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June 15, 2020

Harry Harris - Insubordinate U.S. Ambo To South Korea - Soon To Be Fired

On Friday the U.S. embassy in Seoul hung up a large 'Black Lives Matter' banner and posted a tweet about it:


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U.S. Embassy Seoul - @USEmbassySeoul - 22:04 UTC · Jun 12, 2020

The U.S. Embassy stands in solidarity with fellow Americans grieving and peacefully protesting to demand positive change. Our #BlackLivesMatter banner shows our support for the fight against racial injustice and police brutality as we strive to be a more inclusive & just society.

When I first saw that tweet on Saturday I wondered how long the banner would stay up. It was clear that the White House would be miffed about it as the banner and the tweet were running against Trump's election tactic of raising tensions.

Today the banner was taken down:

A large “Black Lives Matter” banner draped on the front of the U.S. embassy in Seoul was removed on Monday after it was brought to the attention of President Donald Trump and Secretary of State Michael Pompeo, according to people familiar with the matter.

Pompeo and Trump were both displeased about the banner, the people said. A large, multicolored “pride” banner recognizing lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer people was also removed on Monday. They were replaced with a banner commemorating the 70th anniversary of the end of the Korean War.

To hang up such a banner can be understood as a public protest against Trump. The U.S. ambassador in South Korea is Harry Harris, a former 4-star general and head of the U.S. Pacific Command:

“USA is a free and diverse nation... from that diversity, we gain our strength” the U.S. Ambassador to South Korea, Harry Harris said in a re-tweet of the official embassy message in which he also quoted former President John Kennedy.

The embassy had displayed the large rainbow flag in support of “LGBTQ Pride Month” last year, despite an order of the State Department not to hoist the banner.

Harris' full tweet:

Harry Harris @USAmbROK - 22:15 UTC · Jun 12, 2020

I believe in what President JFK said on June 10, 1963 at American University: "If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity." USA is a free & diverse nation...from that diversity we gain our strength.

Harris is Asian-American. His mother is Japanese. I am pretty sure he takes anti-racism seriously (even as his arrogant behavior towards Koreans lets one assume differently.)

Harris was originally supposed to become U.S. ambassador to Australia. That would have been a plush and easy job. But two years ago Trump and Pompeo ordered him to Seoul in preparation for Trump's talks with North Korea's chairman Kim Jong-un. Harris was known to be a North-Korea hawk:

On the subject of North Korea, Harris expressed caution in falling for the country's so-called "charm offensive," indicating Kim's regime as the most immediate threat to both the U.S. and South Korea during a House Armed Services Committee hearing in February dedicated to security issues in the Indo-Pacific region.

According to Harris, Kim's desire is to reunite the peninsula under a single communist system. "He's on a path to achieve what he feels is his natural place," he said. He championed the strengthening of the U.S. missile defense system as well as economic and diplomatic pressure to "bring Kim Jong Un to his senses, not his knees."

On several issues Harris pushed South Korea and its government around. There were public demonstrations against him and a group of young people even climbed over the embassy wall to protest against his arrogant behavior.

It seems Harris has had enough of his thankless job. There were rumors in April that he would not stay on during a second Trump presidency or that he might even resign earlier:

US Ambassador to South Korea Harry Harris has said privately that he does not plan to stay beyond the November US presidential election, regardless of whether President Donald Trump wins another term, five sources told Reuters news agency.

Harris, a 40-year veteran of the US Navy and Trump appointee who started in Seoul in 2018, has expressed increasing frustration with the tensions and drama of his tenure, the sources said, all speaking on condition of anonymity because of the diplomatic sensitivity of the issue.
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In December protesters destroyed portraits of Harris during a demonstration outside the US Embassy as they chanted, "Harris out! We are not a US colony! We are not an ATM machine!"

My best guess is that Harris ordered the LGBT and BLM banners up as intentionally insubordinate acts towards Trump and Pompeo. "Fire me. I dare you." As a former high ranking commander he is likely to support the opinions of other former generals, like Dempsey, Mullen and Mattis, who recently protested against Trump's threat to use active military against protesters.

The man wanted to make a point before he leaves his post.

That is now likely to happen rather sooner than later.

Posted by b on June 15, 2020 at 15:00 UTC | Permalink

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jason #76

"I believe this was not an act of desperation, but an act of asymmetrical warfare waged against us."

what won't this asshole say?

Thank you, that was a gem lurking in the swamp. I guess he thinks that MH17 was an act of asymmetrical warfare too. And of course Sergei Skripal set the entire thing up to embarrass the USA (nothing could embarrass the UK).
He probably believes the attack on the USS Liberty was a self inflicted wound to embarrass the USA.

This dope is an Ambassador?

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 16 2020 7:22 utc | 101

bob sykes #53

Well you have a problem with history dude..the USSR did it not the dirty yanks..they try to teach that in school..but it's one of the greater lie of first half of 1900..It's not easy in a propaganda world I can understand but please we are adult enough to know it's just a lie.

Posted by: LuBa | Jun 16 2020 8:10 utc | 102

He should be fired.

“Black Lives Matter” is associated with “Act Blue” - which is - guess what - a Democrat aligned partisan activist platform.

The Ambassador is effectively supporting a partisan political movement of the Opposition Democrat Party!!

Isn’t he supposed to represent the interests of the United States and the current Republican Administration of President Donald J Trump?

I would have thought so.

Fire him.

Ambassadors shouldn’t play partisan politics.

Posted by: Julian | Jun 16 2020 8:12 utc | 103

Posted by: Julian | Jun 16 2020 8:12 utc | 105

How true, if an ambassador wants to play partisan politics, he/she should resign their post and join the opposition. This man is a coward ro is being put up to this by the opposition to score political points. He prefers to force the administration to fire him rather than take the principled position and resign.

I don't like Trump, the Republicans or the Democrats and would never vote for any of them if I were a USAian. It is also obvious that BLM is controlled by the oligarchs through the intelligence services and the Democrat party, which contols BLMs finances.

As Whitney in #99 notes, this is an attempted coup by the Oligarchs, not of Trump, per se, but to overthrow the constitutional Republic to pave the way to an authoritarian feudal system.

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Jun 16 2020 8:23 utc | 104

The West supported Hitler for a decade before WW2. Trade was going on normally. Olympics in Berlin 1936, what could be wrong in a country where jews, social democrats and communists had been lynched and murdered on the streets in the open since 1933?

Posted by: Mina | Jun 16 2020 8:32 utc | 105

uncle tungsten @ 41 -- ".... a banana republic well on its way to becoming a peanut Republic.... a disreputable nation...."

Soooo.... this is how to qualify as the "normal nation" that Phat Pomparse demands other nations to become?

Posted by: kiwiklown | Jun 16 2020 8:33 utc | 106

Julian & blue dotterel
Don’t you think your looking to deep into this ?
Bias confirmation ! Take the slogan literally. So what part of ‘Black lives matter’ don’t you agree with ?
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Look the fact that possibly a group of dodgy capatilists try and capitalise on the slogan dosent say the whole movement is fake! Dose it ?
The U.K. Labour Party sadly was infiltrated by the Israeli lobby group and distroyed it from within. Shame on them.
Now we have street fighting.
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So cut to the chase ! Do black lives matter or not ? A straight yes or no will surfaice.
Only then can we move forward.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 16 2020 8:47 utc | 107

Further to my above comment———
Just how loud do we have to shout, how violent do we have to get before we are heard ?
It’s a white problem ! Wake The F up..

Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 16 2020 9:00 utc | 108

bob sykes @ 53 -- "b hates the US, because it played a significant role in the destruction of his beloved Third Reich."
Passer by @ 54 -- "Well, you guys (US) are killing people all over the world, so that's why the world hates you. Stop killing people all over the world and then people might stop hating you."

Beginning with the First Nations eradication, you guys have been stealing other peoples' lunches, grabbing entire nations, eg. Hawaii, Philippines, Mexico ( partially, now called Texas ), South Korea, Vietnam ( ooops, failed that time ), China ( ooops again, failed that one too ), Iraq, Libya, Syria ( now failing ). That's how 7 billion human beings, once given the correct, non-MSM information hate on you guys.

Posted by: kiwiklown | Jun 16 2020 9:10 utc | 109

Organized crime is trying to use the grievances the leadership failures of the lying elected to remove the Bill of rights Amendments BORA from the constitution. Without BORA, the Constipation of the USA is a license to steal. because it becomes a dictatorship. If ever there were a reason to riot, it would be to force those elected to make good on the promises made to give to them the constitutional powers the use to claim the right to rule.


It seems to me that the protest movement is actually the perfect vehicle for affecting dramatic change in governance. and that change can only serve the interests of those with an agenda; social change will follow the political change, the riots are not about social change (the anger used to promote the riots might be about social change) but the riots are about political change.

the egging on of the violence by politicians in both parties and by the whole of media including many alternative media websites, suggests national media and elected politicians have conspired to suppress the true national scope of local destruction being perpetrated against selected communities which have been looted, their small business and private property owners burned out, with extraordinary shows of economic destruction, with massive on-going, unnecessary but through displays of thefts and the very unAmerican-like violence all suggest the owners of the media either approve of, or are an integral part of the accelerating peaceful protest into reckless chaos.

CIA regime tactics are typical to these types of unrest demostrations in regime change actions. Basically they follow a pattern.
the regime change planners seek to find a local anti-system grievance that can be used to turn locals with a grievence into emotion driven activist (basically these planners have made warriors of the activist. The activist are a few percent of a local population but they have the significan local sentiment for whatever reason, and that local sentiment is sufficient to generalize consent to the activities of the activist. Hence, the exploitable become the infection site where millions are infused to strengthen the movement in exchange for infiltration by professional agitators. The activist organize large turnouts for peaceful protests, but the infiltrators merge with the local activist only until the professional agitators can take over; that usually happens when the shooting starts, because the locals are non violent; they want no part in the looting, property destruction or murders, it is this looting, property destruction and murders that drive the locals to give up control to the professionals.

Hence a destabilization campaign is born, in fasion similar to CIA instigated color revolution where, puppet governments are installed by media instigated and directed voting, followed by economic disaster imposed by the puppet governor, all designed to push tens of millions of ( in this case) Americans into homelessness, helpless, destitution all of which produces, with little need for leadership, a leaderless heard of wandering sheep, who become easy prey for Federal troops directed by wealthy "winner take all EZ". to save all from themselves. take a look at the link

http://themillenniumreport.com/2020/06/proof-positive-these-fake-race-riots-were-pre-planned-right-down-to-the-memes-and-mottos/#more-86356

Shock Therapy, fake riot, and lock down

Let me remind you that there are at least three constitutional provisions in the BORA (Bill of Rights amendments, the 1st ten amendments to the Constitution of the USA)
1st amendment is that Congress will make no law abridging the freedom of speech, and
3rd amendment says No soldier shall be quartered in any house, without
the consent of the Owner <=anyone working for the infiltating groups, are soliders and anyone working for a media that is aiding and abetting the revolution are soldiers), the fourth amendment says The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searchs and seizures, shall not be violated.. but when these social network and seach engine people track inside your home are they not doing just that..?

I believe no revolution is needed, Americans just need to make the governors follow their own constitution (basically any one working for the USA must fully subscribe to and enforce the provisions outlined in Bill of rights Amendments (BORA).

karlof1 @46 is right, if the USA had not spent all that money to support warriors, war machine makers and whores, to support the corporations the USA laws made into feudal lords, in lordship ventures in foreign lands with USA taxes collected from the Americans the USA governs, and instead spent that money on the good and betterment of those the USA governs, there would be no basis for a protest. Are the deficiencies of the USA to the social needs of America a fault in leadership, or the result of a leadership installed to change the form of government that rules America from Oligarch dominated Republican from of government < to> the dictatorship George Bush said would making governing easier?

Posted by: snake | Jun 16 2020 9:12 utc | 110

Let’s cut to the details ———
Who trains those cops to kill? Who screens those cops from their induction rewarding the violent racist cops ?
Who funds that training ? What budget is spent on that type of training ? What govenment department signs the cheque ?
Follow the money. Sack them all. And then we can ALL sleep safe in our beds.
It’s called law and order.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 16 2020 9:16 utc | 111

Grieved @ 63 -- "No one is happy, anywhere in the US."

Exactly. People outside the US can see this so clearly. You Americans deserve better, but will the 1% even give you a fair shake? A shakedown perhaps, just like the trillions of USDs freshly-minted while you guys are arguing about a virus

Posted by: kiwiklown | Jun 16 2020 9:25 utc | 112

"The man wanted to make a point before he leaves." b
Pretty flamboyant! Kindof like a high school cheerleader standing up on a school cafeteria table and saying: "I never liked our head cheerleader! She's mean, she's a slut and I can't be on her team anymore! Oh, and she's racist!"
The Black Lives Matter brand is quickly becoming mainstream. Glen Ford lays out what is going on, reminding us of what happened in the 1960s and 1970s, connecting to Biden's capture of the Dem nomination. He also adds insight and nuance to "defund" vs "community control", brings in foreign policy and calls out Alicia Garza for selling out. More to dig into than our ambassador/cheerleader hissy fit.

https://blackagendareport.com/time-sharpen-our-weapons-and-wits

Posted by: migueljose | Jun 16 2020 9:59 utc | 113

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 16 2020 1:00 utc | 71 -- ".... this is first and foremost a Class War .... The Enemy is the Rentier Class.... their desire to universally enslave humanity via Debt Peonage. And that Class will use every tool at its disposal to arrive at that outcome.... So we either resist as one or lose, as we all together constitute the only countervailing force capable of fomenting the required change of our societal order!"

Well said.

This Rentier Class is also the enemy to some 99%% of the rest of the world, entire nations having been robbed, denuded, stripped bare, and now living as "shit-hole nations". We, who live outside the US actually live under those conditions. If we had known better, we would of run when the US "exported democracy" to us. This is the Class I refer to when I say the American 1% Elite desires to eat other peoples', even of the entire world's lunches.

And yes, we -- most of us here -- who are more awake to this Rentier Class' history of raw greed, should unite as one of many forces against them. We ought not demean / undermine / distract / obstruct each other, but we ought to at least record what we are seeing done to the 99% in the US, and to 99% of the rest of the world. Some day, a young person of integrity will stumble upon on our words, and be assisted to rise up.

Posted by: kiwiklown | Jun 16 2020 10:04 utc | 114

When are the generals going to have their own gay parade? They are gayer than Catholic priests.

Posted by: Robert Browning | Jun 16 2020 10:34 utc | 115

@Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 16 2020 1:24 utc | 77

In an article posted yesterday at RT, in the line of far-right wing linked here by "snake" and the likes, citing some arson incidents which we have witnessed were started by white people in mask and hood, like Wendy´s, adding the ubiquitous presence of a "rapper warlord", it was said that there is a call for far-right armed militias to descend on CHAZ on July 4th in case it has not been liberated for that date.

Thus, it seems that Trump, as he could not mobilize the military, has mobilized its fascist militias instead. Notice that there was an article/comment published at SST, then deleted, on unleashing "death squads" on the protesters...

The tendentious article at RT, as that linked by "snake", abund in the qualification of these protests as leftists and Bolshevik. This is the same conversation there was in the "alt-media" blogs during the 2016 campaign, so as to scare the people to vote for Trump.

I will repeat again, that The Bolshevik Revolution was not based on indiscriminate arson and chaos, the famished legion took care even of the treasures collected in the Winter Palace, things they had never witness before, as reserved for enjoyment of the upper classes and Tsarist court, and due to that you, and all the Russian people, can enjoy them today at the Hermitage Museum. Putin himself would had never been able to witness them were not the Bolshevik Revolution to happen, in the first place....

The Bolshevik Revolution had well read, well prepared intelectual leaders, who had a vision, project and strategy for a continuing of state in all its fields and aspects, as the fast development of the USSR to world power in just few decades after the war showed to the extent that the US had to declare war on it.

There is no way a leftist or Bolshevik revolution could handed anytime the power to a "rapper warlord" who happen to pass by, that is more mafia procedure, of which both Trump and deep state he faithfully serves are very familiar, a construct for the people to claim for "law and order".

Law and order, is not precisely what the US people have witnessed during the pandemic with a scoundrel & familiy hoarding health and protective material and handing it over to his "warlords" for resale to states, or advising people to inject bleach into their bodies to fight the virus on TV Prime Time...

Law and order, is not what is happening in Wall Street during all the pandemic and "riots", but yes, an "orderly" transfer of wealth never seen to date from the 90% of US population to the oligarchs.

"Law and order", as understood by Trump and its minions ( fascist rule ) is what they will need to restrain you when you realize you have been robbed of eveything, not precisely by a shabby black person...What he tries to achieve through these fake riots and "rappers warlords" is that he can do it with your consent, that is that yo uwillingl yvote the fascist rule.


Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jun 16 2020 11:08 utc | 116

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 16 2020 4:09 utc | 92

Right, sure, whatever. They should get smart and vote for your boy Donald Trump because he hasn't started any new wars, right? You are exactly what Benjamin Studebaker is referring to in his recent article about these "protests." You;re using them as a pretext to strengthen the autocratic hand.

A Left Critique of the Current Protests

Meanwhile, Donald Trump will point to every violent moment, no matter how small, no matter who committed the deed, and make the old Nixonian case for “law and order“. Wherever possible, he will try to use these protests to divide people and pit white workers against black workers. Trump rushed to antagonise the protesters, calling them “thugs” and pledging to “dominate” the streets. This language is purposefully incendiary–it aims not at extinguishing the protests, but at extending them. Trump wants them to go on, because he wants us to analyse US politics through a racial lens, because the racial lens helps him rally his base. This president campaigns almost exclusively for his base and makes little effort to reach out. If he wins again, it will be in part because so many of his core voters will fearfully rush off the polls, hoping he will protect them from the violence they see everyday on TV.

But even this victory will be Pyrrhic if the price is a move back into the pre-Bernie discourse. We have been slowly backsliding into the morass of the culture war for the past several years now, and this could be the moment when that backsliding becomes permanent and irreversible. If so, we are in for another decade of cultural antagonism between liberals and conservatives, fuelling ever more aggressive forms of nationalist revanchism. This is a dangerous game, and it is one we are very likely to lose. Sadly, our organizations are inferior to the organizations of the anarchists and the woke neoliberals, and for this reason they will continue to hasten the victory of the right nationalists, much to our chagrin.

Posted by: 450.org | Jun 16 2020 11:20 utc | 117

@118, spot on. Excellent. Especially this.

I will repeat again, that The Bolshevik Revolution was not based on indiscriminate arson and chaos, the famished legion took care even of the treasures collected in the Winter Palace, things they had never witness before, as reserved for enjoyment of the upper classes and Tsarist court, and due to that you, and all the Russian people, can enjoy them today at the Hermitage Museum. Putin himself would had never been able to witness them were not the Bolshevik Revolution to happen, in the first place....

The Bolshevik Revolution had well read, well prepared intelectual leaders, who had a vision, project and strategy for a continuing of state in all its fields and aspects, as the fast development of the USSR to world power in just few decades after the war showed to the extent that the US had to declare war on it.

Posted by: 450.org | Jun 16 2020 11:24 utc | 118

Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 16 2020 8:47 utc | 109

Real lives matter, but that does not necessarily mean that an organization that calls itself BLM is not a fake organization set up for a very different objective. This has been done before in many countries including the one I am living in. Previously, this has been to justify coups and authoritarian oppression, so why not now. Why some USAians think they are exempt fom such actions is a mystery to me. Especially, since there country and intelligence organization are primarily responsible for many actions like these in other countries.

https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/do-deep-state-elements-operate-within-the-protest-movement/

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Jun 16 2020 11:26 utc | 119

Fyi, for the record, there are no TRUE "Leftists" in America. Zero. Therefore, there is no possibility of a "Leftist" movement let alone a "Leftist" revolution. "Leftists" in America only exist in Pat Lang's diseased mind. He's murdered so many of them during his ignoble illustrious career, he sees their ghosts at every turn — behind every door, under every bed and in every closet. The Revolution will not be televised because there will be no Revolution. The ingredients for such simply don't exist and can not be spontaneously conjured out of thin oxygen-depleted toxic air.

Posted by: 450.org | Jun 16 2020 11:42 utc | 120

@Posted by: 450.org | Jun 16 2020 11:24 utc | 120

The thing is that both RT and the Russian government, and the far-right here or elsewhere, try to put in the same sac anarchists, gang-thugs, communists, leftists, and so on.

I will clarify once for all, the original left and communists have never claimed for the dissapearance of the state, thus, it is more state what they claim, in opposition to liberals of all furs who claim for less and less state.

Those who are claimming all the way for a reduction of state are Trump and his followers, a reduction they need to not pay taxes themselves but collect yours, and remake the state into a mafia style construct of likeminded gangs...who then will turn fighting each other, as happened during the 50s and after the fall of the USSR...

Now see who have more in common with CHAZ and the "rapper warlord" allegedly collecting taxes through his network of gang thugs...It has the Trump trade mark all the way...

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jun 16 2020 11:55 utc | 121

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Jun 16 2020 11:08 utc | 118 What he tries to achieve through these fake riots and "rappers warlords" is that he can do it with your consent, that is that you willingly vote the fascist rule.

Agreed. But he won't get my vote. I don't vote, since I'm an anarchist.


Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 16 2020 12:24 utc | 122

Hadn't heard about this incident...

Outrage at video showing child who was maced by police at Seattle protest


Since then, Hreha has been arrested and spent two days in jail for what some are calling police retribution for a video which went viral. The young boy is still traumatized, reeling from the chemical burn on his cheek and asking his parents what he did to deserve it.

“I would say that you were targeting my boy,” Avery told the Guardian, asked what he would say to police. “I don’t know if you were trying to set an example and strike fear into him. You did a great job.”

What upsets him most, Avery said, is that officers and a group of emergency medical technicians standing about a block away did not step in to help.

“No officer, who’s paid to protect, chose to stand up, break the ranks, go help this child,” he said.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 16 2020 12:35 utc | 123

Your Supreme Court at work...

Supreme Court turns down cases on 'qualified immunity' for police


The Supreme Court passed up at least seven cases Monday that would have allowed it to reconsider aspects of a legal doctrine that torpedoes many lawsuits in which citizens allege abuse by the police.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jun 16 2020 12:37 utc | 124

Puget Sound John Brown Gun Club — This Has Pat Lang Written All Over It

They try this in my neck of the woods, they're dead. They've turned CHAZ/CHOP into a Gaza and they have assumed the role of Hamas. Coincidence? I don't think so.

Hey all of you aspiring Assanges, crack the operating systems and servers and release the communications between Lang and the Trump administration over the past several years. It's your moral duty. If you're worth your salt, which, of course, you're not because you're exploitive opportunists just as the wealthy extractive elite are. As it is above, it is below.

A militant Antifa group known as the Puget Sound John Brown Gun Club is patrolling the six blocks known as CHOP or CHAZ. In other words, the activists that kicked cops out of the occupied space now have their version of “police,” but with no meaningful police training and stubborn ideological beliefs. What could possibly go wrong?

Though some media outlets prefer to treat CHOP or CHAZ as a peaceful, social justice Utopian paradise, the illegally occupied area has policing needs. But they don’t trust highly trained officers. So, organizers turned over the security to people willing to use violence to stifle activists with positions they disagree with.

Posted by: 450.org | Jun 16 2020 13:00 utc | 125

This whole liberal whites participating in the looting and rioting brings a famous movie to mind: Midnight Cowboy. Referring to the scene where Ratso Rizzo sells Joe Buck on the idea of Ratso becoming his pimp- "what you need is management."

Posted by: Morongobill | Jun 16 2020 13:13 utc | 126

Idiots. Buffoons. America is truly insane in every conceivable way. What does a failed state with five thousand nuclear weapons look like? America. The collapse of America effects the entire planet in many ways. America's nukes are one way and a prominent concern.

The State of CHAZ — Playing With Fire

Sunday night, the CHAZ nearly erupted into a wider conflict. A man dressed in black broke into the Car Tender, a local business, allegedly stealing some items and setting the building on fire. The shop’s owner and a heavily armed companion put out the fire and detained the alleged thief, prompting a mob of protesters to swarm the area, break down the fence, and confront the shop owners, believing a rumor that the thief was being held at gunpoint. After a tense exchange, Raz Simone and the mob eventually chased down the alleged thief and forcibly detained him. Despite multiple calls for service, the police refused to intervene.

In the end, activists may be more comfortable in the role of revolutionaries than that of state-builders. In recent days, some have argued that the autonomous zone’s name should be changed, to the Capitol Hill Organized Protest, or CHOP—an onomatopoeia for the swift downward flight of the guillotine. Whatever name activists choose, the governance of CHAZ/CHOP reveals a key flaw in social-justice theory: in the absence of a legitimate police force, society does not become immediately peaceable. Instead, it can quickly descend into mob justice. By empowering masked Antifa activists and armed vigilante leaders such as Simone, the CHAZ is playing with fire. Unless a solution can be reached, it’s a strong possibility that this utopian experiment will end in tragedy.

Posted by: 450.org | Jun 16 2020 13:14 utc | 127

White House demands end to $600 per week emergency unemployment pay

So much for the MMTers; so much for the neo-social-democrat chimera called universal basic income.

People need to be put to work, after all. And there's no better incentive for that than hunger, disease and cold.

As the great philosopher István Mészáros once stated, capitalism is the biggest and most efficient suction pump of human labor in History.

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@ Posted by: A User | Jun 16 2020 5:03 utc | 95

The founding fathers certainly had an American (as in the whole continent) strategy. Thomas Jefferson himself stated Cuba was part of the USA's natural borders. But I think it is a stretch to affirm they foresaw the fall of the British Empire (which would only happen in 1873-1914). They tried to invade and conquer Canada (Ontario province) in 1812, but were soundly defeated by a British Empire that had just reached its apex. The failure in conquering Canada may have been a turning point to the founding fathers' imperialistic ambitions, I don't know American History to this point of detail.

By the Civil War, the USA already was one of the British Empire's main commercial allies. That's the main reason the UK didn't recognize the Confederation as the true USA.

Posted by: vk | Jun 16 2020 13:23 utc | 128

From the article linked to @127. This is tragic comedy. They called the fucking police and expected the police to respond. Unreal.

Sunday night, the CHAZ nearly erupted into a wider conflict. A man dressed in black broke into the Car Tender, a local business, allegedly stealing some items and setting the building on fire. The shop’s owner and a heavily armed companion put out the fire and detained the alleged thief, prompting a mob of protesters to swarm the area, break down the fence, and confront the shop owners, believing a rumor that the thief was being held at gunpoint. After a tense exchange, Raz Simone and the mob eventually chased down the alleged thief and forcibly detained him. Despite multiple calls for service, the police refused to intervene.

The police did not intervene. Gee. I wonder why?

Posted by: 450.org | Jun 16 2020 13:27 utc | 129

You lot won’t be so smug when ther’a a knee on you neck !
You’l be shouting ——
I can’t breath, I can’t breath, I can’t breath ‘
Disgusting,

Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 16 2020 13:37 utc | 130

How is it not clear to everyone that Trump is a full-fledged member of the CCP? They love Trump. Trump has been GREAT for China. He dismantled Obama's TPP which was, in effect, a China containment prescription by non-military means. Considering Pat Lang's emphatic support of Trump, how he licks Trump's scrotum and rectum, it can be asserted Lang is a full-fledged member of the CCP too since he advocates for their man, if Trump can be called a man and he can't, in the Oval Office.

Chinese Officials Want Trump To Win Reelection Because He Is 'Destroying US Alliances' And Won't Unite To Fight Beijing

Chinese officials are keen for President Donald Trump to win the November presidential election because he will continue "destroying US alliances," which could strengthen China's position in the world.

Nine current and former Chinese official told Bloomberg that the US is more dangerous to China when it unites with its traditional allies — which could happen if Democratic frontrunner Joe Biden becomes president.

Posted by: 450.org | Jun 16 2020 13:41 utc | 131

450.org@ ...
How are you going to feel when your child gets maced in the face ? You won’t be so smug then will you. Ha ha ha !

Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 16 2020 13:47 utc | 132

It's a Shame. It was a Pleasure meeting him over the Phone over 30 Years ago when I was a Midshipman Introduced by a Mutual Acquaintance of an American-Japanese Mixed Heritage.

It's One thing to make a Statement Sympathizing with those Lawfully Calling for Reforms; but flying Banners belonging to Rioters/Looters - those Designated as Domestic Terrorists by the POTUS - as well as a Banner Advocating Alternative Lifestyles not so Advocated in the Far East - were Unwise for Embassies to Do.

Embassies and Ambassadors need to be adept at DIPLOMACY.

BTW, B - it's Admiral. That's the Formal Name of his Rank. General/Flag is the Class Category, with General (Bring-Me-Liquor/Brigadier-Major-Lieutenant) being the Proper Titles for the Army, Army Air Corps, and the Marine Corp Flag Officers.

Posted by: IronForge | Jun 16 2020 14:25 utc | 133

to which the south koreans responded "what's a 'black life'"? i kid. they known what a black person is...and they aren't really fans. it says a lot that they actually have "reverse tanning".

and being both japanese and...WASP? irish? whatever...he's probably not a fan of the "natives" and it's safe to assume this stunt was for a US audience.

and now i need a shower after using wikipedia as a reference. ew.

Posted by: the pair | Jun 16 2020 15:59 utc | 134

To : kiwiklown | Jun 16 2020 10:04 utc | 114 (and others)

Poverty is the norm, not the exception.

Posted by: AA | Jun 16 2020 17:05 utc | 135

A strangely muddled post by our host. A known bad-apple cop murders, yes, a known black thug who was always going to meet a violent end. The hysteria surrounding this is objectively being fanned by the Democrat-entertainment complex; in particular, any serious observer of US politics knows that BLM is a fully integrated component of the Dem Party, with a much bigger presence in the Beltway media bubble than in actual black neighborhoods.

Speaking of the latter, it wouldn't take much to find working black people who hate lowlifes like Saint George; no surprise, they're the ones nonstop being terrorized by them.

So if some poser in Seoul decided to play along with the media spectacle, what reason does Trump have to put up with such nonsense? Especially if it's someone who has already displayed the condescending colonial attitude to Koreans so typical of yanks, and thus would be wise to stay out of the racism debate. Come to think of it, what job does a general have playing ambassador, when the required skill sets are opposite? I say good riddance.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Jun 16 2020 17:20 utc | 136

Don Bacon @90--

Sure, and the socio-economic state that "motivates" Blacks doesn't have a thing to do with Class. Did you even listen to what those two Black radicals had to say in the Rengade Inc show I linked?

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 16 2020 17:32 utc | 137

kiwiklown @114--

Thanks for your reply! I began deep study of Neoliberal Structural Adjustment Programs as they were termed and implemented by IMF and World Bank during early 1990s while doing self-directed study at University of Hawaii Manoa and knew there'd come a time when the class responsible would eventually attack the first world nations once there was little remaining to loot elsewhere. I knew about Hudson's work since I'd read Super Imperialism back in the 1970s soon after it was published, but the trove of information available now wasn't then and I went off on a different tangent with my studies. When I returned to formal college classes in the latter half of the 1990s, I was somewhat shocked at the level of ignorance displayed by my Profs at global political-economy, SAPs and their institutions, and the increasing use of the WTO to exert Outlaw US Empire hegemony on global trade even as industry was being offshored. I minored in Economics, but there were no answers as the sources of those answers had been eliminated from the curriculum as Hudson's described, so I turned to the history of contemporary Empire beginning with the British, which was all self-directed study since there were no classes covering the topics. Yes, I was very motivated to discover, but very few "traditional" students were interested, or the Profs for the most part.

IMO, it's very clear that we aren't meant to learn the reasons behind our exploitation as the only real way to discover them is to go way beyond the educational system and find out for one's self, and that seems true in a growing majority of nations. But that's a very inefficient way to create a massed resistance since the basic education supporting it must be known for solidarity to be consummated. Those few of us who are aware aren't young--Hudson's in his 80s, Keen his 70s, Wolff his early 60s. I'll be 65, psychohistorian's in his early 70s, and so forth. In much of the discourse, the term Class War is rarely seen/used, nor is the genuine enemy ever directly fingered--Globalists is far too vague a term and is actually misleading. Furthermore, writing about Narrative Control is great but IMO it must be reiterated constantly that such control is required because it must be employed for the Class War to succeed.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 16 2020 18:25 utc | 138

It’s about empathy for your fellow human being, some of us have it, sadly some of us don’t. It’s a clear devide here on this blog/post. I pity those here without.
Lack of heart and soul!
Harry Harris clearly has empathy ! A brave man indeed !
The first of many to stand up to trump the more the better.
‘Black lives matter’

Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 16 2020 20:46 utc | 139

snake #110

Re your link to the Millenium report on the Obama foundation tweet.

That was a ridiculous, anti socialist POS.

I have no idea if the chain of events actually happened but the story was crap and a thinly disguised race hate / socialist hate piece.

I say BS. and you are welcome to prove me wrong.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jun 16 2020 22:06 utc | 140

@139 Mark2

Seems every blog, like every town, has a village idiot. Here's to hoping your (!) key breaks.

Posted by: Lucid | Jun 16 2020 22:41 utc | 141

there are more pressing issues facing the Korean peninsula than a slightly renegade US ambassador, that's for sure.

from noon yesterday:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/06/15/black-lives-matter-banner-removed-u-s-embassy-s-korea/3191041001/

...As of midday on Monday, both banners were continuing to be featured on the embassy's website....

.....However, reports from Bloomberg and CNN, citing people familiar with the matter, said the Black Lives Matter banner was taken down after it was brought to the attention of President Donald Trump and U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. Bloomberg's report did not elaborate. CNN said the embassy received a request for it to be taken down by the State Department's "seventh floor" – where Pompeo's offices are located.....

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 16 2020 23:25 utc | 142

You are welcome, james. There has been some fantastic riffs in comments following my remarks somehow alluding to the Byzantine empire and casting about for a definition of Russian Orthodoxy that wouldn't let it be thought of as a great tradition, which it most certainly is, having been under considerable strain to survive during the wonderful, spiritually uplifting reign of communism, which apparently severed the Christian link in the hearts of the Russian people.

I remember a program on tv (during USSR days) in which I believe a citizen of Moscow opined that as long as there was one icon in a corner of a Russian apartment, there was still Christianity alive and well in the people's hearts. I also remember the visit of a lovely Russian cellist to our little Russian Orthodox church in the US who feasted with us after the service clearly delighted to see we were like family far from home. And I have beautiful recordings of Orthodox music from other countries, in particular from Japan - more lovely and spiritual than any in Russia itself. The church moved out to Alaska where natives are very deeply Orthodox there, loving the beauty of the faith.

What is "neobyzantine" about this? It's not an empire and it should not be. It is a faith, and a universal one at that. In so many languages, for that was the thrust of Orthodoxy, to be at once translated into the people's own common speech. That is where multipolarity has its roots; that is what Putin believes in. And not just for Orthodoxy, but for the other ethnic faiths as well. The Russians can be proud that their first leaders chose this particular faith, carrying it from its home in Constantinople much as today's Olympic heroes carry the torch from Mount Olympus. But Russian Orthodoxy is different from Greek Orthodoxy in so many subtle ways, while remaining true to core beliefs, and it's a fascinating and beautiful story.

I'm sorry, that ridicule bespeaks of ignorance - you are missing so much! Do you really want to live in a world without Russian churches and their music and their architecture? Or the beautiful temples of Islam? What would it be like?

I shudder.

Posted by: juliania | Jun 17 2020 0:07 utc | 143

b: changed tact is the wrong useage. Tact is circumspection, sensitive response to others.

To change tack is to change the direction the wind hits the sails, a sailing term.

Posted by: DeQuincey | Jun 17 2020 0:14 utc | 144

Thank you, Grieved @ 63. I think this is a time of reassessment in the US. And yes, the young folk are at sea. They can visit the civil rights era in films, hear the passionate voices, but it is from the past, and most of what they know of that past is vaguely distorted by the present. They know the times are out of joint, and it's clear in some sense they have to relive the turbulence of those days. I guess you never do completely resolve (as we were told a resolution had happened) our struggles in this country for equality in the law, when reality like techtonic plates slips so heartlessly as it did back then. We've been at sea for a long time since then, supposing we'd reached some wonderful plateau as Obama was elected president - wow, how great was that? Only to realize like thelma and louise in that awful movie we're having to point the car out over the abyss...

Just don't forget to put the pedal down all the way. There's good in this country still. And each generation needs to remember the good. Don't be cynical. It's messed up; it's really, really messed up. But it doesn't have to be.

Yes, grievances, Grieved! Can we call it an awakening? I sure hope so!!

Posted by: juliania | Jun 17 2020 0:33 utc | 145

@ Posted by: juliania | Jun 17 2020 0:07 utc | 143

I don't know about the other three big religions (Judaism, Buddhism and Islamism), but, if the goal of Christianism is to last forever (or live forever), than it already lost the war: what people call today "Christianism" (regardless of the variations, even the Catholic one) is completely different from what the peoples from the Middle Ages called Christianism, which is completely different from what the ancient peoples called Christianism.

Religion in general lost a lot of power and influence after the Second Industrial Revolution. With the advancement of science and the creation of the bourgeois (liberal) State, religion lost its concrete political power. Today, religion is more like a personal philosophy or ethical/moral code people adopt as self-help than the political ideology it was until at least the end of the Middle Ages. A far cry from the era religion could start wars, murder emperors, crown kings, designate successors, hire entire mercenary armies and own much of European land. Back then, religion literally mattered - wanting you or not.

And yes, one day, religion was we know it will disappear, as will all the churches and monuments - as Roman paganism did (with the help of active extermination and temple destruction by the Christians). Things only matter until they don't matter; everything solid melts into thin air.

Posted by: vk | Jun 17 2020 1:36 utc | 146

June 7th: Indian Army says 20 soldiers killed in clash with Chinese troops in the Galwan area : https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/indian-army-says-20-soldiers-killed-in-clash-with-chinese-troops-in-the-galwan-area/article31845662.ece

Posted by: Antonym | Jun 17 2020 2:06 utc | 147

I see on the news today ‘aparently’ face book are going to clamp down on ‘fake news’
What exactly does that mean?
They say it’s in response to allegations of Russian ‘interference with Preveous American elections!
Considering the massive interference America carry’s out on an industrial scale. It seems to me the US have successfully turned reality on its head.
America’s sanctioning Syria for regime chainge ditto Iran, Venezuela, Cuba ,ect ect.
Face books clamp down on fake news. Is in fact a clamp down on the truth. The inconvenient truth.
Free speech is the very last battle front of our sane society. When that is lost all is lost. Some are scared of the truth !
This blog is one of the last bastions of truth.
Kudos to ‘b’
P,S’
This subject would make an excellent subject for b to post !
Neatly following on from this Hart Harris topic.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jun 17 2020 9:29 utc | 148

karlof1 | Jun 15 2020 21:23 utc | 50

A much better question would be: When will BLM change its name and focus to All Lives Matter?

AFAIK the executive of BLM is all Jewish, so I imagine the answer is "Never".

Posted by: foolisholdman | Jun 21 2020 21:02 utc | 149

Mark2 | Jun 15 2020 21:54 utc | 51

That question is simply counterd by the slogan.———
NO JUSTICE NO PEACE !!
So you can see it’s a white problem not a black problem.
My view is ——— all lives don’t matter until black lives matter ! Racists lives don’t matter, trumps life dosent matter. And the quicker the USA & U.K. are ‘broken up the better !
Neither are fit for purpose.

"The way these comrades look at problems is wrong. They do not look at the essential or main aspects but emphasize the non-essential or minor ones. It should be pointed out that these non-essential or minor aspects must not be overlooked and must be dealt with one by one. But they should not be taken as the essential or main aspects, or we will lose our bearings."
Mao On the Question of Agricultural Co-operation (July 31, 1955), 3rd ed., pp. 17-18.

"If in any process there are a number of contradictions, one of them must be the principal contradiction playing the leading and decisive role, while the rest occupy a secondary and subordinate position. Therefore, in studying any complex process in which there are two or more contradictions, we must devote every effort to finding its principal contradiction. Once this principal contradiction is grasped, all problems can be readily solved."
Mao "On Contradiction" (August 1937), Selected Works, Vol. I, p. 332.

In this situation there is a number of contradictions and clearly the Black-White conflict is one and the conflict between the ruling class and the working classes is another. It is also quite clear that the ruling class uses the Black-White conflict as a way of preventing the working classes from turning their attention to the Class conflict. Until the class conflict is attended to the B-W conflict will be stoked up again and again by them. Clearly the class conflict is vastly more important than the B-W conflict and solving it will bear fruit, whereas "solving" the B-W conflict is probably impossible until the class conflict is solved and if it were "damped down" it would only be for a while, until it was needed as a distraction, again.

Posted by: foolisholdman | Jun 21 2020 21:53 utc | 150

Don Bacon | Jun 15 2020 22:41 utc | 59

The premise that there is as much prejudice toward poor whites as there is against blacks in the US is ignorant, untrue and ridiculous.

The point is not that there is "as much prejudice toward poor whites as there is against blacks". The point is that the "struggle for Black Equality" is a deliberate distraction from the underlying class conflict, and that until that conflict is resolved, there will be no resolution to the B-W conflict. The prime example of this mistake is South Africa. The Blacks there "got equality", after a long and bitter struggle, but the SA working classes are still oppressed, not now by a pure White ruling class but by a mixed-race ruling class! And the Black SA workers are little, if any, better off! Big Deal! I don't think!

Posted by: foolisholdman | Jun 21 2020 22:20 utc | 151

The hypocrisy among commenters here is glaring. ...
Posted by: vk | Jun 15 2020 16:24 utc | 11

I am not sure if one should call it hypocrisy. Hypnotized, spellbound, entranced, enchanted? It feels to me? Glued to their master conductors' baton, their hunted hounded hero and victim. While fearfully watching out for the diverse symptoms of the 'organized Resistance' and diverse multicolored and cultural enemies up to antifa terrorist out there eternally plotting to overthrow their adored MAGA cherry blossom king.

The irony lies of course in the outcry about these very, very specific breach of etiquette. Considering the lofty etiquette of the emperor.

Posted by: Vig | Jun 22 2020 6:02 utc | 152

Maybe Harris is a K-Pop fan.

How US K-pop fans became a political force to be reckoned with

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 25 2020 14:38 utc | 153

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