! try this one
https://twitter.com/abde49/status/1266127987793170432

Posted by: Mina | Jun 4 2020 16:03 utc | 10

@ Posted by: Russ | Jun 4 2020 15:58 utc | 7
So, an ex-MI6 agent comes out of nowhere to revive this long debunked story and, all of a sudden, the CCP’s credibility is eroded?
You westerners must decide if your governments can be trusted or not. This is getting confusing.
–//–
@ Posted by: Nancy | Jun 4 2020 15:30 utc | 2
If a random German official told you to jump off a cliff, would you do it?
Again: either western governments can be trusted or they can’t. You can’t play Schrodinger with geopolitics.
The Strategic Culture is not a newspaper. They don’t do investigative journalism. They are a publishing journal for analysts and experts, who publish in their areas of expertise. They have room to speculate, but that doesn’t mean they should be taken immediately as a primary source or a scientific peer reviewed journal.

Posted by: vk | Jun 4 2020 16:05 utc | 12

@vk re Nancy’s comment.
Here is the leaked report in German. I don’t know if this is fake or not but here it is
https://www.ichbinanderermeinung.de/Dokument93.pdf

Posted by: DG | Jun 4 2020 16:15 utc | 14

You simply can’t make this shit up. They have no credibility. None. Whatsoever. Rape is bad when it’s not one of their own. Rape is fine when it’s one of their own. When white nationalists protest and ignore the fact there is a pandemic, that’s bad and selfish and inconsiderate but when whites and blacks and people of any and all colors protest and gather in large numbers bumping up against one another for hours on end, it’s not bad and it’s not selfish. Look at the experts chosen to speak about this. Some randomly plucked physicians. All physicians are not created equal. Remember Trump’s physician before he became POTUS — the one who gave him a clean bill of health?
Is It Safe To Protest During A Pandemic? Experts Answer Our Questions

Georges Benjamin, physician: There are many people who feel strongly that racism and police violence has gotten to the point that the risk calculation has changed. And so that they have to at least go out and let the public and the police know that it’s unacceptable. I’m African American, and so to me, the risk of being shot and killed by a police officer may, in some communities, be much higher than the risk of getting Covid-19 and dying.
The public health perspective is all about risk. And I think it’s a false trade-off. I mean, it is true that if you go back out there, we’re going to see spikes of disease. But at the end of the day, we’re still seeing an epidemic of police violence that just doesn’t seem to end.

Posted by: 450.org | Jun 4 2020 16:36 utc | 16

@ Posted by: Russ | Jun 4 2020 15:58 utc | 7
So, an ex-MI6 agent comes out of nowhere to revive this long debunked story and, all of a sudden, the CCP’s credibility is eroded?
–//–
@ Posted by: Nancy | Jun 4 2020 15:30 utc | 2
If a random German official told you to jump off a cliff, would you do it?
Posted by: vk | Jun 4 2020 16:05 utc | 11
Ah, thanks for the tip vk, if you attack both articles they must be very worthwhile. I’ll read them both!

Posted by: BM | Jun 4 2020 16:45 utc | 18

Posted by: 450.org | Jun 4 2020 16:36 utc | 15
Georges Benjamin, physician: “The public health perspective is all about risk. And I think it’s a false trade-off. I mean, it is true that if you go back out there, we’re going to see spikes of disease. But at the end of the day, we’re still seeing an epidemic of police violence that just doesn’t seem to end.”
He’s exactly right (except for being so certain about the spikes of disease). From the first moment it was broached the entire terror-lockdown campaign has been about nothing but value judgements, though it’s part of the government-technocratic religious assault to deny they’re driven by the self-serving value judgements they made and anti-democratically imposed on a psychologically ill population.
All these government officials, media scribblers, NGO cadres, every last one of them would agree with the proposition: “Sometimes it’s necessary to send millions to war and have many thousands die for the sake of…[fill in the blank]”. For all of them the [blank] would include things like freedom, the pursuit of happiness, our human way of life. In theory many would say the same about political protest, the value of being willing to risk oppression, violence and death for the sake of trying to live a human life without oppression.
Yet today and for months now almost all those same persons are saying that we MUST NOT be willing to risk “thousands of lives” in order to live the very things for which we’re supposed to be willing to go to war or to run the risks of protest against a violent state.
That’s yet another proof that the whole thing is a Big Lie.
It’s also proof how much all government officials, everyone in the media, all system NGOs etc. and all other lockdown supporters love war and hate the human way of life. Their credo is, “Any and all risk and sacrifice (of others) for war, no risk allowed at all for the sake of living.”

Posted by: Russ | Jun 4 2020 16:56 utc | 20

@vk … 18
This analysis reports that ”The state has proven itself to be one of the largest fake news producers in the corona crisis.”
I don’t know if that is true. I wouldn’t be surprised if it is.

Posted by: DG | Jun 4 2020 16:59 utc | 22

>since we’re told repeatedly COVID-19 is decimating the black
>community at a much more substantial rate than any other community,
…then it is probably propaganda (with a bit of truth sprinkled on top).

Posted by: Trailer Trash | Jun 4 2020 17:09 utc | 24

OK… is this what has Big Pharm (& Fauci & Gilead & Gates et al) petrified into the panic-driven Surgisphere fiasco? Who needs a vaccine when this virus is easily and effectively treated on contraction..except, perhaps the small % of most vulnerable, who should quarantine etc). (Also, how many people may have died, even by intubation!, by being denied early treatment with HCQ etc..) (The tragedy is that it will vindicate Trump.)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1O6Cls-Oz2ZAgJuyDbnICEGjMvQPEyM-aaXARUomR9Ww/edit
Please, tell me again why egregious (and deliberate?) ‘mistakes’ haven’t been made, from day one?

Posted by: Nancy | Jun 4 2020 17:16 utc | 26

From “The Last Castle” by Jack Vance (1965).
“The contrite waited in the classic posture of expiation – on their knees, heads bowed – and so perished, so they believed, by a process in which the Meks were symbols and human sin the reality. In the end, all were dead: gentlemen, ladies, Phanes in the pavilions, Peasants in the stables. Of those who inhabited Janeil, only the Birds survived, creatures awkward, gauche and raucous, oblivious to pride and faith, more concerned with the wholeness of their hides than the dignity of their castle. As the Meks swarmed down over the parapets, the Birds departed their cotes and, screaming strident insults, flapped east toward Hagedorn, now the last Castle of Earth.”
Speaks for itself, doesn’t it?

Posted by: carl | Jun 4 2020 17:27 utc | 28

Almost two months ago I said we shouldn’t support the push for granting emergency quarantine powers to Western governments because the Western governments are completely corrupt and utterly incompetent whereas Russia and China (whatever your opinions on personal/political freedoms) are much more competent. Look where we are now, the media has forgotten about the Covid pandemic and is now pushing how popular protest and widescale riots are a necessary tool for social justice. A month ago police in the US were arresting people for going for haircuts, now they stand aside as rioters burn down police stations. The systemic corruption of the US is driving it into chaos and eventual breakup

Posted by: Kadath | Jun 4 2020 17:39 utc | 30

The Kentucky Miner Who Scammed Americans by Claiming He Was Hitler and Plotting a ‘Revolt’ With ‘Spaceships’
From 1946-1956, many Americans mailed money to a man alleging he was a still-alive Hitler, plotting a revolution with “invisible spaceships.” He signed his letters “Furrier No. 1.”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-kentucky-miner-who-scammed-americans-by-claiming-he-was-hitler-and-plotting-a-revolt-with-spaceships

Posted by: Mao | Jun 4 2020 17:50 utc | 32

A good article at The Tyee. Ann interview with virologist William Haseltine.
Among much else of interest he suggests that a vaccine will be of little use, that treatment with drugs (and I would add, proper care of the nursing variety) will. That wearing masks should probably be normal behaviour in crowded situations and that ‘herd immunity’ from coronavirus is a nonsense.
In sum he suggests that we organise ourselves, in future, to deal with new viruses on a regular basis.
He doesn’t say it-he might not even agree- but his conclusions lead us to put an end to neo-liberalism, before it puts an end to us, to reorder our social priorities (Trident is bought at the cost of thousands of ICU beds; the Special Forces come at the cost of trained nurses) and, in a word, grow the fuck up.
It is all very simple, and the only reason that, as a species we don’t look after our common interests is that we are too cowardly to rid ourselves of the parasites, feeding off us.
I hope this link works-if it doesn’t search for The Tyee and Andrew Nikiforuk
https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2020/06/03/Vaccine-Will-Not-Erase-Pandemic/?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=040620

Posted by: bevin | Jun 4 2020 17:52 utc | 34

George Orwell
Looking back on the Spanish War
I saw newspaper reports which did not bear any relation to the facts, not even the relationship which is implied in an ordinary lie. I saw great battles reported where there had been no fighting, and complete silence where hundreds of men had been killed. I saw troops who had fought bravely denounced as cowards and traitors, and others who had never seen a shot fired hailed as the heroes of imaginary victories; and I saw newspapers in London retailing these lies and eager intellectuals building emotional superstructures over events that had never happened. I saw, in fact, history being written not in terms of what happened but of what ought to have happened according to various ‘party lines’.
https://orwell.ru/library/essays/Spanish_War/english/esw_1

Posted by: Mao | Jun 4 2020 17:56 utc | 36

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said yesterday that the Trump administration will be releasing a series of announcements against the International Criminal Court (ICC) “in the coming days”, reported The Times of Israel.
“I think that the ICC and the world will see that we are determined to prevent having Americans and our friends and allies in Israel and elsewhere hauled in by this corrupt ICC,” he told a podcast hosted by the right-wing American Enterprise Institute think tank.
“I don’t want to get ahead of the announcements we’re going to make in the coming days but I think you’ll see,” he said.
The ICC in the Hague is currently weighing whether to open separate criminal investigations into the “situation in Afghanistan”, which could see UK and US troops tried for war crimes.
In December, the ICC’s office of the prosecutor concluded a five-year preliminary examination of the “situation in the state of Palestine”, concluding there were reasonable grounds to believe that war crimes have been, or are being, committed in the occupied West Bank.
However, Pompeo has long fought the ICC’s efforts to pursue investigations into cases where Americans or Israelis are involved.
Last month, Pompeo slammed the ICC insisting that it is not qualified to probe possible Israeli crimes against Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip.
Pompeo insisted that Palestine is not a sovereign state, so it is not qualified to file a complaint to the ICC against continuous violations and crimes, saying that the ICC’s possible investigation into Israeli crimes is “illegitimate”.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200602-pompeo-us-to-target-icc-to-stop-war-crime-investigations/

Posted by: Mao | Jun 4 2020 18:01 utc | 38

From a link up-thread
https://www.independentsciencenews.org/health/the-case-is-building-that-covid-19-had-a-lab-origin/
“The most famous such experiment was conducted in the lab of Dutch researcher Ron Fouchier. Fouchier took an avian influenza virus (H5N1) that did not infect ferrets (or other mammals) and serially passaged it in ferrets.”
And now that
https://www.dailysabah.com/life/science/could-minks-be-the-missing-link-in-coronavirus-jump-from-bats-to-humans-the-case-of-dutch-farmers
https://www.wionews.com/world/dutch-to-slaughter-around-10000-mink-after-coronavirus-outbreak-on-farms-303412

Posted by: Mina | Jun 4 2020 18:13 utc | 40

Rania Khalek @RaniaKhalek
Elites from both parties have blamed Russia, China, Iran, even Zimbabwe for the unrest. They blame to avoid responsibility for the brutal and unequal system that murdered George Floyd. How long did they think people would suffer in silence?
[video]
https://twitter.com/RaniaKhalek/status/1268181427633471489

Posted by: Mao | Jun 4 2020 18:16 utc | 42

Zimbabwe summoned the U.S. ambassador in Harare on Monday after a senior White House official said the country was among “foreign adversaries” using the unrest over the death of George Floyd to interfere in U.S. affairs.
Protests demanding justice for Floyd, a black man who died in Minneapolis after a policeman knelt on his neck for nearly nine minutes, have spread across the United States and turned violent.
Robert O’Brien, President Donald Trump’s national security advisor, told ABC news in an interview on Sunday that countries such as Russia, China, Iran and Zimbabwe were adversaries that were using the unrest to stoke tensions in the United States.
Washington has frequently criticised Zimbabwe’s human rights record in the past, including crackdowns on opposition protests.
In a statement, Zimbabwe’s Foreign Minister Sibusiso Moyo said O’Brien’s accusations were “false and deeply damaging to a relationship already complicated due to years of prescriptive megaphone diplomacy and punitive economic sanctions”.
“We take due note of the measures deployed by the U.S. authorities to deal with the challenges currently confronting them. At the same time, we recall the harsh U.S. criticism and condemnation of our own response to multiple instances of illegal, violent civil unrest,” said Moyo.
In a statement in response, Nichols, the U.S. ambassador, said the United States would continue to speak out against injustices at home and abroad.
https://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFKBN23914X-OZATP

Posted by: Mao | Jun 4 2020 18:20 utc | 44

A Sino-American-French joint?
https://www.rt.com/news/490714-mi6-china-lab-coronavirus/

Posted by: Mina | Jun 4 2020 18:24 utc | 46

ColombiaA @24–
Many Empires have risen and fallen, and we’ve witnessed the demise of a few since the end of WW2. One might say that when an Empire is formed, its decay commences based on the internal contradictions developed during its formation. Currently, there are several Empires in that condition.
c @44–
Several months ago I proposed barflies post there own Revolutionary Manifesto as a way to sort out their thinking on the things you mentioned in your comment. I also suggest you do the same and present it here so its merits can be debated.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 4 2020 18:42 utc | 48

Consortium News has published two articles about Russia and its relations with the Outlaw US Empire. The first is a review by Ray McGovern that covers various events going back to the Obama Era that was prompted by this interview of Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov: “‘We Have No Trust, No Confidence Whatsoever’ in America,” and how that arose. The second is excerpted from a new book examining the lack of effect of sanctions upon Russia and references a recent book by University of Birmingham professor Richard Connolly, Russia’s Response to Sanctions: How Western Economic Statecraft is [Positively] Reshaping Political Economy in Russia, the irony of the title being there having the opposite outcome of the initial intentions, thus my corrective addition to the title.
Both articles and their references help keep Russia Watchers in tune with perceptions from both sides. There are a number of points I’m tempted to copy/paste from the Ryabkov interview, but the bit within the title will serve well enough as the entire interview ought to be read. The comment I made to the sanctions article centered on Russia’s lack of a predatory, parasitic financial sector and the resulting health that provides Russia while the Outlaw US Empire suffers from its greatly.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 4 2020 19:13 utc | 50

karlof1 @ 47, indeed this is a far better place to sort out our thinking – and I’m assuming you wouldn’t have seen my response to your response back in the post before last as events were moving quickly. So, here’s the first one, and I’ll bring the second one shortly:
karlof1 @ 180, Antispin @181, thank you for referring me to the Dead Sea Scrolls, and of course at first I took a quick look through Orthodox wiki, (that being my faith), then was pleasantly informed to see a manuscript called “Jubilees” listed there, and apparently dated 160-150 BC. The caves wherein the scrolls were found is approximately one mile west of the Dead Sea. And most of the scrolls seem to be of Old Hebraic texts, I think one in Aramaic. They all seem older from my admittedly quick look than the Christian era, and in fact, the closest Christian writers were mentioned to hold “Jubilees” in high esteem, they being described as ‘early Christian writers’ and listing in wikipedia as Clement, Ignatius and Polycarp, some of whom knew some of the disciples of Christ.
My church uses, by the way, the Septaguint, which is the Greek version of the Old Testament compiled by Alexandrian Jews in the second century BC. Jesus quotes from that version fairly often, and also gives his own translations at times.
You are both welcome to adhere to your sources; I will adhere to mine. I saw no mention of a ‘Christ figure’ but admittedly wiki is not always a complete source of information. In general though, the texts predate the Christian era, and early Christians knew of some of them which had since disappeared from the canon. I will enjoy further exploration – I know there was some controversy about the translations that were being proffered early on, and early Christian history is an area I enjoy exploring, especially the writings of those who knew such as Saint John, who lived a long life. I have to admit he’s my favorite, as he was Dostoievski’s also.
(Jesus, by the way, grew up in Nazareth, which is to the north. Tiny country, though, to have so much interesting history!)

Posted by: juliania | Jun 4 2020 19:22 utc | 52

Yet another article announcing Billionaire gains during pandemic–a $$79 Billion w/w gain or $4.1 Trillion on a yearly basis. How such numbers ought to be seen is as a negative to the overall economy as measured by GDP–the overall economy shrank last week by almost $80 Billion.
The highly provocative NY Times op/ed by Cotton provoked a sickout strike and job-risking pushback via Twitter by staffers.
At least one faction of the DNC is trying to do something positive:
“urging presumptive 2020 Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden to commit to spending up to $16 trillion over the next decade to combat the climate crisis and put the U.S. on track for near-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2040.”

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 4 2020 19:31 utc | 54

Here is my second comment on the thread before last, in reply to previous statements from karlof1 and Antispin on the significance of the Dead Sea Scrolls with respect to the mission of Jesus as described by Professor Michael Hudson:
Just briefly, but it does relate to Professor Hudson’s scholarly involvement – I found this link particularly on the “Book of Jubilees”:
https://blogs.ancientfaith.com/wholecounsel/2019/10/30/the-book-of-jubilees/
I’ve bookmarked it, as it provides a wealth of information I hadn’t known – thank you so much, karlof1! I’ll just give a short quote from the summation:
…the Book of Jubilees, regardless of canonical status, is a critically important witness to the interpretation and religious significance of Genesis and Exodus in the first century AD. It is invaluable as background to the apostles and New Testament writers in understanding their world view and experience. The texts which make up the Christian Scriptures are not timeless texts. They were produced by real men in real times and places…
The linked article gives pertinent examples quoting ‘Jubilee’ within the New Testament itself – fascinating!
Posted by: juliania | Jun 4 2020 0:47 utc | 199
I will repeat that I do appreciate the emphasis on a ‘jubilee year’ which is present in the Gospel account of Jesus’ first sermon. I am only saying that was not his primary mission, though useful to underline the connection between God’s forgiveness of our debts and our forgiveness of the debts of others, right there in the most important prayer Christians can say, as given by Christ himself to his disciples. And that it all relates back to the Jewish tradition of the Jubilee year is without doubt extremely important. We are in Professor Hudson’s debt that he has pointed that out.

Posted by: juliania | Jun 4 2020 19:36 utc | 56

Sorry, in the above, the quotation from the link ends at ‘real times and places…’ The next sentence is my own. I missed correcting the truncation when I transferred the post here.

Posted by: juliania | Jun 4 2020 19:40 utc | 58

If there is a third to the one-two of rony and riots the timeline might get relatively short but the general rule of history is that empires do not fall quickly.
Wrt WSWS, their core problem is just the classic disconnect of woke middle class. Really frustrating because it provides a rare almost-msm-but-anti-msm perspective that often makes some good points before jumping off the deep end.

Posted by: Rae | Jun 4 2020 19:46 utc | 60

I’m watching DW News reporting from a city in AmeriKKKa. The reporter says that most protests in the US are now peaceful and free of violence and vandalism. Is it possible that Trump’s “When the looting starts, the shooting starts” persuaded the ratbag element that ‘the price (of vandalism/looting) wasn’t worth it’?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 4 2020 20:04 utc | 62

I keep hearing about how Israeli F-35 jets have been attacking targets inside Syria and that Russian anti-aircraft weapons have been unable to stop them. What is really going on? Are the Syrian army trying to bring down the planes, do they have the latest Russian S-400 rockets, etc?

Posted by: Rob | Jun 4 2020 20:21 utc | 64

Is it possible that Trump’s “When the looting starts, the shooting starts” persuaded the ratbag element that ‘the price (of vandalism/looting) wasn’t worth it’?
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 4 2020 20:04 utc | 61
More likely the calming elsewhere has led to the decline, not Trump’s efforts to incite violence.

Posted by: Laguerre | Jun 4 2020 20:23 utc | 66

@Rob

“F-35 jets have been attacking targets inside Syria and that Russian anti-aircraft weapons have been unable to stop them”

HAHAHAHAA!!!! The F-35 has a hard enough time attacking it’s own pilots. Shoot real targets?

Posted by: Dr Wellington Yueh | Jun 4 2020 20:30 utc | 68

@61 Hoarsewhisperer
Trump couldn’t persuade a skunk crossing his path not to pee on him.
Trump in front of Saint-John’s Church. Here’s a bible, that doesn’t belong to me and I never read, but just to show you what a stand-up guy I am, I gassed a few hundred people so’s I could share my Choseness with my bootlicking, whitewashing, punch-drunk base; Hoarsewhisperer, being one of those faithful suckers I can always count on.

Posted by: Circe | Jun 4 2020 20:41 utc | 70

@ Posted by: Laguerre | Jun 4 2020 19:32 utc | 54
So, there’s already a peer reviewed study explaining the exact biochemical reaction that makes hydroxycloroquine to reduce the (SARS-CoV-2) virus load at a given critical mass in the human body? Does it also explains why it doesn’t reduce the virus load after a certain threshold?
Give me the link, then.
And you did know there are other studies proving hydroxycloroquine is a glorified placebo at best, didn’t you?

Posted by: vk | Jun 4 2020 21:03 utc | 72

https://academic.oup.com/aje/advance-article/doi/10.1093/aje/kwaa093/5847586?searchresult=1
” Hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin has been widely misrepresented in both clinical reports and public media, and outpatient trials results are not expected until September. Early outpatient illness is very different than later hospitalized florid disease and the treatments differ. Evidence about use of hydroxychloroquine alone, or of hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin in inpatients, is irrelevant concerning efficacy of the pair in early high-risk outpatient disease. Five studies, including two controlled clinical trials, have demonstrated significant major outpatient treatment efficacy. Hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin has been used as standard-of-care in more than 300,000 older adults with multicomorbidities, with estimated proportion diagnosed with cardiac arrhythmias attributable to the medications 47/100,000 users, of which estimated mortality is <20%, 9/100,000 users, compared to the 10,000 Americans now dying each week. These medications need to be widely available and promoted immediately for physicians to prescribe."

Posted by: Roger | Jun 4 2020 21:04 utc | 74

@61 It’s possible that Trump’s threats scared them off. Maybe legitimate protesters got fed up with them. Or maybe they’ve run out of easy Targets

Posted by: dh | Jun 4 2020 21:12 utc | 76

…
Hoarsewhisperer, being one of those faithful suckers I can always count on.
Posted by: Circe | Jun 4 2020 20:41 utc | 69
Yep. You got that right.
As soon as Trump declared himself to be the Drain The Swamp POTUS, I was 100% certain that I wasn’t going to like the tactics necessary to get the job done. It’s amusing to hear people complaining that Trump’s not acting like Tinkerbell on a Unicorn – considering the depths of evil festering within The Swamp.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 4 2020 21:13 utc | 78

Minn cops trained by Israeli police, who often use knee-on-neck restraint

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 4 2020 21:17 utc | 80

Posted by: ak74 | Jun 4 2020 19:15 utc | 50
Thanks ak74, interesting and with thanks. Let me expand and share what I know (4th and final attempt).
“Fresh off the assembly line, America has just announced its newest clone of Juan Guaido–for China! ….His name is Miles Kwok (or Guo Wengui, Guo Wen Gui, Guo Haoyun, and Miles Kwok), is a Chinese billionaire), a fugitive billionaire who fled China and now is promoting something called the “New Federal States of China”– backed and supported by Steve Bannon!”
Been watching Guo Wengui, Gordon Chang and Jennifer Zeng closely in ZeoHedge and South China Post (SCMP) follows their move. They are diehard (mind bogging) Chinas’ bashers. There are two China bashers, still under wraps similar to Jeff Bezos (Amazon). Pierre Morad Omidyar (intercept and Ebay), Keith Rupert Murdoch (Sky News and Walls Street Journal, previously SCMP).
Joseph Chung-Hsin Tsai or simply Joe Tsai (Alibaba executive vice chairman, Brooklyn Nets) and puppet Gary Liu (CEO of SCMP). I am in SCMP website every day and well researched, in depth coverage but extremely bias, mixing and confusing points of views. They have correspondents’ worldwide, China (Beijing, Shenzhen and more), Singapore, UK, USA, Hong Kong, Malaysia and elsewhere. Usually a story two or more writers. To protect the writers and hid and protect their sources, they ensure it’s not base in China or Singapore but elsewhere… Singapore political systems similar to China…. free to voice your opinions and publish but you’re be bankrupt or jailed. Ask Leslie Fong he was the Strait Times Editor during Lee Kuan Yew regime.
Eng not my mother tongue, don’t articulate as I wish more forgetfull. Watch two videos than decide if I’m correct. The title or subjects matter are not important, listen carefully the replied and watch how Gary Liu behave alone and with his boss Joe Tsai in 2ns video. There are more videos, but I’m ain’t gonna confuse you do yr own searches in You Tube …
Artificial Intelligence at Heart of Alibaba Ecosystem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIh2-S2jXls
What the world can learn from China’s response to the coronavirus | Gary Liu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGcD8CTlDEc

Posted by: JC | Jun 4 2020 21:22 utc | 82

No surprise here…Now they’re covering by saying he was recently graduated from the academy… Which only goes to prove, as Jimmy Dore said, that this is the kind of person who goes into police work.
‘Let’s start a riot’: Denver cop fired for inflammatory Instagram post

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 4 2020 21:22 utc | 84

Heiko Maas, one more “German official” with miraculous sources:
Germany’s Heiko Maas says has evidence of Russian involvement in cyberattack on Bundestag

“There is concrete and indisputable evidence that a Russian national, together with other people, conducted a hacker attack on the Germany’s Bundestag in spring 2015 for the Russian intelligence,” the minister claimed.
[…]
Russia repeatedly denied allegations of involvement in the attack. No German security agency ever provided any evidence to support the media’s version of the cybercriminals’ ties to Moscow.

Posted by: vk | Jun 4 2020 21:59 utc | 86

@Posted by: Sol Invictus | Jun 4 2020 20:22 utc | 64
I saw clearly since the first minute that Bannon was behind all this…It´s his style all the way. The more taking into account that some protests by his far-right outlets had started and started almost simultaneously of few days before those in the US.

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jun 4 2020 22:12 utc | 88

Tom at ICH has done us all a favor by republishing the excellent 2.5 year-old 2017 National Geographic article dealing with the pseudo-science of race and how all humans are one genetic species;
“It’s been used to define and separate people for millennia. But the concept of race is not grounded in genetics. – DNA reveals what skin color obscures: We all have African ancestors.”
The author is Elizabeth Kolbert, who recently published The Sixth Extinction: An Unnatural History.
Back when I taught Physical Anthropology, I’d always have at least one Creationist in class ready to challenge the course goal of getting students to know that the Theory of Evolution is a Fact, the root of the problem being that Fact wasn’t taught in Grade School by the 3rd level then further taught about in subsequent levels as the science taught became more complex.
When it comes to the science on human evolution, those proclaiming themselves to be Racists of any stripe are merely telling us they’re uneducated ideologue buffoons who never should have been allowed to graduate from High School.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 4 2020 22:16 utc | 90

Now this is interesting – if it isn’t BS from one politician trying to make points…
Minneapolis City Council Looking At Disbanding Entire Police Department

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 4 2020 22:21 utc | 92

Vk@48
“- a claim for which there’s no scientific evidence whatsoever.”
Thats just wrong. Now perhaps the evidence is not great because we have yet to see a large scale well designed trial like we saw for Gileads drug (funded by Faucis NSIAID and fast tracked) and which has orphan drug status and thus monopoly pricing power. Those trials are expensive and do generally don’t get done unless there is a profits motive. HCQ is off patent. Gilead failed its trial so they had to change the end point from mortality rate to faster recovery (2-3 days). It did not affect mortality. Its also super expensive (1000 times more so than HCQ) with far more side effects than HCQ.
My mother at 88 has taken HCQ for 20 years for Lupus. No side effects. She also was COVID free despite attending a senior day care center in Boston right up until it closed due to lockdown
Heck even China used HCQ since their experience with SARS showed it helped.
There are some really fine Doctors recommending this treatment with no obvious financial interests unlike the anti HCQ crowd.
Although not proof we do know New York refused to make its enormous stockpile of HCQ available outside a clinical trial. Governor Andrew Cuomo banned the clinical use of HCQ in the entire state of New York on March 6. Over 40% of NY’s many deaths were in nursing homes. Florida by contrast, where many of NY rich elderly go for the winter has done remarkably well in this crisis, as the state dispersed, and promoted HCQ for its residents.
HCQ is also being used successfully as a prophylaxis in other countries like India, to protect medical workers, first responders, household contacts, and other persons at risk of exposure. The COVID-19 mortality rate in India is only one per million in population, compared with more than 300 per million in the U.S. (or 3 per 10,000)
The Virology Journal – the official publication of Dr. Fauci’s National Institutes of Health – published article on August 22, 2005, under the heading – “Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection…We report…that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage.”
Said Dr. Fauci’s NIH in 2005, “concentrations of 10 μM completely abolished SARS-CoV infection.”
Dr. Didier Raoult, said way back on February 25 that “it’s game over” for coronavirus. He and a team of researchers reported that the use of HCQ administered with both azithromycin and zinc cured 79 of 80 patients with only “rare and minor” adverse events. These researchers concluded “we confirm the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine associated with azithromycin in the treatment of COVID-19 and its potential effectiveness in the early impairment of contagiousness.”
The highly-publicized VA study that purported to show HCQ was ineffective showed nothing of the sort since it was conducted on patients Already seriously ill plus HCQ was administered without azithromycin and zinc, which form the cocktail that makes it supremely effective.
On March 23, Dr. Vladimir Zelenko reported that he had treated around 500 coronavirus patients with HCQ in NY and had seen an astonishing 100% success rate . The treatment costs about $20 .
Other Studies on HCQ are here (I broke some links with a space to prevent page break)
Combined Treatment Effective
Triple-drug combo of anti-malaria pill hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and ZINC improved coronavirus patients’ chances of being discharged and cut death risk by almost 50%, study finds
Highlight: “Results showed that patients receiving the triple-drug combination had a 1.5 times greater likelihood of recovering enough to be discharged.”
Study link: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/
10.1101/2020.05.02.20080036v1
Highlight: “…an increased frequency of being discharged home (OR 1.53, 95% CI 1.12-2.09) reduction in mortality or transfer to hospice (was) significant (OR 0.449, 95% CI 0.271-0.744)”
Study link:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8309337/Zinc-
hydroxychloroquine-effective-COVID-19-patients-study.html
Hydroxychloroquine Phosphate
Gautret et al., linical and microbiological effect of a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin in 80 COVID-19 patients with at least a six-day follow up: A pilot observational study.Travel Med Infect Disease 2020 Mar-Apr 24: 101663: doi: 10.1016/j.tmaid.2020.101663. Epub 2020 Apr 11.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32289548
Highlight: “All patients improved clinically except one 86 year-old patient who died, and one 74 year-old patient still in intensive care. A rapid fall of nasopharyngeal viral load was noted, with 83% negative at Day7, and 93% at Day8. Virus cultures from patient respiratory samples were negative in 97.5% of patients at Day5. Consequently patients were able to be rapidly discharged from IDU with a mean length of stay of five days.”
Gautret P LJ, Parola P, et al.: Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin as a treatment of COVID-19: preliminary results of an open-label non-randomized clinical trial. Int J Antimicrob Agents 2020, Pre-Print. https://doi.org/10.1101/2020.03.16.20037135
Highlight.Twenty cases were treated in this study and showed a significant reduction of the viral carriage at D-6 compared to controls, and much lower than reported average carrying duration of untreated patients in the literature. Azithromycin added to Hydroxychloroquine was significantly more efficient for virus elimination.
Chen et al., 2020. Efficacy of hydroxychloroquine in patients with COVID-19: results of a randomized clinical trial MedRxiv https://www.medrxiv.org/content/
10.1101/2020.03.22.20040758v3
Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin as a treatment of COVID-19: results of an open-label non-randomized clinical trial.. Intl J Antimicrobial Agents Online March 20, 2020, 105949 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/
article/pii/S0924857920300996
Studies against HCQ are flawed
pilot study of hydroxychloroquine in treatment of patients with moderate COVID-19
CHEN Jun, LIU Danping,etc
Department of Infection and Immunity, Shanghai Public Health Clinical Center, Fudan University, Shanghai
Patients in HCQ group were given HCQ 400 mg per day for 5 days plus conventional treatments, while those in the control group were given conventional treatment only. Tells us nothing since conventional treatment includes antivirals, interferon and other expensive treatments
Another no benefit study
https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1849
Both groups received Concomitant treatments, including antiviral agents, antibiotics, and systemic glucocorticoid therapy similar. Again, tells us nothing .
Another negative (no benefit) study
https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1844
No benefit in severely ill patients. Dr Rauolt already warned it must be given early in disease as seriously ill have extensive lung damage and there is little virus left to fight.
So is HCQ a magic cure? No, but its cheap, relatively safe and should have been used far more often than it was.

Posted by: Kay Fabe | Jun 4 2020 22:26 utc | 94

Hypocrites promising chinese people health care and right to education, coming from depraved bunch fighting tooth and nail to prevent everyday americans access to same basic economic right!
Posted by: Sol Invictus | Jun 4 2020 20:22 utc | 64
Perhaps they are patriots who want to convince Chinese to ruin their (Chinese) economy, loose freedom to state-provided healthcare and suffer for those reasons. Oh, they are hypocrites either way. BTW, they also say that “Israel shares our values”, but somehow it does not include universal health care and gays in the military.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jun 4 2020 22:34 utc | 96

Kay Fabe | Jun 4 2020 22:26 utc
I am not sure if it applies, but drug testing has elements of “dark science”. First one collects preliminary data to figure out the difference between patients that respond well to the medication (therapeutic effects, no or few side effects) and those who do not. Then you collect a “cohort of subjects” that will give you statistics closer to what you want. This approach has legitimate uses, since people differ, you want to have medications that cover those differences. Illegitimate uses involve bad-mouthing the competing drugs and skimpy disclosure about patient characteristics that suggest that the drug will not help.
When you make a hostile test of a combination of drugs, you can manipulate by using a wrong dose for some of them.
So the tested cohorts could be legit or not. But it gives you a perspective why a brilliant man like Rault may disparage “double blind drug tests”. The principle is sound, but they are necessarily slower and not as objective as they seem to be.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Jun 4 2020 22:46 utc | 98

Kay Fabe #92

So is HCQ a magic cure? No, but its cheap, relatively safe and should have been used far more often than it was.

Thank you ++. The frantic exercise to discredit this simple cheap prophylatic speaks for itself. The constant stream of faulted studies kept in perpetual motion by big pharma and its blog weasels speaks for itself.
If a harmless cheap pharmaceutical can ward off a cold then its use should be encouraged not blocked at every turn. Next thing the big pharma and its weasels will ban garlic and oranges and arrest people for sitting in the sun.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 4 2020 22:50 utc | 100