The coronavirus may have arrived in Europe as early as November last year, French scientists have revealed.
Dr. Michel Schmitt, from Albert Schweitzer Hospital in Colmar, northeastern France, and his team of researchers examined thousands of chest X-rays from late 2019 and were able to identify two scans that were ‘consistent’ with the symptoms of Covid-19.
The scans, which were identified between November 16 and November 18, now cast a new light on when the coronavirus crisis first hit Europe as scientists continue their search for ‘patient zero’.
The scans, which were obtained by NBC News, were among almost 2,500 X-rays that Mr Schmitt’s team analysed and show the virus was in the country before its first reported case on January 24.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8373559/Coronavirus-Europe-NOVEMBER.html

Posted by: Mao | May 31 2020 14:42 utc | 3

George Galloway is likely correct as he does have excellent sources. Also on the virus news I guess there will be a lot of mansplaining coming up as the national responses are compared. New Zealand has nailed it with direct and resolute action as has China, Thailand and others. Some not so clever.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 31 2020 15:02 utc | 5

One wonder what the police hopes to gain from this strategy.

The same as in Iraq, eliminate any possibility of any incriminating graphic testimony, by professional or citizen journalism, of excesses, or just direct crimes, commited by Law Enforcement Forces or military on behalf of the current regime or worst coming…

Posted by: H.Schmatz | May 31 2020 15:13 utc | 7

Boeing has been the first multinational corporation in being bailed out through the pandemic…to then continue outsourcing jobs…
In some European countries, corporations who do not pay taxes in the country but avoid them through tax havens along with those firing people, were declared as not electable to be rescued by tax payers money….

Posted by: H.Schmatz | May 31 2020 15:22 utc | 9

@profk@hotmail.com #4
There was a thriving trade in white slaves in North Africa from the 1600s to the 1800s. Pirates would capture ships and ransom cargo and people – keeping the people as slaves in the meantime. This is one reason for the “shores of Tripoli” line in the US Marine Corps anthem.
It is why there are still some buildings with fancy Delft (Dutch) tile in Tunisia and Morocco today – built with ransom money.
Even before that – Roman debt slavery/latifundium were mostly Europeans.

Posted by: c1ue | May 31 2020 15:33 utc | 11

Color me shocked /sarc
Many advances in AI are illusory (Science mag)

Posted by: c1ue | May 31 2020 15:40 utc | 13

Skimmed the previous thread about racism and the murder of one black man (which I deplore..) Nor is US ‘racism’ or ‘cop violence’ to be dismissed.
However, the huge no. of comments and media storm are a sign of grabbing onto traditional issues and memes promulgated mostly by part of the political spectrum in cahoots with the MSM.
Condemnation of Racism, the 101 of identity politics, used in many different ways, is an emotional smoke-screen for any other analytic eye, be it based on ‘class’ – in a way old-hat, more later maybe, difficult point – economic, anthropological, ecological, type of view, analysis.
Blame and finger-pointing do not contribute to a happier, better world, unless they are followed up with some collective agreed-upon action – might be forgiveness, with / or helping the deviants to change, even prayer and pardon; or stiff prison sentences, or hanging in the public square. First of all, of course, not much mentioned, is, institutional changes are needed. (E.g. reviewing Police mandate, Pay, actions, etc.)
The PTB often prefer to let indeterminate and rumbling violence fester and on occasion explode, that serves chaos and their ‘power’ – until it gets out of hand.
What is germane for the US now is that Central Power (Fed, Presidential) is slipping in many ways. While it can be recovered sometimes, the COV19 crisis presents a new situation that many don’t acknowlege, the present social economic landscape is unprecedented.

Posted by: Noirette | May 31 2020 15:44 utc | 15

“Pax americana”, Renau (1962).
https://twitter.com/ComisionOctubre/status/1267002942609031168

Posted by: H.Schmatz | May 31 2020 16:18 utc | 17

Who said this is anarchic mayhem and thay they have no leaders?
Here activist Tamika Mallory setting the record straight:
https://twitter.com/alexbare_/status/1266910900122013696

Posted by: H.Schmatz | May 31 2020 16:31 utc | 19

Eventhough the regime infiltrators, this really seems a popular spontaneous movement, just the people was fed up:
https://twitter.com/astridvalentina/status/1266832182380761091
It is goood that this happened now, since the regime, or the usurpers of the regime, will have to think a formula to get all those citizens into their homes and willingly accept an status quo…
A certain share and redistribution of wealth seems to be implied, but will that be enough?

Posted by: H.Schmatz | May 31 2020 16:44 utc | 21

My first comment is to thank b for the National Review piece asking why the policeman who caused George Floyd to die was not immediately arrested. For those who are having difficulty viewing this link, I suggest you take the heading to your search engine and find it separately. I had that difficulty still but was able to remove offending popups. And I would add that the other three policemen ought to have been also immediately indicted as accessories. If government hadn’t wanted riots (and it increasingly appears that they did) the appropriate action would have been this immediate action.
Here’s an impeachable offence, Democrats. Of course, you won’t impeach on these grounds, but you should!

Posted by: juliania | May 31 2020 16:48 utc | 23

@Posted by: vk | May 31 2020 17:10 utc | 23
Agree, but you see how Tamika Mallory is stating who are behind the arsons.
Anyway there is a coordinated effort by the far-right white supremacist upper middle class and their blogs to discredit these legitimate protests.
To debunk a poster at SST stating that the behavior exhibed by Chauvin is an isolated case in the police departments, well, we all know that is simply a lie, no other way these protest of such scale could happen in that case, anyway some graphic document as there they will not be posted ever….
https://twitter.com/EstulinDaniel/status/1267084980456427520

Posted by: H.Schmatz | May 31 2020 17:21 utc | 25

@ vk 23
You are completely wrong, of course.
What is happening now is the exact same thing as Hong Kong.
In any given instance of mass revolt, you have two warring factions, usually funded at the top by diametrically opposed elites.
In Hong Kong, it is western, old-guard/money versus Chinese, new-guard internationalists.
In America, we have the old-guard/money represented currently by the DJT-phenomenon, meaning Anti-globalist nationalists, and, on the other side, you have new-money internationalists and neolibs represented by billionaires, big-tech, the democratic party and garden-variety globalists.
Look at the degree of organization (or lack thereof) which was able to politically assassinate Gen. Flynn! You had the dem establishment and billionaires like the Clintons, Obama-faction sycophants all the way up to the top.
You think that this event is entirely grassroots?
Give me a f ucking break, vk. You are such a blatantly obvious Chinese shill, no doubt probably employed by globalist entities, that the fact you are unable to employ an effective and probable analysis on these current “protests” reaffirm to me exactly what you are and what you stand for.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | May 31 2020 17:45 utc | 27

Do Mr. Trump will designate ANTIFA as a terrorist organization:
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/trump-designates-antifa-terrorist-organization
Could this really means he first shot of the civil war 2.0?

Posted by: DFC | May 31 2020 17:57 utc | 29

US is becoming like Israel even more. Considering same people rule both countries, and same people train cops in both of them, is it surprising 99%-ers in US are becoming treated like Palestinians?

Posted by: Abe | May 31 2020 18:05 utc | 31

@ 27 Blue Dotterel
Yes, this would be jackrabbit’s leitmotif which he has peddled here for a good while now.
Again, the proof is in looking in your heart and asking yourself whether or not HRC would commit herself to such an embarrassing loss during 2016 prez election. Knowing who HRC is and what she stands for, it is not hard for me anyway to decide that her loss was not intentional and it stung bad.
Another is the political assassination of Gen. Flynn. There was indeed a coordinated conspiracy to find a scapegoat to prevent the shifting from a pro-China/anti-Russia policy to a pro-Russia/China-as-actual-competitor policy under a DJT presidency.
If you think none of the above carry any weight and you could play a game of shuttlecock with them not caring which is brought forth, then you might think along Jackrabbit’s lines that the DJT-phenomenon is complete bullshit.
I would argue that the line that DJT is some working-class hero is probably bullshit, but when it comes to two warring factions of elites fighting over the direction of America, the struggle right now is very real.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | May 31 2020 18:08 utc | 33

Apparently, the commentator named Robert, who I’d never encountered before, took offense at Cornell West’s accurate analysis of the Outlaw US Empire as a “failed social experiment.” Well, this report and many others confirm beyond doubt Mr. West’s words. The doctrine being displayed is amply visible in the militarized police’s behavior, and it’s not that of the society that’s premised on the Constitution and its Bill of Rights. The War being waged isn’t between two groups primarily Civil in their nature meaning they’re composed of the Citizenry; rather, the War being waged has existed for a very long time and is all about Class, as in the Upper Class and its hired guns waging War on all lower classes of civilians. That’s what’s happening! The long downtrodden classes are finally rising and attempting to perform a counter-attack against the forces that have oppressed them for many decades. And if any group’s to be labeled Terrorist, it’s the forces of the State and the Parasitic Class they’re hired to protect.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 31 2020 18:09 utc | 35

@Posted by: DFC | May 31 2020 17:57 utc | 28
That was asked by Pat Lang yesterday.

Posted by: H.Schmatz | May 31 2020 18:20 utc | 37

..”One wonder what the police hope to gain from this strategy.”…I wonder what these “protesters” hope to gain. They beat a man almost to death, just for protecting his property. A truck driver unfortunately ran over one protester, after he panicked because one pulled a weapon to his passenger side window, while others were stealing packages from the trailer. They destroyed a property that was to be a site for affordable housing. What good is that now? Stupidity reigns supreme in my opinion, by these protesters. Yes, a man was killed by a police officer, who should be brought to justice. But to just destroy everything in your path that has nothing to do with the original grievance, is just wrong. So to me, it looks like both sides are cut from the same cloth.

Posted by: Jose Garcia | May 31 2020 18:21 utc | 39

Posted by: NemesisCalling | May 31 2020 17:57 utc | 29
what the coroner says has no importance.I think must be hard living in cognitive dissonance so that a brain can think that the man died for natural causes..It must be hard for rural yanks to make peace with their minds,to find a way to judge and spit on black people again..but that’s it,if the police is racist and act in racist way are not the black to be blamed..DJT working class hero?never heard of a racist zionist being friend of working class..

Posted by: LuBa | May 31 2020 18:35 utc | 41

@ Posted by: NemesisCalling | May 31 2020 17:45 utc | 26
What you talk is pure nonsense because those “neoliberals/globalists” you talk about are all Americans. More importantly, they don’t seek to change how the USA works, only who will operate the machine.
Just because you don’t like them doesn’t mean they aren’t American. Of course you would love to posit your enemy as a foreign threat, but reality is cruel and has precedent over what you think should be.

Posted by: vk | May 31 2020 18:40 utc | 43

@42 vk
When have I ever mentioned that these anational elites could never have “United States” stamped on their birth certificate under country?
You are grasping at straws, my friend.
Fuck the anational elites the world over, I say, especially the hyper-capitalist ones in the U.S.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | May 31 2020 18:43 utc | 45

Re: the Slate article and the police violence in response to protests against police violence… what to say, it doesn’t get much dumber really.
As shocking and disgusting as it is to see, for once the world and Americans can see the result of their soldiers’ and police recruitment and training put to effect on their own population, instead of Middle Eastern, Central Asian et al. populations. Just imagine what they have had to endure, if that is how their own civilians are treated in front of a camera, for all to see, in 2020.
I think there is something seriously wrong with some Americans’ brains, it is like they are incapable of reading a situation and interact with fellow human beings with even the most basic emotional intelligence or empathy, let alone strategic foresight.
This will take generations and a lot more bloodshed before it can change, especially when self perception, introspection and humility are not the country’s strongest suits either.
The great Prof. Johan Galtung had predicted the collapse of the USA in 2020… it seems Covid19 and some dumb cops may have chipped in to prove him right just in time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8npPSB90ZU&t=4s

Posted by: Et Tu | May 31 2020 18:48 utc | 47

Posted by: NemesisCalling | May 31 2020 18:40 utc | 43
“he (DJT) is exactly like any other elite!”
Bravo! And, of course, he is working for and with the oligarchs to increase their wealth and power relative to the rest of us. This has been done before.

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | May 31 2020 18:51 utc | 49

LuBa, Nemesis
A comment on a previous thread by marquessa theressa explained that the trauma George Floyd suffered at the hands of the police could’ve caused him to die of heart attack instead of asphyxiation.
To everyone except those who want to excuse the white establishment and police thuggery:

• it’s clear from the video that George Floyd was murdered by the police;
• it’s clear that ALL of the officers should be charged and arrested immediately – not doing so is just prompting enraged citizens to riot.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 31 2020 19:02 utc | 51

Posted by: vk | May 31 2020 18:48 utc | 47

USA, for most Americans, is an idea, not the literal territory. America only ends where an American can imagine. That’s why American nationalism is so virulent and aggressive.

That is not nationalism but imperialism. All empires think that way.

Posted by: hopehely | May 31 2020 19:07 utc | 53

Color me shocked /sarc
Many advances in AI are illusory (Science mag)
Posted by: c1ue | May 31 2020 15:40 utc | 13
Sometime between the 80s and today, the definition of AI got downgraded from human-equivalent-consciousness to adavanced-script / data-mining. Whenever I read AI somewhere it is never even close to the right ballpark… and I just can’t put my finger on how deliberate or natural the bastardisation of the word / idea is?

Posted by: Rae | May 31 2020 19:12 utc | 55

Nemisis Calling @ 29, no, I am not doing what you claim. Arrest is not conviction, and it ought to have been speedily done, just as a virus crackdown ought to have been speedily done. I have just finished reading the timeline link b provided for the spread of the virus in England. It’s long, but I highly recommend it to all, since parts of it I did not realize had happened. I did not see the connection between the inability of hospitals to contain unproven infected elderly patients with those being sent to retirement homes due to inadequate testing at the hospitals. The result being that uninfected retirement homes became repositories for the disease.
In the timeline, (thanks so much, b) here is the earliest US response noted:

26 January 2020: Nassim Taleb and two colleagues publish a note with the New England Complex Systems Institute urging a robust precautionary response to the outbreak. “Policy- and decision-makers must act swiftly and avoid the fallacy that to have an appropriate respect for uncertainty in the face of possible irreversible catastrophe amounts to ‘paranoia,’ or the converse a belief that nothing can be done”, they conclude. (New England Complex Systems Institute)

Posted by: juliania | May 31 2020 19:15 utc | 57

It’s about class struggle in the streets. Trump is using the coercive branches of the state to try to tip the balance of forces in public spaces in favor of the far right.

Posted by: Prof K | May 31 2020 18:55 utc | 49
Exactly, by means of the violence caused mainly by inflitrated pro-Trump white supremacists and undercover pro-Trump US Army especialists, he is preparing the terrain for when in November he lose the elections, or even before, when he continues transferring wealth from the masses to the corporations in the middle of widespread poverty and even hunger.
The murder was preplanned to achieve exactly this goal.

Posted by: H.Schmatz | May 31 2020 19:23 utc | 59

@Digital Spartacus 45
Indeed, I think most people, here in Canada and elsewhere, watch just enough of the news to be able to show that they’re on the same wavelength/page as others in their social circles, to remain on par with the rest of the herd in social conversations.

Posted by: Canadian Cents | May 31 2020 19:32 utc | 61

Posted by: LuBa | May 31 2020 19:13 utc | 55

anyway DJT has built his electoral force just with the image of anti-establishment dude..against “deep powers” ,he created a narrative of the dark plot working behind him.then he mixed this with a good dose of iso-nazionalism and he knew well that a lot of white sheeps were with him..but I don’t think those sheeps live better now..a MAGA hat is not good to eat at lunch.

Yeah sure.
Why, oh why the sheep did not pick someone else back in 2016, like Jeb Bush or Ted Kruz, or at least little Marco.
It would be all different now.
Hm, maybe it would be different with Jeb, who knows.
Ah well.

Posted by: hopehely | May 31 2020 19:45 utc | 63

i’d be more impressed if he labelled wall st bankers as terrorists, but you know that ain’t gonna happen…
those are the career criminals robert was asking about on the previous thread..

Posted by: james | May 31 2020 19:59 utc | 65

Antifagate will fail for the same reason Russiagate failed: the protesters know they aren’t Antifa, the same way people who voted for Trump know they aren’t Russian assets.
This is a big shot on the foot by the Trump administration. It will only erode confidence on the WH even more.

Posted by: vk | May 31 2020 20:15 utc | 67

All 6 CVS drug stores within a 2 block radius of the SF Financial District vandalized. Windows or door glass broken. Looks like theft as well from merch on floors near entry points. Target in FiDi also hit.
Union Square stores hit as well.

Posted by: c1ue | May 31 2020 20:23 utc | 69

Longtime Minneapolis resident observes that despite decades long “progressive” slant to city and state politics, necessary reform of police agencies have always been stymied.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-05-30/george-floyd-protests-show-limits-of-progressive-minneapolis
“…ultimately, the only sustained political pressure for police reform and racial equity that Minneapolis has faced comes from its black residents. Clearly, that hasn’t been enough to convince the city’s leadership to use it. Neither, for that matter, has it been enough for Minnesota’s legislators: Since 2015, at least a dozen police reform bills have been introduced, none of which have passed.”
This systemic factor is being recognized explicitly across the US this weekend.

Posted by: jayc | May 31 2020 20:24 utc | 71

I just witnessed a video of at least a hundred rioters black, latino and a few white breaking into a store in broad daylight and looting everything their arms could carry. Fact: multiple races involved. No conspiracy.
Are the military and police prepared to arrest thousands of people? How many people can U.S. jails and prisons hold? Get ready then to expand the already largest prison system in the world and feed them all.
The American Dream started to implode the moment Trump became the Chosen of the 1%. How do you like your MAGA now, you redneck Trump bootlicking morons?

Posted by: Circe | May 31 2020 20:25 utc | 73

Excellent group of articles and some good comments – some a little off the wall, but . . . . Here´s another. To see the disturbances going on around the US makes me sad. People have every right to be unhappy, furious, over the death of Mr. Floyd and all that it represents. Unfortunately it seems that the protests/disturbances will play out as per usual. Violence and mayhem directed at the police, at commercial and public buildings is being met with violence against the protesters. Whether the violence is due to the presence of provocateurs or not is unimportant. It is just street violence. Nothing will change. The violence is being directed at the wrong actors. Racism, police, judicial, financial and political corruption is endemic in the US. It permeates the domestic policy from top to bottom. The same characteristics also permeate US foreign policy. They are two sides of the same coin. As noted in one of the excellent articles above, the conduct of US foreign policy has long relied on military force and assassinations. ¨Drone strikes¨ is a little softer way of putting it, but assassinations have been very effective over the years in controlling, political events. Almost certainly the tactic has been used to control domestic events. It is unlikely, but people may come to see that the real responsible parties for the racism and corruption that led to the death of Mr. Floyd are not the police and the shopkeepers, not even the bought and paid for politicians. To find the real sources of the countries social pathologies we should follow the money. Money has no morality, and the getting of it and keeping it trumps (that word again!) everything else. The nearest thing to responsible parties are the hedge fund managers, the big political contributors, the ¨defense¨ contractors, the financial wizards of Wall Street and their ilk – people who are far away from the protests. Somehow, the behavior of that class of people has to be changed. We will see how the tactics evolve, but often what goes around comes around.

Posted by: c | May 31 2020 20:25 utc | 75

Boy these Russians are geniuses of the highest order … First they put Donald Trump in power and now they’re trying to tear the country apart under him by supporting both black lives matter, and white supremacists at the same time. I don’t know how these stupid Journos can even imagine this stuff up out of their arses. The sad irony is that these journalists will be the ones when future generations look back who most contributed to the downfall of America ….

Posted by: Maximus | May 31 2020 20:32 utc | 77

This riots will soon turn into a full-blown revolution. As more people participate, Covid-19 spreads like wildfires. The overloaded healthcare and hosp. jam with sick people. Our Lysol President must send National Guards fully armed to quell the riots and soon into a Revolution or our time…
Bless our president and MAGA

Posted by: JC | May 31 2020 20:46 utc | 79

The previous thread comments reported on the violence in San Francisco. I hope RS Hack is okay. As this is an open thread I will answer his kind remarks to me that his atheism does not offend. As the angel said to one of the not-so-well behaving churches from within the Apocalypse, “It is better to be hot or cold than lukewarm.”
Also, old hippie and William Gruff had some cogent remarks at the end of the previous thread.
Be safe, Richard.

Posted by: juliania | May 31 2020 21:06 utc | 81

@ Posted by: Norwegian | May 31 2020 20:18 utc | 67
No kidding. He also said the US will turn into a military dictatorship.
Are you not paying attention to the squads of goons whose sole desire and focus it to pick a fight with anyone in their way, completely oblivious in the paradox of restoring ‘peace’ and ‘civility’ through the very violence the citizenry is out protesting?
Maybe you missed the part where the President suggested shooting protesters, threatened them with vicious dogs, and the police attacked dozens of certified journalists, no doubt emboldened by Trump’s long running war on the media. The problem is, a simple minded cop cannot discern between an article written to push a phoney agenda like Russiagate, and a news crew on a street corner simply documenting historical events… he just processed ‘the media is the enemy’ message from his like-minded fascist leader and enacted revenge the first chance he got.
Bottom line though, it is impossible to effectively run an empire when your country is falling apart. The US is clearly dysfunctional. IMHO it will either ‘officially’ collapse through further internal divisions, perhaps in a USSR style breakup along already existing regional and partisan lines, a major military blunder (take your pick there) or when the rest of the world finds a suitable alternative to the printing press of the “can’t lose” dollar system and force it stop running infinite deficits it has no intention of paying and thus bring back the very troops that have so far been the only actual security for the petrodollar scam running since they ran out of gold with Nixon.
Short term, it will either continue to be run by this incompetent, capricious fool, surrounded by a ruling class completely beholden to corporations who treats its people with contempt, or a senile puppet of the system who will struggle to even grasp what day of the week it is by the end of his term.
Rome was eventually overrun by progressively successful waves of foreigners coming in from the East, but the Empire crumbled from within through its own leaders’ depravity, greed and incompetence.
I think there is plenty of that for the world to see already, don’t you? Whether it’s 2020 or not who cares, the trajectory seems pretty clear to me.

Posted by: Et Tu | May 31 2020 21:23 utc | 83

Re: Maximus | May 31 2020 20:32 utc | 76 you wrote, “Boy these Russians are geniuses of the highest order … First they put Donald Trump in power and now they’re trying to tear the country apart under him by supporting both black lives matter, and white supremacists at the same time. I don’t know how these stupid Journos can even imagine this stuff up out of their arses. The sad irony is that these journalists will be the ones when future generations look back who most contributed to the downfall of America ….
Do you really think the journos/presstitutes “imagine this stuff”? They are given scripts to read, they are obeying orders, following directions that come from the official narrative of the deep state and its agencies.
Cloudflare won’t let me post the URL, but watch the YouTube video, Sinclair’s script for stations

Posted by: Perimetr | May 31 2020 21:27 utc | 85

“Attica!
Attica!” Screaming like Al Pacino’s character, Sonny in the film Dog Day Afternoon, (1975). All the markers look the same.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | May 31 2020 21:34 utc | 87

juliania speaks the truth rather than hiding behind whatever curtains. I was raised in a christian family and schooled in a mission school. Today I am not afraid to say I refuse to go to heaven even if it exists… too much killing and no one seems to care and speak about it. Not one politician dare to stop the endless killings worldwide including the USA. The presents cradle of freedom, democracy and etc. We can debate what is the truth. Who owned the truth and so on.. Later
SFO is still very dear to me, that’s where I first landed years ago. The riots will continue until someone speaks up. They send in fully armed national guards to quell the violent protests here while they the same idiots encourage similarly violently in HK and elsewhere and encourage secession and more.

Posted by: JC | May 31 2020 21:37 utc | 89

Mao #3
re October occurrence of covid-19

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8373559/Coronavirus-Europe-NOVEMBER.html

Thank you for that post on France determining November infections and the post to the dailymail.
I read the comments in that story:- solid proof of early arrival in October and even august assuming the gestation between infection and symptoms is 5+ days.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 31 2020 21:54 utc | 91

the language and behavior are the same because the pigs here and the pigs* in the military are the same assholes with the same gear. the same “middle class” and hillbilly trash that couldn’t get a real job because they were too busy playing football and banging mary jane rottencrotch to learn math. their idiot dads were gay for john wayne and chuck norris and passed on a nativist dipshit view of the world so they see foreign and domestic “bad guys” through the same pork and PBR-tinted glasses. fat slovenly fucks given a gun. great system.
since they insist on treating non-cop and non-trump types as “insurgents” then maybe we should take a page from the actual insurgent textbook and make a few execution videos. or if we’re evil bad guys just like the nazis: give them what they want and march their families into a goddamn oven.
i kid of course. i would never advocate such things outside of a satirical context.
* by using this term i mean no offense to actual pigs who are on average as smart as a human toddler therefore more qualified for a job than most cops. “fat blue target practice” just doesn’t have the same ring to it.
again: satire! i kid cuz i love!

Posted by: the pair | May 31 2020 22:05 utc | 93

Posted by: vk | May 31 2020 17:10 utc | 23 This is probably aimed at just hurting Donald Trump in the November elections, not at destroying the social fabric of the USA.
Agreed that this is not some sort of “color revolution.” I’m not sure this is aimed at Trump – though I don’t doubt the Democrats will try to use it against him during the election campaigning. I do think this is being “orchestrated” to some degree by a variety of factions. But that isn’t surprising – that always happens in these events, as others have noted. The question remains: who is the *main* orchestrator and what is their agenda?
I still want to know why Target closed 135 stores after only a couple days of rioting. There was something off about that. That had the smell of orchestration. However, it appears they have decided to reverse that decision and close only six stores in various cities. Weird.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | May 31 2020 22:21 utc | 95

c1ue #12

New Zealand coronavirus:
NZ has almost 10x more sheep than people; it is low density; it is isolated.
Meaningless.

On the contrary New Zealand has many fine attributes: Sheep are smart, it is the newest landmass on the planet of habitable size, it is beautiful but was better when more forest remained, remains of Egyptian rats have been found there under the black layer of an old eruption, part of the Ming dynasty Chinese flotilla was wrecked there at the same eruption, the indigenous occupants did not survive the eruption followed by the polynesian arrival followed by the whitefella arrival.
The Maori and the whitefellas have survived the Covid-19 arrival all thanks to common sense and competent leadership.
meaningful

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 31 2020 22:26 utc | 97

what you are advocating for is mob-rule and justice that usually found its end in days gone bye with a lynching.
In America we have “innocence before proven guilty.” Usually this process takes a little while. And before that, you need a warrant for arrest
Posted by: NemesisCalling | May 31 2020 17:57 utc | 29
….
Bullshit, you sound like just another ignorant smug Amurikan.
The world just witnessed a modern day lynching on the streets by cops.
There is no justice in Amurika. One’s wealth and attorney takes care “justice”- its all a fucking scam and you’re in on it.
White collar crime ring a bell? Any bankers in prison from 2008? I guess you missed your “Patriot Act” too huh genius? Warrants my ass.

Posted by: CitizenX | May 31 2020 22:36 utc | 99